[meteorite-list] OT:Space Tourist Greg Olsen

2005-10-07 Thread moni Waiblinger-Seabridge

Good Morning list-members,

This doesn't have anything to do with meteorites, but it is still space 
related and I thought worth sharing.

Similar to Ron Baalke's post about the Mars Exploration Rover Update.
Pretty cool! :-)

Space Tourist Greg Olsen Makes First Solo ISS Broadcast

http://space.com/missionlaunches/051004_olsen_iss_broadcast.html

Sternengruss, Moni


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RE: [meteorite-list] OT:Space Tourist Greg Olsen

2005-10-07 Thread Kevin Forbes

Hi all, in a follow up with more info regards this.

Greg Olsen is also making, and has com contacts via amateur radio on the 
standard voice frequencies.
If you have an amateur radio license or a radio scanner, you may be lucky in 
either listening or indeed making contact. If you have a radio scanner, 
monitor 145.800 MHz FM for the next few days. If you are able to, please, 
also record the event and let us all know about it, as it is indeed history 
in the making.
It would also be a very good idea to have satellite tracking on your 
computer such as WXTRACK,

http://www.david-taylor.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/software/wxtrack.htm
and the latest keps, ( keps are available from,
http://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/ )
( KEPS are keplarian elements, a bunch of numbers regularly updated, that 
allow software to plot sats, They need updated at regular intervals as many 
things change a sats orbit in the course of a week, from thruster burns, to 
solar activity affecting Earths atmosphere's expansion, thus changing the 
drag on a sat.)
so that you know when the ISS is above you and then to listen. Those with a 
license should be able to find the correct frequency to transmit to the ISS 
in their area as the frequency is different for different parts of the 
globe.

According to my info they are...

http://www.issfanclub.com/modules.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1

Zone 1 Europe-Middle East-Africa-North Asia
RX 145.800, TX 145.200
Zone 2 North and South America-Caribbean-Greenland
RX 145.800, TX 144.490
Zone 3 South Asia-Australia-New Zealand-Oceania
RX 145.800, TX 144.490
all FM mode.

This website will provide up to the minute info on either computer link 
contacts for the PMS computer system (packet radio), PCSAT2 operations 
(packet radio), all onboard ISS, and any voice contacts as they happen.


http://www.issfanclub.com/

Good luck.

Kevin, VK3UKF.

P.S. This may also be of interest to some.
http://www.qsl.net/vk3ukf/etshadowozindexqsl.html

If you have the capability and knowledge, but no license, please do transmit 
hoping for a reply, you will be made an example of. (pirate)





Good Morning list-members,

This doesn't have anything to do with meteorites, but it is still space 
related and I thought worth sharing.

Similar to Ron Baalke's post about the Mars Exploration Rover Update.
Pretty cool! :-)

Space Tourist Greg Olsen Makes First Solo ISS Broadcast

http://space.com/missionlaunches/051004_olsen_iss_broadcast.html

Sternengruss, Moni


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[meteorite-list] Hayabusa Asteroid probe runs into trouble

2005-10-07 Thread mark ford

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4316162.stm



Asteroid probe runs into trouble 


Japan's Hayabusa spacecraft, designed to collect a sample from an
asteroid and return it to Earth, has lost the second of its three
reaction wheels. 
These wheels help the probe maintain its attitude, or orientation, in
space without needlessly expending fuel by using thrusters to do the
same job. 

Hayabusa has now settled in a home position about 6.8km from its
target, the asteroid Itokawa. 

The Japanese Aerospace Exploration Agency (Jaxa) probe launched in 2003.

It is currently using a combination of its two chemical engines and the
last remaining reaction wheel to maintain a stable attitude. 

Fuel conservation teams are looking at how to conserve fuel following
the unanticipated use of the engines and considering whether to make
changes to the mission profile. Jaxa's Institute of Space and
Astronautical Science (ISAS) said it will report its plans as soon as
the strategy is fixed. 
ISAS said that fortunately, Hayabusa has nearly finished mapping
asteroid Itokawa. 





