Re: [meteorite-list] Got a couple of questions
You guarantee it is a DaG meteorite? Dave - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 1:36 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Got a couple of questions Its a tipycal DaG meteorite Matteo --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:52:44 -0700 (PDT), Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok browsing ebay auctions I came across this http://cgi.ebay.com/4-BILLION-YEAR-OLD-BONSAI-VIEW-STONE-SUISEKI-ISHIZUKI_W 0QQitemZ6564089247QQcategoryZ3239QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Just wondering if anyone on the list thought this was a meteorite wrong?? Looks real to me. In my opinion, it's a right 'rite with a novel sell tactic. At 2 x 1 1/4 x 1 1/4 inches it'd be what, probably under 100 grams? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Got a couple of questions
I have sale many DaG's meteorites found from my friend, and many have this broken surface and tipycal brown surface Matteo --- Dave Carothers [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: You guarantee it is a DaG meteorite? Dave - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 1:36 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Got a couple of questions Its a tipycal DaG meteorite Matteo --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:52:44 -0700 (PDT), Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok browsing ebay auctions I came across this http://cgi.ebay.com/4-BILLION-YEAR-OLD-BONSAI-VIEW-STONE-SUISEKI-ISHIZUKI_W 0QQitemZ6564089247QQcategoryZ3239QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Just wondering if anyone on the list thought this was a meteorite wrong?? Looks real to me. In my opinion, it's a right 'rite with a novel sell tactic. At 2 x 1 1/4 x 1 1/4 inches it'd be what, probably under 100 grams? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Got a couple of questions
It looks like most of the hot desert meteorites, but not necessarily from Dar Al Gani... But of course, it could be a Dag! I also believe it IS a meteorite and DAG 976 being an L6, it could be an L6 but to my opinion there is no assurance that it is DAG 976... Just my 2 cents! Frederic Beroud http://www.meteoriteshow.com IMCA member # 2491 (http://www.imca.cc/) - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dave Carothers [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 8:14 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Got a couple of questions I have sale many DaG's meteorites found from my friend, and many have this broken surface and tipycal brown surface Matteo --- Dave Carothers [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: You guarantee it is a DaG meteorite? Dave - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 1:36 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Got a couple of questions Its a tipycal DaG meteorite Matteo --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:52:44 -0700 (PDT), Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok browsing ebay auctions I came across this http://cgi.ebay.com/4-BILLION-YEAR-OLD-BONSAI-VIEW-STONE-SUISEKI-ISHIZUKI_W 0QQitemZ6564089247QQcategoryZ3239QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Just wondering if anyone on the list thought this was a meteorite wrong?? Looks real to me. In my opinion, it's a right 'rite with a novel sell tactic. At 2 x 1 1/4 x 1 1/4 inches it'd be what, probably under 100 grams? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Got a couple of questions
Hi List! A very good business strategy: If you put it next to your BONSAI, it will start to rust away and you need a new one.. Ingo --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Got a couple of questions Datum: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Ok browsing ebay auctions I came across this http://cgi.ebay.com/4-BILLION-YEAR-OLD-BONSAI-VIEW-STONE-SUISEKI-ISHIZUKI_W0QQitemZ6564089247QQcategoryZ3239QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Just wondering if anyone on the list thought this was a meteorite wrong?? Thanks for the feed back! Dana Hawn __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Lust, ein paar Euro nebenbei zu verdienen? Ohne Kosten, ohne Risiko! Satte Provisionen für GMX Partner: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/partner __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - September 22, 2005
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Re: [meteorite-list] New CO3.5 Picture
I would like to announce a new CO3.5. It is NWA 2921. Here is a link to a picture of a 7.2 gram complete slice: http://www.lunarrock.com/9-28/dsc00055.jpg The same feeling as mine http://www.polandmet.com/gfx_nwa1906/019a.jpg This CO3.5 have the same dark (chondritic) inclusion (top, left) like this one http://www.polandmet.com/gfx_nwa1906/008a.jpg My specimens will be soon classified. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fossils Offer Support for Meteor's RoleinDinosaur Extinction
Hello Charles and List Many of the experts use marine micro-fossils for determining dates and mass extinctions. I've asked some experts directly how a foram extinction equated to a dinosaur extinction and they could not answer. There have been no dinosaur fossils found yet at these K-T boundries to prove any statement. These experts insist on using negative evidence the wrong way and everyone of them will most likely say I didn't say dinosaur, exactly. Frankly, unless your an expert on dinosaur fossils themselves, and there are many, but you never hear their names mentioned in these articles, don't talk about when dinosaurs were killed off. Lack of a fossil means nothing. A charred bone fossil will. Mark Ferguson I've only driven through Missouri, but show me anyway - Original Message - From: Charles Viau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Ron Baalke' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Meteorite Mailing List' meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 10:40 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Fossils Offer Support for Meteor's RoleinDinosaur Extinction How could this evidence possibly support dinosaur extinction? It is just too close to the Yucatan crater. There are similar outcroppings of material like that all around the gulf as well as Haiti, and South America. Just what you would expect from a local impact the size of chix... The story is interesting, but I fail to see how it offers support for a global event like the end of all dinosaur life. This is not to say that that indeed is what happened as a result of the impact, but if the evidence was in Europe, then it would have some legs. The recent finding in Haiti a few years ago was huge, and it supported the giant tsunami as well as the outfall of debris. It was a few hundred miles farther away to the east of this discovery. Even this Haiti evidence was considered too localized to conclude it resulted in the demise of dinosaurs. It was linked with chix, and nothing more. Anyone agree or disagree? I think this story was tagged that way to get more attention. CharlyV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Baalke Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 11:53 AM To: Meteorite Mailing List Subject: [meteorite-list] Fossils Offer Support for Meteor's Role inDinosaur Extinction