[meteorite-list] major trade offers

2007-02-28 Thread emeraldisleminerals
Thanks Ruben,that made me laugh out loud


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[meteorite-list] updates and clarifications on trade

2007-02-28 Thread steve arnold
Hi list.It seems some people have the wrong notions
which I am asking in trades.Nothing on my main
collection page is forsale or trade.It is on my
primary collection.Where the pics are.The only things
that will not be traded,like I said,are a few
items.They are,NWA 1766,TITOLAR, and EL
AROUSS.Everthing else on there is for trade for GAO
Individuals.And please refrain form making fun of my
typing practices.I know it is not always the best.None
of you are perfect.You can view under
CHICAGOMETEORITES.NET.Thanks for looking and pleae get
me to me off-list.





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Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!!
  Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!!
  www.chicagometeorites.net
  Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites



 

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Re: [meteorite-list] updates and clarifications on trade

2007-02-28 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Steve,

your collection has such a quick throughput and speed-of-light-fluctuation,
wouldn't it be more suitable just to buy a season ticket of the Field
museum?
It has the 7th largest meteorite collection.
Here you can download their catalogue:
http://www.fieldmuseum.org/research_Collections/geology/meteor_col.pdf

Would be easier for your wallet, the nerves of your wife (and, I guess, some
list members too).

Martin

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von steve
arnold
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007 12:25
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: [meteorite-list] updates and clarifications on trade

Hi list.It seems some people have the wrong notions
which I am asking in trades.Nothing on my main
collection page is forsale or trade.It is on my
primary collection.Where the pics are.The only things
that will not be traded,like I said,are a few
items.They are,NWA 1766,TITOLAR, and EL
AROUSS.Everthing else on there is for trade for GAO
Individuals.And please refrain form making fun of my
typing practices.I know it is not always the best.None
of you are perfect.You can view under
CHICAGOMETEORITES.NET.Thanks for looking and pleae get
me to me off-list.





steve arnold,chicago

Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!!
  Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!!
  www.chicagometeorites.net
  Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites



 


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Re: [meteorite-list] updates and clarifications on trade

2007-02-28 Thread Carl Saconn
Martin,

  Nice try but the Field only has one slice of Gao. That's not enough for a 
Gao addiction!


- Original Message - 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] updates and clarifications on trade


Hi Steve,

your collection has such a quick throughput and speed-of-light-fluctuation,
wouldn't it be more suitable just to buy a season ticket of the Field
museum?
It has the 7th largest meteorite collection.
Here you can download their catalogue:
http://www.fieldmuseum.org/research_Collections/geology/meteor_col.pdf

Would be easier for your wallet, the nerves of your wife (and, I guess, some
list members too).

Martin

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von steve
arnold
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007 12:25
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: [meteorite-list] updates and clarifications on trade

Hi list.It seems some people have the wrong notions
which I am asking in trades.Nothing on my main
collection page is forsale or trade.It is on my
primary collection.Where the pics are.The only things
that will not be traded,like I said,are a few
items.They are,NWA 1766,TITOLAR, and EL
AROUSS.Everthing else on there is for trade for GAO
Individuals.And please refrain form making fun of my
typing practices.I know it is not always the best.None
of you are perfect.You can view under
CHICAGOMETEORITES.NET.Thanks for looking and pleae get
me to me off-list.





steve arnold,chicago

Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!!
  Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!!
  www.chicagometeorites.net
  Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites






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[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 28, 2007

2007-02-28 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
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[meteorite-list] AD: 25 kilo meteorite lot on eBay

2007-02-28 Thread Jason Phillips
Hello List,
I have a 25 kilogram lot of unclassified meteorites, unsearched and 
hopefully with a few surprises getting ready to close Thursday evening 
on eBay (Item # 260090103171) for $.01 with no reserve and cheap 
shipping.  If you have any questions about these meteorites please feel 
free to contact me.

Here is the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:11item=260090103171
 



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[meteorite-list] New Horizons Images of Jupiter and Its Moons

2007-02-28 Thread Ron Baalke

http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/gallery/missionPhotos/pages/022807_1.html

[Ganymede Image]

This is New Horizons' best image of Ganymede, Jupiter's largest moon, 
taken with the spacecraft's Long Range Reconnaissance Imager (LORRI) 
camera at 10:01 Universal Time on February 27 from a range of 3.5 
million kilometers (2.2 million miles). The longitude of the disk 
center is 38 degrees West and the image scale is 17 kilometers 
(11 miles) per pixel. Dark patches of ancient terrain are broken 
up by swaths of brighter, younger material, and the entire icy 
surface is peppered by more recent impact craters that have 
splashed fresh, bright ice across the surface.

With a diameter of 5,268 kilometers (3.273 miles), Ganymede is 
the largest satellite in the solar system.

This is one of a handful of Jupiter system images already returned 
by New Horizons during its close approach to Jupiter. Most of 
the data being gathered by the spacecraft are stored onboard and 
will be downlinked to Earth during March and April 2007.

Credit: NASA/Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory/
Southwest Research Institute 

---

http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/gallery/missionPhotos/pages/022807_2.html

[Europa Image]

This image of Jupiter's icy moon Europa, the first Europa image 
returned by New Horizons, was taken with the spacecraft's Long 
Range Reconnaissance Imager (LORRI) camera at 07:19 Universal 
Time on February 27, from a range of 3.1 million kilometers (1.9 
million miles). The longitude of the disk center is 307 degrees 
West and the image scale is 15 kilometers (9 miles) per pixel. 
This is one of a series of images designed to look for landforms 
near Europa's terminator - the line dividing day and night - 
where low Sun angles highlight subtle topographic features.

Europa's fractured icy surface is thought to overlie an ocean 
about 100 kilometers (60 miles) below the surface, and the New 
Horizons team will be analyzing these images for clues about 
the nature of the icy crust and the forces that have deformed it. 
Europa is about the size of Earth's moon, with a diameter of 
3,130 kilometers (1.945 miles).

This is one of a handful of images of the Jupiter system already 
returned by New Horizons during its close approach to Jupiter. 
Most of the data being gathered by the spacecraft are stored 
onboard and will be downlinked to Earth during March and April 2007.

Credit: NASA/Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory/
Southwest Research Institute 

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[Image]

The Little Red Spot: Closest View Yet

This is a mosaic of three New Horizons images of Jupiter's Little 
Red Spot, taken with the spacecraft's Long Range Reconnaissance 
Imager (LORRI) camera at 17:41 Universal Time on February 26 
from a range of 3.5 million kilometers (2.1 million miles). The 
image scale is 17 kilometers (11 miles) per pixel, and the area 
covered measures 33,000 kilometers (20,000 miles) from top to 
bottom, two and one-half times the diameter of Earth.

The Little Red Spot, a smaller cousin of the famous Great Red 
Spot, formed in the past decade from the merger of three 
smaller Jovian storms, and is now the second-largest storm on 
Jupiter. About a year ago its color, formerly white, changed 
to a reddish shade similar to the Great Red Spot, perhaps 
because it is now powerful enough to dredge up reddish material 
from deeper inside Jupiter. These are the most detailed images 
ever taken of the Little Red Spot since its formation, and will 
be combined with even sharper images taken by New Horizons 10 
hours later to map circulation patterns around and within the 
storm.

LORRI took the images as the Sun was about to set on the Little 
Red Spot. The LORRI camera was designed to look at Pluto, where 
sunlight is much fainter than it is at Jupiter, so the images 
would have been overexposed if LORRI had looked at the storm 
when it was illuminated by the noonday Sun. The dim evening 
illumination helped the LORRI camera obtain well-exposed 
images. The New Horizons team used predictions made by 
amateur astronomers in 2006, based on their observations of 
the motion of the Little Red Spot with backyard telescopes, 
to help them accurately point LORRI at the storm.

These are among a handful of Jupiter system images already 
returned by New Horizons during its close approach to Jupiter. 
Most of the data being gathered by the spacecraft are stored 
onboard and will be downlinked to Earth during March and April 
2007.

Credit: NASA/Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory/
Southwest Research Institute 

---

http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/gallery/missionPhotos/pages/022707_1.html

[Images]

An Eruption on Io

The first images returned to Earth by New Horizons during its 
close encounter with Jupiter feature the Galilean moon Io, 

[meteorite-list] Dramatic regmaglypted 1.3 kg Sikhote Alin individual - AD

2007-02-28 Thread info
Dear aficionados of the extraordinary,

after six years looking for an appropriate Sikhote upgrade for our collection 
we finally succeeded to acquire an exquisite 3.7kg individual. Every rose has 
its thorn which is in this case that we will have to part with one of our 
centerpieces to refinance the deal - at least partly.

Up for sale is a 1.345 kg Sikhote Alin individual with the most distinct 
regmaglypts, pristine dull black wuestite-magnetite oxide fusion crust and a 
stunning array of flow lines all over the specimen. The meteorite was chosen to 
illustrate the article on meteorites in the German Wikipedia and has been 
published on numerous websites covering the subject.

As we truly prefer the meteorite to stay within “the family” we take the chance 
to offer it here on the list first, although this dramatic specimen might fetch 
a considerably higher price on ebay.

Any offer approaching 1600 USD will be considered, the first offer above this 
amount will be accepted. Insured airmail shipping to the US is included.

Please ask for a photographic walk around the meteorite off list if interest. 
We will gladly provide photos and description.

