[meteorite-list] RARE hard to Acquire Ebay auctions ending today
Hi List. 2 Auctions ending on Ebay today. One is an Ultra rare, hard to acquire decent size slice 0.460 gm of OUZINA http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=006sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=160097535288rd=1rd=1 The other is a gorgeous 1.19 gm. European Fall called BARWELL known as The Christmas Meteorite http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=006sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=160097535293rd=1rd=1 Thanks for looking and good luck bidding. Sincerely Don Merchant IMCA # 0960 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Abstract: EL3 Chondrite (not Aubrite) NorthwestAfrica 2828
Hi, All, an ancient fluvial and/or acidic lacustrine environment... Most people think of the Sahara as an ancient, primordial environment. It's a relatively new feature. The Sahara was a well-watered mixed forest and glassland temperate environment, with lakes and many rivers (whose ancient courses are still visible in many places) 14,000 years ago and more. There was plentiful game and a large human population. The NE Sahara seems to have desertified first, driving humans into the Nile Valley. By 8 to 10 thousand years ago, it was a dry grassland and the lakes and rivers were vanishing rapidly. The Sahara grows from its center, where the bulk of the sand is generated that flows out to make the Great Sand Sea. The process is on-going and the remains of vast Roman plantations can be found 100 miles or more into the Sand that were thriving and productive 1600 years ago! North Africa was the Breadbasket of the Roman Empire, green and growing. Like so many deserts, it is unlikely to revert to a paradise again when the present Ice Age resumes after this interglacial, because of the smothering effect of the Sand. The Amazon Rain Forest, another temporary Interglacial abnormality, will likely recover from the damage done by its runaway forestation and revert to the vast rolling Sea of Grass it was 12 to 16 thousand years ago, when things get back to normal. Any meteorite in the Sahara need not be highly ancient to be completely weathered out. One sees statements that completely weathered NWA's must have terrestrial ages of 40 to 50 thousand years. They would IF the Sahara had always been as dry as it is, but it hasn't been. They need only be old enough to have been exposed during the wet times. This one seems to have sat in the lake bottom for a long time, though, for all those changes. Still, I doubt it's more than 20,000 years old, tops, and it could be much younger. Chondrites don't last that long in water! Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: Jeff Kuyken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 1:39 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Abstract: EL3 Chondrite (not Aubrite) NorthwestAfrica 2828 Hi all, Thought some may find this abstract that I just found interesting. http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-bib_query?bibcode=2006AGUFM.P51E1247K Cheers, Jeff -- Title: EL3 Chondrite (not Aubrite) Northwest Africa 2828: An Unusual Paleo-meteorite Occurring as Cobbles in a Terrestrial Conglomerate Authors: Kuehner, S. M.; Irving, A. J.; Bunch, T. E.; Wittke, J. H. Publication: American Geophysical Union, Fall Meeting 2006, abstract #P51E-1247 Publication Date: 12/2006 Abstract: Although we recently classified NWA 2828 as an aubrite [1], our examination of new material (now comprising over 120 stones totaling 27 kg) requires revision of that classification. New information on the find site in Algeria indicates that these stones were excavated from a subsurface deposit, and we have found terrestrial rhyolite pebbles and sandy matrix attached to several NWA 2828 stones (see images at http://www.ess.washington.edu/meteoritics). Thus this is a rare example of a paleo-meteorite or 'fossil' meteorite. Some stones contain sparse (5 vol.%) but very distinct round, radial pyroxene chondrules (up to 3 mm across), as well as rounded, fine-grained aggregates (up to 6 mm across) rich in either enstatite or sodic plagioclase. Remnant Na-Al-Si-rich glass is present within cavities in chondrules, both between enstatite blades and in annular zones. The matrix contains pervasive 0.2-0.5 mm cavities with coatings of calcite and minor halite and gypsum. Iron sulfate (after troilite), jarosite, an inhomogeneous (possibly amorphous) phase rich in Fe, Cr, Si, Ca, Ti, P, S and Cl, minor native sulfur and silica also are present, and brown Fe-rich rinds on one stone contain up to 6.5 wt.% Ni. These secondary minerals signify terrestrial alteration of primary metal, sulfides, phosphides, nitrides and glass in an ancient fluvial and/or acidic lacustrine environment. The dominant primary phase in NWA 2828 is enstatite (En98.4Wo1.4), which forms stubby prismatic grains (lacking polysynthetic twinning indicative of inverted clinoenstatite [cf., 1]). Our original classification was based on a very small specimen of an apparently igneous-textured rock, but the discovery of chondrules and the absence of twinned enstatite now suggests that it is instead an unequilibrated enstatite chondrite. Additional primary phases noted previously [1] are sodic plagioclase (An14- 15Or3-4), troilite, graphite, daubreelite, alabandite, oldhamite, schreibersite, glass and very rare kamacite. The well-formed, round chondrules containing glass coupled with the unrecrystallized matrix lead us to re-classify NWA 2828 as an EL3 chondrite. We also must revise our
[meteorite-list] AD - GIBEON w. nat. patina 1805 g!