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RE: [meteorite-list] POLL: rustiest most unstable known

2005-10-07 Thread Kevin Forbes
Hi Harlan, Dronino, It came supposedly protected, coated in nail polish, 
withtin a few days began corroding. A month later, it was lifting the nail 
polish. It is now sitting in a jar of caustic and methylated spirits, in an 
attempt at removing its hydroscopic properties. One piece I got, I coated in 
beeswax immediately. It has not yet showed any corrosion, but probably will. 
Sweaty finger prints on Gibeon are also a problem, one bit needs sanding and 
re-polishing.

Kevin. VK3UKF.



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ok, folks what it is? let's see the TOP 10 sweatiest, crappiest, rustiest, 
hear-it-crackle- as it falls apart in your hands 5 seconds after sawing, 
skyrox. i'll start with: tsarev, brahin, campo. what have YOU got?!


you georgia skyrockers- keep it to yourself until we wind this down (i 
already know what YOU are think of).




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[meteorite-list] AD - ebay auctions

2005-10-07 Thread Meteoriteshow
Dear Meteoritelistics!

This is the final call for the passengers to space flight meteoriteshow 001, 
destination to meteorite ebay auctions ending
tomorrow! No need for any ticket or passport, just click on the links hereunder 
for immediate boarding and lift up. I wish you a
pleasant flight and grant any winning passenger of the List a 5% discount on 
the value of their final bid(s), after presentation of
a copy of this message by the winner(s) e-mailed to me. Thanks for cruising 
with us =;o))

1-  METEORITE: CM2 - ACFER 331 0.1gr - W0 !
Here you have two little pieces of this CM2, both with a cut surface and fusion 
crust on the other side. Total weight is 0.1g.
Should you like to have some of this rare meteorite at a more than reasonable 
price, then come on board an click:
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2-  METEORITE: L4/5 O.C. - ACFER 329 - 4.0gr SLICE
Acfer 329 is a fresh and beautiful O.C. This end-cut is very typical, with 
large metal flakes, a fair grey matrix and chondrules
with sharply defined boundaries. The cut section has been well polished so that 
you can fully enjoy its nice structure. Take off!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6566457652rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITrd=1

3-  METEORITE: LL4 O.C. - TANEZROUFT 060 15.6gr END-CUT
Tanezrouft 060, a very pourous LL4 with large fractured chondrules is really 
unusual. You may not have anything similar in your
collection. Partly fusion crusted, this 15.6g end-cut is staying at starting 
price ($29.00 USD). Isn't it an opportunity?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6566458260rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITrd=1

4-  METEORITE: UNCLASSIFIED O.C. - FROM A.CARION COLLECTION
A nice slice of an unclassified chondrite that comes from the Alain Carion's 
collection, that will be sent with its original label
(see pictures) + meteoriteshow Certificate of Authenticity. Large surface: 
57x50mm.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6566458697rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITrd=1

5-  METEORITE: ZAG 8.5gr - SPECIAL WITNESSED FALL !
This 8.5g end-cut with a 40x20mm cut surface is showing the two different 
typical lithologies of ZAG, in equal proportions. I supply
with this famous meteorite a set of articles about it (see pictures) printed on 
A5 format and its Certificate of Authenticity of
course. You know that ZAG is not offered so often on ebay and this one is just 
at starting price at the time I write this e-mail...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6566459038rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITrd=1

6-  RARE METEORITE: ETTER 20.9gr - L5 O.C. (S5)
Have a nice long slice of this famous Texan meteorite in you collection if you 
don't have it yet! Nicely polished on one side, it
has been left rough from cutting on the other side so that you can have two 
different contrasts. Worth watching  bidding!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6566459630rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITrd=1

Once again thanx for flying Meteoriteshow and have a wonderful trip!
Kind regards,

'Captain Fred  his Crew'
http://www.meteoriteshow.com
IMCA member # 2491 (http://www.imca.cc/)
ebay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ50QQsassZmeteoriteshow

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Re: [meteorite-list] POLL: rustiest most unstable known

2005-10-07 Thread harlan trammell
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From: David Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: harlan trammell [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POLL: rustiest most unstable knownDate: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 03:39:31 -0700 (PDT)nantan's gotta be #1--- harlan trammell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:-ok, folks what it is? let's see the TOP 10 sweatiest, crappiest, rustiest,hear-it-crackle- as it falls apart in your hands 5 seconds after sawing,skyrox. i'll start with: tsarev, brahin, campo. what have YOU got?!you georgia skyrockers- keep it to yourself until we wind this down (i alreadyknow what YOU are think of).i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs ofstorage). please cc 
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RE: [meteorite-list] AD - ebay auctions and space passports

2005-10-07 Thread moni Waiblinger-Seabridge
This is funny, because do you remember 'Bobby' Haag used to sell space 
passports!


