Re: [meteorite-list] NEW LUNAR monzogabbro meteorite looks like aShergottite
Hi Rob,
.. Meteorites have, at least the potential to come from
deeper than the long weathered surface materials
brought back by the Apollo crews. This all makes sense
to me, if it is a confirmed discovery.
You're right Rob,
For example the pairing group around Dho 310-breccias has some spinel,
indicating that those parts of the breccia stem from the deeper lunar crust
(20km), see here:
http://www.meteorites.ru/menu/publication-e/demidova-ms2003-e.pdf
Or take the fresher granulite NWA 3163/4483, which is suggested to be a
crustal rock, practically not sampled by the Apollo missions:
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2006/pdf/1365.pdf
Best
Martin
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Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] NEW LUNAR monzogabbro meteorite looks like
aShergottite
I am not going to claim any authority in the area of
geology but I will claim a good experience of
Anorthosite, a principle constituent of the lunar
surface. The Isle of Harris, the next island down from
me [is actually connected to my island, Lewis, by a
land bridge] has an entire mountain made from the
stuff, despite it's rare nature and I've collected
plenty of it to decorate my garden.
It weathers by ice and abrasion to the same gorgeous
white colour of the genesis rock brought back by the
Apollo 15 crew. This is not surprising since their
rock was weathered on the outside too, but that stone
was impact weathered only.
Inside the rocks from harris they are remarkably
crystaline, quite grey in appearance and U took the
liberty of borrowing a lathe[?] to polish a small
section of a chunk i rather brutally chipped off with
a chisel. Apart from the colour, it looks very like a
piece of SAU008/005, a shergottite.
In all honesty and with hindsight, it does not
surprise me that a lunar meteorite may well look like
a martian one.
Anorthosite I believe, is a plutonic rock and since
most of the white part of the moon is made from it,
the only surpise to me, after thinking about it, is
that one that looks like a shergottite has not been
discovered before.
I suggest that aeons of impacts on the moon do not
leave big enough chunks near the surface to preserve
the structure of the rock and that is why we haven't
seen one before. Having said that, we've only really
been looking for a few years.
Meteorites have, at least the potential to come from
deeper than the long weathered surface materials
brought back by the Apollo crews. This all makes sense
to me, if it is a confirmed discovery.
In a differentiated body the size of the moon and
mars, I think, in retrospect, we should not be
surprised at all.
Obviously, if this turns out to be a hoax, I absolve
myself of all I have said here on the grounds that I
have never heard of monzogabbro before. Gabbro is just
a feldspar with less than 60% or is it 40%[?]
anorthosite. What the frip does monzo mean? I thought
he was a character in the muppet show.
Rob McC
{the man with a million tons of fake moon rock}
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Re: [meteorite-list] trade updates
In a message dated 2/28/2007 7:55:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, Chicago Steve writes: Hello list.I updated my website and deleted all pics that are not for trading(Ad nauseam) Good Day Folks, Quick question. Have I missed something, or does the list-rule limiting the number of ads for meteorite sales not apply to trades as well? Best Regards, Paul Martyn Savannah __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Ebay Auctions ending tonght
Good Morning Meteorite Lovers I have auctions ending tonight, ebay ID catchafallingstar.com. Most started at 99 Cents!!! Please bid high and often!!!. http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=catchafallingstar.com Full recap with photos on Paul and Jim's website: http://www.meteorite.com/meteorites/ebay/catch_a_falling_star_meteorites.htm Thanks for looking Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Ebay Auctions ending tonght
In a message dated 3/1/2007 6:32:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Full recap with photos on Paul and Jim's website: http://www.meteorite.com/meteorites/ebay/catch_a_falling_star_meteorites.htm Great job Paul Jim! What a great addition! Sincerely, Michael Johnson SPACEROCKSINC.COM http://www.spacerocksinc.com SIKHOTE-ALIN.ORG http://www.sikhote-alin.org BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Revolving Doors Are Closing
Dear Marcin and List, Marcin wrote: I have information that Morocco closed south border with Mauritania, so another meteorite-rich area is unavailable. Military forces are on the border. Thats not funny. I just got back from Morocco Tuesday and can confirm this statement. While driving through Ouarzazate, Zagora and M'hamid, I saw several large caravans of military vehicles and hundreds of personnel heading towards the borders of Morocco, Algeria and Mauritania. I was told that with some civil unrest in M'hamid, an Algerian radio campaign broadcasting statements that M'hamid wants to leave Morocco and become part of Algeria, nomads and others freely crossing the borders and Algeria's continued claims to parts of Western Sahara have prompted the Moroccans to set up many military check points along the borders. I was told they will have night vision equipment and other high tech devices to catch those who cross either way. This can only suggest that more material will be hard to come by and the prices will continue to increase. These are both the case right now. I didn't see anything new except a couple nice stones which I have and the quantity is much less than the last time I was there. The wholesale prices directly from the nomads, dealers and those from the other side have increased dramatically and the supply is low. I heard of many of the scams some of these people are doing or try to do so basically if you do not know the person you are dealing with in Morocco, Algeria, Mauritania or other place in the region, then it is best to receive any material first (not just a sample), and then you can send whatever payment you agreed upon. Even some of the people you know and trust there will still rip you off for some reason or another. Do not take a risk, it is better to fly there yourself and deal with all of the difficulties while pursuing material. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: PolandMET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Kitt Deyarmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] PolandMET Large new-stuff update - CANYONDIABLOGRAPHITE NODULES One of those would make and AWESOME sphere :) = what ?? Are kidding ? Spheres are funny example of material vaste, especially in time when flood of meteorites stops. Slices looks better I have information that Morocco closed south border with Mauretania, so another meteorite-rich area is unavailable. Military forces are on the border. Thats not funny. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - March 01, 2007
