[meteorite-list] Podcast Meteor Showers
An enjoyable podcast... http://www.universetoday.com/2006/10/30/podcast-meteor-showers-yes-the-sky-is-falling/ http://www.universetoday.com/2006/10/30/podcast-meteor-showers-yes-the-sky-is-falling/ _ Find a local pizza place, music store, museum and more then map the best route! Check out Live Local today! http://local.live.com/?mkt=en-ca/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Re: America�s Greatest Meteorite Hunter
Good evening list, slight oversight, Rubin, should be Ruben, guess Bob might be dealing often with Alan Rubin. http://www.ess.ucla.edu/researchers/rubin/ Regards, Moni From: Robert Verish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteoritecentral List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Americas Greatest Meteorite Hunter Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 22:12:25 -0800 (PST) Just wanted to reply and say that I completely agree with Rubin. Americas Greatest Meteorite Hunter is Ivan Skip Wilson. rest of message trimmed _ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo005002msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Collector Card Series 2nd AD in 1 week
Adam Hupe wrote: Thanks Ed, Stonehenge was selected as an icon because it is a well-known ancient observatory where both the Lunar and Maritain cycles were witnessed among other celestial bodies. As a matter of fact, the table stone in the center of Stonehenge is used to track the Moon. I have had outside interest in mass producing a similar series but this simply isn't possible. There is no automated way of depositing the aliquot in the sample bay due to variability so this was done manually, a very time consuming process. Also, the scarcity of planetary material available to such a project would not allow for mass production. I priced all of the cards the same although my costs exceeded that of production in a few cases. The Artwork alone added a considerable amount to my costs. The nice thing is that I got a new logo out of the deal. I only produced 50 of each to see what happens. In all honesty, any revenue generated by this project will come no where near close to offsetting the costs of cutting loses. I just thought it would be a fun project and a good way to distribute small fragments/cutting dust in a presentable package. It took me over 5 years to collect sterile cutting dust or small fragments from 12 different planetary meteorites. It is the least expensive way for many to actually own a piece of the Moon or Mars, assemble an SNC set or own a piece of both the Highlands and Mare regions of the Moon plus I think they are cool! Take Care, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: New Collector Card Series 2nd AD in 1 week
I am going to chalk up these series of attacks to jealousy! Get a life! Adam - Original Message - From: David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:50 AM Subject: New Collector Card Series 2nd AD in 1 week Adam Hupe wrote: Thanks Ed, Stonehenge was selected as an icon because it is a well-known ancient observatory where both the Lunar and Maritain cycles were witnessed among other celestial bodies. As a matter of fact, the table stone in the center of Stonehenge is used to track the Moon. I have had outside interest in mass producing a similar series but this simply isn't possible. There is no automated way of depositing the aliquot in the sample bay due to variability so this was done manually, a very time consuming process. Also, the scarcity of planetary material available to such a project would not allow for mass production. I priced all of the cards the same although my costs exceeded that of production in a few cases. The Artwork alone added a considerable amount to my costs. The nice thing is that I got a new logo out of the deal. I only produced 50 of each to see what happens. In all honesty, any revenue generated by this project will come no where near close to offsetting the costs of cutting loses. I just thought it would be a fun project and a good way to distribute small fragments/cutting dust in a presentable package. It took me over 5 years to collect sterile cutting dust or small fragments from 12 different planetary meteorites. It is the least expensive way for many to actually own a piece of the Moon or Mars, assemble an SNC set or own a piece of both the Highlands and Mare regions of the Moon plus I think they are cool! Take Care, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - November 1, 2006
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[meteorite-list] (AD) Collector Card Series vs Chladni Casket series Pepsi vs Coke
Hiho list, the preparations for the Munich show are in full swing, first collectors and dealers arrived. Now I found the Hupe`s Collectors Cards advertised here and I can't understand the grief expressed about them by some voices, nor do we join the chorus, also we introduced 10 days ago our form of a collectors series with planetary material. www.chladnis-heirs.com/special.html You have to keep in mind, that those cards, like the Hupés produced, do not primarily address to the meteorite collectors audience, but they are qualified to arouse the interest of laymen, who will get so for the first time in contact with meteorites. Our job as dealers is not only to sell meteorites and to make money, to make accessible new and old localities and types to the established meteorite collectors, but also to reach people, who never heard about meteorites, to lead and guide newbies and new collectors to that field of collecting and to propagate and to popularize our fascinating hobby! Why do you thing e.g. Robert Haag is a living legend? Because he collected and sold meteorites? Certainly not, others do so too - but he was a showman, using all opportunities to transport his enthusiasm and the breathtaking aspect of meteorites. So what the heck is wrong with such funny cards? They are a nice gimmick, and it's obsolete to discuss, whether the cutting dust inside has a scientific relevance or of which collector's value such samples may be. The important thing is, that every layman, who will get such a card in his hands, certainly won't put in the drawer as it is, but will start to learn about meteorites and will try to find out more about the stuff, so that such a card can be the initial ignition to be a meteorite