Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Show and Birthday Bash!!
Hi All, I have to agree with Ruben, it was a blast! More tomorrow! Moni _ Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your Live.com page. http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDayocid=T001MSN30A0701 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New FALL in Turkey
Dear Bjorn and List, I agree with Bjorn, watching the pictures on the article there is no doubt that this is a stony meteorite and I would even risk a speculation that with the fair grey chips it looks like another LL6... OK, I know, one should wait until it is analysed of course! ;o)) Good luck to hunters who will make the trip to Turkey! Best wishes, Fred Lyon, France - Original Message - From: Bjorn Sorheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 9:42 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] New FALL in Turkey List. Hey, what's the matter with YOU Lot! There is A NEW FALL in Turkey is there NOT?! Why no dicussion frenzy? Why are you not SCRAMBLING to go there?! I'm shure MIKE is?! Looking at the pictures in the article, I can definitly say is a stony meteorite, no doubt about it I would say... (The only doubt is how much carbon it contains - haha!) Any more information about this fall? Links? I'm shure there must be more stones on the ground... Personally I heard a bang from above at 15:25 in the afternoon on that very day here in Norway(?). I even wrote it down in my notebook to check it later. Forgot about it untill today! Other norwegians have noted strong meteors going north to south about this time it now seems... Regards, Bjørn Sørheim From: Mike Groetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2007-02-03 03:41:09 CET To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite lands in Didim http://www.voicesnewspaper.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=477 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New FALL in Turkey
One reason would be that Turkey might in fact be the most dangerous country in the world to remove a meteorite from. Turkey has extreme laws about removal of ANYTHING! People I know say that at the airports there are warnings about removing even a pebble or sea shell. Jail sentances are handed down for people caught at the airport removing pieces of cultural treasures and I think that they might not like their newest meteorite fall leaving the country in a carry-on. I am going to pass on this one! Michael farmer --- Fred Caillou Noir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Bjorn and List, I agree with Bjorn, watching the pictures on the article there is no doubt that this is a stony meteorite and I would even risk a speculation that with the fair grey chips it looks like another LL6... OK, I know, one should wait until it is analysed of course! ;o)) Good luck to hunters who will make the trip to Turkey! Best wishes, Fred Lyon, France - Original Message - From: Bjorn Sorheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 9:42 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] New FALL in Turkey List. Hey, what's the matter with YOU Lot! There is A NEW FALL in Turkey is there NOT?! Why no dicussion frenzy? Why are you not SCRAMBLING to go there?! I'm shure MIKE is?! Looking at the pictures in the article, I can definitly say is a stony meteorite, no doubt about it I would say... (The only doubt is how much carbon it contains - haha!) Any more information about this fall? Links? I'm shure there must be more stones on the ground... Personally I heard a bang from above at 15:25 in the afternoon on that very day here in Norway(?). I even wrote it down in my notebook to check it later. Forgot about it untill today! Other norwegians have noted strong meteors going north to south about this time it now seems... Regards, Bjørn Sørheim From: Mike Groetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2007-02-03 03:41:09 CET To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite lands in Didim http://www.voicesnewspaper.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=477 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New FALL in Turkey
This is correct. You better not carry a nice sea shell, let alone some good replica of something looking antique (...let alone a meteorite!!!) in your baggage when leaving Turkey. They are tough-minded on this, and your are risking draconic fines. I met with a collector friend in Turkey last year, on the occasion of the total solar eclipse. We both agreed to better not carry any of our own meteorites with us for some showing and trading, as we sometimes do, when we meet. Too high a risk! Alex Berlin/Germany One reason would be that Turkey might in fact be the most dangerous country in the world to remove a meteorite from. Turkey has extreme laws about removal of ANYTHING! People I know say that at the airports there are warnings about removing even a pebble or sea shell. Jail sentances are handed down for people caught at the airport removing pieces of cultural treasures and I think that they might not like their newest meteorite fall leaving the country in a carry-on. I am going to pass on this one! Michael farmer --- Fred Caillou Noir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Bjorn and List, I agree with Bjorn, watching the pictures on the article there is no doubt that this is a stony meteorite and I would even risk a speculation that with the fair grey chips it looks like another LL6... OK, I know, one should wait until it is analysed of course! ;o)) Good luck to hunters who will make the trip to Turkey! Best wishes, Fred Lyon, France - Original Message - From: Bjorn Sorheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 9:42 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] New FALL in Turkey List. Hey, what's the matter with YOU Lot! There is A NEW FALL in Turkey is there NOT?! Why no dicussion frenzy? Why are you not SCRAMBLING to go there?! I'm shure MIKE is?! Looking at the pictures in the article, I can definitly say is a stony meteorite, no doubt about it I would say... (The only doubt is how much carbon it contains - haha!) Any more information about this fall? Links? I'm shure there must be more stones on the ground... Personally I heard a bang from above at 15:25 in the afternoon on that very day here in Norway(?). I even wrote it down in my notebook to check it later. Forgot about it untill today! Other norwegians have noted strong meteors going north to south about this time it now seems... Regards, Bjørn Sørheim From: Mike Groetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2007-02-03 03:41:09 CET To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite lands in Didim http://www.voicesnewspaper.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=477 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New FALL in Turkey
I was wondering if the movie Midnight Express was still accurate... Cheers, Pete From: Alexander Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED],meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New FALL in Turkey Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:15:48 +0100 This is correct. You better not carry a nice sea shell, let alone some good replica of something looking antique (...let alone a meteorite!!!) in your baggage when leaving Turkey. They are tough-minded on this, and your are risking draconic fines. I met with a collector friend in Turkey last year, on the occasion of the total solar eclipse. We both agreed to better not carry any of our own meteorites with us for some showing and trading, as we sometimes do, when we meet. Too high a risk! Alex Berlin/Germany One reason would be that Turkey might in fact be the most dangerous country in the world to remove a meteorite from. Turkey has extreme laws about removal of ANYTHING! People I know say that at the airports there are warnings about removing even a pebble or sea shell. Jail sentances are handed down for people caught at the airport removing pieces of cultural treasures and I think that they might not like their newest meteorite fall leaving the country in a carry-on. I am going to pass on this one! Michael farmer --- Fred Caillou Noir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Bjorn and List, I agree with Bjorn, watching the pictures on the article there is no doubt that this is a stony meteorite and I would even risk a speculation that with the fair grey chips it looks like another LL6... OK, I know, one should wait until it is analysed of course! ;o)) Good luck to hunters who will make the trip to Turkey! Best wishes, Fred Lyon, France - Original Message - From: Bjorn Sorheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 9:42 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] New FALL in Turkey List. Hey, what's the matter with YOU Lot! There is A NEW FALL in Turkey is there NOT?! Why no dicussion frenzy? Why are you not SCRAMBLING to go there?! I'm shure MIKE is?! Looking at the pictures in the article, I can definitly say is a stony meteorite, no doubt about it I would say... (The only doubt is how much carbon it contains - haha!) Any more information about this fall? Links? I'm shure there must be more stones on the ground... Personally I heard a bang from above at 15:25 in the afternoon on that very day here in Norway(?). I even wrote it down in my notebook to check it later. Forgot about it untill today! Other norwegians have noted strong meteors going north to south about this time it now seems... Regards, Bjørn Sørheim From: Mike Groetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2007-02-03 03:41:09 CET To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite lands in Didim http://www.voicesnewspaper.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=477 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Free Alerts : Be smart - let your information find you ! http://alerts.live.com/Alerts/Default.aspx __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AIT OUZROU MOHAMED
ORB ELLIOTT??? Well, what comes around goes around. Badum, tshhh Rob'll be sad he missed this one if it'd make him laugh as much as I did. --- adrar fossile [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dera list and MATEO and ORB ELLIOTT , me i'm ait ouzrou mohamed i don't fear from any one and i don't creep in dealing .and i don't like to say any thing about any one and my name is know by all the world .then i'm not a child to do this bad work and i have 51 years old and i have 9 dauthers and i do commerce in this domain from 1976 . it's is not my habit doing work as this , if i start to tell my probleme about any one all the dealers of meteorites feel that i'm cheaten by more people but i prefer to keep this . so u can try to stop speaking about any one or you will lost your trust with any one then they can tell you the big hypocrite . and about the bad work in the list meteorite is not me who do it .and i know this persen but i want to keep it ,and i treath him to stop doing bad work as this . about you and your friend MATTEO you had bad habit speaking about dealers . and it is not the first time i deal with meteorite's person i have all my paper for dealing since 1991 . about calling me a cheater ( show the good quality and shiping the bad ) is wrong and false , and when it happend my stones will come back to me , you can ask about this all dealers of meteorites . and we are not stupid moroccans we know that we buy the good quality of meteorites by the low price and it's not probleme , i prefer the dealer win with me but doesn't lost . so i want to tell you my last advise ; you must avoid speaking about any one espicelly moroccans . and about your friend MR MATTEO he say that meteorites come from ALGERIA he can go and bring it in that place .in addition you can look in any place in the world if you find 200 kg from one person and i deal with you MATTEO i lost and more you speak about in list metteorite and it's not probleme coz is my money : my full name is AIT OUZROU MOHAMED MY EAMILS ARE : [EMAIL PROTECTED]AND [EMAIL PROTECTED] AND [EMAIL PROTECTED] AND [EMAIL PROTECTED] THESE ARE MY EMAILS . AND THE NAME OF MY SHOP LA ROSE DE SABLE . AND MY FONE NUMBER IS +21211417997 MY GREAT GREETING TO ALL MEMBERS OF LIST METEORITES MOHAMED AIT OUZROU - Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] fireball over midwest