Scroll down on this page and you will see I am telling the truth! ;-)

http://www.lightningsmiths.com/jwsmith.html

Sternengruss, Moni  :-)


From: Meteoriteshow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Meteorite List Meteoritecentral meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - ebay auctions
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 16:00:15 +0200

Dear Meteoritelistics!

This is the final call for the passengers to space flight meteoriteshow 
001, destination to meteorite ebay auctions ending
tomorrow! No need for any ticket or passport, just click on the links 
hereunder for immediate boarding and lift up. I wish you a
pleasant flight and grant any winning passenger of the List a 5% discount 
on the value of their final bid(s), after presentation of
a copy of this message by the winner(s) e-mailed to me. Thanks for cruising 
with us =;o))


1-  METEORITE: CM2 - ACFER 331 0.1gr - W0 !
Here you have two little pieces of this CM2, both with a cut surface and 
fusion crust on the other side. Total weight is 0.1g.
Should you like to have some of this rare meteorite at a more than 
reasonable price, then come on board an click:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6566457120rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITrd=1

2-  METEORITE: L4/5 O.C. - ACFER 329 - 4.0gr SLICE
Acfer 329 is a fresh and beautiful O.C. This end-cut is very typical, with 
large metal flakes, a fair grey matrix and chondrules
with sharply defined boundaries. The cut section has been well polished so 
that you can fully enjoy its nice structure. Take off!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6566457652rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITrd=1

3-  METEORITE: LL4 O.C. - TANEZROUFT 060 15.6gr END-CUT
Tanezrouft 060, a very pourous LL4 with large fractured chondrules is 
really unusual. You may not have anything similar in your
collection. Partly fusion crusted, this 15.6g end-cut is staying at 
starting price ($29.00 USD). Isn't it an opportunity?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6566458260rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITrd=1

4-  METEORITE: UNCLASSIFIED O.C. - FROM A.CARION COLLECTION
A nice slice of an unclassified chondrite that comes from the Alain 
Carion's collection, that will be sent with its original label
(see pictures) + meteoriteshow Certificate of Authenticity. Large surface: 
57x50mm.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6566458697rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITrd=1

5-  METEORITE: ZAG 8.5gr - SPECIAL WITNESSED FALL !
This 8.5g end-cut with a 40x20mm cut surface is showing the two different 
typical lithologies of ZAG, in equal proportions. I supply
with this famous meteorite a set of articles about it (see pictures) 
printed on A5 format and its Certificate of Authenticity of
course. You know that ZAG is not offered so often on ebay and this one is 
just at starting price at the time I write this e-mail...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6566459038rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITrd=1

6-  RARE METEORITE: ETTER 20.9gr - L5 O.C. (S5)
Have a nice long slice of this famous Texan meteorite in you collection if 
you don't have it yet! Nicely polished on one side, it
has been left rough from cutting on the other side so that you can have two 
different contrasts. Worth watching  bidding!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6566459630rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITrd=1

Once again thanx for flying Meteoriteshow and have a wonderful trip!
Kind regards,

'Captain Fred  his Crew'
http://www.meteoriteshow.com
IMCA member # 2491 (http://www.imca.cc/)
ebay auctions: 
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ50QQsassZmeteoriteshow


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Re: [meteorite-list] POLL: rustiest most unstable known

2005-10-07 Thread Kevin Forbes
A P.S. to my last, a Nantan, Nandan, near corroded in front of me in 1 week, 
I cleaned off some of the Goethite, Iron oxide, and away it went, 25% of the 
rotten thing turned into a pile of scale where it sat. Brr. I should 
have left it alone, it had sort of already stabilised over 500 years.



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From: David Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POLL: rustiest most unstable known
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 03:39:31 -0700 (PDT)
nantan's gotta be #1

--- harlan trammell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


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ok, folks what it is? let's see the TOP 10 sweatiest, crappiest, 
rustiest,

hear-it-crackle- as it falls apart in your hands 5 seconds after sawing,
skyrox. i'll start with: tsarev, brahin, campo. what have YOU got?!

you georgia skyrockers- keep it to yourself until we wind this down (i 
already

know what YOU are think of).



