[meteorite-list] Mark Twain, a Eurochallenger, and Perihelia
Martin teased the R.O.W. about some obscure Jünger fellow and hove out a who said (with clairvoyance) to cater to a more American style of literature: ...came in with Halley's comet (1835) go out with it (1910) ... Jerry quipped: Mark Twain! As my Favorite Martin wonders how Mark Twain (Was he from Florida or Cairo?) honed his halleycious hillbilly humor...here's a quote from that lovable Clemens' creation Huck: (From The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn: Huck relates his musings at night with Jim, an, an escaped slave in the antebellum U.S. South, while they lay on their backs pondering the origin of the myrid of stars visible (ROFL) from their raft floating down the Mississippi): Jim said the moon could'a laid them, well, that looked kind of reasonable, so I didn't say nothing against it, because I've seen a frog lay most as many, so of course, it could be done. We used to watch the stars that fell, too, and see them streak down. Jim allowed they'd got spoiled and was hove out of the nest. OK, enough on Mark Twain, Here's an encore Who Said? for the European contingent, as we comfortably sit back and watch the SOHO and STEREO images rolling in for Comet McNaught, after we've suffered meeting the precision timing viewing requirements in the northern hemisphere over recent days: I will have two minutes on four different orbits to photograph Halley's comet in both the visible and UV spectrum. The objective is get this data as the comet approaches perihelion, which is just as it goes around behind the sun and starts to head back out. It's a regime where we do not have any data at the present time so I've also been told we will probably be the only human beings to see it at that time. Note: Halley's Comet last was at perihelion on February 9, 1986. Pioneer 12, orbiting Venus at the time on the opposite side of the Sun, made some of the UV observations which were interpreted to mean that the rate of water loss of the 6-km diameter comet ramped up from about 10 tons to 40 tons per second at perihelion and shortly thereafter as it was primed, reached as high as 70 tons loss per second. At that rate, Halley's comet will be around for up to 50,000 years before it vanishes (hypothetically, of course assuming a bit too much for comfort regarding composition and evaporation), assuming no unforeseen changes in orbit. This would mean an average at each pass of 8 meters in diameter was hove out ... Pioneer 12 ended its mission 6 1/2 years later in 1992 as a fireball perhaps dropping Earth meteorites on Venus' surface - where meteorites don't last very long at all:-( And just a few hours later, the Peekskill meteorite from the asteroid belt was hove into the trunk of a red 1980 Chevy Malibu belonging to a pretty 17 year old girl named Michelle. Comet McNaught reaches perihelion ... later today, January 12. Let the show begin! (I believe we will all get another chace to view the comet during daylight, though it practically out of sight for everyone now... Best wishes, Good health, Doug __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Re-2: January Comet?
Ah, Martin, this was our American friends' chance while I was sleeping - and you, by the way, seem to be the only European awake at MEZ as well as American Standard Time ... Well, the quiz to be continuated: which great French writer came in and went out with Halley? Bonne chance ... - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Matthias Bärmann' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 11:40 PM Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] Fw: Re-2: January Comet? Yah Matthias, that was to difficult for other countries. Let's make it easiest, who is often quoted with: I came in with Halley's comet in 1835. It's coming again next year, and I expect to go out with it. The Almighty has said no doubt, 'Now here are these two unaccountable freaks; they came in together, they must go out together.' Buckleboo! Martin - Original Message - From: Matthias Bärmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re-2: January Comet? Wow, Martin, meteoritefast! (And with out of contest I meant of course Svend B u h l , author of an extensive brillant study dedicated to Ernst Jünger - sorry, Svend, somehow irritated by all the Buggleboos ... ;-) - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Matthias Bärmann' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 11:09 PM Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] Re-2: January Comet? Zwei Mal Halley, Jünger, Ernschtl -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Matthias Bärmann Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 22:51 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Re-2: January Comet? Quiz (Svend Bugl out of contest): A famous German author of 20th century was so lucky to see Halley twice, in full consciousness, and wrote a book about this experience. Who was it (don't google, have a look around in your private libraries :-) Matthias Baermann - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 10:31 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re-2: January Comet? Gary disappointedly comments: Clouds to the west the last two nights. I got some good sunset pics, but no comet :( Gary Now, drum roll, ... my comment: Clouds here to the west, east, north and south the last two nights :-( Thomas Tuchan must have been extremely lucky ... his home town Ulm is only about 200 km from where I live. Sincere congrats, Thomas! Well, you can't have it all - I saw Halley, I saw Hale-Bopp, I saw Hyakutake, ... plus some telescopic comets, so I shouldn't complain! Cometary Cheers, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re-2: January Comet?
Here I've got something which could be a good mantra for all of us who will be lucky enough to see our January comet this evening. Friedrich Hölderlin (1770-1843), a more than legitimate resident of Parnassus, wrote - as I don't have an official English translation here, please excuse my private try - the original is much better. Möcht' ich ein Komet seyn? Ich glaube. Denn sie haben die Schnelligkeit der Vögel; sie blühen an Feuer, und sind wie Kinder an Reinheit. Do I want to be a comet? I believe so. Because they own the velocity of birds; they're blossoming with fire and are like children in innocence. (quoted from the poem 'In lieblicher Bläue'/'In lovely blueness'; by the way: great American painter Sam Francis once dedicated a real masterwork to this poem - a good example for the r e a l globalization ...) Matthias Baermann - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Matthias Bärmann' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 11:15 PM Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] Re-2: January Comet? wohl aber merkte ich, daß die Leute verändert waren, zu flüstern begannen, wenn ich in die Nähe kam und mich mitleidig ansahen. Die bulgarischen Mädchen flüsterten nicht, sie sagten es alles heraus und von ihnen erfuhr ich, auf ihre derbe Art, daß das Ende der Welt gekommen sei. Es war der allgemeine Glaube in der Stadt und er muß eine Weile vorgeherrscht haben, da es sich mir, ohne daß ich mich selbst vor etwas Bestimmten fürchtete, so tief einprägte. ...Eines Nachts hieß es, jetzt sei der Komet da und jetzt werde er auf die Erde fallen. Ich wurde nicht schlafen geschickt, ich hörte jemand sagen, das hätte jetzt keinen Sinn, die Kinder sollten auch in den Garten kommen. Wer? -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Matthias Bärmann Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 22:51 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Re-2: January Comet? Quiz (Svend Bugl out of contest): A famous German author of 20th century was so lucky to see Halley twice, in full consciousness, and wrote a book about this experience. Who was it (don't google, have a look around in your private libraries :-) Matthias Baermann - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 10:31 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re-2: January Comet? Gary disappointedly comments: Clouds to the west the last two nights. I got some good sunset pics, but no comet :( Gary Now, drum roll, ... my comment: Clouds here to the west, east, north and south the last two nights :-( Thomas Tuchan must have been extremely lucky ... his home town Ulm is only about 200 km from where I live. Sincere congrats, Thomas! Well, you can't have it all - I saw Halley, I saw Hale-Bopp, I saw Hyakutake, ... plus some telescopic comets, so I shouldn't complain! Cometary Cheers, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lightning Balls Created In The Lab
Easy! Don't try this at home! Get a charged car battery and some 'wire wool', spray the wire wool with a small amount if silicone oil. drop some of the wool on the battery terminals, voila ball lightning, lasts for a second or so. You need to experiment on the amounts of wool to use. As I said though don't try this it's dangerous, I know I did it when I was a kid!!! Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob McCafferty Sent: 12 January 2007 02:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lightning Balls Created In The Lab Is this really new stuff? I watched Bolas Luminosas and they looked almost identical to something I saw years ago on some BBC documentary about lightning. Some Scientist used a couple of hundred Decomissioned submarine batteries to generate sparks and got the same effect. I remember showing the video to kids I taught 7-8 years ago. Rob McC --- Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They look like the ideal pets for Dave Harris in the video -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Ron Baalke Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 18:50 An: Meteorite Mailing List Betreff: [meteorite-list] Lightning Balls Created In The Lab http://www.newscientist.com/channel/fundamentals/mg19325863.500 Lightning balls created in the lab Hazel Muir New Scientist 10 January 2007 Ball lightning could soon lose its status as a mystery, now that a team in Brazil has cooked up a simple recipe for making similar eerie orbs of light in the lab, even getting them to bounce around for several seconds. Watch a movie of the boucing balls here. http://www.espacociencia.pe.gov.br/multimidia.php Thousands of people have reported seeing ball lightning, a luminous sphere that sometimes appears during thunderstorms. It is typically the size of a grapefruit and lasts for a few seconds or minutes, sometimes hovering, even bouncing along the ground. One eyewitness saw a glowing ball burn through the screen door of a house in Oregon, navigate down to the basement and wreck an old mangle, while in another report, a similar orb bounced on a Russian teacher's head more than 20 times before vanishing. One theory suggests that ball lightning is a highly ionised blob of plasma held together by its own magnetic fields, while an exotic explanation claims the cause is mini black holes created in the big bang. A more down-to-earth theory, proposed by John Abrahamson and James Dinniss at the University of Canterbury in Christchurch, New Zealand, is that ball lightning forms when lightning strikes soil, turning any silica in the soil into pure silicon vapour. As the vapour cools, the silicon condenses into a floating aerosol bound into a ball by charges that gather on its surface, and it glows with the heat of silicon recombining with oxygen. To test this idea, a team led by Antonio Pavao and Gerson Paiva from the Federal University of Pernambuco in Brazil took wafers of silicon just 350 micrometres thick, placed them between two electrodes and zapped them with currents of up to 140 amps. Then over a couple of seconds, they moved the electrodes slightly apart, creating an electrical arc that vaporised the silicon. The arc spat out glowing fragments of silicon but also, sometimes, luminous orbs the size of ping-pong balls that persisted for up to 8 seconds. The luminous balls seem to be alive, says Pavao. He says their fuzzy surfaces emitted little jets that seemed to jerk them forward or sideways, as well as smoke trails that formed spiral shapes, suggesting the balls were spinning. From their blue-white or orange-white colour, Pavao's team estimates that they have a temperature of roughly 2000 kelvin. The balls were able to melt plastic, and one even burned a hole in Paiva's jeans. These are by far the longest-lived glowing balls ever made in the lab. Earlier experiments using microwaves created luminous balls but they disappeared milliseconds after the microwaves were switched off. The lifetimes of our fireballs are about a hundred or more times higher than that obtained by microwaves, says Pavao, whose findings will appear in Physical Review Letters. Abrahamson is thrilled. It made my year when I heard about it, he says. The balls, although still small, lasted long enough to come into the mainstream of observed natural ball lightning. Pavao's team is currently working out the chemical reactions involved in the balls' formation, and experimenting with other materials that might work too, including pure metals, alloys and sulphur compounds. From issue 2586 of New Scientist magazine, 10 January 2007, page 12 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Lightning Balls Created In The Lab
Hi List! I remember that you can have a lot of fun with wire wool and a microwave oven. Also a nice lightning ball! But don't forget to throw the microwave away later; it won't be useful any more after that treatment. ;) Ingo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von mark ford Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Januar 2007 12:47 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Lightning Balls Created In The Lab Easy! Don't try this at home! Get a charged car battery and some 'wire wool', spray the wire wool with a small amount if silicone oil. drop some of the wool on the battery terminals, voila ball lightning, lasts for a second or so. You need to experiment on the amounts of wool to use. As I said though don't try this it's dangerous, I know I did it when I was a kid!!! Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob McCafferty Sent: 12 January 2007 02:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lightning Balls Created In The Lab Is this really new stuff? I watched Bolas Luminosas and they looked almost identical to something I saw years ago on some BBC documentary about lightning. Some Scientist used a couple of hundred Decomissioned submarine batteries to generate sparks and got the same effect. I remember showing the video to kids I taught 7-8 years ago. Rob McC --- Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They look like the ideal pets for Dave Harris in the video -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Ron Baalke Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 18:50 An: Meteorite Mailing List Betreff: [meteorite-list] Lightning Balls Created In The Lab http://www.newscientist.com/channel/fundamentals/mg19325863.500 Lightning balls created in the lab Hazel Muir New Scientist 10 January 2007 Ball lightning could soon lose its status as a mystery, now that a team in Brazil has cooked up a simple recipe for making similar eerie orbs of light in the lab, even getting them to bounce around for several seconds. Watch a movie of the boucing balls here. http://www.espacociencia.pe.gov.br/multimidia.php Thousands of people have reported seeing ball lightning, a luminous sphere that sometimes appears during thunderstorms. It is typically the size of a grapefruit and lasts for a few seconds or minutes, sometimes hovering, even bouncing along the ground. One eyewitness saw a glowing ball burn through the screen door of a house in Oregon, navigate down to the basement and wreck an old mangle, while in another report, a similar orb bounced on a Russian teacher's head more than 20 times before vanishing. One theory suggests that ball lightning is a highly ionised blob of plasma held together by its own magnetic fields, while an exotic explanation claims the cause is mini black holes created in the big bang. A more down-to-earth theory, proposed by John Abrahamson and James Dinniss at the University of Canterbury in Christchurch, New Zealand, is that ball lightning forms when lightning strikes soil, turning any silica in the soil into pure silicon vapour. As the vapour cools, the silicon condenses into a floating aerosol bound into a ball by charges that gather on its surface, and it glows with the heat of silicon recombining with oxygen. To test this idea, a team led by Antonio Pavao and Gerson Paiva from the Federal University of Pernambuco in Brazil took wafers of silicon just 350 micrometres thick, placed them between two electrodes and zapped them with currents of up to 140 amps. Then over a couple of seconds, they moved the electrodes slightly apart, creating an electrical arc that vaporised the silicon. The arc spat out glowing fragments of silicon but also, sometimes, luminous orbs the size of ping-pong balls that persisted for up to 8 seconds. The luminous balls seem to be alive, says Pavao. He says their fuzzy surfaces emitted little jets that seemed to jerk them forward or sideways, as well as smoke trails that formed spiral shapes, suggesting the balls were spinning. From their blue-white or orange-white colour, Pavao's team estimates that they have a temperature of roughly 2000 kelvin. The balls were able to melt plastic, and one even burned a hole in Paiva's jeans. These are by far the longest-lived glowing balls ever made in the lab. Earlier experiments using microwaves created luminous balls but they disappeared milliseconds after the microwaves were switched off. The lifetimes of our fireballs are about a hundred or more times higher than that obtained by microwaves, says Pavao, whose findings will appear in Physical Review Letters. Abrahamson is thrilled. It made my year when I heard about it, he says. The balls, although still small,
Re: [meteorite-list] January Comet?
I have hopes for tonight - my last chance I believe. Gary On 11 Jan 2007 at 21:32, Gerald Flaherty wrote: Sorry for you Gary. I got a look at it last nite. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] January Comet? Clouds to the west the last two nights. I got some good sunset pics, but no comet :( Gary On 11 Jan 2007 at 15:13, MexicoDoug wrote: Doug or anyone currently on line with position of the recent Comet, I'd appreciate a head's up to locate it OR is it that conspicuous in the SW twilight??? For you Yanks near Plymouth and Boston, you can see it weather/pollution permitting from 16:50 until it sets at 17:22. Use the Sunset as a reference. That's today EST Jan 11. At Your area: 16:36 the Sun sets at a 241 degree bearing (azimuth) clockwise from North (270 is due west, so it is SW like you said). Good luck you have just a few minutes to get out and bag it. The rest of the USA will have similar positions relative to the point and timing of Sunset, though the further deep down in Dixie you go the harder and harder and more compressed the timing is... Comet (Turn Right at Sunset): 244.5 degrees at Sunset (just 3.5 degrees to the right of Sunset point - a half 10x50 binocular field away). 247 degrees at 15 minutes after Sunset (6 degrees right of Sunset point). 249 degrees at 30 minutes after Sunset (8 degrees right of Sunset point). For Jerry comet altitude will be: After Sunset 30 minutes: 2 degrees 15 Min: 4.5 degrees 0 min: 7 degrees Good Luck, go for it, I might let you know how it went for me later, but have had some sad heath issues lately to deal with (not my own). The summary for my observing is Changes in Attitudes, Changes in Latitudes like the Jimmy Buffett song says. Best wishes for the Comet, Doug __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lightning Balls Created In The Lab
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:28:53 +0100, you wrote: Hi List! I remember that you can have a lot of fun with wire wool and a microwave oven. Also a nice lightning ball! But don't forget to throw the microwave away later; it won't be useful any more after that treatment. ;) I posted these links to the list, but they seemed to have never made it: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/cwillis/microwave.html http://www-personal.umich.edu/~reginald/ball_l.html http://apache.airnet.com.au/~fastinfo/microwave/ball.html http://amasci.com/weird/microwave/voltage2.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Now Accepting Article Submissions
Hi List, In our effort to make educational articles on meteorics available to the public we are now accepting articles for publication on our website. If you have written, or would like to write an article for publication just go to our website and click on the Submit a Meteorite Related Article link at the top of the page. Fill in the form, paste in your article, plas a short bio about yourself and hit the Submit button. Simple, eh? http://www.meteorite-dealers.com Gary Foote __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re-2: January Comet?
