Re: [meteorite-list] On TV Tonight! Cash TreasuresMeteoriteEpisode
Great service, Mark, thank you! With my inner ears I can hear a voice - L.A., next year - shouting: And the winner is ... Best , Matthias - Original Message - From: MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 3:09 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] On TV Tonight! Cash TreasuresMeteoriteEpisode Hello Geoff and list, Nice job Geoff, Sonny, Steve and Mike. Missed the first two airings but will try to capture the third. For those that also missed the episode, and perhaps for those that would like a refresher, here are some photographs I took of the Brenham part of the aired episodes. I tried my best to stay out of the camera way, as the film was much more important then my snapshots...but here they are. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/brenham01.html If someone did happen to record and it would not be much of a hassle to send me a copy I would appreciate it. One of my brothers was there and I imagine he would like to see it. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Kansas Meteorite Society www.meteoritearticles.com www.imca.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] apology
It made my day. Thankyou Is this a sample from the next Harry Potter book? and do, in fact, gleefully read his posts but mostly - in anticipation of the posts of those who hate him to be hysterically humorous - like watching pin ball machines run amok in a giant Greyhound bus station. Is the moral of the story you can't spell funeral without fun ...or something? I know better than to get involved but that was the worst analogy I've ever read, and I read Dilbert! RMc __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: WEBSITE UPDATE SALE
I havent been having many sales lately but hope to get more active again soon and get my website updated regularly again. I just put this little sale together. http://www.meteoriteshop.com/metsale/msale1.html This will go on my website shortly but 20% off for anything of interest for the next two days. Many meteorites on this website are cut. I suspect that I will be cutting more meteorites in the future rather than just dumping them cheap unchecked like I usually do because of the much harder time I have buying meteorites nowadays given the much lower amount available in morocco. Will probably have more time to go over them in th efuture. Its pretty late here now so if I get orders overnight will take them in time order Cheers DEAN http://www.meteoriteshop.com http://www.meteoriteshop.com/metsale/msale1.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
Hello Everybody, As the time is getting close, perhaps now we should think about the tradition started last year (is that an oxymoran or what?) at the Birthday Bash, with the 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award. White it is preferred that winners attend the 2007 Tucson show, where the treasured awards are given away by Geoff Notkin and Steve Brenham Arnold, an exception was made last year. Due to Bernd years of contributions, I would humbly like to nominate list contributor Bernd Pauli for the 2007 People's Choice Harvey Award Nominee. From helping me and others off-list, to providing short references, for your own general meteorite observations, or sharing those such as Buchwald comments, answering questions and the general sharing of information. And interesting to note, in my 5-6 years as a list member, I can not remember one AD by you...surely there is one in those archivessomewhere...:^) A true collector, an honest man and a valued friend of many...I imagine I can speak for most of the list Bernd when I say Thank You! to you and your wife. (Perhaps more so the later or we would never have Bernd in our e-mail boxes). You are model for the list and we do appreciate your efforts. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Kansas Meteorite Society, Founder/Board Member International Meteorite Collectors Association, Co-Founder (Round 2)/Board Member/Treasure Wichita Gem and Mineral Society Member __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA CV3's and DI's
Thanks to all those who replied with their help. Much appreciated! Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 12:26 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA CV3's and DI's Hi Jeff and List, Maybe some of these references are helpful! Cheers, Bernd (again exposed to Aussie English ;-) HEYMANN D. et al. (1986) Carbon in dark inclusions of the Allende meteorite (Proc. Lunar Planet. Sci. 17th, 341-342). HEYMANN D. et al. (1987) Carbon in dark inclusions of the Allende meteorite (Meteoritics 22, 1987, 3-15): Dark inclusions (DI's) are among the major petrographic components of the Allende meteorite; the others being: a fine-grained matrix of predominantly olivine (near Fa50), chondrules (usually Fe,Mg-rich; occasionally Ca, Al-rich), and irregular inclusions (Clarke et at., 1970; Mason, 1975; Fruland et al., 1978). DI's have also been called fine-grained xenoliths. Their dimensions can be millimeters, and even centimeters. The larger DI's can usually be recognized easily on cut surfaces of the Allende meteorite because they appear darker than their surrounding areas, and are often poor in chondrules or large irregular inclusions. Nevertheless, there does not exist now a firm visual definition of a DI. Fruland, Clanton, and Walton (1977) recognized three types of DI's: (1) a black fine-grained matrix with few clasts and rare chondrules, (2) a discontinuous, black, fine-grained matrix with abundant clasts and chondrules, and (3) densely packed clasts and chondrules with a small percentage of discontinuous interstitial matrix. Fruland (1978) reports SEM petrography on two lensoidal DI's: both display sharp boundaries with the lighter Allende matrix; one has an approximately 60 µm wide, but discontinuous rim of Ca-rich silicates. Fruland notes that these two DI's consist primarily of silicates, metal, and sulfides, with grain sizes up to about 40 µm; hence, coarser than matrix. Fruland also notes: Many clasts have a dark 'accretionary' halo. Fruland et al. (1978) have studied six DI's of which two are type 1; one is possibly type 3; the others are type 2. HUTCHISON R. (2004) Meteorites: A Petrologic, Chemical, and Isotopic Synthesis (Cambridge Planetary Science Series, pp. 506, p. 92): Dark inclusions or matrix lumps are present in the members of a number of groups of the carbonaceous chondrites. The inclusions are mm-sized, may be chondrule- and CAI-free and generally are phyllosilicate-rich with magnetite and sulfide and are more aqueously altered than matrix. These characteristics most closely resemble CI chondrites. BISCHOFF A. et al. (1988), The chemical composition of dark inclusions from the Allende meteorite (abs. in Lun.Plan. Sci. 19, 88-89). C.A.Johnson, M. Prinz, M.K. Weisberg (1990) Dark inclusions in Allende, Leoville and Vigarano: Evidence for nebular oxidation of CV3 constituents (GCA 54, 819-830). P.C. Buchanan et al. (1996) Petrology of Allende dark inclusions (abs. Meteoritics 31, 1996, A023). BRENKER F.E. et al. (2002) Evidence for a high temperature episode during multistage alteration of Allende dark inclusions (MAPS 37-7, 2002, July, A024). KROT A.N. et al. (1999) Mineralogy, petrography, bulk chemical, iodine-xenon, and oxygen-isotopic compositions of dark inclusions in the reduced CV3 chondrite Efremovka (MAPS 34-1, 1999, 067-089). KROT A.N. et al. (2002) Two-stage asteroidal alteration of the Allende dark inclusions (MAPS 37-7, 2002, A082). BIRYUKOV V.V. et al. (1998) Textures and bulk chemistry of dark inclusions in the reduced CV3 chondrite Efremovka (Meteoritics 33-4, 1998, A014). BIRYUKOV V.V. et al. (1998) Mineralogy and classification of dark inclusions in the reduced CV3 chondrite Efremovka (Meteoritics 33-4, 1998, A015). C.A.Johnson, M. Prinz, M.K. Weisberg (1990) Dark inclusions in Allende, Leoville and Vigarano: Evidence for nebular oxidation of CV3 constituents (GCA 54, 819-830). OHNISHI I. et al. (2000) Dark inclusions in the Mokoia CV3 chondrite: Record of aqueous alteration, thermal metamorphism, and shock metamorphism (MAPS 35-5, 2000, Suppl., A122). OHNISHI I. et al. (2002) Dark inclusions in the Mokoia CV3 chondrite: Evidence for aqueous alteration and subsequent thermal and shock metamorphism (MAPS 37-12, 2002, pp. 1843-1856). __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-dealers.com DeRusse and company
As I do not know who Mr. DeRusse is I don't think this applies to me. Gary On 20 Dec 2006 at 20:21, Dave Freeman mjwy wrote: DeRussemmm..the kiss of death or insanity. Dave F. and no new snow here. drtanuki wrote: Dear Gary and List, It seems to me that if you want your dealer list link site to work and to get people to join that you need to explain your connection with Mr. DeRusse who once owned the Domain, meteorite-dealers.com. Also, a more detailed introduction about yourself and about your goals in the meteorite community would prove interesting. Sincerly, Dirk Ross...Tokyo --- Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Petty capatilasm, Paul. Your timing - one day after my own post about discounted dealer listings at meteorite-dealers.com - leaves no doubt as to whom your post was aimed toward. It smacks of 'My meteorites are better than yours'. Thanks for the clear shot across the bows. To meet your challenge I offer the same - listings with full links for FREE. I raise you one - logo graphics with any dealers listing for FREE. Any dealer is FREE to submit their FREE listing at the following URL; htpp://www.meteorite-dealers.com/submit.html Gary On 19 Dec 2006 at 18:22, Paul Harris wrote: Greetings Everyone! As part of our annual end of year reminder, please review your FREE Meteorite Dealer listings on The Meteorite Exchange and Meteorite-Times for accuracy. The Meteorite Dealers Listings on meteorite.com have now been online for 10 years and as of this month is seeing over 1000 unique visitors per DAY! Meteorite-Times Yellowpage Listings on meteorite-times.com have now been online for 1 year and as of this month Meteorite-Times is seeing over 600 unique visitors per DAY! Please review your FREE listings at: http://www.meteorite.com/dealer_list.htm http://www.meteorite-times.com/yellowpages/ Happy Holidays! Paul __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-dealers.com DeRusse and company
Dirk, I do not know Mr. DeRusse, nor was I aware that anyone ever owned the domain before I registered it. As for myself, I have been a member of this list for over a year now and have posted enough for regular readers to know who I am. My goals in the meteorite community are threefold; 1) To collect meteorites and learn about them. 2) To make it possible for other afficianados to find reputable dealers thru meteorite- dealers.com 3) To perhaps make a bit of money to defray the costs of placing this service online. Gary On 20 Dec 2006 at 18:27, drtanuki wrote: Dear Gary and List, It seems to me that if you want your dealer list link site to work and to get people to join that you need to explain your connection with Mr. DeRusse who once owned the Domain, meteorite-dealers.com. Also, a more detailed introduction about yourself and about your goals in the meteorite community would prove interesting. Sincerly, Dirk Ross...Tokyo --- Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Petty capatilasm, Paul. Your timing - one day after my own post about discounted dealer listings at meteorite-dealers.com - leaves no doubt as to whom your post was aimed toward. It smacks of 'My meteorites are better than yours'. Thanks for the clear shot across the bows. To meet your challenge I offer the same - listings with full links for FREE. I raise you one - logo graphics with any dealers listing for FREE. Any dealer is FREE to submit their FREE listing at the following URL; htpp://www.meteorite-dealers.com/submit.html Gary On 19 Dec 2006 at 18:22, Paul Harris wrote: Greetings Everyone! As part of our annual end of year reminder, please review your FREE Meteorite Dealer listings on The Meteorite Exchange and Meteorite-Times for accuracy. The Meteorite Dealers Listings on meteorite.com have now been online for 10 years and as of this month is seeing over 1000 unique visitors per DAY! Meteorite-Times Yellowpage Listings on meteorite-times.com have now been online for 1 year and as of this month Meteorite-Times is seeing over 600 unique visitors per DAY! Please review your FREE listings at: http://www.meteorite.com/dealer_list.htm http://www.meteorite-times.com/yellowpages/ Happy Holidays! Paul __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Free Meteorite Dealer Listings since 1996
Bill, Any businessman whose efforts are 'blown off' by the competition is not a smart businessman if they do not respond. I would rather state my position rather than be perceived as slinking off to lick my wounds in private. I was not aware that metlist 'bigshots' were biding their time. Biding their time for what? A reason to discredit me? I will not apologise for defending my business. Why should I? 'Well balanced'... I remain so. Gary On 20 Dec 2006 at 22:24, Bill wrote: Gary, I respect free enterprise. However, you should have blown their offer off just as they initially dismissed your offer. Your reaction was kind of odd as you are usually well balanced. The point is that you opened the door for the met-list bigshots who have obviously been biding their time. A brief apology would be the best course for now. Let it slide. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:54:18 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Free Meteorite Dealer Listings since 1996 Petty capatilasm, Paul. Your timing - one day after my own post about discounted dealer listings at meteorite-dealers.com - leaves no doubt as to whom your post was aimed toward. It smacks of 'My meteorites are better than yours'. Thanks for the clear shot across the bows. To meet your challenge I offer the same - listings with full links for FREE. I raise you one - logo graphics with any dealers listing for FREE. Any dealer is FREE to submit their FREE listing at the following URL; htpp://www.meteorite-dealers.com/submit.html Gary On 19 Dec 2006 at 18:22, Paul Harris wrote: Greetings Everyone! As part of our annual end of year reminder, please review your FREE Meteorite Dealer listings on The Meteorite Exchange and Meteorite-Times for accuracy. The Meteorite Dealers Listings on meteorite.com have now been online for 10 years and as of this month is seeing over 1000 unique visitors per DAY! Meteorite-Times Yellowpage Listings on meteorite-times.com have now been online for 1 year and as of this month Meteorite-Times is seeing over 600 unique visitors per DAY! Please review your FREE listings at: http://www.meteorite.com/dealer_list.htm http://www.meteorite-times.com/yellowpages/ Happy Holidays! Paul __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ONE-CLICK WEBMAIL ACCESS - Easily monitor access your email accounts! Visit http://www.inbox.com/notifier and check it out! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Free Meteorite Dealer Listings since 1996