collector! Well, for those specialized collectors not content in receiving only some dust and for those don't having the humour to recognize, that not the dust, but the cards per se as curiosity are collectible items, there exist our Chladni-Cases, where we used substantial specimens to fill them. They are no cards, but real display boxes, containing samples, often with cut surfaces, which are more representative for the stone used. In this respect they certainly address not only to laymen, but also to meteorite collectors - and they'll offer the opportunity for the low and lowest budget collectors - and many of them lament, that meteorite collecting is an expensive passion - to assemble not only names and numbers squired by a few molecules of that find or fall, but to own at least a piece, wherefore they don't need a microscope to enjoy it, - to say it more simple: They are macroscopic micromounts. For laymen they are more attractive, cause with the different pictoral motives they're designed more eye-catching than bare membrane boxes or small gem cases - the sizes are standardized, so that the collector hasn't the problem to cope with boxes of different sizes and appearances and specimen- and description cards flying all around, but will be able to display his collection nicely and neatly. (We will offer later trays, into which one can stick the boxes and where one can store them easily or one can hang the trays on the walls for display). And depending on the success and the acceptance of that idea, we may issue collector's albums containing information about those meteorites or booklets with texts and pictures about those localities. Hey, that's fun! Thus a new and educative and inexpensive form of meteorite collecting is born. Additionally in collecting those Chladni-Cases of course one will have the extra-kick of all the typical mechanism of collecting, in keeping the collection complete, in filling the gaps, in trading and swapping ect. Now of course the moaners will jump out of the bushes and will scream and blame us to destroy the most beautiful specimens, pieces ect for the only purpose to satisfy our commercial greed. To those I have to say, that we are competent enough to preserve those specimens worthy to be preserved - and by the way those always being the first in pointing with the fingers on sellers of micromounts, are often exactly those, who, if one offer large sized slices or whole stones, will shrug their shoulders and never will buy, telling, oh it's to large for me or will suggest prices far below a dealer's buying price - as meteorite dealers would have the ethical obligation to work for no pay as Mothers Theresae. Anyway - the Hupes told you the amount of time and money to produce such nice little items - our boxes are handcrafted too, the boxes, the designed inlays do cost, to produce them is a job of enthusiasts and not of calculating economists. - Which you'll easily able to relate to, if you check the prices and the weights of the boxed samples. Btw that's the reason, why we don't have to fear plagiarism, cause producing such boxes isn't directly profitable. Money we make with larger pieces, to offer such sized and designed meteoritical collectibles is our service to the
[meteorite-list] Fake meteorites on ebay
Hello List, here are two hilarious links on ebay of a guy selling fake meteorites. It looks comic first but it's a way to tell people to verify what they buy on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=150051439544 and http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=150051439474 Pierre-Marie PELE www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com www.meteor-center.com ___ Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses http://fr.answers.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: (AD) Collector Card Series vs Chladni Casketseries Pepsi vs Coke
Martin wrote: Subject: [meteorite-list] (AD) Collector Card Series vs Chladni Casketseries Pepsi vs Coke Hi Martin, Casketseries? :-) Is this a post-Halloween commercial?!! I enter Chladni Clastics. Good luck to all of you with the Mortadellan meteorites (EU protected geographic label, IGP) ... I thought the cutting dirt was used to brew beer or send to underpriviledged Romanian orphans or something, :-( ... For the competition, it tolls better than Looney Dirt Caskets ... no true Lunaitic can leave home and live without one! Also you can distribute them to trick-or-treaters instead of delicious slices, la grassa can effectively form Chladni clastics in Mortadella di Bologna, or Moon Jello, so at night they can put them under a pillow at night and unknown to the innocents shall become possessed get a full Moon,,, Nyya ha ha ha ha ha ha hah ... anyway those are my marketing concepts ... Saludos or Suerte, Haro's Heirs - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:44 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] (AD) Collector Card Series vs Chladni Casketseries Pepsi vs Coke Hiho list, the preparations for the Munich show are in full swing, first collectors and dealers arrived. Now I found the Hupe`s Collectors Cards advertised here and I can't understand the grief expressed about them by some voices, nor do we join the chorus, also we introduced 10 days ago our form of a collectors series with planetary material. www.chladnis-heirs.com/special.html You have to keep in mind, that those cards, like the Hupés produced, do not primarily address to the meteorite collectors audience, but they are qualified to arouse the interest of laymen, who will get so for the first time in contact with meteorites. Our job as dealers is not only to sell meteorites and to make money, to make accessible new and old localities and types to the established meteorite collectors, but also to reach people, who never heard about meteorites, to lead and guide newbies and new collectors to that field of collecting and to propagate and to popularize our fascinating hobby! Why do you thing e.g. Robert Haag is a living legend? Because he collected and sold meteorites? Certainly not, others do so too - but he was a showman, using all opportunities to transport his enthusiasm and the breathtaking aspect of meteorites. So what the heck is wrong with such funny cards? They are a nice gimmick, and it's obsolete to discuss, whether the cutting dust inside has a scientific