- Original Message - From: Matthias Bärmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 4:55 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re-2: January Comet? Here I've got something which could be a good mantra for all of us who will be lucky enough to see our January comet this evening. Friedrich Hölderlin (1770-1843), a more than legitimate resident of Parnassus, wrote - as I don't have an official English translation here, please excuse my private try - the original is much better. Möcht' ich ein Komet seyn? Ich glaube. Denn sie haben die Schnelligkeit der Vögel; sie blühen an Feuer, und sind wie Kinder an Reinheit. Do I want to be a comet? I believe so. Because they own the velocity of birds; they're blossoming with fire and are like children in innocence. (quoted from the poem 'In lieblicher Bläue'/'In lovely blueness'; by the way: great American painter Sam Francis once dedicated a real masterwork to this poem - a good example for the r e a l globalization ...) Matthias Baermann I unequivocally concur and relish the long solitude of aphelion for the brief vulnerability of fame at perihelion. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The Great Comet of 2007: Watch it on the Web
http://space.com/spacewatch/070112_ns_comet_mcnaught.html The Great Comet of 2007: Watch it on the Web By Joe Rao space.com 12 January 2007 Comet McNaught, the brightest comet to appear in our skies in more than 30 years, has been putting on a spectacular show in the eastern sky at dawn and the western sky at dusk this week. And this weekend it might become even more brilliant. Ironically, the comet has also been a source of frustration for many skywatchers, because of its very low altitude. More often than not, the comet has been hidden either by clouds near the horizon, or nearby trees or buildings. For this reason, even some veteran observers have been stymied in their efforts to catch a glimpse of it [images http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagegallery/igviewer.php?imgid=4539gid=325index=0]. But Comet McNaught is now also visible to armchair astronomers via images posted to the Internet http://www.space.com/spacewatch/soho_lasco_c3_live.html from the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) spacecraft. And beginning next week, it will head rapidly south and likely become a spectacle for skywatchers in the Southern Hemisphere. Summer find The comet was discovered by astronomer Robert H. McNaught Aug. 7 at Siding Spring Observatory, near Coonabarabran, New South Wales, Australia. McNaught discovered this comet when it was a few degrees east of the head of Scorpius, on CCD images obtained with the observatory's Uppsala Schmidt telescope. The images had been obtained as part of the Siding Spring Survey, whose mission is to contribute to the inventory of potentially hazardous asteroids (PHAs) and comets (PHOs) that may pose a threat of impact and thus harm to civilization. McNaught described the comet - the 31st to bear his name - as magnitude 17.3 - or about 25,000 times dimmer than the faintest object that human eyes can perceive without any optical aid. When Brian Marsden at the Smithsonian Observatory in Cambridge, Massachusetts first calculated the orbit of Comet McNaught (now catalogued as C/2006 P1) on Aug. 8, it was based on only a handful of observations. As a result, this first computation suggested that the comet would come closest to the Sun (called perihelion) in June 2007, and then not get much closer than about 145 million miles (233 million kilometers), or about the distance of the planet Mars. As more observations of the comet arrived, however, Marsden refined its orbit, and on Aug. 11, he announced that it was likely to pass well within the Earth's orbit - a distance of just 15.9 million miles (25.6 million kilometers) - today. That's well within the orbit of Mercury. This would make the comet much brighter than most, but as a caveat, also potentially hide it in the Sun's glare. Mcnaught blossoms From August into early November the comet steadily increased in brightness, but not enough to prevent it becoming lost in the evening twilight by mid-November. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: January 8-12, 2007
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES January 8-12, 2007 o Acheron Fossae (Released 08 January 2007) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20070108a o Auqakuh Vallis (Released 09 January 2007) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20070109a o Landslides (Released 10 January 2007) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20070110a o Slope Streaks (Released 11 January 2007) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20070111a o Landslide (Released 12 January 2007) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20070112a All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Moon Has Iron Core, Lunar-Rock Study Says
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/01/070111-moon-core.html Moon Has Iron Core, Lunar-Rock Study Says Brian Handwerk National Geographic News January 11, 2007 Deep down, the moon may be more like Earth than scientists ever thought. A new moon-rock study suggests the satellite has an iron core. The findings add weight to the theory that the moon formed from debris thrown off when a Mars-size object collided with a young Earth (related: Moon Derives From Earth, Space Object, Study Says http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/08/0811_030811_earthmoon.html [August 8, 2003]). This is the most positive evidence so far that the moon contains a core, said Larry Taylor, director of the Planetary Geosciences Institute at the University of Tennessee in Knoxville. It's looking more like a planet every day. The moon's core could be a clue to its ancient origins, which have long puzzled astronomers. Our moon is too big to be a moon, Taylor said. It's huge compared to the moons we see around other planets, so it has always been suspected that there was something strange in its origin. The Big Whack The leading moon-creation theory among astronomers is known as the giant impact or big whack theory. An object about the size of Mars?half the size of Earth?slammed into our planet very early in its formation, the theory says. This impactor hit, and everything was thrown every which way, Taylor said. Material was shattered, melted, vaporized, and thrown out into orbit. Some of that material condensed and aggregated into the moon. It's believed that some of the impactor's remains became part of the moon, as did large parts of early Earth's mantle (the layer between core and crust), which were hurled spaceward. Rock samples from NASA's Apollo 15 and Apollo 17 moon missions of the early 1970s have now shed more light on the moon's origins, according to Taylor and colleagues' study, to be published in the tomorrow's issue of the journal Science. The group studied a type of lunar rock called mare basalt, which is believed to have been created deep in the moon's mantle and have retained signatures of that region. Mare basalt hails from vast, dark, flat areas of the moon's surface called mares. It is dense, dark gray, and likely formed from cooled magma. Sinking Feeling The moon rocks suggest that the lunar mantle is very low in elements that bond easily with iron, such as gold and platinum - like Earth's mantle, but with even lower levels of those elements. What happens during the formation of any terrestrial planet is that it undergoes a melting state early in its formation, Taylor said. In that state you get the separation of metallic iron into a core. When cores formed on Earth and other terrestrial planets these iron-loving elements were largely scavenged from the silicate mantle and transferred down into the metallic core, which would explain the relative lack of these elements in both Earth's mantle and the moon's. We must have had a core form [in the moon] to have [iron bonding] elements at the [low] levels we see now, Taylor said. That's the same thing that happened on Earth, Mars, Venus, and Mercury - the terrestrial planets. Though he doesn't discount this idea, Richard Walker, a geologist at the University of Maryland in College Park, sees a second option. It could be that the [amount] of these elements in the silicate portion of the impactor and the proto-Earth were quite low at the time of impact, so that when the moon formed, it simply did not contain a high abundance of the elements in question, said Walker, who was not involved in the study. Earth's iron core can be identified through the measurements of sensitive seismographs scattered all over the planet. During earthquakes these vibration monitors can help determine the content of the Earth's layers, based on how the movement of those layers effects waves passing through the planet. Seismic equipment on the moon is not sufficient to recover such information, though moonquakes commonly occur. In the case of the moon, we've never been able to find distinct evidence for [a core], Taylor said, although we've always had our suspicions. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Riker Boxes
A friend asked me for advise on where to get riker boxes. Someone on the list advised: http://www.kingsleynorth.com/skshop/search_results2.php?catID=203 But I am pretty sure someone else had a source that was considerably cheaper. Anyone know? RSVP Thanks, Michael -- It is difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends on him not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair -- What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It is what we know for sure that just ain't so. - Josh Billings (but oft credited to Mark Twain) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Riker Boxes
