Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-centric commercial

2006-01-03 Thread Larry Lebofsky
Darren:

I saw the ad (only once) seveal weeks ago). If anyone can get this recorded, 
it would be greatly appreciated as I use such things for my class.

Larry

PS At least it wasn't vaporized on impact!

Quoting Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I just saw a commercial for trash bags (Glad?) tonight.  It showed a news
 reporter warning about a
 coming meteor shower, then cuts away to bunches of large meteroids being
 captured by a giant trash
 bag in orbit.  Cuts away to more talk of the trash bags.  Then cuts to a
 woman with a trash bag
 seeing a sizeable (around large watermellon size) meteorite sticking out of
 the windsheild of her
 car.  Then cuts to her at the trash cans stuffing that meteorite into a trash
 bag to throw away.
 
 I'm going to have nightmares about that last part.
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RE: [meteorite-list] Cleaning Scale off Stonys

2006-01-03 Thread Kevin Forbes


Hi Pete and list, interesting read this one, just an untried thought after 
years of cleaning ancient coins now and then, the caliche is a carbonate, I 
am assuming, it should dissolve rapidly in HCl or Hydrochloric acid, dilute 
to slow it. Also, I had success on certain coins removing bad stuff by 
heating and quenching in water, SSS and it flaked off.

Cheers, Kevin.


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Hello, List,

...so quiet in here...everyone still hung-over, eh?

A while ago I posted a request for any suggestions to make getting scale 
off of stone meteorites any easier, without a response.


I tried a few things myself and I'll pass on the results for anyone who is 
interested:


De-scalers like CLR or Limeaway are messy, smelly and potentially 
dangerous, even in a diluted form down to 25% with distilled water - and it 
changed the appearance of the surface somewhat.


A furnace humidifier scale-be-gone solution was the same disappointment.


Hydrogen Peroxide, however, was a definite help, and at the household 3%, 
it's relatively safe.


I submerged the intended stone in the peroxide for about an hour, and while 
keeping it wet I started cleaning.
It is still a meticulous task - I still needed to use the dental picks, but 
the scale comes off a lot easier and in bigger chips, and doesn't appear to 
harm the meteorite.


I soak the stones in alcohol when I'm done to displace the water.

I'll try 10% later, and if there's an marked advange I'll post the 
results...unless someone else tries it first...


I suggest you wear disposable gloves, though, as the stuff will bleach your 
fingertips.


Any input or further suggestions would be appreciated.

Cheers,
Pete


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Re: [meteorite-list] Pasamonte stone!

2006-01-03 Thread bernd . pauli
A stoked Mike Farmer wrote:

Well, after 9 years of dealing and collecting meteorites, I have finally 
succeeded
in getting a complete Pasamonte stone! I recently bought a stone from a 
collector,
with British Museum label, 39 grams, Nininger #197V British Museum # 1959-756.

http://www.meteoriteguy.com/collection/pasamonte.htm

Check it out and tell me what you think.

Gee, that's  *g r e a t* ... like looking at the Holy Grail of meteorites!

 I am stoked about adding this rare little puppy to my new collection. 

One can really see live and on-line how excited Michael F. must have
been because in his write-up you can read that this stone have serious
provenance. Well, who wouldn't be overcome with such joy if we were him!

Pasamonte is a polymict, very friable, brecciated, noncumulate eucrite
and resembles my little Stannern piece that I purchased from Martin
Horejsi some time ago: black, glossy, frothy fusion crust, a shining white
interior, fragile and *beautiful*. Only difference: Stannern is monomict.

Pasamonte is unique in many different respects: another unique feature
was its glowing, twisted and distorted trail of ionized atmosperic gases
similar to the lingering trail of the Tagish Lake carbonaceous chondrite.

Mike, sincere congrats on the acquisition of this drool-worthy beauty!

Bernd

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RE: [meteorite-list] Paint Could Alter Asteroids Course

2006-01-03 Thread Kevin Forbes
The mind half boggles, how about the effect of volatiles evaporating from 
the paint? e.g. land a lump of material that begins to vapourise when 
illuminated by the Sun. Paint and thinners, the vapour from the material 
will at first possibly provide more thrust than the variation between light 
dark bits...
I also am thinking, if the material was of a high gloss, it would work 
better than , say, a powdery coating, such as talcum powder.

Kevin, VK3UKF.




Paint could alter asteroids course
The Scotsman (United Kingdom)
December 31, 2005

Scientists have spoken of their plans for a project to stop asteroids
hitting the earth.

