Hi, Darren,
Great job! And not so off-topic, if the
topic were What would be the result of a small
asteroid strike in the Gulf of Mexico?
Two or three billion of needed repairs to
the levee system over the last decade would have
prevented all this and saved thousands of lives,
but we
now I want see if Bush take a look to the Kyoto
Protocol
Matteo
--- Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
Hi, Darren,
Great job! And not so off-topic, if the
topic were What would be the result of a small
asteroid strike in the Gulf of Mexico?
Two or three billion
So I take it you believe that so-called global
warming had something
to do with the severity of Hurricane Katrina.
Sadly, I'm sure you are
not alone in this misguided belief.
The August 2005 issue of National Geographic Magazine
featured an article on Hurricane Warnings. The article
Hello list,
On the occasion of an ebay auction,
namely NWA 2704 SMB H4,
I was asked by a collector, what the difference could be between an impact
melt breccia IMB and a shock melt breccia - SMB.
Honestly I don't know the difference, as I never heard this term SMB
before and was thinking, that
Hello Martin and List,
First I would like to correct statement in your email to the list:
On the occasion of an ebay auction, namely NWA 2704 SMB H4.
NWA 2704 is a nice L3.8, S2, W2, not an H4. I believe the meteorite you
meant to refer to was NWA 2706 which is a beautiful shocked and melted
The Nomenclature Committee is not the arbiter of such issues. The
MetBull is just like any other publication when it comes to the use
such terms, the product of editing by a group of scientists, and no
more or less authoritative than other publications.
jeff
At 08:36 AM 9/2/2005, Greg Hupe
Hello Jeff and List,
Thank you for the quick answers to Martin's questions.
I personally think that both terms, Impact Melt Breccia (IMB) and Shock
Melt Breccia(SMB) clearly describe these beautiful meteorites. The material
is 'shocked' by an 'impact' event.
Take care,
Greg
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A recent paper in Science looked at this issue. The analysis suggested that
hurricane frequency does not appear to be strongly coupled to sea surface
temperature, or to other components of global warming. Hurricane frequency
appears to follow its own multi-decadal cycle and has been doing so
Something, what I never will understand, is, that so many homes in USA also
in the so called Hurricane Alley
are made out of wood. Why not of stone? Tradition? Price?
Martin,
the second of the Three Little Pigs
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On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 09:27:59 -0400, Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Jeff and List,
Thank you for the quick answers to Martin's questions.
I personally think that both terms, Impact Melt Breccia (IMB) and Shock
Melt Breccia(SMB) clearly describe these beautiful meteorites. The material
When the U.S. was settled, wood was cheap and abundant. One consequence of
this was that stonework became a very specialized trade. This continues
today; the vast majority of construction workers are not skilled in stone or
concrete, and residential building inspectors- especially in rural
From: Chris Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: New Orleans blamestorming
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 08:48:24 -0600
Of course, the folly of New Orleans is that it is a coastal city built
below sea level. Much of the damage caused
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 07:43:19 +0200 (CEST), M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL
PROTECTED]
wrote:
on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-of-the-Rare-San-Antonio-green-glassy-meteorite_W0QQitemZ6558102198QQcategoryZ3239QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Obviously not a meteorite, but it does remind me of something.
Hi, All,
No, the smart thing would be to go on enjoying
the life available to those who live on a gorgeous tropical
coast, which is what people will do.
Despite the present severe event, the truth is that
of all natural disasters, when averaged out over the years,
the biggest killer is
This is unreal. I feel like I am watching news from Somalia or Kosovo. 5
days ago, one of America's cities was totally flooded and basically
destroyed. What did Bush do? Stayed on vacation another 2 days. He says he
can run the country from his cowless ranch? Yes, the photos and videos we
see
Mike, I thought you would have known better than to bring up politics on the
list. But jeez.
Dead babies piled up? A third world country? And where exactly did you see
thisthe History Channel?
Just remember, Huricane Andrew was in 1992, and the man who had dealt with that
huge mess
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 14:02:50 -0500 (GMT-05:00), RYAN PAWELSKI [EMAIL
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Dead babies piled up? A third world country? And where exactly did you see
thisthe History Channel?
I don't know which channels Mike is watching, but I'm seeing below third-world
conditions and dead
Hey Ryan, perhaps you should check the internet and turn off Fox news. Then
you need to watch the history channel and perhaps go back to school, because
Bill Clinton was the president of the United States in August of 1992, and
he was leader.
Michael Farmer
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From:
I sure do have those channels, [EMAIL PROTECTED] But I'm still not seeing PILES
of dead babies and THE ENTIRE COUNTRY in a third-world condition as Mike had so
generously put it. Clearly an attempt to start trouble on the list. Well, it
looks like he got his wish.. so enjoy everyone! Grab some
Dead babies piled up? A third world country? And
where exactly did you see this the History
Channel?
on ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, and CNN.
... he is an idiot, he is in over his head ...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
This shows once again that we should stay aloof from personal opinions
or emotions
So, you still haven't figured out that Bill Clinton was president in Aug
1992?
