Re: [meteorite-list] Duck Chondrule
Adam and List, Yes, Adam I agree, that is why I wrote about the Mekong iron and now they are offering fake Nantans.They have to stoop pretty low to sell fake Nantan as well?!! It will get much worse in the future from what I see in the local markets in SE Asia. Soon NWAs will be "found" in China and Thailand. We already have them being "newly discovered" in Isreal. Buyers and sellersbeware of your sources or you may end up ruining your own reputations in the future with faked locations. Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo I have no idea what their duck chondrule ismost likely an iron rich sedimentary rock or a highly weathered volcanic? Nice vugs with secondary carbonates I suppose they will soon be offering their own versions of"Lunars" and "Martians".IF they want to be billionares.Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 5-billionaires group are a bunch con artists and idiots.Look at their latest "Duck Chondrule" offering, this is definitely one for the books:http://cgi.ebay.com/Duck-chondrule-155g-8-Slice-STONY-METEORITE-VERY-RARE_W0QQitemZ230036197978QQihZ013QQcategoryZ3239QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemI don't think they have ever sold a real meteorite. They know they are selling garbage and are trying to rip-off the public. Just look how hard they try to convince their audience that these are real meteorites. They run a magnet with a sticky substance on it all over a supposed Nantan in one auction. If this were a real iron meteorite, the magnet would jump out of there hands. In another auction, they zoom in on light colored objects claiming they are chondrules.This reminds me of the Shirokovsky pallasite webpage images complete with divers and a poor story where every stone weighed exactly 50 kilograms, the size of a crucible. I remember you could not make out any the faces of the hunters on this web presence, I wonder why? This new group is brash enough to think that meteorite collectors are stupid enough to jump all over a $28,000.00 Earth rock. Billionaires, give me a break, they should call themselves penny-aires because that is what a lot of their items are selling for except for one unsuspecting person who paid several hundred for a fake meteorite.I would love to run into this group in Tucson. I would buy them a round of Denver Death Cookies and extract a confession from them. By the way, I owe some Margaritas on a lost wager that I will make good on at the next show.Take Care,Adam__Meteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Finds, a New Website, and a New Forum
Hello Everybody, I have just updated my website. I changed many pages. I have added many many more photos and descriptions. I have uploaded new photos of my new Il finds (these are nothing like the other ones that I have posted here or elsewhere). I am currently in the process of getting a couple of them authenticated (2 chondrites and an iron). There are nice photos of them, macros from under the 10X microscope that shows lots of nice chondrules and many metal flakes. Some of them have really nice fusion crust. Take a look for your self, then let me know what you think. You are also all invited to come check out and join the new growing meteorite hunting and collecting forum. Here is the website (lots of new photos) http://illinoismeteorites.com/Here is the other forum: http://illinoismeteorites.com/yabb/YaBB.plThanks to everyone for taking time to check out my new finds and updated website.Thanks,Joe Kerchner__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Duck Chondrule
Dear Dirk; Nothing against non IMCA members but it would point a few would-be buyers, nieve buyers in a different positive directionAh, never mind, anyone willing to spend more than a few hundred thousand on a rock would surely do their homework first.wouldn't they? I'd like to think. Dave F. drtanuki wrote: Ken and List, Great photo Ken! This is just the tip of the iceberg. The dangerous thing I see happening is foreign buyers buying the stuff in Thailand and elsewhere and taking it back to their countries to sell. Yes, I have seen several foreign buyers buying it in Thailand. Best, Dirk...Tokyo --- ken newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam and All, I have had many email discussions with with these clowns. They know exactly what they are doing. I prefer this photo: http://home.earthlink.net/~wrongs/images/5_billionaires.jpg Best, Ken Newton #9632 Adam Hupe wrote: The 5-billionaires group are a bunch con artists and idiots. Look at their latest "Duck Chondrule" offering, this is definitely one for the books: http://cgi.ebay.com/Duck-chondrule-155g-8-Slice-STONY-METEORITE-VERY-RARE_W0QQitemZ230036197978QQihZ013QQcategoryZ3239QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I don't think they have ever sold a real meteorite. They know they are selling garbage and are trying to rip-off the public. Just look how hard they try to convince their audience that these are real meteorites. They run a magnet with a sticky substance on it all over a supposed Nantan in one auction. If this were a real iron meteorite, the magnet would jump out of there hands. In another auction, they zoom in on light colored objects claiming they are chondrules. This reminds me of the Shirokovsky pallasite webpage images complete with divers and a poor story where every stone weighed exactly 50 kilograms, the size of a crucible. I remember you could not make out any the faces of the hunters on this web presence, I wonder why? This new group is brash enough to think that meteorite collectors are stupid enough to jump all over a $28,000.00 Earth rock. Billionaires, give me a break, they should call themselves penny-aires because that is what a lot of their items are selling for except for one unsuspecting person who paid several hundred for a fake meteorite. I would love to run into this group in Tucson. I would buy them a round of Denver Death Cookies and extract a confession from them. By the way, I owe some Margaritas on a lost wager that I will make good on at the next show. Take Care, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Earth Picture of the Day - Impact Sites
FYI. http://epod.usra.edu/archive/epodviewer.php3?oid=328672 http://epod.usra.edu/archive/epodviewer.php3?oid=324896 http://epod.usra.edu/archive/epodviewer.php3?oid=315776 Charles O'DaleMeeting ChairOttawa RASChttp://www.ottawa.rasc.ca/articles/odale_chuck/earth_craters/index.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
SV: [meteorite-list] The geologist on the moon and Comet SWAN
Hello MexicoDoug, I think you should just try loading it again, they are ok for me. On the other hand this is only a 320mm lens of a traditional SLR-camera, so don't expect tooo much. But for people only with binoculars this will show what they can see at the moment. Tonight it is raining here, btw. Bjørn Sørheim From: MexicoDoug [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2006-10-06 23:03:26 CEST To: Bjorn Sorheim [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The geologist on the moon and Comet SWAN Great job Bjorn! The first two pictures (the most important ones, I think) seem to be broken links and aren't showing for me. It's easy to be envious of your northern location after hauling my camera out 7 days straight including last night and this morning with nothing but horizon haze and clouds. The way I figure it the further southern latitudes (N33 - N25) will have the best opportunity very close to the evening of October 16, when the comet will be a good brightness fraction of what it is now, not too diffuse, but after which the Comet will start dimming more rapidly (0.1 mag loss daily throughout November). Here's a nice picture of Rob's Comet you can feast your eyes on taken by a dedicated astronomer near Buffalo, NY...he'll also sells prints. Rob's Comet is very green and this can be noted in the photo. It is a very pretty shot considering Tom Bakowski took it on October 2 and it was so low in the sky (7 degrees), and moisture was evaporating off nearby Lake Erie: http://www.tomseyeonthesky.com/images/Recent/cometSwan.JPG Best wishes, Doug - Original Message - From: Bjorn Sorheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:21 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] The geologist on the moon and Comet SWAN List, Just ran out last night with my camera when I read about the comet on another list. Had to go to another place because of the bad horizon. Here's a page I made. Could be also helpful in locating it. Congratulations to Rob Matson! http://home.online.no/~bsoerhei/astro/komet/C2006_M4_SWAN/Comet%20SWAN%20M4. html Regards, Bjørn Sørheim More fresh Moss pieces CO3.5/CO3.6 for sale: http://home.online.no/~bsoerhei/astro/meteor/060714/moss.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] PolandMET reactivation...
