[meteorite-list] Test TEST

2006-12-28 Thread ¤¤PolandMET¤¤
I have not receiving any emails

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Re: [meteorite-list] Test TEST

2006-12-28 Thread Fred Caillou Noir
Do you get this one?
Fred
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Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 1:17 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Test TEST


 I have not receiving any emails
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Test TEST

2006-12-28 Thread ¤¤PolandMET¤¤
hmm then there is no emails on the list ?

then tell me please exact date when start meteorite part of Tucson fair.
Where most dealers stay ? At Suite Inn hotel ?

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 Do you get this one?
 Fred
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 From: ¤¤PolandMET¤¤ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 1:17 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Test TEST


 I have not receiving any emails

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[meteorite-list] AD - FINAL Ebay sale for 2006

2006-12-28 Thread Jim Strope
Good Morning Meteorite Lovers

I have auctions ending tonight catchafallingstar.com.  Most started at 99 
Cents!!!:
http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=catchafallingstar.com

An even better way to look at auctions is by trying out Paul and Jim's 
website recap of ebay auctions.  It puts all the auctions on one page with a 
preview photo even when there is NO preview photo on ebay.  Try it out:

http://www.meteorite.com/meteorites/ebay/catch_a_falling_star_meteorites.htm

Thanks for looking 

Jim Strope
421 Fourth Street
Glen Dale, WV  26038

http://www.catchafallingstar.com


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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - FINAL Ebay sale for 2006

2006-12-28 Thread Gary K. Foote
Hi Jim,

Since I don't sell meteorites I offer live listings for all meteorites on ebay 
at our 
site.  If I ever go into the selling business I will probably do the same thing 
- limit 
sales to my own products only.

Best,

Gary

On 28 Dec 2006 at 9:58, Jim Strope wrote:

 Thanks Gary, I had forgotten about that.
 
 However, the main difference is with the other website, the link that I gave 
 is exclusive to my auctions.  Maybe something for you to consider as I 
 really don't want to promote other people's sales.
 
 Jim Strope
 421 Fourth Street
 Glen Dale, WV  26038
 
 http://www.catchafallingstar.com
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:50 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - FINAL Ebay sale for 2006
 
 
  The same feature is available on meteorite-dealers.com.
 
  http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/ebaysales.html
 
  Gary
 
  On 28 Dec 2006 at 8:04, Jim Strope wrote:
 
  An even better way to look at auctions is by trying out Paul and Jim's
  website recap of ebay auctions.  It puts all the auctions on one page 
  with
  a preview photo even when there is NO preview photo on ebay.  Try it out:
 
 
  
 



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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - FINAL Ebay sale for 2006

2006-12-28 Thread Jim Strope
Didn't this start out as a private email?   Posting it to the list is not 
cool.

Jim Strope
421 Fourth Street
Glen Dale, WV  26038

http://www.catchafallingstar.com


- Original Message - 
From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - FINAL Ebay sale for 2006


 Hi Jim,

 Since I don't sell meteorites I offer live listings for all meteorites on 
 ebay at our
 site.  If I ever go into the selling business I will probably do the same 
 thing - limit
 sales to my own products only.

 Best,

 Gary

 On 28 Dec 2006 at 9:58, Jim Strope wrote:

 Thanks Gary, I had forgotten about that.

 However, the main difference is with the other website, the link that I 
 gave
 is exclusive to my auctions.  Maybe something for you to consider as I
 really don't want to promote other people's sales.

 Jim Strope
 421 Fourth Street
 Glen Dale, WV  26038

 http://www.catchafallingstar.com


 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:50 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - FINAL Ebay sale for 2006


  The same feature is available on meteorite-dealers.com.
 
  http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/ebaysales.html
 
  Gary
 
  On 28 Dec 2006 at 8:04, Jim Strope wrote:
 
  An even better way to look at auctions is by trying out Paul and Jim's
  website recap of ebay auctions.  It puts all the auctions on one page
  with
  a preview photo even when there is NO preview photo on ebay.  Try it 
  out:
 
 
 



 

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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - FINAL Ebay sale for 2006

2006-12-28 Thread Gary K. Foote
My apologies Jim, though your original email was to the list, not private to 
me.  My 
email skills seem to have gone awry this morning.  My apologies to all listees.