Hello list members. Received two frantic calls from hunters who say there was a huge meteor over Illinois, Indiana and reports from Missouri. It was talked about by Paul Harvey this morning and it sounds like something large came in. Does anyone have more details? Thanks, E.T. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Bright Light Spotted in Missouri Sky
http://www.myfoxstl.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=2275136version=1locale=EN-USlayoutCode=TSTYpageId=3.2.1 Bright Light Spotted in the Sky MyFox (St. Louis, Missouri) February 4, 2007 We've had several reports Sunday night of a big ball of green light that was seen in the sky heading towards the north. Several area police agencies also received calls from people 9 who saw the strange light. It was seen just before 8 pm local time. The Missouri Highway Patrol reported sightings from as far south as Cape Girardeau, and as far west as Jefferson City. The St. Francois County Sheriff's Departments tells FOX 2 News that have a report indicating the light is being investigated by FEMA, NORAD, and the FAA, and it might have been either a meteorite shower or space debris burning in the atmosphere. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bright Light Spotted in Missouri Sky
Good Morning All, I really wish reporters would be more educated about things like that! A meteorite shower? Guess no one reported a sonic boom. With best regrads, Moni From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com (Meteorite Mailing List) Subject: [meteorite-list] Bright Light Spotted in Missouri Sky Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:19:11 -0800 (PST) http://www.myfoxstl.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=2275136version=1locale=EN-USlayoutCode=TSTYpageId=3.2.1 Bright Light Spotted in the Sky MyFox (St. Louis, Missouri) February 4, 2007 We've had several reports Sunday night of a big ball of green light that was seen in the sky heading towards the north. Several area police agencies also received calls from people 9 who saw the strange light. It was seen just before 8 pm local time. The Missouri Highway Patrol reported sightings from as far south as Cape Girardeau, and as far west as Jefferson City. The St. Francois County Sheriff's Departments tells FOX 2 News that have a report indicating the light is being investigated by FEMA, NORAD, and the FAA, and it might have been either a meteorite shower or space debris burning in the atmosphere. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ From predictions to trailers, check out the MSN Entertainment Guide to the Academy Awards® http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline1 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] fireball over midwest
Contrary to the article posted by Ron, the fireball was traveling mainly north to south, and it looks like most of the action was over west central Illinois. It was west of Champaign. I have independent reports from Beardstown and Lewistown (30 miles apart) of sonic booms after the fireball passed overhead, with short enough time delays to suggest that the object was fairly low at that point (15-20 miles). One witness also reported electrophonic noise. Termination was probably somewhere between Beardstown and St Louis. I'm not investigating this fireball myself, but thought I'd pass along the information that has come my way. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Edwin Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:21 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] fireball over midwest Hello list members. Received two frantic calls from hunters who say there was a huge meteor over Illinois, Indiana and reports from Missouri. It was talked about by Paul Harvey this morning and it sounds like something large came in. Does anyone have more details? Thanks, E.T. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bright Light Spotted in Missouri Sky
Hi, It was widely seen: Missouri, Illinois, Iowa, and Wisconsin. No indication or mention of direction so far. Sterling K. Webb --- http://www.katc.com/Global/story.asp?S=6037565 MILWAUKEE (AP) - From southeastern Wisconsin to as far as Des Moines, Iowa and St. Louis, people reported seeing balls of fire, possibly meteors, streaking across the sky Sunday night. No major meteor showers were expected in the northern hemisphere on Sunday night, said Jim Lattis, director of the University of Wisconsin-Madison astronomy department's Space Place. But he said it was possible that a minor shower may have been what prompted calls to authorities. The National Weather Service's Sullivan office said reports were called in from Iowa, northern Illinois and on up to Green Bay. Dozens of people throughout the St. Louis region and Illinois reported small objects that looked like bright lights or something burning, with flaming tails behind some of them, said Ken Tretter, with the Missouri State Highway Patrol in St. Louis. In Wisconsin, a Waukesha County dispatch supervisor said two callers reported a sighting around 8:15 p.m. The Winnebago County Sheriff's Department said it received calls from Oshkosh, Ripon, Appleton, Neenah, and Pulaski, among others. A preliminary report Sunday indicated that the lights were from a meteor, said Maj. April Cunningham, a spokeswoman for North American Aerospace Defense Command, or NORAD, which watches for airborne threats to the United States and Canada. We had a pilot reporting seeing a meteor and that's really all the information we have tonight, Cunningham said. - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:19 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Bright Light Spotted in Missouri Sky http://www.myfoxstl.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=2275136version=1locale=EN-USlayoutCode=TSTYpageId=3.2.1 Bright Light Spotted in the Sky MyFox (St. Louis, Missouri) February 4, 2007 We've had several reports Sunday night of a big ball of green light that was seen in the sky heading towards the north. Several area police agencies also received calls from people 9 who saw the strange light. It was seen just before 8 pm local time. The Missouri Highway Patrol reported sightings from as far south as Cape Girardeau, and as far west as Jefferson City. The St. Francois County Sheriff's Departments tells FOX 2 News that have a report indicating the light is being investigated by FEMA, NORAD, and the FAA, and it might have been either a meteorite shower or space debris burning in the atmosphere. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] fireball over midwest
Hi, somewhere between Beardstown and St Louis... My back yard, give or take 30 miles or so. A stretch of low population density, a rural area with some vertical (for the midwest) topography, not flat like Kansas or central Illinois, a goodly percentage of wooded land, the west side of the Illinois River valley. Tonight is expected to be the coldest night of the year, and one or more inches of snow is predicted. Not exactly the ideal recovery zone... The Nininger tactic of advertising in a multitude of small town papers comes to mind Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Chris Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] fireball over midwest Contrary to the article posted by Ron, the fireball was traveling mainly north to south, and it looks like most of the action was over west central Illinois. It was west of Champaign. I have independent reports from Beardstown and Lewistown (30 miles apart) of sonic booms after the fireball passed overhead, with short enough time delays to suggest that the object was fairly low at that point (15-20 miles). One witness also reported electrophonic noise. Termination was probably somewhere between Beardstown and St Louis. I'm not investigating this fireball myself, but thought I'd pass along the information that has come my way. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Edwin Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:21 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] fireball over midwest Hello list members. Received two frantic calls from hunters who say there was a huge meteor over Illinois, Indiana and reports from Missouri. It was talked about by Paul Harvey this morning and it sounds like something large came in. Does anyone have more details? Thanks, E.T. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] fireball over midwest
Hi, The original report Ron posted covers the region from 25-30 miles north of St. Louis to as far south as Cape Girardeau, a stretch of perhaps 130 miles or more. From Beardstown to Cape Girardeau is more like 200 miles. If it was at 15-20 miles altitude at Beardstown, this would be a very shallow trajectory. Always possible (if this is true) that it was the extended progressive breakup of a larger object. A shallow trajectory, of course, is more likely to drop an intact meteoroid and elevate its status to meteorite. As for the northerly direction of travel, please note that it is Fox News, who have most things backwards... Below is another news report. Sterling K. Webb - http://www.kcci.com/news/10933402/detail.html MILWAUKEE -- Balls of fire streaking across the sky Sunday night from Wisconsin to Iowa were from a meteor, according to the North American Aerospace Defense Command, which watches for airborne threats to the U.S. and Canada. Jim Lattis is with the astronomy department at the University of Wisconsin at Madison. He said no major meteor showers were expected in the northern hemisphere -- but it was possible that a minor shower may have prompted the calls to authorities. The National Weather Service reports calls from Iowa, northern Illinois and on up to Green Bay as well as in the St. Louis region. - Original Message - From: Chris Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] fireball over midwest Contrary to the article posted by Ron, the fireball was traveling mainly north to south, and it looks like most of the action was over west central Illinois. It was west of Champaign. I have independent reports from Beardstown and Lewistown (30 miles apart) of sonic booms after the fireball passed overhead, with short enough time delays to suggest that the object was fairly low at that point (15-20 miles). One witness also reported electrophonic noise. Termination was probably somewhere between Beardstown and St Louis. I'm not investigating this fireball myself, but thought I'd pass along the information that has come my way. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Edwin Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:21 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] fireball over midwest Hello list members. Received two frantic calls from hunters who say there was a huge meteor over Illinois, Indiana and reports from Missouri. It was talked about by Paul Harvey this morning and it sounds like something large came in. Does anyone have more details? Thanks, E.T. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Ebay auctions - beautiful pieces!
