Re: [meteorite-list] HELP ! and, Who's still got their first meteorite?
Jerry, A superb and exemplary contribution to the list! A great story, informative, and exactly on-topic. The links were a great touch. Thanks and well done. I still have my first (central Nevada) find, and will be keeping it till my last rock moves on. It likely will be the last rock to go. (No small thing for a career exploration geologist with thousands of specimens!). Most of you have seen it, but for any that haven't, the story, with photos, is on our website at http://tektitesource.com/First%20Meteorite.html I may be slow. It took over 30 years in the field with a reasonably trained eye for the unusual before I plucked number one from the ground with trembling hands. Now, my best single day stands at 49 pieces (I stopped at 50, but one flunked closer inspection-). Regards, Norm --- Jerry A. Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kevin, List, That brings to mind a fond memory. It was in the late winter of '57 and the sun was barely beginning its work day in West Texas by starting to illuminate the landscape through the cold, gray, dismal, misty, low overcast morning. I was with my mineralogical mentor on yet another trip to raid the agate beds at Marfa, Texas. I was in the seventh grade at that time, so I was probably still about 13, and an eager learner about anything mineralogical. My good friend, Mr. V. C. Wiggins (a former mayor of Odessa in the '30's) had promised me for several months that he would take me to the Odessa meteorite crater some day, and this was the day. Mr. Wiggins at that time had the one and only rock shop in Odessa and it was conveniently located only a half block from the Junior High School I attended. Needless to say, most of my brown bag lunches were eaten in his shop. Then, too, he had to push me out the door in the evenings so he could close and go home. He was a fine gentleman that I will always miss. We bounced down the narrow fence line dirt road for miles in Mr. Wiggins old '51 Buick until we finally arrived at what appeared to be a large muddy hump in the otherwise flat landscape. He parked with his headlights aimed at the geological anomaly and proudly exclaimed, That's it! I'm not sure what I was expecting, but I do recall being sorely disappointed in the sight. That's just another example of reality rarely meeting expectations. But what the heck, I was thrilled to be there. I took off at a dead run up the muddy slope, promptly slipped and found myself rolling back down the muddy slope. I'm sure Mr. Wiggins was both amused and somewhat wary at the thought of me getting back into his Buick as a mud blob. We worked that out later with old newspapers from his trunk. Once inside the floor of the crater, I was advised about more of the crater's history and given a mental picture of what I should be looking for. In the excitement of finally being there, I had forgotten to bring my rock pick or flashlight from the car. So I took off across the crater floor kicking at muddy lumps. All but one of those lumps turned out to be caliche. This one piece that wasn't caliche I took over to Mr.Wiggins for identification. It was about seven inches long by three inches wide with tapered ends. Turns out that it was indeed a part of the meteorite. A very rusty, crumbly part of the old meteorite, but it was mine. I then moved to the southern side of the crater and began clawing away at it with a broken branch of old mesquite. After sifting through the muck with my cold fingers I found a small black piece of something that obviously wasn't the prevalent caliche. Another fast run over to the expert and I got the good news that this was a keeper. I turned to resume my muckraking for more keepers but was cut short by the order to return to the Buick so we could get on with the business of the day which was to extract as much of that fine Marfa agate as humanly possible and still get back to Odessa without the expense of spending the night on the road somewhere. As was typical of our agate hunting trips, despite our best intentions of leaving the hunting area earlier so as to get home earlier, we left well after dark for the three hour trip back to Odessa. We bounced along with a trunk and rear floorboard full of the prized agate, and my two pieces of the Odessa meteorite. As usual, the headlights of the Buick were pointlessly pointed towards the stars. That always made our trips more exciting by only having a faint glow of light on the highway. So, to keep this short (HA), yes, I still have my first pieces of the fabulous Odessa meteorite. Wouldn't trade them for Mr. Arnold's new Brenham. Well, maybe the shale piece. The solid piece that I recovered weighed in at 2.1g. Never weighed the rust. I surely had one of the prized specimens that Prof. Ninninger and the earlier hunters missed. The crater is
Re: [meteorite-list] MOON ROCKS! (AD)
Real cute Mr. Michael but you ain't no Tom. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:46:10 -0700 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] MOON ROCKS! (AD) Hi all, We all can tell stories about taking a newbee friends or relative out to a strewn field and they find a meteorite. Try to beat what my sister came up with. moon rocks! They are about the size of a silver dollar. and she is selling them for $7 to list members - which INCLUDES the shipping! (You can order through me via paypal at my return address on this post - I make nothing on them - just a favor to her - be sure to include your address). Check them out here: http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2733787920035542431GcHumT Best wishes, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ONE-CLICK WEBMAIL ACCESS - Easily monitor access your email accounts! Visit http://www.inbox.com/notifier and check it out! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] taza flow lined buttons
Hi list.Does anyone have any TAZA flow lined buttons,around 20 grams or smaller?I would like to add a few to my collection.Let me know offlist. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! www.chicagometeorites.net Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad - eBay auctions closing shortly
Greetings I have a number of auctions closing shortly including Martian, Lunar (currently at $2.25), Karoonda, Vigarano, a nice banded Libyan Desert Glass, Tagish Lake and others. Check them out at: http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=katy2kary -- Eric Olson 7682 Firethorn Dr Fayetteville, NC 28311 http://www.star-bits.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] some meteorite videos
Hi crew, here are the links to a couple of YouTube videos about meteorites: http://www.maury.it/tmp/oacl/first_meteorite_find.mpg http://mailrr.aruba.it/cgi-bin/sqwebmail?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.maury.it%2Ftmp%2Foacl%2Ffirst_meteorite_find.mpgtimestamp=1173705492md5=9D02lm6an81WpPD%2FPpOisA%3D%3D http://www.maury.it/tmp/oacl/TunguskaExplosion30t.avi http://mailrr.aruba.it/cgi-bin/sqwebmail?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.maury.it%2Ftmp%2Foacl%2FTunguskaExplosion30t.avitimestamp=1173705492md5=9D02lm6an81WpPD%2FPpOisA%3D%3D They have been converted to common formats, and should run with normal video software, but in case of problems they can easily be run with VLC media player. Ciao ciao :) Leandro IMCA #2689 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re Threats from MrGregory
Well said Dean, until someone punches me in the nose or steals my meteorites or radioactive specimens, I will only smile. All's fair in love, war and collecting meteorites, as long as the local laws are not circumvented. Yes, informatoin has been gleaned from the, eh, discussions. Carry on. While technically two rules have been violated (Posting personal messages and attacks) the content in my opinion more than justifies it. After all, if there is somebody who is going to make an effort to physically hard somebody who goes meteorite hunting or somehow hamper a legitimate meteorite search a lot of people would be interested and it is certainly meteorite related. I for one would like to know what certain people is capable of doing. Wither this is getting the mafia after you when searching allende in mexico, hiring police to cause one trouble in morocco, setting people up with the government to get arrested in oman ect, I would like to know so as to avoid contact with these people and to take any necessary action should I decide to take part in these search activities. You could I guess argue that this whole topic is not meteorite related since there are no meteorites except in one mad mans delusions, but given that meteorites and threats are in the same thread I am glad that I have as many of the details as possible of the situation. After all, I have been to arequipa peru dozens of times (And I actually had the crater in question investigated - although I never posted anything to the list concerning my investigation since there are obviously no meteorites in a bomb crater that has volcanic basalt and scrapnel scattered around it) but I do know from mikes email that I wouldent try and talk to the mad man of arequipa if I go to arequipa again. When he was a new misinformed meteorite lover you might want to talk to somebody and maybe explain things about meteorites to them. A potentially violent criminal who wont listen to comen sense about meteorites is a totally different matter altogether. I say there was nothing wrong with mikes posting and it is informative to at least some members. The people who are not interested of course wont read my email since they have been deleting emails from this thread long ago. People with an interest will read it. Sincerely DEAN Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396546091 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search Now! www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau_t=757263760_r=Hotmail_EndText_Dec06_m=EXT __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: ebay auctions ending
Hi! I have 25 ebay auctions ending in about 2 hours. If you like please take a look and follow this link: http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=meteoriten In case you are bidding Good Luck and thank you for looking! Best Regards Moritz Karl __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nulles (Spain) meteorite
Hi Pierre-Marie, I think Nulles was first reported here: ESCOSURA L. DE LA (1852) Análisis del aerolito que cayó en las immediaciones del pueblo de Nulles de la provincia de Tarragona en 5de noviembre de 1851. Rev. minera, met. y ing. Madrid 3, 246-247, 407-410. Cheers, Jörn Koblitz / MetBase -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag von Pelé Pierre-Marie Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. März 2007 15:42 An: MeteoriteList Betreff: [meteorite-list] Nulles (Spain) meteorite Hello, I'm desperately searching for information about the trajectory and strewnfield of the Nulles meteorite which fell in 1851 in Spain. Does anyone have detailed information, old publication about this ? The only reference I found is Lithologia meteorica from Profesor Joaquin Balcells, Barcelona, 1854 Many thanks, Pierre-Marie Pele www.meteor-center.com __ _ Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses http://fr.answers.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Object That Hit Illinois Home Note Likely A Meteorite
