[meteorite-list] The large meteorite of 1859: anyone know if this has a grain of truth?

2007-03-06 Thread chris aubeck
Was there a meteorite in this location, at that time? Best, Chris 1859 07 06 Coshocton Progressive Age [Ohio] July 6, 1859 Great Natural Phenomenon. From the Oswego Palladium. On Wednesday (yesterday) morning [June 29] the inhabitants of the towns of Boylston and Redfield, in this county,

Re: [meteorite-list] The large meteorite of 1859: anyone know if thishas a grain of truth?

2007-03-06 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Chris You have to ask? An 80-foot high meteorite covering 0.5 acre (100' x 200')? Which was originally a 22 meter iron sphere? That object, at the slowest entry speed (12 km/s), gets you a 1 MegaTon (TNT) impact and a 1650-foot crater, 352 feet deep! I think SOMEBODY would have

Re: [meteorite-list] Happy Birthday Gao-Guenie

2007-03-06 Thread mark ford
Hi Mark, Happy birthday for tomorrow! - (and its also my 33rd tomorrow too!) Mark Ford -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MARK BOSTICK Sent: 06 March 2007 02:50 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Happy

[meteorite-list] gao's birthday

2007-03-06 Thread steve arnold
Hi mark and list.What a great day it was yesterday.My 510 gram GAO came,the best and biggest I have ever had in my collection.You can view on my homepage.And best of all,it came on it's 47th birthday.What a beaut.Have a good day all. steve Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting

Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home

2007-03-06 Thread Martin Altmann
Hmm, I'm not convinced Looks like a Sikhote-shrapnel. It is always suspicious with such stories, that there are falling always iron meteorites. Those happy home owners, also in NJ, should have taken the time to look around on dealers and informational websites about the ratio stone- vs

Re: [meteorite-list] Inland Flat Lap Combo for Small Meteorites

2007-03-06 Thread Gary K. Foote
Mike, I bought one of these last week and have used it a few times already. First, the negatives. You will need a waterproof area to work in. I use a medium sized plastic tub. The case/stand doesn't contain all the water coolant. It gets splashed thru the side joins between the cutting

Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home

2007-03-06 Thread Darren Garrison
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 13:14:43 +0100, you wrote: Hmm, I'm not convinced Looks like a Sikhote-shrapnel. It is covered with rust, whatever it is. And the white areas, any guesses what those are? Corrosion? Paint? http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/03/05/news/doc45ec62e14a6c2722505892.txt

[meteorite-list] Ensisheim tkw compilation: RESULTS

2007-03-06 Thread Zelimir Gabelica
Dear list, I wish to thank many of you for having provided new or corrected data for my compilation of Ensisheim meteorite masses. Now that the reception of such data had slowed down significantly, I am ready to send you, on request, my provisional compilation list as updated by March 6, 2007.

Re: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim tkw compilation: RESULTS

2007-03-06 Thread Dave Freeman mjwy
Dear Zelimir; I enjoyed reading your post. Just a thought, when is France going to pressure all colletors/collections to give their specimens back? Dave F. Zelimir Gabelica wrote: Dear list, I wish to thank many of you for having provided new or corrected data for my compilation of Ensisheim

Re: [meteorite-list] Walter Zeitschel

2007-03-06 Thread Alexander Seidel
Folks, another Walter (...namely our very own Walter Zeitschel, aged 76 now, a man of impressive stature and authority, considered by most of us fellow countrymen to be the frontierman of modern private meteorite collecting in Germany, who once upon a time owned one of the biggest private

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[meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Goes Through Window in Illinois

2007-03-06 Thread Ron Baalke
http://media.www.dailyvidette.com/media/storage/paper420/news/2007/03/06/News/Suspected.Meteorite.Goes.Through.Window-2758413.shtml Suspected meteorite goes through window Eric Heisig The Daily Vidette March 6, 2007 At a 71-degree angle, going 60 mph, an object went through the house of

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2007-03-06 Thread Ron Baalke
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[meteorite-list] Cause of Blast in California Remains A Mystery

2007-03-06 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.whittierdailynews.com/news/ci_5362768 Cause of blast remains mystery By Sandy Mazza Whittier Daily (California) March 6, 2007 WHITTIER - Was it a bomb? An exploded gas tank? A blown transformer? Neighbors in the 6000 block of Newlin Avenue in Uptown Whittier felt their homes and

[meteorite-list] about tkw's

2007-03-06 Thread Zelimir Gabelica
Hi Matteo, For your compilation, I have an end section of Alfianello weighing 19.23 g (25% crusted), got from Martin Altmann in Ensisheim 2005, along with 2 old labels, to my utmost satisfaction (danke Martin!). If anybody else is making some compilation (Jörn Koblitz will be very happy!), I

Re: [meteorite-list] Not Proud of Tom

2007-03-06 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
sure negative Matteo --- Howard Steffic [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Considering all the positive publicity generated by Steve Arnold and Geoff Notkin in promoting meteorites, what contribution will the reserection of Proud Tom have? Will it have a positive or negative affect in the

[meteorite-list] OT lunar eclipse

2007-03-06 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
here a photo of the complete sequence http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6726/mosaicominimp2.jpg Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site:

Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home

2007-03-06 Thread greg stanley
Hmm Do they have any large factories nearby? Or perhaps some industrial plants that refine or maybe recycle scrap metal. This thing makes the NJO look quite genuine. I guess the media will go nuts for a bit, before it’s actually been tested. -Greg Stanley Darren

[meteorite-list] AD: RIZALITES FOR SALE or TRADE!!!