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZpema9 Hello All, I have a very nice GIBEON meteorite, 1805 grams with natural patina on ebay, ending in a few hours. These complete individuals with natural patina normally sell for $ 1.20 or more, my starting price is a mere 55 c per gram! http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZpema9 Thank you, Peter __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Three Unusual Auctions on eBay
Hi Listoids, I have three unusual auctions on Ebay right now. Here's what is up for sale; 1) Gibeon Meteorite 46.7g Etched Slice. A beautifully prepared slice with Fusion Crust on one edge and triolite inclusions. Additional pictures of this specimen are at the following URLs; http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/gibeon-etched-46-7b.jpg http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/gibeon-etched-46-7.jpg http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/gibeon-etched-43-2.jpg 2) Sikhote Alin 73.5g Oriented Individual with Ablation Hole. This is the Buck Rogers Spaceship specimen from Geoff Notkin's collection. Additional pictures of this specimen are at the following URLs; http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/buckrogersbottom.jpg http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/buckrogersbow.jpg http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/buckrogersport.jpg http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/buckrogersstern.jpg http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/buckrogersstarboard.jpg http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/sikhote-alin-buck1.jpg http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/sikhote-alin-buck2.jpg 3) 2 Campo del Cielo Meteorite Coins. One from the original, unserializzed run of 400 coins and the second is Lucky #7 from the serialized coin run of only 230 coins. This is the first time a pair of these coins has been offered together! Additional pictures of these coins are at the following URLs; http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/campo-coin2closeup.jpg http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/campo-coin2-closeup.jpg http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/campo-coin-closeup.jpg To view these auctions visit my page at; http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/ebaygaryfoote.html From there you can click directly through to these items on eBay. Gary Foote http://www.meteorite-dealers.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: ebay auctions ending!
Hi everyone! I have 21 ebay auctions ending in a little over 9 hours ... There are a lot of goodies still at low bids: - Boriskino - Cumberland Falls frag - Dar al Gani 400 (beautiful thin partslice) - Holbrook - small crusted fragment - Juvinas - Obernkirchen - Shallowater - Tombigbee RIver and a lot more to see... So please follow this link if you are interested: http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=meteoriten Thank you for watching and Good Luck to anyone bidding. BEst Regards Moritz Karl __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion crusts on stony meteorites
Hah Dave, I disagree :-) Moni Waiblinger is also an excellent hunter in USA! She showed us some of her finds in Tucson, among them a really perfect oriented stone! Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Dave Freeman mjwy Gesendet: Sonntag, 25. März 2007 01:56 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion crusts on stony meteorites Well Dear Ladies; I find my personal friend, and buddy, Maria Haas from Michigan to be far superior a meteorite hunter than any of the other ladies on the list and especially from Michigan. Her large and excellent karma helps her find many meteoritesjust not in Michigan. Very best, Dave F. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - March 25, 2007
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion crusts on stony meteorites
Originally Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 6:02 PM Hi Susa, Your enthusiasm is great and that's how we all start ... Welcome to the list! Your task is a very formidable challenge, that is, to rescue the jewels of further reaches of the Solar System cleverly cached in fields of our dreams here on Earth, as you choose to pursue it ... A weak soul shall surrender and meet certain failure; you musn't ever surrender. Bring a lucky talisman such as a Moldavite amulet to be a useful campanion. This is an essential whetstone of your faith; a reminder, that, proper sacrifices and tributes are necessary to the Goddesses Patience and Determination, without whose favor, you can never gain the eyes of chrysaetos in your quest to meet with success. Carefully, tread thee here on this council, as a thought will often launch a thousand words... Only then can you feel the power, on this list in particular, of these possessive stones in making men's hearts gloriously tremble. And, here in Meteorlandia, these gems exalt selected women's imaginations among beloved shooting stars... Hopefully you will soon meet some of our magnificent female list members - meteorite devotees and adventurous huntresses hailing from Hawai'i to Denver, California and Arizona to Michigan and Ohio, not forgetting New York or Georgia, old Mexico to the Kingdom of Britain and the heat down under of the outposts