Paul, First, I think your presentation to the school and some of your posts to the list have been excellent. Thank you. But you are the one who shot across our bow first as your email to the list on Dec 22, 2005 will show. From the list archives. http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2005-December/018771.html 1. When a list member informed you that we already provide a free list to everyone your response was - Yes, but you have to know what you want. I took that as a negative view of the service we have been providing since 1996 If you read the whole post you referenced rather than the one line you quoted you will see it was, and still is, an attempt to provide a different kind of service, providing value to meteorite dealers wishing to reach out to their market. My comment, which you did quote, was intended to show the difference between your listings and mine - nothing about that can be construed as a shot across the bows. . 2. Your statement, If you want to be listed in what will quickly become the premier meteorite dealer's listing website... We've been the premier Meteorite Dealer listing website since 1996 and you have publicly stated your intent to change that. 3. Your statement, And I bet I can take top position in the major search engines too. I've been at this for 13 years now. This further proves you are trying to knock us out of our #1 spot and implies that I lack the seo skills necessary to remain #1. My implication was that I know SEO as well as anyone else and that there would be value in my efforts. I do disagree with some of your business tactics though. Pumping up your posts in November and December to have people look at your website and drive up your stats and then make a statement (which is accurate for December) that you have x amount of unique visitors is quite misleading. Everyone should look at the months before November and December to see the real stats. http://gaccin.pair.com/wx/webalizer/meteorite-dealers.com/ This is the reason I made my post the way that I did. I also calculated that you would not be able to remain silent. If you had remained silent I would not be making this post. Current stats show trends. Valuable information to any potential advertiser. As a past owner of a full-service ad agency I am well aware that metrics for every advertising venue change over time and that, as they grow, so does the value of advertising in that venue. Plain and simple Business 101. As for 'pumping up my posts', I post when I have something to say - which is not on a regular basis. Posting for the sake of posting something/anything would be pumping up my posts with intent. This I do not do. Where is the proof of your statistical claims? I noticed you did not post a link to your stats for all to see. Are we to simply believe your statement of 1000 unique visitors per day as a fact without corroberation? As for your calculating that I could not remain silent - your statement simply shows that your post was a clear attempt to goad me to defend my position. Well, I do so vehemently and gladly. I have put a lot of time and effort into meteorite-dealers.com and will continue to defend my efforts. Competition is great for everyone. It has kept us on our toes and our sites and services are better today because of you. I am glad that you recognize that your site needed competition to improve. I am glad to have been that competition as well. Thank you for making us better. You're welcome. It is a shame that two such sites cannot co-exist without animosity. I believe your post was made out of fear that your site's relevance may be negatively impacted by meteorite- dealers.com's existence. Gary Paul Harris *** From Dec 22, 2005 Yes, but you have to know what you want. This will be listings of all dealers who want to participate by location. And I bet I can take top position in the major search engines too. I've been at this for 13 years now. Gary Gary On 22 Dec 2005 at 8:04, steve eshbaugh wrote: I think they have something like that already out there similar to that. It's called the The Meteorite Exchange Steve Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Listers, In case y'all didn't know it, I am in the business of website design and search engine optimization. I am creating a website to list all meteorite dealers worldwide [if possible anyway] and would like to include your business in the database. What's in it for you? Business, plain and simple. As an example, I created NorthConwayLodgings.com on Dec 12th. As of yesterday it is #1 on MSN and will be penetrating the top listings in Yahoo and Google within the next few months. This new Meteorite Dealers site will be broken down by region and will launch within a week. It
[meteorite-list] AD - FINAL Ebay sale prior to the Chirstmas Holidays for all Meteorite Fans of the #1 Meteorite List in the Universe !!!
Good Morning Meteorite Lovers I have auctions ending tonight catchafallingstar.com. Most started at 99 Cents!!!: http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=catchafallingstar.com An ORIENTED Sikhote-alin with an absolutely beautiful ROLL OVER RIM lots of photos on this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200056024527 LUNAR and MARS all with very favorable surface to weight ratio: NWA 482: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200056000356 NWA 2977: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200055989126 DAG 476: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200056004823 Full recap with photos on Paul and Jim's website: http://www.meteorite.com/meteorites/ebay/catch_a_falling_star_meteorites.htm Thanks for looking Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] meteorite-dealers.com DeRusse and company
After searching the list archives I find no connection between Mr DeRusse and meteorite- dealers.com. In fact, he lists his web address at the end of nearly each of his posts. It is listed as bccmeteorites.com. Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
I agree!! perfect choice. Berndt's messages are so helpful and informative..and he's clearly a calm and thoughtful voice among a sometimes fractious crew of collectors and dealers. Jim Baxter p.s. Incidentally Mark, you're no slouch in providing great information; definitely another great source of useful material on the list. Your frequent contributions are appreciated. jb Jim Baxter Hello Everybody, As the time is getting close, perhaps now we should think about the tradition started last year (is that an oxymoran or what?) at the Birthday Bash, with the 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award. White it is preferred that winners attend the 2007 Tucson show, where the treasured awards are given away by Geoff Notkin and Steve Brenham Arnold, an exception was made last year. Due to Bernd years of contributions, I would humbly like to nominate list contributor Bernd Pauli for the 2007 People's Choice Harvey Award Nominee. From helping me and others off-list, to providing short references, for your own general meteorite observations, or sharing those such as Buchwald comments, answering questions and the general sharing of information. And interesting to note, in my 5-6 years as a list member, I can not remember one AD by you...surely there is one in those archivessomewhere...:^) A true collector, an honest man and a valued friend of many...I imagine I can speak for most of the list Bernd when I say Thank You! to you and your wife. (Perhaps more so the later or we would never have Bernd in our e-mail boxes). You are model for the list and we do appreciate your efforts. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Kansas Meteorite Society, Founder/Board Member International Meteorite Collectors Association, Co-Founder (Round 2)/Board Member/Treasure Wichita Gem and Mineral Society Member __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree!! perfect choice. Berndt's messages are so helpful and informative..and he's clearly a calm and thoughtful voice among a sometimes fractious crew of collectors and dealers. Jim Baxter Count me in as agreeing also. Don __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
I will second that motion although I was not the second person to reply to Mark's suggestion. Bernd has always been a consistent contributor of reliable information. On top of that, he is one of the true gentlemen remain on this list amongst us heathens. My vote, if it is to be counted, goes to Bernd. Best from the frozen Phoenix area ( yes...we do get some cold weather at times), John Gwilliam At 03:53 AM 12/21/2006, MARK BOSTICK wrote: Hello Everybody, As the time is getting close, perhaps now we should think about the tradition started last year (is that an oxymoran or what?) at the Birthday Bash, with the 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award. White it is preferred that winners attend the 2007 Tucson show, where the treasured awards are given away by Geoff Notkin and Steve Brenham Arnold, an exception was made last year. Due to Bernd years of contributions, I would humbly like to nominate list contributor Bernd Pauli for the 2007 People's Choice Harvey Award Nominee. From helping me and others off-list, to providing short references, for your own general meteorite observations, or sharing those such as Buchwald comments, answering questions and the general sharing of information. And interesting to note, in my 5-6 years as a list member, I can not remember one AD by you...surely there is one in those archivessomewhere...:^) A true collector, an honest man and a valued friend of many...I imagine I can speak for most of the list Bernd when I say Thank You! to you and your wife. (Perhaps more so the later or we would never have Bernd in our e-mail boxes). You are model for the list and we do appreciate your efforts. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Kansas Meteorite Society, Founder/Board Member International Meteorite Collectors Association, Co-Founder (Round 2)/Board Member/Treasure Wichita Gem and Mineral Society Member __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] apology(+Lunar Hunters)
Alex, Big NWA 4485 congratulations and may the befreundet Christmas spirit brilliantly bring velvety melanite-emblazoned gems into Germany's skies. That moonpiece is dangerously admirable for anyone with purse and a pulse. I'm still walking on water for Christmas's to come, after an encounter relieving those same, modest, and celebrated Moon-hunting Loons of a bit of NWA 4483 (Lun-A, paired to the other renowned Lunar Hunter's NWA 3163) :-) My Christmas spending this year literally has gone to the dogs, as Guadalupe y Caldo barked - such a cute little ballistoled biscuit of iron hexahedrite to feed a voracious diet of vital things and minerals... (see: http://www.ballistol.co.uk/html/product_animal.html to complete this attempt at dog care - if it's new to you, you'll get a kick out of this one!) On to your comment about the German online translator: Would a babelfish translator to German work reasonably well on this? :-) Maybe it could when all else fails; it isn't uncommon to find references to several languages in James Joyce's work, which are often missed by unsuspecting researchers :-). Thanks for the sympathetic comments. Joyce wrote that passage around 75 years ago in his last great literary work, Finnegan's Wake (as apparently noted by an astute listmember). While the text's many enigmatic messages are still being interpreted, much remains a work in progress. To me, on one level, it describes both the light phenomenon associated with a meteor and physical characteristics of a meteorite (matrix and fusion crust). Also, there seem to be an undercurrent for the role of meteorites in the formation of the Solar system (1920's-1930's timeframe!). The word electrolatiginous, is especially curious: Whether unrelated, coincidental, or not, may refer to chondrules and other peppered aspects attracted and cast into the matrix of ordinary chondrites. On another level it seems the authors intent was to describe a rag-tag posse of claymen (clay which is used in sculpting and also binds and transports water). Anyway, the opinion of the refined meteoritical community would be valuble to scholars who still argue over the genius of this vastly complex masterpiece. Peace and Looniness to all, Doug Then again: back to meteorites, da real stuff! My christmas one: a nice little (0.441 g) chunk of lunar NWA 4485 mare basalt breccia intermixed with anorthosite clasts, bound to be another possible member of the Lun-M clan as time goes by, from one of my most favorite dealers. Have a good time and happy holidays all, and a prosperous 2007 with many a great new meteorite about to fall from the skies! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
Hello Mark and List Members, I completely agree and will also cast a vote for Bernd. Take Care, Jason Phillips Rocks from Heaven www.rocksfromheaven.com MARK BOSTICK wrote: Hello Everybody, As the time is getting close, perhaps now we should think about the tradition started last year (is that an oxymoran or what?) at the Birthday Bash, with the 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award. White it is preferred that winners attend the 2007 Tucson show, where the treasured awards are given away by Geoff Notkin and Steve Brenham Arnold, an exception was made last year. Due to Bernd years of contributions, I would humbly like to nominate list contributor Bernd Pauli for the 2007 People's Choice Harvey Award Nominee. From helping me and others off-list, to providing short references, for your own general meteorite observations, or sharing those such as Buchwald comments, answering questions and the general sharing of information. And interesting to note, in my 5-6 years as a list member, I can not remember one AD by you...surely there is one in those archivessomewhere...:^) A true collector, an honest man and a valued friend of many...I imagine I can speak for most of the list Bernd when I say Thank You! to you and your wife. (Perhaps more so the later or we would never have Bernd in our e-mail boxes). You are model for the list and we do appreciate your efforts. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Kansas Meteorite Society, Founder/Board Member International Meteorite Collectors Association, Co-Founder (Round 2)/Board Member/Treasure Wichita Gem and Mineral Society Member __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
Due to Bernd years of contributions, I would humbly like to nominate list contributor Bernd Pauli for the 2007 People's Choice Harvey Award Count me in on that, an excellent proposal! Alex Berlin/Germany __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Matteo and his hipocritical prices.