http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/03/09/news/doc45f1ebb102e37418649115.txt%3E Object that hit home not likely a meteorite By M.K. Guetersloh Pantagram (Bloomington, Illinois) March 9, 2007 BLOOMINGTON - As testing continues it is looking more and more likely the metal object that crashed through a Bloomington couple's home may be something manmade instead of a meteorite. The object, nearly a pound in weight and about the size of a deck of cards, punched a hole in a window and the computer desk Monday morning at David and Dee Riddle's house, 25 Partner Place. The steep angle with which it hit the house and the density of the object led professors from Illinois State University to investigate it as a possible meteorite. They also could not rule out something manmade, however. Robert Skip Nelson, an ISU geology professor, said Friday that because of testing so far, the object is looking less and less like it is a meteorite. But we still want to test it to be sure,â Nelson said. We can't rule it out yet. With ISU's spring break starting Monday, Nelson said the object will be sent off for testing next month to U.S. Geological Survey's center in Flagstaff, Ariz. Dee Riddle said it does not matter to her if it is or is not a meteorite; she just wants to know what it is. I really don't have any feelings one way or another, she added. Dee Riddle operates a home day-care center and was just on the other side of the bedroom wall when it crashed into the house. Initially she thought a bathroom mirror had broken. In the meantime, Dee Riddle said representatives from Allstate Insurance Co. have been out to the house. They determined the damage is covered by their homeowners' policy, she said. No matter what it is, Nelson said the department has been able to do some practical work in the case. We are going to get some good science out it, Nelson said. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Light in Night Sky in Canada Lights Up Switchboard
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/190806 Light in night sky lights up switchboard Joanna Smith Toronto Star March 11, 2007 Bright flashes of light streaking across the sky Sunday night had some Greater Toronto residents calling police to find out what was going on. Police switchboards in Toronto, York and Durham Regions reported receiving several calls from people who had observed a fireball in the night sky between 8 and 8:30 p.m. The mysterious object was likely a meteoroid - or shooting star - which leaves a trail of light, called a meteor, as it burns and breaks up while falling from space through the Earth's atmosphere, police said. There is no word yet on whether anyone has found a meteorite-what is left of the object if and when it hits the Earth's surface. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Church Organist Required for Jungle Meteorite Hunt
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article1499849.ece Church organist required for jungle meteorite hunt Jack Malvern The Times (United Kingdom) March 12, 2007 Wanted: one organist for concert in remote Bolivian jungle accessible only by raft. Must be prepared to face rapids, alligators and 30C (86F) temperatures. Ability to swim a bonus. Church organists are rarely an essential part of expeditions into the Amazonian rainforest, but a team of scientists about to embark on a journey to a far-flung meteorite impact site in Bolivia believe that one will be key to achieving their mission. Colonel John Blashford-Snell, a professional adventurer who made headlines in 2000 when he took a grand piano 350 miles (560km) along the Amazon River as a present for the Wai Wai tribe in Guyana, intends to deliver a pedal organ to the isolated Ojaki community as a way of persuading its people to help his expedition. The colonel's team, which will also help to install a clean water supply and perform medical duties for the Ojaki people, are reliant on local expertise to build bridges to the impact site, which is five miles wide. The locals are religious and have asked the visitors to install an organ in their newly built church. The organ - a pedal-powered Harmonium donated by St James's church in Milton Abbas, Dorset - will be flown to La Paz and then transported by lorry 120 miles over the Andes to the Beni river. It will then be loaded on to a 59ft (18m) boat for a 430-mile journey over rapids and more dangerous, man-made hazards. Colonel Blashford-Snell, 70, told The Times that the main obstacle would be logs floated down the river by timber companies. You get around those by gunning the engine before pulling the prop out of the water, he said. God willing, your bow comes out of the water and you shoot over the log and land on the other side. Natural hazards include alligators, although these are not a problem unless you step on them, he said. The explorer made a reconnaissance expedition two years ago but had to stop within seven miles of the crater when his party got down to their last bottle of water. He suggests that any organist willing to join should be prepared to face discomforts such as swarms of bees and 30C temperratures. The organist should be fit enough to catch a bus and it would be very nice if he or she could swim, he said. The successful applicant will also be expected to pay a share of the costs of about £2,000. The team hopes to be the first to bring back traces of the meteorite, which is estimated to have landed between 5,000 and 30,000 years ago. It will also try formally to identify the Andean double-nosed tiger hound, a dog first observed in Bolivia in 1913 by Percy Fawcett, a British adventurer. Derring-do o Colonel John Blashford-Snell is a former officer in the Royal Engineers who helped to found Operation Raleigh. He will lead the 20-person team on the two-month trip on June 21 o He has twice been shot at by Ethiopian bandits, bitten by a vampire bat and ate a Panamanian spider monkey o Blashford-Snell is the founder of the Scientific Exploration Society o He led the first descent of the Ethiopian Blue Nile in 1968 and the first vehicle crossing of the Darien Gap in Panama in 1972 o He invented a jungle hat that is mosquito-repellent, Teflon-coated and has a refrigerated headband o He said recently: I often say at 6am as I climb out of a soaking wet hammock, 'God, I must be mad. Why am I doing this?' __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] UK Residents Woken by Sonic Boom
http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/generalnews/display.var.1252956.0.residents_woken_by_sonic_boom.php Residents woken by sonic boom By Andy Chiles The Argus (United Kingdom) March 12, 2007 A freak boom in the middle of the night set off car alarms and woke residents. Student Jason North, 23, was one of several people to be disturbed by the noise heard along the south coast in the Peacehaven area at 1am today. Mr North, from Telscombe Cliffs, said: It was like a sonic boom. It sounded a long way off but it made enough force to make the car alarms go off. advertisement Residents in Saltdean and Peacehaven also reported hearing the noise. Police, fire and coast guard services were at a loss to explain the incident. They said there had been no reports of any explosions on land or at sea. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] A modest proposal
I have a modest recommendation as a possible cure for what ails the list. With all due respect, in one word: lithium. The proper minimal dose has few side effects and restores intelligent people to their stable and impressive natural state, having removed them from the emotional roller coaster they were trapped on, and in the process, released us (the captive audience) as well. But the choice for treatment is not ours. What we can choose to do is upgrade the editing of the list to park emotional tirades and other flame mail in a sub directory. A few word filters would do the job (torture, stupid, prison, kill you, etc.) without damaging our freedom of speech. After reviewing the useful scientific and collecting discussions, we could opt to peek into the Meteoric Tantrum Event sub directory for the latest ego battles. We can't turn off the noise, which has grown and has been tolerated and thus nurtured by this list for years. So let's just park the kids in the corner for a while. We could keep scores, place wagers, etc. Remember this list's good old days when the palientologists and geologists and planetary scientists would battle over theories about mass extinction events? My Best Regards to the list, David Priest __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A modest proposal
I think this is an excellent suggestion. We will need a Judges Panel for scoring 'Style' points. Add in frequency and length by word count and we could work out a viable scoring system. I don't know about wagers though. Isn't sports betting illegal here in the gool ol' US of A? :) Gary So let's just park the kids in the corner for a while. We could keep scores, place wagers, etc. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re ThreatsfromMr Gregory
...for this guys is the potential profit, nothing else. Apart from his predator attitude... Hi Armando, Please do me a favour. I want you to today to tell this phrase into the face of your baker, your butcher, your doctor, your dentist, your barber, your newspaperman, your greengrocer... Tomorrow you can practise at the post office, at the bank and in the supermarket. I have no idea, where you take the chutzpah from, to call in from a meteorite dealer much higher ethical and moral standards, than from all retailers and service providers, from whose you get your products and services day by day (who often have a ways more easier job than a meteorite dealer or hunter). And please be so kind to report your experiences here to the list! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Armando Afonso Gesendet: Samstag, 10. März 2007 23:12 An: Michael L Blood; Michael Farmer; Meteorite List Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re ThreatsfromMr Gregory Dear friends, From time to time, I take the time and patience to read what is happening in this list. Invariably, Mike Farmer is exchanging insults with someone... If this list was something near neutrality, this gentleman would have been banned long, long ago... Anyway, from a certain distance, this fights can be very amusing, too. Pitty that the only interest of the meteorites for this guys is the potential profit, nothing else. Apart from his predator attitude, arrogance, irritability and scientific ignorance, what are his atributes? AA __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] All List members..... a suggestion!