Researchers from Glasgow University are looking into the possibility of
spraying lumps of rock and ice with paint to knock them off course.

Spraying the asteroids using a robot droid in space would heat or cool
the surface using the sun's rays, hopefully diverting them from hitting
the planet.

It is thought this method would be much more effective than that
fictionally used by film star Bruce Willis in the blockbuster
Armageddon, where he and a team drilled a nuclear bomb into the core of
a massive rock.

Dr Gianmarco Radice, who is leading the research, told the Daily Record
newspaper: With an asteroid you are faced with the danger posed by one
piece of rock.

Blow it to pieces and you could be faced with the even bigger problem
of many more smaller pieces of rock hurtling towards the earth.

Ours would be an unmanned mission. There would be no need for Bruce
Willis.

The £300,000 three-year study into asteroids at the university is being
backed by the Government's Engineering and Physical Sciences Research
Council.

The main threat is currently a 390-metre wide asteroid called Apophis,
which Nasa believes could hit earth on April 13, 2036.
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[meteorite-list] Field Museum of Natural History Meteorite Collection

2006-01-03 Thread Michael Fowler

Hi List,

I have an urge to visit the Field Museum meteorite collection.  This  
happens to me periodically, and since I live in the Chicago area,  
it's no big deal.


However, it would be much more fun to do it with a kindred spirit.   
I'm extending an invitation to any list members from near or far  
wanting to visit the museum to link up.


My own schedule is very flexible this time of year.  Any one  
interested, let me know, on or off list.


Thanks,

Mike Fowler
Chicago
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773-991-0590
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-centric commercial

2006-01-03 Thread Gerald Flaherty

GET HER NAME
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To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 12:01 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-centric commercial


I just saw a commercial for trash bags (Glad?) tonight.  It showed a news 
reporter warning about a
coming meteor shower, then cuts away to bunches of large meteroids being 
captured by a giant trash
bag in orbit.  Cuts away to more talk of the trash bags.  Then cuts to a 
woman with a trash bag
seeing a sizeable (around large watermellon size) meteorite sticking out of 
the windsheild of her
car.  Then cuts to her at the trash cans stuffing that meteorite into a 
trash bag to throw away.


I'm going to have nightmares about that last part.
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-centric commercial

2006-01-03 Thread tett

List,

Here is a link to the Toyota commercial.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/34669/meteor/

Cheers,

tett
Owen Sound, Ontario


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Darren:

I saw the ad (only once) seveal weeks ago). If anyone can get this 
recorded,

it would be greatly appreciated as I use such things for my class.

Larry

PS At least it wasn't vaporized on impact!

Quoting Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


I just saw a commercial for trash bags (Glad?) tonight.  It showed a news
reporter warning about a
coming meteor shower, then cuts away to bunches of large meteroids being
captured by a giant trash
bag in orbit.  Cuts away to more talk of the trash bags.  Then cuts to a
woman with a trash bag
seeing a sizeable (around large watermellon size) meteorite sticking out 
of

the windsheild of her
car.  Then cuts to her at the trash cans stuffing that meteorite into a 
trash

bag to throw away.

I'm going to have nightmares about that last part.
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University of Arizonayou feed him for a lifetime.
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[meteorite-list] Ad - lots of eBay auctions closing

2006-01-03 Thread star-bits
I have a bunch of eBay auctions closing over the next few hours.   Check them 
out at 

 http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=katy2kary

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[meteorite-list] Biz bag meteorites

2006-01-03 Thread joseph_town
Advertising people are reading the list. A new trend maybe. It would be a good 
thing if only they could get the most simple things about meteorites right. 
Lets see, it's just humor, not misleading, everybody but me knows the facts. 
Put it in the biz bag.

Bill


 -- Original message --
From: tett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List,
 
 Here is a link to the Toyota commercial.
 
 http://www.metacafe.com/watch/34669/meteor/
 
 Cheers,
 
 tett
 Owen Sound, Ontario
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry Lebofsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 6:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-centric commercial
 
 
  Darren:
 
  I saw the ad (only once) seveal weeks ago). If anyone can get this 
  recorded,
  it would be greatly appreciated as I use such things for my class.
 
  Larry
 
  PS At least it wasn't vaporized on impact!
 
  Quoting Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  I just saw a commercial for trash bags (Glad?) tonight.  It showed a news
  reporter warning about a
  coming meteor shower, then cuts away to bunches of large meteroids being
  captured by a giant trash
  bag in orbit.  Cuts away to more talk of the trash bags.  Then cuts to a
  woman with a trash bag
  seeing a sizeable (around large watermellon size) meteorite sticking out 
  of
  the windsheild of her
  car.  Then cuts to her at the trash cans stuffing that meteorite into a 
  trash
  bag to throw away.
 