Matteo in Italy, our favorite Italian scam artist, is now selling Park forest at a whopping $48.00 per gram! This after the pile of crap he gave me and others about the price during the fall in 2003. I found this on eBay today and am highly amused (to put it in a nice way) after the many emails full of his spew about the max value and how I was ripping people off by selling Park Forest around ~$10-20 gram during the fall. http://cgi.ebay.com/W0QQitemZ260066014372 WOW, I guess you owe us all an apology Matteo, it seems that I was actually doing the people a great favor, since you are now selling at over 4 times the price, I gave them a great investment. When the next fall occurs (like Moss no less) I fully expect the same barrage of hate-filled garbage from the loser who has never found a fresh fall (except several that fell in his friend's backyard and on the local beaches). Just a little reminder that this guy is to full of crap it isn't even funny. :meteorite-list] Opsss...Park Forest is go to $7.25/gr. M come Meteorite Meteorites Mon, 25 Aug 2003 06:48:48 + Hello all How had I expected time does, the price of the Park Forest is itself stabilized... after the $16/gr. then the $10/gr. now arrived at $7.25/gr. Besides I have information a PF of 245 gr. was sold for $1.50/gr. from an inhabitant of the place to a collector. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2188285311category=3239rd=1 regards Matteo: And another email: RE: [meteorite-list] Opsss...Park Forest is go to $7.25/gr. M come Meteorite Meteorites Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:59:43 + yes but if you see is all not sold...now people want for low price the PFended the time of the $40-80-120/gr. I have persons sale PF for max $16/gr. now, not over.and others go direct in PF and buy a 245 gr. piece for $1.5/gr. another thanks to the persons put on ebay material buy normaly for high prices and now go ruined! Matteo: AND Yet another Damning email from Matteo: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fairprice? Tim Heitz Sat, 29 Mar 2003 04:21:09 -0800 That is 7 times what they paid for it, your saying thats a fair price. Tim Heitz M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote: Crazy, over the price of a historical fall.for me a price of $7/gr. max. is ok. No over. If is fall many kilos is another question. regards Matteo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
Bernd has my vote! Sincerely, Michael Johnson http://www.spacerocksinc.com http://spacerocksinc.com/RSPOD.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Harvey Award
Harvey Award Bernd Pauli--An excellent nominee! Thomas __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
Mark, List Bernd is by no means the best candidate deserving such a nomination. I hope that even though I can't attend Tucson, I can feel free to second the proposal, personally but also on behalf of many silent listees from my area who are enjoying Bernd's scientific (and personal) contributions related to meteorites and alike on the list and who are by no means honored to have him as friend. Excellent idea Mark! Best wishes for 2007 to all, Zelimir At 03:53 AM 12/21/2006, MARK BOSTICK wrote: Hello Everybody, As the time is getting close, perhaps now we should think about the tradition started last year (is that an oxymoran or what?) at the Birthday Bash, with the 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award. White it is preferred that winners attend the 2007 Tucson show, where the treasured awards are given away by Geoff Notkin and Steve Brenham Arnold, an exception was made last year. Due to Bernd years of contributions, I would humbly like to nominate list contributor Bernd Pauli for the 2007 People's Choice Harvey Award Nominee. From helping me and others off-list, to providing short references, for your own general meteorite observations, or sharing those such as Buchwald comments, answering questions and the general sharing of information. And interesting to note, in my 5-6 years as a list member, I can not remember one AD by you...surely there is one in those archivessomewhere...:^) A true collector, an honest man and a valued friend of many...I imagine I can speak for most of the list Bernd when I say Thank You! to you and your wife. (Perhaps more so the later or we would never have Bernd in our e-mail boxes). You are model for the list and we do appreciate your efforts. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Kansas Meteorite Society, Founder/Board Member International Meteorite Collectors Association, Co-Founder (Round 2)/Board Member/Treasure Wichita Gem and Mineral Society Member Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
By all means, Bernd ! - Original Message - From: Zelimir Gabelica [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee Zelimir wrote: Bernd is by no means the best candidate deserving such a nomination. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
Hi List members, I definitely agree with Bernd being an excellent choice! I am always pleased to read his posts. With best regards, Moni From: MexicoDoug [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Zelimir Gabelica [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:41:10 -0600 By all means, Bernd ! - Original Message - From: Zelimir Gabelica [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee Zelimir wrote: Bernd is by no means the best candidate deserving such a nomination. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Dave vs. Carl: The Insignificant Championship Series. Who will win? http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://davevscarl.spaces.live.com/?icid=T001MSN38C07001 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
Dear Mark and others, While I wholeheartedly agree with everyone's statements (save the unintentional use of negatives in one of them) regarding the beloved Bernd (and I do not use that adjective lightly), please correct me if I am wrong: The Harvey Awards are at the discretion of their founders, Geoff Notkin and Steve Arnold. The ONLY exception was when last year people rose up and demanded that they, themselves receive the award for their estimable and unquestionable contributions to the meteorite world. If I am right (and, as my wife daily reminds me, I am often wrong) then The Harvey Awards are and should be solely at the discretion of Geoff and Steve. Therefore, any such nomination should have been made directly (and privately) to them. While in this case, I am sure they will be heeding public sentiment, but future nominations really should go through them and not be public. Again, I am open to correction by Geoff and/or Steve - others merely have opinions unless they can site one or both of them making a public announcement establishing the people's choice as an ongoing tradition, as they would be the only ones who would have the authority to do so (Given my worsening memory, perhaps they have and I am clearly exposing myself as the fool I am?) Best wishes, Michael on 12/21/06 8:11 AM, Alexander Seidel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Due to Bernd years of contributions, I would humbly like to nominate list contributor Bernd Pauli for the 2007 People's Choice Harvey Award Count me in on that, an excellent proposal! Alex Berlin/Germany __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- It is difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends on him not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair -- What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It is what we know for sure that just ain't so. - Josh Billings (but oft credited to Mark Twain) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Harvey Award
Yes, I wonder wahat took us (the collective list) so long in recognizing this. Please count my vote for Bernd. -Walter Branch - - Original Message - From: Thomas Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 11:24 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Harvey Award Harvey Award Bernd Pauli--An excellent nominee! Thomas __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
Mark, I agree with everything you said. Please add me to the list of folks that agree with Bernd's nomination. Cheers, Dave Carothers From: MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/12/21 Thu AM 04:53:51 CST To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee Hello Everybody, As the time is getting close, perhaps now we should think about the tradition started last year (is that an oxymoran or what?) at the Birthday Bash, with the 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award. White it is preferred that winners attend the 2007 Tucson show, where the treasured awards are given away by Geoff Notkin and Steve Brenham Arnold, an exception was made last year. Due to Bernd years of contributions, I would humbly like to nominate list contributor Bernd Pauli for the 2007 People's Choice Harvey Award Nominee. From helping me and others off-list, to providing short references, for your own general meteorite observations, or sharing those such as Buchwald comments, answering questions and the general sharing of information. And interesting to note, in my 5-6 years as a list member, I can not remember one AD by you...surely there is one in those archivessomewhere...:^) A true collector, an honest man and a valued friend of many...I imagine I can speak for most of the list Bernd when I say Thank You! to you and your wife. (Perhaps more so the later or we would never have Bernd in our e-mail boxes). You are model for the list and we do appreciate your efforts. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Kansas Meteorite Society, Founder/Board Member International Meteorite Collectors Association, Co-Founder (Round 2)/Board Member/Treasure Wichita Gem and Mineral Society Member __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
Hear! Hear! [or is it Here! Here!] Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 5:53 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee Hello Everybody, As the time is getting close, perhaps now we should think about the tradition started last year (is that an oxymoran or what?) at the Birthday Bash, with the 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award. White it is preferred that winners attend the 2007 Tucson show, where the treasured awards are given away by Geoff Notkin and Steve Brenham Arnold, an exception was made last year. Due to Bernd years of contributions, I would humbly like to nominate list contributor Bernd Pauli for the 2007 People's Choice Harvey Award Nominee. From helping me and others off-list, to providing short references, for your own general meteorite observations, or sharing those such as Buchwald comments, answering questions and the general sharing of information. And interesting to note, in my 5-6 years as a list member, I can not remember one AD by you...surely there is one in those archivessomewhere...:^) A true collector, an honest man and a valued friend of many...I imagine I can speak for most of the list Bernd when I say Thank You! to you and your wife. (Perhaps more so the later or we would never have Bernd in our e-mail boxes). You are model for the list and we do appreciate your efforts. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Kansas Meteorite Society, Founder/Board Member International Meteorite Collectors Association, Co-Founder (Round 2)/Board Member/Treasure Wichita Gem and Mineral Society Member __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Matteo and his hipocritical prices.
Hmmm. So in about four more years, the market might even catch up to my thinking. http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2003/June/Accretion_Desk.htm Cheers, Martin On 12/21/06, Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matteo in Italy, our favorite Italian scam artist, is now selling Park forest at a whopping $48.00 per gram! This after the pile of crap he gave me and others about the price during the fall in 2003. I found this on eBay today and am highly amused (to put it in a nice way) after the many emails full of his spew about the max value and how I was ripping people off by selling Park Forest around ~$10-20 gram during the fall. http://cgi.ebay.com/W0QQitemZ260066014372 WOW, I guess you owe us all an apology Matteo, it seems that I was actually doing the people a great favor, since you are now selling at over 4 times the price, I gave them a great investment. When the next fall occurs (like Moss no less) I fully expect the same barrage of hate-filled garbage from the loser who has never found a fresh fall (except several that fell in his friend's backyard and on the local beaches). Just a little reminder that this guy is to full of crap it isn't even funny. :meteorite-list] Opsss...Park Forest is go to $7.25/gr. M come Meteorite Meteorites Mon, 25 Aug 2003 06:48:48 + Hello all How had I expected time does, the price of the Park Forest is itself stabilized... after the $16/gr. then the $10/gr. now arrived at $7.25/gr. Besides I have information a PF of 245 gr. was sold for $1.50/gr. from an inhabitant of the place to a collector. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2188285311category=3239rd=1 regards Matteo: And another email: RE: [meteorite-list] Opsss...Park Forest is go to $7.25/gr. M come Meteorite Meteorites Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:59:43 + yes but if you see is all not sold...now people want for low price the PFended the time of the $40-80-120/gr. I have persons sale PF for max $16/gr. now, not over.and others go direct in PF and buy a 245 gr. piece for $1.5/gr. another thanks to the persons put on ebay material buy normaly for high prices and now go ruined! Matteo: AND Yet another Damning email from Matteo: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fairprice? Tim Heitz Sat, 29 Mar 2003 04:21:09 -0800 That is 7 times what they paid for it, your saying thats a fair price. Tim Heitz M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote: Crazy, over the price of a historical fall.for me a price of $7/gr. max. is ok. No over. If is fall many kilos is another question. regards Matteo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
Please submit my vote for Bernd. He is truly a knowledgeable and good(and always positive!)person. Thank You Mike __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
I'd like to nominate Chicago Steve Arnold for the prestigious .Oh, wait a minute, this thread isn't about the Annual Meteoritic Golden Raspberry (Razzie) Award...sorry Folks. All kidding aside, Of course, without any hesitation or moral reservation, I concur that Bernd Pauli is the quintessential nominee for the People's Choice Harvey Award. Best regards to all of you, Paul Martyn Savannah, Georgia __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-dealers.com DeRusse and company
--- Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I do not know who Mr. DeRusse is I don't think this applies to me. If oone wants to play with the big boys and girls meteoritically speaking one needs to know the material. This is yet another Meteorite 101 (ok maybe 201) subject one should review. Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
I can't think of a better choice this year. Great suggestion Mark Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com Of course, without any hesitation or moral reservation, I concur that Bernd Pauli is the quintessential nominee for the People's Choice Harvey Award. Best regards to all of you, Paul Martyn Savannah, Georgia __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
Hi Mark, Zelimir and all List Members, There is definitely no better choice than Bernd and I hope that the fact it was public instead of private won't be a problem. Definitely Bernd deserves this nomination more than any other member of this List. Have a nice evening and 'oeuf de course' an excellent X-Mas New Year! Best wishes, Frederic - Original Message - From: Zelimir Gabelica [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee Mark, List Bernd is by no means the best candidate deserving such a nomination. I hope that even though I can't attend Tucson, I can feel free to second the proposal, personally but also on behalf of many silent listees from my area who are enjoying Bernd's scientific (and personal) contributions related to meteorites and alike on the list and who are by no means honored to have him as friend. Excellent idea Mark! Best wishes for 2007 to all, Zelimir At 03:53 AM 12/21/2006, MARK BOSTICK wrote: Hello Everybody, As the time is getting close, perhaps now we should think about the tradition started last year (is that an oxymoran or what?) at the Birthday Bash, with the 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award. White it is preferred that winners attend the 2007 Tucson show, where the treasured awards are given away by Geoff Notkin and Steve Brenham Arnold, an exception was made last year. Due to Bernd years of contributions, I would humbly like to nominate list contributor Bernd Pauli for the 2007 People's Choice Harvey Award Nominee. From helping me and others off-list, to providing short references, for your own general meteorite observations, or sharing those such as Buchwald comments, answering questions and the general sharing of information. And interesting to note, in my 5-6 years as a list member, I can not remember one AD by you...surely there is one in those archivessomewhere...:^) A true collector, an honest man and a valued friend of many...I imagine I can speak for most of the list Bernd when I say Thank You! to you and your wife. (Perhaps more so the later or we would never have Bernd in our e-mail boxes). You are model for the list and we do appreciate your efforts. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Kansas Meteorite Society, Founder/Board Member International Meteorite Collectors Association, Co-Founder (Round 2)/Board Member/Treasure Wichita Gem and Mineral Society Member Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Matteo and his hipocritical prices.
