Re: [meteorite-list] LUNAR THIN SECTIONS
Well, he's got it laid out nicely. - John - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 11:58 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] LUNAR THIN SECTIONS Hi, All, Fans of thin section photos may have already found this website, but if not, you should take a look at: http://www.union.edu/PUBLIC/GEODEPT/COURSES/petrology/moon_rocks/ A very large number of Lunar thin sections, nicely photographed by Kurt Hollocher of Union College in Schenectady, NY. Beautiful stuff. Sterling K. Webb __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Entry Burn [was Lunar Burn]
I agree with Chris. Bear in mind that the source of the luminous phenomena we see when we see a meteor, is not so much the meteoroid itself burning up: it's the atmosphere around it becoming incandescend. - Marco There are only a limited number of meteor spectra, so the colors aren't real well understood, but I'd be surprised if you saw the nickel emission over the atmospheric oxygen. The majority of slow, bright meteors are reported as green by many witnesses, but only a small fraction of those contain significant nickel. Chris - Dr Marco Langbroek Dutch Meteor Society (DMS) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] private website http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek DMS website http://www.dmsweb.org - __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] LUNAR THIN SECTIONS
Thanks Sterling. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 2:58 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] LUNAR THIN SECTIONS Hi, All, Fans of thin section photos may have already found this website, but if not, you should take a look at: http://www.union.edu/PUBLIC/GEODEPT/COURSES/petrology/moon_rocks/ A very large number of Lunar thin sections, nicely photographed by Kurt Hollocher of Union College in Schenectady, NY. Beautiful stuff. Sterling K. Webb __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Lean Toward Eight Planets
I love that word. I can't wait to try and get it into casual conversation. Cheeri Rob McC --- Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The most correct technical term would be the jawbreaker CRYOSILICATE object. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] COMET member in Denver Post
One of our own has been featured today in the Denver Post. Look in the Denver and the West section B page 2, or go to: http://www.denverpost.com/ranger/ci_4222465. Larry Johnson, a COMET member, is profiled by the Rocky Mountain Ranger, Rick Tosches. The interview evidently took place at the Lake George Gem and Mineral Show. That is why he was not at our Sunday meeting where we made plans for the upcoming Denver Gem and Mineral Show, September 13-17. We will have our meteorite auction on Friday night during the show at our regular spot, Fred Olson's warehouse. Anne Black is accepting items for the auction. Our Saturday night dinner for all meteorite folks will again be held at La Loma Restaurant. Hope to see you at the show and our events. Congrats Larry on the article. Dan Wray __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Entry Burn [was Lunar Burn]
Hi all - While one might think that the difference in entry spectra is simply a reflection of the neural function of the eye, based on my observational experience, I have to disagree. Both entries were bright, and there was a distinct difference in spectra. I think this could go the way of the cold meteorites discussion, but fortunately in this case the color capabilities of automatic videotaping systems will probably resolve the question in the near future. The one had a green cast to it, the other did not. At least that's how it looked to me. I suppose for the time being maybe its best to leave it at that. good hunting, Ed --- Marco Langbroek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Chris. Bear in mind that the source of the luminous phenomena we see when we see a meteor, is not so much the meteoroid itself burning up: it's the atmosphere around it becoming incandescend. - Marco There are only a limited number of meteor spectra, so the colors aren't real well understood, but I'd be surprised if you saw the nickel emission over the atmospheric oxygen. The majority of slow, bright meteors are reported as green by many witnesses, but only a small fraction of those contain significant nickel. Chris - Dr Marco Langbroek Dutch Meteor Society (DMS) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] private website http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek DMS website http://www.dmsweb.org - __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Size Counts concerning Pluto?
Hi Dirk, all - The problem is that there are a whole lot more plutos which are being discovered. A whole whole lot more. I wonder what the public's reaction was when Ceres was demoted back in the 1800's? It would make a good side bar for someone. good hunting, Ed --- drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List, It appears that the only reason for dropping poor Pluto from the list of planets is an American cultural bias in that SIZE COUNTS. Pluto, as do the rest of the planets, orbits the Sun in a somewhat regular manner as a planet; therefore leave its classification alone. Science may change the status of Pluto; but Pluto will still exist as it has without any concern of Man`s (new-school-biased? Astronomer`s) scheme of things. Sincerely, Pluto fan for 9.Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Lean Toward Eight Planets
Hello List, It appears that the only reason for dropping poor Pluto from the list of planets is an Americancultural bias in that SIZE COUNTS. Pluto, as do the rest of the planets, orbits the Sun in a somewhat regular manneras a planet; therefore leave its classification alone. Science may change the status of Pluto; but Pluto will still exist as it has without any concern of Man`s (new-school-biased? Astronomer`s) scheme of things. Sincerely, Pluto fan making 9.Dirk Ross...Tokyo__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA 4441- CO3.2 JPEG
Hello Moni, Suzi, John and List, Just in case you haven't noticed, my JPEG is up on Darren's website. He was kind enough to host it for all of us to enjoy. Thank you Darren ! Best, Bernd__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thanks to all
Thanks. I just got through talking to a person at the Utah Geological Society and he said pretty much the same thing. One thing did puzzle him that there was such a high concentration of iron stones in this area. Oh well, I knew it was too good to be true. The Krachen http://www.ladyofgreys.org All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Slate Island Impact Structure
FYI, my report on our ground explorations of the Slate Island impact structure may be viewed at: http://www.ottawa.rasc.ca/articles/odale_chuck/earth_craters/slate_islands/index.html Chuck Charles O'DaleMeeting ChairOttawa RASChttp://www.ottawa.rasc.ca/articles/odale_chuck/earth_craters/index.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Kalkaska info anyone?