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[meteorite-list] Here are Munich show details for Friday

2005-10-07 Thread Christian Anger

Hi to all

that will be at the Munich Show and at the Friday evening 
in the Fliegerbräu !

First we have a short meeting at Erich Haiderer's table A4.526
at exactly 14:00 hrs.

After the show we meet in the Fliegerbräu.
A minute brewery with Bavarian and other food and no umpah music.
It's in the nearby village Feldkirchen. 

The address is:

Flieger Bräu
Sonnenstrasse 2
85622 Feldkirchen

http://www.fliegerbraeu.de/


Marked with the red arrow in the plans.

We reserved places from 19:00hrs on (show ends always at 18:00 for visitors)
and Martin will be there somewhat earlier.

How to get there:

By car:

There are two possibilities to exit the parking places.

Here a map of the fair areal. Click on the right plan on bottom.

http://www.mineralientage.com/1_MM_start/2_Welcome_E/3_01_E_Besucherservice/
4_01_2_E_Anfahrt/4_01_2_E_Anfahrt.php

If you leave to the North:

Just turn to your right and follow the street. (Paul-Henri-Spaak-Str.) After
ca. 1km you will cross the large highway and after 300m more you will enter
the village Feldkirchen (yellow traffic sign).
Carry on. After 1km, on the left there branches off the Sonnenstrasse.
Directly there
we are.
It's directly behind a yellow hotel, called Zur Sonne.

If you leave the parking places to the South:

Just turn to the left, follow the street (De-Gaspari-Bogen), which makes a
bow. Turn into first possible road to the right, then like above.


By bus:

At the fair exit Messestadt Ost, at the subway station, there is the bus
station.
Take Bus N° 228  direction Ismaning.
Exit the bus at the third station:  Feldkirchen Münchner Straße. (takes 5
minutes).

Cross the street, follow the street, it's the main street of the village.
The fifth street, to the left, called Sonnenstrasse - shortly after you'll
have passed a yellow Hotel called Zur Sonne - there you enter the street
and there we are in the grey brick building.
It's about 500m to walk.

You may exit also the bus one station later, Feldkirchen (6min) - train
symbol in plan2 - and follow the instruction by S-Bahn (suburban railway).

As ticket you have to choose from the vending machine:   Kurzstrecke.
If you have a Streifenkarte use one stripe.

With S-Bahn (suburban railway)

For those, who want to get back first in their hotels in the city center to
rest a while after the show,  the place is easy reachable by S-Bahn.
Follow the green signs with S.
Choose line number S6 direction Erding.
Exit at station Feldkirchen.
Marked with the railway symbol in plan2.
Just follow the street Sonnenstrasse until its end. Left is Fliegerbräu,
slightly less than 500m to walk.
Number S6 is leaving every 20 minutes.
From Munich Central Station for example it takes 20 minutes to
Feldkirchen, faster than by car.
As ticket from all stations in the city choose Einzelfahrkarte use 2
stripes of the Streifenkarte.


By Taxi:

At all exists of the fair, you'll find taxis. This short track won't be that
expensive, especially not if you'll share it with other meteorite fellows.
As destination tell Fliegerbräu (pronounce fleagerbroy).


Important for those, who come by plane:

Munich airport is situated about 25km away from the city center.
There exist only two connecting roads, a states road and the highway.
Unfortunately the highway is now under construction to be enlarged for the
football chamionship in 2006.
So on both ways it can happen, that you will stuck in the traffic jam. With
bad luck it can happen that it will take more than 2 hours.

I recommend to go by S-Bahn. Leaves every ten minutes. Takes a little less
than 40 minutes to city center. Buy a Streifenkarte and cancel 8 stripes.
(Card has 10 stripes, the 2 stripes left, you may use to go to the show).

Public transportation:
In general it's the fastest method to moove through town.
The same ticket is good for subway, suburbian, bus, tramway.
You have to cancel your ticket only once and you may change without
cancelling another one.
You may have even a break of maximum 3 hours and it will be still valuable.
Your allowed to go only in one direction (or you may drive in circles,
hehe), back you need another one.
Tarif  price system can't be understood by educated humans.
Cheapest way is to take a multiple ticket. The BLUE streifenkarte (stripe
card?).
For one tour in the city - fold back 2 stripes.
One card has 10 stripes. Vending machines at each stations. Press the blue
botton. - If you prefer a single ticket, choose Einzelfahrkarte 
The fair is easy accessible by U-Bahn (blue signs - da tube, subway,
metropolitain).
Line N°  U2 - until terminal station:  Messestadt Ost .

