[meteorite-list] watch out - Ad police about!!
Hello, Right, I know this is OT, but it DID impact on me and I get such excellent info from the list that I have decided to turn this problem over to you all - you can delete (I would if I were you!) but if you have been harangued then maybe you too might need to realise you are not alone. So ..hey hey... watch out for the Ad police, but he only picks on the small fry and bullies them - so you big guys who are professional, offer good stuff and good prices are exempt... but beware the wrath of the ever-right . .Ops, nearly gave his name away! Sorry to be so petty but this individual is a bully and to be honest, from the feedback I am getting offlist, it seems that I am not the only one who has been judged, juried and executed by this magnificant individual. He threatened to turn this issue over to the list so now here is the Big Man s chance. Sorry to be rather off topic, but I left the list for a good reason (attitudes c.) a year ago, and guess what, within a week one of these kindly souls tried to stick the boot in. How about a competition to guess who it is? Prize? well, the satisfaction of outting a mean-spirited individual and the knowledge that we have a calmer, more respectful and peaceful list in future - so we can read our mails or digests and enjoy!!! Yep, I'm peeved, but strangely happy! Best! dave (still) IMCA #0092 BTW - if any of your know who this person is, can they please explain to him what the word pretentious means - he used it so incorrectly it was humerous I would describe his behaviour as egregious __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] watch out - Ad police about!!
Dave writes: BTW - if any of your know who this person is, can they please explain to him what the word pretentious means - he used it so incorrectly it was humerous I would describe his behaviour as egregious Hola Dave, If the bully is anything like Goliath, Dave, slingshots are a proven solution when you've got a bone to pick, even if it's a funny bone... :-) Saludos __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Desert Hunting video realised now
Please, if did not watch yet, enjoy it. http://www.rockssearch.com/Movie_Desert_Hunters_2005.html John B. has fine helped with episodes names. Thanks, Ivan -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - April 5, 2006
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[meteorite-list] Apollo 15 and Genesis Rock
Hello Everyone, Interesting audio/video and written transcript of Apollo 15 astronauts Jim Irwin and Dave Scott discovering the Genesis rock. http://www.history.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/a15.spur.html -Walter Branch __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] X-Rays Reveal 250, 000 Tons of Water Released by Deep Impact
ROYAL ASTRONOMICAL SOCIETY PRESS INFORMATION NOTE Issued by RAS Communications Officers: Peter Bond Tel: +44 (0)1483-268672 Fax: +44 (0)1483-274047 AND Anita Heward Tel: +44 (0)1483-420904 National Astronomy Meeting Press Room (4 - 7 April only): Tel: +44 (0)116-229-7474 or 229-7475 or 252-3312 or 252-3531 Fax: +44 (0)116-252-3531 RAS Web site: http://www.ras.org.uk/ RAS National Astronomy Meeting web site: http://www.nam2006.le.ac.uk/index.shtml CONTACT DETAILS ARE LISTED AT THE END OF THIS RELEASE. EMBARGOED FOR 00:01 BST, TUESDAY 4 APRIL 2006 (23:01 GMT ON MONDAY 3 APRIL) Ref.: PN 06/13 (NAM 6) X-RAYS REVEAL 250,000 TONNES OF WATER RELEASED BY DEEP IMPACT Over the weekend of 9-10 July 2005 a team of UK and US scientists, led by Dr. Dick Willingale of the University of Leicester, used NASA's Swift satellite to observe the collision of NASA's Deep Impact spacecraft with comet Tempel 1. Reporting today (Tuesday) at the UK 2006 National Astronomy Meeting in Leicester, Dr. Willingale revealed that the Swift observations show that the comet grew brighter and brighter in X-ray light after the impact, with the X-ray outburst lasting a total of 12 days. The Swift observations reveal that far more water was liberated and over a longer period than previously claimed, said Dick Willingale. Swift spends most of its time studying objects in the distant Universe, but its agility allows it to observe many objects per orbit. Dr. Willingale used Swift to monitor the X-ray emission from comet Tempel 1 before and after the collision with the Deep Impact probe. The X-rays provide a direct measurement of how much material was kicked up after the impact. This is because the X-rays were created by the newly liberated water as it was lifted into the comet's thin atmosphere and illuminated by the high-energy solar wind from the Sun. The more material liberated, the more X-rays are produced, explained Dr. Paul O'Brien, also from the University of Leicester. The X-ray power output depends on both the water production rate from the comet and the flux of subatomic particles streaming out of the Sun as the solar wind. Using data from the ACE satellite, which constantly monitors the solar wind, the Swift team managed to calculate the solar wind flux at the comet during the X-ray outburst. This enabled them to disentangle the two components responsible for the X-ray emission. Tempel 1 is usually a rather dim, weak comet with a water production rate of 16,000 tonnes per day. However, after the Deep Impact probe hit the comet this rate increased to 40,000 tonnes per day over the period 5-10 days after impact. Over the duration of the outburst, the total mass of water released by the impact was 250,000 tonnes. One objective of the Deep Impact mission was to determine what causes cometary outbursts. A simple theory suggests that such outbursts are caused by the impact of meteorites on the comet