Welcome back, Marcin! I'm sure that you will now be able to work better and wish you ALL THE BEST. Kind regards, Frederic - Original Message - From: PolandMET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 8:21 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] PolandMET reactivation... Good morning/evening list I was very silent last few months. Maybe some of You are astonished why I disappear from the market. I was forced to stop selling worldwide (mainly on eBay.com) becouse of loosing payment options to non-european customers. This happends becouse BidPay was discontinued since 01 january and PayPal still was limited for central and east europe to send only. After great Ensisheim fair in June I stop any activity in meteorite business... and start wait for PayPal. There was no other thing to do than this. Belive me, that hurts. Fortunately two days ago, after one month technical delay PayPal upgraded accounts in Poland and some other countries to full working type. Soon will add also polish curency to the system. I can finaly accept PayPal payments for my web store items and eBay auctions. Im back 8-) -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - October 8, 2006
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - October 8, 2006
A Great Stone! Deserves this Great a Picture! Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 7:55 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - October 8, 2006 http://www.spacerocksinc.com/october_8.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Duck Chondrule
Thanks Anne, I wasn't worried. Just reminiscing. I received a few private emails from new list members asking what this is about. Here is the short story. I had a website for a few years called branchmeteorites.com. It was primarily informational though I did have some sales pages. It was constantly under construction. I compiled that hits page to primarily document the effects of worldwide increasing population density. I did not (and do not now) believe that meteorite influx is increasing. My site was initially a labor of love but it got to be simply a labor. The number of hits dropped off. What with time constraints etc., I decided to discontinue the website. Ken Newton asked if the IMCA could have it to add to the IMCA site so naturally I said sure. I am sure Ken will correct me if I am mistaken but he now administers the pages that used to be my site. One of the pages I liked the most was the meteorite test page. If you have not seen it, go to the page and see if you can spot the meteorites vs. meteorwrongs. -Walter Branch - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Duck Chondrule In a message dated 10/6/2006 6:44:30 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: attention on the IMCA website, _www.IMCA.cc_ (http://www.IMCA.cc) , click on Collecting. My old website... sniff, sniff:-( -Walter Branch You are right Walter. I should have mentioned that you graciously donated your website to the IMCA. But don't worry, we do remember, and like it very much. Thanks again Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: ebay auctions ending soon
Hi everyone! I have six ebay auctions ending soon. - gorgeous slice of Esquel - 11 gr. slice of Fukang with excellent transparency - two extremely thin sliced lunars - NWA 479 and DAG 400 - a small partslice of Farmington - and a pretty small slice of Estherville If you are interested please follow this link: http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=meteoriten Thank you for looking and Good Luck in case you are bidding. BEst Regards Moritz Karl __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ducky chondrule
..just had a thought - if one was to bid on at $13,000,000 item - would they be charged for the eBay fees even if I refused to pay? It'd be worth the bad feedback - especially if they had to cough the fees to eBay before getting them refunded due to buyer non-payment! Ideas? Best! dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS www.bimsociety.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Paypal Hackers WARNING!!!
Hi List. Today I received a phony PAYPAL transaction order of an item that I did not purchase. Having seen this hacking scam by hackers using Ebay I was quite shocked that this time it is by using Paypal. I guess I should not be surprised since Ebay and Paypal are basically united together. Anyways DO NOT click anything on that email. INSTEAD go to your Paypal account by clicking on a new browser and log in then check your history. You will see (I hope) that there is no such transaction. The fake email try's to get you to click on their site and let you think your on Paypal (EXCELLENT FAKE!) and then it try's to get your password ect. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND you change your password while your on Paypal after checking your history as I did. Thank you. Sincerely Don Merchant __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Space Shuttle Atlantis Suffered Major Micrometeorid/Orbiting Debris Hit
Ron: Has there been any assessment of what risk such a hit would have posed had a space-suited astronaut been the "target" during an EVA? Mark > > http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=4848 > > Atlantis suffered major MMOD hit > By Chris Bergin > nasaspaceflightnow.com > October 4, 2006 > > Shuttle orbiter Atlantis was hit by a MMOD (micrometeoroid/orbiting > debris) event during STS-115, which NASA is describing as the "first or > second largest hit" in the history of the Shuttle program. > > While the debris hit a radiator panel on the cargo bay doors, NASA are > concerned, given the size of the MMOD, which they claim was large enough > to have penetrated - possibly critically - Atlantis' heatshield. > > -- CoreComm Webmail. http://home.core.com__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] meteorite-list] Anyone out there hunting the possible Colorado fall?
from my portch it looked like it fell nearly due east of my position. which would put the fall closer to Alamosa. Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Finds, a New Website, and a New Forum
Nice website, Joe. I hope that many of your finds will be tested as genuine meteorites! Thanks for sharing. Best wishes, Fred - Original Message - From: Joe To: MeteoriteList TheList Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 10:19 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] New Finds, a New Website, and a New Forum Hello Everybody, I have just updated my website. I changed many pages. I have added many many more photos and descriptions. I have uploaded new photos of my new Il finds (these are nothing like the other ones that I have posted here or elsewhere). I am currently in the process of getting a couple of them authenticated (2 chondrites and an iron). There are nice photos of them, macros from under the 10X microscope that shows lots of nice chondrules and many metal flakes. Some of them have really nice fusion crust. Take a look for your self, then let me know what you think. You are also all invited to come check out and join the new growing meteorite hunting and collecting forum. Here is the website (lots of new photos) http://illinoismeteorites.com/Here is the other forum: http://illinoismeteorites.com/yabb/YaBB.plThanks to everyone for taking time to check out my new finds and updated website.Thanks,Joe Kerchner __Meteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Earth Picture of the Day - Impact Sites
Thanks Chuck Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Charles O'Dale To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 12:40 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Earth Picture of the Day - Impact Sites FYI. http://epod.usra.edu/archive/epodviewer.php3?oid=328672 http://epod.usra.edu/archive/epodviewer.php3?oid=324896 http://epod.usra.edu/archive/epodviewer.php3?oid=315776 Charles O'DaleMeeting ChairOttawa RASChttp://www.ottawa.rasc.ca/articles/odale_chuck/earth_craters/index.html __Meteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Paypal Hackers WARNING!!!