Now some online maps, where you can look by your own.

The Fair is at  Willi-Brandt-Allee in Munich.
The Fliegerbräu is at Sonnenstrasse 2, Feldkirchen, ZIP 85622

www.map24.com

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?dtype=a


http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll?qscr=mmfn


City Map of Munich:
http://www.muenchen.de/home/60093/Homepage.html

Information about the show:


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[meteorite-list] Hayabusa Has Steering Trouble

2005-10-07 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/dn8112-japans-asteroid-probe-has-steering-trouble.html

Japan's asteroid probe has steering trouble
Kelly Young
New Scientist
07 October 2005

Japan's asteroid-probing spacecraft has a steering problem that could
become an obstacle to the completion of its scientific mission.

The second of three reaction wheels on the Hayabusa spacecraft failed on
3 October. The reaction wheels keep the spacecraft's instruments pointed
at the asteroid Itokawa and its solar arrays pointed at the Sun. The
first wheel failed on 31 July 2005.

With the second failure, the spacecraft has had to use precious
hydrazine fuel to keep it from gradually descending toward the asteroid
and to keep it from drifting in the wrong direction. Japanese flight
controllers are currently studying the problem and determining how long
the spacecraft's fuel will last.

Launched on 9 May 2003, Hayabusa aims to be the first craft to bring
pieces of an asteroid back to Earth. Currently at the asteroid, Hayabusa
will descend toward the surface and touch down twice in November. Each
time, a fabric cone will touch the surface, triggering the firing of a
pellet into the asteroid at 300 metres per second. After each shot, the
probe will take off and attempt to catch dust ejected by the impact.
  
Shortened stay

The problem is that hydrazine fuel is needed to push off the asteroid
each time, and one rehearsal manoeuvre is also planned for November.
Hayabusa will spend mid October scouting out touchdown sites.

They wouldn't eliminate the touchdown manoeuvres unless it was
absolutely impossible to carry them out, Don Yeomans, the mission's US
project scientist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena,
California, told New Scientist.

Instead, they could shorten the amount of time that Hayabusa spends at
the asteroid, thus reducing the amount of fuel that will be used to keep
the probe properly oriented. Hayabusa is scheduled to begin its journey
back to Earth in December 2005 and should arrive in June 2007.

The craft has almost finished mapping the surface of the asteroid. It
found rubble on its surface, but no visible craters, although the chunks
of rubble are consistent with material thrown out of a crater during an
impact. And the size of the rocks and blocks suggest they were thrown
out of a large crater, Yeomans says.

It is possible that something, such as seismic shaking, may be filling
in the craters. There have to be craters there, somewhere, Yeomans
says, they're just not obvious.

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[meteorite-list] Unlocking the Organic Composition of Ancient Asteroids

2005-10-07 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.physorg.com/news7056.html

Unlocking the organic composition of ancient asteroids
by Gina Buss
PhysOrg.com
October 07, 2005

Meteorites contain fragments of asteroids brought about by collisions
within the asteroid belt. These meteorites have not been exposed to
geological processes experienced by planets and stars. Therefore, much
of the matter in these meteorites originates from the formation of the
Solar System some 4.5 billion years ago.

Being the only record of the Solar System's pre-biotic chemical
evolution, scientists have tried for years to extract and study this
material. It is believed that discovering the composition of meteorites
will reveal what the Solar System was made of at its birth and how those
materials evolved into our current-day universe.

Most of the methods used to extract this matter have failed leading to
the destruction of the meteorite material or just the inability to
extract any compounds.

However, a recent study from the Planetary and Space Science Journal
explains how scientists have developed a novel approach to extracting
these meteoric materials. It's called hydropyrolysis.

This new technology uses high hydrogen gas pressures, extreme
temperature, and water as a non-destructive means for extracting organic
and inorganic compounds from meteorites.

This process has revealed high amounts of carbon and nitrogen- elements
essential to life at the core of the meteorites. Also, this new
technology revealed several never-before-seen organic molecules.