Gary

On 28 Dec 2006 at 10:39, Jim Strope wrote:

 Didn't this start out as a private email?   Posting it to the list is not 
 cool.
 
 Jim Strope
 421 Fourth Street
 Glen Dale, WV  26038
 
 http://www.catchafallingstar.com
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 10:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - FINAL Ebay sale for 2006
 
 
  Hi Jim,
 
  Since I don't sell meteorites I offer live listings for all meteorites on 
  ebay at our
  site.  If I ever go into the selling business I will probably do the same 
  thing - limit
  sales to my own products only.
 
  Best,
 
  Gary
 
  On 28 Dec 2006 at 9:58, Jim Strope wrote:
 
  Thanks Gary, I had forgotten about that.
 
  However, the main difference is with the other website, the link that I 
  gave
  is exclusive to my auctions.  Maybe something for you to consider as I
  really don't want to promote other people's sales.
 
  Jim Strope
  421 Fourth Street
  Glen Dale, WV  26038
 
  http://www.catchafallingstar.com
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:50 AM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - FINAL Ebay sale for 2006
 
 
   The same feature is available on meteorite-dealers.com.
  
   http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/ebaysales.html
  
   Gary
  
   On 28 Dec 2006 at 8:04, Jim Strope wrote:
  
   An even better way to look at auctions is by trying out Paul and Jim's
   website recap of ebay auctions.  It puts all the auctions on one page
   with
   a preview photo even when there is NO preview photo on ebay.  Try it 
   out:
  
  
  
 
 
 
  
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - FINAL Ebay sale for 2006

2006-12-28 Thread Gary K. Foote
My apologies Jim, though your original email was to the list, not private to 
me.  My email
skills seem to have gone awry this morning.  My apologies to all listees.

Gary
 
 On 28 Dec 2006 at 10:39, Jim Strope wrote:
 
  Didn't this start out as a private email?   Posting it to the list is not 
  cool.
  
  Jim Strope
  421 Fourth Street
  Glen Dale, WV  26038
  
  http://www.catchafallingstar.com
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 10:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - FINAL Ebay sale for 2006
  
  
   Hi Jim,
  
   Since I don't sell meteorites I offer live listings for all meteorites on 
   ebay at our
   site.  If I ever go into the selling business I will probably do the same 
   thing - limit
   sales to my own products only.
  
   Best,
  
   Gary
  
   On 28 Dec 2006 at 9:58, Jim Strope wrote:
  
   Thanks Gary, I had forgotten about that.
  
   However, the main difference is with the other website, the link that I 
   gave
   is exclusive to my auctions.  Maybe something for you to consider as I
   really don't want to promote other people's sales.
  
   Jim Strope
   421 Fourth Street
   Glen Dale, WV  26038
  
   http://www.catchafallingstar.com
  
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:50 AM
   Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - FINAL Ebay sale for 2006
  
  
The same feature is available on meteorite-dealers.com.
   
http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/ebaysales.html
   
Gary
   
On 28 Dec 2006 at 8:04, Jim Strope wrote:
   
An even better way to look at auctions is by trying out Paul and Jim's
website recap of ebay auctions.  It puts all the auctions on one page
with
a preview photo even when there is NO preview photo on ebay.  Try it 
out:
   
   
   
  
  
  
   
  
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[meteorite-list] Apologies for Duplicate Postings

2006-12-28 Thread Gary K. Foote
Apparently my email program has been preselecting recipients and doubling my 
outgoing 
emails.  I picked up a virus, but I think I have it licked now..  It seems my 
outgoing 
email was sending to all recipients in my address book.  I have rectified that 
by 
removing all from said address book and will keep such info in a separate 
flatfile for 
reference in the future.

Again, my apologies to all listees for duplicate posts and to others who may 
have 
received my emails

Gary Foote

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[meteorite-list] Large fireball over Arizona last night!

2006-12-28 Thread Michael Farmer
Hi everyone, I was too busy loading over 150 auctions
last night to post this.