Thank you for your time and your interest

Kind regards

Svend Buhl

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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA Martian and Lunar

2007-02-28 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
who have buy have only to hope is not a ordinary
eucrite...a moroccan have propose me a lunar, I have
say yes, is possible buy, but only after a analysis,
sure I not give you $30,000 without any
analysis...nothing, money first meteorite after..ok, I
have say bye bye, I found analyzed lunars every time I
want

Matteo


--- Alhyane Abdelaziz [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha
scritto:

 Dear Listees,
 a possible new LUNAR meteorite is now on the way to
 US, the weight is 600grams approx. Let's hope it is
 a very very rare lunar stone ever found, i
 congratulate the new owner - :)
 Aziz
 
 E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello
 all - 
 
 I finally delivered the lunar and martian cuttings
 which I purchased ftom Greg Hupe earlier this year
 to
 the recipients' mother - a very belated Christmas
 gift.  I gave them to her at a fund raising event
 for
 their father, who is in very serious condition. She
 was very pleased (Fantastic! - From Mars? You have
 to
 be kidding! and many smiles) , and I think that they
 will bring a little badly needed cheer to their
 children.
 
 My thanks to Greg once again, and I am sorry that we
 did not meet in Tuscon.
 
 good hunting, 
 Ed
 
 
 
 
  


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[meteorite-list] FW: Peruvian meteorite crater - friendly warningto hunters that may be considering...

2007-02-28 Thread Jack Schrader
Oh great!  Here we go again!!  Another freaking nut case.  This is all we
need.  I have tried to keep my mouth shut but I just cannot take this any
longer.  I can only hope this nut bar will run out of money chasing this pot
of gold at the end of the rainbow and wind up in a poor house where he
belongs.  I just hope it is a poorhouse without internet access so he cannot
torment the list any longer.  I am about to puke from these insane and inane
posts to the list.  This person is obviously very intelligent but
unfortunately very psychotic and deluded at the same time.  Psychosis and
high intelligence are common bedfellows.  All he has is a bunch of worthless
volcanic basalt.  A third grade kid can see the difference but he will not
listen to the highly educated people on this list who have spent their lives
studying meteoritics.  Some people see this as entertainment, it makes me
sick.  This person is a delusional paranoid psychotic and should be left
alone and hopefully, hopefully he will go away.  Venus meteorites!  Give me
a Big Fat Break!!  Where do these people come from???  Is any one else as
sick and tired as I am about hearing about these ridiculous Venus meteorites
and the veiled and not so veiled threats of a lunatic?  This is a list
devoted to the study of meteorites and not a circus side show.  This guy
belongs in a Ringling Brothers Barnum and Bailey sideshow tent and not on
this list.  Good Grief.  I for one have had enough.  

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randall
Gregory
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: meteorite List
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Peruvian meteorite crater - friendly warningto
hunters that may be considering...

 

Gary,

 

I was told that hunters would turn the place up-side down. You know some
people would, without respect for anything. Do I have to remind you?

http://www.azstarnet.com/gemshow01/0202.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1324361.stm

http://www.rockhounds.com/tucsonshow/reports/tucson96/snapsh12.shtm

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb3418/is_199708/ai_n8179903

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/vol277/issue5328/r-samples.dtl

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/vol277/issue5328/r-samples.dtl

http://www.umich.edu/~urecord/9899/Oct21_98/16.htm

http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=48724

http://www.meteorite.com/missing_stolen.html

 

 

Gem show briefs

Dealer robbed 2nd year in row 

Five gemstones worth as much as $130,000 were reported stolen from a dealer
at a gem show at the Best Western Executive Inn, 333 W. Drachman St. 

Owner Alijohn Nourestani was having breakfast on Sunday within view of his
display of tourmaline gemstones when five pieces were stolen, he said
yesterday 

The showcase for his business, Nourestan Gems  Minerals - The Miners of
Fine Tourmaline, was draped with a sheet when the theft took place, police
were told. 

Nourestani, who has homes in Afghanistan and New Mexico, said yesterday that
at the same show last year, he had several tourmaline gemstones stolen that
were valued at between $8,000 and $10,000. He also had friends who had goods
that were stolen, he said. 

I've been coming to the gem show in Tucson for 17 years, he said. I love
Tucson. But we'd like the city to know we have problems. There are gangsters
in Tucson. 

Police described the suspect as a 5-foot-7-inch man, about 165 pounds and
wearing a flannel shirt and black pants. 



Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think so too. A warning like this is sure to gain friends and influence
people. lol

Gary

On 22 Feb 2007 at 18:14, Dave Freeman mjwy wrote:

 
 Dear Gary;
 I kind of thought that maybe he should live a lonely life as his scare
tactic would 
 warrent that all meteorite persons would stay away from such a crabby
appleton!
 His crater and the Peruvian government may be his ONLY FRIENDS!
 df
 Gary K. Foote wrote:
 
 A rather dark post Randall.
 
 Gary
 
 On 21 Feb 2007 at 18:44, Randall Gregory wrote:
 
 
 
 
 Information is expected to be released in April on the Earth Impact
Databasethat will 
 give the exact coordinates to the Peruvian meteorite crater. I have been
warned that 
 meteorite hunters will want to turn this site upside down. If anyone
wishes to hunt at 
 this site please contact me and we can discuss. 
 
 Should anyone think about hunting without contacting me. I want you to
understand that 
 I have paperwork filing with the Peruvian government giving me mining
concession rights 
 to the crater and 100 sq. hectares surrounding the crater. It is a routine
matter and 
 approval is expected soon. Even with paperwork pending I still have legal
rights here in 
 Peru. I am serious about wanting to keep this crater in pristine condition
until 
 scientists have had the opportunity to study it in detail. 
 
 Peruvian law has very strict laws concerning trespassing, especially when
it concerns 
 mines. I will not hesitate to prosecute and trust 

Re: [meteorite-list] Peruvian meteorite crater - friendly warning tohunters

2007-02-28 Thread Matson, Robert
Bill,

Please check the original posting dates of these latest messages
before getting on your high horse.  The guy's post was rude and
he deserved every response he got.  --Rob

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: 2/25/2007 9:46 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Peruvian meteorite crater - friendly warning
tohunters

What the hell is wrong with you people, list members? Enough already.
Are you all so full of yourselves that you have to pursue a new witch
hunt on a regular basis?   I don't see this guy spamming after he was
threatened with his life by Mike. C'mon. How freaking ignorant was that?
Uncalled for Mike. No excuses for that one. If those that need a goat
are so bored as to jump this man, they need to get off their asses and
find another interest.   

Let it go. 
Bill 
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[meteorite-list] Peruvian Crater

2007-02-28 Thread Dana L. Hawn
If Randall is only open for discussion about the crater and the find after 
scientific studies have been completed what was the point of mentioning it now 
prior to the studies being completed?  What is the point of the rambling about 
the laws and filed paperwork, ect.?  What is up with throwing in the fear 
factors about what could happen to a person if they did this or that?  If 
Randall was concerned about someone horning in on his find and ransacking the 
crater why didn't he just remained tight lipped about the find like others have 
done?  Looks like loose lips can sink more than a ship.
   
  I wish all people acted like Steve Arnold when it comes to a good find!
   
  Luckily Randall will not be the last person on the face of the Earth to have 
a find and we can all happily going hunting our own merry ways.
   
  Happy Hunting to One and All,
   
  Dana L. Hawn
  Louisville,  Illinois

 
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[meteorite-list] Forwarded email from Aziz Habibi NEW LUNAR monzogabbro meteorite

2007-02-28 Thread Gi-po Meteorites

Hi List,

Aziz asked me to forward a email from him to the list,
here it is:

dear list,

here is  the first lunar monzogabbro!!, as you will read in the 
classification;  it's also the first lunar to look like a shergotite.


under microscope it's looking exactly like a shergotite from the texture..

with all modesty this is one of the most important  planetary 
meteorite.a very rare classification .


enjoy photo in this link and here is the classification done by doctor 
Albert Jambon from upvi Paris.


... yes a lunar with a Martianshergtoite texture...



go to this link and click on lunar album nwa 4683.

http://photos.yahoo.com/azizhabibi



to understand how it's classified as monzogabbro check out this link.

http://www.uwgb.edu/DutchS/PETROLGY/classification_of_igneous_rocks.htm.

enjoy photo in this link and here is the classification done by doctor 
Albert Jambon from upvi Paris.




there are other album including a new oriented Martian  and a very fresh 
lodranites.


all the best,

aziz habibi
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[meteorite-list] Forwarded email from Aziz Habibi: NEW LUNAR monzogabbro meteorite..

2007-02-28 Thread gipometeorites
Hi List,

Aziz Habibi asked me to forward a email from him to the list,
so here it is:

dear list,

here is  the first lunar monzogabbro!!, as you will read in the classification; 
 it's also the first lunar to look like a shergotite.

under microscope it's looking exactly like a shergotite from the texture..

with all modesty this is one of the most important  planetary meteorite.a very 
rare classification .

enjoy photo in this link and here is the classification done by doctor Albert 
Jambon from upvi Paris.

. yes a lunar with a Martianshergtoite texture.

 

go to this link and click on lunar album nwa 4683.

http://photos.yahoo.com/azizhabibi

 

to understand how it's classified as monzogabbro check out this link.

http://www.uwgb.edu/DutchS/PETROLGY/classification_of_igneous_rocks.htm.

enjoy photo in this link and here is the classification done by doctor Albert 
Jambon from upvi Paris.

 

there are other album including a new oriented Martian  and a very fresh 
lodranites.

all the best,

aziz habibi

 

Proposed NameNWA  4683   Geographic 
Coordinates1  undisclosed.

Erfoud Morocco

Find : october of 2006

Major classification (group) Achondrite (Lunar monzogabbro)

 

History:  two pieces bought from nomads in Erfoud (Morocco).