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Ebay Auctions ending tonght
Similar presentations have been on my site for some time now. Jim's are at; http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/ebayjimstrope.html If anyone else wants to have their ebay sales featured on my site just let me know. The list of who is already featured is here; http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/ebaysales.html All I need is your ebay ID to make a page for you... and its free! Gary On 1 Mar 2007 at 7:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/1/2007 6:32:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Full recap with photos on Paul and Jim's website: http://www.meteorite.com/meteorites/ebay/catch_a_falling_star_meteorites.htm Great job Paul Jim! What a great addition! Sincerely, Michael Johnson SPACEROCKSINC.COM http://www.spacerocksinc.com SIKHOTE-ALIN.ORG http://www.sikhote-alin.org BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites in Indiana web page
Dear Friends, There is a Meteorites in Indiana web page at http://igs.indiana.edu/geology/extraTerrestrial/meteorites/index.cfm They have a list of meteorites found in Indiana. Best Regards, Paul Baton Rouge, LA Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Interesting resource
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/ On topic, because you can search for meteorite related articles. :-) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Holes in ice
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070228/COLUMNISTS03/202280381/-1/columnists Do holes in ice create holes in space theory? Published: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 In January 2001, Susan Taylor, a research scientist at the Army Corps of Engineers Cold Regions Research Laboratory in Hanover, visited Frost Pond in Dublin to investigate a mysterious hole in the ice. Local residents asked her to come because her work on snowpack research includes going to the South Pole to collect micro-meteorites and they wondered whether the 3-foot-wide gap had been caused by incoming space debris. Her verdict, at the time, as I reported it: Maybe. Her verdict now, as I found when checking in again: Maybe not. Since then . . . Ive heard of many more of these (mysterious holes in frozen ponds), Taylor said in a phone interview last week. I think its some natural phenomenon, but I have no idea how theyre formed. Frequency casts doubt on the meteorite theory, Taylor said, because not many softball-size rocks make it through the atmosphere without burning up. You may wonder why Im bringing up a 5-year-old story. Because another of those mysterious holes appeared Sunday, Feb. 18, in a small pond on Curtis Brook Road in Wilton. Its very curious indeed there just arent any tracks around it, said Nikki Andrews, who with her husband, David, have owned the property for nine years. By the time they spotted the foot-wide hole it had begun to freeze over, but as you can see from the photo taken by a neighbor, it was still plainly visible. Also visible were the lack of animal and human footprints nearby no beaver or ice-fishing fan made this hole as well as odd splash marks that stretch out in several directions. Andrews said the splash marks made slight furrows in the snow, leading them to guess that something had crashed through the ice from above. Theyre definitely on top, and thats what really surprised me, she said. I got all excited about meteorite possibilities when the Andrewses first contacted Telegraph correspondent Jessie Salisbury, who contacted me, until Taylor squelched that idea. A little Net searching found similar stories about mystery ice holes here and there, occasionally with real meteorites confirmed but mostly full of uninformed speculation (which is what we reporters do best). I couldnt figure out who else would have expertise: hydrologists? meteorologists? New Hampshire Fish Game? The New Hampshire Mutual UFO Network (maybe space aliens are abducting brook trout)? I finally fell back on the non-Internet worlds version of Web searching flipping randomly through my Rolodex and wound up talking with Wayne Ives of the state Department of Environmental Services Instream Flow Program. Ives has spent years splashing around the Souhegan and Lamprey rivers as part of a project to set standards on river usage, which is how I met him, so he knows New Hampshire waters in winter. He was intrigued and puzzled, so I e-mailed him a copy of the Andrewses photo. Thats when (pun alert) he threw cold water on my meteorite hopes: That looks to me like a melt hole, he said. As Ives explained it, above-freezing water flowing into a small pond can move in funny ways and congregate, raising the surface temperature enough to melt ice. Evidence in favor of this idea is the small size of the pond, which was man-made a couple of decades ago, and the fact that some of its banks are steep. I have seen it on small lakes especially where the banks are high around it to get a good gradient from the shore the possibility of a lot of groundwater coming in. In a shallow environment like that, it could overwhelm the system, he said. Our weird winter contributes to the possibility, said Dr. Stephen Daly of the Cold Regions lab. It was incredibly warm right up through the second week of January, with a lot of rain, so I think the groundwater levels got really, really high for winter . . .. An upwelling of groundwater could do this, he said. The water table around the pond might be higher than the water surface on the pond. This doesnt explain splash marks, however. Heres all I can think of: theyre actually signs of more melting from below. The warmer water could have oozed along cracks under the ice, partially melting the snow above those cracks from underneath in a way that looks like they were melted from above. The Andrewses allowed a neighbor to bore a few auger holes in the ice and poke around in the mud at the bottom (five feet down) with a stick. Alas, no meteorite was found, but I havent given up hope. The neighbor measured the ice at the hole and found it to be 6 inches thick, which seems a lot to be melted. I think more investigation in needed. I wonder if The Telegraph will let me rent a miniature submarine? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Holes in ice