of Australia to Antarctica, or up and over to permafrost in Lappland! At least two of the top ten hunters are women -- even though the men do most of the gossiping here --. Good luck and I look forward to your posting a picture of yourself with matching first finds feeding those instincts that boil in all of our insides. Best health and happy hunting, Doug PS, this is a resend because your original message I replied to was in Rich Text Format (RTF) and that gets delayed a a while by the list posting filter. I noticed your message was delayed, too, for this same reason. To avoid that in the future, look for the option, if available in the email program to post using 'plain text' formatted messages. In Outlook Express, this option is in the Format menu tab. And those who have AOL can insure this by composing their emails on AOL-Anywhere (AOL's web-based email access). So, you will see my original reply from 6:02PM last night when Art, our never-surrendering list moderator, unclogs the filter and flushes the decent and delayed messages through the system. - Original Message - From: SUSA To: PolandMET ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion crusts on stony meteorites I think I'm the only girl on the site. I am facinated by you guys, and the knowledge I'm gaining from just reading these posts is awesome. I want to be the top meteorite hunter in Michigan. With you boys on my side, I think I can be. I am well educated in geology, and anthropology, but meteorites is a new and fun thing for me. I'm a hunter at heart. I'm a metal detecting geek, well, even though I'm a blonde cute girl. It's totally facinating. Thanks you guys for all your info, it's like taking a college course in the subject. Susa __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion crusts on stony meteorites
Hello All, Welcome to the list Susa! I'm glad to hear that you find this forum fascinating and fun, it really is a great place to learn about meteorites and meet wonderful, like minded people. I can appreciate your aspirations to be the top meteorite hunter in Michigan, I set out to do the same, some years ago. I'm not positive but I think I made it. : ) If you want to knock me off my throne you have to beat out Maria to get to me! It took her a while to get going, but look out, she's on a roll... There are other women on this list and I'm sure you will find them to be great people too. I met Moni is Tucson this year, a fantastic meteorite hunter with her own finds, very impressive! Know that I, as a fellow meteorite hunting Michigander, will help you pursue your dream in any way that I can. Us Midwesterners have a distinct disadvantage compared to the folks out west, we need all the help we can get and we need to stick together! Welcome to the enigmatic life that is meteorites. Let's share a hunt! Happy Hunting, Larry Atkins In a message dated 3/24/2007 7:56:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well Dear Ladies; I find my personal friend, and buddy, Maria Haas from Michigan to be far superior a meteorite hunter than any of the other ladies on the list and especially from Michigan. Her large and excellent karma helps her find many meteoritesjust not in Michigan. Very best, Dave F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/24/2007 3:52:12 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think I'm the only girl on the site. I am facinated by you guys, and the knowledge I'm gaining from just reading these posts is awesome. I want to be the top meteorite hunter in Michigan. With you boys on my side, I think I can be. I am well educated in geology, and anthropology, but meteorites is a new and fun thing for me. I'm a hunter at heart. I'm a metal detecting geek, well, even though I'm a blonde cute girl. It's totally facinating. Thanks you guys for all your info, it's like taking a college course in the subject. Susa No, you are not the only woman on the List. And I am blond too. ;-) Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Black NWA 1685
Bernd and Steve and List, Have been searching the net and various texts to determine how frequent, if at all, actual achondritic clasts are recorded being found in chondrites. Not much info on the subject around but Richard Norton states that there are instances of such occurrences. Pg. 144 plate (b) The Cambridge Encyclopedia of Meteorites. So how do these beauties come to being? Are the breccias polymict from two different parent bodies or genomict with the chondrite free material from deep within the parent body? Would love to learn what this stuff is. I do have another 30+ gram slice on the way which should reach me this week. I would consider sending this off for classification if someone would recommend a good institution that would be willing to look at it. This new slice has both clasts. Cheers, Mike Tettenborn BL67gm ind., BL99gm slice, BL6.7gm end cut, BL30gm slice - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 7:55 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Black NWA 1685 Hi Steve and List, How did this particular NWA get all this shiny black crust? This is one of the reasons why Dean's BL stone should really get classified officially! This somewhat wet look of the crust does remind me a little of achondritic crusts - eucrites, in particular, just think of Millbillillie or Stannern.. Equally interesting are those achondrite-like featureless areas totally devoid of any chondrules or larger matrix clasts. Instead, they literally consist of thousands of minute, colorful, marble-like silicates - mostly pyroxenes (judging from their colors). Best wishes, Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] nwa 1685/the black nwa