The simple fact is that an entire city is in ruins, buildings burning, tens
of thousands of people hungry, no water, and you try to say I am starting
trouble?
The simple fact is that since I sent that email, I have
Let's put piece of the New Orleans fall on ebay, as a gesture.
I haven't any, but would bid.
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From: RYAN PAWELSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 9:14 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: New Orleans,I am apalled
Sterling makes some excellent points about the psychological
impact of tragic deaths attributed to various flavors of
Mother Nature flexing her muscles. When it comes to fear and
risk, humans can be very irrational. They worry about tornadoes,
hurricanes, volcanoes, supervolcanoes, tsunamis,
Yeah, I should have double-checked my history book before making that comment.
Who was I trying to fool thinking that you would be hailing a republican on a
meteorite list. Silly me.
Ryan
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From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sep 2, 2005 2:12 PM
To: RYAN
Hi list, sky stone finders and collectors.
I have put a link to a page of unclassified Rissani meteorite images, that I
mentioned yesterday, on my website, as a few more folk have return emailed
me regards this. I have also popped up some other thought provoking theory
on Venusian transits and
1. I DID NOT say that the whole country was third world. Do not turn my words
around. -Mike Farmer
2. America, $3.50 gas and a third world country now. -Mike Farmer
3. so if the truth hurts, well suck it up! -Mike Farmer
AFTER YOU, SIR.
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From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL
I have been corrected, clinton didnt take office till jan 2003. My mistake,
sometimes my memory is not as good as I wish. I do remember though, the GOP
slamming Kerry day in and day out that he would raise gas prices since he
tried to put $.50 cent tax on once. Now we have well over $3.00 gas
And on that note, guys, it's time to give it a rest. Please listen to
Bernd's wise counsel!
Mark
I have been corrected, clinton didnt take office till jan 2003. My
mistake,
sometimes my memory is not as good as I wish.
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Please, let this topic die now. My appologies to everyone involved, in one way
or the other. I'm a bit too gullible when it comes to topics that highlight
differences in political opinions. Truely sorry for wasting everyone's time,
along with my own.
Ryan
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From:
Jeff,
thanks for highlighting Amgala for us. These pictures are among the best I
have ever seen in meteorite photography. Texture is in focus not only in the
centre of the picture but all over the complete surface shown to the lense.
As if this wasnt enough, the color spectrum you caught is
then with your permission I'll forward it to the Metlist!!
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From: Michael Farmer
Date: 09/02/05 21:12:37
To: Dave Harris
Subject: Re: re your email to the metlist
Then say it out loud! private messages mean nothing.
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From: "Dave
Sterling and List,
As appalled as anyone by Katrina's wrath, I too wish we could tweak the
past.
The enormity of the devistation, the breath and scope of the calamity
challenges our will and resources.
Unanticipated, underestimated and unimaginable are the watchwords to be
faced ONCE and
Dear Friends and Listees:
I propose that we try to help somebody in New Orleans, in our own small
way.
Martin came up with a brilliant idea, which nobody commented upon. He
suggested that we auction a piece of the New Orleans meteorite on Ebay,
and donate the proceeds.
I have a beautiful
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 21:32:13 +0200, Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let's put piece of the New Orleans fall on ebay, as a gesture.
I haven't any, but would bid.
You know, that'd be a good idea if the owner put up parts of the NO meteorite
on Ebay for charity,
but the tiny fragments of
Great idea Martin and Geoff,
If you want to put the piece up I will open the bidding at $100.00. I think
this a much better way of going about it rather than asking What if and who
did or did not respond quick enough? Every little bit will help and finger
pointing solves nothing at this point.
The owner of the New Orleans meteorite owns a shop in downtown New Orleans.
I highly doubt that he is in a position to auction any off, if it survived.
The home where the meteorite fell, is almost certainly visible in the
satellite photos that were posted. It was barely a mile south north of the
Adam posted:
If you want to put the piece up I will open the bidding at $100.00.
Dear Adam:
Thank you for your very generous offer.
Thanks also for the advisory regarding charity auctions on Ebay. I had
absolutely no idea they had regs about such a thing. Do you think one
could put All
Hi again Geoff and List,
I am not exactly sure what ebay's rules are but I remember them killing
auctions for the Tsunami relief effort. I bid on a few to find out the
auctions never completed with an explanation from ebay. I would just
mention the proceeds are going to a good cause and
Hold the auction on the list or at Mark B's chatroom!
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From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Notkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: New Orleans
Hi
Hello All...It is actually very easy to hold an ebay
auction and to have 100% of the proceeds go to the
non-profit charity of your choice. When you are
setting up the auction there is an option: Donate
Percentage of Sale along with a drop-down box showing
hundreds of Non-Profit Charities,
Sorry,
I know its off topic but after seeing Bushs' speech its clear he's only
concerned with his image even after seeing the devastation first hand.
Kind of scary how little is being done thanks to Bush.