http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/20/science/space/20mete.html Fossils Offer Support for Meteor's Role in Dinosaur Extinction By WILLIAM J. BROAD New York Times September 20, 2005 No guns materialized. Even so, the scientists kept a low profile while digging, eager to avoid security forces from the nearby air base - an important military site that helped provoke the Cuban missile crisis. The diggers had no permit and no interest in being asked to explain their presence. In the end, they found rare fossils that are shedding new light on what wiped out the dinosaurs at the end of the Cretaceous period 65 million years ago. For more than a decade, the standard view has envisioned a speeding object from space that crashed into the earth and kicked up enough dust and rock around the globe to blot out the sun. The smoking gun seemed to be the discovery beneath the Yucatán peninsula of Mexico of a 110-mile-wide crater called Chicxulub, after a nearby town. But lately, doubters have argued that Chicxulub formed 300,000 years before the mass extinction - too early to have played a role in the demise of the dinosaurs and hundreds of other plant and animal species that vanished at the end of the Cretaceous. The team of scientists zeroed in on Cuba as an ideal place to seek clues, having heard from Cuban colleagues of a possible trove of fossils of the right age. The Cuban zone was 600 miles from the Mexican crater. Now, in the September issue of Geology, the scientists, from Spain, Cuba and Mexico, report that they have discovered a highly disturbed bed of fossils that bears numerous signatures of Chicxulub's mayhem. The date of the disturbance, 65 million years ago, is exactly at the end of the Cretaceous. It's basic to resolving the debate, Laia Alegret, a team geologist at the University of Zaragoza in Spain, said in an interview. But it was difficult. The site is located opposite a military base. So it's almost impossible to get a work permit. The discovery was outside Santa Clara, a city in central Cuba whose nearby air base drew scrutiny in 1962 when American spy planes spotted Soviet jets and antiaircraft missiles. It turned out that the base held Soviet bombers and a half-dozen atom bombs. It was definitely a hot spot, said Timothy Naftali, a cold war historian at the University of Virginia. Starting around 2000, Dr. Alegret and her European colleagues repeatedly sought work permits for a nearby hill but always met with stultifying delays, if not outright rejections. Finally, they slipped into the site with their Cuban colleagues, going in late 2000, 2002 and 2003. At other times, the Cubans went
Re: [meteorite-list] New CO3.5 Picture
I would like to announce a new CO3.5. It is NWA 2921. Here is a link to a picture of a 7.2 gram complete slice: http://www.lunarrock.com/9-28/dsc00055.jpg I want to say that my feeling was just the same as Christian. Its not a case if this is or not CO or R. From good photos it looks alot similar to each other. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MeteoriteArticles.com AD: Major Sale...still underway
Hello All, My major sale is still in process. I have raised a good share the funds I need in less then a week, so who knows how long I will go. Some of the items of interest below, okay, all but the Glorieta slice, was started at $0.99! And you can search my auction for maybe 50 other items from my collectionas well as the 1000+ auctions I usually run. And be sure to bookmark my auctions, if they are not already as I am still listing collection pieces. I might even list a few things at giveaway buy it now's, just to reward those looking. Don't wait till the last minute to have your computer not let you place that bid in time. Any questions or want more photos? feel free to e-mail me. Also, please change my e-mail in your address book to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am on cable now and am not sure how much longer I will be using this msn account. Bencubbin part slice 1.70g., I paid $250 a gram for this a while backstarted at only $0.01. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6563388763 Leoville CV3.0 Carbonaceous Thin Section http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6563124682 O'Donnell Meteorite with Planetary Science Foundation Provence. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6563753314 NWA 1083 CR2 Carbonaceous Thin Section http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6563122306 DAG 734 EL4 Meteorite Thin Section - Cool Chondrule http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6563148481 New Almelo (Kansas) Meteorite in Elbert King vial http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6563743218 Sandy Creek Meteorite L5 Thin Section http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6563387001 Glorieta Mountain Individual, shaped like teardrop http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6563750901 NWA 1118 Meteorite, 171.4 grams Main Mass http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6561866195 Glorieta Mountain Pallasite Complete Slice 34.4 grams!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6563014418 Al Mahbas Shale - 5.11g http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6561864282 NWA 060 CO3.3/3.4 Meteorite Thin Section http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6561870987 Wild Horse H5 Meteorite Thin Section, check out the CHONDRULES on this one. In fact, Wild Horse's chondrules are so distinct, the Kansas Meteorite Society has sent an extra type specimen (along with a thin section) to a well known meteorite researcher for possible reclassification. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6563750901 NWA 876 H5 Meteorite Main Mass http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6562373037 NWA 894 L6 Meteorite Main Mass http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6562373731 Sikhote-Alin Iron Meteorite Double Oriented!! 14.6g http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6562444703 HENBURY Iron METEORITE, 12.5g., with HUSS Number http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6562383655 PEEKSKILL METEORITE, 1.22g, Lang Label w/Riker http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6562385937 Find A Falling Star, Hardbound, Signed by Nininger http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6562392481 Plus much more, like Marion (the first Ohio fall), a Canyon Diablo with a strange shape, Meteorite Magazine back issues, Misshof, Los Angeles and more. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Got a couple of questions
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 09:59:05 +0200, Meteoriteshow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like most of the hot desert meteorites, but not necessarily from Dar Al Gani... But of course, it could be a Dag! I also believe it IS a meteorite and DAG 976 being an L6, it could be an L6 but to my opinion there is no assurance that it is DAG 976... DAG 297, not DAG 976. Note that the seller does have a few other auctions of meteorites, including a group of DAG 297s http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6562192405 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Got a couple of questions