Hi tett and bernd and all.As always nice info on this most extrordinary piece.Hey tett,if you did get this classified,you would be doing all of us who have this beautiful meteorite in our collection a great service.Hey way to go on the 4 pieces.I am owner of a 198 gram individual and soon be getting a 112 gram completely black crusted individual from simon deboer who I just made a great trade with.I have a picture on my homepage of my website.Thanks so much simon.I really like to keep this thread going.I am getting tired of trade offers and such.:) steve arnold Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! www.chicagometeorites.net Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Deep (but not economically satisfiying) impact
http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070325/A_NEWS0803/703250316/-1/A_NEWS Get your meteorite shirts here The scary mother of all things beneath Stockton was recently announced: a giant crater, likely caused by a meteorite that slammed into earth 35 million years ago. Admittedly, this 3.4-mile space impact contour is 15 miles to the west below the asparagus of Victoria Island. For tourist purposes, though, we don't need to split hairs. The titanic wet impact (wet because 35 million years ago this area was ocean) powerful enough to punch a 3.4-mile hole in the ground is terrifyingly described elsewhere in today's paper. But let's focus here. Do scientists, meteorite hunters, and National Geographic film crews now make a pilgrimage here? Do they dig? What would they find? And can we cash in on it? There's probably nothing down there - nothing extraterrestrial, probably, opined Geoffrey Notkin, a meteorite hunter and science writer. Notkin operates a Tucson, Ariz., meteorite adventure hunting tour near the site of the famous Barringer Meteorite Crater, a tourist attraction. The apocalyptic force of the Victoria Island impact probably blew the meteorite, already exploded by impact with the earth's atmosphere, to smithereens, Notkin said. And most meteorites are largely composed of iron. Iron rusts away. Fragments of the Barringer Meteor survive because they are only 25,000 years old. Victoria is more than 35 million years, so forget about it. In my opinion, Notkin said, they'll never find any actual fragments. Sigh. Scrub my scheme for Victoria Island Aspara-Venture Tours. Too bad. Those Wet Impact T-shirts were going to fly off the shelves, too. What is down there, then? Impact rock called breccia, Notkin said. Rock specific to meteorite craters. Certain scientists specialize in it. We're talking impactites, rock, sand, dirt or mud, altered as a result of the meteorite; shatter cones, rocks underneath the point of impact; iridium. But - ahem, Mr. Notkin - is any of this stuff, you know, valuable? Only academically to the impact specialists for whom the Victoria Island crater is an exciting addition to the 55 known impact crater sites in North America, Notkin said. OK, well, you know, not to be shallow. I suppose the, you know, wonder of it all counts for something. The thing below Victoria Island could be a piece of the moon. That's what some meteorites are. It could be a chunk of Mars, a red refugee that sailed 35 million miles. It could be the mantle or crust of a distant dead planet. It could be a roving rhinestone from the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, a relic of the primitive solar system. A rock present in the delivery room when the planets were born. It could be older than the solar system. It could be, if you could find a piece of it, the oldest thing you could ever possibly touch. It's the only way that we earth dwellers can really touch space, Notkin said. When you hold a meteorite in your hand you touch a piece of the cosmos. Awesome. But, um. Mr. Notkin, hypothetically here - you said probably no fragments survive. What if one did? What would it be worth? That would depend on its type, rarity, condition and aesthetic value, Notkin said, but a good specimen could go for, $1,000 a gram. More than gold, platinum, even emeralds. Sheesh. Once the destiny of California, America and Mexico was radically transformed by the gold in them thar hills. Now there's a possibility, however remote, that an even more valuable substance lies buried in them thar islands. I mean, not to be crass here. I fully appreciate - I share in the wonder - of this meteorite, which lets the imagination touch the contours of something as vast as a human's capacity to marvel. But I'm not dumping my T-shirts yet, either. Contact columnist Michael Fitzgerald at (209) 546-8270 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit his blog. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The Black NWA