Physical characteristics:  One stone broken in two pieces 68 and 409g. Dull 
black fusion crust on one side, weathered on the other side. It is a gray, 
coarse grained, pristine magmatic rock consisting of millimetric phenocrysts 
mainly of pyroxene and plagioclase. 

 

Petrography:  A. Jambon, O. Boudouma and D. Badia. UPVI .

The texture is best described as shergottitic like . Pyroxene are highly 
fractured while plagioclase laths, partly transformed to maskelynite, are only 
affected by a small number of fractures. Silica and silica-feldspar glass are 
minor components. A few impact melt patches underline the similarity with 
shergottites further. Ilmenite, baddeleyite, zirconolite, tranquilityite, 
pyrrhotite and metal. Fayalite associated with silica probably results from the 
dissociation of iron rich pyroxene. Minor terrestrial alteration.

Mode  (vol %): Cpx 50, Plagioclase + Kspar 32,  silica + glass 7.5, opaques 
(ilmenite, Ti-magnetite, pyrrhotite) + fayalite 7, voids + fractures 3.

 

Geochemistry: Mineralogy by EMP and SEM.(Trace and major element analyses 
ICP-MS, J-A Barrat UBO).  

Pyroxene exhibit a complex zoning from En65Fs21Wo13 to En2Fs83Wo15 with a 
FeO/MnO of 78 on the average. A few compositions correspond to pyroxferroite. 
Plagioclase is normally zoned from An 91 to An 75 with a sharp rim. Average 
composition An 89. Fayalite (Fo 80 to 95).

Chondrite normalized REE pattern with an enrichment of 53 (La) to 40 (Yb). 
Trace element pattern with negative anomalies of Sr and Eu.

Interstitial glass high in silica (75%) containing microcrysts of K feldspar 
with a significant celsian component. 

The chemistry, major and trace elements, but not the texture, is identical to 
NWA 032-479-773 and LAP 02205-02224-02226-02234-02436-03632.The absence of 
olivine and the relative abundance of silica in NWA 4683 are the main 
differences beside the grain size and the slightly different composition of the 
major phases.

 

 

Classification:  According to the grain size, the texture, the plagioclase 
composition, the core composition of pyroxenes, the FeO/MnO ratio in pyroxene 
and the chemical identity with lunar basalts, it is classified as a highly 
shocked lunar monzogabbro.

 

 

Type specimens: A total of 20 g  of sample and one polished section  is on 
deposit at UPVI..  Aziz H. holds the main mass .

 

 

 

MR HABIBI

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Re: [meteorite-list] Call for Proud Tom

2007-02-28 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
again the idiot Tom?

matteo

--- Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:

 Dear Tom,
 It has been a good long while since we have
 heard from you.
 At one point you promised to tell me who you are.
 Please contact
 me off list and let me know. I will keep it 100%
 between the two
 of us if you prefer. No problem.
 Consider this the bat signal.
 Best wishes, Cap'n Blood
 
 
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Censorship on Meteorite Central? Post not going through.

2007-02-28 Thread Michael L Blood
Greetings Randal,
I cannot be sure how to respond to someone who's logic is to
state he suspects the list has restricted his response - since I am
reading his response on the list.
(This is major brake with rationality #1)
I, personally, did not read all the back  forth posts to which
you refer, as so many like me pick and choose which threads to follow.
I consider myself both limited in insight, therefore, while, at the same
time free of any biases as I read your post.
You next attack Mike Farmer for dropping out of college because
he was making so much money Gee, Mr. Gregory - while I certainly
do consider a college education well worth having to provide one with
a broader perception and appreciation of the world, history, other cultures,
etc. it is not the be all and end all. As Bob Dylan said, much which is
learned is useless and senseless knowledge (I would add that a great
deal goes into understanding the difference between wisdom vs knowledge,
but no one can debate the fact that college does not provide one with
wisdom, only knowledge). Furthermore, sad to say, but the truth is that
the vast majority of people attend college for the nearly exclusive purpose
of earning more money. Second most popular motivation is to provide one
with the option of pursuing an interesting and meaningful career.
Therefore, to attack MF for leaving college to pursue his passion (which is
obviously financially rewarding) is both irrational AND lacking in
appreciation of living one's life in the way that is most meaningful to that
individual.
(so far, that's zero for two, Mr. Gregory).
Now, as to MF's character well, that doesn't need expanding
upon. Mike frequently expresses himself in a way that, as he says, indicates
he is in need of increasing his meds.
So, in the end, you appear to be 1 for 3 and that is stating the
obvious. However, I do hope whatever the dispute was about to begin with
was addressed by you in a more rational manor than your latest post,
because, frankly, Mr. Gregory, anyone who STARTS a post ranting about
how they are being persecuted by Meteorite Central via their posts being
censored has pretty much painted themselves into a corner of near zero
credibility before they have gotten started.
Sincerely, Michael Blood  (PS: I occasionally get ticked off at MF,
myself, as, like all of us, he is less than perfect {he just expresses his
imperfection more loudly and aggressively than most of us})



on 2/26/07 1:08 PM, Randall Gregory at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gentlemen,
 
 Does meteorite-central censor posts? Is freedom of speech restricted? I
 don't know. I wanted to respond to Mr. Farmer's repeated assults on my
 character, but apparently my reply doesn't make to the list. Anyone know
 why? Below is the post I tried to send. It is not an abusive post and I
 refrained from name-calling, only facts and personal observations.
 
 
 
 Randall
 
 
 
 
 
 Dear List,
 
 
 Thanks for the support. I can take the heat, but only for so long. My
 turn to respond. The fire was quite large and many people so willing to
 throw in a log or so. My tongue is sore from repeated biting.   lol ;)
 Anyway,
 I've made a few enemies and some new friends. I treasure opinions and
 insights from my friends. Some have given me solid information,
 opinions, and good advice. And others wellŠ
 
 
 *The intelligent and level-headed people that have kept up with the thread
 saw thru the psychology. The biggest fish to come out of the net was Mike
 Farmer. The globe-trotting, aggressive, and very greedy meteorite hunter. He
 was the most offended thus,  the most potential risk. He'll jump on a plane
 at moment's notice to anywhere in the world where he thinks he can make a
 profit. He's been to Atacama , Chile and he knows South America* . He's
 always hawking and looking for opportunities.
 
 Anyone that threatens to have me killed, calls me a friggin idiot and jerk,
 says everything I've done is a scam, said the crater was a volcano cone, and
 started a link with the subject: Peruvian nut job , sparked my interest. I
 wanted to know what type of person he is and what is his character.  I think
 my impression is accurate.  Here are his comments :
 
 
 
 What a frigging idiot this jerk is. WOW, thieves stole lots of $. It
 tends to happen, and outside the meteorite world I might ad. This guy is
 truly a nutcase. I have seen the photos of his crater. It is not a crater,
 there are no meteorites, it is all a scam.
 
 
 
 He also said in another forum:
 
 
 
 It is NOT  meteorite. Most likely a lightning struck something and melted
 and scorched some stuff. Again, NO Meteorite fall in Tucson :(  *??? Profit
 motivation ???*
 
 Mike Farmer
 
 
 
 It appears he's so quite to dish it out. But can he take it? *Someone
 labeled him a crybaby and he quit the forum because of it!*
 
 * *
 
 * ** - Original Message -*
 
 * From: Space Rocks [EMAIL PROTECTED]*
 
 *To: 

[meteorite-list] AD: Seymchan Meteorite Dust For Sale

2007-02-28 Thread David Kitt Deyarmin
I finished my Seymchan Sphere and a by product of the process is Meteorite Dust

The last time I offered this it was from a Campo meteorite and it all sold in 2 
days, so I thought I should offer this too.

My dust is actually tiny chips and it's pretty cool.

You get a quarter roll sized container with at least 50 grams of dust for $5 
plus shipping ($2.50 for 1st Class or $4.05 for Priority)



If interested send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


You can see a picture of it at  
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Re: [meteorite-list] the price per gram of tatahouine

2007-02-28 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
for sale your tatahouine piece? I offer $5/gr.
Matteo

--- steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha
scritto:

 Good evening list.I was wondering what is the going
 price of tatahouine?I heard from one dealer who said
 it was going for between $10 to $15 per gram.I think
 that would be for the pieces under 10 grams.Then I
 have heard as high up as $55 per gram.Of course that
 would be for the larger ones.I would like to know.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 steve
 
 Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!!
   Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!!
   www.chicagometeorites.net
   Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites
 
 
 
  


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[meteorite-list] FW - NEW LUNAR monzogabbro meteorite (Aziz Habibi)

2007-02-28 Thread gipometeorites
Hi List,

Aziz Habibi asked me to forward a email from him to the list,
so here it is:

dear list,

here is  the first lunar monzogabbro!!, as you will read in the classification; 
 it's also the first lunar to look like a shergotite.

under microscope it's looking exactly like a shergotite from the texture..

with all modesty this is one of the most important  planetary meteorite.a very 
rare classification .

enjoy photo in this link and here is the classification done by doctor Albert 
Jambon from upvi Paris.

. yes a lunar with a Martianshergtoite texture.

 

go to this link and click on lunar album nwa 4683.

http://photos.yahoo.com/azizhabibi

 

to understand how it's classified as monzogabbro check out this link.

http://www.uwgb.edu/DutchS/PETROLGY/classification_of_igneous_rocks.htm.

enjoy photo in this link and here is the classification done by doctor Albert 
Jambon from upvi Paris.

 

there are other album including a new oriented Martian  and a very fresh 
lodranites.

all the best,

aziz habibi

 

Proposed NameNWA  4683   Geographic 
Coordinates1  undisclosed.