There was a large fireball over northern Arizona last
night. My sister saw it from Show Low at around ~7:15
pm I think. She said it was very large and green and
looked to be heading to the west or southwest. An hour
later Robert Ward called me excited, saying that while
driving near Kingman, he saw the same fireball light
up the sky. I just spoke to him again and he said that
in Prescott, the fireball lit up the entire sky nearly
like daylight through the clouds! 
Has anyone heard any other reports?  All of Arizona is
under a large rain/snowstorm right now, so hunting is
out of the question at the moment.
Michael Farmer
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Re: [meteorite-list] Large fireball over Arizona last night!

2006-12-28 Thread Moni Waiblinger-Seabridge
Hello list and Michael,

you better not be so lucky to have a new find just before the year ends!
Just teasing!

But could you imagine that being the case?
We all could celebrate New Year's together and having the greatest 
celebration ever finding meteorites while drinking champagne!!!

Hope to hear more about this!!  :-)

With best regards,
Moni

From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Large fireball over Arizona last night!
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 09:00:17 -0800 (PST)

Hi everyone, I was too busy loading over 150 auctions
last night to post this.

There was a large fireball over northern Arizona last
night. My sister saw it from Show Low at around ~7:15
pm I think. She said it was very large and green and
looked to be heading to the west or southwest. An hour
later Robert Ward called me excited, saying that while
driving near Kingman, he saw the same fireball light
up the sky. I just spoke to him again and he said that
in Prescott, the fireball lit up the entire sky nearly
like daylight through the clouds!
Has anyone heard any other reports?  All of Arizona is
under a large rain/snowstorm right now, so hunting is
out of the question at the moment.
Michael Farmer
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - FINAL Ebay sale for 2006

2006-12-28 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
In a message dated 12/28/2006 8:04:52 A.M.  Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Good Morning Meteorite  Lovers

I have auctions ending tonight  catchafallingstar.com.  Most started at 99  
Cents!!!:
http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=catchafallingstar
.com

An  even better way to look at auctions is by trying out Paul and Jim's 
website  recap of ebay auctions.  It puts all the auctions on one page with a 
 
preview photo even when there is NO preview photo on ebay.  Try it  out:

http://www.meteorite.com/meteorites/ebay/catch_a_falling_star_meteorites.htm
..
...

Way  to go Paul  Jim!! Great idea and the site looks fantastic as  always!!!

Thanks for sharing the link Jim!!

Sincerely,
Michael  Johnson
SPACE ROCKS, INC.
932 Hanging Rock Road
Boiling Springs, South  Carolina
29316-7401
USA
http://www.spacerocksinc.com  

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[meteorite-list] [AD] Have a fix for annoying clicking sounds on Ads

2006-12-28 Thread Paul Harris
Hello Everyone!

I was informed today that our Banner Ads and rotating Classified Ads can 
cause a clicking noise each time
they change.  I was informed of this some months back but could never 
duplicate it on the 4 computers
that I have.  I was able to duplicate it today and yes it's truly 
annoying.  The good news is I also have a
fix.

Windows has a setting under Sounds and Audio Devices that creates a 
click each time a new navigation
is sensed. Unfortunately our Banner Ads and our rotating Classified Ads 
are picked up by Windows as a
new event.  We apologize to all of you who have been having to put up 
with this annoyance. I had turned
my setting off years ago and never knew this was happening. 

There is no functional need, unless you suffer from blindness, for the 
click. The following tutorial will show
you how to set the Start Navigation setting for Windows Explorer to 
None.

http://www.meteorite-times.com/help/

Please always feel free to let me know of any issues.

Thank you!

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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - FINAL Ebay sale for 2006

2006-12-28 Thread wahlperry
Hi Paul and Jim,

Keep up the great work ! Next time I have some Stwart Valley meteorites 
for sale ,I will list them on your site.

Sonny
www.nevadameteorites.com




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - FINAL Ebay sale for 2006

In a message dated 12/28/2006 8:04:52 A.M.  Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Good Morning Meteorite  Lovers

I have auctions ending tonight  catchafallingstar.com.  Most started at 
99
Cents!!!:
http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=catchafallin
gstar
.com

An  even better way to look at auctions is by trying out Paul and Jim's
website  recap of ebay auctions.  It puts all the auctions on one page 
with a

preview photo even when there is NO preview photo on ebay.  Try it  out:

http://www.meteorite.com/meteorites/ebay/catch_a_falling_star_meteorites.
htm
.
.
...