Michael asked A friend asked me for advise on where to get riker boxes. You might try the Jensen's.http://jensenmeteorites.com/ They sell Riker-like cases and not the namebrand I think. Mark -- It is difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends on him not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair -- What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It is what we know for sure that just ain't so. - Josh Billings (but oft credited to Mark Twain) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Riker Boxes
I did not compare prices with your link, but they are for sale here also; http://www.naturepreserved.com/riker.htm Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com On 12 Jan 2007 at 10:04, Michael L Blood wrote: A friend asked me for advise on where to get riker boxes. Someone on the list advised: http://www.kingsleynorth.com/skshop/search_results2.php?catID=203 But I am pretty sure someone else had a source that was considerably cheaper. Anyone know? RSVP Thanks, Michael -- It is difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends on him not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair -- What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It is what we know for sure that just ain't so. - Josh Billings (but oft credited to Mark Twain) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] inclusions, brecciations, lithologies
Hello Members of the list As I didn't want to build up a webside, so three days ago I decided to open up a photoalbum for meteorites. The intention was actually to show some inclusions, lithologies, brecciations , I think you might not have seen before. Thats the beginning: for ex. the ALSP1 Allende , a single translucent red relict chromium-spinel crystal, the biggest ever found in a meteorite; a 8 mm sized chondrule in a CR2, - a giant chondrule in a full slice of Maralinga.- it's bigger as the literature describe; three lithologies in one slice of a lunaite, a main mass of a diogenite (Dho 778) with a fantastic brecciation; a bundle of aquamarine-blue hibonites in NWA 1465 and in the same a dark inclusion with an total other O-Isotopie as the host; a huge troilite in Ensisheim. There is a small description to the albums, because of less space due the provider. I added also further exemplares of my collection, but still yet not much described. It could be possible that you can not see the small picture from where you can click/open up to the size of 20x30 and also further more to a orginal size, because of a firewall that blocking popups or banners. Securtiy perhaps have to be reduced temporary. Hope you like it, regards from Germany, Stephan Kambach the link: http://freenetfoto.de/album/stephan.kambach/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A new french meteorite discovered !
Congrats men. A good start for the new year! Best Michel FRANCO -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Pelé Pierre-Marie Envoyé : mercredi 10 janvier 2007 18:17 À : MeteoriteList Objet : [meteorite-list] A new french meteorite discovered ! Me and Alain Carion are proud to announce the existence of a new french meteorite. The meteorite of Saint-Ouen-en-Champagne fell September 29, 1799 near Le Mans (west of France). A farmer saw a stone falling in front of him while he was collecting grain. The stone was certainly broken apart. It weighed about 4.6 kilograms but most of it was forever lost. Alain Carion found a 12 grams fragment in the J. Chadel collection he bought in november 2006 and another piece of 40 grams was kept in the Musee Vert of Le Mans where we met the curator last week. Only two rare articles spoke of this fall (in 1841 and 1881) ; that's the reason why its existence was confidential. It's an ordinary chondrite and it's still under classification at the MNHN, Paris. Alain Carion will show you its 12 grams fragment of the Saint-Ouen-en-Champagne meteorite in Tucson (Inn Suite, room 123) during the Show. Pierre-Marie PELE www.meteor-center.com ___ Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses http://fr.answers.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Astronomy Podcasts
Hi, all, There are some interesting astronomy podcasts here at Universe Today: http://feeds.feedburner.com/universetoday/podcast There is one about meteor showers here: http://www.universetoday.com/category/podcasts/page/2/ If you have an MP3 player to load them in to for later listening, right click and save target as into your computer files. It isn't a bad site to sign up for astronomy news, too. http://www.universetoday.com/ Cheers, Pete _ Your opinion matters. Please tell us what you think and be entered into a draw for a grand prize of $500 or one of 20 $50 cash prizes. http://www.youthographyinsiders.com/R.aspx?a=116 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomy Podcasts
Excellent links Pete. I use Universetoday.com all the time. Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com On 12 Jan 2007 at 15:41, Pete Pete wrote: Hi, all, There are some interesting astronomy podcasts here at Universe Today: http://feeds.feedburner.com/universetoday/podcast There is one about meteor showers here: http://www.universetoday.com/category/podcasts/page/2/ If you have an MP3 player to load them in to for later listening, right click and save target as into your computer files. It isn't a bad site to sign up for astronomy news, too. http://www.universetoday.com/ Cheers, Pete _ Your opinion matters. Please tell us what you think and be entered into a draw for a grand prize of $500 or one of 20 $50 cash prizes. http://www.youthographyinsiders.com/R.aspx?a=116 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] More on Riker Boxes
Thanks to Gary and the several others that provided links for web sites that sell rikers. does anyone know where the best dealer is in the Tucson Show for rikers? I know prices vary a good deal. Thanks, Michael on 1/12/07 10:59 AM, Gary K. Foote at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did not compare prices with your link, but they are for sale here also; http://www.naturepreserved.com/riker.htm Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com On 12 Jan 2007 at 10:04, Michael L Blood wrote: A friend asked me for advise on where to get riker boxes. Someone on the list advised: http://www.kingsleynorth.com/skshop/search_results2.php?catID=203 But I am pretty sure someone else had a source that was considerably cheaper. Anyone know? RSVP Thanks, Michael -- It is difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends on him not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair -- What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It is what we know for sure that just ain't so. - Josh Billings (but oft credited to Mark Twain) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- It is difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends on him not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair -- What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It is what we know for sure that just ain't so. - Josh Billings (but oft credited to Mark Twain) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] More on Riker Boxes
Does anyone know where the best dealer is in the Tucson Show for rikers? I know prices vary a good deal. Thanks, Michael Hello again Michael and list, There is a large supplier that always sets up at the Riverpark Inn (formerly Pueblo Inn). They sell Riker-like cases, gem cases, plastic stands and the like. There is a pool side photograph here that shows the lounge and the like the in background. The supplier sets up under the green topped section of the building, which is somewhat a corner of the pool area, which is full of food vendors during the show time. They have been there the last few years and usually cheaper then wholesale prices on the 'net, and without shipping. http://www.theriverparkinn.com/index.asp I see on the Meteorite Exchange Tucson page that Erich should be there, he always is. Also the Saharan Overlords and Paul Liu are usually at this location. Clear Skies, Mark __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] More on Riker Boxes
RE: pool photograph I wrote, The supplier sets up under the green topped section of the building, which is somewhat a corner of the pool area.. http://www.theriverparkinn.com/index.asp Looking again I think that the photograph might be taken from the north west corner of the pool, rather the south west, as I first thought. The supplier would then be further down to the right in the photograph. They are in the north east corner of the pool area. Mark __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - ebay auctions ending in one day
Hello! Well, once again our selection of meteorites offered on ebay will start ending in about 24 hours. A 368g OC still at less than $10, some beautiful other OCs at low prices, nice slices of various classified meteorites from the Sahara including a great IMB (El Arouss), a fresh H4 (Sahara 03501), some partslices of a beautiful CV3 (Sahara 02503) and more! Do not hesitate, good deals can be made at http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ50QQsassZkayunwar. Best wishes to All, Frederic Kayunwar (Michel Franco is IMCA member #3869 and Frederic Beroud is IMCA member #2491) http://www.caillou-noir.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] inclusions, brecciations, lithologies