relevance or of which collector's value such samples may be. The important thing is, that every layman, who will get such a card in his hands, certainly won't put in the drawer as it is, but will start to learn about meteorites and will try to find out more about the stuff, so that such a card can be the initial ignition to be a meteorite collector! Well, for those specialized collectors not content in receiving only some dust and for those don't having the humour to recognize, that not the dust, but the cards per se as curiosity are collectible items, there exist our Chladni-Cases, where we used substantial specimens to fill them. They are no cards, but real display boxes, containing samples, often with cut surfaces, which are more representative for the stone used. In this respect they certainly address not only to laymen, but also to meteorite collectors - and they'll offer the opportunity for the low and lowest budget collectors - and many of them lament, that meteorite collecting is an expensive passion - to assemble not only names and numbers squired by a few molecules of that find or fall, but to own at least a piece, wherefore they don't need a microscope to enjoy it, - to say it more simple: They are macroscopic micromounts. For laymen they are more attractive, cause with the different pictoral motives they're designed more eye-catching than bare membrane boxes or small gem cases - the sizes are standardized, so that the collector hasn't the problem to cope with boxes of different sizes and appearances and specimen- and description cards flying all around, but will be able to display his collection nicely and neatly. (We will offer later trays, into which one can stick the boxes and where one can store them easily or one can hang the trays on the walls for display). And depending on the success and the acceptance of that idea, we may issue collector's albums containing information about those meteorites or booklets with texts and pictures about those localities. Hey, that's fun! Thus a new and educative and inexpensive form of meteorite collecting is born. Additionally in collecting those Chladni-Cases of course one will have the extra-kick of all the typical mechanism of collecting, in keeping the collection complete, in filling the gaps, in trading and swapping ect. Now of course the moaners will jump out of the bushes and will scream and blame us
[meteorite-list] NEW Lunar - NWA 4472 - Not Paired - AD
Dear List Members and Lunar Enthusiasts, I am very happy to announce a NEW and not paired lunar meteorite. It is NWA 4472 and is classified as a lunar Mare Basalt-Granitic Breccia. It has the very rare minerals tranquillityite and zircon, along with rare granitic clasts known in some Apollo mare breccias. Tranquillityite was first identified in the interstitial, last crystallizing regions (mesostasis) of Apollo 11 mare basalts. The Total Known Weight of NWA 4472 was just 64.3 grams in a single complete stone. After the type sample was submitted, cutting/polishing losses and leaving a sizable 35.3 gram main mass, there is not much available to collectors. I have just put all that is available on eBay, which is only 10 specimens, most with Buy it Now at a very reasonable rate considering the rare minerals, features and the low TKW, along with no other pairings. Be sure to read about its acquisition in the November 2006 issue of Meteorite Magazine! Here is a photo of the 35.3 gram Main Mass of 4472: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4472/nwa4472mainmass1.jpg Here are the direct links to the only available NWA 4472 specimens: 5.212 gram Complete Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180045853515rd=1rd=1 2.770 gram Complete Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180045856378rd=1rd=1 2.428 gram Complete Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180045857051rd=1rd=1 1.504 gram Complete Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180045868069rd=1rd=1 1.158 gram Complete Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180045869085rd=1rd=1 156mg Part Slice http://www.lunarrock.com/11-1/dsc6.jpg SOLD on eBay while loading the auctions! 72mg Part Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180045870090rd=1rd=1 12mg Part Slice (started at just 99 cents) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180045870519rd=1rd=1 12mg Part Slice (started at just 99 cents) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180045871273rd=1rd=1 18mg of Fragments (started at just 99 cents) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180045871895rd=1rd=1 Along with the above special offerings, here are some links to a new H4 I currently have on eBay that will end in a few hours: NEW - NWA 4443 H4 with wonderful colored chondrules (only 8 specimens available): 16.5 gram End Cut http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180043373614rd=1rd=1 12.5 gram Complete Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180043374638rd=1rd=1 10.4 gram Complete Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180043375121rd=1rd=1 10.3 gram Complete Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180043376092rd=1rd=1 9.4 gram Complete Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180043376560rd=1rd=1 9.2 gram Complete Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180043377879rd=1rd=1 1.3 gram Part Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180043378914rd=1rd=1 860mg End Cut (started at just 99 cents!) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180043379938rd=1rd=1 In addition to these new offerings, I also have ending today many wonderful meteorites still at just 99 cents, some of them planetary!! I also loaded a lot of Unclassified Saharan Individuals, 1-kilo Lots and a host of other very reasonably priced goodies. To see all that I have available, click on one of the above links and then click on View seller's other items. Thank You for looking and if you are bidding, Good Luck! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA 3163 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Google-Moon Lunar impact features and more
Dear List, For those wanting to study more about impact craters I am sending this link to the List. Enjoy! Sincerely, Dirk Ross..Tokyo http://moon.google.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Hi from cold and dreary Munich!
