Re: [meteorite-list] Introduction
Thanks for your warm welcome Adam. I have a few samples of NWA and have considered going on my own search there, but until I know more I'll stick to searching here in the USA. I'll be joining the various societies and other mailinglists to be sure I go about things correctly. Great to be here! Gary On 15 Dec 2005 at 13:11, Adam Hupe wrote: Hi Gary, Welcome to the List and to collecting meteorites. I would say you got into collecting at the right time. I say this because of the amount of material that is now available to collectors is immense. Just a few years ago, there was not much selection as far as rare material goes. Now, thanks to Northwest Africa (Sahara Desert) and other hot deserts the selection is outstanding. The prices are in tune with the amount of supply and are the best I have seen so your timing seems perfect. A few years from now I am sure some collectors will be kicking themselves for not taking advantage of the present situation. Instead of a handful of meteorite hunters, there are now thousands if you count the nomads who have been the most successful at recovering these rare objects. Then we have a group of hunters here in the United States who have become increasingly successful at recoveries in the Mojave Desert. Add to this Steve Arnold's recent, outstanding and record breaking Pallasite find and you have the makings of some pretty exciting times. I almost forgot the Europeans and Russians who have come up with some excellent material as well and have been at it for a long time. Dave Carothers pointed out the presence of the International Meteorite Collectors Association (IMCA). This is a great not-for-profit group of collectors, dealers and scientists who are here to serve this great avocation. Their members adhere to the strictest standards and a well-written Code of Ethics to help insure that collectors will be getting the real deal. Meteorite collecting as a hobby is starting to mature and the IMCA will be there to add much needed professionalism. Sit back and enjoy the dynamics that are now in play and will be there in the future to insure continued growth and satisfaction. Best Wishes and Welcome Aboard, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Finding the Origin of the Solar System through Stardust
http://www.lacanadaonline.com/articles/2005/12/15/news/lnws-jpl1215.txt Finding the Origin of the Solar System through Stardust By Mary O'Keefe La Canada Valley Sun December 16, 2005 So all JPL's Stardust spacecraft has to do is fly close behind a comet, collect dust particles and rocks from its tail, and return to Earth with those samples so scientist can study the origin of the Universe. Just your normal, everyday science fiction turn reality type of thing they do at JPL. For over seven years the Stardust spacecraft has traveled over billions of miles in space. It encountered the tail of Comet Wild 2, collected material, and will land in the Utah desert on January 15, 2006. The material is frozen in time, said Tom Duxbury, Stardust project manager at JPL. The material is particles from the tail and coma of Comet Wild 2. The jets of material spewing out as the comet travels through space. The jets will force material from the nucleus of the comet toward the sun then the solar winds blow it back away from the sun, explains Duxbury. The Stardust spacecraft, flying within 147 miles of the comet, retrieved material as it was going toward the sun. It was real fresh stuff, Duxbury said. The spacecraft can hold on to the dust and rock particles thanks to Aerogel, a silicon-based solid with a porous, sponge-like structure that is 99.8 percent air and 0.2 percent silica dioxide. It was discovered by chemist Samuel S. Kistler in the late 1930s. It has been used by NASA/JPL for spacecraft insulation on the Mars Pathfinder mission and for the Stardust mission. It was prepared and flight qualified at JPL. The particles from Comet Wild 2 decelerate as they bore deeper into the threadlike silica of the Areogel, allowing samples sustain minimal damage while being collected. Finding the perfect comet was not an easy task, however the nature of the solar system gave scientists a little help. Comets travel at the far edge of the galaxy. Periodically some will fly by a planet and it will be thrown closer to us [because of the planet's gravity], Duxbury said. In 1974, when Wild 2 flew close to Jupiter, its gravity threw it into the orbit of Mars. That placed the comet at our doorstep, Duxbury said. The solar system gave us a gift. Comets are important to study because they give us a glimpse into our solar system's history. The material that will be brought back is estimated to be 4.6 billion years old. [It is] the origin of our solar system, Duxbury said. All planets, asteroids, and the Sun are made of comets. Cometary material condensed