Way  to go Paul  Jim!! Great idea and the site looks fantastic as  
always!!!

Thanks for sharing the link Jim!!

Sincerely,
Michael  Johnson
SPACE ROCKS, INC.
932 Hanging Rock Road
Boiling Springs, South  Carolina
29316-7401
USA
http://www.spacerocksinc.com

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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - FINAL Ebay sale for 2006

2006-12-28 Thread wahlperry
Hi ,

Sorry, I meant to say Stewart Valley.

Sonny

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - FINAL Ebay sale for 2006

Hi Paul and Jim,

Keep up the great work ! Next time I have some Stwart Valley meteorites
for sale ,I will list them on your site.

Sonny
www.nevadameteorites.com




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - FINAL Ebay sale for 2006

In a message dated 12/28/2006 8:04:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Good Morning Meteorite Lovers

I have auctions ending tonight catchafallingstar.com. Most started at
99
Cents!!!:
http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=catchafallin

gstar
.com

An even better way to look at auctions is by trying out Paul and Jim's
website recap of ebay auctions. It puts all the auctions on one page
with a

preview photo even when there is NO preview photo on ebay. Try it out:

http://www.meteorite.com/meteorites/ebay/catch_a_falling_star_meteorites.

htm
.

.
...

Way to go Paul  Jim!! Great idea and the site looks fantastic as
always!!!

Thanks for sharing the link Jim!!

Sincerely,
Michael Johnson
SPACE ROCKS, INC.
932 Hanging Rock Road
Boiling Springs, South Carolina
29316-7401
USA
http://www.spacerocksinc.com

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Re: [meteorite-list] [AD] Have a fix for annoying clicking sounds on Ads

2006-12-28 Thread Notkin
Paul Harris posted:

 Windows has a setting under Sounds and Audio Devices that creates a 
 click each time a new navigation is sensed. Unfortunately our Banner 
 Ads and our rotating Classified Ads are picked up by Windows as a new 
 event.

Dear Paul and List:

Another effective method of bypassing annoying Windows-related issues 
is to . . . buy a Macintosh!  : )

And speaking of cool tech things, as 2006 winds to a close I'd like to 
say cheers to Michael Johnson for another year of Rocks from Space - 
Picture of the Day. What a great project. Nice going Michael.

New Year's wishes to all.


Geoff N.
Mac loyalist since 1989

www.aerolite.org

Official supplier of Steve Arnold Brenham meteorites
http://www.aerolite.org/brenham-irons.htm

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Re: [meteorite-list] Test TEST

2006-12-28 Thread Impactika
In a message dated 12/28/2006 5:42:46 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
hmm then there is no emails on the list  ?

then tell me please exact date when start meteorite part of Tucson  fair.
Where most dealers stay ? At Suite Inn hotel ?

-[ MARCIN  CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-

Hello Marcin and members, 
 
The Tucson Show lasts 2 weeks, from January 27 to February 10. Some  dealers 
stay for the whole 2 weeks, others only 10 days or less. Most meteorite  
dealers are in the InnSuites, but not all. 
 
Unless the weather is a problem, I am planning on being in Tucson from  
January 26 to February 6. I will be in the InnSuites, room 230.  

For more details, and listings go to _www.MZexpos.com_ 
(http://www.MZexpos.com) 
I hope this helps.

Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
President,  I.M.C.A. Inc.
www.IMCA.cc
 
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[meteorite-list] AD: One cent ebay sale ending tonight

2006-12-28 Thread Michael Farmer
I have some meteorites ending tonight on ebay. 
 See all of the meteorites offered at the links below.
 
http://www.meteorite.com/meteorites/ebay/michael_farmer_meteorites.htm
 
 
http://www.meteorite.com/meteorites/ebay/michael_farmer_meteorites_2.htm


 http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmeteoritehunters
 
 http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmeteorite-hunter

 http://www.meteoritehunter.com
 
 thanks 
 Michael Farmer


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[meteorite-list] AD - Governados Valadares

2006-12-28 Thread Dave Harris


Just to say that a sample of Governados Valadares of mine finishes in 3 days
or so


http://www.specialistauctions.com/auctiondetails.php?id=260710



 
Dave
IMCA #0092
Sec.BIMS
www.bimsociety.org
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[meteorite-list] New Features at meteorite-dealers.com - input wanted