Ok Steve-o, I am going to keep your topic alive a little longer. I believe I own at least one of these 'BL' stones. I ground off a fractured surface this morning. Take a peek: http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/877141/bl2.jpg http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/877141/bl1.jpg http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/877141/bl3.jpg All photos were taken under natural light, so the colors are accurate. The crust is like old black leather and very thick. Here is another possible BL, though less likely because it's magnetic attraction is much higher. It is just too cute to grind, sorry: http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/877141/unclass-msb.jpg Kind regards, Mike Bandli www.Astro-Artifacts.com A Destination for Space Related Artifacts __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Dean's BL chondrite - Black NWA 1685
Mike T. wrote: I would consider sending this off for classification if someone would recommend a good institution that would be willing to look at it. This new slice has both clasts. Hello Mike, Steve, and BL fans, Some interesting tidbits about Dean's BL chondrite because Steve wrote: As always nice info on this most extrordinary piece... I really like to keep this thread going... 1. Dean believes that they are all paired because they came in together in a single bag, they all looked the same and they also had similar magnetic qualities. 2. Bruno Fectay, on the other hand, was convinced that there were seven different chondrites in Dean's lot (three stones of them Taouz 002, LL6). 3. Dirk Ross was also sure there were at least 3 different meteorite types involved 4. In August 2002, Dirk called upon other buyers of Dean's BL: Anyone wanting their NWA from Mr. Bessey classified and compared with the one that I will classify, if interested please send 5-10 grams (enough for a thin section and representing the variation within their stone). This will tell us if they are all paired or not. Please include the BL#. Please contact me offline if interested. 5. Steve Witt saw less metal than in any other chondrite he had ever seen. He wasn't even sure if it was indeed a chrondrite. He couldn't detect any chondrules in his piece. 6. Jim Baxter about BL chondrules: Interestingly in contrast to your description mine has quite a few chondrules scattered in the matrix, a slight predominance of glassy over porphyritic 7. I responded: This afternoon I looked at my cut specimen under my MBC-10 microscope and after quite some time discovered what m a y be round or somewhat oval chondrules but I am not sure ... and if they are chondrules, only a few - 3 or 4. Only a thin section* would definitely clarify this. The chondrule presence or absence thereof is especially interesting as Jim Baxter's specimen has quite a few, readily discernible, scattered chondrules in contrast to my description. * Here is my thin section decription: Both in hand specimen as in thin section there are areas that are absolutely featureless, devoid of any chondrules (some chondrule-like features can be vaguely seen) or other inclusions, and look almost achondritic. The view under crossed polars is breathtaking: While there are chondrules and mineral components of various sizes in a fine-grained, almost opaque groundmass, the featureless clast in my TS shows an incredible, equi- granular structure without any fine-grained, interstitial groundmass ... as if it had been blown or swept away. Instead, hundreds and hundreds of colorful little crystalline pearls (of olivine and pyroxene) that look as if seen from a distance. 8. With regard to the wet look of the fusion crust, Steve Witt also wrote: In areas like concavities where the crust was protected it appears to be v e r y g l o s s y . Best, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Black NWA
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 09:27:03 -0700, you wrote: Ok Steve-o, I am going to keep your topic alive a little longer. I believe I own at least one of these 'BL' stones. I ground off a fractured surface this morning. Take a peek: http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/877141/bl2.jpg http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/877141/bl1.jpg http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/877141/bl3.jpg All photos were taken under natural light, so the colors are accurate. The crust is like old black leather and very thick. That sure looks like 869 to me. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Black NWA
No, Mike, this is not the real thing ;-) Especially this one: http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/877141/unclass-msb.jpg is not one of those BL stones that were found and marketed 5 years ago. The one above is probably one of Carsten's recent offers! The real stuff is here: http://www.meteorites.com.au/oddsends/bl.html Here you can also see a picture of one of my two thin sections that shows those countless colorful pearls I mention in my description of what I see in cross-polarized light. Cheers, Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Black NWA
I am one million percent sure this is not 869. I over 10 kilos of 869 and it is definitely not it. The crust on this stone is so much more black, thick, and leathery. The matrix on this is more porous than 869. Kind regards, Mike Bandli www.Astro-Artifacts.com -Original Message- From: Darren Garrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 10:43 AM To: Mike Bandli Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Black NWA On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 09:27:03 -0700, you wrote: Ok Steve-o, I am going to keep your topic alive a little longer. I believe I own at least one of these 'BL' stones. I ground off a fractured surface this morning. Take a peek: http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/877141/bl2.jpg http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/877141/bl1.jpg http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/877141/bl3.jpg All photos were taken under natural light, so the colors are accurate. The crust is like old black leather and very thick. That sure looks like 869 to me. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGIST - Final