Matteo, so you refuse to admit the obvious, that you tried to cause me a lot of trouble when the fall happened, saying that I was overcharging for Park Forest, and here 3 yeas later, you are charging FOUR TIMES the price. Talk about a hypocrite Matteo, I had better not ever see you post about me and prices again. Michael Farmer --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you are only a poor crybaby, uheuhe.ah, now its 6 persons interested in the piece thanks for your email idiot - Original Message - Da : Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Matteo and his hipocritical prices. Data : Thu, 21 Dec 2006 08:16:46 -0800 (PST) Matteo in Italy, our favorite Italian scam artist, is now selling Park forest at a whopping $48.00 per gram! This after the pile of crap he gave me and others about the price during the fall in 2003. I found this on eBay today and am highly amused (to put it in a nice way) after the many emails full of his spew about the max value and how I was ripping people off by selling Park Forest around ~$10-20 gram during the fall. http://cgi.ebay.com/W0QQitemZ260066014372 WOW, I guess you owe us all an apology Matteo, it seems that I was actually doing the people a great favor, since you are now selling at over 4 times the price, I gave them a great investment. When the next fall occurs (like Moss no less) I fully expect the same barrage of hate-filled garbage from the loser who has never found a fresh fall (except several that fell in his friend's backyard and on the local beaches). Just a little reminder that this guy is to full of crap it isn't even funny. :meteorite-list] Opsss...Park Forest is go to $7.25/gr. M come Meteorite Meteorites Mon, 25 Aug 2003 06:48:48 + Hello all How had I expected time does, the price of the Park Forest is itself stabilized... after the $16/gr. then the $10/gr. now arrived at $7.25/gr. Besides I have information a PF of 245 gr. was sold for $1.50/gr. from an inhabitant of the place to a collector. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2188285311category=3239rd=1 regards Matteo: And another email: RE: [meteorite-list] Opsss...Park Forest is go to $7.25/gr. M come Meteorite Meteorites Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:59:43 + yes but if you see is all not sold...now people want for low price the PFended the time of the $40-80-120/gr. I have persons sale PF for max $16/gr. now, not over.and others go direct in PF and buy a 245 gr. piece for $1.5/gr. another thanks to the persons put on ebay material buy normaly for high prices and now go ruined! Matteo: AND Yet another Damning email from Matteo: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fairprice? Tim Heitz Sat, 29 Mar 2003 04:21:09 -0800 That is 7 times what they paid for it, your saying thats a fair price. Tim Heitz M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote: Crazy, over the price of a historical fall.for me a price of $7/gr. max. is ok. No over. If is fall many kilos is another question. regards Matteo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-dealers.com DeRusse and company
Elton, This makes no sense at all. Taking someone to task about a relationship that does not exist is ridiculous. In fact, I did research Mr. DeRusse in the archives and his website is not and has never been meteorite-dealers.com. Perhaps you could research some yourself before making suggestions like this. Gary On 21 Dec 2006 at 10:04, Mr EMan wrote: --- Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I do not know who Mr. DeRusse is I don't think this applies to me. If oone wants to play with the big boys and girls meteoritically speaking one needs to know the material. This is yet another Meteorite 101 (ok maybe 201) subject one should review. Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] biggest taggish lake
i guess if it dissolves in water (has anybody ever tried it?) a dive would be a waste of air. but just HOW BIG is the biggest piece of this meteorite known?! i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Mr EMan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Gerald Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED],mckinney trammell [EMAIL PROTECTED],Rick Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED], Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] biggest taggish lakeDate: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 21:45:09 -0800 (PST)Ok I read what you said BUT what I was asking aboutis why did you make the comment that this was aninteresting hypothesis? I had hoped to hear fromMcKinney as to why he though so as well.As to Tagish Lake's terrestrial attributes it isanything but resistant.I wonder where this idea came from that it isresistant to water. What is the basis? Not trying topick a fight just find the source of this statement soI can read for myself.Elton--- Gerald Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Elton, I live in Plymouth MA (snip)a significant find. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: "Mr EMan"How so? Elton --- Gerald Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting hypothesis. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: mckinney trammell the metal-based ones probably would not be worth an air fill. but the carbon ones should bewater resistant.__Meteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio powered by Pandora. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 23 gram BARWELL for $465
this one daollar NO RESERVE TWENTY THREE GRAM BARWELL CHRISTMAS EVE METEORITE IS ONLY $456 LOUSY BUX right now- a super opportunity for a dealer for resell since ALL dealers sell it for $100/ gram: http://cgi.ebay.com/23-gram-HAMMER-Barwell-England-Christmas-meteorite_W0QQitemZ290062696170QQihZ019QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio powered by Pandora. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
Michael and fellow list members, The Harvey Awards are at the discretion of their founders, Geoff Notkin and Steve Arnold. The ONLY exception was when last year people rose up and demanded that they, themselves receive the award for their estimable and unquestionable contributions to the meteorite world. If I am right (and, as my wife daily reminds me, I am often wrong) then The Harvey Awards are and should be solely at the discretion of Geoff and Steve. Therefore, any such nomination should have been made directly (and privately) to them. Your an honest fun person passionate about meteorites Michael, however I wish you would have checked the archives, before making this e-mail, which sort of cast a cloud over me. I still love you Michael. (In a cool meteorite dude sort of way...of course). Now moving alongplease say hello to Angel for me. (That's Michael's wife for the dozen or so that didn't know). You are correct...for the most part. The Harvey Awards are the discretion of the founders. It even says that on the award certificates...along with a few other zappy comments. Those that have attended the parties are now hearing those zappy comments in their head in Geoff's voice (or at least I am.) First, How could it be a Peoples Choice award, it was just me talking with Geoff or Steve? Many give me a lot of credit for the things I have done, and perhaps, more then I deserve but I am not a people. I only weigh like 125 lbs. By default I am only one or maybe ¾ of a person. (But a very big ¾ ;^) The nature of the award, makes it public and all I did was nominate. But I think you can say the people again, rose up and demanded. Looking through the January 2006 archives, Greg Hupes came up with the People's Choice Award ideal. A good share of thread developed so please go check the archives if you wish. I will use this paragraph instead to thank Greg for his great ideal and give him proper credit. Here is Greg's comment 1-24-2006 comment: I know that Geoff and Steve originally set up the Harvey Awards where they could not nominate themselves for an award. I would like all list members to join me here on the list to nominate these fine gentleman for a Harvey Award an encourage them to make a new category where they could receive an award if enough of us voted YES to this. Maybe they could create a People's Choice award or something along these lines. When Geoff accepted the award, he wrote (1-25-2006); I have one request/suggestion: let's make the People's Choice an annual event, so that each year, you can all vote for some deserving person(s) for a Harvey. Also, Geoff mentioned to me last year at the party about keeping the IMCA involved in the award, if you remember, the IMCA president, our treasured Anne, gave out the award. Since I am an IMCA board member, I took it upon myself, meaning other IMCA board members where not taken conference with fellow board members, to take up Geoff's wish to make it annual, and state the obvious. Bernd should have an award. Even if Geoff had not said that Michael, I was taking up president. I do spend a lot of time and money, traveling with short term displays (a fall out of how I have been display now that the museum downtown is going bye-bye and the library wants an eight month notice and won't let me do a concurrent talk with it), being a board member on the IMCA and the Kansas Meteorite Society, making donations and promoting meteorites in various manners. Surely I have earned enough points with the general meteorite collecting community and the Harvey Award Committee to ne able to suggest such. One might even note, that last year two People's Choice awards were given, and Geoff did note some deserving person(s) for a Harvey. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Experts Split Over Photo Of 'Meteor' in England
http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/edinburgh.cfm?id=1896632006 Experts split over photo of 'meteor' ANDREW PICKEN Edinburgh Evening News December 21, 2006 AT first he froze with fear as what appeared to be a burning aeroplane dropped from the sky towards a Midlothian field. But when he realised he wasn't witnessing an aviation disaster unfold as he took his daughter to school, David Carson reached for his camera. For the next ten minutes, the 40-year-old took dozens of pictures of a strange streak of light across the Lothians sky that eventually broke into an orange glow and then appeared to hit the ground. A frantic call to police confirmed to Mr Carson that it wasn't a downed aircraft, but astronomers today were at odds about what the phenomenon actually could have been. Professor John Peacock, of the Institute for Astronomy at the University of Edinburgh, said it had probably been a meteor fireball. But acclaimed astronomer Alan Pickup was adamant the strange streak of glowing cloud was simply a condensation trial from a passing aircraft. Mr Carson was just getting into his van to take his 14-year-old daughter Jane to school when a peculiar flash of light in the sky to the east caught his eye. I saw a vapour trail that looked like it belonged to a plane then below it was this really strange streak of light, explained the furniture restorer and amateur photographer, who had taken his camera out with him to capture the frosty sunrise on Monday morning. I honestly thought a plane had been blown out the sky at first and just panicked. I was shouting at Jane, 'What do I do? What do I do?'. I grabbed the camera and started taking pictures of the streak as it got nearer to the ground. A bit at the front appeared to break off and turned bright orange before looking like it crashed into the ground. I was really all over the place because I didn't know if it was the end of the world or what, it was such a strange sight. The incident, which took place about one mile south of Penicuik near to Ravensneuk Farm, lasted about ten minutes from 8.30am on Monday morning. The fireball - if that is indeed what it was - would have crashed to Earth about a couple of miles east of the A701 Peebles Road. If the rock hit the earth it would be classed as a meteorite rather than a meteor. Professor John Peacock, of the Institute for Astronomy at the University of Edinburgh, said: It is probably a meteor fireball - quite a rare and spectacular example, and well worth publishing. However, a spokesman for the British Geological Survey said that there had been no seismic activity that could have been caused by a meteorite strike in the Penicuik area during the time of the incident. Astronomy writer Alan Pickup said he thought the streak was simply a vapour condensation trail from an overhead aircraft. He said: Condensation streaks in the direction of the rising sun can look very odd but there is no way this was a meteor. There are a lot of false sightings because of conditions like this but if it had been a meteor then it would occurred a lot quicker than this and would have been much brighter. A police spokeswoman confirmed officers attended Mr Carson's home and made inquiries with the British Geological Survey and British Airport Authority. The facts Meteors are fragments of space rock that burn up in the atmosphere, and can be viewed as a light that shoots across the sky. A meteorite can survive the intense heat generated as it enters the atmosphere and impact with the Earth's surface without being destroyed. When in outer space, the rocks are known as a meteoroids. Larger chunks of space rock often appear as fast moving fireballs - sometimes known as brilliant meteors. There are thought to be an estimated 500 meteorites, ranging in size from marbles to basketballs, that hit the Earth's surface each year, although only a handful are reported to scientists. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
Hi Mark and all, Bernd is everything you say he is and much, much more and a very worthy nominee. We should all model ourselves after this outstanding contributor to the list as well as his kind behavior. He is truly a gift to us all! --AL Mitterling MARK BOSTICK wrote: A true collector, an honest man and a valued friend of many...I imagine I can speak for most of the list Bernd when I say Thank You! to you and your wife. (Perhaps more so the later or we would never have Bernd in our e-mail boxes). You are model for the list and we do appreciate your efforts. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Free Meteorite Dealer Listings - Last Post
Dear Gary and List Members, I apologize to the list members for taking up list space and this will be my last post on this subject. In defense of Gary, the meteorite dealers site in question is http://www.meteoritedealers.com/ and I'm absolutely positive that Gary has nothing to do with this site or it's owners. In defense of my 1000 visits per day statement please view the following screen print. http://www.meteorite.com/stats_122106.jpg We started with a new hosting company in May so May's results are not for a full month. Our stats require our server username and password which I won't post here. If anyone does not trust the graphic I will furnish a 3rd party with the information for verification. I think the stats speak for themselves. Our daily average visits is June 2006 = 783 July 2006 = 774 August 2006 = 760 September 2006 = 816 October 2006 = 932 November 2006 = 976 December 2006 through the 20th is averaging 1087 visits per day. As for Gary's posting statistics. here is a graphical representation http://www.meteorite.com/posts.jpg I only included December's posts up to his announcement. I'm not a statistician so you can make up your own conclusions. I would appreciate it if someone would check my accuracy on the list archives by author as I've been up for close to 24 hours now and getting fuzzy headed. http://www.meteoritecentral.com/archives.shtml If I've made any mistakes, please post a correction and I apologize in advance but this is my final post on this subject. Gary, you're fairly new to the list and still have lots to learn. You might start by reviewing the links in your right hand column under Services/Supplies. I'm surprised it's still there after a year. I would have thought someone would have said something to you by now. http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/ Paul Harris __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