Thanks Darren, I mixed up! But after having checked about the right one. And I guess I did not mix up on the keyboard only, but also in my mind as I wrote 976 sveral times!!! Sorry about this, an L6 is quite different than a Ureilite! But you are right also about the other DAG 297 for sale on ebay by the same seller. Marketing (as someone else already suggested)!... Cheers Fred - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Got a couple of questions On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 09:59:05 +0200, Meteoriteshow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like most of the hot desert meteorites, but not necessarily from Dar Al Gani... But of course, it could be a Dag! I also believe it IS a meteorite and DAG 976 being an L6, it could be an L6 but to my opinion there is no assurance that it is DAG 976... DAG 297, not DAG 976. Note that the seller does have a few other auctions of meteorites, including a group of DAG 297s http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6562192405 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball Lights Up Florida Coast
http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050922/NEWS01/509220325/1006 Eerie glow lights up Fla. coast Brevardians saw it; government didn't BY CHRIS KRIDLER FLORIDA TODAY September 22, 2005 CAPE CANAVERAL - The fireball that streaked across the sky Tuesday evening, seen up and down Florida's East Coast, remained a mystery Wednesday. It was easier for many people to say what it wasn't, such as space junk, predictable pieces of rockets and such that burn up in the atmosphere. U.S. Strategic Command did not track any objects for re-entry, spokesman Jeff Jones said from Nebraska. The North American Aerospace Defense Command also didn't track anything suspicious. We don't know what it is, either, Lt. Cmdr. Sean Kelly said. Gary Halfhide was in Palm Bay when he saw the fireball. It looked like a burning metal object with a metallic-looking silvery glow behind it, he said, that lasted four or five seconds as it descended from a high altitude. The front of it was just so bright, he said. Meg Griecomancini of Cocoa Beach saw it from Palm Bay, too, and said the color reminded her of a glow stick: It was really pretty. Could it have been a super-secret spy plane or submarine missile? NASA and the Air Force said no Kennedy Space Center or local military operations could have put on such a show Tuesday. It's quite the curiosity, spokesman Ken Warren said at Patrick Air Force Base. Joe Jordan of Port St. John, the Brevard County representative for the Mutual UFO Network, had received no reports to investigate. It sounds like a pretty natural thing, he said. We haven't had any aliens show up yet, anyway, said Brevard Community College planetarium Director Mark Howard. There was no obvious meteor shower to blame, with the Orionids coming up in late October. It's probably just a random, sporadic meteor, Howard said. Still, something is in the air. Bill Morris of Suntree was working at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station early Monday morning and saw a bright object zooming across the sky -- apparently another meteor. Maybe Earth is crossing the debris trail of a comet, he suggested. It was streaking as it went, and all of a sudden it just flashed, he said, and you heard a faint boom, and it just disappeared. -- http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/orl-bk-meteor092105,0,5977335.story Light in the sky may have been meteor By Jeff Libby Orlando Sentinel September 21, 2005 A mysterious ball of fire that soared through the sky around sunset two nights ago may have been a meteor. Several people sighted the occurrence around 7:32 p.m. Tuesday, officials said. An off-duty policeman from Palm Bay walking his dog called the U.S. Coast Guard first. He said it looked like a huge flaming ball that went off into the horizon, said Daniel Yates, a Coast Guard petty officer in Port Canaveral. Then the calls started pouring in to Coast Guard stations from Jacksonville to Ft. Pierce, at least 20 of them. They were saying it looked like a flare, but that it was way too big to be a flare, Yates said. By today it was still unclear what people had seen. Coast Guard officials differed on whether it was a meteor shower or just one lone meteor that had crashed into the sea. An Orlando police officer said the fireball was a meteor, Yates said. NASA did not immediately return calls for comment. A meteorologist for the National Weather Service in Melbourne, Dennis Decker, said, It wasn't a weather event. Or let's put it this way. We don't think it was, he said. For so many people to have seen it, it was something bigger than a lightning event. The Coast Guard station at Ponce Inlet sent out a lifeboat around 8:40 p.m. after receiving about six calls, Petty Officer John Chandler said. The boat searched without success until 1 a.m. for any boat that may have been in distress, Chandler said. Another boat went out at first light, around 6:30 a.m., he said. We just had to be sure there wasn't anything out there, Chandler said. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Cassini: Tethys and Hyperion Flybys on September 24 26
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/news/events/tethys-hyperion/index.cfm Tethys and Hyperion Flyby - Sept. 24 and 26, 2005 This week Cassini will play a doubleheader with two flybys of Saturn's moon's Tethys (Sept. 24) and Hyperion (Sept. 26). Cassini will be eye-to-eye with Tethys' giant Odysseus impact-crater. Cassini's close brush with the chaotic, tumbling Hyperion might tell us whether it is a rubble pile. Scientists also hope to be able to shed more light on the following: * The origin of the huge canyon-like feature named Ithaca Chasma on Tethys is not completely understood, but it might be related to the impact that created Odysseus. * Hyperion's elliptical orbit and irregular shape influence its chaotic tumbling, which may have started after a giant impact with another body. Tethys and Hyperion at a Glance Tethys Flyby Sept. 24, 2005 Distance 1,503 km (994 miles) Hyperion Flyby Sept. 26, 2005 Distance 505 km (314 miles) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Hayabusa Project Team Proposes Names for Asteroid Itokawa Features
http://www.isas.ac.jp/e/snews/2005/0922_itokawa.shtml Proposal of the names of representative terrain on Itokawa Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency September 22, 2005 [Itokawa Image] The IAU guideline says that terrain larger than about 100 meters shall have the names of gods, internationally well known places with significance to be approved. Hayabusa project team proposes following names for the major features on Itokawa. Smaller terrain will be given names based on the nicknames referred to by the Joint Science Team analysts. Proposed names and the reasons: Muses Sea : is the smooth terrain and stands for 'MUSES-C', the project code of Hayabusa, at the same time, named after the expanse where the Greek goddesses Muses are. Uchinoura Bay : is a potential crater on Itokawa, named after the mother port (launch site) of Hayabusa in Kyushu island, Japan. Woomera Desert : is also a potential large crater on Itokawa, named after the intended recovery area of Hayabusa-carried capsule with sample, Woomera Prohibited Area (WPA) in Australia, the return port of Hayabusa. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Moon Rocks: Precious, Illegal To Own ... and Missing