Hi List! In my opinion the last days here on the list were (mostly) boring for me! This is a meteorite-list, this means for me talking about meteorites and related things. In my opinion this is not a place for personal fights, insults or other conflicts, also not if they are in a way meteorite related. So here is my suggestion: If someone wants to offer meteorites here (which is also meteorite related, but not the sense of the list), he has to post an AD in the subject line, so why we shouldn't do something like that with the kind of post we had in the last days? So every body can choose if he/she wants to read this sort of posts or not. This will provide us for a lot of reposts, were people say that such posts are NOT OK or OK because and what ever more.. Why we don't use the key STRESS when ever we post something to the list, which is a private problem, a business problem, a problem with someone's attitude or something like that? This works (nearly) perfect in the case of offers, why not here? Best Wishes Ingo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Martin Altmann Gesendet: Montag, 12. März 2007 17:58 An: 'Armando Afonso'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike reThreatsfromMr Gregory ...for this guys is the potential profit, nothing else. Apart from his predator attitude... Hi Armando, Please do me a favour. I want you to today to tell this phrase into the face of your baker, your butcher, your doctor, your dentist, your barber, your newspaperman, your greengrocer... Tomorrow you can practise at the post office, at the bank and in the supermarket. I have no idea, where you take the chutzpah from, to call in from a meteorite dealer much higher ethical and moral standards, than from all retailers and service providers, from whose you get your products and services day by day (who often have a ways more easier job than a meteorite dealer or hunter). And please be so kind to report your experiences here to the list! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Armando Afonso Gesendet: Samstag, 10. März 2007 23:12 An: Michael L Blood; Michael Farmer; Meteorite List Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re ThreatsfromMr Gregory Dear friends, From time to time, I take the time and patience to read what is happening in this list. Invariably, Mike Farmer is exchanging insults with someone... If this list was something near neutrality, this gentleman would have been banned long, long ago... Anyway, from a certain distance, this fights can be very amusing, too. Pitty that the only interest of the meteorites for this guys is the potential profit, nothing else. Apart from his predator attitude, arrogance, irritability and scientific ignorance, what are his atributes? AA __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Cheapest Place for Riker Mounts?
I am looking for the best deal on 4 x 3 Rikers for meteorites. I need ~30 of them. eBay has them for ~$2.25 shipped. Is there a better deal out there? Kind regards, Mike Bandli __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cheapest Place for Riker Mounts?
Mike asked I am looking for the best deal on 4 x 3 Rikers for meteorites. I need ~30 of them. eBay has them for ~$2.25 shipped. Is there a better deal out there? I don't know about better deal, but I imagine the Jensen's can supply them at almost the same cost, there cost is very close to what you have noted, and they can likely supply an order of 30. Boxes of Rikers are usually 24. http://www.jensenmeteorites.com/ Click on supplies. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com www.imca.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cheapest Place for Riker Mounts?
Thanks Mark. I don't know how I missed that one. I'd much rather support a fellow collector. BTW, he has them for $1.70 ea. for a case of 24. Great deal! Kind regards, Mike Bandli -Original Message- From: MARK BOSTICK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 11:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Cheapest Place for Riker Mounts? Mike asked I am looking for the best deal on 4 x 3 Rikers for meteorites. I need ~30 of them. eBay has them for ~$2.25 shipped. Is there a better deal out there? I don't know about better deal, but I imagine the Jensen's can supply them at almost the same cost, there cost is very close to what you have noted, and they can likely supply an order of 30. Boxes of Rikers are usually 24. http://www.jensenmeteorites.com/ Click on supplies. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com www.imca.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Sikhote-Alin web site
In a message dated 3/11/2007 8:54:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've tried to reach this site twice since it was first announced. Anyone else unable to reach it? __ Looks like you're the only one with that problem Gary! Sincerely, Michael Johnson SPACEROCKSINC.COM http://www.spacerocksinc.com SIKHOTE-ALIN.ORG http://www.sikhote-alin.org BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NASA's Near-Earth Object Report to Congress
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/neo/report2007.html Near-Earth Object Survey and Defintion Analysis of Alternvatives Report to Congress March 2007 Note: The full report is available here (PDF - 790K): http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/171331main_NEO_report_march07.pdf SUMMARY Section 321 of the NASA Authorization Act of 2005 (Public Law No. 109-155), also known as the George E. Brown, Jr. Near-Earth Object Survey Act, directs the NASA Administrator to transmit an initial report to Congress not later than one year after the date of enactment that provides: (1) an analysis of possible alternatives that NASA may employ to carry out the survey program of near-Earth Objects (NEO), including ground- based and space-based alternatives with technical descriptions; (2) a recommended option and proposed budget to carry out the survey program pursuant to the recommended option; and (3) an analysis of possible alternatives that NASA could employ to divert an object on a likely collision course with Earth. The objectives of the George E. Brown, Jr. NEO Survey Program are to detect, track, catalogue, and characterize the physical characteristics of NEOs equal to or larger than 140 meters in diameter with a perihelion distance of less than 1.3 AU (Astronomical Units) from the Sun, achieving 90 percent completion of the survey within 15 years after enactment of the NASA Authorization Act of 2005. The Act was signed into law by President Bush on December 30, 2005. A study team, led by NASA's Office of Program Analysis and Evaluation (PAE), conducted the analysis of alternatives with inputs from several other U.S. government agencies, international organizations, and representatives of private organizations. The team developed a range of possible options from public and private sources and then analyzed their capabilities and levels of performance including development schedules and technical risks. Key Findings for the Survey Program: * The goal of the Survey Program should be modified to detect, track, catalogue, and characterize, by the end of 2020, 90 percent of all Potentially Hazardous Objects (PHOs) greater than 140 meters whose orbits pass within 0.05 AU of the Earth's orbit (as opposed to surveying for all NEOs). * The Agency could achieve the specified goal of surveying for 90 percent of the potentially hazardous NEOs by the end of 2020 by partnering with other government agencies on potential future optical ground-based observatories and building a dedicated NEO survey asset assuming the partners' potential ground assets come online by 2010 and 2014, and a dedicated asset by 2015. * Together, the two observatories potentially to be developed by other government agencies could complete 83 percent of the survey by 2020 if observing time at these observatories is shared with NASA's NEO Survey Program. * New space-based infrared systems, combined with shared ground-based assets, could reduce the overall time to reach the 90 percent goal by at least three years. Space systems have additional benefits as well as costs and risks compared to ground-based alternatives. * Radar systems cannot contribute to the search for potentially hazardous objects, but may be used to rapidly refine tracking and to determine object sizes for a few NEOs of potentially high interest. Existing radar systems are currently oversubscribed by other missions. * Determining a NEO's mass and orbit is required to determine whether it represents a potential threat and to provide required information for most alternatives to mitigate such a threat. Beyond these parameters, characterization requirements and capabilities are tied directly to the mitigation strategy selected. Key Findings for Diverting a Potentially Hazardous Object (PHO): The study team assessed a series of approaches that could be used to divert a NEO potentially on a collision course with Earth. Nuclear explosives, as well as non-nuclear options, were assessed. * Nuclear standoff explosions are assessed to be 10-100 times more effective than the non-nuclear alternatives analyzed in this study. Other techniques involving the surface or subsurface use of nuclear explosives may be more efficient, but they run an increased risk of fracturing the target NEO. They also carry higher development and operations risks. * Non-nuclear kinetic impactors are the most mature approach and could be used in some deflection/mitigation scenarios, especially for NEOs that consist of a single small, solid body. * Slow push mitigation techniques are the most expensive, have the lowest level of technical readiness, and their ability to both travel to and divert a threatening NEO would be limited unless mission durations of many years to decades are possible. *
Re: [meteorite-list] Who's still got their first meteorite?
My first was a generous gift of a 6 gram Gold Basin from John Blennet. None could be more exciting in anticipation, reception and examination Jerry Flaherty __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cheapest Place for Riker Mounts?