These are brilliant photographies, among the best macros I have seen. Excellent work Stefan! I may recommend to include a scale and to give the weight of the specimens pictured. Would love to see more. Best regards Svend www.niger-meteorite-recon.de - Original Message - From: Stephan Kambach [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteoritenliste meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 9:00 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] inclusions, brecciations, lithologies Hello Members of the list As I didn't want to build up a webside, so three days ago I decided to open up a photoalbum for meteorites. The intention was actually to show some inclusions, lithologies, brecciations , I think you might not have seen before. Thats the beginning: for ex. the ALSP1 Allende , a single translucent red relict chromium-spinel crystal, the biggest ever found in a meteorite; a 8 mm sized chondrule in a CR2, - a giant chondrule in a full slice of Maralinga.- it's bigger as the literature describe; three lithologies in one slice of a lunaite, a main mass of a diogenite (Dho 778) with a fantastic brecciation; a bundle of aquamarine-blue hibonites in NWA 1465 and in the same a dark inclusion with an total other O-Isotopie as the host; a huge troilite in Ensisheim. There is a small description to the albums, because of less space due the provider. I added also further exemplares of my collection, but still yet not much described. It could be possible that you can not see the small picture from where you can click/open up to the size of 20x30 and also further more to a orginal size, because of a firewall that blocking popups or banners. Securtiy perhaps have to be reduced temporary. Hope you like it, regards from Germany, Stephan Kambach the link: http://freenetfoto.de/album/stephan.kambach/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] to Dr. Svend Buhl / inclusions, brecciations, lithologies
Dear Svend It's true, using a scale would give a better understanding for an object if somone see it first time only by a picture. Of course I did see my meteorites in reality and so my brain have the possibility to compare. If there are chondrules you might have a rough idea about the complete size of a slice. The weights for all my meteorites you can see below the page where you enter in with the small pictures. Hope it helps. Next time, then, if the pictures wouldn't be made only for my private use I will over a scale. Thanks for you compliment, by time there will follow more photographs, regards Stephan p.s. there is a pdf existing for the NWA 1465; you will find a scale for the dark inclusion www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2003/pdf/1560.pdf on David Weir side you will find a picture from my Gujba with a scale; picture was made by Eric Twelker Am 12 Jan 2007 um 22:56 hat Dr. Svend Buhl geschrieben: These are brilliant photographies, among the best macros I have seen. Excellent work Stefan! I may recommend to include a scale and to give the weight of the specimens pictured. Would love to see more. Best regards Svend www.niger-meteorite-recon.de - Original Message - From: Stephan Kambach [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteoritenliste meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 9:00 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] inclusions, brecciations, lithologies Hello Members of the list As I didn't want to build up a webside, so three days ago I decided to open up a photoalbum for meteorites. The intention was actually to show some inclusions, lithologies, brecciations , I think you might not have seen before. Thats the beginning: for ex. the ALSP1 Allende , a single translucent red relict chromium-spinel crystal, the biggest ever found in a meteorite; a 8 mm sized chondrule in a CR2, - a giant chondrule in a full slice of Maralinga.- it's bigger as the literature describe; three lithologies in one slice of a lunaite, a main mass of a diogenite (Dho 778) with a fantastic brecciation; a bundle of aquamarine-blue hibonites in NWA 1465 and in the same a dark inclusion with an total other O-Isotopie as the host; a huge troilite in Ensisheim. There is a small description to the albums, because of less space due the provider. I added also further exemplares of my collection, but still yet not much described. It could be possible that you can not see the small picture from where you can click/open up to the size of 20x30 and also further more to a orginal size, because of a firewall that blocking popups or banners. Securtiy perhaps have to be reduced temporary. Hope you like it, regards from Germany, Stephan Kambach the link: http://freenetfoto.de/album/stephan.kambach/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mark Twain, a Eurochallenger, and Perihelia
No idea, I've never read BrinBenford. Huh! My Doug, listen! She that would gain a faithful lover Must at a distance keep the slave; Not by a look her heart discover, Men should but guess the thoughts we have. Whilst they're in doubt their flame increases, And all attendance they will pay; When once confess'd their ardour ceases, And vows like smoke soon fly away. Then, fond Aurelia, cease complaining, All thy reproaches useless prove; Beauties may conquer whilst disdaining, But lose their value when they love. So when a comet does appear, Men do with trembling view the blaze; The sun too common none does fear, Nor on his beams with wonder gaze. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von MexicoDoug Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Januar 2007 10:00 An: Meteorite Mailing List Betreff: [meteorite-list] Mark Twain, a Eurochallenger, and Perihelia Martin teased the R.O.W. about some obscure Jünger fellow and hove out a who said (with clairvoyance) to cater to a more American style of literature: ...came in with Halley's comet (1835) go out with it (1910) ... Jerry quipped: Mark Twain! As my Favorite Martin wonders how Mark Twain (Was he from Florida or Cairo?) honed his halleycious hillbilly humor...here's a quote from that lovable Clemens' creation Huck: (From The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn: Huck relates his musings at night with Jim, an, an escaped slave in the antebellum U.S. South, while they lay on their backs pondering the origin of the myrid of stars visible (ROFL) from their raft floating down the Mississippi): Jim said the moon could'a laid them, well, that looked kind of reasonable, so I didn't say nothing against it, because I've seen a frog lay most as many, so of course, it could be done. We used to watch the stars that fell, too, and see them streak down. Jim allowed they'd got spoiled and was hove out of the nest. OK, enough on Mark Twain, Here's an encore Who Said? for the European contingent, as we comfortably sit back and watch the SOHO and STEREO images rolling in for Comet McNaught, after we've suffered meeting the precision timing viewing requirements in the northern hemisphere over recent days: I will have two minutes on four different orbits to photograph Halley's comet in both the visible and UV spectrum. The objective is get this data as the comet approaches perihelion, which is just as it goes around behind the sun and starts to head back out. It's a regime where we do not have any data at the present time so I've also been told we will probably be the only human beings to see it at that time. Note: Halley's Comet last was at perihelion on February 9, 1986. Pioneer 12, orbiting Venus at the time on the opposite side of the Sun, made some of the UV observations which were interpreted to mean that the rate of water loss of the 6-km diameter comet ramped up from about 10 tons to 40 tons per second at perihelion and shortly thereafter as it was primed, reached as high as 70 tons loss per second. At that rate, Halley's comet will be around for up to 50,000 years before it vanishes (hypothetically, of course assuming a bit too much for comfort regarding composition and evaporation), assuming no unforeseen changes in orbit. This would mean an average at each pass of 8 meters in diameter was hove out ... Pioneer 12 ended its mission 6 1/2 years later in 1992 as a fireball perhaps dropping Earth meteorites on Venus' surface - where meteorites don't last very long at all:-( And just a few hours later, the Peekskill meteorite from the asteroid belt was hove into the trunk of a red 1980 Chevy Malibu belonging to a pretty 17 year old girl named Michelle. Comet McNaught reaches perihelion ... later today, January 12. Let the show begin! (I believe we will all get another chace to view the comet during daylight, though it practically out of sight for everyone now... Best wishes, Good health, Doug __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Comet McNaught imaged by STEREO
Hi All, AWESOME! Its a cool comet, according to my granddaughter! The whole family watched it! Can even clearly see the 'tail'. Even educated the neighbors! Thanks! With best regards, Moni From: Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Comet McNaught imaged by STEREO Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:29:41 -0800 Hi All, Hot off the presses: http://secchi.nrl.navy.mil/images/hi1b_comet.jpg This image was taken by STEREO less than 3 hours ago. All I can say is WOW --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Get live scores and news about your team: Add the Live.com Football Page www.live.com/?addtemplate=footballicid=T001MSN30A0701 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Centimeter Cubes?
I am looking for a supplier of centimeter cubes. Anyone have a link to the traditional sort? Thanks Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Centimeter Cubes?
In a message dated 1/12/2007 6:31:15 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am looking for a supplier of centimeter cubes. Anyone have a link to the traditional sort? Thanks Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com I still have a few available. How many do you need? I don't know if Svend Buhl has any left. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Centimeter Cubes?