Hi all, I arrived in Munich this afternoon and will be at the show early tomorrow. I look forward to seeing all of my Europena customers again. Jim and I stopped by the Hofbrauhaus earlier for a beer, but now time to catch up on a few hours of sleep. Anyone coming here, it is supposed to SNOW tonight and tomorrow, so wear warm clothes! Pretty harsh for me, being that I left Tucson yesterday at over 80 degrees! Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Google-Moon Lunar impact features and more
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 11:21:10 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Dear List, For those wanting to study more about impact craters I am sending this link to the List. Enjoy! With Google Earth, you spend hours pouring over images trying to find impact craters. With Google Moon, you can spend hours trying to find spots WITHOUT an impact crater! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Someone doesn't care for Paypal!
Okay, it isn't directly meteorite related. But since so many of us use Paypal in the buying and selling of meteorites, I thought this would be of interest. http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_305004735.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Collector Card vs Casket
Hi - My take on this so far: On Hupe's cards, in as much as the dealers are clearly identified, and the dust's provenience, there is no doubt as to authenticity, and it is nice to see the vendors/finders/preparers recognized. The $95 dollar samples are nicely packaged for collectors, but too expensive for gifts to children. Moon and Mars dust in these packages would be fine. To those dealers who are jealous, remember that those children are likely to be your customers when they grow up. Also, I would like to remind everyone of Nininger's bubble books which he sold from his shop at Barringer Crater. Who here would not like to have one of those today? (I keep dreaming that some day I'll show up at a yardsale, and one of them will be sitting there for me unrecognized.) It's nice to know that something similar exists for children (and the young at heart) today. I think this is a very good development, my best wishes to all in their new ventures, and good hunting, Ed --- MexicoDoug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin wrote: Subject: [meteorite-list] (AD) Collector Card Series vs Chladni Casketseries Pepsi vs Coke Hi Martin, Casketseries? :-) Is this a post-Halloween commercial?!! I enter Chladni Clastics. Good luck to all of you with the Mortadellan meteorites (EU protected geographic label, IGP) ... I thought the cutting dirt was used to brew beer or send to underpriviledged Romanian orphans or something, :-( ... For the competition, it tolls better than Looney Dirt Caskets ... no true Lunaitic can leave home and live without one! Also you can distribute them to trick-or-treaters instead of delicious slices, la grassa can effectively form Chladni clastics in Mortadella di Bologna, or Moon Jello, so at night they can put them under a pillow at night and unknown to the innocents shall become possessed get a full Moon,,, Nyya ha ha ha ha ha ha hah ... anyway those are my marketing concepts ... Saludos or Suerte, Haro's Heirs - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:44 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] (AD) Collector Card Series vs Chladni Casketseries Pepsi vs Coke Hiho list, the preparations for the Munich show are in full swing, first collectors and dealers arrived. Now I found the Hupe`s Collectors Cards advertised here and I can't understand the grief expressed about them by some voices, nor do we join the chorus, also we introduced 10 days ago our form of a collectors series with planetary material. www.chladnis-heirs.com/special.html You have to keep in mind, that those cards, like the Hupés produced, do not primarily address to the meteorite collectors audience, but they are qualified to arouse the interest of laymen, who will get so for the first time in contact with meteorites. Our job as dealers is not only to sell meteorites and to make money, to make accessible new and old localities and types to the established meteorite collectors, but also to reach people, who never heard about meteorites, to lead and guide newbies and new collectors to that field of collecting and to propagate and to popularize our fascinating hobby! Why do you thing e.g. Robert Haag is a living legend? Because he collected and sold meteorites? Certainly not, others do so too - but he was a showman, using all opportunities to transport his enthusiasm and the breathtaking aspect of meteorites. So what the heck is wrong with such funny cards? They are a nice gimmick, and it's obsolete to discuss, whether the cutting dust inside has a scientific relevance or of which collector's value such samples may be. The important thing is, that every layman, who will get such a card in his hands, certainly won't put in the drawer as it is, but will start to learn about meteorites and will try to find out more about the stuff, so that such a card can be the initial ignition to be a meteorite collector! Well, for those specialized collectors not content in receiving only some dust and for those don't having the humour to recognize, that not the dust, but the cards per se as curiosity are collectible items, there exist our Chladni-Cases, where we used substantial specimens to fill them. They are no cards, but real display boxes, containing samples, often with cut surfaces, which are more representative for the stone used. In this respect they certainly address not only to laymen, but also to meteorite collectors - and they'll offer the opportunity for the low and lowest budget collectors - and many of them lament, that meteorite collecting is an expensive passion - to assemble not only names and numbers squired by a few molecules of that find or fall, but to own at least a piece, wherefore they don't need a microscope to enjoy it, - to say it more simple: They are macroscopic