VERY interesting Darren. I've emailed the reporter and sent him to the URL for my search in a melt-hole. I'll also be contacting Mr. Ives for his opinion too. But the conditions we saw at our hunt site are exactly as stated in the article, a small man-made pond with steep sides - in fact very steep sides. Surface of the pond well below the local water table. Sounds like we MAY have an answer. Thanks for posting this. Gary On 1 Mar 2007 at 10:14, Darren Garrison wrote: http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070228/COLUMNISTS03/202280381/-1/columnists Do holes in ice create holes in space theory? Published: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 In January 2001, Susan Taylor, a research scientist at the Army Corps of Engineer´s Cold Regions Research Laboratory in Hanover, visited Frost Pond in Dublin to investigate a mysterious hole in the ice. Local residents asked her to come because her work on snowpack research includes going to the South Pole to collect micro-meteorites - and they wondered whether the 3-foot-wide gap had been caused by incoming space debris. Her verdict, at the time, as I reported it: Maybe. Her verdict now, as I found when checking in again: Maybe not. Since then . . . I´ve heard of many more of these (mysterious holes in frozen ponds), Taylor said in a phone interview last week. I think it´s some natural phenomenon, but I have no idea how they´re formed. Frequency casts doubt on the meteorite theory, Taylor said, because not many softball-size rocks make it through the atmosphere without burning up. You may wonder why I´m bringing up a 5-year-old story. Because another of those mysterious holes appeared Sunday, Feb. 18, in a small pond on Curtis Brook Road in Wilton. It´s very curious indeed - there just aren´t any tracks around it, said Nikki Andrews, who with her husband, David, have owned the property for nine years. By the time they spotted the foot-wide hole it had begun to freeze over, but as you can see from the photo taken by a neighbor, it was still plainly visible. Also visible were the lack of animal and human footprints nearby - no beaver or ice-fishing fan made this hole - as well as odd splash marks that stretch out in several directions. Andrews said the splash marks made slight furrows in the snow, leading them to guess that something had crashed through the ice from above. They´re definitely on top, and that´s what really surprised me, she said. I got all excited about meteorite possibilities when the Andrewses first contacted Telegraph correspondent Jessie Salisbury, who contacted me, until Taylor squelched that idea. A little Net searching found similar stories about mystery ice holes here and there, occasionally with real meteorites confirmed but mostly full of uninformed speculation (which is what we reporters do best). I couldn´t figure out who else would have expertise: hydrologists? meteorologists? New Hampshire Fish Game? The New Hampshire Mutual UFO Network (maybe space aliens are abducting brook trout)? I finally fell back on the non-Internet world´s version of Web searching - flipping randomly through my Rolodex - and wound up talking with Wayne Ives of the state Department of Environmental Services´ Instream Flow Program. Ives has spent years splashing around the Souhegan and Lamprey rivers as part of a project to set standards on river usage, which is how I met him, so he knows New Hampshire waters in winter. He was intrigued and puzzled, so I e-mailed him a copy of the Andrewses´ photo. That´s when (pun alert) he threw cold water on my meteorite hopes: That looks to me like a melt hole, he said. As Ives explained it, above-freezing water flowing into a small pond can move in funny ways and congregate, raising the surface temperature enough to melt ice. Evidence in favor of this idea is the small size of the pond, which was man-made a couple of decades ago, and the fact that some of its banks are steep. I have seen it on small lakes - especially where the banks are high around it to get a good gradient from the shore - the possibility of a lot of groundwater coming in. In a shallow environment like that, it could overwhelm the system, he said. Our weird winter contributes to the possibility, said Dr. Stephen Daly of the Cold Regions lab. It was incredibly warm right up through the second week of January, with a lot of rain, so I think the groundwater levels got really, really high for winter . . .. An upwelling of groundwater could do this, he said. The water table around the pond might be higher than the water surface on the pond. This doesn´t explain splash marks, however. Here´s all I can think of: they´re actually signs of more melting from below. The warmer water could have oozed along cracks under the ice, partially melting the snow above those cracks from underneath in
[meteorite-list] kiraly meteorite
An e-mail correspondent who identified himself as John Doe in his e-mail address called my attention to this web site authored by a friend: http://kiralymeteorite.com/ This one is too good to not share. The author clearly has (1) too much time on his hands, (2) a vivid imagination, and (3) not much knowledge of meteorites. You'll need Apple QuickTime, or something like it, to play the MOV file. Randy Korotev Saint Louis, MO [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] trade updates
Whoa there, Litig8n, We're talking about the one and only CHICAGO STEVIE here. A MAN who makes his own rules, sets his own limits and digs his own holes. Truly a giant among pygmies. CHICAGO STEVIE'S biography/screenplay is currently on hold so that more of his latest unbelievable accomplishments can be included. The construction of the Fans of CHICAGO STEVIE website is also currently on hold until we see what fantastic future sales, buys and trades can be included on the site. What a thrill to daily read the voluminous emails from this master of manipulation in meteoritics. Stand back- a serious player is at work here. So, Litig8n, a little slack is in order, don't you think? If CHICAGO STEVIE wants lots of Gao he'll probably wind up with tons of Goa. CHICAGO STEVIE Fan #2, (I moved up a slot- the previous fan #2 resigned last month. The Fan #3 position is now available. Hurry to sign up while these coveted memberships are still obtainable.) Jerry . [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/28/2007 7:55:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, Chicago Steve writes: Hello list.I updated my website and deleted all pics that are not for trading(Ad nauseam) Good Day Folks, Quick question. Have I missed something, or does the list-rule limiting the number of ads for meteorite sales not apply to trades as well? Best Regards, Paul Martyn Savannah __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Steve of Chicago's listings.
We of the meteorite collecting community owe alot to Big Steve of Chicago. His trades are more like veiled donations to keep specimens flowing into the hands of a luck few who take advantage while his bogus dealing reminders to keep alert to suspicious trades. He is a random as the meteorite falls we cherish. Why without him we'd be calling Steve Arnold of Arkansas... we'll Steve Arnold and what would be the fun of that? Most of all, why if it were not for Steve we would not be blessed with so many meteorites on earth as the Gods in Heaven keep on pummetting down in an attempt to end his merry existance. Oh, how they almost got him in Forrest Park. I hope they keep trying. The day they do, that hammer will go for astromonical amounts as we'll all want a piece of the rock that did in SA of C. I'm sure that's the way he'd like to go, and be remembered. _ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=10035url=%2fst.jsptm=ysearch=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6disc=yvers=743s=4056p=5117 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve of Chicago's listings.