The results of this study also contradict a common understanding to the
origin of meteorites. It is thought that meteoric material originated
from a molecular could that collapsed to form the Solar System.
Scientists using hydropyrolysis believe this is a misconception and seek
to use this technology to find the true origin of the organic matter in
meteorites.

Scientists hope that the use of this new technology will offer even more
clues into the composition of the Solar System when it was forming.

Finally researchers have a way to trace the evolutionary path of organic
compounds which will ultimately lead to knowledge of the evolution of
our universe.

Reference:
Sephton M, Love G, Meredith W, Snape C, Sun C, and Watson J. 2005.
Planetary and Space Science Journal. Article in Press.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Unlocking the Organic Composition of AncientAsteroids

2005-10-07 Thread K. Ohtsuka
see also

http://ads.nao.ac.jp/cgi-bin/nph-bib_query?bibcode=2005P%26SS...53.1280Samp;db_key=ASTamp;data_type=HTMLamp;format=amp;high=411ea5d28b29620

Kat. O., TOKYO

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AncientAsteroids



 http://www.physorg.com/news7056.html

 Unlocking the organic composition of ancient asteroids
 by Gina Buss
 PhysOrg.com
 October 07, 2005

 Meteorites contain fragments of asteroids brought about by collisions
 within the asteroid belt. These meteorites have not been exposed to
 geological processes experienced by planets and stars. Therefore, much
 of the matter in these meteorites originates from the formation of the
 Solar System some 4.5 billion years ago.

 Being the only record of the Solar System's pre-biotic chemical
 evolution, scientists have tried for years to extract and study this
 material. It is believed that discovering the composition of meteorites
 will reveal what the Solar System was made of at its birth and how those
 materials evolved into our current-day universe.

 Most of the methods used to extract this matter have failed leading to
 the destruction of the meteorite material or just the inability to
 extract any compounds.

 However, a recent study from the Planetary and Space Science Journal
 explains how scientists have developed a novel approach to extracting
 these meteoric materials. It's called hydropyrolysis.

 This new technology uses high hydrogen gas pressures, extreme
 temperature, and water as a non-destructive means for extracting organic
 and inorganic compounds from meteorites.

 This process has revealed high amounts of carbon and nitrogen- elements
 essential to life at the core of the meteorites. Also, this new
 technology revealed several never-before-seen organic molecules.

 The results of this study also contradict a common understanding to the
 origin of meteorites. It is thought that meteoric material originated
 from a molecular could that collapsed to form the Solar System.
 Scientists using hydropyrolysis believe this is a misconception and seek
 to use this technology to find the true origin of the organic matter in
 meteorites.

 Scientists hope that the use of this new technology will offer even more
 clues into the composition of the Solar System when it was forming.

 Finally researchers have a way to trace the evolutionary path of organic
 compounds which will ultimately lead to knowledge of the evolution of
 our universe.

 Reference:
 Sephton M, Love G, Meredith W, Snape C, Sun C, and Watson J. 2005.
 Planetary and Space Science Journal. Article in Press.


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[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: October 6-7, 2005

2005-10-07 Thread Ron Baalke

MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
October 6-7, 2005

o Summer in the South (Released 06 October 2005)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20051006a  

o Polar Etched Terrain (Released 07 October 2005)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20051007a


All of the THEMIS images are archived here:

http://themis.la.asu.edu/latest.html

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission 
for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission 
Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University,
Tempe, in collaboration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. 
The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State 
University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor 
for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission 
operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a 
division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. 


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[meteorite-list] Re: AD: Rare Falls on eBay

2005-10-07 Thread Martin Horejsi
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/zagami/

Howdy Folks,

Just a quick reminder that I have posted a couple dozen pieces of
rare falls etc. on ebay. There is less than 24hrs left, and many good deals.

http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/zagami/

Just click on the above link to take you to the auctions. Several are
from the Nininger Collection, a couple are more than 200 years old,
and a few others have very low, sometimes sub-Kg TKWs.

Remember, these things don't grow on trees. The chance to own such
material is not an everyday occurence. In fact, most of these pieces
came from a research collection that until I opened the container, the
material had remained peacefully packed away since 1970! Further, for
many of the locations offered on ebay right now, that is all the
material I have from that location. For most of the others, the piece
on ebay is the largest I have.