2006-12-28 Thread Gary K. Foote
I am expanding my live listings of ebay items on my site and would like to know 
who is 
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[meteorite-list] Semi-OT free astronomy Ebook

2006-12-28 Thread Darren Garrison
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[meteorite-list] NASA's vision lost on Web generation

2006-12-28 Thread Gary K. Foote
NASA's vision lost on Web generation

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/12/28/space.youth.apathy.ap/index.html

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[meteorite-list] Trade Offer- Sikhote w/ Hole

2006-12-28 Thread Bob Evans
Hello,
I have my 15.5 gram Sikhote Alin with Hole to offer for trade. I figured Id 
try trading it rather than selling it on ebay. Im mainly looking for USA 
chondrites. Preferably individuals or endcuts. I love those oriented stones 
too.
Heres a photo :
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spacerox2001/detail?.dir=/dda3re2.dnm=8bdcre2.jpg.src=ph

Please contact me off list with offers.
Thanks
Bob 

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[meteorite-list] True Fakes: Scientists Make Simulated Lunar Soil

2006-12-28 Thread Ron Baalke

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/28dec_truefake.htm

True Fakes: Scientists make simulated lunar soil
NASA Science News
December 28, 2006

Dec. 28 , 2006: Life is tough for a humble grain of dirt on the surface
of the Moon. It's peppered with cosmic rays, exposed to solar flares,
and battered by micrometeorites--shattered, vaporized and re-condensed
countless times over the billions of years. Adding insult to injury,
Earthlings want to strip it down to oxygen and other elements for in
situ resource utilization, or ISRU, the process of living off the land
when NASA returns to the Moon in the not-so-distant future.

But, as Robert Heinlein famously observed, the Moon is a harsh 
mistress. Living with moondust and striping it down may be trickier 
than anyone supposes.

To find out how tricky, researchers would like to test their ideas for
ISRU and their designs for lunar rovers on real lunar soil before
astronauts return to the Moon. But there's a problem:

We don't have enough real moondust to go around, says Larry Taylor,
director of Planetary Geosciences Institute at the University of
Tennessee in Knoxville. To run all the tests, we need to make a
well-qualified lunar simulant. And not just a few bags will do. We
need tons of it, mainly for working on technologies for diggers and
wheels and machinery on the surface, adds David S. McKay, chief
scientist for astrobiology at the Johnson Space Center (JSC).

Taylor and McKay are lead members of a small group of self-styled
lunatics whose careers have focused on lunar soil and rocks. They are
among several consultants to NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center (MSFC),
which manages the Lunar Regolith Simulant Development Program.

Carole McLemore is the program manager at Marshall. Back in the 1990s,
she explains, researchers used a lunar simulant called JSC-1 developed
at JSC. But there is no more JSC-1 available. So, to get started,
researchers at Marshall are working with the Astromaterials Research and
Exploration Science office at Johnson to create a replica of the JSC-1
simulant: JSC-1A. It comes in three types based on grain size (fine,
medium and coarse). MSFC has also begun work on more demanding simulants
representing various locations on the Moon.

Until the Apollo astronauts brought lunar soil samples to Earth during
1969-72, the belief was that the Moon's dry, airless environment left
the soil largely undisturbed. Reality is much harsher.

Micrometeorites, many smaller than a pencil point, constantly rain onto
the surface at up to 100,000 km/hr (about 62,000 mph), chipping off
materials or forming microscopic impact craters. Some melt the soil and
vaporize and re-condense as glassy coats on other specks of dust.
Impacts weld debris into agglutinates. Complicated interactions with
the solar wind convert iron in the soil into myriads of nano-phase
metallic iron grains just a few nanometers wide.

These processes form the regolith -- Greek for stone blanket (litho +
rhegos) -- covering the Moon's surface. What greets astronauts and
spaceships is a complex material comprising sharp, abrasive,
interlocking fragile glass shards and fragments, Taylor says. It grinds
machinery and seals, and damages human lungs.

Some of the stuff that got into the Apollo spacecraft was very finely
ground, McKay said. Dust was everywhere and impossible to brush off.
All the lunar astronauts had lung reactions to this dust, some more than
others, like Harrison H. (Jack) Schmitt's lunar dust hay fever.