http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=92540ran=116298tref=po Moon rocks: precious, illegal to own ... and missing By JOANNE KIMBERLIN The Virginian-Pilot September 22, 2005 HAMPTON - You'd probably kick it out of your path. Just a grayish, charcoal-size lump of lowly rock. Nothing to get worked up about, or even notice. Fact is, this rock is worth nearly 10 times its weight in top-grade diamonds. But you can't buy it - at least not legally - no matter how much money you have. Thirty-three years ago, the last men to walk on the moon plucked it from the lunar surface, wrestled it into their spacecraft and carried it 238,857 dark and frozen miles back to Earth. At the time, it was part of a much bigger rock - a 6-pounder collected for one special task: uniting the people of this planet. Dubbed the Goodwill Rock, it was cut into precisely measured, pea-sized pieces that were given to 135 countries, friend and foe alike, as symbols of hope for future harmony in a Cold War-world. Each of the 50 states received a tiny share of the Goodwill Rock as well. A limited number of larger, left-over chunks went on display around the globe. One found its way to the Virginia Air Space Center in Hampton. There, it winks under a spotlight, sealed inside a NASA-built, nitrogen-filled container, protected by an outer cube of thick plexiglass and its own, personal alarm system. It's very much our little jewel, said Allen Hoilman, the museum's curator. Scarcity makes moon rocks extremely precious on Earth. From 1969 to 1972, six Apollo lunar landings ferried back 842 pounds of rock, pebbles, sand and dust. Since then - with the exception of the gifts to governments - NASA has kept nearly every speck under its control. According to the space agency, none has ever been sold or given away - not even to the astronauts who fetched them. All of which makes moon rocks a red-hot commodity on the black market. While NASA says it can account for nearly every ounce of its share, most of the rocks given to other countries have vanished over the decades - many likely absorbed into the underground collections of the ultra-rich. Famed-auction house Sotheby's held the only legal sale of moon rocks ever recorded. The 1993 sale offered a few grains weighing a total of .3 grams - less than 1/100th of an ounce - part of a three-quarter-pound load retrieved by unmanned Russian probes during the race to space. The gavel banged at $442, 500. Hampton's rock weighs 159 grams - nearly 6 ounces. At Sotheby's rates, it's worth about $230 million. That's more than two times the cost of the most expensive masterpiece ever sold at auction - a Picasso that went for $104 million. All that was news to Hoilman. As a curator, he tries not to think about sale prices. He rubbed his jaw slowly, staring at the humdrum-looking rock with new reverence. Oh my God, he said quietly. I need a bigger alarm system. The Space Shuttle has made travel into the cosmos seem almost routine. Going to the moon remains anything but. Shuttle craft have a top altitude of 400 miles. The moon is nearly 600 times f arther. Only 12 men have ever stepped on its dusty surface. It's been more than three decades since anyone even tried. President Bush has announced intentions for America to return. Last week , NASA briefed Congress on its plans to do so. If approved, a lunar outpost could be established by 2020, a stepping stone for extending the human reach into the solar system. Moon rocks could become run-of-the-mill, particularly if commercial expeditions start carting them home. Collectors, however, say Apollo rocks will always be coveted. History blends with nostalgia to make them more than mere objects from outer space. More than 70 found-and-confirmed meteors have landed on Earth from the moon and Mars. But they don't command nearly the price, or evoke nearly the emotion. The Apollo rocks represent what many have called the greatest achievement of man, said Robert Pearlman, author of a Houston-based Web site, collectspace.com, a regularly cited source in the industry. The first moon walk on July 20, 1969, remains a milestone memory for millions of people - an almost magical, black-and-white moment when one small step redefined the word impossible. There are only a handful of global events where you always remember exactly where you were when they happened, Pearlman said. This is the only one that doesn't involve tragedy. NASA considers its Apollo stockpile America's treasure. Most of the motherload - close to 657 pounds - remains in near-pristine condition inside a specially built complex at Houston's Johnson Space Center. Another 109 pounds is in remote storage at the space agency's White Sands Testing Facility in New Mexico - a precaution against man-made or natural threats at Johnson, like Hurricane Rita, bearing down on the Gulf Coast . Lewis Parker spent much of Wednesday battening down the hatches at the space center . As a manager on
[meteorite-list] NWA 2921 Classification
Hello List Members, I have been in contact with Dr. Bunch regarding the classification of NWA 2921. He is looking into this to see if there was a mix-up in one of two labs. I will let you know what I find out. There have been several prominent collectors and dealers who have contacted me regarding this. I hope I will not be eating crow by announcing the CO classification if there was an error in the lab, but am more than willing to do so if need be. This just shows that errors are possible and it is up to collectors and dealers to constantly question classifications, if needed, to keep them correct. I will post what I find out as soon as I hear. Best regards, Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection naturesvault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA 2185 - Original Message - From: Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 6:27 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New CO3.5 Picture I would like to announce a new CO3.5. It is NWA 2921. Here is a link to a picture of a 7.2 gram complete slice: http://www.lunarrock.com/9-28/dsc00055.jpg I want to say that my feeling was just the same as Christian. Its not a case if this is or not CO or R. From good photos it looks alot similar to each other. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA 2921 Classification CORRECTION
Dear List Members, I just received an email from Dr. Bunch, there was an error in the lab. Here is part of his email: Dr. Bunch's reply: Yes there is a mistake. Your section number is RHH4 and was read as PHH4, the data of which is ET's CO3.5. Yours is an R3.8. complied the data before I left and I did not double check it. --- R3.8 S1W3Fa39.3 ± 1.2; FeO/MnO = 72-76 (we started to use this constraint which is foolproof in identifying some carbonaceous chondrites, don't need O2 data anymore). We have used our hundreds of analyses to provide the following FeO/MnO ranges: R = 68-90; CK, 100 - 130; CO, 110- 150; CV 140). Some overlap but other compositional characteristics overcome the minor overlap of CK and CO, which do not look the same anyhow. I don't know who said that it looked like (NWA)3146, many Rs do but they are not paired with (NWA)3146... Sorry about the mistake and thank you for pointing it out. Thank you Christian, Marcin and all who brought attention to this mistake. It just shows that when we work together, good things happen. I have corrected the current auctions on eBay to reflect the R3.8 classification and have notified the two members who purchased some using Buy it Now. Now, I wonder if crow tastes good with mustard... Best regards, Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection naturesvault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA 2185 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 2921 Classification CORRECTION