  I'm going to have nightmares about that last part.
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  Lunar and Planetary Laboratory   you feed him for a day.
  1541 East University   If you teach a man to fish,
  University of Arizonayou feed him for a lifetime.
  Tucson, AZ 85721-0063 ~Chinese Proverb
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Re: [meteorite-list] Pasamonte stone! FILMS

2006-01-03 Thread Jeff Kuyken
Bernd wrote:

Pasamonte is unique in many different respects: another unique feature
was its glowing, twisted and distorted trail of ionized atmosperic gases
similar to the lingering trail of the Tagish Lake carbonaceous chondrite.

Reminds me of the Magadan, Russia meteor in July, 2000. There's a video of
it about halfway down my films page.

www.meteorites.com.au/films/

If anyone wants the meteor/truck commercial it is also availale here:

http://www.meteorites.com.au/films/desertmeteor.wmv.

Cheers,

Jeff


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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pasamonte stone!


A stoked Mike Farmer wrote:

Well, after 9 years of dealing and collecting meteorites, I have finally
succeeded
in getting a complete Pasamonte stone! I recently bought a stone from a
collector,
with British Museum label, 39 grams, Nininger #197V British Museum #
1959-756.

http://www.meteoriteguy.com/collection/pasamonte.htm

heck it out and tell me what you think.

Gee, that's  *g r e a t* ... like looking at the Holy Grail of meteorites!

 I am stoked about adding this rare little puppy to my new collection. 

One can really see live and on-line how excited Michael F. must have
been because in his write-up you can read that this stone have serious
provenance. Well, who wouldn't be overcome with such joy if we were him!

Pasamonte is a polymict, very friable, brecciated, noncumulate eucrite
and resembles my little Stannern piece that I purchased from Martin
Horejsi some time ago: black, glossy, frothy fusion crust, a shining white
interior, fragile and *beautiful*. Only difference: Stannern is monomict.

Pasamonte is unique in many different respects: another unique feature
was its glowing, twisted and distorted trail of ionized atmosperic gases
similar to the lingering trail of the Tagish Lake carbonaceous chondrite.

Mike, sincere congrats on the acquisition of this drool-worthy beauty!

Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite

2006-01-03 Thread Michael Farmer

Um, no. It is Government property.
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Subject: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite



Hi list.I am just wondering if any of the old woman meteorite has ever
been offered up to collecters?


 steve arnold, chicago

Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 



Illinois Meteorites,Ltd!


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Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite

2006-01-03 Thread Jim Strope

Steve:

Offers can be sent to:

Desert Discovery Center 
831 Main Street

Barstow, CA  92311

http://209.238.151.128/images/ebay/oldwomanmeteorite.jpg

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Hi list.I am just wondering if any of the old woman meteorite has ever
been offered up to collecters?


 steve arnold, chicago

Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 



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[meteorite-list] I have lost ALL emails.

2006-01-03 Thread Michael Farmer
Something just happend to my computer, so I restarted it, and when my 
Outlook came back up, ALL inbox emails were just lost! Anyone have any 
ideas? This is a disaster for me.
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Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite

2006-01-03 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List,

I have a confirmed piece of the Old Woman meteorite. It was found within 2
kilometers of the original Old Woman at a lower elevation prone to moisture.
Even though my piece has been converted to mainly shale with only a few
specks of elemental iron showing, Dr. Ted Bunch was able to chemically match
the two and there are not too many Coarse Octahedrites with a massive 1
centimeter bandwidth running around. Here are some links if you want to
check it out. I have it in my safe deposit box so I cannot check the weight
after a piece was submitted for study. I believe it still weighs about 130
grams or so.

Here are the links:
http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.jpg
http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman-a.jpg
http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.-b.jpg


Take Care,

Adam


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Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 3:56 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite


 Hi list.I am just wondering if any of the old woman meteorite has ever
 been offered up to collecters?


   steve arnold, chicago

 Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120


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Fw: [meteorite-list] I have lost ALL emails.