The Apollo specimens are America's Crown Jewels and are doled out in
ultra-small samples to scientists who can demonstrate that nothing else
will do for high-value experiments. Renewed interest in lunar
exploration in the late 1980s meant that lunar simulants were needed to
test schemes for building structures on the Moon or for extracting
oxygen and other materials.

That led to JSC-1 in 1993, made of basaltic volcanic cinder cone
deposits from a quarry near Flagstaff, AZ. The 25-ton lot -- distributed
in 50-pound bags -- proved popular.

We're totally out, but that's soon to be corrected, said McKay. MSFC
has a Small Business Innovative Research (SBIR) contract with Orbitec of
Madison, WI, to manufacture about 16 metric tonnes of three types of
JSC-1A: 1 tonne of fines (delivered); 14 tonnes of moderate grains
(being delivered); and 1 tonne of coarse grains (coming soon). The U.S.
Geological Survey in Denver and the University of Colorado at Boulder --
key partners -- are checking the chemical, mineralogical, and
geotechnical properties.

MSFC is developing three new simulants.  Two will represent mare and 
polar highlands regions. A third will represent the glassy, sharp, 
jagged edges of regolith that test the best of hardware and humans. 
But matching every location on the Moon would require large numbers of 
small, unique, expensive batches.

Instead, we will develop root simulants and manufacture specific
simulants from these, but also enable investigators to 

[meteorite-list] NASA Mars Team Teaches Old Rovers New Tricks to Kick Off Year Four

2006-12-28 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2006-152

NASA Mars Team Teaches Old Rovers New Tricks to Kick Off Year Four
December 28, 2006

NASA's twin Mars rovers, nearing the third anniversary of their
landings, are getting smarter as they get older.

The unexpected longevity of Spirit and Opportunity is giving the space
agency a chance to field-test on Mars some new capabilities useful both
to these missions and future rovers. Spirit will begin its fourth year
on Mars on Jan. 3 (PST); Opportunity on Jan. 24. In addition to their
continuing scientific observations, they are now testing four new skills
included in revised flight software uploaded to their onboard computers.

One of the new capabilities enables spacecraft to examine images and
recognize certain types of features. It is based on software developed
for NASA's Space Technology 6 thinking spacecraft.

Spirit has photographed dozens of dusty whirlwinds in action, and both
rovers have photographed clouds. Until now, however, scientists on Earth
have had to sift through many transmitted images from Mars to find those
few. With the new intelligence boost, the rovers can recognize dust
devils or clouds and select only the relevant parts of those images to
send back to Earth. This increased efficiency will free up more
communication time for additional scientific investigations.

To recognize dust devils, the new software looks for changes from one
image to the next, taken a few seconds apart, of the same field of view.
To find clouds, it looks for non-uniform features in the portion of an
image it recognizes as the sky.

Another new feature, called visual target tracking, enables a rover to
keep recognizing a designated landscape feature as the rover moves.
Khaled Ali of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., flight
software team leader for Spirit and Opportunity, said, The rover keeps
updating its template of what the feature looks like. It may be a rock
that looks bigger as the rover approaches it, or maybe the shape looks
different from a different angle, but the rover still knows it's the
same rock.

Visual target tracking can be combined with a third new feature --
autonomy in calculating where it is safe to reach out with the contact
tools on the rover's robotic arm. The combination gives Spirit and
Opportunity a capability called go and touch, which is yet to be
tested on Mars. So far in the mission, whenever a rover has driven to a
new location, the crew on Earth has had to evaluate images of the new
location to decide where the rover could place its contact instruments
on a subsequent day. After the new software has been tested and
validated, the crew will have the option of letting a rover choose an
arm target for itself the same day it drives to a new location.

The new software also improves the autonomy of each rover for navigating
away from hazards by building better maps of their surroundings than
they have done previously. This new capability was developed by Carnegie
Mellon University, Pittsburgh, and JPL.

Before this, the rovers could only think one step ahead about getting
around an obstacle, said JPL's Dr. John Callas, project manager for the
Mars Exploration Rovers. If they encountered an obstacle or hazard,
they'd back off one step and try a different direction, and if that
direction didn't work they'd try another, then another. And sometimes
the rover could not find a solution. With this new capability, the rover
will be smarter about navigating in complex terrain, thinking several
steps ahead. It could back out of a dead-end cul-de-sac. It could even
find its way through a maze.