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Re: [meteorite-list] fireball over midwest
Note that my estimates were very speculative, based on limited reports. An experienced observer in Champaign reported it to his west following an approximately 45° angle of descent. So it doesn't sound like this was very shallow. I haven't read anything (yet) to suggest that any of the more southern witnesses saw the meteor near them. It is not unusual to see a meteor 150 miles away; in the absence of other evidence, my thinking is that the object was fairly low at Beardstown, didn't travel much farther south, and the witnesses to the south were simply seeing it far to their north. The speed and duration suggest a ground path perhaps 100 miles long. More reports would be good. Following the Russian rocket body decay over Colorado last month, Fox news called it a Quadrantid meteor shower from an extinct constellation. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] fireball over midwest Hi, The original report Ron posted covers the region from 25-30 miles north of St. Louis to as far south as Cape Girardeau, a stretch of perhaps 130 miles or more. From Beardstown to Cape Girardeau is more like 200 miles. If it was at 15-20 miles altitude at Beardstown, this would be a very shallow trajectory. Always possible (if this is true) that it was the extended progressive breakup of a larger object. A shallow trajectory, of course, is more likely to drop an intact meteoroid and elevate its status to meteorite. As for the northerly direction of travel, please note that it is Fox News, who have most things backwards... Below is another news report. Sterling K. Webb __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] fireball over midwest NUMBER THREE
Hi, This is an earlier piece from Fox News nationally, but I include it here because it mentions two other sighting locations: Alton and Bunker Hill, Illinois. A vector drawn through these two towns precisely parallels a vector drawn through Beardstown and Lewistown, but the two vectors are at a distance of 75-80 miles apart. They do not point toward Gape Girardeau, Missouri. If the object passed between the Beardstown- Lewistown line and the Alton-BunkerHill line, its heading would be about 180 degrees and take it not too far west of Cape Girardeau. The heading of 180 suggests a possibility: one of the 500-odd large fragments of a certain Chinese polar satellite which would indeed have a shallow trajectory and a low entry velocity. Assuming we're tracking those chunks, we may know before long, or not. Sterling K. Webb (story follows) http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,250323,00.html Possible Meteors Light Up Midwestern Skies Monday, February 05, 2007 ST. LOUIS - Dozens of people in eastern and central Missouri and parts of Illinois reported seeing flaming objects falling from the sky Sunday evening. People reported small objects that looked like bright lights or something burning, with flaming tails behind some of them, said Ken Tretter, with the Missouri State Highway Patrol in St. Louis. He said the reports came in from a widespread area, including St. Louis, Cape Girardeau and Pettis County in Missouri and near Alton and Bunker Hill in Illinois. A preliminary report Sunday indicated that the lights were from a meteor, said Maj. April Cunningham, a spokeswoman for North American Aerospace Defense Command, or NORAD, which watches for airborne threats to the United States and Canada. We had a pilot reporting seeing a meteor and that's really all the information we have tonight, Cunningham said. - Original Message - From: Chris Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] fireball over midwest Contrary to the article posted by Ron, the fireball was traveling mainly north to south, and it looks like most of the action was over west central Illinois. It was west of Champaign. I have independent reports from Beardstown and Lewistown (30 miles apart) of sonic booms after the fireball passed overhead, with short enough time delays to suggest that the object was fairly low at that point (15-20 miles). One witness also reported electrophonic noise. Termination was probably somewhere between Beardstown and St Louis. I'm not investigating this fireball myself, but thought I'd pass along the information that has come my way. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Edwin Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:21 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] fireball over midwest Hello list members. Received two frantic calls from hunters who say there was a huge meteor over Illinois, Indiana and reports from Missouri. It was talked about by Paul Harvey this morning and it sounds like something large came in. Does anyone have more details? Thanks, E.T. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] fireball over midwest
i'm going to go out and check my back yard. take care susan - Original Message - From: Chris Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] fireball over midwest Contrary to the article posted by Ron, the fireball was traveling mainly north to south, and it looks like most of the action was over west central Illinois. It was west of Champaign. I have independent reports from Beardstown and Lewistown (30 miles apart) of sonic booms after the fireball passed overhead, with short enough time delays to suggest that the object was fairly low at that point (15-20 miles). One witness also reported electrophonic noise. Termination was probably somewhere between Beardstown and St Louis. I'm not investigating this fireball myself, but thought I'd pass along the information that has come my way. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Edwin Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:21 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] fireball over midwest Hello list members. Received two frantic calls from hunters who say there was a huge meteor over Illinois, Indiana and reports from Missouri. It was talked about by Paul Harvey this morning and it sounds like something large came in. Does anyone have more details? Thanks, E.T. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball Over Denmark
Another bad place to go hunting but, there was a fireball (2 actually) seen over Denmark on the 25th of January. A bit closer to home, I'm surprised that you didn't here about this one Bjørn. I had to rely on my mother-in-law who lives just north of the burst point to tell me about this one. Anyway, the article that I've translated below suggests that the burst occurred over water, east of Sweden. A later article suggests that the hunt is on at Møn and that experts are 'sure that the meteorite lies somewhere on Møn.' I haven't heard any reports of sonic booms yet. Info at (for those who read danish), http://www.tv2east.dk/nyhed_vis.php?id=20059 http://www.tv2east.dk/nyhed_vis.php?id=22100 An a picture of the fireball from N. Germany (up-down streak just above the buildings on the left). http://www.nathimus.ku.dk/geomus/forside/ildkugle3.htm _ Translated from TV2 East (pardon any mistakes/liberties that I've made in the translation) Fireball flies over Sealand Many people saw a bright fireball early this morning. Many people notified the Tycho Brahe Planetarium that they had seen what an *ahem* astrologer (should have be 'astronom' but who hasn't had someone call them an astrologer by mistake?) calls a big shooting star, a so-called fireball. These people have seen a very bright meteor, or, as people commonly call it, a shooting star. We call them fireballs because they are so bright, you can nearly see like it is daylight, says Linden Vørnle from the Tycho Brahe Planetarium. Tove Byskov stood beside her car at Sealand's Odde when she saw the wonderful sight. I thought at first it was an airplane, but flew much quicker and there was a bright light that was very wonderful. Astronomers believe that the meteor went down in the water east of Sweden. The meteor was captured by an automatic camera that is setup at the Niels Bohr Institute in Copenhagen. The last meteorite (in Denmark) was found in 1951 in the Marselis forest by Århus. _ -- Michael Mazur Vigdelsvegen 523 4054 Tjelta Norway __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] fireball over midwest
Hi, If it had a 45-degree angle of descent at Champaign or Beardstown it would intersect the ground at a distance south of the observation equal to its altitude at the point of observation. I recall a longish thread some years ago, in which Rob Matson discussed the mathematics of angle observation from the ground and demonstrated, I believe, that determining the actual angle is impossible without multiple observations, however detailed any one observation may be. With sightings from Appleton, Wisconsin to Cape Girardeau, Missouri (575 miles), and assuming it lit up at 60 miles altitude and dropped to zero in 575 miles, produces a 6 degree angle of descent in the straight-line approximation. Of course, it isn't a straight line... A 100 mile descent from 15-20 miles altitude from Beardstown would bring it down north of St. Louis, in my backyard literally (goes to look for craters). A 100 mile descent from 15-20 miles altitude from Lewistown would bring it down 20 miles inside Illinois. Today's newspaper accounts in St. Louis don't sound like local Missouri witnesses saw something on their far Northern horizon, which would be too cluttered to see within 10 degrees of the horizon almost everywhere: The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that calls flooded 911 operators and area police departments, the Missouri Highway Patrol said. Callers described the spectacle in various ways, some saying it looked like a plane crash and others calling it a ball of fire in the sky. Sterling PS. I see Susan beat me to the backyard joke. - Original Message - From: Chris Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] fireball over midwest Note that my estimates were very speculative, based on limited reports. An experienced observer in Champaign reported it to his west following an approximately 45° angle of descent. So it doesn't sound like this was very shallow. I haven't read anything (yet) to suggest that any of the more southern witnesses saw the meteor near them. It is not unusual to see a meteor 150 miles away; in the absence of other evidence, my thinking is that the object was fairly low at Beardstown, didn't travel much farther south, and the witnesses to the south were simply seeing it far to their north. The speed and duration suggest a ground path perhaps 100 miles long. More reports would be good. Following the Russian rocket body decay over Colorado last month, Fox news called it a Quadrantid meteor shower from an extinct constellation. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] fireball over midwest Hi, The original report Ron posted covers the region from 25-30 miles north of St. Louis to as far south as Cape Girardeau, a stretch of perhaps 130 miles or more. From Beardstown to Cape Girardeau is more like 200 miles. If it was at 15-20 miles altitude at Beardstown, this would be a very shallow trajectory. Always possible (if this is true) that it was the extended progressive breakup of a larger object. A shallow trajectory, of course, is more likely to drop an intact meteoroid and elevate its status to meteorite. As for the northerly direction of travel, please note that it is Fox News, who have most things backwards... Below is another news report. Sterling K. Webb __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lang Auction Results
Good Afternoon List, Does anybody have the final results from Saturday's Lang auction? I would like to verify a few things. If someone could please contact me off-list with this info, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time. Cheers, Ryan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD/SALE/BIG DISCOUNTS/NEED HELP/NEW WEBSITE
I have been working on building one of those fancy ecommerce websites for almost a year now - ever since ebay raised their listing fees on store items between 250% and 500% last year and I got reinspired recently after ebay announced yet another fee increase in my bread and butter under $10 items. Its been tough going and I have had to learn minimal PHP programming but I think that I have something that works now. There are still some bugs and I need to fix up a couple things but nothing serious now (I hope anyway). So without further adio my new ecommerce website is located at: http://www.neptuneposeidon.com/ A big 30% discount of anything of interest and only $5 postage in total no matter how much that you order. THIS DEAL AND DISCOUNT ONLY APPLIES FOR TODAY AND ONLY FOR THE NEW SHOPPING CART. I WANT TO TEST THE SHOPPING CART TO SEE IF IT WORKS SO OFFERING A HUGE DISCOUNT TO MAKE SURE SOMEBODY MAKES A PURCHASE. I want to see what problems that I will have with the site. However, there is a catch to this deal. In order to get it you have to register on the site as a user and do a checkout. I havent tested the paypal checkout yet so when you checkout click check/money order and I will send you another email with the total afterwards that you can use for paypal. I just want to see if my shopping cart site works before I start loading a lot of stuff on it. There is a bug in the system where the items wont show sold until somebody finished the checkout process. This means that if two people attempts to buy the same item at the same time the second person to checkout wont know that the item has already been sold. So, in the event that two people buy the same item the first person to finish the checkout process will get the item. Now I will hold my breath and see if my site works: Cheers DEAN And the new website that you have never seen before is: http://www.neptuneposeidon.com/ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sale
Dear list members, I really need to raise some extra cash! Check these out! Can try to make better photos if needed. eBay items: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZspacerocksinc Sincerely, Michael Johnson SPACE ROCKS, INC. 932 Hanging Rock Road Boiling Springs, South Carolina 29316-7401 USA http://www.spacerocksinc.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lang Auction Results
And I'm still looking for results from Blood's auction. David H. - Original Message From: RYAN PAWELSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 5, 2007 4:16:37 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lang Auction Results Good Afternoon List, Does anybody have the final results from Saturday's Lang auction? I would like to verify a few things. If someone could please contact me off-list with this info, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time. Cheers, Ryan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lang Auction Results
Me too. Meanwhile I've asked Michael Blood via e-mail, but - no answer until now. Matthias B. - Original Message - From: David Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RYAN PAWELSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lang Auction Results And I'm still looking for results from Blood's auction. David H. - Original Message From: RYAN PAWELSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 5, 2007 4:16:37 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lang Auction Results Good Afternoon List, Does anybody have the final results from Saturday's Lang auction? I would like to verify a few things. If someone could please contact me off-list with this info, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time. Cheers, Ryan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lang Auction Results
Michael Blood has nothing to do with the Lang sale. Mike --- Matthias Bärmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me too. Meanwhile I've asked Michael Blood via e-mail, but - no answer until now. Matthias B. - Original Message - From: David Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RYAN PAWELSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lang Auction Results And I'm still looking for results from Blood's auction. David H. - Original Message From: RYAN PAWELSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 5, 2007 4:16:37 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lang Auction Results Good Afternoon List, Does anybody have the final results from Saturday's Lang auction? I would like to verify a few things. If someone could please contact me off-list with this info, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time. Cheers, Ryan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lang Auction Results
I have been to both. Don't have specific results. However both auctions did really well, especially Al's. Some really low value pieces sold high at Bloods auction. So, get ready to pay substantially more for meteorites in the very near future. In fact its already here. The Moroccans were out of the good stuff. Last year I found over a dozen oriented stonys, this year only one and I PAID dearly for it. Bob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Seymchan Slices End Cuts For Sale
I'm processing a slab of Seymchan Sidreite and I have several Slices available at $1 per gram. The slices vary in thickness but the average weight is about 150 grams You can see a few of the etched slices by going to my Photobucket site at http://s131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Meteorites/ The pictures of the slices contain measurements to give you an idea of the size of the slices Since I'm the one cutting them, I can select a slice that suits your individual tastes, thin or thick. I also have a couple odd end cuts and I will have some really small slices very soon. If you're interested or want more info please email me off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lang Auction Results
Thanks, Mike. But Michael Blood could have something to do with the Blood sale, I guess ( = my post responded to David's statement below, supplementary to the Lang-question ;-) Cheers, Matthias - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matthias Bärmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lang Auction Results Michael Blood has nothing to do with the Lang sale. Mike --- Matthias Bärmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me too. Meanwhile I've asked Michael Blood via e-mail, but - no answer until now. Matthias B. - Original Message - From: David Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RYAN PAWELSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lang Auction Results And I'm still looking for results from Blood's auction. David H. - Original Message From: RYAN PAWELSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 5, 2007 4:16:37 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lang Auction Results Good Afternoon List, Does anybody have the final results from Saturday's Lang auction? I would like to verify a few things. If someone could please contact me off-list with this info, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time. Cheers, Ryan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 2007 Michael Blood Auction