Hi Zelimir, When I read the beginning of your message, I thought you were about to suggest nominating a name OTHER than Bernd -- which of course would be perfectly fine to do. Only upon reading your whole message did it occur to me that, as good as your English is (which is excellent by the way), it isn't your first language, so you wouldn't necessarily realize the unintentionally humorous errors in your post: Bernd is by no means the best candidate deserving such a nomination. I think what you meant to say was something like Bernd is by all measures the best candidate deserving such a nomination. The way you've worded it, you're suggesting that Bernd isn't even close to being the best choice (implying that you can think of many others more deserving). ;-) I'm pretty sure it's just a translation oddity from French to English, as you use the by no means phrase (again, with humorous result) at the end of your post: ...on behalf of many silent listees from my area who ... are by no means honored to have him as friend. I'm sure your intent was, of course, very honored. ;-) I certainly agree that Bernd is an excellent choice assuming public nomination for a Harvey Prize is acceptable protocol. Best wishes and Joyeux Noël from across the Pond, Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zelimir Gabelica Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 8:29 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee Mark, List Bernd is by no means the best candidate deserving such a nomination. I hope that even though I can't attend Tucson, I can feel free to second the proposal, personally but also on behalf of many silent listees from my area who are enjoying Bernd's scientific (and personal) contributions related to meteorites and alike on the list and who are by no means honored to have him as friend. Excellent idea Mark! Best wishes for 2007 to all, Zelimir __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-dealers.com DeRusse and company
I think what happened is that Gary found an open domain and registered it. DeRusse may have owned it in the past but it expired (Which happens if you dont pay for it after a year). So Dirk asked Gary a valid question of course and it looks like we all got an acceptable answer. On another note since its free you should probably join up just as it affects google rankings. I have been playing around a lot with google search recently and am learning what gets higher rankings on google (Part of my pitifully dismal effort to start an advertising business using google ads which anybody who went to my website for my sale yesterday have already seen). A really big thing that affects your google ranking is the number of unique sites that link to you. Google gives users what they (Or their spider) thinks is the most relivant search results to your query and their reasoning is that if lots of sites link to you you probably have an interesting website that people would want to see. So this means that Basically if all meteorite dealers got together and created a link to each other it would help everybodys google rankings (Even if there was no link from your main website that you show people - googles spider pikes up the links even if they are on your 187th page on your site). If enough people are interested in doing a links page send me an email and I will set up some html). Google keeps their exact spidering formula secret and is ever changing anyway (Lots of companies spend a lot of money trying to figure out the google logorithm). Google even keeps track of how long you stay on a webpage and how many links on the page that you browse. Staying longer and clicking more links means a more interesting website (In theory anyway) and might help rankings. Google claims that buying google ads wont affect your ranking either good or bad but this is not true as by buying ads other websites has links to you (wither they want to or not) so it gets affected in a roundabout way anyway as more sites are linking to you. As I said above, if enough dealers want to create a links page so that googles spider will find lots of sites linking to you send me an email and I will create some html links by putting them all together and everybody can put it on their website. I have no plans to do this as a business (The business seems pretty crowded already anyway it seems) and it wont be updated after the innitial effort because it it got updated one new entry would mean everybody would have to continually update their website which is to much effort. Cheers DEAN http://www.meteoriteshop.com/index.html --- Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elton, This makes no sense at all. Taking someone to task about a relationship that does not exist is ridiculous. In fact, I did research Mr. DeRusse in the archives and his website is not and has never been meteorite-dealers.com. Perhaps you could research some yourself before making suggestions like this. Gary On 21 Dec 2006 at 10:04, Mr EMan wrote: --- Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I do not know who Mr. DeRusse is I don't think this applies to me. If oone wants to play with the big boys and girls meteoritically speaking one needs to know the material. This is yet another Meteorite 101 (ok maybe 201) subject one should review. Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake
Problem is David they failed to map the entire field -- just the lake and they didn't recover all the mapped fragments, or so I am lead to believe. I think there were less than 6 plots on land( all adjacent to the shore) out of what 300? plots on the lake surface. Yes perhaps we can project the map and then look for large spots of mud which were meteoritical materials. Especially what would have been a car sized main mass. At most we have a slice of the field with no orientations other than satellite tracking. Was this down center line or on the southern fringe? It has been a few years but I think this lake runs North South along it's axis which is perpendicular to the apparent fall line. The lesson which should have been learned is that when these happen there should be be a list of willing and able warm bodies willing to deploy to the location to do the science and keep to any agreements that the Chief Scientist implements. In this case all the volunteers were ignored and their offers declined. If we ever have a fall on US Government lands we will take years to get a plan approved for there is no provision even at the Smithsonian for establishing a reaction team. We will then lament that loss as well for the rest of our lives. Elton --- David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But Michael, think of the potential value that the strewn field map may provide us someday (I know I'm not smart enough to imagine it). Maybe Richard and Roland could spell out for us the great importance of such a map. David Michael Farmer wrote: ... You can all forget about recovery of more Tagish Lake meteorites. The Canadians lost it all when they closed off the site to all but a few people, who took two months to make a neat little map of locations of pieces frozen into the ice, then lost them all when a fast thaw came along. Great job scientists, you lost 99% of the rarest meteorite fall on the planet because you wanted to keep it all secret and to yourselves __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
I can think of none other. Bernd has been a constant, level headed and damn near impossible to stump member of this list. He might be a robot though, can robots accept awards? Cheers to you Bernd, and to the wonderful Pauline. Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake
Hi David and all, I doubt that Richard will take the time to offer this strewn field data as he is often times busy checking ebay auctions for possible violation of illegal auctions for Canadian cultural heritage property being sold on ebay in the form of meteorites. Ohhh, he also turns you in to the Canadian Mounted Police for selling legitimate diamonds exported from his country. Did I mention posts to the list are forwarded also when there not to his liking regarding Canadian research. Nothing left to chance. --AL David Weir wrote: But Michael, think of the potential value that the strewn field map may provide us someday (I know I'm not smart enough to imagine it). Maybe Richard and Roland could spell out for us the great importance of such a map. David __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] nwa 482
Wow,as dave harris said,what a fantastic score.I finally got my piece of nwa 482,lunar slice.Thanks to mr.nwa 482,jim strope.He gave me a deal I can not beat.A.27 gram slice with crust and black shock veins.Wow what a piece.I have been looking for a piece for a long tim.eThanks again jim. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
Hello, Bernd already has earned the respect, admiration, and appreciation for his selfless educational contributions which he continues to provide to this list. The Harvey Award would only be a small affirmation of our gratitude. David __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake
I tried day after day for weeks while in Canada to get a chance to work with them. I offered to help out, and be searched every day so that they would know I was not taking any material. I was laughed at and declined any participation in this since I was not Canadian. The map of the strewnfield is just a tiny slice of the fall area, it was the only area that could be searched as the mountains there are extremly high and steep, nevertheless, the map is useless since the stones were lost, so there is not even a idea of size ditribution (which in of itself could have been usefull). So indeed, the map is worthless, simply a bunch of dots on a paper, nothing more, no weights, no sizes, and a totally incomplete map. Mike Farmer --- Mr EMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problem is David they failed to map the entire field -- just the lake and they didn't recover all the mapped fragments, or so I am lead to believe. I think there were less than 6 plots on land( all adjacent to the shore) out of what 300? plots on the lake surface. Yes perhaps we can project the map and then look for large spots of mud which were meteoritical materials. Especially what would have been a car sized main mass. At most we have a slice of the field with no orientations other than satellite tracking. Was this down center line or on the southern fringe? It has been a few years but I think this lake runs North South along it's axis which is perpendicular to the apparent fall line. The lesson which should have been learned is that when these happen there should be be a list of willing and able warm bodies willing to deploy to the location to do the science and keep to any agreements that the Chief Scientist implements. In this case all the volunteers were ignored and their offers declined. If we ever have a fall on US Government lands we will take years to get a plan approved for there is no provision even at the Smithsonian for establishing a reaction team. We will then lament that loss as well for the rest of our lives. Elton --- David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But Michael, think of the potential value that the strewn field map may provide us someday (I know I'm not smart enough to imagine it). Maybe Richard and Roland could spell out for us the great importance of such a map. David Michael Farmer wrote: ... You can all forget about recovery of more Tagish Lake meteorites. The Canadians lost it all when they closed off the site to all but a few people, who took two months to make a neat little map of locations of pieces frozen into the ice, then lost them all when a fast thaw came along. Great job scientists, you lost 99% of the rarest meteorite fall on the planet because you wanted to keep it all secret and to yourselves __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
My vote for BERND too. He has truly earned it. What would the list be without him? Merry Christmas and a Happy and Prosperous New Year to all of you! From Down-Under, Norbert Kammel IMCA # 3420 www.rocksonfire.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake
Al and All, I guess I should be extra careful not to be too vocal about my GORGEOUS slice of the rare EH-IMB Abee meteorite. Extra thin and weighs 1.45 grams. Beautiful features from this rare historic Canadian fall. So if you are interested then please let me know off list and do so very very quietly. ;) tett - Original Message - From: almitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake Hi David and all, I doubt that Richard will take the time to offer this strewn field data as he is often times busy checking ebay auctions for possible violation of illegal auctions for Canadian cultural heritage property being sold on ebay in the form of meteorites. Ohhh, he also turns you in to the Canadian Mounted Police for selling legitimate diamonds exported from his country. Did I mention posts to the list are forwarded also when there not to his liking regarding Canadian research. Nothing left to chance. --AL David Weir wrote: But Michael, think of the potential value that the strewn field map may provide us someday (I know I'm not smart enough to imagine it). Maybe Richard and Roland could spell out for us the great importance of such a map. David __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake
Hi, List, Here is a narrative of the Canadian recovery effort in the form of personal logs or diaries by the searchers and finders: http://aquarid.physics.uwo.ca/~pbrown/Videos/recovery_article.htm It details everything that all the recoverers did and when. You can judge the recovery effort for yourself. The fireball was Jan, 18. The meteorites on Tagish Lake were found by Jim Brook on Jan. 25. He picked up 17, about 1 kilo total, and freezer-bagged them and put them in his freezer. He lives in the area (very few do) and was given the bags and asked to look out for possible meteorites. He found them while driving his pickup truck across the frozen lake. On Jan. 27, a blizzard covered the lake and the meteorites. Brook took the meteorites to the Yukon Geoscience Office in Whitehorse and they called in Peter Brown, who called in Alan Hildebrandt. They identified them right away and started lining up money. On Feb. 15-27, the first recovery expedition went to Tagish. They interviewed every witness and collected photos and videos of the fall. They couldn't find any meteorites on the lake. McCausland and Plotkin, of the U. of Western Ontario carried out the second expedition, April 6-May 10. With favorable weather conditions, this expedition found some 410 meteorite sites in a strewnfield approximately 16 kilometers long by three kilometers wide, and managed to recover about 200 of these meteorites. That's a summary of the discovery. The URL contains a long and full personal account, each, by Brown, McCausland, and Plotkin in the URL given above. It is a very interesting meteorite story which I recommend as a good read. There's a lot to be learned from it. Log of the Recovery: Even though I stumbled across the Tagish Lake Recovery Log of every specimen while Googling, it was hard to find again. The original is a .doc file (for MSWord): http://meteoritics.org/Online%20Supplements/Hildebrand_online%20tables.doc Here's the Google cache, which is in HTML, which may be more accessible for some: http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:TuhAYNW3BYoJ:meteoritics.org/Online%2520Supplements/Hildebrand_online%2520tables.doc+HG-04+Not+a+meteorite+--+dunghl=engl=usct=clnkcd=2 This document has a complete record of every find, with remarks and description of each individual stone, and summarries of witness statements, also worth looking through. The incoming object was about 200,000 kilograms, 5 feet in diameter (if spherical), and it fragmented in a burst equal to 2000 to 3000 tons of TNT. Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake But Michael, think of the potential value that the strewn field map may provide us someday (I know I'm not smart enough to imagine it). Maybe Richard and Roland could spell out for us the great importance of such a map. David Michael Farmer wrote: ... You can all forget about recovery of more Tagish Lake meteorites. The Canadians lost it all when they closed off the site to all but a few people, who took two months to make a neat little map of locations of pieces frozen into the ice, then lost them all when a fast thaw came along. Great job scientists, you lost 99% of the rarest meteorite fall on the planet because you wanted to keep it all secret and to yourselves __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Free Meteorite Dealer Listings - Last Post