AW: [meteorite-list] Collector Card vs Casket
Hi Ed, if you look on our page, there you will find that 95$ is the price for the boxes with a specimen of size L like Large. (Btw. Doug, the size cube has a metric 1ccm, I don't know how enormous dust grains must be in Mexico..). On the same page, you'll find also cases of size S, which cost only 45$. (and which do have the advantage, that if the name of the vendor would be one forgotten, that the sample stays still identifiable as it's no dust). And we produced also some of size XS, still not containing dust, but larger crumbs. Those we didn't advertised there, cause we'll need them for the kids on the show and to fill our coffee kitty there. They will be priced around 10Euro-15$, I guess certainly not to expensive to be used as gifts.. And keep in mind, that they contain Moon. The most expensive type of all. If you think about, that Mars costs a third or a quarter of such a lunaite and we roughly priced them by weight - you may estimate the price of such boxes L, M, S, if we produce them with Mars. Uuuh, here on the outskirts of Munich it started to snow Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von E.P. Grondine Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. November 2006 22:53 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Collector Card vs Casket Hi - My take on this so far: On Hupe's cards, in as much as the dealers are clearly identified, and the dust's provenience, there is no doubt as to authenticity, and it is nice to see the vendors/finders/preparers recognized. The $95 dollar samples are nicely packaged for collectors, but too expensive for gifts to children. Moon and Mars dust in these packages would be fine. To those dealers who are jealous, remember that those children are likely to be your customers when they grow up. Also, I would like to remind everyone of Nininger's bubble books which he sold from his shop at Barringer Crater. Who here would not like to have one of those today? (I keep dreaming that some day I'll show up at a yardsale, and one of them will be sitting there for me unrecognized.) It's nice to know that something similar exists for children (and the young at heart) today. I think this is a very good development, my best wishes to all in their new ventures, and good hunting, Ed --- MexicoDoug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin wrote: Subject: [meteorite-list] (AD) Collector Card Series vs Chladni Casketseries Pepsi vs Coke Hi Martin, Casketseries? :-) Is this a post-Halloween commercial?!! I enter Chladni Clastics. Good luck to all of you with the Mortadellan meteorites (EU protected geographic label, IGP) ... I thought the cutting dirt was used to brew beer or send to underpriviledged Romanian orphans or something, :-( ... For the competition, it tolls better than Looney Dirt Caskets ... no true Lunaitic can leave home and live without one! Also you can distribute them to trick-or-treaters instead of delicious slices, la grassa can effectively form Chladni clastics in Mortadella di Bologna, or Moon Jello, so at night they can put them under a pillow at night and unknown to the innocents shall become possessed get a full Moon,,, Nyya ha ha ha ha ha ha hah ... anyway those are my marketing concepts ... Saludos or Suerte, Haro's Heirs - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:44 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] (AD) Collector Card Series vs Chladni Casketseries Pepsi vs Coke Hiho list, the preparations for the Munich show are in full swing, first collectors and dealers arrived. Now I found the Hupe`s Collectors Cards advertised here and I can't understand the grief expressed about them by some voices, nor do we join the chorus, also we introduced 10 days ago our form of a collectors series with planetary material. www.chladnis-heirs.com/special.html You have to keep in mind, that those cards, like the Hupés produced, do not primarily address to the meteorite collectors audience, but they are qualified to arouse the interest of laymen, who will get so for the first time in contact with meteorites. Our job as dealers is not only to sell meteorites and to make money, to make accessible new and old localities and types to the established meteorite collectors, but also to reach people, who never heard about meteorites, to lead and guide newbies and new collectors to that field of collecting and to propagate and to popularize our fascinating hobby! Why do you thing e.g. Robert Haag is a living legend? Because he collected and sold meteorites? Certainly not, others do so too - but he was a showman, using all opportunities to transport his enthusiasm and the breathtaking aspect of meteorites. So what the heck is wrong with such funny cards? They are a nice gimmick, and it's obsolete
Re-2: [meteorite-list] Collector Card vs Casket
Uuuh, here on the outskirts of Munich it started to snow B! No snow here yet in the Mannheim-Heidelberg area but even though part of the sky is still star-studded embellished by a waxing gibbous Moon in the south, and Orion rising majesticaly in the East (already half way up), the first downy flakes (AKA clouds) are appearing and the air smells of snow. Good Night, Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: New Collector Card Series 2nd AD in 1 week