Hi All, As I e-mailed David privately, I believe Michael prefers that attendees not report final prices from his Tucson auction in a wide distribution forum such as this. While meteorite aficionados who have been collecting for many years realize that auction prices have little or no bearing on expected retail prices, new collectors might be discouraged from buying dealer items that typically (but not always!) have higher per-gram prices than comparable pieces that sold at auction. And I certainly think it would be a disservice to the many meteorite dealers working hard in Tucson to have such a price list posted while the show is still ongoing. Now if you were an absentee bidder on one or more items, then I can understand your curiosity about what they went for. For those of you in this camp, I recorded the final prices of all lots up to #108 (but unfortunately did not track the dozens of last-minute entries that did not appear in Michael's online catalog). I can provide specific prices, privately, on a case-by-case basis as long as I don't get too overwhelmed with requests (and I don't get a call/e-mail from Michael in the mean time asking not to do it!) This is my first day back from the show (which was terrific, as usual!) so I'll be a bit frazzled for the next day or two getting caught up on work and e-mail. --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] fireball over midwest
A few general observations about witness reports, based on looking at a few thousand over the years: -People can't judge elevation. An object 10-20° above the horizon will often be reported as 45° or higher. -People can't judge time. A sonic boom that occurs several minutes after a fireball will usually be reported as less than 30 seconds. -People don't see things overhead, they see things on the horizon. With nearly every fireball I've tracked, the majority of reports come from 100-200 miles from the path. Relatively few witnesses are under the path. -Comparisons to planes crashing, and references to objects hitting the ground nearby, usually suggest a fireball 100-200 miles distant. I've now seen quite a few more reports, and think my original assessment remains reasonable- this was a fairly short ground path (~100 miles), beginning south of Davenport and ending north of St Louis, dropping at a moderate slope (30°). The St Louis reports are just right for something that ended 50 or so miles north of the city. If I were out hunting for meteorites (and with the multiple reports of sonic booms, there's good reason to expect them), I'd be looking for witnesses in the towns around Jacksonville, IL. Find people who saw an overhead terminal explosion, and find people who heard sonic booms. That will put you in the right area. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] fireball over midwest Hi, If it had a 45-degree angle of descent at Champaign or Beardstown it would intersect the ground at a distance south of the observation equal to its altitude at the point of observation. I recall a longish thread some years ago, in which Rob Matson discussed the mathematics of angle observation from the ground and demonstrated, I believe, that determining the actual angle is impossible without multiple observations, however detailed any one observation may be. With sightings from Appleton, Wisconsin to Cape Girardeau, Missouri (575 miles), and assuming it lit up at 60 miles altitude and dropped to zero in 575 miles, produces a 6 degree angle of descent in the straight-line approximation. Of course, it isn't a straight line... A 100 mile descent from 15-20 miles altitude from Beardstown would bring it down north of St. Louis, in my backyard literally (goes to look for craters). A 100 mile descent from 15-20 miles altitude from Lewistown would bring it down 20 miles inside Illinois. Today's newspaper accounts in St. Louis don't sound like local Missouri witnesses saw something on their far Northern horizon, which would be too cluttered to see within 10 degrees of the horizon almost everywhere: The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that calls flooded 911 operators and area police departments, the Missouri Highway Patrol said. Callers described the spectacle in various ways, some saying it looked like a plane crash and others calling it a ball of fire in the sky. Sterling __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Korea Finds Its First Meteorites In Antarctica - Seek 2nd Antarctic Station
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2007/02/06/200702060061.asp Korea seeks 2nd Antarctic station The Korea Herald February 5, 2007 The Korea Polar Research Institute said yesterday it will embark on a two-month field investigation in Antarctica to look for a site to establish a second Korean station. It plans to complete the construction of the new station by 2012. KOPRI, which is affiliated to the Ministry of Maritime Affairs and Fisheries, said two of its researchers will on the Russian research ship Academic Fedorov around the eastern Antarctic starting Feb. 7. The two researchers - Kim Dong-yup and Chung Kyong-ho - will visit Russia's five stations in the Antarctic to see how they operate, and collect information to be applied to the running of Korea's second station, KOPRI said. Korea already has a permanent research station, King Sejong, at Barton Peninsula on King George Island, located 120 kilometers off the coast of Antarctica in the Southern Ocean. The 20-year-old King Sejong Station is the main site for Korean research activities in Antarctica. The King Sejong Station is technically located outside the latitudinal boundaries of the Antarctic, limiting research activities, KOPRI officials said. KOPRI plans to designate a candidate site by October this year, the officials said. The most suitable site for the planned station would be where an icebreaker can have an easy access. If there is a long distance between a station and an icebreaker, we would have to use alternative transport such as a helicopter to move equipment from the vessel to the station, said Jin Dong-min, head of the policy research team at KOPRI. KOPRI has also commissioned the building of an icebreaker, which is expected to cost 100 billion won ($110 million). Late last year, we appointed Hanjin Heavy Industries Construction to build an icebreaker. Steel-cutting (which signals the start of construction) will begin in the first quarter of this year, Jin said. However, Korea's plan for a second station still faces many challenges. Whether it should be built on the western or eastern side of the Antarctic has not been agreed among local scientists. We will look into the possibilities of the west side of the continent as well next year, said Jin. The construction of a station in Antarctica needs agreement among all member countries of the Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research. Korea is the 33rd signatory of the Antarctic Treaty, which designates Antarctica as a natural reserve. KOPRI undertakes research as part of the Korean government's Antarctic Research Program. On Sunday, KOPRI's first meteorite expedition team found five meteorites in the Antarctic, marking the nation's first discovery of meteorites on the continent. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Communications Resume With Stardust Spacecraft
http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/news/status/070205.html Stardust Mission Status Report Allan Cheuvront, Stardust Flight Director February 5, 2007 It has been nearly a year since Stardust successfully released the capsule that returned the Wild 2 dust particles to earth and sent its last signal before being placed in a hibernation state. That situation changed when the Spacecraft Team (SCT) recently radiated commands to have STARDUST resume communications in order to determine the spacecraft's health for a follow-on mission to the comet Tempel 1. As usual, the reliable spacecraft responded to our commands and the signal was received at the expected time. There was concern that a large solar flare last December could have placed the spacecraft in an unknown state. The first telemetry indicated a processor reboot had occurred but the spacecraft's subsystems were in excellent condition. After restoring communication, the remainder of the Deep Space Network (DSN) pass was used to obtain the history data for the last year. After saying bon voyage on January 29, 2006, the spacecraft passed through its perihelion (0.92 AU), the closest approach to the sun for the spacecraft, and made it safely through. On July 10, 2006, a spontaneous reboot of the processor occurred. The cause of the reboot is unknown but was probably due to solar/space interference. The spacecraft returned itself to its safe mode state and continued The spacecraft returned itself to its safe mode state and continued cruising. On December 7, 2006, another large solar flare created problems for the Star Camera. After struggling for several hours to obtain good star images, an attitude control error caused the spacecraft to re-enter safe mode. Once again the spacecraft returned to its nominal safe mode state where it remained until contacted last Monday. Our second DSN pass was used to clear the reboot counters, exit safe mode and ready the spacecraft for the instrument checkout scheduled. We will check out the health of the instrument suite including, Dust Flux Monitor (DFM), Cometary Interstellar Dust Analyzer (CIDA) and Navigation Camera (NAVCAM). The playback of the science instruments will take the remaining DSN passes through early February. After all the recorded data has been received on the ground we will again command the spacecraft into its safe mode or hibernation state. The spacecraft will remain in hibernation until the final decision is made concerning the Stardust-NExT follow-on mission. The Stardust-NExT (New Exploration of Tempel) mission would encounter the comet Tempel 1 in 2011 and image the crater made by the Deep Impact mission. The program is currently developing a Concept Study Report that provides additional information about the proposed follow-on mission. The final decision is expected in the May/June timeframe. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] My First Holbrook- WOW!