Hi List. Today I received a phony PAYPAL transaction order of an itemthat I did not purchase. Having seenthis hacking scam by hackers using Ebay I was quite shocked that this time it is by using Paypal.I guess I should not be surprised since Ebay and Paypal are basically united together. Anyways DO NOT click anything on that email. INSTEAD go to your Paypal account by clicking on a new browser and log in then check your history. You will see (I hope) that there is no such transaction.The fake email try's to get you to click on theirsite and let you think your on Paypal (EXCELLENT FAKE!)and then it try's to get your password ect. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND you change your password while your on Paypal afterchecking your historyas I did. Thank you. Sincerely Don Merchant __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] status of the Noktat Addagmar meteorite and AD
Dear List, wo would like to thank those of you that sent us replies concerning our request for additional information on the meteoritic material recently found at Noktat Addagmar/Morocco. Unfortunately it seems that fallfresh material with a very similar lithology was found in the close vicinity of the caravansary of Noktat Adagmar before June 30th 2006. This in mind the eye wittness reports claiming the date of the fall to be 2006 June 30 could not be confirmed. Although the meteorites would obviously match a weathering grade W0 and despite the fact that a precise find location has been recorded we were not able to gather further information suffient for a fall submission. We have therefore decided not to submit Noktat Addagmar until the circumstances of the recovery of this pristine meteorite can be fully cleared. We will keep our main mass of 591gm but we will separate with the two smaller fragments of 188gm and 420gm respectively that wemanaged to acquire. Collectors and curators with a small budget and foccused on entry shaped meteoritemorphologies will appreciate that decision. We have listed the two fragments on ebayat the following coordinates: 188 gm Noktat Addagmar: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=010item=200034439037rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITrd=1 420 gm Noktat Addagmar: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=010item=200034442539rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITrd=1 Furthermore we take to liberty to include the link to a breathtaking unclassified 1.3 kg chondrite that was discovered by a shepherd near a seddlement named Imlili 10Km from El Argoub which is 90Km from Dakhla/Morocco on April 25, 2005. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200034434717sspagename=ADME:B:AAQ:DE:1 To view more meteorite auctions by Niger Meteorite Recon please click "seller's other items" Thanks for your support and your interest. Svend www.niger-meteorite-recon.de P.S. by the way. Who of you folks willattend the the traditional Fliegerbraeu opening of the Munich [meteorite] fair? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Duck Chondrule
Rob, We all get burned once in a while. We don't eliminate fire or passion. Your students probably won't buy questionable junk since they are your students. Offer a little buyer beware advice. It may be crass but every collector has to deal with tantalizing choices and reason doesn't always will out no matter how well informed they are. Everyone has to learn to think beyond the imca box eventually. Bill -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/6/2006 5:42:15 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My biggest concern (I'm sure I've said this before) is that one of my students comes to me with a lump of pumice or similar and says I bought this meteorite off ebay. If I have to tell them its not a meteorite because the 5 billionaires or similar have conned them. How am I going to feel, having got them interested? Have you ever looked at Ken Newton's page on Ebay? _http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=magellon_ (http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=magellon) It is very informative, and very entertaining. And he keeps it up to date, so you should look at it often. I happen to know that he is preparing to add to it. And you will find more information about scams being brought to our attention on the IMCA website, _www.IMCA.cc_ (http://www.IMCA.cc) , click on Collecting. -- Nail them up, I say! Nail some sense into them! I know the sellers names of the guys I trust but I don't want to be advertising them but what else could I do? (OK, I tell them anyone with an IMCA no. is OK) In difficulty Rob McC Thank you, we do try our best to keep it that way! Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Paypal Hackers WARNING!!!
Last week I received a video camera from UPS that I did not purchase. After researching it, I discovered that someone had purchased it off Ebay and used my Paypal account to pay for it. They even took about $60 more than the camera sold for. I don't know if this is part of the same scam, but I do have Paypal and American Express looking into it. I also recommend everyone check their Paypal historys and make any changes possible. David Hardy - Original Message From: Don Merchant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2006 11:48:25 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Paypal Hackers WARNING!!! Hi List. Today I received a phony PAYPAL transaction order of an item that I did not purchase. Having seen this hacking scam by hackers using Ebay I was quite shocked that this time it is by using Paypal. I guess I should not be surprised since Ebay and Paypal are basically united together. Anyways DO NOT click anything on that email. INSTEAD go to your Paypal account by clicking on a new browser and log in then check your history. You will see (I hope) that there is no such transaction. The fake email try's to get you to click on their site and let you think your on Paypal (EXCELLENT FAKE!) and then it try's to get your password ect. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND you change your password while your on Paypal after checking your history as I did. Thank you. Sincerely Don Merchant __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Murchison Price Difference
Twinstarwell know why he ask the % on paypal payments for ebayMurchins have prices go from $50 to 100-150/gr. depend on size, type of piece etc... Matteo --- Don Merchant [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Hi List. If I am out of line here I sincerely apologize to any and all I may offend. Can some one explain why such a HUGE difference in auction price! I'm confused here. Check out both auctions and compare. Maybe there is something I'm missing here except my wallet! Sincerely Don Merchant http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=011item=320021921340rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITrd=1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=011item=320032119384rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITrd=1 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Murchison Price Difference
mah...for me depend on rarityI have just sold some pieces of italian historical falls impossible to find from Euro 200 to 400 for gram and all its go sold immediatly, and I have other 2 slices of Siena under the eyes of some collectorsto the face of who say the historical falls its the same ordinary material type the NWAbut I never have seen a slice of Ensisheim sold for $10/gr. ... Matteo --- MexicoDoug [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Hi Martin, nice positive outlook! But, let's test these assumptions, just to temper it a little with an alternate economic scenario (Hi Doug of 2026, pleased to meet you and 2006 sends you a warm greeting not to forget! Can you believe that Art's archive's are still available on the Meteorites Disk #23 for $250 each on neXtBay on the exoNet?) There are market swings. The USA enthusiasts are buoying the price of a deluge of meteorites to nice levels today given the flooded market. Just ask the German collectors. The USA suffers booms and busts throughout its economic history. A vote on perpetually increasing meteorite pricing is a vote of confidence in the US economy being the driver of the world, without any dips in the road to eternity. That's a nice thought. Forever consuming 35% of the world's electricity, drowning in petroleum etc. At some point there will be a bust. Maybe when the US Congress realizes that it's debt to equity ratio is worse than a third world country, or maybe when an entire burgeoning generation of aging Americans asks, where is my medical care? Where is my Social Security, and then some responsible fiscal planning starts. Then, Americans will discover German eBay and dump their meteorites there to buy their medications in legions of can you help a brother sales. And suddenly charitable Germans will come to the rescue. Hmmm. 1000 collectors who would rather have an old piece of space rubble than a shining ingot of gold. That fall, ... hmmm ... two tons? Let's see. Each collector can have a couple of kilos. How much is a gram worth? Let German eBay figure it out. Unsatisfied, they will try to negotiate with the nouveau rich of a unified China. have you ever negotiated with them? They're a lot tougher than Germans... Oh yes, the locked up in museums defense. Maybe the Ensisheim Stone won't crack its shackles. Which other ones are so locked up...there must be a few less speculative investments no doubt, like that. But no guarantees...that's why its called business... Right now you can buy a gram of Eucrite for the price of a Big Mac hamburger. We can revisit that ratio when the US starts paying back $400 billion for Iraq and faces high oil prices despite best intentions. Then we can see is a gram of Lunar meteorites can fill my gas tank. (or maybe 10 grams a Russian's tank). Maybe Martians will be $10,000 per gram:) As long as gas isn't $200 per liter Then I'll send you some Dutch tulip bulbs to start a garden. Have a cup of Earl Grey and reminisce about when a good marketer could painfully break even buying and selling meteorites. Meteorites are not rarer than antiques. They are not rarer than anything that can be described as unique. There are a lot of unique things out there. They are rocks with a great story. And we do just love them. Money and love don't always mix well, though. Sometimes when it rains it pours and when it is dry, it's parched as a bone. Speculating about speculating is quite a spectacle, economists are never wrong! The problem is when they really start believing what they say...and convince everyone else that forward looking statements in 10-K's are sure things ... and that 8-K's don't happen... Best wishes, Doug Above is fictitious scenario. No claims are made nor is it the intention to create expectations of truth. The future is unpredictable. Scenario planning is simply a useful tool to understand and manage risks. - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'David Weir' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 6:44 AM Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] Murchison Price Difference Each meteorite has its time. Nowadays the usual price for Murchison is 60-100$/g. 7-5 years ago it was at 50-100$/g. A German collector told me, that shortly after the fall, he sent a letter to Murchison enquiring about the circumstances of this new fall. A while later a parcel came back, with nice wording and because in Murchison they were so delighted, that somebody from such a far country paid attention to that fall, they added a 50g stone for free as a little thank you. It is very simple. Meteorites are the rarest good on Earth. If from a locales the lion share is once distributed, the prices are getting higher. The pattern with new falls nowadays is always the same.
Re: [meteorite-list] Paypal Hackers WARNING!!!