Hi Adam, I really like the cards. As a trading card collector, I think it is a great way to get kids interested in meteorites. They'll make excellent stocking stuffers. You did a fantastic job on them, they look very professional. I have a trading card with a piece of Angelina Jolie's clothing embedded in it and it's worth a fair bit. Your cards can only go up in value. Thank you for your creativity, Trace - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:59 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: New Collector Card Series 2nd AD in 1 week I am going to chalk up these series of attacks to jealousy! Get a life! Adam - Original Message - From: David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:50 AM Subject: New Collector Card Series 2nd AD in 1 week Adam Hupe wrote: Thanks Ed, Stonehenge was selected as an icon because it is a well-known ancient observatory where both the Lunar and Maritain cycles were witnessed among other celestial bodies. As a matter of fact, the table stone in the center of Stonehenge is used to track the Moon. I have had outside interest in mass producing a similar series but this simply isn't possible. There is no automated way of depositing the aliquot in the sample bay due to variability so this was done manually, a very time consuming process. Also, the scarcity of planetary material available to such a project would not allow for mass production. I priced all of the cards the same although my costs exceeded that of production in a few cases. The Artwork alone added a considerable amount to my costs. The nice thing is that I got a new logo out of the deal. I only produced 50 of each to see what happens. In all honesty, any revenue generated by this project will come no where near close to offsetting the costs of cutting loses. I just thought it would be a fun project and a good way to distribute small fragments/cutting dust in a presentable package. It took me over 5 years to collect sterile cutting dust or small fragments from 12 different planetary meteorites. It is the least expensive way for many to actually own a piece of the Moon or Mars, assemble an SNC set or own a piece of both the Highlands and Mare regions of the Moon plus I think they are cool! Take Care, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) Collector Card Series , an Observation
Martin Altmann wrote: Why do you thing e.g. Robert Haag is a living legend? Because he collected and sold meteorites? Certainly not, others do so too - but he was a showman, using all opportunities to transport his enthusiasm and the breathtaking aspect of meteorites. So what the heck is wrong with such funny cards? They are a nice gimmick, and it's obsolete to discuss, whether the cutting dust inside has a scientific relevance or of which collector's value such samples may be. The important thing is, that every layman, who will get such a card in his hands, certainly won't put in the drawer as it is, but will start to learn about meteorites and will try to find out more about the stuff, Hurrah! Well done Martin and well said. Personally, as a collector, albeit smalltime, I don't care much for there being more collectors. Competitons causes inflated prices. However, how many laypeople know that it is even possible to own a real piece of the moon? ...But 10mg is such a small amount. So mount it on a card and have it signed for authenticty (and lets be honest, only those in the meteorite community know whose signatures are worth the ink, any idiot could make a certificate). So what if they have little scientific value. I really don't think it matters. If you trust the guy selling the stuff, you can be sure it's the real thing. I think they'd make wonderful gifts. Especially if the recipient knows you love this stuff. They know you're going to give them fair dinkum merchandise. It's not about science. It's about making the public aware that there's more to life than the latest mobile phone technology, designer sofa, car, shoes, handbag or lipgloss. Our throwaway, must-have-now, hedonistic society needs to know that there is something beyond the 2 mile high envelope of oxygen-rich atmosphere we can inhabit. At a time when people are sneering at the space programme's finacial excesses, while they look through the latest brochure for air-conditioning or fitted-kitchens, it's worth remembering that there isn't enough of this material to go around and remind people that humanity is on a precipice between survival and catastrophe! I am aware of how I appear in the next phrase (so don't e-mail me to call me a sycophant) but I'm going to say it anyway... Good work Adam, for making this stuff available, if only there was more of it (ahh, who am I kidding? He probably has and just seems to know what to sell it for in future! Hey they guy's a businessman! Not enough for everyone though. Still, I'm hoping to avoid creep status by my last remark while simultaneously not incurring the wrath of one of the biggest of the big boys. My wife doesn't understand my meteorite obsession now! The last thing i need is a charge this git extra premium. Who'd be a diplomat?) Cheers Martin for pointing out the advantages of this kind material Rob McCafferty P.S. I try to make my e-mail mildly entertaining. Hope it worked. I'll try to be funnier next time Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates (http://voice.yahoo.com) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A really disgusting waste of meteorites