Here's the best buy I've found. http://members.aol.com/janiew48/black.html Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:22:15 -0700 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Cheapest Place for Riker Mounts? Thanks Mark. I don't know how I missed that one. I'd much rather support a fellow collector. BTW, he has them for $1.70 ea. for a case of 24. Great deal! Kind regards, Mike Bandli -Original Message- From: MARK BOSTICK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 11:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Cheapest Place for Riker Mounts? Mike asked I am looking for the best deal on 4 x 3 Rikers for meteorites. I need ~30 of them. eBay has them for ~$2.25 shipped. Is there a better deal out there? I don't know about better deal, but I imagine the Jensen's can supply them at almost the same cost, there cost is very close to what you have noted, and they can likely supply an order of 30. Boxes of Rikers are usually 24. http://www.jensenmeteorites.com/ Click on supplies. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com www.imca.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NASA's Near-Earth Object Report to Congress
Hi Ron, all - I attended the Planetary Defense Conference last week and watched as Morrison et al. asserted yet once again that comets apprise only 1% of the impact hazard on the basis of absolutely no evidence at all other than their own wishful thinking. I certainly hope NASA has something in place to track the fragments of Comet Schwassmann Wachmann 3 on their passages in 2011, 2017, and 2022. Thanks for your post on the report. good hunting, Ed --- Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/neo/report2007.html Near-Earth Object Survey and Defintion Analysis of Alternvatives Report to Congress March 2007 Note: The full report is available here (PDF - 790K): http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/171331main_NEO_report_march07.pdf SUMMARY Section 321 of the NASA Authorization Act of 2005 (Public Law No. 109-155), also known as the George E. Brown, Jr. Near-Earth Object Survey Act, directs the NASA Administrator to transmit an initial report to Congress not later than one year after the date of enactment that provides: (1) an analysis of possible alternatives that NASA may employ to carry out the survey program of near-Earth Objects (NEO), including ground- based and space-based alternatives with technical descriptions; (2) a recommended option and proposed budget to carry out the survey program pursuant to the recommended option; and (3) an analysis of possible alternatives that NASA could employ to divert an object on a likely collision course with Earth. The objectives of the George E. Brown, Jr. NEO Survey Program are to detect, track, catalogue, and characterize the physical characteristics of NEOs equal to or larger than 140 meters in diameter with a perihelion distance of less than 1.3 AU (Astronomical Units) from the Sun, achieving 90 percent completion of the survey within 15 years after enactment of the NASA Authorization Act of 2005. The Act was signed into law by President Bush on December 30, 2005. A study team, led by NASA's Office of Program Analysis and Evaluation (PAE), conducted the analysis of alternatives with inputs from several other U.S. government agencies, international organizations, and representatives of private organizations. The team developed a range of possible options from public and private sources and then analyzed their capabilities and levels of performance including development schedules and technical risks. Key Findings for the Survey Program: * The goal of the Survey Program should be modified to detect, track, catalogue, and characterize, by the end of 2020, 90 percent of all Potentially Hazardous Objects (PHOs) greater than 140 meters whose orbits pass within 0.05 AU of the Earth's orbit (as opposed to surveying for all NEOs). * The Agency could achieve the specified goal of surveying for 90 percent of the potentially hazardous NEOs by the end of 2020 by partnering with other government agencies on potential future optical ground-based observatories and building a dedicated NEO survey asset assuming the partners' potential ground assets come online by 2010 and 2014, and a dedicated asset by 2015. * Together, the two observatories potentially to be developed by other government agencies could complete 83 percent of the survey by 2020 if observing time at these observatories is shared with NASA's NEO Survey Program. * New space-based infrared systems, combined with shared ground-based assets, could reduce the overall time to reach the 90 percent goal by at least three years. Space systems have additional benefits as well as costs and risks compared to ground-based alternatives. * Radar systems cannot contribute to the search for potentially hazardous objects, but may be used to rapidly refine tracking and to determine object sizes for a few NEOs of potentially high interest. Existing radar systems are currently oversubscribed by other missions. * Determining a NEO's mass and orbit is required to determine whether it represents a potential threat and to provide required information for most alternatives to mitigate such a threat. Beyond these parameters, characterization requirements and capabilities are tied directly to the mitigation strategy selected. Key Findings for Diverting a Potentially Hazardous Object (PHO): The study team assessed a series of approaches that could be used to divert a NEO potentially on a collision course with Earth. Nuclear explosives, as well as non-nuclear options, were assessed. * Nuclear standoff explosions are assessed to be 10-100 times more effective than the non-nuclear alternatives analyzed in this study. Other techniques involving the surface or subsurface use of
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - March 12, 2007
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[meteorite-list] Who's still got their first meteorite?
Jerry Flaherty writes: My first was a generous gift of a 6 gram Gold Basin from John Blennert. None could be more exciting in anticipation, reception and examination. Hello Listees and Listoids, Like so many others, I have to find my first own meteorite yet. But the first meteorite I purchased was a 15-gram cut + etched Mundrabilla slice from Walter Zeitschel - see Meteorite Times interview, May 2002, Vol.1, No.2. Of course, I still have this Little Australian. P.S.: If you are interested in more What was your first meteorite?, the Meteorite Times Magazine interviews (Meteorite People) are an excellent source because virtually all of those interviewed were asked this question! P.S.S.: Speaking of John Blennert's generous gifts, I would like to add that one of my most beautiful Gold Basin meteorites is such a generous gift from John. He sent it (two of them,...to be exact!) in May 1999 and it arrived just a few days after my 54th birthday anniversary. It weighs a whopping 76 grams, it still has traces of its original black fusion crust beneath a thin layer of caliche, and it is definitely flight-marked. Another meteorite that will never leave this collection! Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball reports coming in from Michigan
In a message dated 3/11/2007 8:00:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've received three fireball reports in the last few minutes from Michigan and Ontario. I usually consider multiple out-of-area (Colorado) reports significant since I don't get many. The event was at 1955-2000 EDT, roughly north to south, blue-green with lots of fragmentation, terminal point approximately over Detroit. Definitely east of South Bend, and west of London. The path may have crossed most of the Lower Peninsula. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Hello Chris, List, If anyone receives more information regarding this event, please contact me on or off list. Thanks, Larry BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Impact Origin of Carolina Bays Argued For at 2007AGU Meeting
Hi Paul, Sterling, all - This dispute is exactly why I did not include the Carolina Bays as evidence of impact in my book Man and Impact in the Americas. As to how the Bays formed, it's still an open question. On the other hand, the peoples remembered exactly how the Alaskan and Siberian Mucks were formed, and they also remembered other well evidenced impacts. Now did we ever get a good date for the Campo de Cielo fall? good hunting, Ed E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas --- Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sterling K. Webb wrote on Sun March 11, 2007 Hi, List, Thanks, Paul, for those links. You and the list might be interested to know that there is a competing session Carolina Bays. A more mainstream point of view on their formation will be given at the Geological Society of America Southeastern Section-56th Annual Meeting (29-30 March 2007) in a session titled S6. Geology and Ecology of Carolina Bays at: http://gsa.confex.com/gsa/2007SE/finalprogram/session_18800.htm The paper in this session include 1. The Sedimentology and Ages of Carolina Bays Sand Rims by Dr. Ivestor at: http://gsa.confex.com/gsa/2007SE/finalprogram/abstract_119179.htm This abstract states in part: Water-lain pebbles intercalated with eolian sands indicate that these are typical shoreline deposits resulting from fluctuations in water level. At individual bays where concentric rims occur, dating has established that rims are progressively younger toward the center of the bay, reflecting a regressive sequence and confirming that the bays are not single-event features but evolve as a result of processes active episodically over a long period of time. Active shorelines and associated eolian deposition occurred during marine isotope stage (MIS) 2 to late MIS 3 (~12 to 50 ka), MIS 4 to very late MIS 5 (60-80 ka), and late MIS 6 (120 to 140 ka) based on a cumulative total of 45 OSL dates. These age ranges also correspond with the ages of other eolian landforms in the Coastal Plain, including sand sheets and dunefields, and suggest a climatic threshold was crossed during the transition toward glacial stadials, initiating both bay and dune activity. Another abstract is Geomorphic History of th Carolina Bays by RAy Kaczorowski at: http://gsa.confex.com/gsa/2007SE/finalprogram/abstract_118906.htm Needless to say, this activity will be quite fun to watch as all of these ideas are sorted out. Best Regards, Paul H. It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] My First Meteorite
In a message dated 3/12/2007 4:14:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jerry Flaherty writes: My first was a generous gift of a 6 gram Gold Basin from John Blennert. None could be more exciting in anticipation, reception and examination. Hello Listees and Listoids, Like so many others, I have to find my first own meteorite yet. But the first meteorite I purchased was a 15-gram cut + etched Mundrabilla slice from Walter Zeitschel - see Meteorite Times interview, May 2002, Vol.1, No.2. Of course, I still have this Little Australian. P.S.: If you are interested in more What was your first meteorite?, the Meteorite Times Magazine interviews (Meteorite People) are an excellent source because virtually all of those interviewed were asked this question! P.S.S.: Speaking of John Blennert's generous gifts, I would like to add that one of my most beautiful Gold Basin meteorites is such a generous gift from John. He sent it (two of them,...to be exact!) in May 1999 and it arrived just a few days after my 54th birthday anniversary. It weighs a whopping 76 grams, it still has traces of its original black fusion crust beneath a thin layer of caliche, and it is definitely flight-marked. Another meteorite that will never leave this collection! Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Hello List, I still have my first meteorite, a 15 gram Gao I bought at a rock and fossil shop here in Michigan back in 1996. I paid $80.00 for it! I also have my first find, a 100+ gram puzzle I found in Gold Basin in 2000. Neither of these will leave my collection. : ) Happy Hunting, Larry Atkins BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cheapest Place for Riker Mounts?