Hi Don and List. I got a similar mail. It said that I had bid on and purchased a DELL notebook for $600+ ... I immediately deleted that mail and then checked my HISTORY. So let's keep a sharp lookout!!! Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Paypal Hackers WARNING!!!
Bernd wrote: I got a similar mail. It said that I had bid on and purchased a DeLL notebook I got that one too about three hours ago. So it looks like that particular phisherman could be harvesting the met list for email addresses. No big deal, just deleted without delay along with the rest of the spam - another proof that my email server is up and running, along with the list volume. All emails are guilty until proven innocent. I feel sorry for all the less lucid people easily befuddled that are trying to learn the internet to communicate with family members and are new to PayPal. This particularly PayPal Spam that Bernd brings up, which arrived with three other PayPal Spam messages was different in one respect. There was actually an innocent looking address in Penna., USA and a request to confirm that it was the right address for the notebook's shipment. Tricky, tricky these prickly sicklies. I wonder why a hackers' vigilante network doesn't go after these worms to give them a taste of their own dirt. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Paypal Hackers WARNING!!!
Dear List; I have been studying issues first hand on hacking via the Internet Explorer versus other browsers...Firefox is much more secure and less hackable. Every common crook has figured out how to hack into IE thus making it much easier for them to open the door to your accounts.I rarely use IE, use Navigator for my emails and weather/news, and use Firefox for my eBay and paypal accounts. I still very wisely forward each one of those phony emails to paypal and ebay spoof addresses to keep reminding them to get rid of the holes that make them so hackable. You should too. Very best, Dave Freeman Don Merchant wrote: Hi List. Today I received a phony PAYPAL transaction order of an item that I did not purchase. Having seen this hacking scam by hackers using Ebay I was quite shocked that this time it is by using Paypal. I guess I should not be surprised since Ebay and Paypal are basically united together. Anyways DO NOT click anything on that email. INSTEAD go to your Paypal account by clicking on a new browser and log in then check your history. You will see (I hope) that there is no such transaction. The fake email try's to get you to click on their site and let you think your on Paypal (EXCELLENT FAKE!) and then it try's to get your password ect. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND you change your password while your on Paypal after checking your history as I did. Thank you. Sincerely Don Merchant __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Southwest Airlines Meteorite Hunting Article
Greetings list members: I have a couple of the Southwest Airlines SPIRIT September 2006 magazines with the article about Meteorite Hunter Michael Farmer. If you are interested in one let me know off list. I'll ship to US destinations for $5, but sorry, no International mailings. Juris Breikss [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: non-ebay Iron Remnants a little historical ebay
Good evening list, Chladnis Heirs nuzzled in their boxes and found some nice but lonely iron slices, which should be moved before the Munich show: 2 rare Aussies: WARBURTON RANGE Western Australia, Australia Find 1963 Tkw 57kg Ni-rich ataxite, IVB 34.1g 74mm x 43mm x 1.5 mm 700$ GUNDARING Western Australia, Australia Find May 1937 Tkw 112,5kg Coarse Octahedrite (1.4mm) IIIAB 32.3g 69mm x 44mm x 1.5mm 640$ A classic fall, cheaply priced: UDEI STATION Benue river, Nigeria Fall spring 1927 Tkw 102.5kg Medium octahedrite with silicates IAB 55.2g 56mm x 56mm x 4 mm 300$ (5.5$/g - that stuff sells on dealer's pages at 7 - 15$/g, on ebay also at 15$, right Mirko?) Furthermore SANTIAGO PAPASQUIERO Durango, Mexiko Find 1958 Tkw 119.5kg ungrouped ataxite, UNGR 29.1g62mm x 38mm x 2 mm 250$ Ha, and I thought we had sold all, just repatriated the large slice to the museum in Ste.Genevieve, but we forgot about a little last one, hence last chance! St.Genevieve County one of only 8 IIIF. 19.06grams 44mm x 22mm x 2.5mm 12$/g Furthermore because they sold so extremely fast and some were sad that they missed out, we cut a few more budget-sized partslices of BOGUSLAVKA. 20$/g for 10grams, 25$/g for 10grams Don't hesitate to long. 7.51g 29mm x 11mm x 4mm 9.29g 19mm x 16mm x4mm (without rimcrust) 10.22g23mm x19mm x 4mm 29.74g53mm x 24mm x 4mm Finally for the ebaymicro afficionados: In 2 hours are ending a nice slice of DRAKE CREEK The 5th US-Fall! Small tkw. And the also difficult to get AIR Felt in 1925 in Niger You'll find them here: http://search.ebay.de/_W0QQsassZnord_steinQQhtZ-1 Best! Chladni's Heirs Hamburg - Berlin - Munich __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Paypal Hackers WARNING!!!
Hi Dave, Don and all, I have been forwarding these malicious attempts at fraud to ebay for the last couple of years. eBay will send you a form letter stating they are looking into it, then another email stating it isn't from them (or paypal) and have turned it over to the proper authorities. I somehow doubt that they are turning it over to investigators as there seems to be a never ending stream of these attempts over and over again. Seems like sooner or later they would be leery of trying to get information the same way after others were investigated or arrested. I've never been told that someone trying to attempt this type of fraud on me was sentenced or anything remotely like that. I would be willing to bet that I have forward more than a thousand such similar attempts and eBay will only send information that tells you how to avoid spoof emails. This is a serious thing that they shouldn't rest until they are able to improve things. Someone once said that eBay really only cares about making money. Nothing wrong with that but their customer service, rating system and prosecution of criminals that try to take advantage of their format is sadly lacking. Safest bet is always go directly to the official site (don't click on emails) and check emails and paypal accounts directly to avoid major trouble. --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites www.Mitterling.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Duck Chondrule
Hi Walter and all, Still a classic webpage under IMCA's domain and one people should visit when they can! --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites www.Mitterling.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Paypal Hackers WARNING!!!
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 11:41:57 -0600, you wrote: Dear List; I have been studying issues first hand on hacking via the Internet Explorer versus other browsers...Firefox is much more secure and less hackable. Every common crook has figured out how to hack into IE thus making it much easier for them to open the door to your accounts.I rarely use IE, use Navigator for my emails and weather/news, and use Firefox for my eBay and paypal accounts. No web browser is safe from scams that rely on user error. These type e-mails give you a link to a look-alike site and get you to enter your username and password yourself. The solution to this problem (which all e-mail safety tips have been screaming at everyone for years) is NEVER click on a link sent to you from anyone claiming to be an on-line service. NEVER. If you have a legitimate issue from whatever the service is, you will be able to resolve it by going to the home page of the web site and then logging on to your account from there. Again, NEVER follow links sent in unexpected e-mails no matter how good it looks. Also, another good idea is to not have any type of HTML or any other type of executible elements active in your e-mail client. I use plain text e-mail and refuse to switch to anything else. Which means that I am at exactly zero risk from any type of virus, worm, HTML trick, Active-X doohickey, or anything else sent by e-mail that is the source of most virus problems (I say most without checking the actual statistics on this, so most may mean not most). When I get an e-mail (from a company or an individual) that is encoded in HTML I delete it unread. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
AW: [meteorite-list] Duck Chondrule
In Germany we do it the Divelbiss-style in feeding ducky chondrulists. http://search.ebay.de/_W0QQsassZpardelmopsQQhtZ-1 It's to silly to translate, a persiflage on an incredible stupid, but nevertheless impertinent fake seller: http://cgi.ebay.de/Chondrite-7000-J-Dreifacher-Einschl-Meteoriten-Regen_W0QQ itemZ160036406384QQihZ006QQcategoryZ44608QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.de/Mars-Chondrite-7000-Jahre-alt-Fundo-SAAR-LOR-LUX_W0QQitem Z160037722289QQihZ006QQcategoryZ44608QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.de/Chondrite-7000-Jahre-erstarrten-Chondritentropfen_W0QQite mZ160037725780QQihZ006QQcategoryZ44608QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Buckleboo! Martin __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Paypal Hackers WARNING!!!