I have always prefered to think the West Branch would be easier to locate more of, and there should be more laying around near someones house. I have been to the area and think there is more there. Best, Dave F. G. Nicula wrote: I wasn't aware of the abundance of information available online. Now that i've thoroughly read the responses, i think i'm all set. Thanks everyone for your feedback. George Nicula - Original Message - From: McLean, Howard L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 11:43 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Kalkaska info anyone? George Have a picture. Do you prefer a jpeg, pdf, or bitmap (all black and white). It is from Meteorites of Michigan Bulletin 5, dated 1968 (Michigan Geological Survey). Had no idea that Michigan State University has the main mass. 1. In case you do not have Grady's Catalog of Meteorites (2000), here is some info: Kalkaska 4438'49" N, 858'12" W Kalkaska County, Michigan, USA Find 1947 Iron. Valid(IIIAB) Medium octahedrite; bandwidth 1.0 mm Approx. recovered weight: 9.4 kg A mass of 20.72lb (9.4kg) was found, V.D. Chamberlain (1965; 1968). Analysis, 7.39 %Ni, 18.1 ppm.Ga, 33.5 ppm.Ge, 11 ppm.Ir, E.R.D. Scott et al. (1973). Description; shock-hardened, V.F. Buchwald (1975). Noble gas data compilation, L. Schultz H. Kruse (1989); L. Schultz pers. commun. (1998). Distribution: Main mass, Michigan State Univ., East Lansing; 670g, U.S. Nat. Mus., Washington; 483g, Arizona State Univ., Tempe; 12g, Max-Planck-Inst., Mainz; 27g, Field Mus. Nat. Hist., Chicago; 25g, Algonquin, DuPont Colln; 0.2g, Geol. Surv. Canada, Ottawa; 2. You might check out http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbullcheck.php 3. Again you might try http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php?code=12234 4. Or even Published in Meteoritical Bulletin, no. 34, Moscow (1965) Find references in NASA ADS Have fun, Howard __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
AW: [meteorite-list] Meteorites????
Hi Michael! There is another explanation for the magnetism of a rock, than to be a meteorite: the rock contains minerals which are magnetic. These minerals or ore minerals are magnetic, because they are composed by iron or Ni! A typical mineral (you can find in a lot of terrestrial rocks) is magnetite. Magnetite is an iron oxide (Fe3O4) and many terrestrial rocks can contain it in a amount, which is high enough, to make the rock magnetic: for example: basalt or some metamorphites. Its not the fact of magnetism, what a rock makes to a meteorite, its the complete mineral composition and the fabric of the rock. Your rocks look like terrestrial pebbles or something like that.but: the only way to be sure is, to carry them to an expert. Best Wishes Ingo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Michael Gesendet: Montag, 21. August 2006 14:57 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Meteorites I'm new to hunting for meteorites. I found a magnetic rock and from what I understand this could be a meteorite but I would like some input from y'all. Go to http://www.ladyofgreys.org/meteorites.htm and please let me know if there is another explanation for a rock being magnetic and so on Help is greytly appreciated. Michael The Krachen http://www.ladyofgreys.org Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fukang
Wow, wow, wow! What a beautySuziJoseph Murakami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: "Joseph Murakami" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comDate: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 21:49:10 -1000Subject: [meteorite-list] Fukang Just a neat pix of Fukang pallasite I found on this site:http://dolphingaze.blogspot.com/2006/01/work.htmlJoseph Honolulu__Meteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: LUNAR THIN SECTIONS
And when you are done with that site, it's time to dive into this treasure trove: http://cps.earth.northwestern.edu/cgi-bin/DPSC_Browse.pl ...thousands of slides from all the Apollo missions, searchable! Have fun, Jeff Hi, All, Fans of thin section photos may have already found this website, but if not, you should take a look at: http://www.union.edu/PUBLIC/GEODEPT/COURSES/petrology/moon_rocks/ A very large number of Lunar thin sections, nicely photographed by Kurt Hollocher of Union College in Schenectady, NY. Beautiful stuff. Sterling K. Webb __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Entry Burn [was Lunar Burn]