Hello List, A quick note to tell you all that Maria Haas, Dave Andrews and myself hunted today and at about 11:30 am I found my first Holbrook. I'm more than pleased to tell you all that it weighs about a kilo and a half! Probably the biggest one to come out of there in quite a few years. Dave found a nice puzzle and Maria found a small one as well. I won't be able to send pictures for a while or respond to emails until I get home on the 12th. Yahoo!!! Larry Atkins Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] My First Holbrook- WOW!
Congrats Larry!! You certainly have great hunting instincts. Sorry I couldn't join you guys... Maybe next year I can plan better. It was a great pleasure meeting you at the show. Thanks for the hunting tips and thanks also for you and Maria checking out that site with me. I learned a great deal. Happy hunting the next few days - I know this isn't the last special report to come from Team Michigan the next few days!! Good luck Dave (Go Team AZ)!! Signed: AmaZed in AZ -- Mark Bowling Vail, AZ I.M.C.A. #6645 o(:-) P.S. - know where I can sell some bullets?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 8:31 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] My First Holbrook- WOW! Hello List, A quick note to tell you all that Maria Haas, Dave Andrews and myself hunted today and at about 11:30 am I found my first Holbrook. I'm more than pleased to tell you all that it weighs about a kilo and a half! Probably the biggest one to come out of there in quite a few years. Dave found a nice puzzle and Maria found a small one as well. I won't be able to send pictures for a while or respond to emails until I get home on the 12th. Yahoo!!! Larry Atkins Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] My First Holbrook- WOW!
Great Job! I'm very impressed. Ruben Garcia Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] My First Holbrook- WOW!
I don't show this going throughtest -Original Message- From: Mark Bowling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 8:57 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 'meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com' Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] My First Holbrook- WOW! Congrats Larry!! You certainly have great hunting instincts. Sorry I couldn't join you guys... Maybe next year I can plan better. It was a great pleasure meeting you at the show. Thanks for the hunting tips and thanks also for you and Maria checking out that site with me. I learned a great deal. Happy hunting the next few days - I know this isn't the last special report to come from Team Michigan the next few days!! Good luck Dave (Go Team AZ)!! Signed: AmaZed in AZ -- Mark Bowling Vail, AZ I.M.C.A. #6645 o(:-) P.S. - know where I can sell some bullets?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 8:31 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] My First Holbrook- WOW! Hello List, A quick note to tell you all that Maria Haas, Dave Andrews and myself hunted today and at about 11:30 am I found my first Holbrook. I'm more than pleased to tell you all that it weighs about a kilo and a half! Probably the biggest one to come out of there in quite a few years. Dave found a nice puzzle and Maria found a small one as well. I won't be able to send pictures for a while or respond to emails until I get home on the 12th. Yahoo!!! Larry Atkins Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Walter Branch
Thanks for your e-mail Sabrina, Just came back from Tucson tonight and I was terribly saddened to read this e-mail. I have e-mailed back and forth with Walter many times over the last 6 years or so and have always considered him a good friend and I think you would find it hard to find anyone in the meteorite community that felt ill towards the good doctor. Hoping the best for Walter and Rebekah and sending positive energy your way. I am sending a small package your way. If you would prefer I send it to the hospital, please e-mail the address/room number to me privately. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT Astro-naughty
Not a great mug shot. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,250415,00.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson 2007, Harvey Award
Hello Everyone, Just made it back from Tucson tonight, with a brief stop at Roswell, New Mexico on the way and the Grand Canyon afterwards. I was greatly humbled with a Harvey Award this year for my website and work with the Kansas Meteorite Society and I would like to express my thanks to Steve Arnold and Geoff Notkin for their kind words and the honor. While I feel outclassed by many of fellow award winners, I hope to live up to the honor bestowed upon me. I would also like to thank Steve, Geoff and Phil for their work in the field and media in Kansas the last 18 months, much of which the meteorite community does not know about. I do believe that it has helped opened doors for the Kansas Meteorite Society, which is reflected in a very busy schedule for us the next four months. Keep up the steller work guys, it is appreciated. I would also like to thank my good friend and fellow Kansas Meteorite Society co-founder Jerry Calvert. It took a few efforts to get the KMS rolling and I could not have done it without you. The award will get a place of honor in one of my cabinets and I dedicate it you. Thanks for being you. I have over 2000 e-mails to sort through, so if you are one of them, as many of you are, please give me a few days and I will get them knocked out as soon as possible. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] (no subject)
I have some contacts in Turkey, I seen if I take some pieces, I have been contact a my friend Matteo --- Bjorn Sorheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: List. Hey, what's the matter with YOU Lot! There is A NEW FALL in Turkey is there NOT?! Why no dicussion frenzy? Why are you not SCRAMBLING to go there?! I'm shure MIKE is?! Looking at the pictures in the article, I can definitly say is a stony meteorite, no doubt about it I would say... (The only doubt is how much carbon it contains - haha!) Any more information about this fall? Links? I'm shure there must be more stones on the ground... Personally I heard a bang from above at 15:25 in the afternoon on that very day here in Norway(?). I even wrote it down in my notebook to check it later. Forgot about it untill today! Other norwegians have noted strong meteors going north to south about this time it now seems... Regards, Bjørn Sørheim ( I sent the above first to the list saturday evening (MET), but try it again, sunday afternoon) From: Mike Groetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2007-02-03 03:41:09 CET To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite lands in Didim http://epost.telenor.no/mobileoffice//mobileoffice/?cmd=mailsub=redirecturl=http://www.voicesnewspaper.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=477http://www.voicesnewspaper.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=477 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Vinci i biglietti per FIFA World Cup in Germania! yahoo.it/concorso_messenger __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteowrong anecdotes?
Hi Rob! Well I'm a ham radio operator and one night a few years ago I had a conversation with a guy on a UFO net who swears HE had a meteorite and actually seen it come down. I asked him to tell his story. He said he saw it come down ON FIRE, it threw sparks all the way down to the ground next to him and it was red hot and smoking! WOW He had a photo of it on a web site and it was obviously NOT a meteorite of coarse. I just checked and the photo is gone now. I tried to explain to him there was no way it was on fire and sparking but he got fairly upset with me for not believing him. Either he was full of it or someone was playing with him! Regards! Tom On Feb 3, 2007, at 11:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering, have any of you been approached with any really absurd meteowrongs? Just one or two! Here's my all time favourite meteowrong email.. On Mar 5 1989 at 705 pm, I was tooling north on HWY 71 in Loisiana when i felt and heard a sharp snap that sounded like a bullet hitting. I got out of the car and looked for bullet holes but didn't see any. I continued, on the return i noticed one of my headlights was out. (It turned dark) In the am i began replacing the headlight when i found the hole i had missed the last night but the angle didn't look right. i stuck a 1/2 dowel in the hole and figured it had entered at about 5 degrees east and 10 degrees north. I removed the headlight and found this little critter inside. The object had pierced the headlight, bounced off the frame of the car and ended up inside the headlight. I immediately suspected islamic terrorists, of course. (i was way ahead of the curve on this, i spent time in the middle east) being forced to abandon this theory (it required a muslem shooting a rock gun from a heilocopter) i concluded that it was a meteorite. had i been in a little more of a hurry it would have entered at my clavicle and exited at my ...well never mind. the picture is poor, it feels like it's made of metal and has little pits in it. it's about 5/8. i was hoping someone could tell me what it is. i keep it to remind me of the fickle finger of fate. i found (on the web) some nickle iron ones that look like it, course i found some nickle iron ones that didn't. Can anyone beat that?? Rob Elliott - In just two days, tomorrow will be yesterday. http://home.hvc.rr.com/kb2sms/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Turkey
Hi Folks! If Im not wrong, its absolutely prohibited to export rocks from Turkey: There was a lot of trouble with tourists, who tried to bring pebbles from the beach out of the country and become arrested. This strict law was created initial to preserve cultural objects! In fact: As tourist, you can buy: ancient coins, glasses or something else at nearly every bazaar, but youre not allowed export them. So what will be with METEORITES .? BEST WISHES Ingo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Bjorn Sorheim Gesendet: Sonntag, 4. Februar 2007 16:27 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [meteorite-list] (no subject) List. Hey, what's the matter with YOU Lot! There is A NEW FALL in Turkey is there NOT?! Why no dicussion frenzy? Why are you not SCRAMBLING to go there?! I'm shure MIKE is?! Looking at the pictures in the article, I can definitly say is a stony meteorite, no doubt about it I would say... (The only doubt is how much carbon it contains - haha!) Any more information about this fall? Links? I'm shure there must be more stones on the ground... Personally I heard a bang from above at 15:25 in the afternoon on that very day here in Norway(?). I even wrote it down in my notebook to check it later. Forgot about it untill today! Other norwegians have noted strong meteors going north to south about this time it now seems... Regards, Bjørn Sørheim ( I sent the above first to the list saturday evening (MET), but try it again, sunday afternoon) From: Mike Groetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2007-02-03 03:41:09 CET To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite lands in Didim http://www.voicesnewspaper.com/modules.php?name=News http://epost.telenor.no/mobileoffice/mobileoffice/?cmd=mailsub=redirec turl=http://www.voicesnewspaper.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=article; sid=477 file=articlesid=477 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Australites/Philippinites - grooving - any info?