Hi Darren and List If you'll read ebay's page on spoof mail you'll note that ebay and paypal will never put a link for you to use within the msg where you have to log in. They will tell you to go to the site and sign in instead. This is what makes it different and easy to spot. Delete or report, either way, you don't fall for them. I do agree that ebay isn't doing anything that will cost them money or lawyer time. Best you can hope for is that they turn over the links to an agency which is already paid to chase criminals, which I doubt they do either. Mark Ferguson - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dave Freeman mjwy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Paypal Hackers WARNING!!! On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 11:41:57 -0600, you wrote: Dear List; I have been studying issues first hand on hacking via the Internet Explorer versus other browsers...Firefox is much more secure and less hackable. Every common crook has figured out how to hack into IE thus making it much easier for them to open the door to your accounts.I rarely use IE, use Navigator for my emails and weather/news, and use Firefox for my eBay and paypal accounts. No web browser is safe from scams that rely on user error. These type e-mails give you a link to a look-alike site and get you to enter your username and password yourself. The solution to this problem (which all e-mail safety tips have been screaming at everyone for years) is NEVER click on a link sent to you from anyone claiming to be an on-line service. NEVER. If you have a legitimate issue from whatever the service is, you will be able to resolve it by going to the home page of the web site and then logging on to your account from there. Again, NEVER follow links sent in unexpected e-mails no matter how good it looks. Also, another good idea is to not have any type of HTML or any other type of executible elements active in your e-mail client. I use plain text e-mail and refuse to switch to anything else. Which means that I am at exactly zero risk from any type of virus, worm, HTML trick, Active-X doohickey, or anything else sent by e-mail that is the source of most virus problems (I say most without checking the actual statistics on this, so most may mean not most). When I get an e-mail (from a company or an individual) that is encoded in HTML I delete it unread. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone out there hunting the possible Coloradofall?
It isn't so much a question of where it fell as it is of where they fell. This event was basically a Peekskill clone, with debris fragmenting off for 75 or 100 miles. I've updated my report at http://www.cloudbait.com/science/fireball20061001.html to include a more accurate ground path, including details of what was falling off where. I've also listed some likely places to look, but as you note, the possible area is huge. I'd very roughly estimate the parent size to be on the order of 50 cm diameter, with a mass of several tons. That's quite sufficient to produce several kilograms of meteorites, especially given the extremely low speed (13.5 km/s) and virtually horizontal trajectory. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone out there hunting the possible Coloradofall? I haven't heard of anyone hunting for it yet. But then, did you look at a map? It supposedly fell somewhere between Alamosa and Colorado Springs, that means you have the Sand Dunes, a good chunk of the Sangre de Christo Mountains and most of Pikes Peak to search. Lots of rocks and lots of vegetation. And most of those mountains are supposed to get some snow tonight. Any other comments from Colorado? Mike? Larry? Fred? Anne M. Black __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list]TUCSON AUCTION 2007
Greetings all Meteorite friends, I am starting to get inquiries, so, just the bare bones info on the Tucson Auction 2007: -- FOR BIDDERS: - Oct 31: On line Catalog with all information - Auction for 2007 is Sat, Feb. 3, same time, same place (VFW Hall on Beverly) lectures by SWMC from 6 to 7PM - All items will be on display by 6:30PM at the latest. - Bidding opens at 7:30PM sharp - Bidders MUST sign in in person no one can sign in for anyone else buyers will be processed afterwords in the order they signed in, HOWEVER, I am arranging to have 2 and preferably 3 people taking payment from buyers after the bidding and one person taking payment during the auction, itself, for those who only want one or two items and then wish to leave. This should get everyone done in 30 to 40% of the time previously required. More information will be provided when the on- line catalog goes up Oct. 31. FOR SELLERS: It is that time of year! Time to submit items for the Tucson Auction. As such, you are aware that each of the last several years the auction has grown in terms of numbers attending, quality of items submitted and fun had by all. In addition, there has been a consistent increase in profitability for placing quality items in the auction, therefore, I now accept only pieces of quality for the auction. This year I am looking to present an even more impressive array of quality meteorite specimens and a similarly more impressive on-line catalog. To do this, I need anyone wishing to offer items to submit your list and photographs of high quality items in a timely manor. Particularly popular are historic falls, whatever the size, and the rarer, the more action generated. (as per the excellent responses the last couple of years to the exemplary entries of Martin Horejsi). Super rare classifications, such as the submissions of Adam and Greg Hupe also bring a strong response and of course the super beautiful specimens, such as those submitted by Eric Twelker in recent years also earn strong responses from the bidding crowd. My overhead TRIPLED since last year (and is now more than 10 times my cost the first couple of years), but I am determined to continue to attract the highest quality material so, in an attempt to keep everyone's costs at a minimum, I am continuing to keep the commission for auction sales at only 10% under the following conditions: People submitting an items by Oct. 15 - this includes high quality digital photos of their items. Furthermore, this 10% fee is reserved for items submitted for the on line catalog by Oct. 15th AND brought to the auction by the seller between 5 and 6:30 pm the day of the auction (Sat, Feb.3, 2007). There will be no exceptions. People bringing items into the auction after 6:30 PM will be automatically be charged 15% of sale price (even if they made the on line catalog deadline of Oct. 15). Therefore, please be sure to sign your contract prior to 6:30 PM. People giving me their items to bring for them (whether at the show or via mail) will pay a 20% commission. People submitting items for the catalog after Oct. 15 will be charged 15% commission and 20% if they fail to deliver the items at the auction by 6:30 PM. All submissions which are accepted by Oct. 15 will receive free advertising in the on line auction catalog. Submissions after that date are negotiable. Last minute submissions (the day of the auction) will be charged 20% if accepted and those submitted after 6:30 PM the day of the auction will be charged 25%. Day of auction submissions must be of the highest possible quality to gain acceptance. Any and all submissions at any time are subject to approval based on quality and having a low or no minimum bid. There will never be a hidden reserve on any item in my auctions. Since payment by credit card has become common at the auction, US sellers will be mailed full payment within 10 days of the auction. If payment is needed before that time, this needs to be negotiated in advance. Overseas sellers will be paid immediately after the auction or in their rooms the next day if they are at Inn Suites unless they have a particularly high priced item that sells by credit card. This is also an option for US sellers who have a dealer room at Inn Suites at which they want to meet me. Payment the night of the auction should be arranged in advance and is discouraged unless circumstances absolutely require it. Besides the credit card payments, this is to make for a shorter night and in that respect, I am working on having 2 or 3 people to accept payment from buyers after the bidding closes and one person to accept payment during the auction from bidders who were there for only one or two items and who want to leave after their purchase. This should dramatically streamline
[meteorite-list] Pluto for sale?????????
Hi list, is there somebody selling Pluto or did I miss something http://cgi.ebay.com/Dwarf-Planet-Pluto_W0QQitemZ120037050662 perplexed Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Paypal Hackers WARNING!!!