Paul, Thanks for posting your site's stats. They do show you get more visitors than my site. I understand that your site covers a lot more than simply dealer listings, so I am not surprised at the difference in visits. Mine is much more specialized and reaches out to people looking for meteorites for sale almost exclusively. Perhaps this explains why your site sees more traffic than mine. As for my metlist-posting stats which you graphically illustrated, I unsubscribed for some months this summer. When I came back onboard in November my posting stats naturally rose once more. This was definitely not an attempt to plump my postings, but a natural outcome of my time offlist. Also, thank you for pointing out some dead links on my site. They have been corrected or removed as necessary, along with a site redesign. I do hope we can be friendly competitors instead of being 'on different sides of the fence'. I understand that there was some confusion between my site, http://www.meteorite-dealers.com and another [apparently unsavory] person's site, http://www.meteoritedealers.cvom. The dash is all important in differentiating between the two. Though I may be new to the Metlist I understand email lists and their etiquette fully as I taught, and still teach, email marketing [including email lists and their uses] beginning in 1994. It is only meteorics that I am still learning about here at Metlist. So, let's be friends and shake hande - at least virtually. We can easily co-exist peacefully without cluttering the list with arguments and competetive statements - of which I am not exclusively guilty. Regards, Gary Foote http://www.meteorite-dealers.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 21 Dec 2006 at 11:39, Paul Harris wrote: Dear Gary and List Members, I apologize to the list members for taking up list space and this will be my last post on this subject. In defense of Gary, the meteorite dealers site in question is http://www.meteoritedealers.com/ and I'm absolutely positive that Gary has nothing to do with this site or it's owners. In defense of my 1000 visits per day statement please view the following screen print. http://www.meteorite.com/stats_122106.jpg We started with a new hosting company in May so May's results are not for a full month. Our stats require our server username and password which I won't post here. If anyone does not trust the graphic I will furnish a 3rd party with the information for verification. I think the stats speak for themselves. Our daily average visits is June 2006 = 783 July 2006 = 774 August 2006 = 760 September 2006 = 816 October 2006 = 932 November 2006 = 976 December 2006 through the 20th is averaging 1087 visits per day. As for Gary's posting statistics. here is a graphical representation http://www.meteorite.com/posts.jpg I only included December's posts up to his announcement. I'm not a statistician so you can make up your own conclusions. I would appreciate it if someone would check my accuracy on the list archives by author as I've been up for close to 24 hours now and getting fuzzy headed. http://www.meteoritecentral.com/archives.shtml If I've made any mistakes, please post a correction and I apologize in advance but this is my final post on this subject. Gary, you're fairly new to the list and still have lots to learn. You might start by reviewing the links in your right hand column under Services/Supplies. I'm surprised it's still there after a year. I would have thought someone would have said something to you by now. http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/ Paul Harris __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
Bernd, Jahvol! Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 4:53 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee I would humbly like to nominate list contributor Bernd Pauli for the 2007 People's Choice Harvey Award Nominee. Mark Bostick __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake
Thanks Sterling, that's pretty interesting how they logged things. Not very CRMish (my minor is in anthro) and you can see the where even a paleo background would have helped in recovery. Hind sight is 20/20 and it's easy to critic what they did wrong and what they lost, but these were people who should have put out more effort into the organization and having someone who has done previous expeditions to remote and isolated areas was located right in southern Alberta (and he's a geologist as well as world class paleontologist) who could have easily helped them with what they would need and what they should do. It's often this way where one field will not bring in another field. Causes a lot of loss to the world of science and history. They were creative, but it almost appeared that interviewing was more important early on than recovery. Since they had confirmed pieces and a location, interviews become secondary information to fill in after the fact. And then, when recovery did occur, it was makeshift (Aunt Jemima bottles) and the diaries left a lot unsaid I'd say. And it was obvious that even though time was critical, they didn't ask for more manpower from the universities in western Canada (UBC has a great geology and archaeology department, and there are two other universities in southern British Columbia also). It is often thus when governments are allowed to rush in on something, the hush hush, mine mine mentality. But thanks for the links, you've done great! Mark Ferguson - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake Hi, List, Here is a narrative of the Canadian recovery effort in the form of personal logs or diaries by the searchers and finders: http://aquarid.physics.uwo.ca/~pbrown/Videos/recovery_article.htm It details everything that all the recoverers did and when. You can judge the recovery effort for yourself. The fireball was Jan, 18. The meteorites on Tagish Lake were found by Jim Brook on Jan. 25. He picked up 17, about 1 kilo total, and freezer-bagged them and put them in his freezer. He lives in the area (very few do) and was given the bags and asked to look out for possible meteorites. He found them while driving his pickup truck across the frozen lake. On Jan. 27, a blizzard covered the lake and the meteorites. Brook took the meteorites to the Yukon Geoscience Office in Whitehorse and they called in Peter Brown, who called in Alan Hildebrandt. They identified them right away and started lining up money. On Feb. 15-27, the first recovery expedition went to Tagish. They interviewed every witness and collected photos and videos of the fall. They couldn't find any meteorites on the lake. McCausland and Plotkin, of the U. of Western Ontario carried out the second expedition, April 6-May 10. With favorable weather conditions, this expedition found some 410 meteorite sites in a strewnfield approximately 16 kilometers long by three kilometers wide, and managed to recover about 200 of these meteorites. That's a summary of the discovery. The URL contains a long and full personal account, each, by Brown, McCausland, and Plotkin in the URL given above. It is a very interesting meteorite story which I recommend as a good read. There's a lot to be learned from it. Log of the Recovery: Even though I stumbled across the Tagish Lake Recovery Log of every specimen while Googling, it was hard to find again. The original is a .doc file (for MSWord): http://meteoritics.org/Online%20Supplements/Hildebrand_online%20tables.doc Here's the Google cache, which is in HTML, which may be more accessible for some: http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:TuhAYNW3BYoJ:meteoritics.org/Online%2520Supplements/Hildebrand_online%2520tables.doc+HG-04+Not+a+meteorite+--+dunghl=engl=usct=clnkcd=2 This document has a complete record of every find, with remarks and description of each individual stone, and summarries of witness statements, also worth looking through. The incoming object was about 200,000 kilograms, 5 feet in diameter (if spherical), and it fragmented in a burst equal to 2000 to 3000 tons of TNT. Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake But Michael, think of the potential value that the strewn field map may provide us someday (I know I'm not smart enough to imagine it). Maybe Richard and Roland could spell out for us the great importance of such a map. David Michael Farmer
[meteorite-list] Colorado weather - Conclusion
Hello again, Here a few more pictures of Denver. As you can see the sun re-appeared late this afternoon. It is supposed to melt some tomorrow but there is another storm headed our way and we are supposed to get just a few more inches Friday night. On the bright side the airport is supposed to re-open by noon tomorrow, they got 3 feet of snow there, with snow drifts up to 5 feet. I am so glad I don't have to go there. And I am nice warm and cozy at home, but my neighbor is still shoveling, he wants to be able to get his car out of the garage tomorrow morning to go to work. Retirement has obvious advantages.:-) http://www.impactika.com/dec06-10.jpg http://www.impactika.com/dec06-14.jpg http://www.impactika.com/dec06-21.jpg http://www.impactika.com/dec06-22.jpg http://www.impactika.com/dec06-26.jpg Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Free Meteorite Dealer Listings - Last Post
Nice friendly e-mail Gary. It will be interesting to watch you put your experience to meteorites. Clear Skies, Mark __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Bill's Comments
Hello Bill and list, Bill made the comment: Go in grace. You have been blessed by Mark but don't forget, he's watching you... He is a very important meteorite person from Kansas. I do not think I am important, or at least other then to few family members and my dog, I am not. (And they are equally as important to me.) I am however active and hopefully, productive. Wishing you are yours a happy holiday Bill, Mark __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Got a pair of Grover Cleveland's to blow?
Get your minds out of the gutter! Gee wiz. Anyway I stumbled across this trio on ABE: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/ListingDetails?bi=837549155cm_la=want Cheers, Martin ps: BTW, who is this Bernd that everyone speaks of? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Matteo and his hipocritical prices.
Farmer shut up you and your meteorites, just you speack of high prices wneh you are the first to sale high material you find for half in other sites. Ah, I have 5 persons interested to the piece, you seen the collectors if they want a piece not seen the priceyou remember what price havent PF when is appear in the market? Well, remember and close the mouths forever Matteo --- Martin Horejsi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Hmmm. So in about four more years, the market might even catch up to my thinking. http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2003/June/Accretion_Desk.htm Cheers, Martin On 12/21/06, Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matteo in Italy, our favorite Italian scam artist, is now selling Park forest at a whopping $48.00 per gram! This after the pile of crap he gave me and others about the price during the fall in 2003. I found this on eBay today and am highly amused (to put it in a nice way) after the many emails full of his spew about the max value and how I was ripping people off by selling Park Forest around ~$10-20 gram during the fall. http://cgi.ebay.com/W0QQitemZ260066014372 WOW, I guess you owe us all an apology Matteo, it seems that I was actually doing the people a great favor, since you are now selling at over 4 times the price, I gave them a great investment. When the next fall occurs (like Moss no less) I fully expect the same barrage of hate-filled garbage from the loser who has never found a fresh fall (except several that fell in his friend's backyard and on the local beaches). Just a little reminder that this guy is to full of crap it isn't even funny. :meteorite-list] Opsss...Park Forest is go to $7.25/gr. M come Meteorite Meteorites Mon, 25 Aug 2003 06:48:48 + Hello all How had I expected time does, the price of the Park Forest is itself stabilized... after the $16/gr. then the $10/gr. now arrived at $7.25/gr. Besides I have information a PF of 245 gr. was sold for $1.50/gr. from an inhabitant of the place to a collector. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2188285311category=3239rd=1 regards Matteo: And another email: RE: [meteorite-list] Opsss...Park Forest is go to $7.25/gr. M come Meteorite Meteorites Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:59:43 + yes but if you see is all not sold...now people want for low price the PFended the time of the $40-80-120/gr. I have persons sale PF for max $16/gr. now, not over.and others go direct in PF and buy a 245 gr. piece for $1.5/gr. another thanks to the persons put on ebay material buy normaly for high prices and now go ruined! Matteo: AND Yet another Damning email from Matteo: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fairprice? Tim Heitz Sat, 29 Mar 2003 04:21:09 -0800 That is 7 times what they paid for it, your saying thats a fair price. Tim Heitz M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote: Crazy, over the price of a historical fall.for me a price of $7/gr. max. is ok. No over. If is fall many kilos is another question. regards Matteo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
I wholeheartedly agree with Mark. My vote is for Bernd. Dave MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everybody, As the time is getting close, perhaps now we should think about the tradition started last year (is that an oxymoran or what?) at the Birthday Bash, with the 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award. White it is preferred that winners attend the 2007 Tucson show, where the treasured awards are given away by Geoff Notkin and Steve Brenham Arnold, an exception was made last year. Due to Bernd years of contributions, I would humbly like to nominate list contributor Bernd Pauli for the 2007 People's Choice Harvey Award Nominee. From helping me and others off-list, to providing short references, for your own general meteorite observations, or sharing those such as Buchwald comments, answering questions and the general sharing of information. And interesting to note, in my 5-6 years as a list member, I can not remember one AD by you...surely there is one in those archivessomewhere...:^) A true collector, an honest man and a valued friend of many...I imagine I can speak for most of the list Bernd when I say Thank You! to you and your wife. (Perhaps more so the later or we would never have Bernd in our e-mail boxes). You are model for the list and we do appreciate your efforts. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Kansas Meteorite Society, Founder/Board Member International Meteorite Collectors Association, Co-Founder (Round 2)/Board Member/Treasure Wichita Gem and Mineral Society Member __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Colorado weather - Conclusion