Erfoud Morocco

Find : october of 2006

Major classification (group) Achondrite (Lunar monzogabbro)

 

History:  two pieces bought from nomads in Erfoud (Morocco).

Physical characteristics:  One stone broken in two pieces 68 and 409g. Dull 
black fusion crust on one side, weathered on the other side. It is a gray, 
coarse grained, pristine magmatic rock consisting of millimetric phenocrysts 
mainly of pyroxene and plagioclase. 

 

Petrography:  A. Jambon, O. Boudouma and D. Badia. UPVI .

The texture is best described as shergottitic like . Pyroxene are highly 
fractured while plagioclase laths, partly transformed to maskelynite, are only 
affected by a small number of fractures. Silica and silica-feldspar glass are 
minor components. A few impact melt patches underline the similarity with 
shergottites further. Ilmenite, baddeleyite, zirconolite, tranquilityite, 
pyrrhotite and metal. Fayalite associated with silica probably results from the 
dissociation of iron rich pyroxene. Minor terrestrial alteration.

Mode  (vol %): Cpx 50, Plagioclase + Kspar 32,  silica + glass 7.5, opaques 
(ilmenite, Ti-magnetite, pyrrhotite) + fayalite 7, voids + fractures 3.

 

Geochemistry: Mineralogy by EMP and SEM.(Trace and major element analyses 
ICP-MS, J-A Barrat UBO).  

Pyroxene exhibit a complex zoning from En65Fs21Wo13 to En2Fs83Wo15 with a 
FeO/MnO of 78 on the average. A few compositions correspond to pyroxferroite. 
Plagioclase is normally zoned from An 91 to An 75 with a sharp rim. Average 
composition An 89. Fayalite (Fo 80 to 95).

Chondrite normalized REE pattern with an enrichment of 53 (La) to 40 (Yb). 
Trace element pattern with negative anomalies of Sr and Eu.

Interstitial glass high in silica (75%) containing microcrysts of K feldspar 
with a significant celsian component. 

The chemistry, major and trace elements, but not the texture, is identical to 
NWA 032-479-773 and LAP 02205-02224-02226-02234-02436-03632.The absence of 
olivine and the relative abundance of silica in NWA 4683 are the main 
differences beside the grain size and the slightly different composition of the 
major phases.

 

 

Classification:  According to the grain size, the texture, the plagioclase 
composition, the core composition of pyroxenes, the FeO/MnO ratio in pyroxene 
and the chemical identity with lunar basalts, it is classified as a highly 
shocked lunar monzogabbro.

 

 

Type specimens: A total of 20 g  of sample and one polished section  is on 
deposit at UPVI..  Aziz H. holds the main mass .

 

 

 

MR HABIBI

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www.palmotel.com.

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[meteorite-list] Which Chondrite Would Make a Good Sphere

2007-02-28 Thread David Kitt Deyarmin
For those of you that don't know me, I collect and make Meteorite Spheres, I 
got hooked last May and have been steadily building my collection.

My original goal was to get a sphere that represented each main class of the 
Irons (Fine, Medium and Coarse) and various Chondrites.

So far I have obtained or made the following spheres: Brahin, Gibeon, Campo, 
Seymchan and NWA 689. I never thought I would get a pallasite sphere but I got 
lucky.

I have a block of Dronino coming and I will use it to make the next sphere in 
my collection and I also recently purchased a ball Guang Dong Tektite that I'm 
going to test the sphere making process on, However, it's probably too small to 
produce a 50mm sphere.  If I like the results I will have to locate a bigger 
sample to make a sphere for my collection.

So I'm going to be busy during the month of March, but I'm looking ahead.

I would like to make a few spheres out of some chondrite material but I don't 
know what material to use.

I have leads on a whole specimen of NWA 2828 and a nice sized Dimmitt but I'm 
not fully committed to either of these yet.

The NWA 2828 is very interesting but I am concerned that it will look a lot 
like my NWA 869 sphere. How is that possible you say?  I soaked my sphere in 
phosphoric acid and it removed the weathered look so now it's color consists of 
various shades of gray with white and tan patches.  

Greg Hupe was kind enough to send me a slice of NWA 2828 to get a better idea 
of the color and they each have a specific look but I still think they will be 
very close in appearance.  UNLESS the NWA 2828 gets a lot darker when it's 
polished.

The Dimmitt is very affordable but its a very dark material and I'm not sure if 
it will make a nice sphere.

I have scoured the net but I really haven't found anything that caught my 
attention.

So I thought I would ask the list.

My target sphere size is 50mm so the donor specimen will have to be somewhat 
large.

I not made of money so it has to be affordable, I'll save the expensive stuff 
for later :)

If you know if a nice colorful material that you think might make a nice sphere 
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Re: [meteorite-list] major trade offers

2007-02-28 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
http://www.mcomemeteorite.it/product_info.php?products_id=267

http://www.mcomemeteorite.it/product_info.php?products_id=265

http://www.mcomemeteorite.it/product_info.php?products_id=266

Matteo

--- Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:

 My Gao is BIGGER than your Gao..And I am
 taking offers.
 
 http://www.catchafallingstar.com/gao.htm
 
 Jim Strope
 421 Fourth Street
 Glen Dale, WV  26038
 
 http://www.catchafallingstar.com
 
 
 
 
 Hi list.I have decided to put up most of my pieces I
 
 have on my primary collection up for trade.I am 
 looking for GAO.I am looking for all types of gao
 that 
 are at least 95% fusion crusted or better.All except
 a 
 few on my website and all my gaos will not be 
 available for trade.But everything else will
 be.Email 
 off list for what is available.You will be surprised
 
 at what you will get.I have been thinking alot about
 
 this alot lately.And I really like full crusted gao 
 individuals.I guess I have just fallen for gao. 
 
 
 
 
 steve 
 
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[meteorite-list] The Art of Collecting Meteorites (A Book Ad)

2007-02-28 Thread marsrox
New meteorite collectors on this list may be interested in purchasing a copy of 
my book dedicated to this endeavor. Please visit 
www.theartofcollectingmeteorites.com. I am grateful that world-wide sales have 
been steady during the two years since it was published, and that the book has 
been favorably reviewed by the likes of Astronomy, Sky and Telescope, and of 
course, Meteorite magazine.
 
 
To my many friends on this list, my multi-year absence is due to a time and 
money consuming project I just completed here in Costa Rica. Please see 
www.LaQ-CostaRica.com.  I am offering a 25% discount off of the daily room rate 
to list members and will include a nightly meteorite-related program.
 
 
During these last years, I've been suffering through sticky, Spanish-language 
keyboards and dial-up speeds at Internet cafes, and didn't have the leisure 
time to enjoy the m-list. But now, after four years of soliciting, the 
nationalized telecommunications company has installed Internet service and I am 
greatly enjoying DSL right here in my home. Pura Vida! Hopefully, this will 
allow me to again participate in discussions on the m-list.
 
 
In closing, those who have not yet purchased a copy of The Art... are invited 
to check out its beautiful web site (created by Geoff Notkin).   
www.theartofcollectingmeteorites.com
 
 
 
 
From Nine Degrees North,
 
 
 
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[meteorite-list] PolandMET Large new-stuff update - CANYON DIABLO GRAPHITE NODULES

2007-02-28 Thread David Kitt Deyarmin
One of those would make and AWESOME sphere :)

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Re: [meteorite-list] Presenting my 50mm Seymchan Siderite Sphere

2007-02-28 Thread David Kitt Deyarmin
Thanks,

This is the third sphere I made, I mostly just make them for my collection 
since finding 50mm spheres has been difficult.

I'm not a master machinist but I have been working with metal since I was 18.

This one was cut on a 5 Axis CNC milling machine so the computer does most of 
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[meteorite-list] do meteorites fluoresce??

2007-02-28 Thread Jake Baker
Does anyone know  --  Do meteorites fluoresce? Could a person use a black
light to look for them?

 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Call for Proud Tom

2007-02-28 Thread Fredmeteorhall
Dear Proud Tom,
Nothing makes me laugh as much as the Proud Tom series. I may have missed 
a few pages as I've been absent from the list for a few years, so please send 
me any that have been produced lately.
Many high jinks, Fred Hall 
PS: As for your secret identity, please tell me and I promise to tell only my 
Mom, my dog Holbrook, my barber, and the impact crater owners in Peru.



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[meteorite-list] Sand-crusted, polished OC slice

2007-02-28 Thread STARSANDSCOPES
Hi Mike,  This is Tom Phillips the micrograph guy.
 
About a year ago you posted the list about a NWA meteorite incrusted in  sand 
grains.  I have several small and one 7 kilo individuals that look to  have 
beautiful crust but are coated in grains of what looks like quartz.   It does 
not seem to prefer any side but rather seems to encircle it.
 
Did you find out any thing interesting in your query?  Thanks,  Tom
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[meteorite-list] Thanks !

2007-02-28 Thread MexicoDoug
Dear List,

Finally I'm home!  It's been a long Tucson for me, all very enjoyable.
Please take a moment
to hear me rant -or more appropriately: rave- about the meteorite folks who
colored my world in Arizona and beyond.