Hi, As much as it pains me to defend the eBay eMpire, they do DO something about crooks who think eBay is deaf, dumb, and blind. Some months ago, I bought a used DVD from an eBay seller with thousands of feedbacks, 99+% positive, paid with PayPal. Got the usual post-sale messages, including a note from the seller that he would ship within two days. About three days later, I got an unsolicited email from PayPal telling me I should immediately go to their site and make a claim against the seller for the return of my money. No reason given. A check of eBay showed that seller had utterly vanished; no record of them. I filed the claim, and in two weeks, the money was back in my PayPal account. I have no idea what happened or why. I just know that eBay/PayPal came out of the blue and remedied a problem I didn't even know existed. I hadn't even expected the DVD to arrive yet. My guess is that he was selling stolen merchandise. Second example: One evening, very late at night, I was sifting through eBay Search and came across an expensive electronic item at a very, very low price that intrigued me enough to click on it. It was a just-started (15 minutes previously) one-day auction. Since the obvious sales strategy for such an item would be a longer auction, I clicked on View Seller's Other Items and found 110 one-day auctions for items with retail costs from $4000 and up, all to be shipped by Free FedEx 2-Day Air from a named East Coast US city and all starting at $79. Most of them would have cost more than that to ship. I looked at the seller's feedback history. Years long, 100% positive. The problem was that all he'd ever sold was used children's clothing and he was located in the Isle of Lewis, in the Hebrides, off the west coast of Scotland. There was, to put it mildly, a mis-match there. I deduced a hijacked identity by somebody who was fencing a truckload of high-end electronics, possibly also hijacked. Several items were photographed sitting on the tailgate of a big truck. I emailed the seller (to the off-eBay email address he gave in the auctions) with a naive querry about one of the auctions: is this item new? used? refurbished? In five minutes, I got a reply from the seller offering a Buy It Now price of $1000, to be paid as soon as possible by Western Union money order. I was already typing up all these findings as I made them, as a text file, so I immediately sent it to whatever generic address on eBay that says to report possible fraud. I doubted that they'd get to it that night; maybe in the morning... About 10 minutes later I went back to look at that auction again. It was closed. All those auctions were closed, and the rest of the page was filled with various warnings saying NOT to communicate with a seller outside of the eBay system, NOT to use Western Union or other instant pay systems to pay for items, especially when solicited to do so by the seller. In all, these 110 auctions lasted for less than an hour on eBay. Was I the first to notice them? Or the 100th? Had eBay already found them? For whatever reason, eBay's performance was excellent. Their response time was measured in minutes, not hours, not days. HOWEVER, they do not talk about what they do! Or how they do it, or even admit that they do anything beyond a bland statement that they make all possible effort. The often-expressed sentiment that they don't care and don't do anything is just not correct. They just don't brag about it. Sorry for the long stories, but it doesn't mean much without all those details! Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteoritelist Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Paypal Hackers WARNING!!! Hi Darren and List If you'll read ebay's page on spoof mail you'll note that ebay and paypal will never put a link for you to use within the msg where you have to log in. They will tell you to go to the site and sign in instead. This is what makes it different and easy to spot. Delete or report, either way, you don't fall for them. I do agree that ebay isn't doing anything that will cost them money or lawyer time. Best you can hope for is that they turn over the links to an agency which is already paid to chase criminals, which I doubt they do either. Mark Ferguson - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dave Freeman mjwy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Paypal Hackers WARNING!!! On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 11:41:57 -0600, you wrote: Dear List; I have been studying issues first hand on hacking via the Internet Explorer versus other browsers...Firefox is much more secure and less hackable. Every common crook has figured out how to hack into IE thus making it much easier
Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto for sale?????????
This auction is a FRAUD! I have the genuine ownership certificate for Pluto, and I'm not selling! Cheers, Pete From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto for sale? Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 17:03:57 -0500 Hi, You can buy land on the Moon. You can buy land on Mars. But this is the first time I've seen an entire planet up for sale! Apparently the seller is not enterprising enough to parcel the planet up into lots like the Moon and Mars sellers and sell the planet piecemeal. There's a lot more money to be made by subdividing! Pluto has 17,950,000 square kilometers, almost twice the area of Europe or the US; it's well worth subdividing. The text of the auction doesn't mention Charon, but since it's shown in one of the pictures, I assume it's included in the sale. It's a bargain price! Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: Stefan Brandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 3:38 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Pluto for sale? Hi list, is there somebody selling Pluto or did I miss something http://cgi.ebay.com/Dwarf-Planet-Pluto_W0QQitemZ120037050662 perplexed Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Buy, Load, Play. The new Sympatico / MSN Music Store works seamlessly with Windows Media Player. Just Click PLAY. http://musicstore.sympatico.msn.ca/content/viewer.aspx?cid=SMS_Sept192006 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Meteorite Sale
Hello Friends, I have added a few meteorites and more space hardware to my page including a nice 52g unclassified achondrite and a rare artifact from Project Gemini. I have also reduced many prices for quick sale: www.Astro-Artifacts.com Thanks for looking! Kind regards, Mike Bandli __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] PolandMET reactivation...
I also would like to congratulate Marcin for finally getting access to Paypal in Poland. For those on the list who have not had the pleasure of dealing with Marcin he does a really nice job of preparation on his material. He's also efficient, ships orders right away, and has a really clever way of packaging material for safe shipment. Keep up the good work, Marcin, Jim Baxter __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto for sale?????????
Will he ship or do I have to pick it up in person? -Walter - Original Message - From: Stefan Brandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 4:38 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Pluto for sale? Hi list, is there somebody selling Pluto or did I miss something http://cgi.ebay.com/Dwarf-Planet-Pluto_W0QQitemZ120037050662 perplexed Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto for sale?????????
On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 20:54:13 -0400, you wrote: Will he ship or do I have to pick it up in person? According to the auction, shipping was $9.20. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto for sale?????????