This is the most comprehensive of four revisions to the rovers' flight
software since launch. One new version was uplinked during the cruise to
Mars, and the rovers have switched to upgraded versions twice since
their January 2004 landings.

Callas said, These rovers are a great resource for testing software
that could be useful to future Mars missions without sacrificing our own
continuing mission of exploration. This new software will be a baseline
for development of flight software for Mars Science Laboratory, but it's
also helpful in operating Spirit and Opportunity. NASA's Mars Science
Laboratory is a next-generation Mars rover in development for planned
launch in 2009.

Spirit and Opportunity have worked on Mars for nearly 12 times as long
as their originally planned prime missions of 90 Martian days. Spirit
has driven about 6.9 kilometers (4.3 miles); Opportunity has driven
about 9.8 kilometers (6.1 miles). Spirit has returned more than 88,500
images, Opportunity more than 80,700. All the raw images are available
online at http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/ .

Currently, Spirit is investigating rocks and soils near a ridge where it
kept its solar panels tilted toward the sun during the Martian winter.
Opportunity is exploring Victoria Crater, where cliffs in the crater
wall expose rock layers with clues about a 

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2006-12-28 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] [AD] Have a fix for annoying clicking sounds on Ads

2006-12-28 Thread Dave Freeman mjwy

Dear Geoff;
That clicking sound is probably your Mac!
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Paul Harris posted:

 

Windows has a setting under Sounds and Audio Devices that creates a 
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New Year's wishes to all.


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[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - December 29, 2006

2006-12-28 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
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Re: [meteorite-list] Weird pic...Apollo 14

2006-12-28 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - 

When dealing with the man did not walk on the Moon
nuts
(and for these folks man did not walk on the Moon
because either
1) they did not see the reamins of another
civilization there, or
2) NASA was hiding the real astronauts, who did see
the remains, by staging fake landings

Ahem,as I was saying... When dealing with the man did
not walk on the Moon nuts, I simply tell them that
NASA lied to them about the flim used, and that it was
really recon film which was loaded in the astronauts
cameras.  

These folks usually readliy accept that NASA lied to
them, and given the premise the consequence follows:
man walked on the Moon.

If questioned, I tell them to take a roll of
kodachrome or ektachrome, put it in the referigerator,
then put it in an oven, and see how it works.  Then
imagine doing it in a vacuum.

If they're really stubborn, I ask them if they
remember Kodak running any ads claiming that now you
could buy the same film used on the Moon, like Tang. 
They don't, and end of arguement.

good hunting, 
Ed

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sterling,
Your explanation about the Apollo 14 photograph
 is correct.   During the 
 Apollo 14 mission I was the Mission Science Advisor
 for the A-14 mission in the 
 Lunar Receiving Laboratory.   I participated in the
 Apollo 14 crew 
 debriefings with Alan Sheppard, Ed Mitchell and
 Stuart Rousa along with the backup crew 
 of Gene Cernan and Joe Engle.  During the debriefs,
 all of the mission 
 photographs were examined and detailed discussions
 were held with the crew (across a 
 quarantine barrier window) regarding their surface
 activities and what was 
 displayed in the images.   We discussed the
 particular photograph of the ALSEP 
 station with the blue streak above the horizon.  
 The crew commented that it was 
 difficult to not get sun reflections in the camera. 
  In fact, there were 
 additional images from the surface photographs which
 had smaller streaks above 
 the horizon.   
  The debriefings were an amazing experience,
 expecially when Ed Mitchell 
 and Al Sheppard began pulling lunar rocks from a
 large white bag.   Lunar 
 samples 14301 thru 14321 were loosely stowed inside
 the bag.   The samples were 
 laid out on a table which had been covered with
 aluminum foil.   Sample 14321 
 was the size of a soccer ball and the largest lunar
 sample returned from the 
 mission.   It was given the name Big Bertha.
  Hope these comments help clarify the situation
 with the streaks in the 
 photograph.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Weird pic...Apollo 14

2006-12-28 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi,

Considerable information about the photographic
aspects of the Apollo missions can be found at:
http://history.nasa.gov/apollo_photo.html

The films were all supplied by Kodak on thin
substrates so that the maximum number of shots
could fit in each Hassy film magazine. The basic
handheld camera was the Hasselblad 500EL. Each 
film magazine would typically yield 160 color or 
200 BW. Kodak was asked by NASA to develop 
thin new films with special emulsions... [Some] magazines 
were loaded with 70 mm wide, perforated Kodak 
Panatomic-X fine-grained, 80 ASA, b/w film, [some] 
with Kodak Ektachrome SO-68, [some] with Kodak 
Ektachrome SO-121, and [some] with super light-
sensitive Kodak 2485, 16,000 ASA film.