Hi list I wondered if there is anyone on the list who has collected a lot of australites and knows about the grooving on these tektites. What does it look like? Is it generally on the anterior side? Is it associated with particular shapes and not others? I am really interested to understand how australite morphologies fit in with the classic lenticular and breadcrust philippinites, which have grooving on only one side. I was also fascinated by the recent emails on stretch tektites. The more I look at philippinites, the more I think the U grooves are an original feature as oppose to chemical weathering. The U grooves occur on only one side and, when better developed, have a polygonal structure. I know this is usually explained as being the anterior side with flakes coming off due to thermal expansion/contraction, but I still wonder if that is the case. I wonder if these cracks developed (?perhaps as the tektite cooled) but the interior remained plastic. When this interior became solid, the solid would take up less space than the liquid. So, when it cooled totally did it 'suck' in at the grooves. I saw a similar thing when playing with solid and liquid wax. Are the grooves on one side then lost due to ablation, thus making the smooth side the anterior? Are these grooves in anyway similar to the starburst ray skin-splits featured on 'The Tektite Source' webpage? I understand this idea creates more problems, such as why do tektites from Vietnam area not show polygonal cracks like philippinites. I'm sure there is still much to be learnt, but if anyone knows answers I'm keen to learn. Thanks, Aubrey - The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New FALL in Turkey
I have seen many objects arrive here from Turkey, they pass from other near country's and after go in the all world. For not speack I have many friends in Armenia where they come here in Italy every 4-5 months and give to me many minerals from this zones Matteo --- Alexander Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: This is correct. You better not carry a nice sea shell, let alone some good replica of something looking antique (...let alone a meteorite!!!) in your baggage when leaving Turkey. They are tough-minded on this, and your are risking draconic fines. I met with a collector friend in Turkey last year, on the occasion of the total solar eclipse. We both agreed to better not carry any of our own meteorites with us for some showing and trading, as we sometimes do, when we meet. Too high a risk! Alex Berlin/Germany One reason would be that Turkey might in fact be the most dangerous country in the world to remove a meteorite from. Turkey has extreme laws about removal of ANYTHING! People I know say that at the airports there are warnings about removing even a pebble or sea shell. Jail sentances are handed down for people caught at the airport removing pieces of cultural treasures and I think that they might not like their newest meteorite fall leaving the country in a carry-on. I am going to pass on this one! Michael farmer --- Fred Caillou Noir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Bjorn and List, I agree with Bjorn, watching the pictures on the article there is no doubt that this is a stony meteorite and I would even risk a speculation that with the fair grey chips it looks like another LL6... OK, I know, one should wait until it is analysed of course! ;o)) Good luck to hunters who will make the trip to Turkey! Best wishes, Fred Lyon, France - Original Message - From: Bjorn Sorheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 9:42 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] New FALL in Turkey List. Hey, what's the matter with YOU Lot! There is A NEW FALL in Turkey is there NOT?! Why no dicussion frenzy? Why are you not SCRAMBLING to go there?! I'm shure MIKE is?! Looking at the pictures in the article, I can definitly say is a stony meteorite, no doubt about it I would say... (The only doubt is how much carbon it contains - haha!) Any more information about this fall? Links? I'm shure there must be more stones on the ground... Personally I heard a bang from above at 15:25 in the afternoon on that very day here in Norway(?). I even wrote it down in my notebook to check it later. Forgot about it untill today! Other norwegians have noted strong meteors going north to south about this time it now seems... Regards, Bjørn Sørheim From: Mike Groetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2007-02-03 03:41:09 CET To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite lands in Didim http://www.voicesnewspaper.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=477 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Vinci i biglietti per FIFA World Cup in Germania! yahoo.it/concorso_messenger __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] This person start to broken
and many. This idiot its under spam the all emailbox matteo --- meteorites whole sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Matteo, He said, leave him in peace,and he will do the same,then both of you will be happy. It's very easy to stop talking about the others,so why don't you take that way? Thanks Hope u stop knoking Moroccans reputation,OR i come myself bring up 10emails a day about you.then you'll get no evena gram of NWA meteorites,i mean what i'm saying,so do the right thing. - No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Vinci i biglietti per FIFA World Cup in Germania! yahoo.it/concorso_messenger __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New FALL in Turkey
Thanks to Farmer, Seidel, Herkstroker, Fred and Matteo for the feedback on this. I had no idea about the laws on this in Turkey. Kichinka, in his book, make no mention of Turkey laws, but mention several other countries. Would Greece be similar to Turkey? I guess you are sure about the fact that meteorites fall in the categery of cultural treasures? Personally I can somewhat confirm (or not?) such matters from Turkey, as I also was there during the eclipse last sping, see: http://home.online.no/~bsoerhei/astro/eclipse/060329/Phaselis.html Meteorites was not on my mind during the stay, but my interest in stones and geology made me pick up about one kg of typical pebbles and small stones at the southernmost beach, where the eclipse path crossed into Turkey from the south. I had a fully packed rucksack with my eclipse equipment and everything at the airport. As I had brought about 14.5 kg to Turkey the added stones brought the weight over 15 kg, so overweight. I don't know if that was the reason, but I was ordered to leave the sack at another counter than the rest. I didn't see it before arriving to Norway, so they must have checked it especially. Anyway, all the stones were there still, and it didn't look like they had gone through the sack either. I don't know what the conclusion would be here, but at least they don't seem to be going after ordinary stones. Bjørn Sørheim From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2007-02-05 15:46:19 CET To: Fred Caillou Noir [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bjorn Sorheim [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New FALL in Turkey One reason would be that Turkey might in fact be the most dangerous country in the world to remove a meteorite from. Turkey has extreme laws about removal of ANYTHING! People I know say that at the airports there are warnings about removing even a pebble or sea shell. Jail sentances are handed down for people caught at the airport removing pieces of cultural treasures and I think that they might not like their newest meteorite fall leaving the country in a carry-on. I am going to pass on this one! Michael farmer --- Fred Caillou Noir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Bjorn and List, I agree with Bjorn, watching the pictures on the article there is no doubt that this is a stony meteorite and I would even risk a speculation that with the fair grey chips it looks like another LL6... OK, I know, one should wait until it is analysed of course! ;o)) Good luck to hunters who will make the trip to Turkey! Best wishes, Fred Lyon, France - Original Message - From: Bjorn Sorheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 9:42 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] New FALL in Turkey List. Hey, what's the matter with YOU Lot! There is A NEW FALL in Turkey is there NOT?! Why no dicussion frenzy? Why are you not SCRAMBLING to go there?! I'm shure MIKE is?! Looking at the pictures in the article, I can definitly say is a stony meteorite, no doubt about it I would say... (The only doubt is how much carbon it contains - haha!) Any more information about this fall? Links? I'm shure there must be more stones on the ground... Personally I heard a bang from above at 15:25 in the afternoon on that very day here in Norway(?). I even wrote it down in my notebook to check it later. Forgot about it untill today! Other norwegians have noted strong meteors going north to south about this time it now seems... Regards, Bjørn Sørheim From: Mike Groetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2007-02-03 03:41:09 CET To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite lands in Didim http://www.voicesnewspaper.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=477 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Orange snow in Siberia connected to fall in Turkey / Norway observations?