Dave and List, I don't know what his expert would say because I didn't ask or relay that info (sorry). You not only confirmed Norm's observations (that it was petrified wood) but added not a palm wood. So, I (for one) have no reason to doubt your expertise that it came from Utah! List members Joe Kerchner and Pete had also contacted him. Their helpful comments caused him to reconsider his meteoritic conclusions. The seller was grateful for being spared the ordeal of selling an item falsely. I think Norm phrased it well, Everyone, please be advised that, in general, professional geologists and geological academicians know less about meteorites than list members! Equally importantly, as in this case, the List members show a willingness to respectfully share that knowledge with others, great or small. But that is what the List is all about, isn't it? Best, Ken Newton Dave Freeman mjwy wrote: Dear Ken, List; Inquiring minds want to know, did my call of So. Utah/Henry Mountains stand the location test with the neighborhood wood expert? I would brim with happiness to learn that one. Woodly, Dave F. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] nwa 1685
After looking at my 198 gram individual,and seeing what looks like a upwards bubbly chondrule,mole like and 8 mm across.To me it would seem like a chondrule that was exploding outward than stopped just before it could break the surface thus keeping the beautiful crust intact.Also of all the pieces I have seen or had,I have only had 3 pieces,all the fusion crust is BLACK AND VERY GLOSSY.It has just a unique shine not like most other nwa's.I can hardly wait to get my new 112 gram completely intact specimen.Also of all the whole piece's I have seen,most of them have superb thumbprinting.I hope we can keep this thread going all day.It's even better when bernd gets involved.Also you can see my new coming piece on my homepage. steve arnold,chicago Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! www.chicagometeorites.net Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Black NWA
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 09:49:21 -0700, you wrote: I am one million percent sure this is not 869. I over 10 kilos of 869 and it is definitely not it. The crust on this stone is so much more black, thick, and leathery. The matrix on this is more porous than 869. You'd know better, looking at the real thing and not a small photo, but all the details I can see on the cut surface looked that way to me-- the often angular white clasts with sharp borders, the somewhat diffuse reddish areas, the grey matrix, all looked about right for the typical colors/shapes in 869. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Black NWA
Thank you for the input Bernd. I should mention that the first set of photos (with the window) was a stone purchased from Dean and, you are correct, the last one was purchased from Carsten. Fun stuff :) Kind regards, Mike Bandli -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 9:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Black NWA No, Mike, this is not the real thing ;-) Especially this one: http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/877141/unclass-msb.jpg is not one of those BL stones that were found and marketed 5 years ago. The one above is probably one of Carsten's recent offers! The real stuff is here: http://www.meteorites.com.au/oddsends/bl.html Here you can also see a picture of one of my two thin sections that shows those countless colorful pearls I mention in my description of what I see in cross-polarized light. Cheers, Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Space Junkyard
Not directly meteorite related, but since some here are space program related item collectors, too: http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-junkyard25mar25,0,2782733,full.story?coll=la-home-headlines North Hollywood junkyard: one giant heap for mankind By John Johnson Jr. Times Staff Writer March 25, 2007 Mounds of titanium and steel glinted in the afternoon sun, valves and pipes protruding in all directions like half-formed metal organisms. In one corner of the warehouse was a twin of the Apollo command module engine that brought Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong back from the surface of the moon nearly 40 years ago. Nearby was the second-stage motor for a Saturn V, the most powerful rocket ever used in the U.S. space program. Jonathan Goff, a 26-year-old rocket engineer, climbed atop a mound of titanium spheres once used to store highly explosive liquid oxygen rocket fuel and scanned the area for used rocket parts. This is definitely a cool place, he said. For almost five decades, Norton Sales Inc. in North Hollywood has been collecting the nuts, bolts and heat exchangers from the rockets that helped American astronauts