I don't know who said that it looked like (NWA)3146, many Rs do but they are not paired with (NWA)3146... Sorry about the mistake and thank you for pointing it out. Its in our interest to help correct every error. There are alot of meteorites so its natural that there will be any of them. But I reflect about other thing. NWA 2921 is NOT paired with NWA 3146, 2289, ..., becouse NAU checked this for possible pairings or its not paired becouse they not checked it for pairings ? Becouse this can be interpreted in 2 different ways. Lets see my NWA2698 Howardite. Its material that is paired with many other NWAs, including the father NWA1929. But If I will send it to lets say, Russian Lab I will get unpaired meteorite becouse they dont have comparison material. Also NAU can't technicaly (I think) compare every Howardite to many many others for possible pairings. My specimen is paired, becouse I say to Ted, to compare it with NWA1929, becouse Im was sure that it was the same material. So unpaired meteorite can't alvays mean that it is unpaired, but only that it was not classified as paired. If Im wrong, correct me. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Large ebay sale tonight, Oriented Sikhote-Alin bullet!
Hi everyone, I have over $2000 in meteorites ending tonight. ALL items started at one cent, they sell where they end. Here is a list of the great pieces up for grabs this evening: First and foremost! Superb bullet-shaped Sikhote-Alin, hundreds of flow lines! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=6563346503 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=6563385015 Beautiful chondrite sphere. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=6563379444 Beautiful Rumuruti slice! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=5035335229 Japanese Money Cat meteorite carving. Gibeon Sphere http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=6563381145 Dhofar main mass http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=6563383765 Again, this is well over $2000 in meteorites, highest bid gets them, don't wait 'cause ebay can mess up and you wouldnt get your bid in. See all available items at the links below. http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteorite-hunter/ http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteoritehunters/ Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] RE: NWA 2921 Classification CORRECTION
Hi all, a mix up can always happen. It can happen to everyone. As Greg said, co-operation and exchange of experience always brings good results. That's was a good example why this list exists. Thanks to Greg for clearing this subject and for his honesty. No doubt on his reliability as well on Dr. Bunch's. best regards, Christian IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Hupe Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 7:30 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 2921 Classification CORRECTION Dear List Members, I just received an email from Dr. Bunch, there was an error in the lab. Here is part of his email: Dr. Bunch's reply: Yes there is a mistake. Your section number is RHH4 and was read as PHH4, the data of which is ET's CO3.5. Yours is an R3.8. complied the data before I left and I did not double check it. --- R3.8 S1W3Fa39.3 ± 1.2; FeO/MnO = 72-76 (we started to use this constraint which is foolproof in identifying some carbonaceous chondrites, don't need O2 data anymore). We have used our hundreds of analyses to provide the following FeO/MnO ranges: R = 68-90; CK, 100 - 130; CO, 110- 150; CV 140). Some overlap but other compositional characteristics overcome the minor overlap of CK and CO, which do not look the same anyhow. I don't know who said that it looked like (NWA)3146, many Rs do but they are not paired with (NWA)3146... Sorry about the mistake and thank you for pointing it out. Thank you Christian, Marcin and all who brought attention to this mistake. It just shows that when we work together, good things happen. I have corrected the current auctions on eBay to reflect the R3.8 classification and have notified the two members who purchased some using Buy it Now. Now, I wonder if crow tastes good with mustard... Best regards, Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection naturesvault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA 2185 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: NWA 2921 Classification CORRECTION
Hi Christian, Marcin and all, Just another example of our(my) ever expanding knowledge of these extraterrestrials. I am never too stubborn or let my pride get in the way to make a correction when it comes up. It is our duty to make these corrections when needed. With all of the material going through the labs now, I am surprised mistakes don't happen more often. Take care everyone, Greg P.S. Be sure to check out my new R3.8 (likely paired to some others out there...) ;-) - Original Message - From: Christian Anger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 2:33 PM Subject: RE: NWA 2921 Classification CORRECTION Hi all, a mix up can always happen. It can happen to everyone. As Greg said, co-operation and exchange of experience always brings good results. That's was a good example why this list exists. Thanks to Greg for clearing this subject and for his honesty. No doubt on his reliability as well on Dr. Bunch's. best regards, Christian IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Hupe Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 7:30 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 2921 Classification CORRECTION Dear List Members, I just received an email from Dr. Bunch, there was an error in the lab. Here is part of his email: Dr. Bunch's reply: Yes there is a mistake. Your section number is RHH4 and was read as PHH4, the data of which is ET's CO3.5. Yours is an R3.8. complied the data before I left and I did not double check it. --- R3.8 S1W3Fa39.3 ± 1.2; FeO/MnO = 72-76 (we started to use this constraint which is foolproof in identifying some carbonaceous chondrites, don't need O2 data anymore). We have used our hundreds of analyses to provide the following FeO/MnO ranges: R = 68-90; CK, 100 - 130; CO, 110- 150; CV 140). Some overlap but other compositional characteristics overcome the minor overlap of CK and CO, which do not look the same anyhow. I don't know who said that it looked like (NWA)3146, many Rs do but they are not paired with (NWA)3146... Sorry about the mistake and thank you for pointing it out. Thank you Christian, Marcin and all who brought attention to this mistake. It just shows that when we work together, good things happen. I have corrected the current auctions on eBay to reflect the R3.8 classification and have notified the two members who purchased some using Buy it Now. Now, I wonder if crow tastes good with mustard... Best regards, Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection naturesvault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA 2185 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Metachondrite ?