into commentary bodies, which condensed into planets, Duxbury added. Comets are mostly made of water. It is thought that most of the Earth's water was brought by comets. Scientist have received some data by flybys of the comet. At first we thought comets were like dirty snowballs but based on fly bys it is more like snowy dirtballs, Duxbury explained. Duxbury will go to the Utah desert next week to join in an exercise practicing the spacecraft's landing and retrieval. The moon will be at the same phase as the recovery on January 15, Duxbury said. He is not concerned about the recent crash landing of Genesis. The mission was to capture particles of the solar wind and bring them back to Earth with a dramatic Hollywood ending. Stunt pilots trained to capture the spacecraft with hooks before it fell to the ground. That plan failed with the pilots not even getting a chance to try their maneuver, the parachutes did not deploy correctly. The spacecraft made a deep impression in the Utah desert floor, but some data was still able to be retrieved and used in research. Duxbury said that they have studied the errors of Genesis and are confident this will not happen to their spacecraft. The Stardust spacecraft is scheduled to reenter Earth's atmosphere and touch down at approximately 3:15 a.m. January 15. The craft will be taken to a clean room in a nearby hangar. The canister will not be opened until it is at the curation facility at the Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas. Scientists from around the world can request samples of the material for study through NASA. At that point Duxbury's job will be completed and scientist study the material will take over. After working at JPL for 40 years, Duxbury takes it all in stride. Yet he can't help to emphasize how important this mission can be to the study of the origin of the Earth and of the solar system. He quotes from a fellow scientist, We are all made of stardust. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: December 12-16, 2005
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES December 12-16, 2005 o Galle Crater Dunes (Released 12 December 2005) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20051212a o Polar textures (Released 13 December 2005) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20051213a o Brashear Crater Dunes (Released 14 December 2005) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20051214a o Polar textures (Released 15 December 2005) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20051215a o Ascraeus Mons (Released 16 December 2005) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20051216a All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.la.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in collaboration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Woodsman Finds Third Meteorite in Canada Since 1998
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/subscriber/local/story/3222508p-3730680c.html Whiteshell a hot spot for hunting space rocks Manitoba woodsman finds third meteorite since 1998 By Helen Fallding Winnipeg Free Press December 16, 2005 A meteorite prospecting rush could hit southeastern Manitoba next summer after a third find by the same man within a relatively small area proved the Whiteshell region is a space rock hot spot. There may be hundreds or thousands to find there, University of Calgary planet scientist Alan Hildebrand said at a news conference yesterday at the Manitoba Museum. Derek Erstelle had already found two meteorites near Lac du Bonnet in about 1998 and 2002, prompting speculation that the area might have an unusually high concentration of the multibillion-year-old rocks that fall from space. Only eight meteorites have been identified in the province in the last century. Erstelle said yesterday he found his third meteorite when traipsing through the bush this summer in the Whiteshell area to test the theory that a load of meteorites was dumped there when glaciers retreated at the end of the last ice age. An experienced woodsman who spends up to a month at a time in the wilderness looking for gemstones and antlers to carve, Erstelle spotted unusual-looking gravel through his binoculars on the Whiteshell River in October. When he checked it out, he discovered several pieces of a large rusting meteorite. The five-kilogram find could be worth $5,000 to $50,000. So far, Erstelle has donated a chunk of the exceptionally heavy rock to scientists. He wants to make rings for himself and a friend from the crystalline interior, but has not decided what to do with the rest. His first find was sold to the Royal Ontario Museum. Hildebrand said Erstelle would have been more likely to win the lottery than stumble on three meteorites by accident -- unless there's an unusual concentration in the Whiteshell. No other Canadian has ever