Hi Mark Mike Thanks for letting everyone else know that we sell the Riker style cases. I do see that Indian River sells them cheaper. My guess and it is only a guess is that they sell the cases that are made in China as they are below my cost! Well at least I hope so anyway. My cases are made in the USA, though they are not the genuine Riker cases. True Riker cases are also made in the USA and have a slightly higher quality. Unfortunately they sell for almost double the price of my cases. I also know the boxes I sell are of higher quality than the ones mfg in China. Hopefully that helps everyone make up their mind that for the price and quality my cases are the best. :) One more note I also sell them on Ebay but at a slightly higher price due to Ebay fees. So if anyone ever wants some please order them directly from my site and save a couple of dollars. -- Mike -- Mike Jensen Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com On 3/12/07, MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike asked I am looking for the best deal on 4 x 3 Rikers for meteorites. I need ~30 of them. eBay has them for ~$2.25 shipped. Is there a better deal out there? I don't know about better deal, but I imagine the Jensen's can supply them at almost the same cost, there cost is very close to what you have noted, and they can likely supply an order of 30. Boxes of Rikers are usually 24. http://www.jensenmeteorites.com/ Click on supplies. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com www.imca.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball reports coming in from Michigan
Hello Chris, List, If anyone receives more information regarding this event, please contact me on or off list. Thanks, Larry Listees, Larry, hope we can keep this on-list for all those interested. The local astronomy club seems to have it covered (GTA = Greater Toronto Area): Best, Doug http://durhamregion.typepad.com/astronomy/2007/03/meteor_lights_u.html Sunday March 11th at about 8 PM -People throughout the GTA witnessed a fireball moving across our sky towards the west. Police switchboards from the Regions of Durham, York and Toronto started to receive the calls of the curious and the concerned. Was it a plane in distress? A meteor shower? A UFO? Maybe even space junk such as a spent rocket booster finally making it back to Earth after years in orbit. What people likely saw was the blazing trail of a little rock burning up in our upper atmosphere as it traversed the sky. Usually with such events, it's unlikely that anything actually makes it to the ground. What's happening here? In a word -compression. As the object enters the atmosphere, it compresses the air in front of it. The air heats up to extremely high temperatures, consuming the unfortunate object in the process. You can experience something similar -on a smaller scale of course- when you pump up a bicycle tire with a manual air pump. The pump gets hotter and hotter as you compress the air in the tire to a higher pressure. Will we find any physical evidence of last night's sky show? Not likely but if we do, I'll keep you posted. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cheapest Place for Riker Mounts?
Hello Mike J., Mike B. and All, I bought many hundred Riker style cases/boxes from Mike Jensen in the past and they are simply the best regarding quality and price!...even incl. the relatively high shipping costs from the US to Europe! Cheers, Peter Mike Jensen wrote: Hi Mark Mike Thanks for letting everyone else know that we sell the Riker style cases. I do see that Indian River sells them cheaper. My guess and it is only a guess is that they sell the cases that are made in China as they are below my cost! Well at least I hope so anyway. My cases are made in the USA, though they are not the genuine Riker cases. True Riker cases are also made in the USA and have a slightly higher quality. Unfortunately they sell for almost double the price of my cases. I also know the boxes I sell are of higher quality than the ones mfg in China. Hopefully that helps everyone make up their mind that for the price and quality my cases are the best. :) One more note I also sell them on Ebay but at a slightly higher price due to Ebay fees. So if anyone ever wants some please order them directly from my site and save a couple of dollars. -- Mike -- Mike Jensen Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com On 3/12/07, MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike asked I am looking for the best deal on 4 x 3 Rikers for meteorites. I need ~30 of them. eBay has them for ~$2.25 shipped. Is there a better deal out there? I don't know about better deal, but I imagine the Jensen's can supply them at almost the same cost, there cost is very close to what you have noted, and they can likely supply an order of 30. Boxes of Rikers are usually 24. http://www.jensenmeteorites.com/ Click on supplies. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com www.imca.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Strange Object Over Waterloo Region Canada
And another colorful story rolls in (don't think the picture is of the event, but who knows nowadays:) Strange Object Over Waterloo Region Canada by Greg Mercer Was it a planet? A plane? A meteorite? Little green men? Whatever it was, residents across Waterloo Region saw something unusual in the night’s sky yesterday. Around 8 p.m., the calls started coming into police stations, describing a fiery display streaking across the horizon. Some, worried they were witnessing a falling airplane, phoned authorities, who set off on a search and rescue that turned up nothing. Local airports reported no downed planes last night. In the span of a few minutes, multiple calls came in from St. Clements to Cambridge, said Sgt. Sharon Havill of the Waterloo regional police. “We did some searching around,” she said. “We don’t have an answer for sure as to what they were. There were definitely multiple callers, saying they saw a flash in the sky. They weren’t sure whether it was a helicopter or whether it crashed.” At one point, the calls had some police officers joking about searching for “little green men.” Police in Guelph had calls about the sightings, too. They promptly phoned the OPP to go check it out, said Sgt. Neal Young. “It was on the west side of town, something like flames falling from the sky.” Marie Keyes was driving home along Weber Street with her husband when she saw what she initially thought was a shooting star or fireworks. When she looked closer, she saw an object with a trail of sparks arching toward the ground. “I screamed ‘look at that!’” she said. “It was amazing. It was such a shock when it came into view in my windshield. It kind of like dropped. “It was too low to the horizon, and too large, to be a shooting star. I saw a blue flame coming out the end, and it had a tail, with sparks. It was moving very fast, it was a huge ball. And then it just sort of burned out.” About 15 minutes earlier, in the parking lot of a Victoria Street restaurant, Keyes and her husband saw bright moving lights that passed overhead. These rectangular-shaped objects moved “unusually” and didn’t look like “a typical airplane,” she said. Darryl Archer, an amateur astronomer and a member of the Kitchener-Waterloo Centre of the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada, said he didn’t see anything unusual from his observatory last night. But on such clear winter nights, it’s not uncommon for people to mistake the planet Venus for something far more exciting, he said. “It’s the brightest object in the sky next to the sun and moon, so some people mistake it for a UFO,” he said from his home in Baden. He said no meteorite showers were expected last night. [link] Gonzo on 12 Mar 2007 | __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Strange Object Over Waterloo Region Canada
http://www.ourstrangeworld.net/?p=7726 I'm a lousy Newsbot: the above link goes with this story and 'picture'. Best, Doug Strange Object Over Waterloo Region Canada by Greg Mercer Was it a planet? A plane? A meteorite? Little green men? Whatever it was, __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Who's still got their first meteorite? and Walter Zeitschel
Hi List I also will comment on my first meteorite, but later, but I would like to know how the recovery of Walter Zeitschel is coming along. I would like to be sure that our American friends do not forget to send some greetings his way. If you don't know Walter Z. then maybe Michael Hoffman could send his report along, translated maybe, of his visit with him just a month ago. May you Walter recover quickly, Sincerely, Moni From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Who's still got their first meteorite? Date: 12 Mar 2007 21:09:23 UT Jerry Flaherty writes: My first was a generous gift of a 6 gram Gold Basin from John Blennert. None could be more exciting in anticipation, reception and examination. Hello Listees and Listoids, Like so many others, I have to find my first own meteorite yet. But the first meteorite I purchased was a 15-gram cut + etched Mundrabilla slice from Walter Zeitschel - see Meteorite Times interview, May 2002, Vol.1, No.2. Of course, I still have this Little Australian. P.S.: If you are interested in more What was your first meteorite?, the Meteorite Times Magazine interviews (Meteorite People) are an excellent source because virtually all of those interviewed were asked this question! P.S.S.: Speaking of John Blennert's generous gifts, I would like to add that one of my most beautiful Gold Basin meteorites is such a generous gift from John. He sent it (two of them,...to be exact!) in May 1999 and it arrived just a few days after my 54th birthday anniversary. It weighs a whopping 76 grams, it still has traces of its original black fusion crust beneath a thin layer of caliche, and it is definitely flight-marked. Another meteorite that will never leave this collection! Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Rates near 39yr lows! $430K Loan for $1,399/mo - Paying Too Much? Calculate new payment http://www.lowermybills.com/lre/index.jsp?sourceid=lmb-9632-18226moid=7581 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: eBay items; Kediri, Orange County, Ucera, Batesland+++