Hi Anne, I only need one myself, but I'd like to also find a link to someone who sells them regularly to add to my website. Let me know how much and I'll paypal you... Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com On 12 Jan 2007 at 20:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/12/2007 6:31:15 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am looking for a supplier of centimeter cubes. Anyone have a link to the traditional sort? Thanks Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com I still have a few available. How many do you need? I don't know if Svend Buhl has any left. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Ebay Auctions ended
seen here take many days to appear in the list a message, I write now. My auctions ended at few hours, who want go here http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=mcomemeteorite Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Vinci i biglietti per FIFA World Cup in Germania! yahoo.it/concorso_messenger __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteor strikes might kill people this weekend
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[meteorite-list] Fw: Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's - yes they DO
Hi Jerry, your remark is as charming as Georg Christoph Lichtenberg's aphorism: If a text and a head strike together and it sounds hollow - it's not necessarily the text. Matthias Baermann - Original Message - From: Gerald Flaherty To: Matthias Bärmann Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's - yes they DO Don't allow your epistomology to piss you off. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Matthias Bärmann To: Thaddeus Besedin ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's - yes they DO Hello Thaddeus list, I agree absolutely, my oppositional use of phenomenoligical and scientific was meant in a more daily-life-sense and not in a philosophical manner. It's clear that the above mentioned opposition is included in phenomenology itself. It's the merit of Merleau-Ponty that he postulated, against his forfathers Heidegger and Husserl, a field, a relationship, oscillating between body and mind, empirism and intellectualism, with the Leib (in German translation, unfortunately there's no equivalent in English) as a mediator between body and mind. The problem, and the main aspect of criticism of phenomenology is the fact, that Husserl as well as Heidegger as well as Merleau-Ponty underlined the necessity of experience - Husserl: tending towards die Sachen selbst (things themselves) - , but failed in establishing a real pragmatic dimension. The abyss between experience and science remained unbridged - even in the case Merleau-Ponty, who went as far as western philosophy/science allowed him to go, and who clearly fixed the problem, emphasizing the importance of the enbodiment of human experience, but remained with his concept of phenomenology in a theoritical dimension: it is, following the path of western philosophy with it's Greek origins, still philosophy as theoretical reflection. There's a very interesting reception and evolution of phenomenology in contemporary cognitivism. In this context I'd like only to mention Francisco Varela and his co-authors Evan Thompson and Eleanor Rosch) and his/their concept of an embodied mind (as embodied action) as a manifestation (or a kind of synthesis) of cognitive science and human experience. Having reached this point I want to stop here. My starting point was to criticize the completely different use of glassy in science and human experience. The complete transformation on the atomic level of the orginal matter at the surface of a meteorite via heat makes the scientist to qualify the new status of matter as glass. But glass, as we all know from common experience (which is closely connected to the empirical aspects of etymology), mainly evocates shining as well as being transparent - qualities which don't describe, regarding experience, the appearance of a frish fallen and crusted meteorite at all, whether stone nor iron. But, as we know as well: such a problematic use of language isn't the reason of, it's only symptomatic for the main problem: the fissure between experience and intellect. Regards, Matthias - Original Message - From: Thaddeus Besedin To: Matthias Bärmann Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's - yes they DO Is there really any way of determining distinctions between phenomenologicality and scientific knowledge, the ding an sich (noumenon)? We are really speaking here of an epistemology of replicable phenomena. What is seen by all is seen by one. Power inverts this relationship. The paradigmatic phenomenologist Husserl (zu den sachen selbst) was a positivistic empirical verificationist with a Platonic heart; perhaps, as with the dialectical effect of the conflict of Berkeley/Kant/Hume on their philosophical progeny, any absolutely empirical criterion is in its end itself both a denial of analytic a priori knowledge of a world - a denial of a world - and an affirmation of its necessary presence - and the presence of such a conceivable possibility as 'presence.' To think of thought as it may have been preceding the acquisition of extrinsic, codified communication - the invasion of signs - is impossible, although this must have been the case: a catalytic reference, an initial logos, possession by one's genome, by one's neurotransmitters. Husserl's eidetic-geometric-intuitive presupposition articulating his ontology violated at least one certain limit of certainty, of verification: infinite regress as one continues to find the bottom of one's being. Meaning is constructed and emerges and we become possessors of things and not the pressure, pitch,
Re: [meteorite-list] Comet
The comet was easy to see even with the naked eye here in Phoenix, central Arizona. At 6 pm local time I looked towards the setting sun and there it was. Looked great with a small pair of binoculars. --- Laurence A.J. Garvie School of Earth and Space Exploration Arizona State University --- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sonic Boom Felt in Florida?
the resulting boom over the jupiter area was from some planes based out of key west nas. MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There have been several sonic booms in Florida reported by the press the last 2-3 years. I am starting to the lean towards the possibility of a military experiment. Mark __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Aziz NWA sale
Hi Everybody. I have 4kg lot + 2.7kg individual fresh chondrites for sale at a good price.the photos are out there : http://nwastones.skyblog.com/ Anyone interested please contact me at this mail address. [EMAIL PROTECTED] All the best Aziz Alhyane Abdelaziz 83500 Morocco Phone : 21261655060 Fax : 21228237602 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's - yes they DO
It's the origin for the term PHENOM! Check out Hegel, Heidegger and Hume[the 3 H's of philisophy] Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Dave Freeman mjwy To: Matthias Bärmann Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's - yes they DO phenomenologicalIt this really a word? Sounds like a George Bush word. DF Matthias Bärmann wrote: I agree. But using an expression (also a scientific one) in a phenomenological manner we should take care to avoid a contradiction (or even tensions) between the phenomenological and the scientific dimension. - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matthias Bärmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 8:26 PM Subject: Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's - yes they DO On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 20:17:25 +0100, you wrote: But it doesn't hit the point regarding meteorites. Glassy evokes the impression of something shiny, very smooth, mirror-like. But as we all now But the laymen use of the term isn't the scientific one. Glassy means something that cooled quickly enough that it didn't have time to crystalize and is instead, on the atomic level, an amorphous mess. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Riker Boxes
Hi Michael Mark Yes we sell them. http://jensenmeteorites.com/supplies.htm Inventory is a little low right now but should have some new ones in today. You are correct that they are not the Riker brand. Main difference is there is no Riker label on the back and the cotton batting is slightly lighter. They also don't make the smallest one which I believe is 2 1/2 X 3 1/2. -- Mike -- Mike Jensen Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com On 1/12/07, MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael asked A friend asked me for advise on where to get riker boxes. You might try the Jensen's.http://jensenmeteorites.com/ They sell Riker-like cases and not the namebrand I think. Mark -- It is difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends on him not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair -- What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It is what we know for sure that just ain't so. - Josh Billings (but oft credited to Mark Twain) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fwd: Re: Lightning Balls Created In The Lab