found more than one meteorite. Meteorites that fall on glaciers are carried along to the ice sheet's edge as if on a conveyor belt, Hildebrand explained. In Antarctica, where that process is still happening, more than 10,000 have been found at the edge of ice sheets. Scientists have searched for similar deposits in North America, with no luck until now. Hildebrand said southeastern Manitoba, northwestern Ontario and northern Minnesota are where two lobes of the Laurentide ice sheet met about 11,500 years ago. If Erstelle's meteorites were carried by the glacier, they must have fallen from space more than 11,000 years ago. Tests are underway to prove that. The meteor-rich area is potentially more than 100 kilometres from north to south and 50 kilometres wide, said Erstelle, who is not worried about competition from other searchers. Meteorites are fragments of asteroids that once orbited between Mars and Jupiter before crossing paths with the Earth. Hildebrand said it's important to study them in case scientists discover that a dangerously large asteroid is on a collision course with Earth and scientists need to try to alter the path of the incoming projectile. They also provide information about the space dust that can damage space ships. Some day, humans may also mine meteorites in space for their mineral content. Erstelle credits his success to the wilderness skills he learned from his grandfather in a small Métis community at the south end of Lake Manitoba. St. Laurent is rich culturally and spiritually, he said. The man who always collected pebbles as a child combs the ground with metal detectors and magnets and uses GPS equipment to map his finds. His three meteorites have high iron content, making them easier to detect. Erstelle's first meteorite was found in Pinawa Dam Provincial Heritage Park. The next fragments were about 40 kilometres away near Bernic Lake in the Whiteshell Provincial Forest. Meteorites typically have a burnt crust on the outside, are unusually heavy and may have depressions that look like fingerprints. They may be rusted and attract magnets. If you think you have found a meteorite, contact the Prairie Meteorite Search at www.geo.ucalgary.ca/PMSearch. --- http://www.globetechnology.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20051216.gtmeteorites16/BNStory/Technology/ Space rocks in eastern Manitoba By ANNE MCILROY Global and Mail (Canada) December 16, 2005 Derek Erstelle, Canada's top meteorite hunter, compares himself to a bird of prey. He gets on high ground, like a raptor, and scans the bush in southeastern Manitoba for rusty spots. I try to mimic animal behaviour when I'm hunting, he says. The amateur geologist from Winnipeg has found three rust-coloured space rocks amid the poplars and pines, a Canadian record that was announced yesterday at a news conference in Winnipeg. The meteorites are about the size of a man's hand, he says, but heavy, about 3.5 kilograms. Two
[meteorite-list] baygorria on ebay
this person has 200+kg of baygorria for sale unless i read the ads wrong. thought, as is stated in description, only one 80kg mass found? http://cgi.ebay.com/WORLD-CLASS-MUSEUM-QUALITY-BAYGORRIA-METEORITE-175-kg_W0QQitemZ6587606440QQcategoryZ3239QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] On The Hunt For Kansas Meteorites
http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/news/nation/13422308.htm On the hunt for Kansas meteorites BY KEVIN MURPHY Knight Ridder Newspapers December 16, 2005 GREENSBURG, Kan. - Bouncing over the dirt rows of the newly planted wheat field, Steve Arnold's contraption of plastic pipes mounted on six lawnmower wheels looks mighty strange. And then there is Arnold - pulling the rig behind him while a plastic bucket containing a metal detector hangs around his neck. Odd as he looks out there in the field, Arnold has brought a new and lucrative form of farming to south-central Kansas: He harvests meteorites. A cash crop, Arnold says, beaming. It certainly can be. Last month, Arnold announced that he had dug up near Greensburg a 1,400-pound pallasite meteorite, the largest of its type ever found in the United States. It could be worth at least $1 million, possibly up to $3 million, experts said. The owner of the land where Arnold found his prize will get a nice cut of the sale price. Arnold has signed leases with the owners of some 3,000 acres to look for meteorites. He pays them up front for hunting rights, and they get a share of his sales. I've never heard of anyone doing that before, said Jeffrey Grossman, a geochemist and secretary of the Meteoritical Society, an international planetary science organization. Arnold's partner and lawyer, Phil Mani of San Antonio, Texas, set up the recent contracts and paid expenses for Arnold's prospecting in Kansas. Mani said the contracts are a first and are necessary