Hello Everyone, Here are a few rare meteorites to entertain your clicking needs. A few of these, such as Kediri, Orange County and Ucera are meteorites you simply do not see for sale. Batesland H5 Meteorite Part Slice 3.1 grams, Rare South Dakota Find; Comes w/ Monnig Label http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290090959122 Barwise, Texas H5 Meteorite Part Slice 3.1 grams, Nice Specimen; Comes w/ Monnig Label http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290090959776 Kediri L4 Meteorite Specimen 3.1 grams w/Crust, Rare Indonesia Fall; Comes w/ Monnig Label http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290090961557 Kaufman County, Texas L5 Meteorite 6.0g. w/TCU Label http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290090962566 Orange River Iron Meteorite 420 mg., RARE!!, Comes w/ Monnig Label Vintage Musuem Label http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290091324801 Warden, Australia H5 Meteorite Part Slice 6.6 grams, Nice part slice, Comes w/ TCU Monnig Label http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290091328044 Ucera H5 Meteorite Part Slice 6.8 grams, Rare 1970 Fall!! Comes w/ Monnig Label http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290091331374 Davy (b), DeWitt County, Texas H4 Meteorite Slice 11.7g., Nice Specimen, Comes w/ Monnig # Label http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290091335928 Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas http://www.meteoritearticles.com http://www.imca.cc (#3166) http://stores.ebay.com/MeteoriteArticles __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball Seen in Canada, Michigan
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/190985 'Falling star' frightens Earthlings Christian Cotroneo Toronto Star March 12, 2007 Cynthia Crowther had just lit a cigarette outside her Newmarket home when the sky suddenly caught fire. Oh my God, I think I just saw a plane crash, she declared to her husband, running inside. A ball of light, seething white, had careered overhead, spitting out dazzling debris. She called police, the government, airport authorities. Russell Crowther, seeing his wife so frantic, imagined something even worse. I thought it was a nuclear warhead, he recalls. I was just squinting, waiting for us to evaporate. At about the same time that Newmarket seemed scheduled for heavenly demolition, Scott Sweeney was driving home from his parents' house, along Wisconsin's stretch of Interstate 94. He was heading towards Milwaukee, along a four-lane highway flanked by fields and trees, when, something just caught my eye . . . it was going straight down. Indeed, the whitish-green fireball seemed to be on such a dramatic collision course with Earth that from his vantage, the 35-year-old IT technician imagined two grim scenarios: a mighty cannonball into Lake Michigan. Or Milwaukee itself was due for a celestial smackdown. I honestly waited to see something come up from the ground. But what actually fell from the sky on Sunday night, visible between 8 and 8:30 p.m. to rapt observers from southern Ontario to Milwaukee, Wis., was likely a rock, no bigger than a fist and weighing about a kilogram. Everything I have heard suggests that it was a bolide - a meteorite that was flaming though our atmosphere, explained Paul Delaney, a physics and astronomy professor at York University. It probably came to ground somewhere. But where, nobody knows. It is certain, however, that for three of four spine-tingling seconds, people from a massive swathe of the continent shared the same slice of burning sky. And everyone imagined that whatever it was had landed in their own backyard. That is not at all unusual for a really bright bolide, Delaney observed. They have huge distances over which they can travel and, therefore, be seen. Especially if it's in the twilight or darkness hours. For all you know, it's up10 kilometres. That means its travel distance can be huge. 50 km? 500 km? It could be 5,000 km, mate. But a hurtling meteoroid glows white hot as it rushes through the earth's atmosphere and, like waving a red hot stick around at a campfire, it leaves a brief but extremely bright trail. So it doesn't have to be very big to be seemingly really bright, Delaney said. NORAD certainly didn't flinch. Charged with monitoring the skies across the continent, the North American Aerospace Defense Command uses a battery of radar, satellites and aircraft to cast its net. We're pretty vigilant in terms of monitoring the skies, said Major Jason Proulx, a NORAD public affairs officer. But what we do is we assess whether it poses a risk or a threat. If it doesn't pose a threat, it's not something we wouldn't express further interest in. It was dramatic enough for television stations in Wisconsin to take a break from unsolved cow murders and assure residents that it was not a UFO. Closer to home, a radio report suggested the flaming fury landed in Nobleton, although the local fire department found no debris. And police switchboards in Toronto, York and Durham Regions reported receiving several calls from people who observed the fireball. If anyone does manage to find this heavenly visitor, the earthly rewards could be substantial. Museums, such as the Royal Ontario Museum, could pay as much as $3,000 for a meteoroid of that size, Delaney estimated. There will be a flood of, `Oh, it's mine.' Because these things are worth a lot of money. Meteorites are big business. After all, imagine how much we can learn from a bolt that falls from the heavenly machinery. These are wonderful laboratories, Delaney says. It's a piece of space. Some of the rocks that come to ground are literally leftover pieces from the solar system's formation. All of a sudden, we step back in time four and a half billion years ago, to the way the solar system was at that moment in time. That gives us a real good base point to tell us about what was the material composition of our region of space when our solar system formed. Could this rare hint from the heavens be stuck in some Uxbridge heifer's hindquarters? Of course, if it hit that cow, the cow is going to be lying there dead, Delaney notes. So the farmer will be a little ticked. In fact, Delaney knows of only two reported personal impacts over the last 400 to 500 years. None in Canada. Of the thousands of meteorites raining on earth every year, most plunk into the oceans covering most of the globe. Ambitious meteorite hunters may want to head to Antarctica, where humans are sparse and meteorites are relatively easy to find. The stuff hits the ice, the ice melts and then they
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball Seen in Canada, Michigan
Hi, A ball of light, seething white, had careered [sic, probably careened] overhead, spitting out dazzling debris... Spitting out dazzling debris over many miles suggests that it was a very weak object and probably ablated away completely. The absense of any reports of booms or explosions suggests it never made it down to subsonic speeds. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 6:13 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fireball Seen in Canada, Michigan http://www.thestar.com/News/article/190985 'Falling star' frightens Earthlings Christian Cotroneo Toronto Star March 12, 2007 Cynthia Crowther had just lit a cigarette outside her Newmarket home when the sky suddenly caught fire. Oh my God, I think I just saw a plane crash, she declared to her husband, running inside. A ball of light, seething white, had careered overhead, spitting out dazzling debris [snip] ...Unless somebody saw it hit, Delaney says. The chances of us finding it are really slim, unfortunately. --- Sighting triggers calls mlive.com (Michigan) March 12, 2007 WEST MICHIGAN -- A meteor streaking across the night sky on Sunday prompted numerous calls to police dispatchers in several counties. It was probably really bright, if it drew that much attention, said Dave DeBruyn, director of Roger B. Chaffee Planetarium in Grand Rapids. He said a meteor is the best explanation for the fiery streak many people reported at 8 p.m. Meteor-sightings happen occasionally, he said, and involve a rock typically rich in iron and nickel that disintegrates in the atmosphere as it falls. It's kind of like a giant sparkler, he said. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball Seen in Canada, Michigan
I've got an astro-referenced report from Utica that suggests it was seen from a height of about 80 miles down to below 40 miles. I have two reports of sound, both from the edges of Detroit. One person reported electrophonic noise, and the other reported sonic booms. Lots of fragmentation over many miles can also indicate a robust meteoroid that has made it to a moderately low height and is traveling in a fairly flat trajectory. From what I can deduce about the velocity and descent angle, I'd say there's a definite possibility this object produced meteorites, but it's far from a sure thing. If I were looking, I'd put the most likely strewn field location in western Lake Erie. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball Seen in Canada, Michigan Hi, A ball of light, seething white, had careered [sic, probably careened] overhead, spitting out dazzling debris... Spitting out dazzling debris over many miles suggests that it was a very weak object and probably ablated away completely. The absense of any reports of booms or explosions suggests it never made it down to subsonic speeds. Sterling K. Webb __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Could Venus Watch For Earth-Bound Asteroids?