Hello to the List Members, I visited today the NAU Website and discovered in the classification the term of metachondrite : http://www4.nau.edu/meteorite/ (for example for NWA 1839 : metachondrite (CV affinity) Can you tell me what it is ? Thanks a lot Pierre-Marie PELE www.meteor-center.com ___ Appel audio GRATUIT partout dans le monde avec le nouveau Yahoo! Messenger Téléchargez cette version sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: NWA 2921 Classification CORRECTION
Hi Greg and all! I´m sure that there are a lot of mistakes in the darkness of classifi-cation and I´m also sure that we all have this feeling from time to time. If there is a stone in my collection, let´s say a R3.8 and I see a stone on the table of a dealer, which shows the same characteristic features on the outside and also a cut looks identical (same color and inclusions) but is classified as R4. Who realy think it´s a different stone??? How many Rs should exist under this conditions who are unpaired??? What will happen, when I give one stone of a significant fell to one lab and one other to the next lab? I would get to claasifications and they could be differently, cause the used micro probes are different or the rock it self is different, caused by brecciation or xenolithic clasts. And finally: Where is the sense of data, if it looks like there is nobody who compares them??? --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Christian Anger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kopie: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [meteorite-list] Re: NWA 2921 Classification CORRECTION Datum: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 14:49:05 -0400 Hi Christian, Marcin and all, Just another example of our(my) ever expanding knowledge of these extraterrestrials. I am never too stubborn or let my pride get in the way to make a correction when it comes up. It is our duty to make these corrections when needed. With all of the material going through the labs now, I am surprised mistakes don't happen more often. Take care everyone, Greg P.S. Be sure to check out my new R3.8 (likely paired to some others out there...) ;-) - Original Message - From: Christian Anger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 2:33 PM Subject: RE: NWA 2921 Classification CORRECTION Hi all, a mix up can always happen. It can happen to everyone. As Greg said, co-operation and exchange of experience always brings good results. That's was a good example why this list exists. Thanks to Greg for clearing this subject and for his honesty. No doubt on his reliability as well on Dr. Bunch's. best regards, Christian IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Hupe Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 7:30 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 2921 Classification CORRECTION Dear List Members, I just received an email from Dr. Bunch, there was an error in the lab. Here is part of his email: Dr. Bunch's reply: Yes there is a mistake. Your section number is RHH4 and was read as PHH4, the data of which is ET's CO3.5. Yours is an R3.8. complied the data before I left and I did not double check it. --- R3.8 S1W3Fa39.3 ± 1.2; FeO/MnO = 72-76 (we started to use this constraint which is foolproof in identifying some carbonaceous chondrites, don't need O2 data anymore). We have used our hundreds of analyses to provide the following FeO/MnO ranges: R = 68-90; CK, 100 - 130; CO, 110- 150; CV 140). Some overlap but other compositional characteristics overcome the minor overlap of CK and CO, which do not look the same anyhow. I don't know who said that it looked like (NWA)3146, many Rs do but they are not paired with (NWA)3146... Sorry about the mistake and thank you for pointing it out. Thank you Christian, Marcin and all who brought attention to this mistake. It just shows that when we work together, good things happen. I have corrected the current auctions on eBay to reflect the R3.8 classification and have notified the two members who purchased some using Buy it Now. Now, I wonder if crow tastes good with mustard... Best regards, Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection naturesvault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA 2185 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- 5 GB Mailbox, 50 FreeSMS http://www.gmx.net/de/go/promail +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More +++ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Capot Rey...photos please of the H5
Dear List, Does anyone have more information about Capot Rey? It is listed as an H5 in the MetBul and has no mention of it being an IMB. I would appreciate photos if someone has them of their samples that were not sold as an IMB. Thank you in advance. Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Capot Rey...photos please of the H5