First, in order of meeting, is Jim Kriegh with whom I feel privileged to
have shared an unexpected couple hours of fine conversation with and
appreciated
his suggestions and observations.  I am looking forward to the day I can tag
along in the field with you, Jim.  Shortly later, I met 'Twink' and kind
meteorite spouse Larry whose reservoirs of kindness never ran dry in the
most
challenging situations.  I thank my lucky star to have you as friends and
frankly couldn't have done anything besides a basic Tucson without your
help.  I am sure that I am talking for many a meteorhound when I also say
the meteorite cake colors golden our Tucson experience like the children
looking forward to the Rosca de Reyes (Pan de Reyes: The round glazed
candy-fruited sweetbread) in Mexico on Epiphany:
http://www.worldonaplate.org/world_on_a_plate/2007/01/rosca_de_reyes.html

To The Classic Chladnis, Andi, Stefan, and Martin were the kindest folks,
and once wound up and rolling, proved to be a barrel full of meteorites,
moons and loons, not to mention knowledge, conversation, food and mead...
What a fun gang, and place to escape the high pressure sales joints, thanks
friends - I hope you are able to attend next year!  Martin, have you yet
recovered from the alleged S. American plague?  Take two Hasparos and call
me in the morning under Appley Bridge and I promise you'll be cured.

Next, I met up with Rusty Bill Mason in the rear of Heorot's Hall of
Paleoenterologists.  Bill has a delightful sense of humor and is always
ready to help you recover your irons wherever you might have put them,
gratis and with a big smile.  What more could one ask of such a experimented
practitioner of non-petreous proto-planet preservation?  I hope he never
closes the gates to huddled meteoritical masses, whether they be immersed in
the mainstream or relegated as poor plum puddinged deserted individuals.

OK, next in line was the room with the nicest duo that has put up with
meteorites all these years.  That would be Blaine and his every sympathetic
brother Blake Reed, plus the caravan of mirth that you can count on finding
there this time including the likes of Blake's attractive and pleasant
girlfriend, plus the likes of AL and Mike Mtz who I saw this time there.
Thanks for my wonderful wine glass which I am pleased to have cared for all
the way home, over a few mountains, valleys, wet lakes, urban forests and
numerous army check points.  Whenever I am in the presence of the Reed's,
truly, I am filled with
admiration.  Blaine has put up with the ups and downs of the Business like
no other,
never sacrificing his smile, genuine generosity and helpfulness, and sage
advice, such as Always leave something attractive on the table for buyers.
Ah ...
a phrase so easily said by many but so hard to find when you need it...but
friends of Blaine will know exactly what I mean.

Rumor was that the IMCA was to have a dinner, so upon the encouragement of
several members, I decided to crash the party which was at La Fuente
restaurante.  Here I was fortunate to meet up with the kind and openly
jovial Jensens, cladistic Chladnis', oh lala Anne B., the enchanting Maria
Haas and the nice guy (name?) sitting to her right, and Mark Bostick, Greg
Hupe and many others further from my seat.  That evening for me, though, my
heart was
won by Maria Haas, as it was the first time I met her in person and realized
just how honest and caring of a person she is - always helping others, and
as we
saw leading an effort to help Walter Branch and family from the meteorite
community.  Just listening to Maria's caring comments had me realize how
lucky I am to be in the same virtual community as she.  Good luck Maria in
Holbrook I wished ... knowing I would not be able to arrive there and share
the hunt until she was about to leave.

Speaking of Maria I also met the always pleasant Latin superstore jefe
Eduardo a few times who was clearly having a great time.  Such a contagious
smile!  He mentioned he wanted to go to Holbrook so I invited him to come
along with me a few days later.  He politely declined in favor of holding
out until Maria invited him again.  It went down something like this: Why
would I want to go with you, when I could go with (harps play theme from
West Side Story) MARIA.  Actually there was a lot of sense to Eduardo's
words.  I wouldn't want to go with me either - if I could go with Maria.  So
next time I'll check into the possibility of ditching myself and going with
Maria instead.  Say it loud Eduardo and there's Music Playing!  Hope you
enjoyed your royal suites hotel with Jacuzzi and all, btw.  Sure beat the
crap out of my accommodations but I'm not complaining.  Also, thanks for the
lessons southern-South American style on the regional 

Re: [meteorite-list] BoldHefty: ALH84001 from NASA offered on ebay....NOT !!!!

2007-02-28 Thread Jim Strope
That is Zagami in that cube.  NOT ALH84001

Jim Strope
421 Fourth Street
Glen Dale, WV  26038

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Re: [meteorite-list] Larry's Holbrook Holy Grail Find and BobHaag's Venus Stone

2007-02-28 Thread Jason Utas

Hello Dave, All,


If indeed the Adamana meteorite is the front piece of the Holbrook, and

I'm NOT saying it is

The idea of a 'front piece' of the Holbrook mass is something that I find
completely ridiculous.  Stress mechanics alone state that anything at the
front of the object would be subjected to much greater stress than the
remainder of the stone and would therefore be the first part of the stone to
fragment.  There's simply no reason whatsoever for the trailing remainder of
the meteorite to so violently explode, seeing as it must have been subjected
to much lesser forces.
If, however, it were simply a small portion of a larger 'main mass' of
Holbrook that one hypothesizes must have traveled an additional number of
miles past the known termination of the strewnfield, you might have the
basis for some sort of multiple-fragmentation, the likes of which has
*never* been seen before, with at least two distribution ellipses separated
my miles of 'barren' land.  I, however, find this about equally unlikely as
the previously mentioned possibility, if not more so.


then it would have the thickest primary crust out

of any other portion of the fall.

Why?  There's no reason for such a 'front piece,' even supposing it could
exist, to not fragment later into multiple pieces just as the remainder of
the fall had.  In all probability, if such a 'front piece' existed, this
would most likely be a portion that broke off of it, and as such, its crust
would most likely be the same as the rest of the fall.

That said, you do seem to acknowledge the fact that it's crust does, in
general, appear to be much more thick/different in appearance than that of
Holbrook, to say nothing of the interior...


There are pictures of original finds

that have chondrules as much as 5-7 mm in diameter.

I know.  Holbrook has much larger chondrules than that of Adamana, at least
as well as can be seen on the broken surfaces.


Also, one has to

keep in mind that it was found in a horse corral.  I'm sure acidic horse
urine and different soil conditions could have some kind of effect on it
as well...IF it was.

Versus sitting in a watershed plain next to an annually torrential wash?
Different soil conditions might create a difference in weathering (though if
it is, as you say, a mere four miles away, I doubt there would be any
difference at all), but horse urine effects would be negligible at
best...corrals are used sporadically at best anyways, to say nothing of the
fact that annual rainfall.
In fact, while the horse urine would be acidic, it would take rain/moisture
to disassociate the ions in order to actually create any acidic effects -
and as we all know, when it rains in Az, it pours...and would wash all of
the acid downriver and out of the soil anyways.


I'm just saying that I for one, am not quite ready

to throw the half-baked theory in the trashyet.

Eh, I grant you that there's a small chance Adamana's a part of
Holbrook...in my opinion, very, very small.


Actually, the Adamana Meteorite was found 11 miles from Arntz (aka

Aztec).  Not quite all the way to Adamana which is 13 miles as the
meteor flies.  (I did some remeasuring).  And, if the Goodwater theory
is correct, then you are only talking about 4 miles.  According to the
July 26, 1912 article on the Holbrook Argus: There was a heavy
explosion similar to that of a heavy blast followed by a fuscillade of
smaller explosions which terminated in a thunder-like rumble of
approximately two minutes in duration.  In Warren Foote's Preliminary
Notes of the July 19, 1912 Meteoric Fall at Aztec, Arizona, he writes:
It was heard in Concho, St. Joseph, Woodruff, and Pinedale, some 40
miles away.  One large explosion was quickly followed by several small
ones in rapid succession.

Firstly, the strewnfield has varying descriptions in almost every paper that
I've seen.  I just read a paper in which Kring stated that the strewnfield
was ~1.5 sq. miles, a writeup by the DeLanges that states that it was ~1 by
~1/2 miles.  I'm looking into Farrington - a little hard for me while I'm at
school ;)


Now it's more like 3 miles long by 1 mile wide and growing.  Even Warren

Foote mentions this dimension in 1912.

Again, conflicting reports...though by now, erosion could have made the
field that large even if it hadn't been as big to start out with...that
would explain the 'growing' aspect of it I guess.  In any case, I cannot
consider myself a judge, seeing as I was not there at the time of the fall,
as were several well regarded scientific figures, who gave conflicting
reports.


HmmmI've never heard that before.  I'd like to know where you

read/heard that information as that is interesting to me.  According to
Foote:  The large and small stones, according to all answers received,
were said to be indiscriminately spread over the ground, without regard
to size. The violent disruptions near Holbrook might account for the
lack of such a separation

If, as you say, there truly was 

Re: [meteorite-list] BoldHefty: ALH84001 from NASA offered on ebay....

2007-02-28 Thread EKGMARS
Another sample of Zagami   and NOT ALH84001.   This sample was prepared by 
Darryl Pitt and colleagues for educational and retail purposes.
 Everett Gibson


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Re: [meteorite-list] major trade offers

2007-02-28 Thread Joe
Steve,
   Is you tat up already? I remember you saying it will never be resold, just 
like you big S.A.
Joe

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[meteorite-list] Face on Mars - Face on Earth

2007-02-28 Thread Randall Gregory
I'm sure some of you remember when Viking captured an image of what was 
believed to be an apparent face carved in a natural formation and the resulting 
speculation as to whether it might be artifical.
   
  http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast24may_1.htm
   
  We now have our own face, clearly visable from space. Our image has been 
named Rostro de Dios or face of God.
   
  http://wikimapia.org/#y=-16352427x=-71948090z=12l=0m=av=2
   
  It can also be viewed using Google Earth.
   
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Re: [meteorite-list] do meteorites fluoresce??

2007-02-28 Thread STARSANDSCOPES
Hi Barb,  This is Tom Phillips.  I  take meteorite micrographs. My Gallery is 
at  http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/I have an aus Jena  
Fluoval (a fluorescence microscope) that I use for thin section cross polarized 
 
light examination.  I looked through many samples (200+) for even the  smallest 
speck that would fluoresce.  I had no luck.