nucleus. If this is the case, Deep Impact should have initiated an outburst. Although the impact was observed across the electromagnetic spectrum, most of what was seen was directly attributable to the impact explosion. After 5 days, optical observations showed that the comet was indistinguishable from its state prior to the collision. This was in stark contrast to the X-ray observations. The analysis of the X-ray behaviour by the Swift team indicates that the collision produced an extended X-ray outburst largely because the amount of water produced by the comet had increased. A collision such as Deep Impact can cause an outburst, but apparently something rather different from the norm can also happen, said Dr. Willingale. Most of the water seen in X-rays came out slowly, possibly in the form of ice-covered dust grains. CONTACTS Dr. Dick Willingale University of Leicester Tel: +44 (0)116-252-3356 Dr. Paul O'Brien University of Leicester Tel: +44 (0)116-252-5203 From 4 to 7 April, Dr. Willingale and Dr. O'Brien can be contacted via the NAM press office (see above) IMAGES Images and graphs are available on the web at: http://www.star.le.ac.uk/~rw/deepimpact/ NASA Deep Impact web site: http://deepimpact.jpl.nasa.gov/home/index.html NOTES FOR EDITORS UK Involvement The UK role in Swift has been to provide core elements of the narrow field instruments (the X-ray telescope and the UV/Optical telescope), utilising mature technology already developed for the ESA XMM-Newton mission, and the JeT-X instrument. University of Leicester Lead role in the X-ray telescope design, focal plane camera assembly and X-ray design (using past experience from JET-X and XMM-Newton). The UK SWIFT Science Data Centre at Leicester will provide an archive of all SWIFT data, with open access for the wider UK astronomical community. Mullard Space Science Laboratory-UCL The major part of the UV/Optical telescope was constructed at MSSL using designs and expertise from the XMM-Newton Optical Monitor. The Deep Impact mission
[meteorite-list] NWA-482 / NO RESERVE / BONHAMS NATURAL HISTORY SALE / NEXT TUESDAY
Title: NWA-482 / NO RESERVE / BONHAMS NATURAL HISTORY SALE / NEXT TUESDAY A two-gram specimen of NWA482 with no reserve http://www.macovich.com/catalog/2122.html A beautiful slice of Marjalahti selling for as little as $23/g http://www.macovich.com/catalog/2129.html And with a nod to my favorite purveyor of meteorite caps (and frequently, meteorites), Edwin Its Willamette, Dammit! Thompson http://www.macovich.com/catalog/2131.html THE SKY IS FALLING The Slice of the Willamette Meteorite Formerly Adjacent to the Cut Surface On Display at the American Museum of Natural History to Hit the Auction Block at Bonhams in New York City on April 11th www.macovich.com Www.bonhams.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Taking Offers on This Piece...
And what of the world's thief? It doesn't matter - I have no authority. I just wonder how we can continuously and successfully recover material from certain regions without ending up in jail? Does this ever happen? This same market is often coextensive with the artifact looting that is rampant in South America and and Africa North of the Sahara. Many dealers are selling looted artifacts found near strewn field (or vice-versa - meteorites at open air Mousterian, Acheulian, Aterian, and Epipaleolithicsites). I'm myself guilty of buying artifacts from meteorite dealers, but I recognize that the artifact market only intersectsat fewinstances with the meteoritetrade. Mark Rexburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tell me who made you the world's cop.From: Thaddeus Besedin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: michael cottingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Taking Offers on This Piece...Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 21:37:21 -0700 (PDT)How can it possibly be legal to loot strewnfields in developing countries? There aremichael cottingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:From: michael cottingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 11:34 PMTo: 'michael cottingham'Subject: AD: Taking Offers on This Piece...Hello,I am offering this World Class Slice up for offers. Here's a chance forsomeone to get a good deal!http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6614919557Please leave your offers through this Auction.Thanks Best WishesMichael Cottingham__Meteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list-New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates.__Meteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list_Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1/min.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] watch out - Ad police about!!
Hi Dave and List, I have no idea who you are talking about but whoever it was posted to you off-list. Why don't we keep this well beaten subject off of the List as it has already been hashed out. I agree with Art's rule about one Ad post per week and according to a recent poll taken by a List member and made public, the vast majority of other members agree with this rule as well. This is a self policing forum so if somebody breaks the rules, there will always be others who will point it out. If this person was not kind to you, then ignore them but to have a witch hunt on the List is unacceptable. How does this promote meteorites? It was not me who sent the email to Dave. If I have a problem, I am not afraid to address it publicly and throw names around if needed. On the other hand, if I am in error, I will be the first to admit it. Take Care, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad - New Ungrouped Chondrite -Exceptional Auctions Ending!