because meteorites are otherwise the property of owners of the land where they fall. We are going to cover all the land where we think meteorites can be found, Mani said. Arnold makes his living trading and selling meteorites, which are sought after by museums and universities and by collectors tantalized by the other-world nature of such rocks. Meteorites come from the asteroid belt formed at the dawn of the solar system about 4.3 billion years ago. It's from out there on the other side of Mars. How cool is that? Arnold said. You can own something that has not changed since the beginning of the solar system. Meteorites, most smaller than grapefruits, are sold over the Internet and at shows. Arnold's is being kept in Texas and will be displayed at a major gem and mineral show in Tucson next month. News of his discovery spread fast, landing Arnold on several national news shows and stirring envy in the meteorite community. Its overwhelming size and shape make it truly unique, said Allan Lang, a well-known meteorite dealer in upstate New York. Meanwhile, Arnold is back in the field looking for more. His high-powered metal detector can pick up signals 20 feet below ground, he said. There may be something bigger, but I doubt there is something better, Arnold said. Arnold's meteorite is dark orange to bronze in color, measures about 36 by 30 inches and has a rare bullet-like shape and smooth surface. Pallasite meteorites such as Arnold's are made of iron nickel and olivine crystals and account for less than 1 percent of all discovered meteorites, which are rare in the first place. Kansas is a leading source of meteorite discoveries in the United States, authorities say. The state is extensively farmed, and it has relatively little foliage and few indigenous rocks that people may confuse with meteorites, said Geoffrey Notkin, an Arizona meteorite hunter who has sometimes helped Arnold search in Kansas. Another reason is that 1,000 to 2,000 years ago, the Greensburg area was pelted with meteorites from what later was named the Brenham meteorite, after the township where some pieces landed. Prehistoric Indians gathered the fragments as religious symbols, and the first documented collections occurred in the 1880s. In the 1920s, famed meteorite collector Harvey Nininger found a crater from one point of impact, and he encouraged residents to look for meteorites. The Brenham meteorites are in collections worldwide, including at Harvard and Yale universities, the Smithsonian Institution and in an exhibit at the American Museum of Natural History in New York. The previous largest meteorite was found in 1949 and is on display at a Greensburg museum that also is home to the world's largest hand-dug well. Greensburg is a town of 1,500, about 110 miles west of Wichita. Meteorite hunting has tapered off in the Greensburg area in recent decades as people assumed fields had been tapped out. But Arnold did some research that showed otherwise, though he declined to be specific. There's an element of a good old-fashioned treasure hunt to it, complete with a treasure map, said Arnold, who lives in northern Arkansas but bought a house in Greensburg to serve as a search base. Arnold's German-made metal detector can find metal much deeper than most detectors. The coil of the detector is mounted on the flat trailer-like rig that he pulls behind an all-terrain vehicle. A cable connects the coil to the
[meteorite-list] Re: Introduction
Thanks for your warm welcome Adam. I have a few samples of NWA and have considered going on my own search there, but until I know more I'll stick to searching here in the USA. I'll be joining the various societies and other mailinglists to be sure I go about things correctly. Great to be here! Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Vesicular Basalt
Hello Bernd, Thanks for the welcome. The piece I describe as vesicular basalt is only a guess on my part. It just looks too much like it to be much else. I probably should have it tested, eh?I could be wrong after all. It does show some attraction to magnets. Thank you for the reference to Warren Foote. I'll have to look further to read more about him. Happy to be here, Gary On 16 Dec 2005 at 11:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary kindly wrote: I wanted to post, as a new member of this list, a bit of introduction. Welcome to our List! I have been an amateur atronomer since I was a child You will find out that many of us are both amateur astronomers (or have a vivid interest in everything celestial) and passionate lovers of these messengers from the sky. ...a meteorwrong [vesicular basalt] here in New England. What a pity it is a meteorwrong. A brief, passing look and one might think it is a vesicular impact melt rock like Cat Mountain (an L5 impact melt breccia which has vesicles too!). Anyway, I'm happy to be among this illustrious company Your family name should be a good omen, because it is also an illustrious name meteorite-wise. Here's an example: ART. XXXIX.-Preliminary Note on the Shower of Meteoric Stones near Holbrook, Navajo County, Arizona, July 19th, 1912, including a Reference to the Perseid Swarm of Meteors visible from July 11th to August 22nd by WARREN M. FOOTE. Unfortunately I'm 54 No problem at all ... I am almost 61 ;-) Best wishes from Germany, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite finder list