On a similar  note, I have on occasion, scanned many meteorites with a Geiger 
counter and no  positive tests there either.

Just because I never found it, doesn't mean  it isn't out there so if you 
hear of a fluorescing meteorite, please let me  know.  I would like to get a 
piece.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Censorship on Meteorite Central? Post not going through.

2007-02-28 Thread Darren Garrison
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:24:03 -0800, you wrote:

Greetings Randal,
I cannot be sure how to respond to someone who's logic is to
state he suspects the list has restricted his response - since I am
reading his response on the list.

There seems to be a sporadic problem with the list-- I had a post bounce
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Re: [meteorite-list] Peruvian Crater

2007-02-28 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:12:05 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

  Luckily Randall will not be the last person on the face of the Earth to have 
 a find and we can all happily going hunting our own merry ways.
   

Given how many meteorites are found in desert areas, he might accidentally find
a small one or two in that 100 hectares, if he searches hard enough.
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[meteorite-list] Indiana Students Learn Meteor 'Rights' and Meteor 'Wrongs'

2007-02-28 Thread Ron Baalke

http://media.www.indianastatesman.com/media/storage/paper929/news/2007/02/28/Campus/Students.Learn.Meteor.rights.And.Meteor.wrongs-2747211.shtml

Students learn meteor 'rights' and meteor 'wrongs'
By Evan Miller
Indiana Stateman
February 28, 2007

Before the launch of Sputnik in 1957, scientists had to rely on the
poor man's space probe to gather information about conditions in outer
space.

Humans have observed these space probes, better known as meteorites,
since ancient times.

Indiana is no exception. Meteorites have been recovered everywhere from
LaPorte to Harrison County.

Until just a few years ago, we had no samples of anything outside the
earth other than meteorites, said Nelson R. Shaffer Ph.D.

Shaffer, of the Indiana Geological Survey, came to ISU Monday to explain
these meteorites and their effects on the planet. The event, which was
sponsored by the Department of Geology, Geography, and Anthropology,
examined meteorites in Indiana. People continued to gather around the
door to get a closer look at his display cases and slides of meteorites.
He presented pictures of several different meteorite types, as well as a
map of those recovered in Indiana. Shaffer explained what to look for to
identify a meteorite.

Look for a thin dark coating. It can be glassy or dull, he said.
They're usually heavy because they're made of metal.

Shaffer is the Section Head of Coal and Industrial Minerals with the
Indiana Geological Survey and is an expert in mineralogy and meteorites.
He stated that of the 1,000 or so documented meteorite falls, more than
90 percent are stones while 5-6 percent are iron.

We get a lot of meteor-wrongs as well, he joked.

Many people bring in strange rocks that they think may be meteorites in
hopes of striking it rich. Meteorite burglary is a lucrative crime with
some meteorites selling for millions of dollars, Shaffer said.

Shaffer also explained several incidents of meteorites hitting cars,
houses and even people. He brought handouts describing all 11 of the
meteorite falls or finds in Indiana.

A person might witness a meteorite fall, but meteorite finds are found
by accident much later. Shaffer even displayed a tiny piece of Mars in
his collection of space debris.

I just like meteorites he said, with a smile.

Shaffer stayed long after the presentation was over to answer questions
from curious students and to display his collection.
For more informaion on meteorite activity, visit the Indiana Geological
Survey Website at http://igs.indiana.edu/.

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Re: [meteorite-list] do meteorites fluoresce??

2007-02-28 Thread MexicoDoug
Hola Tom, from Mexico,

SODALITE, PLAGIOCLASE?

Suerte Sunlight is probably the best bet :-(, Doug



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 Hi Barb,  This is Tom Phillips.  I  take meteorite micrographs. My Gallery
is
 at  http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/I have an aus Jena
 Fluoval (a fluorescence microscope) that I use for thin section cross
polarized
 light examination.  I looked through many samples (200+) for even the
smallest
 speck that would fluoresce.  I had no luck.

 On a similar  note, I have on occasion, scanned many meteorites with a
Geiger
 counter and no  positive tests there either.

 Just because I never found it, doesn't mean  it isn't out there so if you
 hear of a fluorescing meteorite, please let me  know.  I would like to get
a
 piece.

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Re: [meteorite-list] NEW LUNAR monzogabbro meteorite looks like a Shergottite

2007-02-28 Thread Rob McCafferty
I am not going to claim any authority in the area of
geology but I will claim a good experience of
Anorthosite, a principle constituent of the lunar
surface. The Isle of Harris, the next island down from
me [is actually connected to my island, Lewis, by a
land bridge] has an entire mountain made from the
stuff, despite it's rare nature and I've collected
plenty of it to decorate my garden.
It weathers by ice and abrasion to the same gorgeous
white colour of the genesis rock brought back by the
Apollo 15 crew. This is not surprising since their
rock was weathered on the outside too, but that stone
was impact weathered only.

Inside the rocks from harris they are remarkably
crystaline, quite grey in appearance and U took the
liberty of borrowing a lathe[?] to polish a small
section of a chunk i rather brutally chipped off with
a chisel. Apart from the colour, it looks very like a
piece of SAU008/005, a shergottite. 

In all honesty and with hindsight, it does not
surprise me that a lunar meteorite may well look like
a martian one.

Anorthosite I believe, is a plutonic rock and since
most of the white part of the moon is made from it,
the only surpise to me, after thinking about it, is
that one that looks like a shergottite has not been
discovered before. 

I suggest that aeons of impacts on the moon do not
leave big enough chunks near the surface to preserve
the structure of the rock and that is why we haven't
seen one before. Having said that, we've only really
been looking for a few years.
Meteorites have, at least the potential to come from
deeper than the long weathered surface materials
brought back by the Apollo crews. This all makes sense
to me, if it is a confirmed discovery.

In a differentiated body the size of the moon and
mars, I think, in retrospect, we should not be
surprised at all.

Obviously, if this turns out to be a hoax, I absolve
myself of all I have said here on the grounds that I
have never heard of monzogabbro before. Gabbro is just
a feldspar with less than 60% or is it 40%[?]
anorthosite. What the frip does monzo mean? I thought
he was a character in the muppet show.

Rob McC 
{the man with a million tons of fake moon rock}

--- gipometeorites [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi List,
 
 Aziz Habibi asked me to forward a email from him to
 the list,
 so here it is:
 
 dear list,
 
 here is  the first lunar monzogabbro!!, as you will
 read in the classification;  it's also the first
 lunar to look like a shergotite.
 
 under microscope it's looking exactly like a
 shergotite from the texture..
 
 with all modesty this is one of the most important 
 planetary meteorite.a very rare classification .
 
 enjoy photo in this link and here is the
 classification done by doctor Albert Jambon from
 upvi Paris.
 
 . yes a lunar with a Martianshergtoite
 texture.
 
  
 
 go to this link and click on lunar album nwa 4683.
 
 http://photos.yahoo.com/azizhabibi
 
  
 
 to understand how it's classified as monzogabbro
 check out this link.
 

http://www.uwgb.edu/DutchS/PETROLGY/classification_of_igneous_rocks.htm.
 
 enjoy photo in this link and here is the
 classification done by doctor Albert Jambon from
 upvi Paris.
 
  
 
 there are other album including a new oriented
 Martian  and a very fresh lodranites.
 
 all the best,
 
 aziz habibi
 
  
 
 Proposed NameNWA  4683  
 Geographic Coordinates1 
 undisclosed.
 
 Erfoud Morocco
 
 Find : october of 2006
 
 Major classification (group) Achondrite (Lunar
 monzogabbro)
 
  
 
 History:  two pieces bought from nomads in Erfoud
 (Morocco).
 
 Physical characteristics:  One stone broken in two
 pieces 68 and 409g. Dull black fusion crust on one
 side, weathered on the other side. It is a gray,
 coarse grained, pristine magmatic rock consisting of
 millimetric phenocrysts mainly of pyroxene and
 plagioclase. 
 
  
 
 Petrography:  A. Jambon, O. Boudouma and D. Badia.
 UPVI .
 
 The texture is best described as shergottitic like .
 Pyroxene are highly fractured while plagioclase
 laths, partly transformed to maskelynite, are only
 affected by a small number of fractures. Silica and
 silica-feldspar glass are minor components. A few
 impact melt patches underline the similarity with
 shergottites further. Ilmenite, baddeleyite,
 zirconolite, tranquilityite, pyrrhotite and metal.
 Fayalite associated with silica probably results
 from the dissociation of iron rich pyroxene. Minor
 terrestrial alteration.
 
 Mode  (vol %): Cpx 50, Plagioclase + Kspar 32, 
 silica + glass 7.5, opaques (ilmenite, Ti-magnetite,
 pyrrhotite) + fayalite 7, voids + fractures 3.
 
  
 
 Geochemistry: Mineralogy by EMP and SEM.(Trace and
 major element analyses ICP-MS, J-A Barrat UBO).  
 
 Pyroxene exhibit a complex zoning from En65Fs21Wo13
 to En2Fs83Wo15 with a FeO/MnO of 78 on the average.
 A few compositions correspond to pyroxferroite.
 Plagioclase is normally zoned from An 91 to An 75
 with a sharp rim. Average 

Re: [meteorite-list] metreorites 4 sale - spam

2007-02-28 Thread PolandMET
Dear Mohamed,
This is meteorite list, this mean that this is place for conversation. 
Usually its forbidden to send to the list any attachmets to the emails. 
Unfortunatelly list admin do not set up this limits here.