Try putting a CD in the microwave. It doesn't create a fire ball but it is pretty neat. And it doesn't hurt the microwave Note: forwarded message attached. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ---BeginMessage--- Hi List! I remember that you can have a lot of fun with wire wool and a microwave oven. Also a nice lightning ball! But don't forget to throw the microwave away later; it won't be useful any more after that treatment. ;) Ingo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von mark ford Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Januar 2007 12:47 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Lightning Balls Created In The Lab Easy! Don't try this at home! Get a charged car battery and some 'wire wool', spray the wire wool with a small amount if silicone oil. drop some of the wool on the battery terminals, voila ball lightning, lasts for a second or so. You need to experiment on the amounts of wool to use. As I said though don't try this it's dangerous, I know I did it when I was a kid!!! Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob McCafferty Sent: 12 January 2007 02:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lightning Balls Created In The Lab Is this really new stuff? I watched Bolas Luminosas and they looked almost identical to something I saw years ago on some BBC documentary about lightning. Some Scientist used a couple of hundred Decomissioned submarine batteries to generate sparks and got the same effect. I remember showing the video to kids I taught 7-8 years ago. Rob McC --- Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They look like the ideal pets for Dave Harris in the video -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Ron Baalke Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 18:50 An: Meteorite Mailing List Betreff: [meteorite-list] Lightning Balls Created In The Lab http://www.newscientist.com/channel/fundamentals/mg19325863.500 Lightning balls created in the lab Hazel Muir New Scientist 10 January 2007 Ball lightning could soon lose its status as a mystery, now that a team in Brazil has cooked up a simple recipe for making similar eerie orbs of light in the lab, even getting them to bounce around for several seconds. Watch a movie of the boucing balls here. http://www.espacociencia.pe.gov.br/multimidia.php Thousands of people have reported seeing ball lightning, a luminous sphere that sometimes appears during thunderstorms. It is typically the size of a grapefruit and lasts for a few seconds or minutes, sometimes hovering, even bouncing along the ground. One eyewitness saw a glowing ball burn through the screen door of a house in Oregon, navigate down to the basement and wreck an old mangle, while in another report, a similar orb bounced on a Russian teacher's head more than 20 times before vanishing. One theory suggests that ball lightning is a highly ionised blob of plasma held together by its own magnetic fields, while an exotic explanation claims the cause is mini black holes created in the big bang. A more down-to-earth theory, proposed by John Abrahamson and James Dinniss at the University of Canterbury in Christchurch, New Zealand, is that ball lightning forms when lightning strikes soil, turning any silica in the soil into pure silicon vapour. As the vapour cools, the silicon condenses into a floating aerosol bound into a ball by charges that gather on its surface, and it glows with the heat of silicon recombining with oxygen. To test this idea, a team led by Antonio Pavao and Gerson Paiva from the Federal University of Pernambuco in Brazil took wafers of silicon just 350 micrometres thick, placed them between two electrodes and zapped them with currents of up to 140 amps. Then over a couple of seconds, they moved the electrodes slightly apart, creating an electrical arc that vaporised the silicon. The arc spat out glowing fragments of silicon but also, sometimes, luminous orbs the size of ping-pong balls that persisted for up to 8 seconds. The luminous balls seem to be alive, says Pavao. He says their fuzzy surfaces emitted little jets that seemed to jerk them forward or sideways, as well as smoke trails that formed spiral shapes, suggesting the balls were spinning. From their blue-white or orange-white colour, Pavao's team estimates that they have a temperature of roughly 2000 kelvin. The balls were able to melt plastic, and one even burned a hole in Paiva's jeans. These are by far the longest-lived glowing balls ever made in the lab. Earlier experiments using microwaves created luminous balls but they disappeared milliseconds
Re: [meteorite-list] Missing Tucson this year
Super tip. Thanks a lot. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Desert Tours To: meteorite-list Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Missing Tucson this year For anyone there's lots of towns like Benson 30mins away the rooms should be around $50. Kim From: Adam Hupe To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 12:38 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Missing Tucson this year Dear List Members, If anybody cares, I will NOT be attending the Tucson show this year. Although it used to be the number one show on my list, it no longer holds this title for me for several reasons, mainly the lack of decent accommodations. It seems for the last several years, some cheesy motel/hotel rips us off. We book online at $140.00 plus a night for what was advertised as a two-star facility just to find out it when we get there that it is some crack-user infested shack that should be condemned. Two years ago, the Econo Lodge tried to rip us off for nearly a $1,000.00 by charging my credit card even though we refused to stay in this falsely advertised hell hole. They tacked on an extra night before we even arrived in Tucson to make the theft complete. I used to stay by the airport but the hotels have now raised their prices to $250.00 a night. I could stay in a five-star hotel in the Caribbean for half this amount, come on, we are talking about Tucson here! The only other show I have been to where the hotels jack up their prices this much is Las Vegas and I refuse to pay $250.00 a night for a $50.00 a night room just because I am attending a convention. I was going to come down this year with my RV but decided it was not worth the risk going through the passes which are buried in snow and ice. This time of year, the coastal route is far too windy and time consuming to hardly make it worth the effort. At 53' front to back, the winds would cause havoc with my setup as anybody with any road time with a rig will tell you. I will wait until late winter when I can spend months in the field searching California before putting any of my equipment in jeopardy. I added up my receipts from last year's Tucson show and decided it would be cheaper to attend the show in Germany, something I have yet to try and look forward to. For those who will be attending the show, have a great time and stay away from the Econo Lodge! I will forward some money to my brother, Greg who will be to pay off the margaritas and beers I owe on the Moss meteorite lost wagers. All the Best, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's - yes they DO
And soul! Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Matthias Bärmann To: Thaddeus Besedin ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's - yes they DO Hello Thaddeus list, I agree absolutely, my oppositional use of phenomenoligical and scientific was meant in a more daily-life-sense and not in a philosophical manner. It's clear that the above mentioned opposition is included in phenomenology itself. It's the merit of Merleau-Ponty that he postulated, against his forfathers Heidegger and Husserl, a field, a relationship, oscillating between body and mind, empirism and intellectualism, with the Leib (in German translation, unfortunately there's no equivalent in English) as a mediator between body and mind. The problem, and the main aspect of criticism of phenomenology is the fact, that Husserl as well as Heidegger as well as Merleau-Ponty underlined the necessity of experience - Husserl: tending towards die Sachen selbst (things themselves) - , but failed in establishing a real pragmatic dimension. The abyss between experience and science remained unbridged - even in the case Merleau-Ponty, who went as far as western philosophy/science allowed him to go, and who clearly fixed the problem, emphasizing the importance of the enbodiment of human experience, but remained with his concept of phenomenology in a theoritical dimension: it is, following the path of western philosophy with it's Greek origins, still philosophy as theoretical reflection. There's a very interesting reception and evolution of phenomenology in contemporary cognitivism. In this context I'd like only to mention Francisco Varela and his co-authors Evan Thompson and Eleanor Rosch) and his/their concept of an embodied mind (as embodied action) as a manifestation (or a kind of synthesis) of cognitive science and human experience. Having reached this point I want to stop here. My starting point was to criticize the completely different use of glassy in science and human experience. The complete transformation on the atomic level of the orginal matter at the surface of a meteorite via heat makes the scientist to qualify the new status of matter as glass. But glass, as we all know from common experience (which is closely connected to the empirical aspects of etymology), mainly evocates shining as well as being transparent - qualities which don't describe, regarding experience, the appearance of a frish fallen and crusted meteorite at all, whether stone nor iron. But, as we know as well: such a problematic use of language isn't the reason of, it's only symptomatic for the main problem: the fissure between experience and intellect. Regards, Matthias - Original Message - From: Thaddeus Besedin To: Matthias Bärmann Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's - yes they DO Is there really any way of determining distinctions between phenomenologicality and scientific knowledge, the ding an sich (noumenon)? We are really speaking here of an epistemology of replicable phenomena. What is seen by all is seen by one. Power inverts this relationship. The paradigmatic phenomenologist Husserl (zu den sachen selbst) was a positivistic empirical verificationist with a Platonic heart; perhaps, as with the dialectical effect of the conflict of Berkeley/Kant/Hume on their philosophical progeny, any absolutely empirical criterion is in its end itself both a denial of analytic a priori knowledge of a world - a denial of a world - and an affirmation of its necessary presence - and the presence of such a conceivable possibility as 'presence.' To think of thought as it may have been preceding the acquisition of extrinsic, codified communication - the invasion of signs - is impossible, although this must have been the case: a catalytic reference, an initial logos, possession by one's genome, by one's neurotransmitters. Husserl's eidetic-geometric-intuitive presupposition articulating his ontology violated at least one certain limit of certainty, of verification: infinite regress as one continues to find the bottom of one's being. Meaning is constructed and emerges and we become possessors of things and not the pressure, pitch, scent, and nutrition of mothers in their progressively predictable places within cyclical constellations of cooccurring events. Memory. Diachronic distances are tantamount to spatial proximities, and we only approach a transcendent synthesis of raw event and cooked history, processed by we intermediaries called consciousnesses. We anticipate only potential - and have a sentence ready. This is how we fulfill our prophesies. Merleau-Ponty would have placed a non-phenomenalistic body
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 38, Issue 52