One can only hope that one of two situations is the case. 1; They are not real meteorites but the idiots are charges full price anyway 2; They are real meteorites and are charged at full market price. Then, when the idiot (soccer player from the English Premiership, who is the only human in Europe capable of affording such extravagance) crashes and writes off the car in an horrific collision with ...well something horrific...a genuine collector cn colllect the meteorite pieces for next to nothing (the footballer having no idea of their value of course) I live in hope. Sadly, no footballers of that sort of slaray live within 200 miles of me...maybe if they are on holiday Rob McC --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/11/1/business/15852562sec=business __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Low, Low, Low Rates! Check out Yahoo! Messenger's cheap PC-to-Phone call rates (http://voice.yahoo.com) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD (somewhat) and update
Hello List Members, To answer a few emails,... and thank you to whose of you who worried enough to write. My site is fine, I don't have a massive amount of broken links (that I know of), but I am redoing the Catalog ( www.impactika.com/metlist.htm ), consolidating various pages. Eventually you will be able to click on the reference # of every single item on the Catalog and you will get a nice big picture. But since I have well over 600 items on the Catalog and another 50 waiting to be listed, this will take a while, so far I have about a third of it done. I am sorry for the inconvenience, if you don't see the pictures(s) for the piece(s) that interest you, please email me and I'll be glad to take that picture(s) and send it to you. Any other questions or problems, please let me know. Thanks. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Beautiful thin sections Abee and Zag
List, A few have tried to see my photos but my band width was exceeded. Wow!, ~30 people trying to see a few 100k images. Imagine that. My ISP(Rogers/yahoo)is crappy when it comes to web pages and I can't increase my band width allotment, or so says the script monkey I was just chatting with. Anyway, you can see my photos on their webvertise page: http://ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/album?.dir=a570scd.src=""> I will see about getting a different web page host. Cheers, tett __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Collector Card Series
Creative use of waste materials. Very good. Scarcity of material will not allow for mass production? Will each card have it's own classification #? How can collectors be sure that your dust is pure cutting slop? Pure to each designation made by you alone. Garbage, hogwash and hype. Bill -- Original message -- From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Ed, Stonehenge was selected as an icon because it is a well-known ancient observatory where both the Lunar and Maritain cycles were witnessed among other celestial bodies. As a matter of fact, the table stone in the center of Stonehenge is used to track the Moon. I have had outside interest in mass producing a similar series but this simply isn't possible. There is no automated way of depositing the aliquot in the sample bay due to variability so this was done manually, a very time consuming process. Also, the scarcity of planetary material available to such a project would not allow for mass production. I priced all of the cards the same although my costs exceeded that of production in a few cases. The Artwork alone added a considerable amount to my costs. The nice thing is that I got a new logo out of the deal. I only produced 50 of each to see what happens. In all honesty, any revenue generated by this project will come no where near close to offsetting the costs of cutting loses. I just thought it would be a fun project and a good way to distribute small fragments/cutting dust in a presentable package. It took me over 5 years to collect sterile cutting dust or small fragments from 12 different planetary meteorites. It is the least expensive way for many to actually own a piece of the Moon or Mars, assemble an SNC set or own a piece of both the Highlands and Mare regions of the Moon plus I think they are cool! Take Care, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thin sections
Hi Mike, all, Me also I like thin sections. I have a whole series. This petrologic vision supplements well the meteorites collection. I also try to interpret them. Tomorrow, I will go to Munich (the 28th trip, already)… Here is a link to a site I created. http://www.agab.be/meteorites/Thin/thin.html Regards, Roger Warin. Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fake meteorites on ebay
You should have a toilet nearby after having these, it´s possible, they are named after the speed of a meteor... best, pekka s Moni Waiblinger-Seabridge kirjoitti: Good Morning list members, you could add this one. In the town of Noerdlingen where the Ries Crater is located, a cafe' is selling these as a Noerdlinger Meteorite. They are quite tasty! With best regards, Moni From: Pelé Pierre-Marie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Fake meteorites on ebay Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 15:50:17 +0100 (CET) Hello List, here are two hilarious links on ebay of a guy selling fake meteorites. It looks comic first but it's a way to tell people to verify what they buy on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=150051439544 and http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=150051439474 Pierre-Marie PELE www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com www.meteor-center.com ___ Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses http://fr.answers.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Try Search Survival Kits: Fix up your home and better handle your cash with Live Search! http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improvelocale=en-USsource=hmtagline __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Someone doesn't care for Paypal!