Hi Dirk, contact Carsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] He has some for sale. On his homepage ( http://www.gi-po.de/main_eng.htm )are listed only two samples, but I think he has more and better pictures. Capot Rey is quite spectacular looking. I'd rather say a H5 with IMB. Dark broad streams of melt around islands of lighter grey unalterered chondritic parts. Quite fresh and very contrastive. I guess Dho 010 must have looked like this, when it was younger. Best! Martin - Original Message - From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 1:47 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Capot Rey...photos please of the H5 Dear List, Does anyone have more information about Capot Rey? It is listed as an H5 in the MetBul and has no mention of it being an IMB. I would appreciate photos if someone has them of their samples that were not sold as an IMB. Thank you in advance. Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Drilling Update at Manicouagan Impact Crater
http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/September2005/22/c3199.html Drilling update - Manicouagan meteorite impact site Manicouagan Minerals Inc September 22, 2005 - Five bore holes completed to date, further drilling on-going. - Disseminated sulphide mineralization (minor copper) was encountered in two holes, along with key Sudbury-type geological units in the additional holes, raising the level of prospectivity within the crater itself. - Sudbury geology expert conducts detailed study of the Manicouagan impact site and drills cores, highlighting distinct similarities between the Sudbury and Manicouagan sites and further underscoring the discovery potential. TORONTO, Sept. 22 /CNW/ - (TSXV:MAM) Manicouagan Minerals Inc. (Manicouagan or the Company) wishes to provide an update on the first part of its 10,400m drilling program on the 65km wide impact site at Manicouagan, Quebec. The results and studies obtained to date are indicative of the fact that the impact site's geological and dynamic parameters at the time of the massive meteorite impact, are amenable to the formation and accumulation of large orebodies - similar to Sudbury. Thus far a total of 3,460m of drilling in five bore holes have been completed within the 1,750 sq km property owned by Manicouagan, covering the 65 km diameter meteorite impact site. To date, the program has been equally divided between the inner crater area where significant magnetotelluric (MT) anomalies are known to exist as well as the outer periphery of the island where at least twenty shallow MEGATEM anomalies are located. The first hole (MAN-05-01) went to a depth of 1,607m to test an MT anomaly (No. 1). In this hole, minor copper (chalcopyrite) mineralization was noted in some restricted sections of the 650m thick impact related melt sheet. Two other shallower holes (MAN-05-02, MAN-05-03) were completed within the immediate camp area. The first hole (Man-05-03)located 400m north of the camp, cut a particularly thick section of the impact melt sheet throughout its entire 702m length, constituting the deepest section of the highly prospective melt sheet found to date. Sulphide mineralisation was also noted in this hole in the form of minute fracture fillings containing chalcopyrite, in addition to pyrite which is the dominant mineralization associated with the melt rock. An additional drill hole (MAN-05-02) was drilled to a depth of 500 m to provide information on the area near the central meteorite uplift and related geophysical anomaly. Both holes encountered magnetite with only MAN-05-03 containing disseminated sulphides. Two further holes (MAN-05-04, MAN-05-05) were drilled as a partial cross-section to evaluate two MEGATEM EM anomalies on the west side of the island. These cut conductive shale units within remnants of Paleozoic limestones near the edge of the reservoir. Dr. Walter Peredery, consulting geologist and expert on Sudbury geology, visited the project area in early September and concluded as follows in his September 20th, 2005 report: The Manicouagan Impact Melt Sheet (IMS) is surprisingly similar to the Sudbury Igneous-looking Complex noritic member. Both are coarse grained, and consist of the same mineralogy and contain high content of alkaline feldspars. Both contain relatively small amounts of sulphides. Manicouagan IMS (melt sheet) is a relatively thick sheet comparable to the norite in Sudbury. Fine-grained IMS phases exist at both Manicouagan and at Sudbury in the Onaping Formation. The presence of Basal Breccia unit both above and below the IMS at Manicouagan is similar to that found in the Sudbury structure. The presence of sulphides in the basement rocks is a feature of both the Manicouagan and the Sudbury structures. As such it is another positive element that must be a contributing factor in the formation of economic mineralization in the Impact structures. Constantine Salamis, CEO, reports: The Manicouagan crater project has been fully initiated and has been a technical success with respect to the right mix of ingredients - in the form of Sudbury-style geology and minute sulphide mineralization - having been intercepted in the recent drilling. Disseminated sulphides occur as well in large fragments in melt rock and basalt immediately above the basement on the west side of the island. The large number of geophysical targets will extend the drill program at least until April, 2006. In addition, we are encouraged by the findings of our expert consultant in his comparison of Manicouagan to Sudbury. Both Constantine Salamis and Dr. Walter Peredery qualify under the definition of qualified person set out in National Instrument
[meteorite-list] When is a Planet not a Planet?