Hi, Rob, The auction closed without a bid. Pluto didn't sell! Well, they say the real estate market is getting soft... If you squat on Pluto, I suspect you'll still be firmly bum-welded to the Ninth Planet when the first Survey Team arrives in the next century! By then, you'll likely be glad to be evicted. Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Rob McCafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pete Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto for sale? Hehe! Nice one! But I'm on board the Express and will be arriving there in 2015. I intend to squat! Wonder how you plan to evict me! R McC --- Pete Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This auction is a FRAUD! I have the genuine ownership certificate for Pluto, and I'm not selling! Cheers, Pete From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto for sale? Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 17:03:57 -0500 Hi, You can buy land on the Moon. You can buy land on Mars. But this is the first time I've seen an entire planet up for sale! Apparently the seller is not enterprising enough to parcel the planet up into lots like the Moon and Mars sellers and sell the planet piecemeal. There's a lot more money to be made by subdividing! Pluto has 17,950,000 square kilometers, almost twice the area of Europe or the US; it's well worth subdividing. The text of the auction doesn't mention Charon, but since it's shown in one of the pictures, I assume it's included in the sale. It's a bargain price! Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: Stefan Brandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 3:38 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Pluto for sale? Hi list, is there somebody selling Pluto or did I miss something http://cgi.ebay.com/Dwarf-Planet-Pluto_W0QQitemZ120037050662 perplexed Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Buy, Load, Play. The new Sympatico / MSN Music Store works seamlessly with Windows Media Player. Just Click PLAY. http://musicstore.sympatico.msn.ca/content/viewer.aspx?cid=SMS_Sept192006 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Large Asteroid Impact 200 Million Years Ago May Have Helped Dinosaurs Dominate The Earth
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2394026,00.html T Rex was born in the Irish Sea, say scientists Roger Dobson The Sunday Times (United Kingdom) October 8, 2006 A HUGE meteorite that hit the Irish Sea and left a crater the size of Surrey may have helped giant dinosaurs come to dominate the planet, scientists have claimed. The researchers, who have analysed rock formations in the British Isles and France, believe the impact caused a tsunami that swamped large parts of Europe. They argue the meteor strike 200m years ago and others like it may have led to changes in the Earth's climate that caused some species to die out and others to dominate. It has long been argued that the extinction of the dinosaurs 65m years ago was caused by a massive asteroid strike. But scientists have wondered why dinosaurs, which had previously been relatively puny, began to develop into giants such as Tyrannosaurus rex about 200m years ago. One theory is that increases in carbon dioxide in the atmosphere led to bigger plants, which encouraged the development of bigger herbivores and then a growth in the size of predators. Other scientists claim an impact by a meteor may account for the relative suddenness of the change. There was a relatively sudden increase in the size of dinosaurs around the time we have dated this impact, said Michael Simms, curator of paleontology at the Ulster Museum in Belfast who led the research. This impact may well have been a factor in the changes that were going on. Simms' team found evidence of the shock probably caused by a meteorite, which may have been up to two miles wide and hit at 18,000mph, in data from boreholes and rock formations covering 100,000 square miles. They have not found the crater itself, but they believe the meteor may have hit what is now St George's Channel, between Pembrokeshire and the Irish coast. Much of western Britain and Ireland was under water at the time. The crater may have been more than 30 miles wide but would now be deeply buried beneath the sea floor. In the research, published in an academic journal, Simms looked for signs of impact rippling out from the crater in sediment that would have been affected by the shockwave. He analysed rock and borehole data and found the same unique pattern at every site he looked at, from Northern Ireland to Yorkshire and Dorset. Paul Barrett, a paleontologist at the Natural History Museum in London, said Simms' theory was an interesting idea. This is the first geological suggestion that there was an impact at this time. What we really want to back this up is a crater of the right age. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Astronomers Unite To Use Hawaii PS1 Telescope
http://www.ifa.hawaii.edu/info/press-releases/PS1_consortium/ Astronomers unite to use Hawaii telescope University of Hawaii Press Release October 3, 2006 Astronomers from several major research institutions around the world have signed an agreement with astronomers at the University of Hawaii to make use of a revolutionary new survey telescope on Haleakala on the island of Maui. The PS1 telescope is expected to discover billions of new stars, galaxies and solar system objects, including potential killer asteroids that threaten Earth. It will also produce the most detailed three-dimensional map of the Universe ever made. Over 30 world-renowned scientists and their graduate students have committed themselves to analyzing the unprecedented flood of data from PS1 over the next three and half years. We decided to recruit a number of top astronomers to join us in order to make the best use of this fantastic instrument, said University of Hawaii's Kenneth Chambers who, as project scientist, is responsible for carrying out the PS1 survey. We are delighted to have assembled a powerful consortium that includes the prestigious Max Planck Society in Germany, Harvard University, Johns Hopkins University, and the Las Cumbres Observatory in the USA, plus Durham University, University of, Edinburgh, and Queen's University Belfast in the United Kingdom, said Rolf Kudritzki, director of UH's Institute for Astronomy. The PS1 Science Consortium will contribute about $10 million to cover the cost of operating the telescope in Hawaii. Pan-STARRS is the next critical step in mapping the Universe. Our scientists are eagerly awaiting the first data for a large range of astronomical projects, said Harvard Professor of Cosmology John Huchra. The PS1 telescope has been developed by astronomers at the University of Hawaii. It is the first stage of the Panoramic Survey Telescope and Rapid Response System (Pan-STARRS) project, which is the brainchild of IfA's Nick Kaiser. The telescope, which has a 71-inch diameter mirror, achieved first light in June this year. It is currently undergoing engineering tests and will become fully operational in 2007. It will soon be equipped with the world's largest digital camera, now under construction at the UH Institute for Astronomy's Manoa headquarters under the leadership of John Tonry. The camera will have 1.4 billion pixels--about 300 times as many as a typical commercial digital camera. More information: * Pan-STARRS project http://pan-starrs.ifa.hawaii.edu/public/ * University of Hawaii, Institute for Astronomy http://www.ifa.hawaii.edu/ * Max Planck Society http://www.mpg.de/english/portal/index.html; institutes in Garching http://www.mpe-garching.mpg.de/ and in Heidelburg http://www.mpia.de/Public/menu-e.php * The Johns Hopkins University, Dept. of Physics and Astronomy http://physics.jhu.edu/ * Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/ * Las Cumbres Observatory http://www.lcogt.net/ * Durham University, Extragalactic Astronomy Cosmology Research Group http://www.astro.dur.ac.uk/Cosmology/ * University of Edinburgh, Institute for Astronomy http://www.roe.ac.uk/ifa/ * Queen's University Belfast, Astrophysics Research Center http://star.pst.qub.ac.uk/ The Institute for Astronomy at the University of Hawaii conducts research into galaxies, cosmology, stars, planets, and the sun. Its faculty and staff are also involved in astronomy education, deep space missions, and in the development and management of the observatories on Haleakala and Mauna Kea. Established in 1907 and fully accredited by the Western Association of Schools and Colleges, the University of Hawaii is the state's sole public system of higher education. The UH System provides an array of undergraduate, graduate, and professional degrees and community programs on 10 campuses and through educational, training, and research centers across the state. UH enrolls more than 50,000 students from Hawaii, the U.S. mainland, and around the world. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Students Save Earth From Asteroid in Space Foundation Virtual Lab
http://news.spacefoundation.org/printable.cfm?releaseid=1911D92F-C675-47C1-AF067B503010DFCF FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Students save Earth from asteroid in Space Foundation virtual lab Space Foundation October 5, 2006 Contact: Stephanie Fibbs Manager, Communications Media Relations 719-576-8000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (Oct. 5, 2006) This week the Space Foundation debuted Asteroid Challenge, Target: Earth, a virtual lab and video science education program featuring the real asteroid Apophis. Third grade students from Manitou Springs Elementary School in Colorado were the first class nationwide to participate in this interactive science program and use scientific methods in a virtual lab to save our planet from destruction by Apophis, now on a path that could bring it dangerously close to colliding with Earth in 2036. The release of the lab follows the Oct. 3 premiere of NOVA scienceNow on PBS, which also addressed near-Earth asteroids, including Apophis. Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson is both the host of NOVA scienceNow and featured in Asteroid Challenge, Target: Earth. Tyson is a Space Foundation board member, astrophysicist, and director of the Hayden Planetarium in the Rose Center for Earth and Space at the American Museum of Natural History in New York City. Scientists tell us the asteroid Apophis could pose a real threat to Earth, said Space Foundation Senior Vice President of Education and Workforce Development Dr. Patricia Arnold. 'Asteroid Challenge, Target: Earth' engages the next generation of scientists, mathematicians, and engineers who will be responsible for developing and implementing an effective solution to this real life situation and problem. This virtual lab is an educational and fun program that has relevance to students while improving their science and math skills. Using the virtual lab, students study asteroid composition and orbital mechanics and conduct virtual experiments to determine the trajectory of Apophis and how to divert it away from Earth's orbit, choosing from among such options as exploding it, attaching a solar sail to push it away, and using a gravitational tugboat method to pull it out of harm's way. Manitou Springs Elementary School third grade teacher and Space Foundation Teacher Liaison Christi Marquardt led her class in the nationwide debut of this interactive science program Wednesday, Oct 4. Created in collaboration with SpaceClass, the virtual lab uses the excitement of space to teach students essential concepts of science and math. Asteroid Challenge, Target: Earth is available online at http://Education.SpaceFoundation.org/Apophis. The Space Foundation has trained more than 40,000 teachers since 1986 through its Summer Institute graduate courses and national conferences. In addition, the Space Foundation fosters educational space endeavors by implementing its revolutionary Integrated Science Literacy Model; offering two distinct Master's in Space Studies Degrees in conjunction with the University of Colorado at Colorado Springs and Regis University; sponsoring a Teacher Liaison program; annually conducting the Space Career Fair; managing the onsite NASA Educational Resource Center; and offering a free online lesson bank for educators. About the Space Foundation Founded in 1983 and headquartered in Colorado Springs, the Space Foundation is a national nonprofit organization that vigorously advances civil, commercial, and national security space endeavors and inspires, enables, and propels tomorrow's explorers. The Space Foundation has offices in Washington, D.C., and Cape Canaveral, Fla. Along with partnering organizations, the Space Foundation conducts Strategic Space and Defense, 10-12 Oct. 2006 in Omaha, Neb. The Space Foundation's signature event, the National Space Symposium, is scheduled for April 9-12, 2007, at The Broadmoor in Colorado Springs, Colo. For more information, visit www.SpaceFoundation.org http://www.SpaceFoundation.org. ### __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Paypal Hackers WARNING!!!