Please dont send this kind LARGE photos to this list. It is not place to do 
this. If You like to send ANY KIND of advertisements send only text message 
and in topic write AD.

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Re: [meteorite-list] PolandMET Large new-stuff update - CANYON DIABLOGRAPHITE NODULES

2007-02-28 Thread PolandMET
One of those would make and AWESOME sphere :)

=
what ??
Are kidding ? Spheres are funny example of material vaste, especially in 
time when flood of meteorites stops. Slices looks better

I have information that Morocco closed south border with Mauretania, so 
another meteorite-rich area is unavailable. Military forces are on the 
border. Thats not funny.

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Re: [meteorite-list] do meteorites fluoresce??

2007-02-28 Thread Mr EMan
Hello Tom, List,

In the for what its worth category, the degree of
fluorescence in feldspar chondrules is the means for
defining the intermediate grades within the 3 grades,(
e.g 3.1, 3.2 , etc.)  I don't know what wavelength is
the standard for that examination.  If you've the
fluorscent microscope and knowing those standards you
might be able to observe this in common chondrite thin
sections but I think it would be in some form we
wouldn't easily recognize. A coverslip would of course
block UV, but uncovered slides attract lint which
glows brightly. 


That said, my experience is the same as Tom's. I've
desperately and extensively looked for any SW/MW/LW
response to a standard mineral UV lamp and have yet to
find even a hint of fluorscence. What I know about
exciter ions suggest that what ever flourscence may
be, it will not be visible to the naked eye.

Elton
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Re: [meteorite-list] NEW LUNAR monzogabbro meteorite looks like aShergottite

2007-02-28 Thread Rob McCafferty
Oh yeah...Not a particulary remarkable entry at that.
Since gabbro has been found in lunar meteorites, it's
not particularly surprising this stuff is either.

Atrange group the feldspars. So many names based on
how much anorthosite is in them as a proportion to
secondary minerals. Yipe. I'm glad I'm not a
geologist. If I had to be I'd pick the moon over the
earth any day.

Rob McC


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 Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 5:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NEW LUNAR monzogabbro
 meteorite looks like 
 aShergottite
 
 
 I am not going to claim any authority in the area
 of
  geology but I will claim a good experience of
  Anorthosite, a principle constituent of the lunar
  surface. The Isle of Harris, the next island down
 from
  me [is actually connected to my island, Lewis, by
 a
  land bridge] has an entire mountain made from the
  stuff, despite it's rare nature and I've collected
  plenty of it to decorate my garden.
  It weathers by ice and abrasion to the same
 gorgeous
  white colour of the genesis rock brought back by
 the
  Apollo 15 crew. This is not surprising since their
  rock was weathered on the outside too, but that
 stone
  was impact weathered only.
 
  Inside the rocks from harris they are remarkably
  crystaline, quite grey in appearance and U took
 the
  liberty of borrowing a lathe[?] to polish a small
  section of a chunk i rather brutally chipped off
 with
  a chisel. Apart from the colour, it looks very
 like a
  piece of SAU008/005, a shergottite.
 
  In all honesty and with hindsight, it does not
  surprise me that a lunar meteorite may well look
 like
  a martian one.
 
  Anorthosite I believe, is a plutonic rock and
 since
  most of the white part of the moon is made from
 it,
  the only surpise to me, after thinking about it,
 is
  that one that looks like a shergottite has not
 been
  discovered before.
 
  I suggest that aeons of impacts on the moon do not
  leave big enough chunks near the surface to
 preserve
  the structure of the rock and that is why we
 haven't
  seen one before. Having said that, we've only
 really
  been looking for a few years.
  Meteorites have, at least the potential to come
 from
  deeper than the long weathered surface materials
  brought back by the Apollo crews. This all makes
 sense
  to me, if it is a confirmed discovery.
 
  In a differentiated body the size of the moon and
  mars, I think, in retrospect, we should not be
  surprised at all.
 
  Obviously, if this turns out to be a hoax, I
 absolve
  myself of all I have said here on the grounds that
 I
  have never heard of monzogabbro before. Gabbro is
 just
  a feldspar with less than 60% or is it 40%[?]
  anorthosite. What the frip does monzo mean? I
 thought
  he was a character in the muppet show.
 
  Rob McC
  {the man with a million tons of fake moon rock}
 
  --- gipometeorites [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
  Hi List,
 
  Aziz Habibi asked me to forward a email from him
 to
  the list,
  so here it is:
 
  dear list,
 
  here is  the first lunar monzogabbro!!, as you
 will
  read in the classification;  it's also the first
  lunar to look like a shergotite.
 
  under microscope it's looking exactly like a
  shergotite from the texture..
 
  with all modesty this is one of the most
 important
  planetary meteorite.a very rare classification .
 
  enjoy photo in this link and here is the
  classification done by doctor Albert Jambon from
  upvi Paris.
 
  . yes a lunar with a Martianshergtoite
  texture.
 
 
 
  go to this link and click on lunar album nwa
 4683.
 
  http://photos.yahoo.com/azizhabibi
 
 
 
  to understand how it's classified as monzogabbro
  check out this link.
 
 
 

http://www.uwgb.edu/DutchS/PETROLGY/classification_of_igneous_rocks.htm.
 
  enjoy photo in this link and here is the
  classification done by doctor Albert Jambon from
  upvi Paris.
 
 
 
  there are other album including a new oriented
  Martian  and a very fresh lodranites.
 
  all the best,
 
  aziz habibi
 
 
 
  Proposed NameNWA  4683
  Geographic Coordinates1
  undisclosed.
 
  Erfoud Morocco
 
  Find : october of 2006
 
  Major classification (group) Achondrite (Lunar
  monzogabbro)
 
 
 
  History:  two pieces bought from nomads in Erfoud
  (Morocco).
 
  Physical characteristics:  One stone broken in
 two
  pieces 68 and 409g. Dull black fusion crust on
 one
  side, weathered on the other side. It is a gray,
  coarse grained, pristine magmatic rock consisting
 of
  millimetric phenocrysts mainly of pyroxene and
  plagioclase.
 
 
 
  Petrography:  A. Jambon, O. Boudouma and D.
 Badia.
  UPVI .
 
  The texture is best described as shergottitic
 like .
  Pyroxene are highly fractured while plagioclase
  laths, partly 

Re: [meteorite-list] Face on Mars - Face on Earth

2007-02-28 Thread Pete Pete
That looks just like Mike Farmer's face! :]

Cheers,
Pete


From: Randall Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Face on Mars - Face on Earth
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:39:14 -0800 (PST)

I'm sure some of you remember when Viking captured an image of what was 
believed to be an apparent face carved in a natural formation and the 
resulting speculation as to whether it might be artifical.

   http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast24may_1.htm

   We now have our own face, clearly visable from space. Our image has been 
named Rostro de Dios or face of God.

   http://wikimapia.org/#y=-16352427x=-71948090z=12l=0m=av=2

   It can also be viewed using Google Earth.

   Randall






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Re: [meteorite-list] Face on Mars - Face on Earth

2007-02-28 Thread Gerald Flaherty
Gee, now that you mention it??!
Jerry Flaherty
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From: Pete Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Face on Mars - Face on Earth


 That looks just like Mike Farmer's face! :]

 Cheers,
 Pete


 From: Randall Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Face on Mars - Face on Earth
 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:39:14 -0800 (PST)

 I'm sure some of you remember when Viking captured an image of what was
 believed to be an apparent face carved in a natural formation and the
 resulting speculation as to whether it might be artifical.

   http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast24may_1.htm

   We now have our own face, clearly visable from space. Our image has been
 named Rostro de Dios or face of God.

   http://wikimapia.org/#y=-16352427x=-71948090z=12l=0m=av=2

   It can also be viewed using Google Earth.

   Randall






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[meteorite-list] trade updates

2007-02-28 Thread steve arnold
Hello list.I updated my website and deleted all pics
that are not for trading.Here is a final scenario of
what I am keeping.The titolar,the nwa 1685,the nwa
1766 and the el arouss.All the rest are for trading
for any nice gao individuals.I am sorry for the 3
email on this trade,but I feel I should have been more
involved when I sent out the first one.





steve arnold

Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!!
  Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!!
  www.chicagometeorites.net
  Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites



 

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[meteorite-list] Nininger Glass and Brick

2007-02-28 Thread Gary K. Foote
A few months ago I aquired a brick from the Nininger Museum.  Today a very nice 
shard of 
glass from that historic building arrived in my mailbox, courtesy of Jan 
Bartels.  All 
dirty with Arizona desert still...

http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/nininger-museum.html

Thanks Jan!

Gary
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Re: [meteorite-list] do meteorites fluoresce??

2007-02-28 Thread Jeff Grossman
At 05:49 PM 2/28/2007, Mr EMan wrote:
In the for what its worth category, the degree of
fluorescence in feldspar chondrules is the means for
defining the intermediate grades within the 3 grades,(
e.g 3.1, 3.2 , etc.)  I don't know what wavelength is
the standard for that examination.  If you've the
fluorscent microscope and knowing those standards you
might be able to observe this in common chondrite thin
sections but I think it would be in some form we
wouldn't easily recognize. A coverslip would of course
block UV, but uncovered slides attract lint which
glows brightly.

Actually, the property that is used to determine the petrologic types 
of chondrites is thermoluminescence (TL), not fluorescence.  TL is 
the emission of light in response to heating a sample, and it is a 
very small effect.  The fluorescence you are talking about is the 
emission of light after absorption of light of a different wavelength 
(often UV).