Dear List Members, I have several exceptional auctions ending in a few hours. There are some outstanding specimens running this week, most started at just 99 cents so you may want to take the time to check them out! To see all of the auctions click on this link: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZraremeteorites Here are some of this week's highlights: In relative terms, a very large fragment of New Orleans which is usually only offered in milligram sized crumbs: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6617896533 Very last NWA 482 pendant with 14K Gold mounting: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6617899092 Beautiful 98% crusted NWA 869 piece currently priced at $1.04 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6617899724 NWA 989 CV3 with giant CAI: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6617901087 Check out the huge clast in this Howardite: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6617903944 Very LAST piece of an extraordinary looking chondrite: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6617908179 A certified piece of Chassignite worth Hundreds: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6617912477 A HUGE piece of the now famous NWA 2999 Angrite, A case for Mercury stone started at just 99 cents currently bid up to a fraction of what it is worth. This is quickly becoming one of the most studied stones in the world. I have a very limited amount of this material left for understandable reasons and will never start a large specimen like this out at just 99 cents again, I can't afford to! This is a very well documented meteorite with an outstanding pedigree: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6617916528 Check out these great Sikhote Alins: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6617925128 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6617925578 Introducing NWA 3157, a new Ungrouped and Unpaired Type 3 Chondrite with a TAW of less than 20 grams: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6619437725 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6619439360 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6619439020 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6619438576 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6619438158 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6619437369 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6619437032 And ... TOO many other excellent pieces running this week to list, all still bargain priced, can be found at this link: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZraremeteorites Thank you for looking and if you are bidding, good luck. Take Care, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Repost, no replies. Meteorite living database
Hello all, I am reposting this as there were no replies at all. Was it such a bad idea?? Hi list, I would like to propose the development online, with all your help and input, A living upadatedable database for our collections and items for sale. The database would of couse have to have live ONLINE on someones server that has 24/7 online access. I suggest that it be in a format that allows a personal copy for each meteorite collector to be run on their own machine. That the copy on each collectors machine maintain a valid database of their own collection,. It should allow for media files of specimens to be displayed., BMP, JPG, MPEG, whatever. And that their database, occassioanally, or at will, update the main database server. The intention of updating the database server is so that all other users databases are also updated with the latest information, which should include, New additions to personal collections, New additions to items for sale, New additions to the Met Bull, etc. I am somewhat fluent in Borland Delphi, but help is always appreciated. This may be above me in the world these days, I don't know, unless we try. I know that there are a lot of programmers out there, and lots of languages, maybe we can get something together? I think this would be a serious contribution towards the study, specimen location, and availability of specimens on the internet and indeed the world, once completed and operational. If the collector does not wish their items to be displayed to the world, the program should run in, PERSONAL MODE. (but that anyone running in personal mode be displayed to other users as such) I posess, a personal Borland Delphi license, which means that any software that I develop, must be totally free to users. (which has always been the case, see Ford Decoding, google) If I purchase a commercial license, I can sell it. About $ 1500 USD At the moment, everything is free. All your suggestions are welcome. A thought I had. :-) Cheers all, Kevin, VK3UKF. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Some Scientists Think Humans Descended from Martian Microbes
Nonsense, retorts Kirschvink. ... and some of the Martian meteorites get here within one year of a major impact on Mars. Ok I missed this one...which Martian meteorite got here within a year? Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Apollo 15 and Genesis Rock
On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 16:00:41 -0400, you wrote: Hello Everyone, Interesting audio/video and written transcript of Apollo 15 astronauts Jim Irwin and Dave Scott discovering the Genesis rock. http://www.history.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/a15.spur.html Reading that just makes me depressed that I can't collect there myself. :-( __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - April 3, 2006
On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 21:03:33 -0400, you wrote: Hey Dean, Nice fall! Congratulations! May assume an article in MAPS is in the making? What about classification? I don't care what the classification is, I'm not buying a slice if they show up on Ebay! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Desert Hunting video realised now
Thank you for sharing your incredible trip! I am amazed on your finds and how well you documented it all even though I do not understand most of it. Its a super video. Sill have to watch more of it tomorrow. So far I watched up to 2_2. Just incredible! with best regards, Moni From: Ivan Kutyrev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Desert Hunting video realised now Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 21:54:23 -0700 Please, if did not watch yet, enjoy it. http://www.rockssearch.com/Movie_Desert_Hunters_2005.html John B. has fine helped with episodes names. Thanks, Ivan -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Larger Specimens 99 cent Unclassified Material Ending
Dear List Members, I have a number of great eBay auctions ending later today, many still at just 99 cents. These include many rare, ordinary and unclassified material (both individual Cherry Picked stones and 10-kilo lots). These can be found under my seller name, NaturesVault. There are too many to list here so if you are in the market for an excellent deal on something a bit larger than my usual auctions, go to eBay and search for items by seller, NaturesVault. I will be loading a lot of new auctions tonight as well so keep checking out my items. Best regards and Thank You for bidding, Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA 3163 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