Good thing there isn't a disaster of this scale here in the Midwest. I know
we would all
Hi all,
When this auction gets off the ground, to the winner,
I will add an inscribed and signed copy of my article
about the New Orleans fall that appeared in Meteorite
Magazine, February 2004 titled Crescent City Chondrite
Crashes Cottage.
Cheers,
Martin H.
--- Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In the course of all the Bush-bashing over the years, everyone seems to
have forgotten that the guy is neither a demon nor a saint, and is
actually a lot like every other president in that he's got good points and
bad points. I've got to say that the good point that I like the most is
that he
In a message dated 9/2/2005 5:06:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Re: New Orleans
Hello Geoff;
New Orleans meteorite sale is a good idea.But,if you auction it off only
one person donates to the cause.If you take 10.00 donations from everyone that
wants to
WE DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR OPINIONS ABOUT NEW ORLEANS, HURRICANES, YOUR POLITICAL PARTY, THE PRESIDENT, ETC. TAKE YOUR CRAP OFF THIS LIST AND DISCUSS ON A LIST DEVOTES TO SUCH SUBJECT MATTER. THIS IS A METEORITE LIST. DISCUSSION ABOUT METEORITES IS SUPPOSED TO OCCUR HERE. IF I WANT NEW ORLEANS, I
thanks for highlighting Amgala for us. These pictures are among the best I
have ever seen in meteorite photography. Texture is in focus not only in
the
centre of the picture but all over the complete surface shown to the
lense.
As if this wasnt enough, the color spectrum you caught is
Dear List Members,
I have just loaded 63 auctions on eBay that will run for just 5 days under
my seller name, naturesvault. Several have Buy it Now' including my new
Angrite, NWA 2999. All other auctions started at just 99 cents, some are the
last of what I have.
To check out these
Adam and List,
Please excuse this post if I'm misinformed.
Given that an auction has one winner and therefore one contribution,
wouldn't more money be generated if each on the List contributed $100 or
what ever amount each could, to the American Red Cross, the Salvation Army,
Catholic Charity or
Dear List Members,
I think the auction idea is a nice gesture but believe it would be way too
slow as the victims of the hurricane need the help now, not next week when
an auction ends. If people still want to do an auction, I suggest putting a
Buy it Now option on it so the winner can pay
HARLAN,
GRUMPY BUT TRUE.
AS A VIOLATOR, I CONFESS IT.
BUT POSTINGS ARE THIN LATELY.
GET A BIG RED KEYCAP
FOR YOUR DEL BUTTON
AND HAVE A GOOD TIME!
STERLING
--
harlan trammell wrote:
WE DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR OPINIONS ABOUT NEW ORLEANS,
LARGE SYNOPTIC SURVEY TELESCOPE RECEIVES $14.2 MILLION
NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT AWARD
(Forwarded from the LSST Corp., by UA Office of University Communications)
September 2, 2005
Contact information listed at end of release
I'm in for three tickets Geoff, Jerry Flaherty
Can I pay thru paypal using, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Notkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 9:08 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Charity Meteorite
I will get a large batch of meteorites together tomorrow for this. It is a
great idea, but please go donate to the red cross now.
This is America's worst natural disaster in the history of this country. I
think we still have no clue how bad this really is.
Mike Farmer
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Hi Geoff,
I also like your idea and also encourage everyone to donate now directly to
a charity and buy raffle tickets from Geoff.
Geoff, I will put together something and send you a photo and details of my
meteorite donation tonight. I will ship the item(s) to the winner(s).
Take care,
Wow Geoff,
that's a perfect idea and thrilling too! Many thanks for the work you'll do.
I'm very sure that the raffle will be a great success, as I experienced the
meteorite community to be very socially committed,
I remember the auction I once held and a value about 5000$ of goods and
money for
Geoff, is the raffle going to be drawn live in Denver?
mike
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From: Notkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: stan . [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List
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Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 8:55 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Charity Meteorite
One of the benefits of doing it this way is that we can make the raffle
happen very quickly.
I wouldnt worry about making it happen quickly -these people are going to
need help for YEARS to come likely... in the end i owuld think meximizing
funds would win out over making it happen quickly
http://www.spacerocksinc.com/September3.html
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I agree, it does not need to be this moment, perhaps we can build it into
something VERY large. I plan to donate over $1000 in meteorites to Geoff
tomorrow. I will not buy tickets, I will let the collectors have all the
chances to get a hell of a package.
Mike Farmer
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Michael Farmer posted:
Geoff, is the raffle going to be drawn live in Denver?
Mike, that is a VERY interesting idea.
We could encourage you wonderful meteorite people to buy raffle tickets
over the next few days, so we can send the money to the Red Cross now,
and then have the actual
Hi List and Geoff,
I'm for it too!
This is really nice to see how helpful and generous everyone is, but then we
already know how kind you are, remember the Lars donation campaign?
I like to be part of this list!
Sternengruss, Moni
From: Notkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Meteorite List
In a message dated 9/2/2005 10:57:53 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Michael Farmer posted:
Geoff, is the raffle going to be drawn live in Denver?
Mike, that is a VERY interesting idea.
We could encourage you wonderful meteorite people to buy raffle tickets
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