Hi List, Strongly agree with Mark. The Services (Ebay, Paypal, etc..) have a strict hands off approach to this kind of fraud. They are protecting their interests and provide nothing but a bunch of lip service against these scams, with emphasis as to what You should do to protect yourself against being ripped off. I run a systems security business in MA., and I can tell you first hand that you will never get any satisfaction from pursuing the service providers when you get scammed. The best protection is education and attention to the age old advise that starts with: If it appears to good to be true. This kind of stuff has been going on ever since print could be published. Now, with identity protected sourcing in a ubiquitous electronic sales media, there is no one to protect you except yourself. Buying on the internet is a gamble. A calculated risk assessment should be done any time you want to deal there. There is one good piece of buying advice, if you have the option. If your seller accepts an American Express card, then by all means use that over anything else. They protect you, the buyer, more than any other financial organization out there, even if your card gets compromized. (In fact, if you use AMEX on PAYPAL and have an issue, go directly to AMEX and forget the Paypal runaround.) CharlyV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 5:54 PM To: Sterling K. Webb Cc: meteoritelist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Paypal Hackers WARNING!!! Hi Sterling The fact that they stop auctions and warn off sellers and can maneuver (freeze) paypal accounts doesn't mean they go after the frauds. They are just controlling what they can cheaply do with a phone call or email. I'm sorry to inform you I was called by a detective who got scant little help from ebay on building a case against a formerly good and then went bad seller. The case was opened by a ripped off buyer, not ebay, and was started in Montana and not So Cal where the seller had been. The fact is they don't hurt themselves and the bottom line in criminal activities is the bottom line. They try to help you before it becomes a problem, then they fall back on all the policies they have to stop spending any money themselves. Mark Ferguson - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Paypal Hackers WARNING!!! Hi, As much as it pains me to defend the eBay eMpire, they do DO something about crooks who think eBay is deaf, dumb, and blind. Some months ago, I bought a used DVD from an eBay seller with thousands of feedbacks, 99+% positive, paid with PayPal. Got the usual post-sale messages, including a note from the seller that he would ship within two days. About three days later, I got an unsolicited email from PayPal telling me I should immediately go to their site and make a claim against the seller for the return of my money. No reason given. A check of eBay showed that seller had utterly vanished; no record of them. I filed the claim, and in two weeks, the money was back in my PayPal account. I have no idea what happened or why. I just know that eBay/PayPal came out of the blue and remedied a problem I didn't even know existed. I hadn't even expected the DVD to arrive yet. My guess is that he was selling stolen merchandise. Second example: One evening, very late at night, I was sifting through eBay Search and came across an expensive electronic item at a very, very low price that intrigued me enough to click on it. It was a just-started (15 minutes previously) one-day auction. Since the obvious sales strategy for such an item would be a longer auction, I clicked on View Seller's Other Items and found 110 one-day auctions for items with retail costs from $4000 and up, all to be shipped by Free FedEx 2-Day Air from a named East Coast US city and all starting at $79. Most of them would have cost more than that to ship. I looked at the seller's feedback history. Years long, 100% positive. The problem was that all he'd ever sold was used children's clothing and he was located in the Isle of Lewis, in the Hebrides, off the west coast of Scotland. There was, to put it mildly, a mis-match there. I deduced a hijacked identity by somebody who was fencing a truckload of high-end electronics, possibly also hijacked. Several items were photographed sitting on the tailgate of a big truck. I emailed the seller (to the off-eBay email address he gave in the auctions) with a naive querry about one of the auctions: is this item new? used? refurbished? In five minutes, I got a reply from the seller offering a Buy It Now price of $1000, to be paid as soon as possible by Western Union money order.
[meteorite-list] Three weekends, Three strewn feilds....... Some really cool Space Rocks!!
Hi All, Holbrook, Glorieta and Red Lake(OK technically Red Lake probably isn't much of a strewn field but you get the picture.) A few weekends ago I hunted Holbrook with some good friends and great hunters, John Blennart, Bill Southern, and Earl Hammond. We did O.K. and found some cool little extra terrestrial stones. Here's a link to some pictures of that hunt. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/meteoritemall/album?.dir=9ec1re2.src=phstore=prodid=.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/meteoritemall/my_photos Then last weekend on a spur of the moment jaunt up to Glorieta. Stan Wall, Earl Hammond, Jim Kriegh and Myself picked up a few Pallasites and Siderites! Here's a link to some pictures of that hunt. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/meteoritemall/album?.dir=c336re2.src=phstore=prodid=.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/meteoritemall/my_photos This weekend I was supposed to head up to Kingman Az. where I was going to spend most of the day buying, and trading meteorites with a friend. I finished up early so I decided to hit Red Lake. When I got there I thought I'd do something different and hunt an area I had never hit. A spot where as far as I know no meteorites have been found. To my surprise within 3 hours we found 3 meteorites! I had found two and my son found one. Here's a link to some pictures of that hunt. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/meteoritemall/album?.dir=f528re2.src=phstore=prodid=.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/meteoritemall/my_photos I think next week I'm gonna buy a lottery ticket..couldn't hurt right? Ruben Garcia __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Three weekends, Three strewn feilds....... Some really cool
Hi Everyone, this is really fantastic! Great job Ruben Jr.!! Way to go!! Great hunting! and keep up the finds! Best wishes, Moni From: Ruben Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Three weekends,Three strewn feilds... Some really cool Space Rocks!! Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 21:10:47 -0700 (PDT) Hi All, Holbrook, Glorieta and Red Lake(OK technically Red Lake probably isn't much of a strewn field but you get the picture.) A few weekends ago I hunted Holbrook with some good friends and great hunters, John Blennart, Bill Southern, and Earl Hammond. We did O.K. and found some cool little extra terrestrial stones. Here's a link to some pictures of that hunt. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/meteoritemall/album?.dir=9ec1re2.src=phstore=prodid=.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/meteoritemall/my_photos Then last weekend on a spur of the moment jaunt up to Glorieta. Stan Wall, Earl Hammond, Jim Kriegh and Myself picked up a few Pallasites and Siderites! Here's a link to some pictures of that hunt. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/meteoritemall/album?.dir=c336re2.src=phstore=prodid=.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/meteoritemall/my_photos This weekend I was supposed to head up to Kingman Az. where I was going to spend most of the day buying, and trading meteorites with a friend. I finished up early so I decided to hit Red Lake. When I got there I thought I'd do something different and hunt an area I had never hit. A spot where as far as I know no meteorites have been found. To my surprise within 3 hours we found 3 meteorites! I had found two and my son found one. Here's a link to some pictures of that hunt. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/meteoritemall/album?.dir=f528re2.src=phstore=prodid=.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/meteoritemall/my_photos I think next week I'm gonna buy a lottery ticket..couldn't hurt right? Ruben Garcia __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