Dear Dr. Death, A SA hammer would out rival the Nahala dog hammer in value! DF doctor death wrote: We of the meteorite collecting community owe alot to Big Steve of Chicago. His trades are more like veiled donations to keep specimens flowing into the hands of a luck few who take advantage while his bogus dealing reminders to keep alert to suspicious trades. He is a random as the meteorite falls we cherish. Why without him we'd be calling Steve Arnold of Arkansas... we'll Steve Arnold and what would be the fun of that? Most of all, why if it were not for Steve we would not be blessed with so many meteorites on earth as the Gods in Heaven keep on pummetting down in an attempt to end his merry existance. Oh, how they almost got him in Forrest Park. I hope they keep trying. The day they do, that hammer will go for astromonical amounts as we'll all want a piece of the rock that did in SA of C. I'm sure that's the way he'd like to go, and be remembered. _ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=10035url=%2fst.jsptm=ysearch=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6disc=yvers=743s=4056p=5117 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Yeomans Advises How to Deflect an Asteroid
http://www.lacanadaonline.com/articles/2007/03/01/news/lnws-deathfromabove0301.txt Local Scientist Advises How to Deflect an Asteroid By Mary O'Keefe La Canada Valley Sun March 1, 2007 The chance that an asteroid is somewhere out in space with our name on it has fueled Hollywood plot lines and countless novels. The idea that a brave soul would climb into a spacecraft, land on the asteroid and blow it up with bravery, conviction and a plucky sidekick may not be exact science however real scientists are looking at viable ways to stop an Earthbound asteroid. Donald Yeomans, manager of NASA's Near Earth Object office at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in La Canada Flintridge, looks out into space for any and all dangers that may be heading our way. We are hit by at least 100 tons of [space] dust a day, [an asteroid] the size of a basketball hits the Earth at least once a week and the size of a Volkswagen hits every month or so, Yeomans said. It is the larger kind of asteroids that scientists will be discussing in Washington, D.C. The easiest way is to run into it with a large spacecraft, Yeomans said. This would work if the scientists have enough time, like ten or 20 years before expected impact, he said. Another possible way is to use gravity and send a spacecraft into the asteroid's path, matching its orbit. [The spacecraft] would do a gravity tug to move it out of the way, he said. Then the Hollywood scenario really comes into play: If all else fails we could use a nuclear weapon, Yeonmans said. This would be difficult, he admitted, because it would have to be employed at precisely the right time. Many argue that if you destroy the asteroid in this method, then instead of one large threat there will be many small ones. Yeomans said that would be true if it was destroyed within a year prior to impact. But [if it was destroyed] five years in advance, the vast majority would not hit [Earth]. For the past few years to present day the nemesis many scientists have been focusing on is named Apophis. The meteor, appropriately named after the an ancient Egyptian spirit of evil and destruction who lived in eternal darkness, is approximately 250 meters wide. We haven't had anything this size coming this close [in modern times], Yeomans said. The asteroid will makes its appearance on Friday, April 13, 2029. It will be a close approach, but it won't hit, Yeomans said. Scientists estimate that it will pass 24,000 miles above Earth's atmosphere. It will make another pass in 2035. This is the year that scientists were looking at closely. Two years ago the chance of Apophis hitting the Earth was a reported 1-in-5,500 chance. It is now a 1-in-45,000 chance to hit in 2035, Yeomans said. Even that [chance] will probably diminish once we look closer at it. According to Yeomans, the Near Earth Object program uses earth based telescopes and two planetary radar systems to track not only Apophis but other near Earth objects. NASA has five full time ground based telescopes looking for near Earth objects. The telescopes are pointed toward a specific region in space, then checked every 15 minutes and record any change. That data is then analyzed at the JPL program facilities. Our Near Earth Object Program is responsible for taking that data and tracing their motions. We can do this 100 years into the future, he said. If they find that an asteroid will come close or even impact the Earth, they then compute the impact probability. At any one time we have several asteroids on our risk page, Yeomans said. He equates the observation to those of hurricane predications. When a hurricane is first detected, you don't know where it is going to hit and then with more data you find if or when it is going to make land. Yeomans will join other scientists in Washington who take this threat seriously but are not yet panicking. Our principal goal [at NASA/JPL] is to find and track near Earth objects, Yeoman said, adding that the point of NASA's search of asteroids is to give scientists time to respond. If they do find that an asteroids trajectory threatens Earth they will have some theories to put into practice. We will have a few decades to do something about it, Yeomans said. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The Discovery of Eris
http://www.astrobio.net/news/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=2256mode=threadorder=0thold=0 The Discovery of Eris Astrobiology Magazine March 1, 2007 Summary (Mar 01, 2007): In this lecture, Michael Brown talks about his discovery of the dwarf planet, Eris. He also explains how scientists take a tiny point of light in the night sky and figure out how big it really is. The Discovery of Eris In 2005, Michael Brown of the California Institute of Technology and his team discovered a large body in the outer solar system. It was not the first distant object that had been found in the Kuiper Belt -- that region encircling our solar system is composed of hundreds of icy objects. But it was the largest known Kuiper Belt object, just beating out Pluto in terms of size, and so their discovery was heralded as the tenth planet. Brown's discovery, now named Eris, has since been demoted by the International Astronomical Union to a dwarf planet, along with the former ninth planet, Pluto. This re-categorization came about partly because scientists think we will discover many planet-sized globes in the Kuiper Belt. Recent discoveries of many unusual extrasolar planets in other solar systems also raised questions about what should and shouldn't be called a planet. In part three of a five-part lecture given at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Brown talked about discovering Eris. He also described how scientists manage to take a tiny point of light in the night sky and figure out how big it really is. Every time you find indications of an object in the outer solar system, you get a little charge. You go through all this data and there's nothing there, nothing there, nothing there, and then suddenly there's something that no one has ever seen before except for you. It's always a moment of excitement. Every once in awhile, the moments of excitement almost make you fall out of your chair. One day we found something that was moving really slow, slower by a factor of two anything that we'd seen before, which tells you it's essentially a factor of two further away. That's enough to make you fall out of your seat to begin with, because we'd found almost nothing at that distance in the solar system. We first named our discovery 2003 UB313. That's kind of a dumb name, so we nicknamed it Xena. But now the official name for this object is Eris. There are a couple of things you want to learn very quickly when you find one of these things. One of them is, what does its orbit look like? Is it going to fit the circular pattern of planets, or is it going to fit Pluto's crazy pattern? It turns out this one has a 560-year orbit. To track its orbit you have to look over a relatively significant chunk of its orbit. Three hours is not significant, but we have no patience for tracking it over a long time. This object was so bright it was easy to find it in everybody else's old data. Many people had seen it before but they were doing some other type of project, taking a picture for other purposes. We found it in photos dating all the way back to 1950. We're sure we could find it in Clyde Tombaugh's original photographic plates, but Lowell Observatory