Hello List: I have observer a few asteroids in my life and have some problems with this article. I am away from home, so I am going mostly on memory and so these are only estimates; 1. If you are to put a telescope at the orbit of Venus, it would have to be in the same orbit as Venus, but not near Venus. If you are planning to observe in the infrared, you would want a Spitzer-type telescope. The Earth is hot and Venus would be hotter (so is the Sun)! Spitzer has a lifetime of about 5 years thanks to shielding from the Sun and Earth. I am not sure how much more of a problem there would be at the distance of Venus. HST with it CCDs is much easier to cool so does not have the limits of an infrared telescope. 2. Yes, asteroids are brighter in the infrared: but this is sunlight absorbed and re-emitted (heat). So, yes, you could observe asteroids at these wavelengths, but as stated about would need a cooled telescope. 3. While the idea of an asteroid coming at us out of the sunlight (worked in war movies), statistically, there are fewer of these asteroid (at least known). There are over 2000 known Apollo asteroids (cross Earth orbit, but mean solar distance greater than Earth's) and less than 400 Aten asteroids (cross Earth's orbit, but mean distance less than Earth's). There are known known asteroids with orbits wholly within Earth's orbit (at least none discovered). So, there are more things coming in from outside in than inside out. Yes, it would be better to look from closer to the Sun, but would have the bigger, brighter, hotter Sun to deal with (visible or infrared). 4. You would also be better off with more than one telescope. There is always the chance that the asteroid with our name on it would hit us at its first close pass (might not be able to do anything about it). But if that is so, you would want a telescope that is looking in the direction of the Earth at any given time. 5. Now, something that I just thought about that I cannot calculate here in my hotel room (in Disney World). How many asteroids have perihelion (closest distance to the Sun) that get anywhere near Venus? Most near Earth asteroids (NEOs) can only be detected when they are close to Earth (they are very small). These may never be detected from far away Venus. That is all I can think of at the moment. Larry -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Ron Baalke Gesendet: Freitag, 9. März 2007 22:50 An: Meteorite Mailing List Betreff: [meteorite-list] Could Venus Watch For Earth-Bound Asteroids? http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn11356-could-venus-watch-for-earth bou nd-asteroids.html Could Venus watch for Earth-bound asteroids? David L Chandler New Scientist 09 March 2007 A dedicated space-based telescope is needed to achieve a congressionally mandated goal of discovering 90% of all near-Earth asteroids down to a size of 140 metres by the year 2020, says a report NASA sent to the US Congress on Thursday. Asteroids of that size are large enough to destroy a major city or region if they strike the planet - but NASA says it does not have the money to pay for the project. The study says Venus is the best place for the telescope. That is because space rocks within Earth's orbit - where Venus lies - are most likely to be lost in the Sun's glare, potentially catching astronomers off guard. The telescope could be placed either behind or ahead of Venus in its orbit by about 60° - the stable Lagrange points, known as L4 or L5, where the gravity of the Sun and Venus are in balance. There are quite a few [objects] that are interior to Earth's orbit, NASA's Lindley Johnson told New Scientist. Those are really hard to detect [from Earth]; the opportunities to see them are very limited. From the orbit of Venus, however, you're always looking away from the Sun, always looking out, he says. And, of course, you can observe 24 hours a day - you don't have to worry about night and day. Even from Earth orbit, a telescope's view of any given part of the sky is blocked about half the time by the Earth itself. In addition, because Venus orbits the Sun in about two-thirds the time the Earth does, a telescope in that orbit would catch up with any near-Earth asteroids in their orbits more frequently than Earth does, offering more opportunities for discovery. You're able to sample that population more rapidly in the same amount of time, Johnson says. Missed deadline An infrared telescope would be more effective than one that studies visible light, because asteroids reflect sunlight more strongly at infrared wavelengths. The background sky is also much less bright in the infrared, providing better contrast for discovering even small, faint asteroids. With the Venus-orbit IR telescope, NASA could exceed its goal by three years, finding 90% of the most dangerous space rocks by 2017. But the space telescope is estimated to cost $1.1
[meteorite-list] Church organist required for jungle meteorite hunt
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article1499849.ece From The Times March 12, 2007 Church organist required for jungle meteorite hunt Jack Malvern Wanted: one organist for concert in remote Bolivian jungle accessible only by raft. Must be prepared to face rapids, alligators and 30C (86F) temperatures. Ability to swim a bonus. Church organists are rarely an essential part of expeditions into the Amazonian rainforest, but a team of scientists about to embark on a journey to a far-flung meteorite impact site in Bolivia believe that one will be key to achieving their mission. Colonel John Blashford-Snell, a professional adventurer who made headlines in 2000 when he took a grand piano 350 miles (560km) along the Amazon River as a present for the Wai Wai tribe in Guyana, intends to deliver a pedal organ to the isolated Ojaki community as a way of persuading its people to help his expedition. The colonels team, which will also help to install a clean water supply and perform medical duties for the Ojaki people, are reliant on local expertise to build bridges to the impact site, which is five miles wide. The locals are religious and have asked the visitors to install an organ in their newly built church. The organ a pedal-powered Harmonium donated by St Jamess church in Milton Abbas, Dorset will be flown to La Paz and then transported by lorry 120 miles over the Andes to the Beni river. It will then be loaded on to a 59ft (18m) boat for a 430-mile journey over rapids and more dangerous, man-made hazards. Colonel Blashford-Snell, 70, told The Times that the main obstacle would be logs floated down the river by timber companies. You get around those by gunning the engine before pulling the prop out of the water, he said. God willing, your bow comes out of the water and you shoot over the log and land on the other side. Natural hazards include alligators, although these are not a problem unless you step on them, he said. The explorer made a reconnaissance expedition two years ago but had to stop within seven miles of the crater when his party got down to their last bottle of water. He suggests that any organist willing to join should be prepared to face discomforts such as swarms of bees and 30C temperratures. The organist should be fit enough to catch a bus and it would be very nice if he or she could swim, he said. The successful applicant will also be expected to pay a share of the costs of about £2,000. The team hopes to be the first to bring back traces of the meteorite, which is estimated to have landed between 5,000 and 30,000 years ago. It will also try formally to identify the Andean double-nosed tiger hound, a dog first observed in Bolivia in 1913 by Percy Fawcett, a British adventurer. Derring-do Colonel John Blashford-Snell is a former officer in the Royal Engineers who helped to found Operation Raleigh. He will lead the 20-person team on the two-month trip on June 21 He has twice been shot at by Ethiopian bandits, bitten by a vampire bat and ate a Panamanian spider monkey Blashford-Snell is the founder of the Scientific Exploration Society He led the first descent of the Ethiopian Blue Nile in 1968 and the first vehicle crossing of the Darien Gap in Panama in 1972 He invented a jungle hat that is mosquito-repellent, Teflon-coated and has a refrigerated headband He said recently: I often say at 6am as I climb out of a soaking wet hammock, God, I must be mad. Why am I doing this? Source: Times database It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Strange Object Over Waterloo Region Canada
List and Roman in particular, Our own Roman Jirasek lives just a few miles from Guelph. Roman, have you driven out there yet? Let me know if there are any little green meteorites to be picked up. Mike Tettenborn - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 6:29 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Strange Object Over Waterloo Region Canada And another colorful story rolls in (don't think the picture is of the event, but who knows nowadays:) Strange Object Over Waterloo Region Canada by Greg Mercer Was it a planet? A plane? A meteorite? Little green men? Whatever it was, residents across Waterloo Region saw something unusual in the night’s sky yesterday. Around 8 p.m., the calls started coming into police stations, describing a fiery display streaking across the horizon. Some, worried they were witnessing a falling airplane, phoned authorities, who set off on a search and rescue that turned up nothing. Local airports reported no downed planes last night. In the span of a few minutes, multiple calls came in from St. Clements to Cambridge, said Sgt. Sharon Havill of the Waterloo regional police. “We did some searching around,” she said. “We don’t have an answer for sure as to what they were. There were definitely multiple callers, saying they saw a flash in the sky. They weren’t sure whether it was a helicopter or whether it crashed.” At one point, the calls had some police officers joking about searching for “little green men.” Police in Guelph had calls about the sightings, too. They promptly phoned the OPP to go check it out, said Sgt. Neal Young. “It was on the west side of town, something like flames falling from the sky.” Marie Keyes was driving home along Weber Street with her husband when she saw what she initially thought was a shooting star or fireworks. When she looked closer, she saw an object with a trail of sparks arching toward the ground. “I screamed ‘look at that!’” she said. “It was amazing. It was such a shock when it came into view in my windshield. It kind of like dropped. “It was too low to the horizon, and too large, to be a shooting star. I saw a blue flame coming out the end, and it had a tail, with sparks. It was moving very fast, it was a huge ball. And then it just sort of burned out.” About 15 minutes earlier, in the parking lot of a Victoria Street restaurant, Keyes and her husband saw bright moving lights that passed overhead. These rectangular-shaped objects moved “unusually” and didn’t look like “a typical airplane,” she said. Darryl Archer, an amateur astronomer and a member of the Kitchener-Waterloo Centre of the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada, said he didn’t see anything unusual from his observatory last night. But on such clear winter nights, it’s not uncommon for people to mistake the planet Venus for something far more exciting, he said. “It’s the brightest object in the sky next to the sun and moon, so some people mistake it for a UFO,” he said from his home in Baden. He said no meteorite showers were expected last night. [link] Gonzo on 12 Mar 2007 | __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Updated website, New Colorado stony and more.
Hello Members! Done! I just added another 40+ pieces, with pictures, to my Catalog. Another brand new Colorado meteorite (that's the 3rd one!): New Raymer. And finally a few Ensisheim pieces, those are really getting hard to get. And several rare meteorites from Argentina: Arbol Solo, Arroyo Aguiar, Mercedes, Huaytiquina. Have a look: _http://www.impactika.com/MetList.htm_ (http://www.impactika.com/MetList.htm) And there is more to come!! If you ever wanted a small slice of Fairfield (IAB Coarse Octahedrite, one mass, 1.6kg, found in 1974 in Butler County, Ohio), do let me know as soon as possible. There will be a few slices available. And I really mean Few. And it is very pretty. Any questions, do let me know. Enjoy. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] trade offer's
Hello list.I am willing to trade my 198 gram NWA 1685,THE BLACK NWA,for a nicely crusted GAO at least 500 grams or a few 150 grams or better pieces.You can view on my homepage of my website.I also have been getting emails about my 41 gram slice of EDMONTON,CANADA.I might entertain offers.I will have to see what is out there.I do know that canadian pieces are at a premium.Email me offlist. steve arnold Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! www.chicagometeorites.net Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] COLLECTION DESPLAY
Both of them, old and new look just fine! Posted 3-11-07 8:57PM__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Recent E-mails
Hi Mark, I, like you, am new to the meteorite world and I agree with your post. Well said. Regards, Greg Lindh - Original Message - From: Mark Grossmanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.commailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 12:35 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Recent E-mails Just a note from a new member. Since I am fairly new to the meteorite field, I have been mainly watching the postings and learning what I can. I've posted a couple of questions and purchased a few items from some of the members, and I can say without a doubt that the members have been very, very helpful with the responses. Thanks to all of you who have helped me out. With that said, I have found many of the recent e-mails that I have seen to be somewhat disheartening, and based on the subject lines, I am starting to delete more and more e-mails without reading them, which is unfortunate, because I joined the list to read e-mails and learn what I can. I know I am new, and many, many of you know each other for many years, and I don't mean to interfere or say anything inappropriate. I just wanted to let you know that some of the back and forth does not present the meteorite list in the best light to new members, and certainly does not reflect the vast wealth, knowledge and experience that almost everyone (except for me!) on the list has. In addition to providing a means of communication between members who know each other, the list has an enormous potential to inform, educate and promote the hobby and the profession to members, new and old, as well as the public, and I just hope the latter doesn't get lost in all the recent back and forth between members. So having told the list the impression that is being left with at least one new member, I will go back to watching the postings. Thanks for hearing me out. Mark __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Test.