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 6:34 PM Subject: Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 38, Issue 52 Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Re-2: January Comet? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 2. New NASA Orbiter Sees Details of 1997 Pathfinder Site (Ron Baalke) 3. Those Aussies!! (Martin Altmann) 4. Spectarular Comet!! (Gerald Flaherty) 5. Re: Those Aussies!! (Bob WALKER) 6. AD cutting Gibeon, Henbury and a couple others. Sale (Mike Miller) 7. Dust Around Nearby Star Like Powder Snow (Ron Baalke) 8. Old Sikhote-Alin documentary film (Alexander Seidel) 9. Geologists Discover That Black Diamonds Are From Outer Space (Ron Baalke) 10. Re: Old Sikhote-Alin documentary film (ensoramanda) 11. Re: Lightning Balls Created In The Lab (Rob McCafferty) 12. Re: January Comet? (Gerald Flaherty) 13. Re: January Comet? (Gerald Flaherty) 14. Re: Re-2: January Comet? (Gerald Flaherty) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:56:20 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re-2: January Comet? To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/attachments/20070111/3459355f/attachment.html -- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:10:58 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] New NASA Orbiter Sees Details of 1997 Pathfinder Site To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com (Meteorite Mailing List) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2007-005 New NASA Orbiter Sees Details of 1997 Pathfinder Site January 11, 2007 The high-resolution camera on NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter has imaged the 1997 landing site of NASA's Mars Pathfinder, revealing new details of hardware on the surface and the geology of the region. The new image from the orbiter's High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment is available on the Internet at http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/MRO/multimedia/pia09105.html and at links from http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu . The Pathfinder mission's small rover, Sojourner, appears to have moved closer to the stationary lander after the final data transmission from the lander, based on tentative identification of the rover in the image. Pathfinder landed on July 4, 1997, and transmitted data for 12 weeks. Unlike the two larger rovers, Spirit and Opportunity, currently active on Mars, Sojourner could communicate only with the lander, not directly with Earth. The lander's ramps, science deck and portions of the airbags can be discerned in the new image. The parachute and backshell used in the spacecraft's descent lie to the south, behind a hill from the viewpoint of the lander. Four bright features may be portions of the heat shield. Rob Manning, Mars program chief engineer at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, said, The new image provides information about Pathfinder's landing and should help confirm our reconstruction of the descent as well as give us insights into the landing and the airbag bounces. Dr. Alfred McEwen of the University of Arizona, Tucson, principal investigator for the High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment, said Pathfinder's landing site is one of the most-studied places on Mars. Making connections between this new orbital image and the geological information collected at ground level aids our interpretation of orbital images of other places. For more information on Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/mro . Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is managed by JPL for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington. JPL is a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. Lockheed Martin Space Systems, Denver, is the prime contractor for the project and built the spacecraft. The High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment is operated by the University of Arizona, and the instrument was built by Ball Aerospace and Technology Corp., Boulder, Colo. Media contacts: Guy Webster 818-354-6278 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. Dwayne Brown 202-358-1726 NASA
[meteorite-list] nwa 2965/EL6/7 trade incentive (AD)
Hi list.I updated my new website CHICAGOMETEORITES.NET.,and I put up 3 pics of of nwa 2965 up.Lot#1 is 209.4 grams,Lot#2 is 218 grams,and Lot#3 is 226 grams.Again this is for trade material.But as an added incentive to trade,I will also put $40 cash to any who trade for these pieces.My way of saying thanks. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! www.chicagometeorites.net Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite micrographs added to Gallery
Hi everyone, This is Tom Phillips. It was negative numbers outside here in Idaho so I stayed in and worked on the microscope. There are 12 new additions to my micrograph Gallery hosted by Meteorite Times including 126 new images. This batch was all thin sections in cross polarized light. http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/ The meteorites were Acfer 336, Dhofar 007, Dhofar 1275, Franconia, Gold Basin, Holbrook, NWA 2090 and 2794, SaU 067 and an unclassified. There is a NEW after the name of new additions. Please check out the unclassified. I was perfecting some new (at least to me) techniques to view thin sections at high magnification in both incident and (somewhat) transmitted cross polarized light. The images are at a magnification of 1600X. Jim Strope is loaning me the NWA 482 Lunar thin section of his so I am just warming up for a new GREAT thin to examine. Let me know what you think. Thanks, Tom __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - January 13, 2007
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Re: [meteorite-list] nwa 2965/EL6/7 trade incentive (AD)
How would it be if I pay you $40 to cease and desist posting multiple ads each week and comply with the one ad per week rule. If you take me up on the offer and fail to keep to the one ad per week, you pay me $40. Dave - Original Message - From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 11:11 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] nwa 2965/EL6/7 trade incentive (AD) Hi list.I updated my new website CHICAGOMETEORITES.NET.,and I put up 3 pics of of nwa 2965 up.Lot#1 is 209.4 grams,Lot#2 is 218 grams,and Lot#3 is 226 grams.Again this is for trade material.But as an added incentive to trade,I will also put $40 cash to any who trade for these pieces.My way of saying thanks. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! www.chicagometeorites.net Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite micrographs added to Gallery
Absolutely stunning! If ever you decide to seek a second home for your thin sections let me know! Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com On 12 Jan 2007 at 23:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, This is Tom Phillips. It was negative numbers outside here in Idaho so I stayed in and worked on the microscope. There are 12 new additions to my micrograph Gallery hosted by Meteorite Times including 126 new images. This batch was all thin sections in cross polarized light. http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/ The meteorites were Acfer 336, Dhofar 007, Dhofar 1275, Franconia, Gold Basin, Holbrook, NWA 2090 and 2794, SaU 067 and an unclassified. There is a NEW after the name of new additions. Please check out the unclassified. I was perfecting some new (at least to me) techniques to view thin sections at high magnification in both incident and (somewhat) transmitted cross polarized light. The images are at a magnification of 1600X. Jim Strope is loaning me the NWA 482 Lunar thin section of his so I am just warming up for a new GREAT thin to examine. Let me know what you think. Thanks, Tom __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Harriman
Hello Members, Did you notice the Picture of the Day? _http://www.spacerocksinc.com/January_13.html_ (http://www.spacerocksinc.com/January_13.html) Mike was kind enough to accept to post it for me. This full slice of Harriman (of) does not belong to me, it belongs to the Monnig Collection but Dr Art Ehlmann asked me if I could find a buyer for it relatively quickly, because he needs to raise some funds for the Tucson Show. I am sure you can sympathize. Dr Ehlmann is such a kind, helpful person that I promised to do all I can to help, then I enlisted Mike's help! So here it is. It is a full slice, 1019 grams, it was prepared by Marlin Cilz, and it is gorgeous. Please do contact me if you are interested. Thank you very much. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: NWA SALE
After so many months its nice to have lots of nice meteorites again. My webpage is starting to look respectable again with around 200 NWAs listed for sale. New NWAs for sale are on these links: http://www.meteoriteshop.com/metsale/msale3.html and http://www.meteoriteshop.com/metsale/msale4.html 20% discount to list members for anything of interest on my website. Paypal preferred for payment I havent had a chance to list much on ebay yet but see my ebay user id AMUNRE for a hundred or so more anyway including a couple dozen started at 99 cents a couple days ago. But I should have lots of new meteorites listed on ebay again over the next few days and many will be in my ebay store so check back often. Sincerely DEAN BESSEY http://www.meteoriteshop.com Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Tucson Auction-update
Dear List Members, If you are going to be in Tucson stop by and visit us at the Westward Look Resort. We will be in building 23 - room 243. 245 East Ina Road. Tucson, Arizona. We will be open from February 1, 2007 through February 6, 2007, 10:00 a.m. to 6 p.m. everyday.Our 4th Annual Westward Look Langheinrich Meteorite Auction will be on February 3 rd, 2 p.m. Absentee bids are welcome. We added 14 more exceptional meteorite specimens to the auction making the total of 76 lots. You are welcome to view the online auction catalog. Online catalog with photos: http://www.nyrockman.com/tucson-auction-2007.htm Auction rules: http://www.nyrockman.com/auction-2007/rules.htm Show details: http://www.nyrockman.com/tucson-2007.htm Note: absentee bids are welcome There is NO buyer's premium what you bid is what you pay! Please stop by the Westward Look to say hello, enjoy the beautiful hotel grounds, visit our extensive meteorite display and enjoy a complimentary refreshment. Sincerely, Iris Allan Lang www.nyrockman.com www.langsfossils.com mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list