appears to be reluctant to let us look. I can sort of understand why; they don't want people to think Clyde Tombaugh screwed up by missing it. But it's not that he screwed up - it would've been very faint on his plates. If you knew where to look I think you could see it, but there's no way he should have noticed it. I'd like to look just for fun, but they don't answer my emails. It turns out that its orbit is even crazier and more elongated than Pluto's. What's more, the reason it's moving so slowly is because it's now on its furthest point from the sun. So it's the faintest that it ever is in its orbit. Eris is pretty bright, but if it were closer it would have been much brighter and easier to study. But the good news is if it had been closer Clyde Tombaugh would certainly have found it along with Pluto. Then that would have caused all sorts of mess. If he had found two of them out there with these kinds of orbits, people would have had some inkling that there was something like a Kuiper Belt out there, and that would've been interesting. But that would've denied us our fun. Pluto is tilted by 19 degrees compared to the discs of the other planets. Eris is tilted by 45 degrees. Nobody has a good explanation for why that is. We find other objects in the Kuiper Belt that are tilted by a few degrees - 10, 20 or even 30 degrees - but 45 degrees is more than anything else. And to find probably the biggest object in the Kuiper Belt to be tilted like that is quite a surprise. Presumably Neptune is to blame in some way. This is an interesting mystery we're trying to solve. One thing everybody wants to know is how big Eris
[meteorite-list] Enquiry to BIMS
Hi tout le Monde, I got a call from a chap in County Wexford in Ireland a couple of days ago, excited about a find he got. Now, he has had some initial analysis done by a chap called Professor David Green who works at the Manchester museum. OK - fact - Dave Greene has XRD'd it and confirmed that this item is either pure Mn or largely Mn - I am not sure which - this rules out it being extraterrestrial. I do have some pics - mainly blurry - which shows something rather like a CD to be honest with you. It was the location of the find that got this chap interested and as I know squat about the location in the USA I'd run it by you for some answers. The finder claims to have recovered this lump (looks about 200-300g in weight) from the Cascades, near the Rockies, Washington, about 75 miles NW of Seattle - I am quoting him here - I have no idea whether this geographical relationship is true. He advised that this is REALLY wild country and he was out there on a exploratory trip armed with AK47s due to bears. Again - I am just repeating what I was told. He has been contacting a friend who lives in Darrington wa state again, I quote from an email. Prof Green is certain it is NOT meteoritic, no troilite inclusions and suggested that is it the product of a manganese mine (which was my original suggesttion). However the finder is CONVINCED that the are this lump was found is totally off the beaten track. Do any of you know this area? Are there Mn mines out there? I just would like to show the finder that I have made every effort to resolve his mystery lump of metal. thanks! dave Dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS www.bimsociety.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Ebay Auctions ending tonght
Dear Gary, It's sort of similar but you should do the following: 1. Show the thumbnails at full size for better image quality. 2. Show all 15 auction items instead of only 10. 3. Correct the View all 11 items on eBay at the bottom of the page to the correct 15 items. Keep working on it! Paul Gary K. Foote wrote: Similar presentations have been on my site for some time now. Jim's are at; http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/ebayjimstrope.html If anyone else wants to have their ebay sales featured on my site just let me know. The list of who is already featured is here; http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/ebaysales.html All I need is your ebay ID to make a page for you... and its free! Gary On 1 Mar 2007 at 7:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/1/2007 6:32:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Full recap with photos on Paul and Jim's website: http://www.meteorite.com/meteorites/ebay/catch_a_falling_star_meteorites.htm Great job Paul Jim! What a great addition! Sincerely, Michael Johnson SPACEROCKSINC.COM http://www.spacerocksinc.com SIKHOTE-ALIN.ORG http://www.sikhote-alin.org BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Swapsies?
Hi, I dunno - I am obviously lusting after something big and new in my collection so I was wondering if anyone wanted to swap my special SA for something equally interesting http://tinyurl.com/2pqsk3 Have a look - I so nearly did a deal with one of our esteemed listees but I chickened out at the last minute and decided to hang onto it. Some of you may know this SA from previous threads from a few years back - hope it doesn't fatigue anyone! thanks for your indulgence - all offers WILL be considered but swapsies only as I have no money to top up a deal! (ie a nice BIG Allende for example...) Dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS www.bimsociety.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve of Chicago's listings.
Why start in on Steve. It's not like he just threatened any one with jail for searching his hole in the ground. I have dealt with Steve from common to exotic (including Lunar) and have always found him to be honest and extremely enthusiastic. He seams to have fun while chasing his latest obsessions. I wish I could be more like that. Tom BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Ebay Auctions ending tonght
Dear Paul, I stated the listings I present are similar to what you have begun presenting on your site - I choose not to copy what you do. 1) The thumbnail size is what eBay delivers to me according to my choice. 2) The feed is set for ten items - again a choice I made to keep page lengths reasonable. 3) The number of items shown at the bottom of the listing is what eBay feeds my site according to what keyword is in the code I use. Jim must have other than meteorites in his sale list and I choose to limit listings on my site to applicable items - meteorites and tektites. 4) Your tone of condescension is appalling. Keep working on it! - End of eBay war - Gary On 1 Mar 2007 at 10:49, Paul Harris wrote: Dear Gary, It's sort of similar but you should do the following: 1. Show the thumbnails at full size for better image quality. 2. Show all 15 auction items instead of only 10. 3. Correct the View all 11 items on eBay at the bottom of the page to the correct 15 items. Keep working on it! Paul Gary K. Foote wrote: Similar presentations have been on my site for some time now. Jim's are at; http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/ebayjimstrope.html If anyone else wants to have their ebay sales featured on my site just let me know. The list of who is already featured is here; http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/ebaysales.html All I need is your ebay ID to make a page for you... and its free! Gary On 1 Mar 2007 at 7:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/1/2007 6:32:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Full recap with photos on Paul and Jim's website: http://www.meteorite.com/meteorites/ebay/catch_a_falling_star_meteorites.htm Great job Paul Jim! What a great addition! Sincerely, Michael Johnson SPACEROCKSINC.COM http://www.spacerocksinc.com SIKHOTE-ALIN.ORG http://www.sikhote-alin.org BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Geologists Find Meteorite on Panama Beach
To continue the, 'oh dear, not another one' trend, I highlight... The landing was witnessed by a security guard, who described it as a ball of fire crashing down from the sky onto the sand. Fakers in any other area would not get away with this kind of crap. Not even the most basic research on what real falls are like. Too much watching TV ads. [in the UK we have a car AND a mobile f#phone one which involve meteorites which look very like this guy described, a fireball into the ground. I blame the Empire Strikes Back. Some of you will know which bit I mean] Can you imagine a swindler turning a watercolour splat in as a Monet? They'd be arrested for fraud. Rare meteorites can sell for similar sums. Why can't these jerks be locked up? It's true what they say...you get more right wing as you get older. Rob McC Can you imagine some idiot The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve of Chicago's listings.