I'm just doing a test to see if I've solved the problem of my posts being delayed.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] unsubscribe
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Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re Threats fromMr Gregory
its waht I say from many years, Farmer put around the market nd the meteorite collectors fake voices on many persons work in the meteorite world, me for first. Fortunately he is many know well here in Italy, many of my friends work in italian national museums go every time in Tucson and know very well Farmer and the racism he have with europeans collectors, dealer etc... and they have say never buy a meteorite from this person. Matteo --- Armando Afonso [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Dear friends, From time to time, I take the time and patience to read what is happening in this list. Invariably, Mike Farmer is exchanging insults with someone... If this list was something near neutrality, this gentleman would have been banned long, long ago... Anyway, from a certain distance, this fights can be very amusing, too. Pitty that the only interest of the meteorites for this guys is the potential profit, nothing else. Apart from his predator attitude, arrogance, irritability and scientific ignorance, what are his atributes? AA - Original Message - From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re Threats fromMr Gregory on 3/10/07 8:11 AM, Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List members, this man is now making threats to my home and family.. Read this and tell me.. -- Dear Mike and all, Mike, would it help if you KNEW that NO ONE on the list wanted to read ANY of the posts about issues you and this fellow have with one another? If you knew that would you then spare us hearing about it??? I experience you as a fairly intelligent fellow, so, please, PLEASE pay attention: -- I suggest EVERYONE on the list think very carefully and decide if they want to hear about this dispute between Mike and this fellow. If even ONE list member WANTS to hear about it, please post to the list your opinion to this effect. - Mike - if NO ONE responds, perhaps you could leave your emotions in check for just a moment, fall back on your ample intelligence and keep any communications with this fellow strictly between you and him, as clearly, out of the hundreds of list members you will have heard for yourself that NOT ONE of the list members wants to hear about it. Sincerely, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail: http://it.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Bologna Mineral Show 2007 photos
for who want look some photos of this show go here http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v617/McomeMeteorite/Bologna%20Mineral%20Show%202007/ few meteorites and moroccans have ended all...well. Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail: http://it.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Who's still got their first meteorite?
Dear List; I have my first meteorite yet, a CD that is 135 grams. I paid $1 a gram at that time back in 1998. Dave F. Pat Brown wrote: Hi Ruben and the List, This is a great topic. I still have the first meteorite I purchased. It is a small Canyon Diablo. I also have the first meteorite that I found, a small Tungsten Mountain. There is also joy in giving away meteorites. This past Christmas, I gave a small Tungsten Mountain meteorite to each of my nephews and nieces. I printed an 8.5 x 11 glossy of the in-situ photo and framed this with the meteorite in a gem jar velcroed to the front of the frame, on the back of the frame is a color printout of a USGS topo map with the location that the meteorite was found. Each of the kids really enjoyed them. One niece took hers to class and used it for show and tell. Kids need things that make science fun and meaning full. Pat --- Ruben Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm sure I am atypical. For years I sold, traded, lost, or gave away just about every meteorite I ever found. It wasn't till about a year or two ago that I actually started collecting them. Even now I only hold on to the very best of what I find. I really regret selling some meteorites though, as some of my very best finds are in other peoples collections. Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545367 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] liquidation from mohamrd ait ouzrou
dear listees members , i have a liquidation in meteorites if some one interested can visite this blog , www.meteoriteforsalle.skyblog.com , this blog includ some good stones and i have sone Carboneceus too but idon't show it in the blog more then this i have a small monster includ 42kilo but it's broken by Nomad , so if some one intersted in one of these offer can contact me at this email adress , [EMAIL PROTECTED] . i'm will happy to serve list members , many greeting to all members , Mohamed ait ouzrou - Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Sikhote-Alin web site
In a message dated 3/11/2007 8:54:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've tried to reach this site twice since it was first announced. Anyone else unable to reach it? Looks like you're the only one with that problem Gary! Sincerely, Michael Johnson SPACEROCKSINC.COM _http://www.spacerocksinc.com_ (http://www.spacerocksinc.com/) SIKHOTE-ALIN.ORG _http://www.sikhote-alin.org_ (http://www.sikhote-alin.org/) BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The chance of a lifetime?
Church organist required for jungle meteorite hunt Wanted: one organist for concert in remote Bolivian jungle accessible only by raft. Must be prepared to face rapids, alligators and 30C (86F) temperatures. Ability to swim a bonus. Church organists are rarely an essential part of expeditions into the Amazonian rainforest, but a team of scientists about to embark on a journey to a far-flung meteorite impact site in Bolivia believe that one will be key to achieving their mission. Colonel John Blashford-Snell, a professional adventurer who made headlines in 2000 when he took a grand piano 350 miles (560km) along the Amazon River as a present for the Wai Wai tribe in Guyana, intends to deliver a pedal organ to the isolated Ojaki community as a way of persuading its people to help his expedition. The colonels team, which will also help to install a clean water supply and perform medical duties for the Ojaki people, are reliant on local expertise to build bridges to the impact site, which is five miles wide. The locals are religious and have asked the visitors to install an organ in their newly built church. The organ a pedal-powered Harmonium donated by St Jamess church in Milton Abbas, Dorset will be flown to La Paz and then transported by lorry 120 miles over the Andes to the Beni river. It will then be loaded on to a 59ft (18m) boat for a 430-mile journey over rapids and more dangerous, man-made hazards. Colonel Blashford-Snell, 70, told The Times that the main obstacle would be logs floated down the river by timber companies. You get around those by gunning the engine before pulling the prop out of the water, he said. God willing, your bow comes out of the water and you shoot over the log and land on the other side. Natural hazards include alligators, although these are not a problem unless you step on them, he said. The explorer made a reconnaissance expedition two years ago but had to stop within seven miles of the crater when his party got down to their last bottle of water. He suggests that any organist willing to join should be prepared to face discomforts such as swarms of bees and 30C temperratures. The organist should be fit enough to catch a bus and it would be very nice if he or she could swim, he said. The successful applicant will also be expected to pay a share of the costs of about £2,000. The team hopes to be the first to bring back traces of the meteorite, which is estimated to have landed between 5,000 and 30,000 years ago. It will also try formally to identify the Andean double-nosed tiger hound, a dog first observed in Bolivia in 1913 by Percy Fawcett, a British adventurer. Derring-do Colonel John Blashford-Snell is a former officer in the Royal Engineers who helped to found Operation Raleigh. He will lead the 20-person team on the two-month trip on June 21 He has twice been shot at by Ethiopian bandits, bitten by a vampire bat and ate a Panamanian spider monkey Blashford-Snell is the founder of the Scientific Exploration Society He led the first descent of the Ethiopian Blue Nile in 1968 and the first vehicle crossing of the Darien Gap in Panama in 1972 He invented a jungle hat that is mosquito-repellent, Teflon-coated and has a refrigerated headband He said recently: I often say at 6am as I climb out of a soaking wet hammock, God, I must be mad. Why am I doing this? Here is the link where the article is located: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article1499849.ece __ Hi every one! What I was wondering about this is why it has to be a church organist? Why not just a good organist? Well I just thought I would throw it on the list for anyone who was interested. Dana Hawn - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Who's still got their first meteorite?
When I first found out that meteorites were avaiable to be bought online, I was looking for unique Christmas presents. Consequently, the first dozen meteorites I bought were given away. Then I realized I should be keeping some of these goodies for myself, and an obsession was born. One of the first meteorites I bought intending to keep it for myself was a skeletal Imilac from Dean, which I still have. In fact, aside from a few I have given away, I have kept almost every meteorite that has come into my possession since then, and cherish all of them. Tracy Latimer _ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Who's still got their first meteorite?
Hi All, I do!! The first time I ever saw a meteorite was at Chabot's Space and Science Center in Oakland, California in 2001. http://www.chabotspace.org/ I was taken in by those beautiful rocks. I stayed for a long time just looking at whole stones and slices of iron and stony meteorites in the display case. Unbelievable beautiful! Unbelievable to see rocks from space!! The next year I received three meteorites as a gift. A Gold Basin, a Sikhote Alin and one from the Mojave desert. I still have them all nestled in the chocolate tin can they came in. The same year I found my very own meteorite from a Nevada dry lake!!! The meteorite bug has bit me!!! These meteorites will never leave me and actually all additional finds I have made since then, which consists of several different types of meteorites, I am planning on keeping also. This is what I collect, my own finds! Happy collecting or hunting or both, Moni _ With tax season right around the corner, make sure to follow these few simple tips. http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes/PreparationTips/PreparationTips.aspx?icid=HMFebtagline __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