2007-03-06 Thread Aubrey Whymark
Hi list members, Sorry for not posting this myself! I'm having a lot of problems subscribing to the Met list. I have been a quiet reader of the list for over a year now! I’ve got a bunch of Rizalites that I’m looking to trade for some Henbury, Mundrabilla, Camel Donga or Millbillillie

Re: [meteorite-list] CAI in Tagish Lake?

2007-03-06 Thread greg stanley
All: These photo's are really interesting and it got me thinking. What do the CAI’s look like up close? Say perhaps a C-Chondrite was broken and the white CAI was exposed, would it look like glass? Or would it be milky white? Or can they vary? I have a small CV and I find the CAI’s

Re: [meteorite-list] Last on Adamana for a while (I hope)

2007-03-06 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, Firstly, all of your statements rely either on the fact that this was an atmospheric breakup in which larger (or oriented/atmospherically more streamlined) stones falling at one end and the smaller stones falling at the other. This is clearly not the case. As you stated, the Holbrook

Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home

2007-03-06 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, This looks even less like a fresh iron than the NJ object... http://www.pantagraph.com/shared-content/gallery/?galleryid=4gallery_page=0album_page=0albumid=71mediaid=1596 Regards, Jason On 3/5/07, Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[meteorite-list] AD: RIZALITES FOR SALE or TRADE!!!

2007-03-06 Thread Aubrey Whymark
Hi list members, Sorry for not posting this myself! I'm having a lot of problems subscribing to the Met list. I have been a quiet reader of the list for over a year now! I’ve got a bunch of Rizalites that I’m looking to trade for some Henbury, Mundrabilla, Camel Donga or Millbillillie

Re: [meteorite-list] Hmmers

2007-03-06 Thread Dave Freeman mjwy
Maybe they live in glass houses and do not prefer to be around stones thrown or otherwise. DF Darren Garrison wrote: On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:03:03 -0800, you wrote: Greetings all, I have come across many falls (such as Kilabo) where a fall is reported to occur throughout a

Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home

2007-03-06 Thread Steve Dunklee
I think somone was suppose to be sitting at the computer. - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home

2007-03-06 Thread Dave Freeman mjwy
Dear List;] Here is the email address of the photographer and story artist You may all wish to ask him to follow up on the story to either disprove, or prove the rock in question. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best, Dave Freeman RS WY Ron Baalke wrote:

Re: [meteorite-list] Inland Flat Lap Combo for Small Meteorites

2007-03-06 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
I have the 6 Flat Lap and work very well. The trim saw is to much little, the blade have only a 2,5 cm. high for cut slices Matteo --- Mike Bandli [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: I am curious to know if any of you own or have used the newer Inland SwapTop 6 Flat Lap and Trim Saw for small

Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home

2007-03-06 Thread Rex Kelsey
Hey List, This looks just like a piece of a I-beam that has been cut off then kicked around for a couple of years. How it got airbourne is another thing. Anybody know a teenager that can throw a couple ounces of steel 60 miles an hour from across the street? Go to any high school

Re: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim tkw compilation: RESULTS

2007-03-06 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
The same case in the work I am under build on italian meteorite, of the Alfianello, on 228 kg. tkw, only at 70 kg. its know. For not speack of Vago... Matteo --- Zelimir Gabelica [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Dear list, I wish to thank many of you for having provided new or corrected data

[meteorite-list] Ensisheim belonging

2007-03-06 Thread Zelimir Gabelica
Hi Dave, This will occur probably when all the countries will start to pressure all the world collectors, museums...to return all the pieces or art (paintings, sculptures), objects...supposedly belonging to them. But on which grouns, laws, agreements ? You bet this will never occur and

Re: [meteorite-list] The large meteorite of 1859: anyone know if thishas a grain of truth?

2007-03-06 Thread chris aubeck
Hi Sterling, Well, it wasn't because of the details but the date and place. I believe I have traced the folkloric development of this story over time, over the following thirty years in fact, until it became a UFO tale. But I wanted to know whether it had grown out of some actual fall report, as

Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Goes Through WindowinIllinois

2007-03-06 Thread MexicoDoug
Hi Chris, Rob, List, Meteorite goes through the window ... or science thrown out the window? But Chris, if you are that generous with the benefit of doubt, to be consistent, what general effect would the lift, drag, and related turbulence, have caused on this fragile lightweight during the

Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home

2007-03-06 Thread ken newton
Hi, In case you missed the video: http://www.pantagraph.com/video/2007/030507_spaceobject/ In the video, Skip mentions fusion crust and thumbprints on the side we did not see. Thanks to Dave, I wrote the David Proeber and he sent this: http://home.earthlink.net/~magellon/temp/03052007bb.jpg Best,

Re: [meteorite-list] The large meteorite of 1859: anyone know if thishas a grain of truth?