His skull is too thick. It'd have to hit harder than terminal velocity speed. Has Steve checked in since last night? We had some pretty extreme activity here. Brilliant flashes with instantaneous house shaking rumbles. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:42:05 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve of Chicago's listings. Dear Dr. Death, A SA hammer would out rival the Nahala dog hammer in value! DF doctor death wrote: We of the meteorite collecting community owe alot to Big Steve of Chicago. His trades are more like veiled donations to keep specimens flowing into the hands of a luck few who take advantage while his bogus dealing reminders to keep alert to suspicious trades. He is a random as the meteorite falls we cherish. Why without him we'd be calling Steve Arnold of Arkansas... we'll Steve Arnold and what would be the fun of that? Most of all, why if it were not for Steve we would not be blessed with so many meteorites on earth as the Gods in Heaven keep on pummetting down in an attempt to end his merry existance. Oh, how they almost got him in Forrest Park. I hope they keep trying. The day they do, that hammer will go for astromonical amounts as we'll all want a piece of the rock that did in SA of C. I'm sure that's the way he'd like to go, and be remembered. _ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=10035url=%2fst.jsptm=ysearch=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6disc=yvers=743s=4056p=5117 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list GET FREE 5GB ONLINE STORAGE - Safely store your documents, photos and music online! Visit http://www.inbox.com/storage to find out more! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Geologists Find Meteorite on Panama Beach
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:46:54 -0800 (PST), you wrote: described, a fireball into the ground. I blame the Empire Strikes Back. Some of you will know which bit I mean] What? You mean that this DOESN'T belong in my meteorite collection? http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/Probot.jpg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Total Lunar Eclipse
TOTAL LUNAR ECLIPSE: Set aside some time this weekend for sky watching. On Saturday night, March 3rd, there's going to be a total eclipse of the Moon. This means the Moon will glide through the heart of Earth's shadow and turn a beautiful shade of sunset red. Totality can be seen from parts of all seven continents including all of Europe and Africa and the eastern half of North America. Visit http://spaceweather.com for observing tips, maps and links to live webcasts. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Enquiry to BIMS
Hi, Dave, The Olympic Penisula lies to the NW of Seattle. It is the ONLY area of the United State with deposits of manganese, presently undeveloped and still in their native state. http://www.washington.edu/uwired/outreach/cspn/Website/Resources/Curriculum/Evergreen/Documents/32.html Manganese is found in large deposits from Lake Crescent on the north, around to the eastern side of the [Olympic Mountain] range, south to Lake Quinault. Several thousand claims have been filed within this area... Geologists who have studied this region have stated that the manganese of the Olympics is sufficient to supply the needs of the Nation for many generations... Manganese is essential in all modern alloys and is therefore necessary for all industries and vital to the Nation in case of war. Aside from the deposits in the Olympic Peninsula the manganese deposits in the United States are very limited, and [the manganese] now used is imported, principally from Russia. Darrington, WA is NNE of Seattle (and curiously just down the road a bit from a town name Swede Heaven) and is just 50 miles from the Olympic National Forest. I advise your friend to quit worrying about manganese neteorites and stake a mining claim -- pronto! Unless he was claim-jumping... In that case, he might need that AK-47. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: Dave Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: metlist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:48 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Enquiry to BIMS Hi tout le Monde, I got a call from a chap in County Wexford in Ireland a couple of days ago, excited about a find he got. Now, he has had some initial analysis done by a chap called Professor David Green who works at the Manchester museum. OK - fact - Dave Greene has XRD'd it and confirmed that this item is either pure Mn or largely Mn - I am not sure which - this rules out it being extraterrestrial. I do have some pics - mainly blurry - which shows something rather like a CD to be honest with you. It was the location of the find that got this chap interested and as I know squat about the location in the USA I'd run it by you for some answers. The finder claims to have recovered this lump (looks about 200-300g in weight) from the Cascades, near the Rockies, Washington, about 75 miles NW of Seattle - I am quoting him here - I have no idea whether this geographical relationship is true. He advised that this is REALLY wild country and he was out there on a exploratory trip armed with AK47s due to bears. Again - I am just repeating what I was told. He has been contacting a friend who lives in Darrington wa state again, I quote from an email. Prof Green is certain it is NOT meteoritic, no troilite inclusions and suggested that is it the product of a manganese mine (which was my original suggesttion). However the finder is CONVINCED that the are this lump was found is totally off the beaten track. Do any of you know this area? Are there Mn mines out there? I just would like to show the finder that I have made every effort to resolve his mystery lump of metal. thanks! dave Dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS www.bimsociety.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Geologists Find Meteorite on Panama Beach
Hi, After 24 hours, still no other news reports. Assuming this is not a newsman's fantasy, the remark: appears to be mainly carbon-based could be reporter-distort for it's a carbonaceous chondrite. As for the Panamanian source, I think they have the name wrong, but there is a Panamanian government geologist named Juan de Dios Villa Mata (not Juan de Dios Villa). The wonders of Google strike again. He is, as described, a major figure in the National Mineral Resources Directorate and was the coordinator of the Panamanian portion of Canada's RadarSat2 survey in 2002. And speaking of Mystery Rocks... What ever happened to The New Jersey Iron?! Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Geologists Find Meteorite on Panama Beach http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-03/01/content_5786159.htm Geologists find meteorite on Panama beach China View February 28, 2007 PANAMA CITY (Xinhua) -- Panamanian geologists have found an meteorite at Rio Hato, a coastal town west of the capital Panama City. The meteorite fell onto Rio Hato's beach last Friday, geologist Juan de Dios Villa told the press on Wednesday. The landing was witnessed by a security guard, who described it as a ball of fire crashing down from the sky onto the sand. The 4.2 kg red object, measuring 20 cm in diameter, will be X-rayed for more details, said Villa, chief geologist at the National Mineral Resources Directorate. The meteorite shows burn marks on its exterior, and appears to be mainly carbon-based, in contrast to most meteorites, which mainly contain iron. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Parnallee, and we