2006-01-03 Thread Dave Carothers
Mike,

On the off chance that you inadvertantly corrupted the Outlook .pst file,
You can also try this:  Run the Inbox Repair Tool, SCANPST.exe, to recover
the file. On Win2K and WinNT systems, the executable is located in
C:\Program Files\Common Files\System\Mapi\1033\NT. You can also find it on
the Office 2000 CD-ROM in Drive:\Pfiles\Common\System\Mapi\1033\NT. In
WinXP, the file is located in C:\Program Files\Common
Files\System\Mapi\1033. For additional information on the Inbox Repair Tool,
see Microsoft Knowledge Base article

Cheers,

Dave

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  ideas? This is a disaster for me.
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Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite

2006-01-03 Thread Adam Hupe
Somebody asked the following question off-list. I will attempt to answer it:

Question:
I am just  wondering how a totally Iron body can be converted to shale just
two Kilometers  from the original find.  No offense, but isn't shale pretty
much  silicon?

Waiting to be set straight.

Answer:
It is converted to iron shale when it becomes weathered or terrestrialized
(oxidized). This is a well-known
occurrence as far as iron meteorites go. Canyon Diablo can be found as both
iron shale and in elemental iron form depending on the degree of weathering.

Kind Regards,

Adam



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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite


 Dear List,

 I have a confirmed piece of the Old Woman meteorite. It was found within 2
 kilometers of the original Old Woman at a lower elevation prone to
moisture.
 Even though my piece has been converted to mainly shale with only a few
 specks of elemental iron showing, Dr. Ted Bunch was able to chemically
match
 the two and there are not too many Coarse Octahedrites with a massive 1
 centimeter bandwidth running around. Here are some links if you want to
 check it out. I have it in my safe deposit box so I cannot check the
weight
 after a piece was submitted for study. I believe it still weighs about 130
 grams or so.

 Here are the links:
 http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.jpg
 http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman-a.jpg
 http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.-b.jpg


 Take Care,

 Adam


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 Subject: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite


  Hi list.I am just wondering if any of the old woman meteorite has ever
  been offered up to collecters?
 
 
steve arnold, chicago
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite

2006-01-03 Thread dfreeman

Dear Adam, List;
I have repeatedly found lots of cretaceous shale balls that have 
oxidized so much that a good magnet does nothing to them.  Even the 
metal detector doesn't recognize them.but, they are in odd 
locations, and seem to have been replaced by manganese, or manganese 
staining. Tim Heinz' site on meteorwrongs has a picture or two.  I still 
remain puzzled but have been too cheap to send them off for an irridium 
test.

Best,
Dave Freeman

Adam Hupe wrote:


Somebody asked the following question off-list. I will attempt to answer it:

Question:
I am just  wondering how a totally Iron body can be converted to shale just
two Kilometers  from the original find.  No offense, but isn't shale pretty
much  silicon?

Waiting to be set straight.

Answer:
It is converted to iron shale when it becomes weathered or terrestrialized
(oxidized). This is a well-known
occurrence as far as iron meteorites go. Canyon Diablo can be found as both
iron shale and in elemental iron form depending on the degree of weathering.

Kind Regards,

Adam



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From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite


 


Dear List,

I have a confirmed piece of the Old Woman meteorite. It was found within 2
kilometers of the original Old Woman at a lower elevation prone to
   


moisture.
 


Even though my piece has been converted to mainly shale with only a few
specks of elemental iron showing, Dr. Ted Bunch was able to chemically
   


match
 


the two and there are not too many Coarse Octahedrites with a massive 1
centimeter bandwidth running around. Here are some links if you want to
check it out. I have it in my safe deposit box so I cannot check the
   


weight
 


after a piece was submitted for study. I believe it still weighs about 130
grams or so.

Here are the links:
http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.jpg
http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman-a.jpg
http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.-b.jpg


Take Care,

Adam


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To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 3:56 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite


   


Hi list.I am just wondering if any of the old woman meteorite has ever
been offered up to collecters?


 steve arnold, chicago

Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120


Illinois Meteorites,Ltd!


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Re: [meteorite-list] Pasamonte stone! FILMS

2006-01-03 Thread Walter Branch

Hi Jeff and List,

Jeff, thanks very much for making these movies available for list (and non 
list) members.  Your video archives and Mark's text archives complement each 
other very nicely.


I witnessed my first fireball a few days ago, on 12/22/05.  I left work 
early that day because I was sick.  I was driving home about 4:00 p.m. It 
was very sunny with only a few clouds.  I happend to be approaching a bridge 
over a river and about a mile of marshland and I saw it traveling from 
roughly east to west, at a very steep angle.  It was breaking up and 
disentegrating and looked a lot like the peekskill videos on Jeff's site. 
This was in broad daylight!  It was amazing.  After years of night-time 
astronomical observations, during which I have seen many sporadic 
meteorites, this was amazing.  The illusion of closeness was very real.  It 
seemed as though I could have driven over the bridge and into the marsh 
(with subsequent explanations to my wife) and there a meteorite would be - 
right in the middle of the marsh!