Ed, Chris me do not dispute that meteors can have different colours. What we point out is that these colours do not necessarily reflect the meteoroid composition, such as was assumed earlier in the thread. This is certainly the case for reported greenish colours, as we know from what meteor spectra exist that the Oxygen line at 558 nm (green), which is due to atmospheric Oxygen, often is a very prominent line in these spectra. The contribution of gasses in the atmosphere will vary with respect to altitude, and energy release. This is very evident in photographs of persistent trains of meteors, e.g. the many shot by us and others during the Leonids the past decade. Quit often you see that the early (higher) part of this is green, while the later (lower) part of these is yellow-red. - Marco Both entries were bright, and there was a distinct difference in spectra. I think this could go the way of the cold meteorites discussion, but fortunately in this case the color capabilities of automatic videotaping systems will probably resolve the question in the near future. The one had a green cast to it, the other did not. At least that's how it looked to me. I suppose for the time being maybe its best to leave it at that. good hunting, Ed - Dr Marco Langbroek Dutch Meteor Society (DMS) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] private website http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek DMS website http://www.dmsweb.org - __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Global Surveyor Images: August 17-23, 2006
MARS GLOBAL SURVEYOR IMAGES August 17-23, 2006 The following new images taken by the Mars Orbiter Camera (MOC) on the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft are now available: o Hole in Ground (Released 17 August 2006) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2006/08/17 o High Plains Ring (Released 18 August 2006) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2006/08/18 o Bits and Pieces (Released 19 August 2006) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2006/08/19 o Polar Layers, Exposed (Released 20 August 2006) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2006/08/20 o Cut-off (Released 21 August 2006) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2006/08/21 o Mars at Ls 93 Degrees (Released 22 August 2006) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2006/08/22 o Many-Layered Rock (Released 23 August 2006) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2006/08/23 All of the Mars Global Surveyor images are archived here: http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/index.html Mars Global Surveyor was launched in November 1996 and has been in Mars orbit since September 1997. It began its primary mapping mission on March 8, 1999. Mars Global Surveyor is the first mission in a long-term program of Mars exploration known as the Mars Surveyor Program that is managed by JPL for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, DC. Malin Space Science Systems (MSSS) and the California Institute of Technology built the MOC using spare hardware from the Mars Observer mission. MSSS operates the camera from its facilities in San Diego, CA. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory's Mars Surveyor Operations Project operates the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft with its industrial partner, Lockheed Martin Astronautics, from facilities in Pasadena, CA and Denver, CO. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] NWA 4441- CO3.2 JPEG
Hello Bernd, Sonny and list members, guess mine is not a CO3.2 Remember this one: http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/co3/co3-01.htm It is just a CO3. Why is there no .something after the CO3. Wouldn't this tell you the chondrule texture of the CO. And I see many of them. and I think it looks a lot like Bernd's. Happy searching, Moni From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 4441- CO3.2 JPEG Date: 22 Aug 2006 22:14:37 UT Hello Moni, Suzi, John and List, Just in case you haven't noticed, my JPEG is up on Darren's website. He was kind enough to host it for all of us to enjoy. Thank you Darren ! Best, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] SMART-1 Image: Close-Up on Cuvier Crater Ridge
http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMOB7BUQPE_index_0.html Close-up on Cuvier crater ridge SMART-1 European Space Agency 22 August 2006 This high-resolution image, taken by the Advanced Moon Imaging Experiment (AMIE) on board ESA's SMART-1 spacecraft, shows the young crater Cuvier C on the Moon. AMIE obtained this sequence on 18 March 2006 from a distance of 591 kilometres from the surface, with a ground resolution of 53 metres per pixel. The imaged area is centred at a latitude of 50.1º South and a longitude of 11.2º East, with a field of view of 27 km. The North is on the right of the image. This image shows the resolving power of the SMART-1 camera to measure the morphology of rims and craters in order to diagnose impact processes, says SMART-1 Project scientist Bernard Foing, or to establish the statistics of small craters for lunar chronology studies. Cuvier C, a crater about 10 kilometres across, is visible in the lower right part of the image. Cuvier C is located at the edge of the larger old crater Cuvier, a crater 77 kilometres in diameter. The upper left quadrant of the image contains the smooth floor of Cuvier, only one fourth of which is visible in this image. Crater Cuvier was named after the creator of the comparative anatomy, Georges Cuvier, a 19th century French naturalist (1769 - 1832). For more information Bernard H. Foing ESA SMART-1 Project Scientist Email: bernard.foing @ esa.int Jean-Luc Josset SPACE-X Space Exploration Institute Email: jean-luc.josset @ space-x.ch __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Size Counts concerning Pluto?