Geoff wrote: Happy Birthday Parnallee! 150 years old today...My girlfriend, the lovely Cindy Sue...'s very pretty as well, and has NO chondrules at all : ) Hello Geoff, Cindy Sue and List members, So happy for Parnallee, you and Cindy Sue on this magical date now past. Please join me to see one more special person, too. There is my nice small fragment of Parnallee now depicted, originally from Ward's, with lot's of crust to lust and 'drule, though He was not crusty a tall, http://www.diogenite.com/parn.html Best wishes and Health, Doug __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lookin' For Some Park Forest
Good Evening Folks... I haven't made a a request to the list for long time.. but I have been itching like crazy for some Park Forest. Does anyone have a larger slice (..perhaps w/ both litho's) or an individual stone available for sale?? Please contact me off-list if you do... thanks! Cheers, Ryan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball in a box
List members, I am rather pleased tonight as I sit here in snowy Colorado. I have in my hands a rock that I first saw streaking across the night sky glowing more brightly than the Sun. My wife and I were returning from a friends birthday party after midnight some nine years ago when we saw a fireball streak low across the southern sky. We spent several days over the next few years searching for this meteorite we were sure must be waiting for us. Two years after the fireball a five year old boy found the first piece and the main mass of the Elbert meteorite. I am fortunate to have obtained a piece of this LL6 fall. I am wondering how many of you have a meteorite that you first saw as a glowing object flying through the sky. I know I feel unbelievably fortunate to have such a piece. I believe that three stones from elbert have been recovered and two of them are in the Denver Museum of Nature and Science. My piece came from the mass recovered by the now 12 year old Dustin Riffel. Regards, Fred Olsen, Denver __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball in a Box
List members, I am rather pleased tonight as I sit here in snowy Colorado. I have in my hands a rock that I first saw streaking across the night sky glowing more brightly than the Sun. My wife and I were returning from a friends birthday party after midnight some nine years ago when we saw a fireball streak low across the southern sky. We spent several days over the next few years searching for this meteorite we were sure must be waiting for us. Two years after the fireball a five year old boy found the first piece and the main mass of the Elbert meteorite. I am fortunate to have obtained a piece of this LL6 fall. I am wondering how many of you have a meteorite that you first saw as a glowing object flying through the sky. I know I feel unbelievably fortunate to have such a piece. I believe that three stones from elbert have been recovered and two of them are in the Denver Museum of Nature and Science. My piece came from the mass recovered by the now 12 year old Dustin Riffel. Regards, Fred Olsen, Denver __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] What happened to their website?
Hi list, Does anyone know what happened (if anything) to the Kansas Meteorite Society's website? Every time I have tried to access it I end up getting the Cannot find server message. http://www.kansasmeteoritesociety.com/ Is there something I am doing wrong, does my ISP has a problem, or is the site just gone? Thanks, Ed __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What happened to their website?
Hello Ed, Most of the content on that website was been moved to www.kansasmeteorites.com 12 hr. days at the Lawn and Garden show and starting to wear me down, and I am only two days in. Guess I'm starting to get old...;^) Doing good at promoting our meteorite themed rock show, but only meteor-wrongs brought before us so far. Mark Bostick Kansas Meteorite Society __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Ebay Auctions ending tonght
Dear Gary, I see that you have changed the focus of your site from education to the selling of your meteorites. Your All About Meteorites: title is gone and your title is now Meteorites For Sale. Since you are now selling meteorites, please abide by list rules and limit your site promotion to 1 ad per week and include AD in the subject line. Thank you, Paul Gary K. Foote wrote: Dear Paul, I stated the listings I present are similar to what you have begun presenting on your site - I choose not to copy what you do. 1) The thumbnail size is what eBay delivers to me according to my choice. 2) The feed is set for ten items - again a choice I made to keep page lengths reasonable. 3) The number of items shown at the bottom of the listing is what eBay feeds my site according to what keyword is in the code I use. Jim must have other than meteorites in his sale list and I choose to limit listings on my site to applicable items - meteorites and tektites. 4) Your tone of condescension is appalling. Keep working on it! - End of eBay war - Gary On 1 Mar 2007 at 10:49, Paul Harris wrote: Dear Gary, It's sort of similar but you should do the following: 1. Show the thumbnails at full size for better image quality. 2. Show all 15 auction items instead of only 10. 3. Correct the View all 11 items on eBay at the bottom of the page to the correct 15 items. Keep working on it! Paul Gary K. Foote wrote: Similar presentations have been on my site for some time now. Jim's are at; http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/ebayjimstrope.html If anyone else wants to have their ebay sales featured on my site just let me know. The list of who is already featured is here; http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/ebaysales.html All I need is your ebay ID to make a page for you... and its free! Gary On 1 Mar 2007 at 7:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/1/2007 6:32:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Full recap with photos on Paul and Jim's website: http://www.meteorite.com/meteorites/ebay/catch_a_falling_star_meteorites.htm Great job Paul Jim! What a great addition! Sincerely, Michael Johnson SPACEROCKSINC.COM http://www.spacerocksinc.com SIKHOTE-ALIN.ORG http://www.sikhote-alin.org BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Test Delete
Testing notebook to make sure it will work on upcoming road trip to look for black rocks with crust. Best Regards, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Last on Adamana for a while (I hope)