2007-03-06 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Chris, An interesting folkloric problem: do folktales evolve (or possibly devolve) from the seed of an actual event? Or the misconceptions about an actual event? I suggested the New Concord, Ohio meteorite: it fell only 15 miles away from Coshocton, on May 1, 1860, and killed a

Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home

2007-03-06 Thread Dave Freeman mjwy
Dear Ken, Is it me or is this a poor example of fusion crust and thumbprints?? I don't see it yet as I stand on my head to look at the photo up side down. I still go with hoodlums chucking a piece of foundry steel through a window, or some industrial mishap that launched

Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Goes ThroughWindowinIllinois

2007-03-06 Thread Chris Peterson
But Chris, if you are that generous with the benefit of doubt... I'm just seeking an explanation. If we discount outright fraud, the fact remains that a chunk of metal came through a window and hit a desk with enough speed to knock a hole in it. That's fairly difficult to do via any prosaic

Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home

2007-03-06 Thread Matson, Robert
Hi Ken, In case you missed the video: http://www.pantagraph.com/video/2007/030507_spaceobject/ Thanks very much for posting the video link. Now we can see that although my estimate yesterday of the computer table's depth of two feet was maybe a little high, the hole in the window is far less

Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home

2007-03-06 Thread Gary K. Foote
Has anyone noticed the impact crater on the edge of this object? If I missed a post pointing it out I apologize. Seems obvious to me... Gary Hi Ken, In case you missed the video: http://www.pantagraph.com/video/2007/030507_spaceobject/ __

Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home

2007-03-06 Thread Notkin
Dave posted: I don't see it yet as I stand on my head to look at the photo up side down. I still go with hoodlums chucking a piece of foundry steel through a window, or some industrial mishap that launched debris over a distance. Hey Dave, that was a good chuckle thanks : ) Are we going

Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite GoesThroughWindowinIllinois

2007-03-06 Thread MexicoDoug
If the object were falling at 50 m/s, an 18 mph wind would be sufficient to give it a 20° deviation The model of free fall would seem to differ greatly from an airplane in dynamic equilibrium with the force of gravity, travelling horizontally powered and depending on aerodynamically generated

Re: [meteorite-list] AUCKLAND METEORITE PHOTO

2007-03-06 Thread Timothy Heitz
DEAN, How many grams is it? Do they have any idea what it is? Regards, Tim Heitz - Original Message - From: dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 4:31 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] AUCKLAND METEORITE PHOTO Thought somebody

[meteorite-list] Wind speed, direction, house orientation for Bloomington, IL iron

2007-03-06 Thread Matson, Robert
Hi All, Looked up weather information for Bloomington, IL, for the day/time of the window-crasher: Monday, March 5th, ~9:30am Wind speed: 13.8 mph Wind direction: NNW Link: http://www.weatherunderground.com/history/airport/KBMI/2007/3/5/DailyHi

Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite GoesThroughWindowinIllinois

2007-03-06 Thread Chris Peterson
Are you saying that an infinitely dense object would be diverted 20 degrees by an 18 mph wind (in the extreme)? If not, maybe you can help me understand better your assumption on how a chunk of metal like this floats or sails on the air currents? Not exactly. An object in free fall is going to

[meteorite-list] Google Map to house location industrial plant to its northwest

2007-03-06 Thread Matson, Robert
Hi All, Here's a Google Maps link to the house location, with the industrial plant visible to its upper left (northwest): http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qhl=enq=25+partner+place,+bloomington,+ ILlayer=sll=40.474963,-89.015071sspn=0.007002,0.021157ie=UTF8z=16l

Re: [meteorite-list] Wind speed, direction, house orientation for Bloomington, IL iron

2007-03-06 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Rob, List, The industrial facility is: Sic: 204898 PURINA MILLS INC 113 S EUCLID AVE BLOOMINGTON IL 61701 309/829-1261 You will note that under that vast roof is, not a building, but an array of metal silos for grain storage. (I'm assuming you're looking at the same Google Earth view I

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2007-03-06 Thread RYAN PAWELSKI
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Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home

2007-03-06 Thread SUSA
Hi. I'm Susa, I'm 33 and from Michigan. I am a meterorite hunter and am new to this group. I enjoy reading all the posts, and look forward to sharing with all. Take care, Happy Hunting. Susa From: Steve Dunklee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Altmann [EMAIL

[meteorite-list] B.O.: Purina Iron Chow unlikely; Bloomington Airport probably ruled out

2007-03-06 Thread Matson, Robert
Hi Sterling, Well-sleuthed! I think we can rule out a cat food factory as a likely source for a flying piece of metal slag... ;-) I tried another route: I investigated flights coming in for a landing at Bloomington (KBMI) that Monday morning. There was only one at the approximate time of the