Hi all: I have been trying to stay out of the recent discussion until something really happens at the IAU. For me, I am concerned with it becoming too personal. However, two things. When we (DPS) spoke to Rick Binzel last week, the IAU committee (Rick was on it) was concerned that world opinion would be that the US (ie Lowell Obs) would want to keep Pluto as a plane because is was discovered by an American. Also, if you look at the original counterproposal (being the dominant object) which will get rid of Pluto as a planet, it was proposed by a group that included 2 from Uruguay, 5 from France, 2 Brazil, 3 Italy, 1 Chech., 1 Argentina, 1 Mexico, 1 Russia, and 2 US. Not quite American dominated unless you mean (North and SOuth America). Larry PS OPINION: No matter what ends up being the science behind defining a planet (original definition gives us 5 since Earth was not a planet), Pluto, for historical reasons, should remain a planet. OPINION: dwarf planet is a stupid term and raises all sorts of misconceptions for kids, etc. Why not go with size-challenged to be politically correct? Quoting drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello List, It appears that the only reason for dropping poor Pluto from the list of planets is an American cultural bias in that SIZE COUNTS. Pluto, as do the rest of the planets, orbits the Sun in a somewhat regular manner as a planet; therefore leave its classification alone. Science may change the status of Pluto; but Pluto will still exist as it has without any concern of Man`s (new-school-biased? Astronomer`s) scheme of things. Sincerely, Pluto fan for 9.Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Dr. Larry A. Lebofsky Senior Research Scientist Co-editor, Meteorite If you give a man a fish, Lunar and Planetary Laboratory you feed him for a day. 1541 East University If you teach a man to fish, University of Arizonayou feed him for a lifetime. Tucson, AZ 85721-0063 ~Chinese Proverb Phone: 520-621-6947 FAX:520-621-8364 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Lean Toward Eight Planets
Hello Sterling, why not throw Pluto a bone like they are trying to do? On the other hand, nice word - but we've seen that nothing is most correct in this business. Cryo- is Greek, by the way. What ever happened to TNOs (Trans-Neptunian Objects). My correct latinized preference, with nice alliterations for poetic use, would be: FRIGOPHILE Scientifically, this world captures the accepted hypotheses that these planets thrive like rabbits out there and if brought in closer to the Sun would croak. Other possibilities are: Frigoliths Frigolithospheres Best wishes, Doug The most correct technical term would be the jawbreaker CRYOSILICATE object. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] NWA 4441- CO3.2 JPEG
Sorry list, guess if you click on the link you see Bob's CO3. Actually we both found some. He found the larger stone and I found 28 fragments. The smaller ones on the images are the ones found by me. Moni Hello Bernd, Sonny and list members, guess mine is not a CO3.2 Remember this one: http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/co3/co3-01.htm It is just a CO3. Why is there no .something after the CO3. Wouldn't this tell you the chondrule texture of the CO. And I see many of them. and I think it looks a lot like Bernd's. Happy searching, Moni From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 4441- CO3.2 JPEG Date: 22 Aug 2006 22:14:37 UT Hello Moni, Suzi, John and List, Just in case you haven't noticed, my JPEG is up on Darren's website. He was kind enough to host it for all of us to enjoy. Thank you Darren ! Best, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA 4441 and Bob's CO Find
http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/co3/co3-01.htm Moni kindly wrote: It is just a CO3. Why is there no .something after the CO3. Wouldn't this tell you the chondrule texture of the CO. And I see many of them. Hello Moni and List, Some labs add this information, some don't. It may have to do with their equipment. Unfortunately the abundance of chondrules alone is not good enough to determine the sub-type. Just think of Sayh al Uhaymir 001. It has plenty of chondrules but it's only an L4/5. Cheers, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Park Forest and Kunashak Paired?
Just came across this very interesting abstract that points to potential pairings between these two beautiful meteorites. Also, it goes into a brief discussion about the black lithology in Park Forest and Kunashak. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2006/pdf/1891.pdf#search=%22park%20forest%20kunashak%22 -- === Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com ebay id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mike Brown: Astronomers Are Revolting!
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:34:08 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: an object that is smaller than a planet but still spherical. I have no particular attachment to this word, and would happily use any other that seemed reasonable (but, please, not Pluton which is a word already in use by geologists Judging from the amount of disagreement going on in both the astronomical and lay communities, I suggest this name for them: Discordons. (Derived from discord, also has mythology connections http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discord) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest and Kunashak Paired?