Here is a list of locations:

Trenzano
Vouille'
Shelbourne
Axtell
Avanhandava
Assisi
Apt (1803 Fall)
Allegan
Albareto (1766 Fall)
Almogordo
Abee
Boxhole-oriented
Bowesmont
Bereba
Beardsley
Bachmut
Elenovka
Crab Orchard
Butsura
Bur-Gheluia
Bruderheim
Brewster
Kunashak
Kulnine
Juvinas
Hugoton
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Goalpara
Fisher (Nininger Collection)
Nuevo Mercurio
Modoc
Miller
Menow
Loomis
Little Piney (hit a tree)
L'Aigle (Nininger Collection)
Gobabeb
Shalka
Pultusk (Nininger Collection)
Potter (Huss/AML)
Pesyanoe
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Zhovtnevyi
Washougal
Travis County
Sutton
Starvopol
Songyuan

Happy Hunting again.

Martin

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RE: [meteorite-list] POLL: rustiest most unstable known

2005-10-07 Thread Bill Mason III
I'd like to wade in here uninvited. My life has been around adhesives and
corrosion. In order to have corrosion you have to have H2O + O2 + Cl and if
you have a meteorite in a vacuum you will not have corrosion. The Ionic
vapor phase happens when moisture can reach an unstable substrate. The
rusting is the attempt of the substrate to return to its original state.

Rusting under a coating is common when you have a coating that has
micro-porosity and no vapor phase inhibitor in the formula of the coating.
Encapsulated moisture with a bit of oxygen makes a great environment for
ionic exchange. = rust

Bill Mason rusty  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Hi Harlan, Dronino, It came supposedly protected, coated in nail polish, 
withtin a few days began corroding. A month later, it was lifting the nail 
polish. It is now sitting in a jar of caustic and methylated spirits, in an 
attempt at removing its hydroscopic properties. One piece I got, I coated in

beeswax immediately. It has not yet showed any corrosion, but probably will.

Sweaty finger prints on Gibeon are also a problem, one bit needs sanding and

re-polishing.
Kevin. VK3UKF.


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ok, folks what it is? let's see the TOP 10 sweatiest, crappiest, rustiest, 
hear-it-crackle- as it falls apart in your hands 5 seconds after sawing, 
skyrox. i'll start with: tsarev, brahin, campo. what have YOU got?!

you georgia skyrockers- keep it to yourself until we wind this down (i 
already know what YOU are think of).



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RE: [meteorite-list] POLL: rustiest most unstable known

2005-10-07 Thread Bill Mason III
For what it's worth I have taken the NANTAN and have treated it and it's the
fifth year and NO RUST.

Bill Mason  rusty

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A P.S. to my last, a Nantan, Nandan, near corroded in front of me in 1 week,

I cleaned off some of the Goethite, Iron oxide, and away it went, 25% of the

rotten thing turned into a pile of scale where it sat. Brr. I should 
have left it alone, it had sort of already stabilised over 500 years.

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 nantan's gotta be #1
 
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[meteorite-list] New meteorite website

2005-10-07 Thread Sara Arsenault

Dear list,

Over the last year, the Montreal Planetarium developed an educational 
website concerning meteorites. Many collectors from the list collaborated to 
the project and we want to thank them for their precious collaboration. The 
site Meteorites, messengers from Space is now on-line at the following URL : 
http://www.planetarium.montreal.qc.ca/Information/Expo_Meteorites/index_a.html


Comments and suggestions are welcome! If you like the site, please add its 
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Re: [meteorite-list] POLL: rustiest most unstable known

2005-10-07 Thread Mark Miconi
I have had my nantan in Arizona for 6 years with no changes. We use 
evaporative cooling for most of the summer with no ill effects.


I must have just been lucky to get a stable piece. I know it is destined to 
crumble one day.


Mark not rusty

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For what it's worth I have taken the NANTAN and have treated it and it's 
the

fifth year and NO RUST.

Bill Mason  rusty

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A P.S. to my last, a Nantan, Nandan, near corroded in front of me in 1 
week,


I cleaned off some of the Goethite, Iron oxide, and away it went, 25% of 
the


rotten thing turned into a pile of scale where it sat. Brr. I should
have left it alone, it had sort of already stabilised over 500 years.


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nantan's gotta be #1

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