Hello again, Here a few more pictures of Denver. As you can see the sun re-appeared late this afternoon. It is supposed to melt some tomorrow but there is another storm headed our way and we are supposed to get just a few more inches Friday night. On the bright side the airport is supposed to re-open by noon tomorrow, they got 3 feet of snow there, with snow drifts up to 5 feet. I am so glad I don't have to go there. And I am nice warm and cozy at home, but my neighbor is still shoveling, he wants to be able to get his car out of the garage tomorrow morning to go to work. Retirement has obvious advantages. :-) _http://www.impactika.com/dec06-10.jpg_ (http://www.impactika.com/dec06-1.jpg) _http://www.impactika.com/dec06-14.jpg_ (http://www.impactika.com/dec06-14.jpg) _http://www.impactika.com/dec06-21.jpg_ (http://www.impactika.com/dec06-1.jpg) _http://www.impactika.com/dec06-22.jpg_ (http://www.impactika.com/dec06-1.jpg) _http://www.impactika.com/dec06-26.jpg_ (http://www.impactika.com/dec06-1.jpg) Anne M. Black _www.IMPACTIKA.com_ (http://www.impactika.com/) [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _www.IMCA.cc_ (http://www.imca.cc/) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Recent happenings
And where would we be without the"lunatic fringe"? What a sad gray state that would be. Leechfully yours, Bill -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 01:25:41 -To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSubject: [meteorite-list] Recent happenings Hi all, I’m not much for putting pen to paper, but, I just wanted to get a few things off my chest. First, I wanted to say thanks to all the listees who take the time to post up so many high quality links to pictures. I’ve only been into the rocks for six or so months. I live in sublime ignorance, but, am learning all the way – a lot of it thanks to these pictures and the chains of thought and research they send me off on. Nice one! Second, another thank you to the people who post really cracking technical info. Even a one liner can be of help and interest to someone somewhere – like me. Never think that what you offer, big or small, it won’t find a home. I’ve learned plenty from observing ‘for sale’ ads even. Take encouragement from the excitement and interest which your postings really can generate for a beginner. Thirdly, and sadly, I love a bit of humour, but, the constant banging of one drum gets to desensitise you a bit. I had set my Outlook Rules to bin anything with Steve Arnold in it. Simply because the amount of confetti and trash that kept coming in became a distraction from what I joined the list to achieve. Sure, at the moment I’m a bit of an intellectual leech on the list because I haven’t the knowledge or insight to make a worthwhile contribution, on anything technical. That, I hope, with the patience of so many of you, will change as I learn and expand my interest. Somebody said there’s room for everyone. Respectfully, I disagree. I just don’t think we need the lunatic fringe. Have you ever wondered how many people have joined the list, downloaded loads of postings, found the Steve Arnold saga, or the handbags at twenty paces kind of cat fights which occur occasionally, and briefly? How many then leave the list, or worse, do nothing more and simple bin every posting without reading it because they were turned off by the sludge factor? I like the list and value what it offers me, I challenge us all to extend that to every newbie. I’m now off to go through my deleted files to rescue the Steve Arnold info which I now know I do want and finally shred the apologies and cat fights. Feel free to scold me, slap my wrist or tell me I’m wrong, I’m a big boy, I can take it. Anyway, I’m almost stone deaf, seriously dyslexic, jump at loud noises - thanks to PTSD and rely on a Hearing Dog called Rory. I’ve recently adopted the nickname of ‘Lucky’ and have started to collect stony things and bits of metal that fall out of the sky. So- don’t tell me you’re odd. All the best for the coming Christmas. Peace and goodwill to all. Rev. Scott Liston East Midlands, UK Collecting Meteorites for, oh, say, maybe, whoa! Guess it would be close to twenty minutes or so!!! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Experts Split Over Photo Of 'Meteor' in England
The incident, which took place about one mile south of Penicuik near to Ravensneuk Farm, lasted about ten minutes from 8.30am on Monday morning. Professor John Peacock, of the Institute for Astronomy at the University of Edinburgh, said: It is probably a meteor fireball - quite a rare and spectacular example, and well worth publishing. Lasting ten whole minutes? Could have been a speeding weather balloon? :O) Actually, my money is on the contrails of an airliner before I even think it could have been a meteor. If he fudged the time frame some, due to excitement, could have been an entering satellite also...But a meteor, no way. George Zay __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NO Oman Meteorite classification any more
Dear Dr. Hofman, but you didn't answer the second question: Why did you ask the OMAN GOVERNMENT to write a letter to the Meteoritical Society NOT TO CLASSIFY OMAN METEORITES ANYMORE? With exception of Dr. Hofmann and his team? Why are you not returning most of the masses to OMAN GOVERNMENT back ?? as it would back up the initial idea you are promoting, rather than keeping all of the OMAN METEORITES in your lockers? Dave W.E. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] mauretania - oman meteorites Dear Dave whoever Of course as a scientific institution we handle this officially. I have fully informed the consulate of Mauretania in Zurich about the situation and offered them to discuss this particular case so that it can be handled to conform fully to their legal requirements. With best regards Beda Hofmann At 2:51 Uhr -0500 20.12.2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Dr. Hofmann, why you don't ask the government of Mauretania? Are you classifying an illegal exported meteorite from Mauretania ? Do you have a permission? Why did you ask the OMAN GOVERNMENT to write a letter to the Meteoritical Society NOT TO CLASSIFY OMAN METEORITES ANYMORE? With exception of Dr. Hofmann and his team? Why are you not returning most of the masses to OMAN GOVERNMENT back ?? as it would back up the initial idea you are promoting, rather than keeping all of the OMAN METEORITES in your lockers? The meteoritical community is interested in your answersŠ dave - Original von: Peter Marmet [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On behalf of Beda Hofmann, who's e-mails do not make it to the list at this time: Hello list Does anyone know about a recent fall in Mauretania? I have received a sample of a meteorite that supposedly fell on October 12, 2006. At first I did not believe the story, the stuff looks like El Hammami and probably is also an H. However, first results from low-level gamma-spectroscopy indicate it is really a recent fall (short-lived radionuclides are present). Please let me know if somebody knows that other labs are working on the classification already... Best regards Beda Hofmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- * Dr. Beda Anton Hofmann Konservator, Abteilung Erdwissenschaften / Curator, Earth Science Department Naturhistorisches Museum Bern / Natural History Museum Bern Bernastrasse 15 CH-3005 Bern, Schweiz / Switzerland Tel/Phone +41 31 350 72 40 FAX+41 31 350 74 99 e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nmbe.ch/ * Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] E-bay
Dear List, I was thinking about some of the comments ref. e-bay. I agree that there is a wealth of slime onboard there, but, there are good people also. A few of my very small collection came from British Jurassic Fossils (BJF. At the moment I am retired through ill health but have a young family. I can't possibly justify spending what I would really like to. BJF has provided some relatively inexpensive, in my mind at least, good value items. They always come properly packed, the transactions are spotlessly clean and I have always had exactly what I bid for in the pictures. Now, even if you really don't like e-bay, I challenge you that people like BJF are not providing a far better option for people than the confusing mess amongst some specialist dealers. If dealers don't sort themselves out and work together co-operatively for the sake of the hobby and/or science, then, people will just edit them out one by one and go elsewhere - perhaps even to e-bay? It would help me to know who is above board and who isn't, who is an authority and who isn't or just even who trades honestly and who doesn't. I mean, I'm a theologian and counsellor not a scientist. The thing is there is no way I can ask that on the list -and believe me I am not asking it- because it would spark of another round of handbag duelling. I think that is a real shame. The one place beginners should be able to turn is a known and respected community like the list and find coherent non personal advice. The optimist in me still says it's out there, in the list community, so, I'll stick with it. Peace and love at Christmas Scott attachment: image001.jpg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Merry Christmas and all that white stuff! Delete~weather related
Dear List; SW Wyoming and South to Denver, and west to Nebraska is fun, the Wyoming Dept. of Transportation web site cameras on the following link are rather entertaining. Do we think the meteorites left at Albin are getting any thermal benefit from the cold and insulating snow, or would it be better to be just cold? http://www.wyoroad.info/highway/conditions/dist1.html No doubt a meteorite-white Christmas is in store! Dave F. no new snow in RS __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-dealers.com DeRusse and company
Dear List, Gary; In interest of the new list members who do not know of Mr. DeRusse and company, try a google search of Boggy Creek or Boggy Creek DeRusse and friends... And, this is meteorite/meteorwrong history lesson part 201, thanks Elton. Know your subject. Dave F. Mr EMan wrote: --- Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I do not know who Mr. DeRusse is I don't think this applies to me. If oone wants to play with the big boys and girls meteoritically speaking one needs to know the material. This is yet another Meteorite 101 (ok maybe 201) subject one should review. Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake
Auh, contraire there dear EltonMr. Verish, and a large following of recreational meteorite hunters in the western states have already practiced meteorite recovery on public lands and the Smithsonian, Dr. McCoy I believe have accepted that meteorite hunters in the field do have the ability to preserve the scientific value of such information and to react as recreational meteorite hunters as now is presently approved..I am the Wyoming team leader scary as that is! Dave Freeman Green River Resource Area SW Wyoming Mr EMan wrote: Problem is David they failed to map the entire field -- just the lake and they didn't recover all the mapped fragments, or so I am lead to believe. I think there were less than 6 plots on land( all adjacent to the shore) out of what 300? plots on the lake surface. Yes perhaps we can project the map and then look for large spots of mud which were meteoritical materials. Especially what would have been a car sized main mass. At most we have a slice of the field with no orientations other than satellite tracking. Was this down center line or on the southern fringe? It has been a few years but I think this lake runs North South along it's axis which is perpendicular to the apparent fall line. The lesson which should have been learned is that when these happen there should be be a list of willing and able warm bodies willing to deploy to the location to do the science and keep to any agreements that the Chief Scientist implements. In this case all the volunteers were ignored and their offers declined. If we ever have a fall on US Government lands we will take years to get a plan approved for there is no provision even at the Smithsonian for establishing a reaction team. We will then lament that loss as well for the rest of our lives. Elton --- David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But Michael, think of the potential value that the strewn field map may provide us someday (I know I'm not smart enough to imagine it). Maybe Richard and Roland could spell out for us the great importance of such a map. David Michael Farmer wrote: ... You can all forget about recovery of more Tagish Lake meteorites. The Canadians lost it all when they closed off the site to all but a few people, who took two months to make a neat little map of locations of pieces frozen into the ice, then lost them all when a fast thaw came along. Great job scientists, you lost 99% of the rarest meteorite fall on the planet because you wanted to keep it all secret and to yourselves __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] steve arnold/Steve Arnold - There're two of you? I apologize.
Dave, Steve(s), and list, My ordinary interests, coupled with a shortage of time during regular semesters, limit the threads I read and contribute to (detract from?) - winter break gives me time to participate. Chicago Steve seems to write more frequently than Brenham Steve, and Steve Arnold of Brenham fame has been quiet through this, so, without making a content-based distinction, I prematurely wrote. Steve Arnold with capitals hopefully didn't find this insulting, but of course I can't deny that I associated the dealer in one with the quirks in another - so I guess this should be aimed at both Steves, and not a self-contradictory composite. Maybe seeing the Travel Channel sequence will ingrain a different picture of the man. I'll pay attention in the future before I shoot off my fingers (wait - that doesn't work - or it replaces the cliche put my foot in my mouth). -Thaddeus Dave Freeman mjwy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The CHICAGO Ssteevveee is an idiot and I am very surprised that an academian as your vocabulary points you out to be would be so duped to as not to see this outright. I also think your elementary mistake of confusing the two persons shows your real level of list involvement. The list archives would be your friend if you took the time to read them. Dave F. Thaddeus Besedin wrote: List, I apologize for confusing the two Steves, but I mean what I write. Could the lack of capitalization be an attempt to show this distinction? Or, is Chicago enough? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Got a pair of Grover Cleveland's to blow?
Dear Martin; I have heard that he teaches childrenand has so much time on his hands he collects information on rocks. He keeps to himself most of the time, and never speaks negative of anyoneI could learn from such an individual. Who knows more of this stranger? Dave F. Martin Horejsi wrote: Get your minds out of the gutter! Gee wiz. Anyway I stumbled across this trio on ABE: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/ListingDetails?bi=837549155cm_la=want Cheers, Martin ps: BTW, who is this Bernd that everyone speaks of? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Got a pair of Grover Cleveland's to blow?