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:13:37 -0600, you wrote: Just came across this very interesting abstract that points to potential pairings between these two beautiful meteorites. Also, it goes into a brief discussion about the black lithology in Park Forest and Kunashak. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2006/pdf/1891.pdf#search=%22park%20forest%20kunashak%22 Interesting article-- and interesting that, out of however many people must have read drafts of this before it was published, nobody caught that at one point in the abstract they call it the Park Lake meteorite. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FW: TRADE OFFER #5
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[meteorite-list] Mariner 4 Meteor Mystery, Solved?
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/23aug_mariner4.htm Mariner Meteor Mystery, Solved? NASA Science News August 23, 2006 August 23, 2006: On July 14, 1965, Mariner 4 swooped over Mars. It was a moment of high drama. Six other probes had already tried to reach the red planet and failed. Since the days of H.G. Wells (War of the Worlds, 1898), people had been hearing about life on Mars, and they were ready to see the canals and cities. The wait was becoming excruciating. Finally, all was revealed. With flawless precision, Mariner 4 dipped less than 10,000 km above the planet's surface and took 22 pictures. Mars was covered with desert sand and ancient craters. No cities. No canals. No Martians. No one would ever look at the red planet the same way again. Most histories of the mission end right there, with Mariner 4 buzzing Mars -- the first spacecraft to visit the red planet-- and throwing cold water on a lot of good science fiction. But there's more to the story. After the flyby, something strange happened to Mariner 4, setting the stage for a 40-year mystery: Fast-forward to September 15, 1967. Mariner 4 was cruising the dark emptiness between Earth and Mars. Having shot past Mars in '65 without enough fuel to turn around and go back, there was nothing else to do. All was quiet. Fuel was running low. Soon, Mariner 4 would fade into history. That's when the meteor storm hit. For about 45 minutes the spacecraft experienced a shower of meteoroids more intense than any Leonid meteor storm we've ever seen on Earth, according to Bill Cooke, the head of NASA's Meteoroid Environment Office in Huntsville, AL. The impacts ripped away bits of insulation and temporarily changed the craft's orientation in space. It was a complete surprise. Think about it. Out in the emptiness between Earth and Mars, a region of space astronauts are going cross one day if NASA's Vision for Space Exploration comes to fruition, lurks a dark stream of meteoroids capable of producing a shower more intense than anything we've seen in centuries of sky watching on Earth. Until Mariner 4 stumbled onto it, says Cooke, we had no idea it was there. For almost 40 years the source of the shower remained a mystery. But now, meteor expert Paul Weigert of the University of Western Ontario may have cracked the case. The culprit, he believes, is a dark comet named D/1895 Q1 (Swift) or D/Swift for short. Comet D/Swift was first seen in August 1895 by the prolific comet hunter Lewis A. Swift, says Weigert. Swift discovered or co-discovered more than a dozen comets, including 109P/Swift-Tuttle, the source of the well-known Perseid meteor shower. Unlike his other comets, however, D/Swift quickly vanished. The comet was last spotted in February 1896 heading out of the inner Solar System, and it has never been seen since, even though its orbit indicates it should come back and brighten every 5 years or so. (Note that the prefix D/ indicates a lost or broken-up comet, one that was well-observed on one or more occasions, but which failed to reappear as expected.) What happened to D/Swift? The comet may have disintegrated, says Weigert. Comets are notoriously fragile and sometimes a little sunlight is all it takes to make them crumble. Comet D/Swift probably overheated when it passed by the sun in 1895 and later fell apart. D/Swift was mostly forgotten until last year when Bill Cooke wondered if some old D/ comet might be responsible for the Mariner 4 episode. Comets, especially disrupted comets, leave a stream of debris in their wake as they orbit the sun. If Mariner 4 passed through such a stream, it would have been sandblasted. He asked Weigert, a friend and colleague, to look into it. Weigert began to examine old comet data and - voila - Mariner 4 was close to the orbit of Comet D/Swift at the time of the meteor encounter. Amazingly, Mariner 4 was not merely close to the comet's orbit, it may have been close to the comet itself. According to our calculations, the [possibly shattered] nucleus of D/Swift was only 20 million kilometers from the spacecraft. As distances go in the solar system, that's nearby. It's like in Star Trek when Enterprise stumbles across a comet in the middle of deep space. Of course, that's crazy, says Cooke. Space is so big, the chances of running across a comet are almost nil. Yet this may be what happened to Mariner 4. Mariner's cameras weren't turned on at the time, so a comet could've passed by unnoticed - except for the jostling of comet dust. Telescopes on Earth saw nothing, but that's no surprise. An old, shattered nucleus wouldn't necessarily glow. It all makes sense. Case closed? Weigert still has doubts. The complicating factor is that, because D/Swift was seen for only a short time in 1895-96, its orbit is not terribly well-known. Our extrapolations could be wrong. We're in the process of collecting more observations from 19th century archives and re-analyzing them. Soon, I hope there will be enough