Hi All, I've been spending some spare time compiling a list of prolific meteorite finders (primarily extracting all finders' names from Meteoritical Bulletins), and was wondering if anyone had a list of meteorites found by Nininger (since his heydays predate the Bulletins)? His influence is certainly responsible for hundreds of meteorites being recovered from the grain belt, but I haven't been able to find a list of meteorites he actually found himself. Of course, any such list that I can compile will be very incomplete since some of the most prolific finders are nameless nomads from Northwest Africa, the dozens of Antarctic finders working as teams, and anonymous hunters searching in Libya, Egypt, Oman and other hot desert locations. (There are a LOT of Acfer finds!) --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites Found By Nininger
Hello Rob and List, I've been spending some spare time compiling a list of prolific meteorite finders ... and was wondering if anyone had a list of meteorites found by Nininger ... That must have been a pretty time-consuming but rewarding spare time activity! I don't know and my database doesn't help me much with the answer to this. There is one reference I can provide that may or may not have an answer: NININGER H.H. and NININGER A.D. (1950) The Nininger Collection of Meteorites: A Catalog and a History (American Meteorite Museum, Winslow, Arizona. 144 pp.). So, if anyone has or has access to this catalog, they may tell you (us) if it con- tains a list of the meteorites H.H. Nininger found himself. Best pre-Xmas wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite finder list
Rob M. writes: Of course, any such list that I can compile will be very incomplete since some of the most prolific finders are nameless nomads from Northwest Africa, the dozens of Antarctic finders working as teams, and anonymous hunters searching in Libya, Egypt, Oman and other hot desert locations Hola Rob, Not to mention the dust bowl unlucky farmers during the great depression that were inspired by Nininger! Would his actual finds really number more than 10 in his over a half century of hunting, and wouldn't most be in the book due to their importance to him as actually tracking the first piece down an picking up the very first piece in the field? I bet you may have actually found more than him...I assume the offering money and advertising in the papers, doing lectures and other promotion, nor going to strewn fields behind someone else doesn't count... My respects to H. H., he was the greatest at what he did! I completely agree with you on the credit that should be given that goes unrecognized in the areas you mention. Sorry, but while the Antarctic teams and the nomads, and other enterprising individuals have my deepest respect and great admiration for their successes, there is a big chasm between triangulating falls and sifting through sand and snow, though each of those activities definitely has its ticklish and consuming science. Neverthless, there is something about the under-our-noses contrarian initiative and varied landscape of Nininger's recoveries that I am betting you and most others would agree set him apart. It is a quite very difficult to put the finger on reason, but you know it when you see it. Saludos, Doug __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad-Announcing a NEW South American Iron and Much More!!!
Hi allWe wanted to wish everyone a happy Holiday season! We are pleased to be able to bring yet another beautiful, rare New Iron to the scientific and collecting community. We have recently acquired a lovely new iron from Patagonia. It is currently under scientific study and classification, and once we receive the classification data, we will pass it on to our customers. We are making a few specimens avialable now ahead of classification, and you can view these at: http://www.arizonaskiesmeteorites.com/Patagonian_Iron We were also very fortunate a number of months ago, in being able to acquire a number of new Uruacu Irons which were found over the past year or two near Goias, Brazil. The TKW of this fall is extremely low for an iron, and with the new finds is still only several hundred kilos. You can see some of our baby Uruacu at: http://www.arizonaskiesmeteorites.com/Uruacu For those of you that missed out