Hi again, Jason, I've been researching the Holbrook field and it's history for about 9 years now. Talking to old timers and listening to their stories passed down from their ancestors, etc. I've found 100's of the stones and the people I've hunted with, at least a hundred more. I think I/we have a pretty good idea now as to the orientation of the elipse and the size of the known field. From all of this, I can pretty much now tell what direction the bolide came from and which way it was headed. I can tell you now, from personal experience, it's now 3-1/2 x 1-1/2 miles. You can quote Norton, Kring, Farrington, Google all you want, but that's the sizenow. It's not growing from erosion. Now that's ridiculous (as you keep saying). Those stones didn't blow in the wind on top and sides of those dunes, nor did they go down some torential wash and end up there either. I'm sure the modern day King of Holbrook, Steve Schoner, will agree with me on this as will a few others. In fact, it was years I ago I got the approx. dimensions from him off this very list. The only reason I mentioned large chondrules in some of the original finds, is to point out the Holbrook meteorite was not homogenous in structure. There is even a picture I have of an original Foote stone that has an 11mm hole where a chondrule fell out of it's crust. However, of all my finds, I only see a size of 1mm or maybe a very few 2mm (as the largest) chondrules in the matrix. I found one stone of ~140 gms in weight, that was in fragments. It's non-crusted, exposed surfaces were brownmuch like the sides of the Adamana stone. I have a cast of the Adamana, and it's of such quality that I can see some of the chondrules. They look just like the size of the typical chondrules in the Holbrook finds to me. I appreciate all your textbook explanations as to why I'm a kook, but I really don't think the Holbrook was a textbook fall. Yes, I thought of sonic booms as the rapid succession explosions. As far as all the pressure and stress on the front of the bolide, what effect does that have on the trailing portion of the body? It appears that the Adamana nose cone made it through it's flight in the atmosphere to it's strewn field. Did I say strewn field? Sorry, my mistake. And the back side of the stone? Looks quite cracked and friable to me. The only thing about it that bothers me is the top-side crust. Now, I'm not going to tell everything I know to you or hundreds of other people. That would be cutting my own throat like I've probably already said too much already. However, I will share that I talked to the original finders of the Adamana stone last night on the phone. It was found in their horse corral and then they used it as a door stop on their barn. They know nothing of any Railroad bed filler in the corral. So, out goes the fence post storythe cowboy with the .22 ( who will remain nameless as well).the Goodwater story, etc. The good news is I have my permission to hunt on their property. I expect to come up empty-handed, but who knows? Might get lucky like Larry did. ;-) Anyway Jason, you are entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled my kooky, half-baked theory. As you said, you weren't here at the time of the fall, neither was I. But, I'm here now...that's the difference. Cheers, Dave (who is running late to work) Jason Utas wrote: Hello Dave, All, If indeed the Adamana meteorite is the front piece of the Holbrook, and I'm NOT saying it is The idea of a 'front piece' of the Holbrook mass is something that I find completely ridiculous. Stress mechanics alone state that anything at the front of the object would be subjected to much greater stress than the remainder of the stone and would therefore be the first part of the stone to fragment. There's simply no reason whatsoever for the trailing remainder of the meteorite to so violently explode, seeing as it must have been subjected to much lesser forces. If, however, it were simply a small portion of a larger 'main mass' of Holbrook that one hypothesizes must have traveled an additional number of miles past the known termination of the strewnfield, you might have the basis for some sort of multiple-fragmentation, the likes of which has *never* been seen before, with at least two distribution ellipses separated my miles of 'barren' land. I, however, find this about equally unlikely as the previously mentioned possibility, if not more so. then it would have the thickest primary crust out of any other portion of the fall. Why? There's no reason for such a 'front piece,' even supposing it could exist, to not fragment later into multiple pieces just as the remainder of the fall had. In all probability, if such a 'front piece' existed, this would most likely be a portion that broke off of it, and as such, its crust would most likely be the same as the
[meteorite-list] Meteoriteforums is down
oops! It appears meteoriteforums.com may be in administrative limbo, due to not being renewed. Is it in the process of being renewed? I sure hope so -- enqiiring minds want to know! Tracy Latimer _ Find what you need at prices youll love. Compare products and save at MSN® Shopping. http://shopping.msn.com/default/shp/?ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24102tcode=T001MSN20A0701 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Test Delete
Guess it works fine. So Adam which upcoming road trip is this? Just nosey, Moni From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Test Delete Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:00:52 -0800 (PST) Testing notebook to make sure it will work on upcoming road trip to look for black rocks with crust. Best Regards, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Find what you need at prices youll love. Compare products and save at MSN® Shopping. http://shopping.msn.com/default/shp/?ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24102tcode=T001MSN20A0701 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Moving Brenhams, Lawn Show Rock Show Coupon
Hello everybody...a few short things. I helped Philip Manning move ~1,000 lbs of Brenham meteorites this morning. I placed a couple photographs and videos at the link below. The videos are so-so as the lighting in the closed museum was not what I needed it to be and they look better if downloaded and not shown full size on the webpage...which is too large. But they are what they are. They will be removed sometime to save website space. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/2007movingbrenhams.html A couple photographs from the Lawn Garden Show. We typically have 4-5 times the people at our booth compared to those around us. One vender came over and asked what we were giving away. Quite a few people mentioned the recent Brenham television shows. The weekend should be crazy. Hopefully we can get a lot of them to attend the rock showand someone to contact us later with a meteorite...;^) http://www.meteoritearticles.com/2007LawnShow.html I also made a web page for the 2007 Wichita Meteorites Dazzling Treasures Rock Show information, and have included a coupon you can print out. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/2007GemShowInfo.html Checking my site stats, MeteoriteArticles.com is currently over 2000 pages. My annual Tucson report will be appearing shortly. Now to get some much needed sleepthe show opens earlier tomorrow. Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com www.imca.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