[meteorite-list] Ceres, Pallas, Juno Vesta Were Once Considered Planets
Here's an interesting history of the first asteroids: http://aa.usno.navy.mil/hilton/AsteroidHistory/minorplanets.html For roughly 50 years until the 1850's, Ceres, Pallas, Juno and Vesta were all considered planets. Ron Baalke __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Lean Toward Eight Planets
Hi, Doug and All, 1. Since it seems only right to declare your personal biases first, I am a 12+ proponent and a firm believer (on the basis of faith and a few numerical approximations) that an object beyond Pluto and bigger than the planet Mercury exists and will be discovered. (Then, the Clasical Eight become the Big Seven and Mercury is a solar asteroid!) 2. I firmly agree with Ron Baalke (who's a Pro-Eight) that the cultural component of this dispute is a major, maybe THE major, consideration. This a great opportunity to make science look silly to the populace, something we really don't need right now. Once formed, public perception is hard to change. What we have to decide is what makes science look sillier, or less silly. 3. While I may have made snide remarks about the IAU as preferring to dally and postpone, this may well be a time when that is the best idea. Declare a cooling off period; send it to another committee. The whole vote issue popped up too quickly, and it may well be that there just hasn't been time (or calm) enough for everybody to think it through. 4. While you are undoubtedly correct, Doug, about Latinate terms being appropriate, the Latinate term for cold has unfortunate associations in American-English slang, where frig is used as a not-too-polite euphemism for an old Anglo-Saxon verb with a similar sound. It would be the source of as much (more) classroom giggling as the pronunciation of Uranus. But cryo- and cryonic have widespread usage, popularly and scientifically (for that very reason, I suspect). 5. Even the guy who declared his love of Pluto in the New York Times (Susan's post) says of Pluto: It's mostly ice. Everybody calls the Plutonians ICEBALLS when this is obviously and unequivocally WRONG. People on this List do it all the time; scientists who don't like Pluonians as planets do it (and they should know better). The density of Pluto is 2.08. Ice has a density of 0.92. Because water-ice is compressible and then converts to a number of polymorphic crystalline structures of higher density, depending on the size of the body. (IceIII is the most likely, with a density of 1.14.) But the pressures required are very great. http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/phase.html But basically, a body with a density of 2.08 (Pluto) is best explained as containing 70% to 75% rock of density 2.7 and a mantle of mixed ices that is only the outer 10% to 13% of the planetary radius deep. (A shallow ice mantle limits the density of the ice.) That's a mantle if it's differentiated, but if it's just mixed, the compositional averages are the same. The density of Ceres (2.03) is the same as Pluto. Lots of the Plutonians have similar densities. 2003EL61's shape sets a density range limited to 2.6 to 3.3 (like the Earth's Moon, a well-known rockball). It's 100% rockball -- no ice at all (except for the surface dusting). Pluto's a rockball. Ceres is a rockball. Can you say ROCKBALL, boys and girls? If a body is 70%+ rock, why keep calling it an iceball? Wassup with that? Because it's cold? Calling Pluto an iceball is like calling the Earth a dirtball. I look at Earth's surface and it's mostly dirt, so the planet Earth is mostly made of dirt, right? Please, enough with the iceball! Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Sterling_K_Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Lean Toward Eight Planets Hello Sterling, why not throw Pluto a bone like they are trying to do? On the other hand, nice word - but we've seen that nothing is most correct in this business. Cryo- is Greek, by the way. What ever happened to TNOs (Trans-Neptunian Objects). My correct latinized preference, with nice alliterations for poetic use, would be: FRIGOPHILE Scientifically, this world captures the accepted hypotheses that these planets thrive like rabbits out there and if brought in closer to the Sun would croak. Other possibilities are: Frigoliths Frigolithospheres Best wishes, Doug The most correct technical term would be the jawbreaker CRYOSILICATE object. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Lean Toward Eight Planets
Whoever originally came up with the title Astronomers Lean Towards Eight Planets really should hang their head in shame for not coming up with Astronoers Gravitate Towards Eight Planets. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Lean Toward Eight Planets
In a message dated 8/23/2006 4:38:36 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2. I firmly agree with Ron Baalke (who's a Pro-Eight) that the cultural component of this dispute is a major, maybe THE major, consideration. This a great opportunity to make science look silly to the populace, something we really don't need right now. Once formed, public perception is hard to change. What we have to decide is what makes science look sillier, or less silly. -- I have been reading all those posts about the 8 - 9 - 12 - 10 planets, and trying to make sense out of it. Yes, the cultural component is a major consideration. From the time I was a little girl going to the Planetarium in Paris, I was taught that a Planet was a sphere orbiting the Sun. And that there were 9 of them. There could be more, we simply didn't know enough to tell one way or the other. And the masses that weren't round? they were Asteroids. Period. And that covered the whole thing. No discussion as to composition, angle of the orbit, number of moons, or distance from the Sun. To me that still covers it. And that makes perfect sense. Regardless of numbers. Now why can't the members of the IAU see it that way? aren't they simply lacking Common Sense? Vox Populi. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Lean Toward Eight Planets