I will never forget it.  I hope to see one again.

-Walter Branch 



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[meteorite-list] Happy New Year - Server being upgraded. - MeteoriteTimes Soon

2006-01-03 Thread Paul Harris

Happy New Year Everyone !!

The server for The Meteorite Exchange, Inc. (www.meteorite.com) is being 
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We are still working on MeteoriteTimes Magazine. Should be up in a couple 
of days as everyone was busy over the Holidays.


Best wishes for the New Year!

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Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite

2006-01-03 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
For after re-sale on ebay?

Matteo

--- Steve Arnold, Chicago!!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: 

 Hi list.I am just wondering if any of the old woman
 meteorite has ever
 been offered up to collecters?
 
 
   steve
 arnold, chicago
 
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[meteorite-list] Old Woman Meteorite

2006-01-03 Thread CalSouth1
Dear List,

I could be wrong, and invite  opposing views, yet, a silicon result from an 
Iron body would be stretching the  subject.

Because of the fight between the discoverer's and the U.S.  Government, over 
the proprietorship the only owner now is the U. S. Government  and it will not 
be parceling out pieces for salenor will any silicon based  minerals be 
accepted as part of the main mass.

Just my humble and  somewhat ignorant opinion.

John Harper - Barstow, CA.  

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Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite

2006-01-03 Thread MexicoDoug

Adam and the anonymous  commentator:   Actually, it is a very good scientific 
question.   The person who asked was obviously thinking about sedimentary 
layers in the  mountains or their favorite geology text, or maybe the discovery 
 
channel.

I'd rephrase the answer to be:
Shale in geology is the  fragmentary-type sedimentary layer that splits in a 
planar manner usually has  high silicate content from the clays it formed 
originally from (with the help of  sea creatures).  Clays, very frequently 
absorb 
water in sheet like  macromolecules with high silicates so you can see where 
the planar shale  splitting derives from...You can have a sedimentary shale 
high in Calcium  (calcium carbonate) from skeletons and shells typically in 
ancient water sites.  Coals are also shales (remember the strip miners - an 
illusion to this planar  like splitting), when the same types of materials get 
carbonaceous.

In  the case of the iron meteorite, or for that matter, an old buried Colt 45 
or  horseshoe, the iron rusts in a manner that is layered, and splits off in 
a  planar mannerVoila - it can also be called shale for this planar 
splitting  characteristic.  Just like an onion rind, not to be confused with 
the 
onion  rind model of asteroids!

Saludos, Doug
(Hoping to bring my iron pick  to a far far away eucrite shale sometime and 
look for nice diogenite  crystals!)



In a message dated 1/3/2006 10:58:39 P.M. Eastern  Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Somebody asked the  following question off-list. I will attempt to answer it:

Question:
I  am just  wondering how a totally Iron body can be converted to shale  just
two Kilometers  from the original find.  No offense, but isn't  shale pretty
much  silicon?

Waiting to be set  straight.

Answer:
It is converted to iron shale when it becomes  weathered or terrestrialized
(oxidized). This is a well-known
occurrence  as far as iron meteorites go. Canyon Diablo can be found as both
iron shale  and in elemental iron form depending on the degree of weathering.

Kind  Regards,

Adam



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From: Adam  Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006  6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite


  Dear List,

 I have a confirmed piece of the Old Woman meteorite.  It was found within 2
 kilometers of the original Old Woman at a lower  elevation prone to
moisture.
 Even though my piece has been converted  to mainly shale with only a few
 specks of elemental iron showing, Dr.  Ted Bunch was able to chemically
match
 the two and there are not too  many Coarse Octahedrites with a massive 1
 centimeter bandwidth running  around. Here are some links if you want to
 check it out. I have it in my  safe deposit box so I cannot check the
weight
 after a piece was  submitted for study. I believe it still weighs about 130
 grams or  so.

 Here are the links:
  http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.jpg
  http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman-a.jpg
  http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.-b.jpg


 Take  Care,

 Adam


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 Sent: Tuesday, January 03,  2006 3:56 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] old woman  meteorite


  Hi list.I am just wondering if any of the  old woman meteorite has ever
  been offered up to collecters?
  
 
  steve arnold, chicago
 
  Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL,  60120
 
 
  Illinois Meteorites,Ltd!
  
 
  website url  http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
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