Panatomic X, no longer made, was a single layer
emulsion with very fine grain, and could be developed
as a positive or negative image.  Sadly, there are no
such (single-layer) films made any more, that I know 
of. (It was my favorite.)

The cameras were extensively modified to work in
vacuum and under lunar conditions:

When film is normally wound in a camera, static 
electricity is generated on the film surface. This electricity 
is dispersed by metal rims and rollers, which guide the 
film, and by humidity in the surrounding air. In the 
lunar surface camera, however, the film was guided 
by the Reseau plate's [where the little crosshairs were 
engraved] raised edges. As glass is a poor electrical 
conductor, and with the absence of surrounding air, 
the charge built up between the glass surface and the 
film could become so great that sparks could occur 
between the plate and the film. In order to conduct 
the static electricity away and prevent sparking, the 
side of the plate facing the film was coated with a 
thin transparent conductive layer and silver deposited 
on the edges of the conductive layer. The electrical 
charge was then led to the metallic parts of the camera 
body by contact springs.

Worthy of note there is that static discharges
produce so-called film defects, but not the kind
seen in the A14 67-9384 photo.

The cameras also had lengthened and oversized 
controls so you could manipulate them wearing big
fat gloves! The EL model had an electric motor that
advanced the film and cocked the shutter automatically,
so all you had to do in your big fat gloves was set
the f-stop, set the exposure, set the focus, and press
the shutter release. That's enough to keep you busy
on the Moon.

Freezing will not harm film, as long as it is allowed
to gradually return to normal temperatures before it
is used. In fact, freezing will preserve film in perfect
condition for decades. Photographers fanatically 
devoted to Kodachrome 25 froze cases of it when 
it was discontinued and have been using it (or selling 
it) ever since. (Kodachrome 64 was too red-sensitive 
for them.)

High temperatures are deadly to film's true color 
reproduction, however, hence the reflective camera 
bodies in those Hassy 500EL's. I don't see any sign
of heat degradation in any Apollo photos, so I guess
it worked. On the other hand, locking your car on a
summer day with the black camera laying on the dash
or in direct sunshine anywhere inside the car is a sure
invitation to vacation photos with purple mountains,
purple grass, purple road signs, purple people...

The outer surface of the 500EL data camera was 
colored silver to help maintain more uniform internal 
temperatures in the violent extremes of heat and cold 
encountered on the lunar surface. Lubricants used in 
the camera mechanisms had to either be eliminated 
or replaced because conventional lubricants would 
boil off in the vacuum and potentially could condense 
on the optical surfaces of the lenses, Reseau plate, 
and film.

The mention of special lubricants brings up a
non-photographic point of some interest. A camera
is a lightweight box with two rollers in it and very
low levels of force being used. We are working
on returning to the Moon and building a base there.
Presumably, we will also do that on Mars, and later,
eventually, other places. We're not going to be able
to do very much building (or digging or mining
or much of anything) using nothing but the human
muscles of astronauts.

No, we're going to need heavy machinery and lots
of it. A survivable lunar base will need to be buried in the
lunar surface or covered with feet of lunar soil or both.
What sort of lubricants will be needed for a lunar
bulldozer? Or a Martain back-hoe? What will protect
axles, gears, drives, etc., under loads of tons of force
and yet work at minus 250 F? What seal materials
will function reliably for months or years on an exposed
outer airlock door that goes from minus 250 F. to 
plus 250 F. every two weeks? Or even on a wheel
bearing?

The sad truth is that nobody knows. We can't even 
get heavy machinery to work reliably in the puny Antarctic
winter where it hardly ever dips below minus 100 F and
is never in a vacuum.