on our gorgeous New Anomalous IID -NEA 002, we have listed several more beautiful specimens. This iron is a must for any serious iron collector, and has a TKW of only 5.48 kg! http://www.arizonaskiesmeteorites.com/AZ_Skies_Links/NEA_002/index.html For those of you that love Pallasites, we have some of the most gorgeous Imilac, Esquel, Fukang, and Brahin slices and part slices avialable anywhere. You can view these at: http://www.arizonaskiesmeteorites.com/AZ_Skies_Links/Stony_Irons/index.html And for those of you that love Achondrites and Planetary specimens, feel free to browse some of our newest additions, including a new Lunar, new Acopulcoite and our spectacular Pink Eucrite here: http://www.arizonaskiesmeteorites.com/AZ_Skies_Links/Achondrites/index.html We will be announcing a number of other new meteorites as time permits, so stay tuned... Enjoy! Cheers -John Dawn Arizona Skies Meteorites http://www.arizonaskiesmeteorites.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite finder list
Hi Rob, The book Bernd mentioned - NININGER H.H. and NININGER A.D. (1950) The Nininger Collection of Meteorites: A Catalog and a History (American Meteorite Museum, Winslow, Arizona. 144 pp.). contains maps of US-finds. Those which were definitely traceable to the field activities of the Nininger Survey are designated by a black dot., p.19 Now I have to check the maps and to find the names COLORADO: Akron Alamosa Arapahoe Arriba Bethune Briggsdale (somewhat strange dot) Cope Cortez De Nova Doyleville Eaton Holly Holyoke Horse Creek Hugo Karval Kelly Lost Lake Newson Ovid Peetz Phillips County Rifle Rush Creek Seibert Shaw Springfield Sterling Stonington Township 8 Weldona Wiley Wray KANSAS: Beardsley Brewster Cedar Colby Coldwater (iron) Coldwater (stone) Coolidge Covert Dwight Elkhart Garnett Goodland Grant County Haviland Horace Hugoton Ingalls Johnson Ladder Creek Lawrence Modoc No. 2 Morland Ness County No. 2 New Almelo Norcatur Norton Oberlin Otis Pierceville Ransom Rolla Rolla No. 2 Rolla No. 3 Seneca Ulysses Waldo Wilburton Wilmot + a missnumbered - it's on Southern border of Kingman, to the North-Western corner of Harper. I guess: Nashville NEBRASKA: Arcadia Broken Bow Bushnell Cotesfield Dix Farnum Hayes Center Hildreth Indianola Lancaster County Loomis Marsland Morrell Potter Saint Ann Sioux County Tryon Whitman WYOMING: Albin (pallasite) Bear Lodge Albin (stone) Clareton Hat Creek Hawk Creek Lusk Pine Bluffs Silver Crown Willow Creek NEW MEXICO Acme Alamogordo Aurora Aztec Farley Gladstone Grady Grady No. 2 Hobbs La Lande Melrose Pinon Roy Roy No. 2 Taiban Tatum Tequezyuito Creek Ute Creek Pasamonte TEXAS (Gulp. Almost unreadable, so small the map): Abernathy Lockney Lubbock Hale Center Hale Center No. 2 Floydada Shallowater McAddo Howe Brownfield Wellman Haskell Ballinger Monahans Brady Texline Gruver Spearman a misnumbered South-East of Texline Romero Channing Miami Laketon Adrian McLean Pallisades Park Brisco Co. The new Merbull database doesn't work yet, if one want to search the texts, so put the Blue Book on the knees. Best! Martin - Original Message - From: Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 9:47 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite finder list Hi All, I've been spending some spare time compiling a list of prolific meteorite finders (primarily extracting all finders' names from Meteoritical Bulletins), and was wondering if anyone had a list of meteorites found by Nininger (since his heydays predate the Bulletins)? His influence is certainly responsible for hundreds of meteorites being recovered from the grain belt, but I haven't been able to find a list of meteorites he actually found himself. Of course, any such list that I can compile will be very incomplete since some of the most prolific finders are nameless nomads from Northwest Africa, the dozens of Antarctic finders working as teams, and anonymous hunters searching in Libya, Egypt, Oman and other hot desert locations. (There are a LOT of Acfer finds!) --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Congratulations to Jason Utas
Way to go Jason!! Keep up the good work! Sonny -Original Message- From: Robert Verish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteoritecentral List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:54:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [meteorite-list] Congratulations to Jason Utas Would like to publicly congratulate one of our younger List members, Jason Utas, for his new California meteorite, this state's first Acapulcoite, Superior Valley 014. There is a preliminary write-up for his find here: http://tinyurl.com/74glt And it just so happens that, back in 2002, I took an image of this find: http://www.geocities.com/bolidechaser/drylakes/suv012-8.jpg This image was taken in the field from the hatch-back end of the Utas