shrug off the steely embrace of gravity. This is where the bits and pieces of America's space program came to die. Through most of its history, the space junkyard has served as part museum and part fantasy camp for wealthy collectors willing to plunk down thousands of dollars for a piece of an Apollo rocket. Some of its best customers have also been car customizers looking for cheap, spaceflight-grade hydraulic valves. Now, after decades of NASA's dominance of spaceflight, private rocketeers are launching their own commercial space industry and they are flocking to Norton Sales, junkyard of the stars. The Apollo command module engine goes for $1.5 million. That J-2 engine for the Saturn V? Yours for $500,000. A Thor rocket engine costs a relatively modest $75,000. Smaller items attractive The new generation of rocketeers is less interested in these big-ticket items than in the smaller pieces of scrap and surplus that they can use to build prototypes, often for a dime on the dollar of what it would cost to buy new parts. This is like the Holy Grail for a rocket enthusiast without much money, said Tim Pickens, president of Orion Propulsion, a rocket services company in Huntsville, Ala. Norton has supplied parts to most of the new space rocketeers, including Burt Rutan's Mojave, Calif.-based Scaled Composites, which built the first privately funded manned craft to reach the edge of space, and Elon Musk's Space Exploration Technologies Corp. in El Segundo, which launched the first privately funded craft to reach low-Earth orbit this month, though it malfunctioned after half an orbit. From the outside, Norton's 12,000-square-foot warehouse doesn't look much like a hub of the budding commercial spaceflight industry. A misspelled sign on the wall reads: Space Age Junk and Modern Collectables. It's standard Valley repair-shop culture with dusty glass counters and autographed pictures of celebrities, including the star of The Tonight Show With Jay Leno. The celebrities aren't generally rocket hobbyists. They come in looking for hydraulic pumps that they adapt to make cars jump up and down like rearing stallions. A frayed wooden gate leads to the rear of the warehouse, a dimly lighted storehouse as cold as a meat locker. Shelf upon shelf of parts reach high into the air. Rubber hoses wave from head-high shelves, like tube worms swaying around deep-sea cracks in Earth's crust. Goff and his boss, Dave Masten, ambled past what is known as the Rocketdyne aisle, because it is filled with parts made by that company. Thousands fell to the floor during the 1994 Northridge earthquake. The aisle is still nearly impassable, with piles of parts 2 feet deep. A firm's high hopes Masten heads a Santa Clara, Calif., rocket company called Masten Space Systems, which is trying to build a reusable suborbital launcher capable of carrying small payloads to space. Masten, 39, is banking on the belief that there are a lot of people who would pay to put things in space if it were cheap enough. Like many of the new breed of rocket jockeys, Masten made his fortune in computer technology. After cashing in his stock options for several million dollars, he was ready to dream again. I'm still going to be an astronaut when I grow up, he said. Masten had previously purchased some parts from Norton Sales. This visit, he and Goff weren't sure what they were buying. It's dangerous coming to a place like this, Masten said. It's like shopping on an empty stomach. Goff opened a drawer full of regulators. How much are these? he asked. A hundred, replied owner Carlos Guzman, a 40-year-old Guatemalan immigrant who started out as a worker for the original owners. Is that all? Goff replied. Norton Sales was founded by Sherman Oaks restaurateur Norton J. Holstrom, who began buying up scrap rocket parts in the
[meteorite-list] Small (5g-80g) Sikhote-Alin for Sale (Non- Shrapnel)
Hi all, My son and I bought a few kilos of small Sikhote-Alin from Eric and Sylvia in Tucson. These are pretty nice, some with nice flow lines and thumbprints. The Idea was for my Son to sell them sell slowly over the next year. He decided it was more fun to hunt meteorites than sell them. So all I wanna do is get our money back. We'll sell lots of 300 grams or more for .33 per gram (or about $100.00 per 300 grams) Here's what we have, separated by weight... Lot 1 is SA's 5-10 grams each - 1017 grams total Lot 2 is SA's 10-20 grams each - 2400 grams total Lot 3 is SA's 20-30 grams each- 1413 grams total Lot 4 is SA's 30-50 grams each- 1144 grams total Lot 5 is SA's 50-80 grams each - 883 grams total Please take a look... http://new.photos.yahoo.com/meteoritemall/album/576460762395095016#page1 Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] All Sikhote-Alin lots SOLD
Hi all, Thanks to everyone who emailed! I may be able to scrounge up another kilo or so of 20-30 gram individuals. But for now all the lots I posted are sold. Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: BLs for sale
Dear List, Anyone interested purchasing a BL meteorite (purchased from Dean) I have two for sale. BL20 370gr original weight BL27 221gr original weight Both have a portion removed and will be included with the stone purchased. I will re-weigh the stones before sale. Price is $2/gram. Please contact off list if interested. Thank you. Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