Hi all - plutonians? I think not - pluton has a well defined geological (planetary) usage. plutos, with Pluto being the first of the class, and no new word to remember, just add s and make the P a p - easy enough, and clyde'ss friends can't be too upset with it - Hopefully this will all be over by thursday, for the time being... and we can get back to the formation of meteorite parent bodies, hunting, dealing, pricing... damn, I'm almost ready for another add from Chicago... and whatever happened to Michael Casper, who liquidated his holdings right before the torrent from NWA flooded the market, while telling us all he was going out of the dealing business for personal reasons? cagey, wasn't he? good hunting, Ed --- Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Doug and All, 1. Since it seems only right to declare your personal biases first, I am a 12+ proponent and a firm believer (on the basis of faith and a few numerical approximations) that an object beyond Pluto and bigger than the planet Mercury exists and will be discovered. (Then, the Clasical Eight become the Big Seven and Mercury is a solar asteroid!) 2. I firmly agree with Ron Baalke (who's a Pro-Eight) that the cultural component of this dispute is a major, maybe THE major, consideration. This a great opportunity to make science look silly to the populace, something we really don't need right now. Once formed, public perception is hard to change. What we have to decide is what makes science look sillier, or less silly. 3. While I may have made snide remarks about the IAU as preferring to dally and postpone, this may well be a time when that is the best idea. Declare a cooling off period; send it to another committee. The whole vote issue popped up too quickly, and it may well be that there just hasn't been time (or calm) enough for everybody to think it through. 4. While you are undoubtedly correct, Doug, about Latinate terms being appropriate, the Latinate term for cold has unfortunate associations in American-English slang, where frig is used as a not-too-polite euphemism for an old Anglo-Saxon verb with a similar sound. It would be the source of as much (more) classroom giggling as the pronunciation of Uranus. But cryo- and cryonic have widespread usage, popularly and scientifically (for that very reason, I suspect). 5. Even the guy who declared his love of Pluto in the New York Times (Susan's post) says of Pluto: It's mostly ice. Everybody calls the Plutonians ICEBALLS when this is obviously and unequivocally WRONG. People on this List do it all the time; scientists who don't like Pluonians as planets do it (and they should know better). The density of Pluto is 2.08. Ice has a density of 0.92. Because water-ice is compressible and then converts to a number of polymorphic crystalline structures of higher density, depending on the size of the body. (IceIII is the most likely, with a density of 1.14.) But the pressures required are very great. http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/phase.html But basically, a body with a density of 2.08 (Pluto) is best explained as containing 70% to 75% rock of density 2.7 and a mantle of mixed ices that is only the outer 10% to 13% of the planetary radius deep. (A shallow ice mantle limits the density of the ice.) That's a mantle if it's differentiated, but if it's just mixed, the compositional averages are the same. The density of Ceres (2.03) is the same as Pluto. Lots of the Plutonians have similar densities. 2003EL61's shape sets a density range limited to 2.6 to 3.3 (like the Earth's Moon, a well-known rockball). It's 100% rockball -- no ice at all (except for the surface dusting). Pluto's a rockball. Ceres is a rockball. Can you say ROCKBALL, boys and girls? If a body is 70%+ rock, why keep calling it an iceball? Wassup with that? Because it's cold? Calling Pluto an iceball is like calling the Earth a dirtball. I look at Earth's surface and it's mostly dirt, so the planet Earth is mostly made of dirt, right? Please, enough with the iceball! Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Sterling_K_Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Lean Toward Eight Planets Hello Sterling, why not throw Pluto a bone like they are trying to do? On the other hand, nice word - but we've seen that nothing is most correct in this business. Cryo- is Greek, by the way. What ever happened to TNOs (Trans-Neptunian Objects). My correct latinized preference, with nice alliterations for poetic use, would be: FRIGOPHILE Scientifically, this world captures the accepted hypotheses that
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Entry Burn [was Lunar Burn]
Welcome back, Walter I'd like to point out that my original comment was intended to desuggest copper in favor of nickel. We who have done blowpipe mineral studies tend to think in that framework. Several years ago on my farm outside Ft Benning, Georgia I saw 2 nearly identical fireballs in the same sky location but they were on adjacent nights. Both were headed towards the Benning impact area, so I had doubts as to their true identity. Most notable was that both showed a pressure/bow wave clearly leading the dimmer fireball. The bow waves were orange in the center with green wings. Since the sighting of two identical fireballs on successive evenings is improbable, my inclination was that this might be secret rail gun experiments. The rail gun fires a Lucite slug with copper plate. Ergo the assumption that this was a copper blowpipe signature.