http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/dn8039-when-is-a-planet-not-a-planet.html When is a planet not a planet? Maggie McKee New Scientist 22 September 2005 Astronomers are arguing bitterly over how to define a planet, with some proposing that the term be abandoned completely in favour of more specific labels based on where objects are located. Two competing proposals are expected to be put forward to a formal task group on Friday, but astronomers say the debate could drag on indefinitely. The International Astronomical Union (IAU), which is responsible for settling such issues, assembled a special working group to come up with a new definition about 18 months ago, when a large new body called Sedna was found in the outer solar system. The hope was that we would come to some agreement before anything else dramatic happened, says the working group's chairman, Iwan Williams of Queen Mary, University of London, UK. But then 2003 UB313 turned up. This large object was discovered in July 2005 in a ring of rocky bodies beyond Neptune called the Kuiper Belt. It was dubbed the tenth planet by its discoverers because it is larger than Pluto, reigniting the debate over what constitutes a planet. Going in circles But the 19-member working group has been unable to arrive at a consensus. The discussion has just been going in circles, says group member Alan Stern, an astronomer at the Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colorado, US. One of the two proposals to be submitted on Friday is based simply on an object's size - a definition that Stern favours. That would increase the number of planets in the solar system, with Pluto being just one of several known Kuiper Belt objects of about the same size that would qualify as a planet. But some of the team say choosing a size cutoff for the definition is arbitrary. There is no scientific value in maintaining that there are nine planets, including Pluto as one out of many similar small bodies, says group member Brian Marsden, head of the IAU's Minor Planet Center in Cambridge, Massachusetts, US. The second proposal would decrease the number of planets in the solar system by demoting Pluto. This definition says a planet is the dominant body in its immediate neighbourhood - a title based on its size relative to its neighbours and the dynamics of its orbit. Objects in the asteroid belt beyond Mars, for example, would not be planets because there are so many of them in the same region, while Pluto would not count because it crosses the orbit of its more massive neighbour Neptune. Fudge factor But a third proposal has been discussed that does away entirely with the term planet - an option Williams calls a fudge factor. It uses qualifying adjectives to define subclasses of planets based on characteristics like location, composition or culture. In this scheme, Earth might be a terrestrial planet and Pluto a historic planet. Marsden supports this idea, explaining it allows us to educate a public that thinks Pluto is somehow very special. But Stern is vehemently opposed to it. Our charter is to define a planet, not subgroups, he told New Scientist. Either we do our job or we don't. If the working group actually ratifies a statement that says there is no such thing as a planet, the IAU will be the laughing stock of the world, he says. Everyone will ask why egghead PhDs can't tell when an object is a planet if regular people can. The working group may vote on the proposals within the next two weeks. But Williams says: We may just decide to start from scratch again rather than going on the two proposals. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] resaw iron slab
i am looking to resaw an iron slab aroubd 500g and about 1/4" thick into 2 slices- does anyone out there have a device/ offer a service to do such? i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] look at the westren sky Arizona and Calif
Mike Miller // E-Bay flattoprocks Website // www.meteoritefinder.com Check out the web site it is up and running! Mike Miller 230 Greenway Rd. Kingman AZ 86401 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list]bolide?
Hi Everybody, I have a question about a bolide. How does a bolide look like when it is in the sky? Does it look like a cork screw? My friend Cuc (my meteorite search partner) and I just drove home from our evening walk and we spotted something in the sky towards the east that looked like a cork screw pattern in the sky. I have no idea what this could have been. Unless... Anyone? Sternengruss, Moni __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Capot Rey...photos please of the H5
Look my collection site, I have a photo of normal Capot Rey and at few I put the photo of the IMB slice. Matteo --- drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Dear List, Does anyone have more information about Capot Rey? It is listed as an H5 in the MetBul and has no mention of it being an IMB. I would appreciate photos if someone has them of their samples that were not sold as an IMB. Thank you in advance. Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fossils Offer Support for Meteor's RoleinDinosaur Extinc...
Mark Fe wrote: Lack of a fossil means nothing. A charred bone fossil will. Mark Fe I've only driven through Missouri, but show me anyway Hola Mark, List, 64.8 - 65.3 million years later and you expect to find a charred dinosaur bone? Either the bone gets burnt or it fossilizes...and fossilizing is very infrequent in the big scheme of things or everyone would have a dinosaur skeleton buried in their cellar...I think it would be asking to much to get an animal fossil of something that was burnt - would seem to me that whatever was burnt would loose its integrity and no longer have the ability to fossilize very easily at all...Can you show me a fossilized piece of burnt petrified wood ... ? :) Or was that just a fragment of petrified wood and who knows why it wasn't twice as big... With respect to the Forams, the theory is simple. Foramifera are plentiful in sediments containing even no macro-fossils as is too typical in the KT sediments. Changes species of 'Forams' are indicators of climatic change in the opinion of most paleontologists. Now the fossil record shows that during that time period so long ago, many species of land animals simply vanished geologically abruptly, though how abruptly is still an open question for some: Is it 500,000 years or 500 years being the basic question. And the key assumption for Missourian's palate is if all but proving a big climate change (read: Foram change) in conjunction with a huge iridium spike wasn't a shock enough to blow away larger land animals. Similar changes in microscopic creatures earmark other great dyings. In the case of KT, for every 20 different species of Forams, only about 6 remained. The black box that ties the dinosaur extinction is, if we are sure the climate changed abruptly as: 1. this is reflected in a sudden change in Forams...because only the hot water species survived...or cold water species survived in a certain area of study we have an incredibly nice predictor of climate (temperature) change. Now furthermore, we can correlate that change, ie, dying, with a spike of Iridium! OK, you're from Missouri...No problem, a very nice place (Isn't their motto, Missouri is for Virginians? Or was it Show me Virginia?, or Missouri is for Lovers? I get them all mixed up. But I think the paleontologists are on to something when they turn up those wonderful clues to what happened that fateful date of January 1, 64,997,995 B.C. A person who measures dinosaur bones and is typically a good prehistoric taxonomist to describe new species, is unlikely to find a bone with a label 64,997,996 BC. I'm all eyes for new evidence, but I think the Foram folk who are the experts in chronoestratigraphy are much more likely to deconvolute as best as any dino only paleontologist , after all they possibly like forams nbecause the dinos didn't give up any smoking guns, which is worse than looking for a grain of sand on a beach with 65,000,000 more grains... and it is not like these experts are not all very interest paleontologists at heart and that many of the Foram folk of course are dino experts as well as can be! Three cheers for the efforts of the Foram folk ... though not loud enough cheer to give them big heads about it...the big head won't happen until the next Nobel Prize is awarded on the subject...and I haven't seen any work in the field yet coming near that yet...but who knows what they might dig up...would you take an ammonite that looked like a jigsaw puzzle with half of the pieces gone and a few spherules rolling around in it? Ammonites can look like j8igsaw puzzles...btw:-) Saludos, Doug PS :Lack of a fossil means something, though it proves decisively nothing. Lucky scientists can waive the beyond a reasonable doubt clause of the Constitution when they publish and speak of thingsbeing consistent or not with the record... __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