List, Taking into account that the Turkey fall happened in the afternoon of the 31st of January (like the norwegian observations) and that the recent orange snowfall in Siberia was about the same time, is it not quite possible that these events are connected? The russians using elaborate chemical analysis have had some problems explaining the fallout with the snow on last Wedensday in the Omsk, Tomsk, Tuymen area. The same stuff seems also to be reported from northern parts of Kazakstan. The colours are described as orange, yellow, red and green. It was partly described as being oily with a rotten smell. The laboratory analysis have found that the fallout was seemingly sand and clay particles but which contained 4 times more iron than normal, it was also acidic and contained nitrates. It was first suggested that it was industrial pollusion, but the later version is that it is sand/clay blown up from the arid flats ot the once Aral Sea. Also suggested as coming from arid parts of Pakistan. The various sources cites somewhat different times at which it first occured - 'in the afternoon, towards the evening', one source saying 13:15 msk time, another 'in the morning of Wedensday'. I make no conclusion here, but a rotten (sulphuric smell) is not unknown in the meteoritic litterature. Nitrates are produced in quantities by meteor explosions. Also, do not forget Tunguska! Some sources: http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=11212796PageNum=0 http://www.guardian.co.uk/russia/article/0,,2004868,00.html?gusrc=ticker-103704 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6323611.stm http://englishrussia.com/?p=637 http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=11220826PageNum=0 Bjørn Sørheim __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Patterns in Meteorwrong
Hello All, Regarding Widmanstatten patterns in meteorites and terrestrial iron... The typical problem that most run into is with cosmically (or possibly terrestrially) reheated/recrystallized irons that oftentimes share an uncanny resemblance in structure to terrestrially manufactured metal. In many cases, especially with some of the smaller NWA and Antarctican irons (which tend to have odd physical characteristics and chemical traits), the irons will exhibit only the faintest pattern, or sometimes simply a fine-grained sparkly-looking etched surface. This is macroscopically indistinguishable from the crystal patterns that commonly form in metal that has been put through common manufacturing practices, as it cools slowly enough to form a small crystal pattern that makes up a remarkably similar physical appearance. So, do terrestrial pieces of iron exhibit Widmanstatten patterns? No, not really, but they can display something that's not too far off Regards, Jason On 2/4/07, Steve Dunklee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have found what looks similar to widmanstatten pattern in metal parts especially rail car parts that have received years of pounding under the pressures involved with towing cars weighing around 263k lbs with a string of 30 or more cars I imagine there is a lot of force involved. Most of the ones I have observed are parallel lines radiating from the impact point. I will have to check back thru my junk pile to see if I can find any . I am sure there are probably some metalurgist around here that can direct you to more information on stress fractures in metal. Best regards Steve -- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49936/*http://videogames.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New FALL in Turkey
After all, they are more civilized than I thought... - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fred Caillou Noir [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bjorn Sorheim [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New FALL in Turkey One reason would be that Turkey might in fact be the most dangerous country in the world to remove a meteorite from. Turkey has extreme laws about removal of ANYTHING! People I know say that at the airports there are warnings about removing even a pebble or sea shell. Jail sentances are handed down for people caught at the airport removing pieces of cultural treasures and I think that they might not like their newest meteorite fall leaving the country in a carry-on. I am going to pass on this one! Michael farmer --- Fred Caillou Noir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Bjorn and List, I agree with Bjorn, watching the pictures on the article there is no doubt that this is a stony meteorite and I would even risk a speculation that with the fair grey chips it looks like another LL6... OK, I know, one should wait until it is analysed of course! ;o)) Good luck to hunters who will make the trip to Turkey! Best wishes, Fred Lyon, France - Original Message - From: Bjorn Sorheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 9:42 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] New FALL in Turkey List. Hey, what's the matter with YOU Lot! There is A NEW FALL in Turkey is there NOT?! Why no dicussion frenzy? Why are you not SCRAMBLING to go there?! I'm shure MIKE is?! Looking at the pictures in the article, I can definitly say is a stony meteorite, no doubt about it I would say... (The only doubt is how much carbon it contains - haha!) Any more information about this fall? Links? I'm shure there must be more stones on the ground... Personally I heard a bang from above at 15:25 in the afternoon on that very day here in Norway(?). I even wrote it down in my notebook to check it later. Forgot about it untill today! Other norwegians have noted strong meteors going north to south about this time it now seems... Regards, Bjørn Sørheim From: Mike Groetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2007-02-03 03:41:09 CET To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite lands in Didim http://www.voicesnewspaper.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=477 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Dealer/Collectors
Hi Bill, I for one appreciate your candid take on this situation. This lends a whole new meaning to you pay your money and you take your chances... Pat --- Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Hmmm. I remember this guy. I politely told him that I require shipment in advance and that we could discuss price after I saw the merchandise in person. I offered to pay half the cost of shipping if we couldn't agree on a value and the stuff had to be returned. He assured me that he was a very honest fellow and I assured him that I was of equal veracity. He said, You send money, I send meteorites. I said no dice. Nothing exchanged hands. I guess if you don't mindlessly cut this guy a check, you get put on his S-List. He does a great disservice to his rational countrymen. I hope someone over there kicks him square in the hind end. Bill = :P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 19:33:17 -0800 (PST) To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Dealer/Collectors This is a list of Morocco's meteorites Robbers; Greg Hupe=1st Class =VD Mike Farmer/Jim Strope =VD Rob Elliott/=VD Matteo Chinellato/very slim like he doesn't eat food.= 0Value,0 pernonality Mark Bosttik= VD Kenneth Regelman= VD Bob Evans= VD Steve Arnolds/Ilinois=VD Rob Wesel/Oregon =D Roman Jerasek.CA=D Bill,Ilinois =VD Christian Anger =H Mario Goiorani =D Marcin Cimala = Value = Big 0. Steve witt =VD Matt Morgan=VD Bruno Fectay Carine Bidaut/ VD NOT Robbers List.But Honorable guyes I respect Germans,the top class N,Classen. Carsten Giessler Stefan Ralew Andreas Gren I respect Americans, Stan turecki Jason Philips Jack Schrader Thomas H Webb Nelson Oakes Dean Bessey/CA/NZ David Bryant/UK V=very D=dongerous H= Hypocrite More informations soon. - Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Perfect Oriented Iron - on display at Days Innroom108
Hello Tim and list, That is the best oriented iron I have ever seen. Please take the time to show the list more photographs of it. Nice seeing you and Patricia again. (Hope I remembered your wife's name correctly...if not, please allow me to use the excuse of 36 hours without sleep.) Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] My First Holbrook- WOW!
Hi Larry and list members, next year - I am going! I am planning on taking off a week so I have time to go searching as well hopefully with you and Maria, maybe David Freeman will come along also. This is a big meteorite! Congratulations It was wonderful to have met you at the auction. Tell Maria and Dave Andrews congratulations also. We should go as a big group next year, that would be super! With best regards, Moni From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] My First Holbrook- WOW! Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 22:30:42 -0500 Hello List, A quick note to tell you all that Maria Haas, Dave Andrews and myself hunted today and at about 11:30 am I found my first Holbrook. I'm more than pleased to tell you all that it weighs about a kilo and a half! Probably the biggest one to come out of there in quite a few years. Dave found a nice puzzle and Maria found a small one as well. I won't be able to send pictures for a while or respond to emails until I get home on the 12th. Yahoo!!! Larry Atkins Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Laugh, share and connect with Windows Live Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme002001msn/direct/01/?href=http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=hmtagline __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