( I now believe that these were true meteoroids not weapon's testing) Around that time there was a list discussion about green meteors and the consensus was that green from a meteor was due to nickel--copper being an extremely minor element found in meteorites. Thus the origin of that thought: nickel vs copper. There was also a lengthy discussion about the desire to do spectral analysis on fireballs as a signature for identifying possible meteoroid composition. I hadn't heard much since that time. I don't disagree that oxygen has a green spectral line, just that this was the first I heard of atmospheric oxygen as an emmiter in fireball reentry. I rarely see green as a color in fireballs with some Leonoids and the two specific fireballs I mentioned before as the notible exceptions. If anyone has specific links to the discussion of meteor spectrums, please share. Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ceres, Pallas, Juno Vesta Were Once Considered Planets
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:40:35 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: Here's an interesting history of the first asteroids: http://aa.usno.navy.mil/hilton/AsteroidHistory/minorplanets.html For roughly 50 years until the 1850's, Ceres, Pallas, Juno and Vesta were all considered planets. Scandalous, how those scientists were willing to hurt the feelings of poor dead Guiseppe Piazzi, Heinrich Olbers, and, uh... whoever it was discoved Juno and Vesta! Shouldn't science have enshrined their misunderstandings as their legacies? Great illustration about half-way down the page: http://aa.usno.navy.mil/hilton/AsteroidHistory/Sizes/sizessmall.gif __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Lean Toward Eight Planets
Hi Anne: Please remember that many scientists [not me :0)] have something to make up for their common sense ... their big EGOS. If you have any doubt about this, ask Nancy. It is the old my theory is better (bigger) than your theory. There are lots of ways to define a planet (we have seen many of them over the past few days) and some are better than others and none of them is perfect. But, you must remember, from the perspective of many scientists, there is no question that their theory is better than anyone elses. Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Lean Toward Eight Planets
Suspend Jugement. Hold the Count. Let's await the technology to allow us to count #'s in Other Solar, errr, Star Systems. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Lean Toward Eight Planets In a message dated 8/23/2006 4:38:36 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2. I firmly agree with Ron Baalke (who's a Pro-Eight) that the cultural component of this dispute is a major, maybe THE major, consideration. This a great opportunity to make science look silly to the populace, something we really don't need right now. Once formed, public perception is hard to change. What we have to decide is what makes science look sillier, or less silly. -- I have been reading all those posts about the 8 - 9 - 12 - 10 planets, and trying to make sense out of it. Yes, the cultural component is a major consideration. From the time I was a little girl going to the Planetarium in Paris, I was taught that a Planet was a sphere orbiting the Sun. And that there were 9 of them. There could be more, we simply didn't know enough to tell one way or the other. And the masses that weren't round? they were Asteroids. Period. And that covered the whole thing. No discussion as to composition, angle of the orbit, number of moons, or distance from the Sun. To me that still covers it. And that makes perfect sense. Regardless of numbers. Now why can't the members of the IAU see it that way? aren't they simply lacking Common Sense? Vox Populi. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] THE IAU VOTE -- LIVE VIDEO
Hi, All, There will be live streaming video of the final session of the IAU General Assembly XXXVI, that is, the vote on the planetary definition question, at this website: http://www.astronomy2006.com/media-stream-live.php at 2 PM local time (2:00 PM in Prague, or 14:00 hours CEST, Central European Summer Time, or GMT + 2 hours) which is: 9:00 AM EST or 8:00 AM EDT, 8:00 AM CST or 7:00 AM CDT, 7:00 AM MST or 6:00 AM MDT, 6:00 AM PST or 5:00 AM PDT (One hour earlier for Alaska, two hours earlier for Hawaii). The content of the Final Resolution is unknown. http://www.iau2006.org/mirror/www.iau.org/NEWS.55.0.html says: We will tomorrow morning at roughly 8:30 CEST issue a press release. It will contain the Final Resolution on the planet definition put up for voting, the details of the voting procedure and an approximate timeline. (That's in less than three hours from now.) The vote is a straight yes or no. If the vote is no, there is no definition. Sterling K. Webb __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Lean Toward Eight Planets
That's agrivating Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Lean Toward Eight Planets Whoever originally came up with the title Astronomers Lean Towards Eight Planets really should hang their head in shame for not coming up with Astronoers Gravitate Towards Eight Planets. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Lean Toward Eight Planets
The newest issue of Time magazine has quoted Michael Brown as saying, It's a 'No Ice Ball Left Behind' policy, referring to the possibility of many more solar system bodies suddenly gaining planetary status. Who says astronomers don't have a since of humor. Personally, I think the IAU is premature in attempting to define just what planet is. We need to gather more data on just what the objects are that are out there, both solar and (especially) extra-solar. -Walter Branch __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