Hi, If you've got two Grover Clevelands, you may be in trouble: Notes above the $100 denomination ceased being printed in 1946 and were officially withdrawn from circulation in 1969. These notes were used primarily either in inter-bank transactions or by organized crime; it was the latter usage that prompted President Richard Nixon to issue an executive order in 1969 halting their use. You don't want Richard Nixon after you, do you? Or Lucca Brassi? Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: Martin Horejsi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: metlist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:54 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Got a pair of Grover Cleveland's to blow? Get your minds out of the gutter! Gee wiz. Anyway I stumbled across this trio on ABE: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/ListingDetails?bi=837549155cm_la=want Cheers, Martin ps: BTW, who is this Bernd that everyone speaks of? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Free Meteorite Dealer Listings - Last Post
Dear Gary, Thank you for your post. You still have the link issue on your site so I will email you in private. Merry Christmas! Paul Gary K. Foote wrote: Paul, Thanks for posting your site's stats. They do show you get more visitors than my site. I understand that your site covers a lot more than simply dealer listings, so I am not surprised at the difference in visits. Mine is much more specialized and reaches out to people looking for meteorites for sale almost exclusively. Perhaps this explains why your site sees more traffic than mine. As for my metlist-posting stats which you graphically illustrated, I unsubscribed for some months this summer. When I came back onboard in November my posting stats naturally rose once more. This was definitely not an attempt to plump my postings, but a natural outcome of my time offlist. Also, thank you for pointing out some dead links on my site. They have been corrected or removed as necessary, along with a site redesign. I do hope we can be friendly competitors instead of being 'on different sides of the fence'. I understand that there was some confusion between my site, http://www.meteorite-dealers.com and another [apparently unsavory] person's site, http://www.meteoritedealers.cvom. The dash is all important in differentiating between the two. Though I may be new to the Metlist I understand email lists and their etiquette fully as I taught, and still teach, email marketing [including email lists and their uses] beginning in 1994. It is only meteorics that I am still learning about here at Metlist. So, let's be friends and shake hande - at least virtually. We can easily co-exist peacefully without cluttering the list with arguments and competetive statements - of which I am not exclusively guilty. Regards, Gary Foote http://www.meteorite-dealers.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 21 Dec 2006 at 11:39, Paul Harris wrote: Dear Gary and List Members, I apologize to the list members for taking up list space and this will be my last post on this subject. In defense of Gary, the meteorite dealers site in question is http://www.meteoritedealers.com/ and I'm absolutely positive that Gary has nothing to do with this site or it's owners. In defense of my 1000 visits per day statement please view the following screen print. http://www.meteorite.com/stats_122106.jpg We started with a new hosting company in May so May's results are not for a full month. Our stats require our server username and password which I won't post here. If anyone does not trust the graphic I will furnish a 3rd party with the information for verification. I think the stats speak for themselves. Our daily average visits is June 2006 = 783 July 2006 = 774 August 2006 = 760 September 2006 = 816 October 2006 = 932 November 2006 = 976 December 2006 through the 20th is averaging 1087 visits per day. As for Gary's posting statistics. here is a graphical representation http://www.meteorite.com/posts.jpg I only included December's posts up to his announcement. I'm not a statistician so you can make up your own conclusions. I would appreciate it if someone would check my accuracy on the list archives by author as I've been up for close to 24 hours now and getting fuzzy headed. http://www.meteoritecentral.com/archives.shtml If I've made any mistakes, please post a correction and I apologize in advance but this is my final post on this subject. Gary, you're fairly new to the list and still have lots to learn. You might start by reviewing the links in your right hand column under Services/Supplies. I'm surprised it's still there after a year. I would have thought someone would have said something to you by now. http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/ Paul Harris __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD-Annual Mile High Clearance Sale
Am stuck at home in 3 feet of snow, and want to make some sales. If you see something on my site that you've wanted all year and were afraid to ask, please email me with ANY offers. Really, I may go for it to get the piece off the tax books! - Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Earth Impact Database
Hello Everyone, Here is an interesting website I have not noticed before. The Earth Impact Database: http://www.unb.ca/passc/ImpactDatabase/images/campo.htm There is a good bit of interesting data at the site. Nice compliment to meteoritics. -Walter Branch __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Matteo and his hipocritical prices.
Dear Matteo, Hope you have a very Merry Christmas and Santa Claus (or whoever the gift bringer in Italy is) give you a very large chunk of something carbonaceous. Best to All, John Gwilliam At 10:45 AM 12/21/2006, M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote: Farmer shut up you and your meteorites, just you speack of high prices wneh you are the first to sale high material you find for half in other sites. Ah, I have 5 persons interested to the piece, you seen the collectors if they want a piece not seen the priceyou remember what price havent PF when is appear in the market? Well, remember and close the mouths forever Matteo --- Martin Horejsi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Hmmm. So in about four more years, the market might even catch up to my thinking. http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2003/June/Accretion_Desk.htm Cheers, Martin On 12/21/06, Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matteo in Italy, our favorite Italian scam artist, is now selling Park forest at a whopping $48.00 per gram! This after the pile of crap he gave me and others about the price during the fall in 2003. I found this on eBay today and am highly amused (to put it in a nice way) after the many emails full of his spew about the max value and how I was ripping people off by selling Park Forest around ~$10-20 gram during the fall. http://cgi.ebay.com/W0QQitemZ260066014372 WOW, I guess you owe us all an apology Matteo, it seems that I was actually doing the people a great favor, since you are now selling at over 4 times the price, I gave them a great investment. When the next fall occurs (like Moss no less) I fully expect the same barrage of hate-filled garbage from the loser who has never found a fresh fall (except several that fell in his friend's backyard and on the local beaches). Just a little reminder that this guy is to full of crap it isn't even funny. :meteorite-list] Opsss...Park Forest is go to $7.25/gr. M come Meteorite Meteorites Mon, 25 Aug 2003 06:48:48 + Hello all How had I expected time does, the price of the Park Forest is itself stabilized... after the $16/gr. then the $10/gr. now arrived at $7.25/gr. Besides I have information a PF of 245 gr. was sold for $1.50/gr. from an inhabitant of the place to a collector. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2188285311category=3239rd=1 regards Matteo: And another email: RE: [meteorite-list] Opsss...Park Forest is go to $7.25/gr. M come Meteorite Meteorites Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:59:43 + yes but if you see is all not sold...now people want for low price the PFended the time of the $40-80-120/gr. I have persons sale PF for max $16/gr. now, not over.and others go direct in PF and buy a 245 gr. piece for $1.5/gr. another thanks to the persons put on ebay material buy normaly for high prices and now go ruined! Matteo: AND Yet another Damning email from Matteo: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fairprice? Tim Heitz Sat, 29 Mar 2003 04:21:09 -0800 That is 7 times what they paid for it, your saying thats a fair price. Tim Heitz M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote: Crazy, over the price of a historical fall.for me a price of $7/gr. max. is ok. No over. If is fall many kilos is another question. regards Matteo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
Absolutely... I too could not possibly think of a more worthy nominee! Cheers, Jeff Kuyken Meteorites Australia www.meteorites.com.au - Original Message - From: Rob Wesel To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 8:11 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee I can think of none other. Bernd has been a constant, level headed and damn near impossible to stump member of this list. He might be a robot though, can robots accept awards? Cheers to you Bernd, and to the wonderful Pauline. Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Matteo and his hipocritical prices.
Matteo, your words are there, I have done nothing other than call attention to your hipocracy. You refuse to answer as to why you called me a thief and said that Park Forest was only worth $7.50 gram or o, now you seem to think it is worth $48.00 gram. I used your own words against you, and you call me an idiot? Is this the best Italy can produce? Mike Farmer --- M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr.Spammer its only specialized to broken to the persons that they do not go him well, and he speack speack speack to broken my face, to come here etc...but for the moment I never have seen here face here. Its a good time mr.spammer stop to broken toevery person not have the same idea he have, probably you not have understand Farmer, but you stay on the nuts to many persons for your arrogance...giving a cut Matteo --- Bob Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Matteo- Read the post at the bottom of this message. He was responding to YOUR words. You would have been better served by keeping your own mouth closed. - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Matteo and his hipocritical prices. Farmer shut up you and your meteorites, just you speack of high prices wneh you are the first to sale high material you find for half in other sites. Ah, I have 5 persons interested to the piece, you seen the collectors if they want a piece not seen the priceyou remember what price havent PF when is appear in the market? Well, remember and close the mouths forever Matteo --- Martin Horejsi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Hmmm. So in about four more years, the market might even catch up to my thinking. http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2003/June/Accretion_Desk.htm Cheers, Martin On 12/21/06, Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matteo in Italy, our favorite Italian scam artist, is now selling Park forest at a whopping $48.00 per gram! This after the pile of crap he gave me and others about the price during the fall in 2003. I found this on eBay today and am highly amused (to put it in a nice way) after the many emails full of his spew about the max value and how I was ripping people off by selling Park Forest around ~$10-20 gram during the fall. http://cgi.ebay.com/W0QQitemZ260066014372 WOW, I guess you owe us all an apology Matteo, it seems that I was actually doing the people a great favor, since you are now selling at over 4 times the price, I gave them a great investment. When the next fall occurs (like Moss no less) I fully expect the same barrage of hate-filled garbage from the loser who has never found a fresh fall (except several that fell in his friend's backyard and on the local beaches). Just a little reminder that this guy is to full of crap it isn't even funny. :meteorite-list] Opsss...Park Forest is go to $7.25/gr. M come Meteorite Meteorites Mon, 25 Aug 2003 06:48:48 + Hello all How had I expected time does, the price of the Park Forest is itself stabilized... after the $16/gr. then the $10/gr. now arrived at $7.25/gr. Besides I have information a PF of 245 gr. was sold for $1.50/gr. from an inhabitant of the place to a collector. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2188285311category=3239rd=1 regards Matteo: And another email: RE: [meteorite-list] Opsss...Park Forest is go to $7.25/gr. M come Meteorite Meteorites Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:59:43 + yes but if you see is all not sold...now people want for low price the PFended the time of the $40-80-120/gr. I have persons sale PF for max $16/gr. now, not over.and others go direct in PF and buy a 245 gr. piece for $1.5/gr. another thanks to the persons put on ebay material buy normaly for high prices and now go ruined! Matteo: AND Yet another Damning email from Matteo: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fairprice? Tim Heitz Sat, 29 Mar 2003 04:21:09 -0800 That is 7 times what they paid for it, your saying thats a fair price. Tim Heitz M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote: Crazy, over the price of a historical fall.for === message truncated === __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Peoples Choice
Hi all, Not many others than Bernd deserve this kind of respect. Michael says we have no say in the matter. I think the title Peoples Choice speaks for itself. Old Hippie, Bill ONE-CLICK WEBMAIL ACCESS - Easily monitor access your email accounts! Visit http://www.inbox.com/notifier and check it out! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Bill's Comments (2)
Hello Bill, My main concern with the e-mail to Michael, was not to have it come off as an attack on him, which is the easiest to wrote. So I directed my comments about me rather then Michael, such as I have with you today. Not long ago I would have attacked back. As one of the meteorite people, such is almost expected. I know Michael and he didn't mean anything negative. You are correct, that I likely did give a little too much credits. Most of the list knows me, so that was unneeded. The same point could have been made with half the words or less. To my credit, I could have made the list 10 times longer...and I can put you in touch with a dozen or so of my former editors. All will say I like to overwrite. (I think to much at times). My comment on not talking with other IMCA board members was that these were my own thoughts. I had brought up IMCA in the line before and it has been a concern of mine that something I say will be taken against one of the organizations I am part of. In fact I have been thinking about putting a disclaimer in my signature for this reason. When I noted Geoff's comment, I did have a back thought in mind. There is another on the list that makes major list contributions, and has for years, who like Bernd, does not post ADS and is very good and not showing us negativity or frustration. That person is Ron Baalke. With Ron's e-mails I have been able to keep up NASA and current meteorite news lines, all with just a couple clicks a day. This however is not a nomination, as I did not feel I should nominate two people. I will also note that I definitely should not get a People's Choice award, at least this year ;^) They or it, if one is given, should go to someone who was more active in 2006. It was almost exactly 12 months ago that I closed on the house I live in now. Most of my time of the late was spent settling the home and hanging out with my father, which was a nice change. My father was an airplane contractor in Florida or overseas and I have always worked 100 hours a week. If his grandfather is a good scale, I have another five years with my dad and I am wise enough to not loose them. If it wasnt for the Meteorite Festival and other KMS events, I would not have not touched or talked meteorites for six months. The IMCA and a busier KMS has helped pull me back in. I have never lost that feeling of touching the first meteorite. I hope I never do. I really do wish the best for you and yours Bill. We had our fallout three years ago. I have never been an angry person and have no desire to hold anger, I don't even know how to hold anger at someone when I dont even know them. With all the changes in my life I came up with a new way to try to live and think of life and it makes me a better person I think or hope. My new motto is To Serve. Regardless what you say Bill, or anyone else, I am going to try my best not to say anything negative back. I might be in Chicago soon to visit an old friend. I will also likely try to meet up with Paul Siperia, who I have traded with and who classified our last meteorite. What I mean here is, if you would like, I could likely get us in the backroom visit to examine the Dupont collection. This is not a good list thread in general, it doesnt allow others to respond well and nobody is learning anthing so I will likely not respond again. If I do, it will be off-list, and I will try to make it positive in nature. I do apologize to the general list for the almost off-subject post, but I did say meteorites several times;^) King regards, Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD Agen meteorite on ebay : 1 day left !
Hello to the List, only one day to grab a cool .85 gram slice of Agen (historical french fall). The slice shows an impressive metal flock. With the meteorite you get a copy of the chapter Agen of my book Les Meteorites de France. Link to the auction : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=110069277787 Contact me for shipment prices. Merry Christmas to all of you. Pierre-Marie PELE www.meteor-center.com ___ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD What is wrong with sharing...
Hello AD lovers, haters and otherwise, What is the big deal with AD postings? Some of you jump on some phantom bandwagon in hate of Ad-posters and the love wagon for those who never sell anything. Both types offer a sincere contribution and ADvantage to meteoritics. To post an AD or announce a new meteorite For Sale is not a bad thing. The more new meteorites discovered and offered for science and sale alike the better I say! A non-lemming AD-Poster and New Meteorite-Offerer signing off... Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