In point of fact, many meteorites do show a spectacular variety of 
luminescence, namely cathodoluminescence (CL).  This is emission of 
light in response to bombardment with an electron beam, as in 
CRTs.  Type 3 ordinary chondrites are particularly beautiful, with 
different minerals glowing red, blue, and yellow.  Check out the work 
of Derek Sears at: 
http://www.uark.edu/depts/cosmo/research%20projects/CL%20mosaics/
There are small, portable instruments that can be used to look at CL, 
but probably they won't be found outside of labs.

jeff


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US Geological Survey  fax:   (703) 648-6383
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Re: [meteorite-list] do meteorites fluoresce??

2007-02-28 Thread Gerald Flaherty
Thanks to all who asked and contributed to this very interesting question, 
Barb for asking Tom for answering.
Jeff, thanks especially for the information and link.
Elton thank you also for contributing. All helped to put this into 
perspective.
An extrodinary phenomenon, what?
Jerry Flaherty
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From: Jeff Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] do meteorites fluoresce??


 At 05:49 PM 2/28/2007, Mr EMan wrote:
In the for what its worth category, the degree of
fluorescence in feldspar chondrules is the means for
defining the intermediate grades within the 3 grades,(
e.g 3.1, 3.2 , etc.)  I don't know what wavelength is
the standard for that examination.  If you've the
fluorscent microscope and knowing those standards you
might be able to observe this in common chondrite thin
sections but I think it would be in some form we
wouldn't easily recognize. A coverslip would of course
block UV, but uncovered slides attract lint which
glows brightly.

 Actually, the property that is used to determine the petrologic types
 of chondrites is thermoluminescence (TL), not fluorescence.  TL is
 the emission of light in response to heating a sample, and it is a
 very small effect.  The fluorescence you are talking about is the
 emission of light after absorption of light of a different wavelength
 (often UV).

 In point of fact, many meteorites do show a spectacular variety of
 luminescence, namely cathodoluminescence (CL).  This is emission of
 light in response to bombardment with an electron beam, as in
 CRTs.  Type 3 ordinary chondrites are particularly beautiful, with
 different minerals glowing red, blue, and yellow.  Check out the work
 of Derek Sears at:
 http://www.uark.edu/depts/cosmo/research%20projects/CL%20mosaics/
 There are small, portable instruments that can be used to look at CL,
 but probably they won't be found outside of labs.

 jeff


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 US Geological Survey  fax:   (703) 648-6383
 954 National Center
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Re: [meteorite-list] Nininger Glass and Brick

2007-02-28 Thread Gerald Flaherty
Excuse my ignorance, but we're scheduled to visit Meteor Crater this summer.
Is the original building still standing?
Is one permitted to take anything?
Jerry Flaherty
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Nininger Glass and Brick


A few months ago I aquired a brick from the Nininger Museum.  Today a very 
nice shard of
 glass from that historic building arrived in my mailbox, courtesy of Jan 
 Bartels.  All
 dirty with Arizona desert still...

 http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/nininger-museum.html

 Thanks Jan!

 Gary
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[meteorite-list] Happy Birthday Parnallee Cindy

2007-02-28 Thread Notkin
Dear Listees:

Happy Birthday Parnallee! 150 years old today.

LL3.6
Fell February 28, 1857
Madura, India

Wow, look at those chondrules:  http://www.aerolite.org/parnallee.htm

My girlfriend, the lovely Cindy Sue, whom many of you know from the 
Tucson show, is also celebrating a big one today, but my Dad once told 
me it wasn't polite to mention a lady's age. She's very pretty as well, 
and has NO chondrules at all  : )


Cheers to all from old Tucson,

Geoff N.

www.aerolite.org

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Re: [meteorite-list] Nininger Glass and Brick

2007-02-28 Thread Gary K. Foote
Truthfully I do not know.  The picture on my site of the museum 'Today' is one 
readily 
available online and I've not been there since 1960.  It stood then tho...

Gary

On 28 Feb 2007 at 20:36, Gerald Flaherty wrote:

 Excuse my ignorance, but we're scheduled to visit Meteor Crater this summer.
 Is the original building still standing?
 Is one permitted to take anything?
 Jerry Flaherty
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 From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:19 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Nininger Glass and Brick
 
 
 A few months ago I aquired a brick from the Nininger Museum.  Today a very 
 nice shard of
  glass from that historic building arrived in my mailbox, courtesy of Jan 
  Bartels.  All
  dirty with Arizona desert still...
 
  http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/nininger-museum.html
 
  Thanks Jan!
 
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[meteorite-list] Geologists Find Meteorite on Panama Beach

2007-02-28 Thread Ron Baalke

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-03/01/content_5786159.htm 

Geologists find meteorite on Panama beach
China View
February 28, 2007

PANAMA CITY (Xinhua) -- Panamanian geologists have found 
an meteorite at Rio Hato, a coastal town west of the capital Panama 
City.

The meteorite fell onto Rio Hato's beach last Friday, geologist 
Juan de Dios Villa told the press on Wednesday.

The landing was witnessed by a security guard, who described it 
as a ball of fire crashing down from the sky onto the sand.

The 4.2 kg red object, measuring 20 cm in diameter, will be 
X-rayed for more details, said Villa, chief geologist at the 
National Mineral Resources Directorate.

The meteorite shows burn marks on its exterior, and appears to be 
mainly carbon-based, in contrast to most meteorites, which mainly 
contain iron.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Geologists Find Meteorite on Panama Beach

2007-02-28 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:46:53 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

The 4.2 kg red object

Red?
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Re: [meteorite-list] Geologists Find Meteorite on Panama Beach

2007-02-28 Thread Don Edwards

--- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:46:53 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
 
 The 4.2 kg red object
 
 Red?

Maybe it's from Mars, the Red Planet  

Don
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Re: [meteorite-list] do meteorites fluoresce??

2007-02-28 Thread Mr EMan
DUH, e hummm  My Bad!

more Google less off the cuff, more Google less off
the cuff---I think I have it now.

Eman
--- Jeff Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Actually, the property that is used to determine the
 petrologic types of chondrites is thermoluminescence
(TL), not fluorescence. 
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[meteorite-list] (no subject)

2007-02-28 Thread debfred
Listoids, I am rather pleased tonight as I sit here in snowy Colorado. I have 
in my hands a rock that I first saw streaking across the night sky glowing 
brighter than the Sun. My wife and I were returning from a friends birthday 
party after midnight some nine years ago when we saw a fireball streak low 
across the southern sky. We spent several days the next years searching for 
this meteorite we were sure must be waiting for us. Two years after the 
fireball a five year old boy found the first piece and the main mass of the 
Elbert meteorite. I am fortunate to have obtained a piece of this LL6 fall. I 
am wondering how many of you have a meteorite that you saw flying through the 
sky. I know I feel unbelievably fortunate to have such a piece. Regards, Fred 
Olsen, Denver
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[meteorite-list] (no subject)

2007-02-28 Thread debfred
Listoids, I am rather pleased tonight as I sit here in snowy Colorado. I have 
in 
my hands a rock that I first saw streaking across the night sky glowing 
brighter 
than the Sun. My wife and I were returning from a friends birthday party after 
midnight some nine years ago when we saw a fireball streak low across the 
southern sky. We spent several days the next years searching for this meteorite 
we were sure must be waiting for us. Two years after the fireball a five year 
old boy found the first piece and the main mass of the Elbert meteorite. I am 
fortunate to have obtained a piece of this LL6 fall. I am wondering how many of 
you have a meteorite that you saw flying through the sky. I know I feel 
unbelievably fortunate to have such a piece. Regards, Fred Olsen, Denver

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Re: [meteorite-list] The Art of Collecting Meteorites (A Book Ad)

2007-02-28 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Kevin noted: New meteorite collectors on this list may be interested in 
purchasing a copy of my book dedicated to this endeavor. Please visit 
www.theartofcollectingmeteorites.com.

I agree. One of the lower priced meteorites books, and one of the better.

Clear Skies,
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[meteorite-list] Meteorites Dazzling Treasures Wichita Rock Show

2007-02-28 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Hello all,

The 54th annual show of the Wichita Gem and Mineral Society is themed 
Meteorites  Dazzling Treasures.

It will be held this year April 20-22, 2007 at the Cessna Activity Center. 
April 20th is Education Day with several of the local schools with field 
trips planned.

Meteorite Displays by the Kansas Meteorite Society, McPherson Museum, WSU 
Lake Afton Observatory (who has one of the largest Kansas meteorites 
collections) and Steve Arnold professional meteorite hunter.

At 1:00 p.m. Saturday, April 21, Greg Nowacek of Wichita State University 
and director of the Lake Afton Observatory, will discuss types of meteorites 
and show samples.

At 3:00 p.m. Saturday, April 21, an illustrated program of the historical 
impact of meteorites on our planet along with information on the current 
interest in meteorite hunting in Kansas will be given by members of the 
Wichita Gem  Mineral Society and Kansas Meteortie Society.

At 2:00 p.m. Sunday, April 22, Steve Arnold, professional meteorite hunter 
who recovered the Million Dollar Space Rock near Greensburg, KS in 2005, 
will show a video of meteorite hunting as carried recently on the Travel 
Channel hosted by Becky Worley.

A few of the sellers will be offering meteorites, including John Schooler 
and some members of the Kansas Meteorite Society.

Lots of other demonstrations including sphere making, cabbing, beading, 
arrowhead knapping, wire wrapping and more.

Adults $4.00, $1 for ages 12-17 Children under 12 are free.

Proceeds of the annual show help support a WSU Geology Scholarship.

If anyone would like to come to the show, let me know and I will mail you an 
admission discount coupon.

Clear Skies,
Mark Bostick
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