SUV shortly after Jason and his father, Peter Utas, made these finds at Superior Valley (in 2002). Even at that time, Jason was pointing out that this small (1.77g) stony was different looking. I agreed with him on that, and suggested that he and his father take it to UCLA and let Alan Rubin examine it. In anticipation of them doing this, I offered to help them get provisional numbers from the NomCom for all of these finds. And as an aid in getting this done, I suggested that before I take the image, they should line up all of their finds in the order that they were found. A minor point, but what resulted is this image with all their finds side-by-side, and in both numerical and chronological order. It sort of explains why we request provisional numbers, even for these small meteorites. It just seems prudent. And when one of them ends up being an Acapulcoite, it gives ample justification. It was serendipity that we crossed paths in the Mojave Desert on that weekend in September 2002. And the Utas were very obliging to let me image their recent finds. So I am very appreciative to them for having given me the opportunity to record, what is now 3 years later, a not-so-minor event in California meteorite-recovery. Jason, along with his dad, have gone on to find many more California meteorites. And Peter deserves some credit for getting his son involved in meteorite-recovery at such an early age. Jason and Peter should be proud of their accomplishments. Bob V. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Congratulations to Jason Utas
Way, way, way to go Jason But what is an Acapulcoite? Guess more to read up on! Terrific find!! :-) Moni From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Congratulations to Jason Utas Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:27:41 -0500 Way to go Jason!! Keep up the good work! Sonny -Original Message- From: Robert Verish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteoritecentral List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:54:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [meteorite-list] Congratulations to Jason Utas Would like to publicly congratulate one of our younger List members, Jason Utas, for his new California meteorite, this state's first Acapulcoite, Superior Valley 014. There is a preliminary write-up for his find here: http://tinyurl.com/74glt And it just so happens that, back in 2002, I took an image of this find: http://www.geocities.com/bolidechaser/drylakes/suv012-8.jpg This image was taken in the field from the hatch-back end of the Utas SUV shortly after Jason and his father, Peter Utas, made these finds at Superior Valley (in 2002). Even at that time, Jason was pointing out that this small (1.77g) stony was different looking. I agreed with him on that, and suggested that he and his father take it to UCLA and let Alan Rubin examine it. In anticipation of them doing this, I offered to help them get provisional numbers from the NomCom for all of these finds. And as an aid in getting this done, I suggested that before I take the image, they should line up all of their finds in the order that they were found. A minor point, but what resulted is this image with all their finds side-by-side, and in both numerical and chronological order. It sort of explains why we request provisional numbers, even for these small meteorites. It just seems prudent. And when one of them ends up being an Acapulcoite, it gives ample justification. It was serendipity that we crossed paths in the Mojave Desert on that weekend in September 2002. And the Utas were very obliging to let me image their recent finds. So I am very appreciative to them for having given me the opportunity to record, what is now 3 years later, a not-so-minor event in California meteorite-recovery. Jason, along with his dad, have gone on to find many more California meteorites. And Peter deserves some credit for getting his son involved in meteorite-recovery at such an early age. Jason and Peter should be proud of their accomplishments. Bob V. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] WEBSITE UPDATE AND SALE
Its still slow going getting sales up and running here after moving to New Zealand but at least I have a magnet now (I had to buy an old computer hard drive and ripped it apart looking for the magnet). Maybe next month I might even get a saw. And after many months I have also finally got my website functional again. And while it still needs editing and a few other things I do have some NWAs listed for sale on it now (101 to be exact). See my website at http://www.meteoriteshop.com/ For this weekend take a 15% discount from anything of interest. Paypal best for payment Sincerely DEAN BESSEY 15% off OFFER DONT APPLY TO EBAY OF COURSE __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Still glowing---32 Nevada finds this week!