Whow!! Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 3:58 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Someone doesn't care for Paypal! Okay, it isn't directly meteorite related. But since so many of us use Paypal in the buying and selling of meteorites, I thought this would be of interest. http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_305004735.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: New Collector Card Series 2nd AD in 1 week
--- Trace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a trading card with a piece of Angelina Jolie's clothing embedded in it and it's worth a fair bit. Your cards can only go up in value. Trace Angelina Jolie's clothing??? Value is in the eye of the beholder I guess. Celebrity auctions are fairly common. My crystal ball see's a new product line for Bessey Specks. Cheers DEAN http://www.meteoriteshop.com Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail (http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - November 2, 2006
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[meteorite-list] things embedded in fusion crust
Hello All, I've got an oriented NWA that appears to have sand embedded in the fusion crust on the leading edge. Could this be possible? I'm 98% sure that it's not desert varnish I'm seeing. Any other situations where things are stuck in the crust? Seems like I recall grass in a Portales Valley, but not certain on that one. I tried to take a couple pictures but it's hard to get the depth perception. Here they are anyway. http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c57/pkmorgan/meteorite/crust1.jpg http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c57/pkmorgan/meteorite/crust2.jpg Any info on this topic would be appreciated. Thanks and Regards, Phil __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] things embedded in fusion crust
Thanks for the responses. Makes Sense. Guess I just haven't personally observed this part of the process before Regards to all! - Original Message - From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phil Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] things embedded in fusion crust Dear Phil, It is sand. When meteorites weather, iron oxide is released and mixed with carbonates in the surrounding sand/soil and the sand becomes embedded a crust around the meteorite, when the meteorite is again exposed to the blowing sand the surface becomes ablated; this is what you are observing. Best, Dirk...Tokyo --- Phil Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I've got an oriented NWA that appears to have sand embedded in the fusion crust on the leading edge. Could this be possible? I'm 98% sure that it's not desert varnish I'm seeing. Any other situations where things are stuck in the crust? Seems like I recall grass in a Portales Valley, but not certain on that one. I tried to take a couple pictures but it's hard to get the depth perception. Here they are anyway. http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c57/pkmorgan/meteorite/crust1.jpg http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c57/pkmorgan/meteorite/crust2.jpg Any info on this topic would be appreciated. Thanks and Regards, Phil __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 40 % off Sale
Hello my friends . I have a great need to sell as much as possible this week . Therefore I am offering 40 % off anything on my web site . http://www.meteorites4sale.net/ Plus I have for sale 11.8g Willamette fragment 9g NWA 2353 slice (H7/ meteachondrite ) 1.3g Divone Very thin slice 43g Dalgaranga end cut mesosiderite NOT oxidized very fresh 4.2g Mount Baldr fragment with crust 6.6g Parnallee Crusted fragment 115 g end cut Sahara 97158 EH3 I also have some fantastic complete specimens of the new EL6/EL7 from 10g completes to 300gs complete specimens and I will cut a slice off at no extra charge if you wish . If anything sounds interesting please contact me off the list . I have Comcast for my internet provider and I do not get the list anymore so I now read the archives to find out what is happening . Thank you for reading this and Best regards Ken Regelman Astronomical Research Network __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] the meteorite cards...
Only one commentBRILLIANT! Why were these not around when I started collecting?! Very fine idea, beautifully packaged and very collectible. And please, all you naysayers, go away you know who you are go and rain on someone else's parade. Your constant attacking of everyone and anyone on the List is tedious and verging on the sociopathic. I love 'em - I want 'em! well done chaps chappesses! dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS www.bimsociety.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