List, I had a meteorite talk to give this past Wednesday about the remarkable new meteorite finds in Nevada, and I wanted to be able to say we've already found X more this week, so Monday I took a newbie out and we found eleven in about 5 hours. That felt so good we went back out today and found 21 more! This is not a new find, but proof that it's always worth going back to the old ones one more time. The science is even more cool. I have coordinates for 23 previous finds. Plotted together with ours, these form a tight strewn field about 0.8 miles long and 0.4 miles wide. The tight scatter suggests a low final explosion, and as would then be predicted, most of the fragments have sharply angular faces and no secondary fusion crust. A small percentage of the pieces have remnants of the primary crust. It is a squeeeky clean story, and I'll write it up in detail when and if the previous finders share any additional info there might be. As an interesting aside, I was all focused on fusion crusts and sensuous rounded shoulders and was finding nothing. My neophyte buddy was checking every pebble with a magnet, and predictably, he found the first two. I started using the magnet more liberally and quickly caught up. Before long, both of us had our eye tuned to the beautiful mahogany browns (and sharp angularity!) and then started really making progress. This story is going to raise another interesting issue. The 8 pieces that have been classified from this tiny scatter have gotten L6, H4, H5, and H6 designations. How much variability can you get from a single fall (when working with 10 gm fragments)? This little patch is not likely composed of multiple falls. Has this matter been addressed before? Still glowing, Norm (http://tektitesource.com) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Still glowing---32 Nevada finds this week!
warning, or some persons says you have find some Pultusk in the site Matteo --- Norm Lehrman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: List, I had a meteorite talk to give this past Wednesday about the remarkable new meteorite finds in Nevada, and I wanted to be able to say we've already found X more this week, so Monday I took a newbie out and we found eleven in about 5 hours. That felt so good we went back out today and found 21 more! This is not a new find, but proof that it's always worth going back to the old ones one more time. The science is even more cool. I have coordinates for 23 previous finds. Plotted together with ours, these form a tight strewn field about 0.8 miles long and 0.4 miles wide. The tight scatter suggests a low final explosion, and as would then be predicted, most of the fragments have sharply angular faces and no secondary fusion crust. A small percentage of the pieces have remnants of the primary crust. It is a squeeeky clean story, and I'll write it up in detail when and if the previous finders share any additional info there might be. As an interesting aside, I was all focused on fusion crusts and sensuous rounded shoulders and was finding nothing. My neophyte buddy was checking every pebble with a magnet, and predictably, he found the first two. I started using the magnet more liberally and quickly caught up. Before long, both of us had our eye tuned to the beautiful mahogany browns (and sharp angularity!) and then started really making progress. This story is going to raise another interesting issue. The 8 pieces that have been classified from this tiny scatter have gotten L6, H4, H5, and H6 designations. How much variability can you get from a single fall (when working with 10 gm fragments)? This little patch is not likely composed of multiple falls. Has this matter been addressed before? Still glowing, Norm (http://tektitesource.com) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Messenger: chiamate gratuite in tutto il mondo http://it.messenger.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Still glowing---32 Nevada finds this week!
Hi Norm, Congratulations on your finds! I can't speculate more about the different classifications without knowing more about the find location. However, if it's on a dry lake, then I would not be at all surprised by the variety of classifications because you could easily be talking about multiple falls. --Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Norm Lehrman Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 9:45 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Still glowing---32 Nevada finds this week! List, I had a meteorite talk to give this past Wednesday about the remarkable new meteorite finds in Nevada, and I wanted to be able to say we've already found X more this week, so Monday I took a newbie out and we found eleven in about 5 hours. That felt so good we went back out today and found 21 more! This is not a new find, but proof that it's always worth going back to the old ones one more time. The science is even more cool. I have coordinates for 23 previous finds. Plotted together with ours, these form a tight strewn field about 0.8 miles long and 0.4 miles wide. The tight scatter suggests a low final explosion, and as would then be predicted, most of the fragments have sharply angular faces and no secondary fusion crust. A small percentage of the pieces have remnants of the primary crust. It is a squeeeky clean story, and I'll write it up in detail when and if the previous finders share any additional info there might be. As an interesting aside, I was all focused on fusion crusts and sensuous rounded shoulders and was finding nothing. My neophyte buddy was checking every pebble with a magnet, and predictably, he found the first two. I started using the magnet more liberally and quickly caught up. Before long, both of us had our eye tuned to the beautiful mahogany browns (and sharp angularity!) and then started really making progress. This story is going to raise another interesting issue. The 8 pieces that have been classified from this tiny scatter have gotten L6, H4, H5, and H6 designations. How much variability can you get from a single fall (when working with 10 gm fragments)? This little patch is not likely composed of multiple falls. Has this matter been addressed before? Still glowing, Norm (http://tektitesource.com) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
