Re: [meteorite-list] New Toluca scam on ebay

2008-07-23 Thread m42protosun

Hello Michael,
I agree with you. Pieces of Magnetite/Hematite are the most often 
offered meteoritewrongs sold to newcomers.
Because I'm a beginner to I've bought even from two IMCA members two 
pieces of 'Mekong river iron' as Nantans.
Month later I detected that they were wrongs. Asking for money back 
makes them very angry but I won.
The easiest formula for detecting offers of iron wrongs is to estimate 
the specific density. Most seller declare length, depth and hight anf 
weight of the item.


Calculate now V = (L x D x H x Pi / 6). This is the nearest estimated 
volume of an inlet speroid, that means a little more less in volume. 
Divide now the given weight by this value and you get a specifiv 
density which is hiigher then the original. If this value is less than 
7.5 this must be a meteoritewrong if is a big piece ore it is only 
shale if it is a small piece.


With this formula I'm hunting fake sellers on ebay.

Sincerely Uwe




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http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/bandedgila_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_mdoZ

Take a look at this guy, selling piles of Magnetite as Toluca 
meteorites.
I am concerned because they do resemble meteorites to the lesser 
informed and I

have lots of Toluca for sale.


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Re: [meteorite-list] New Toluca scam on ebay - a formula to detect metwrongs

2008-07-23 Thread m42protosun

Hello Michael,
I agree with you. Pieces of Magnetite/Hematite are the most often 
offered meteoritewrongs sold to newcomers.
Because I'm a beginner to I've bought even from two IMCA members two 
pieces of 'Mekong river iron' as Nantans.
Month later I detected that they were wrongs. Asking for money back 
makes them very angry but I won.
The easiest formula for detecting offers of iron wrongs is to estimate 
the specific density. Most seller declare length, depth and hight anf 
weight of the item.


Calculate now V = (L x D x H x Pi / 6). This is the nearest estimated 
volume of an inlet speroid, that means a little more less in volume. 
Divide now the given weight by this value and you get a specifiv 
density which is hiigher then the original. If this value is less than 
7.5 this must be a meteoritewrong if is a big piece ore it is only 
shale if it is a small piece.


With this formula I'm hunting fake sellers on ebay.

Sincerely Uwe



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Verschickt: Mi., 23. Jul. 2008, 0:49
Thema: [meteorite-list] New Toluca scam on ebay



http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/bandedgila_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_mdoZ

Take a look at this guy, selling piles of Magnetite as Toluca 
meteorites.
I am concerned because they do resemble meteorites to the lesser 
informed and I

have lots of Toluca for sale.


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[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - July 23, 2008

2008-07-23 Thread Michael Johnson

http://www.rocksfromspace.org/July_23_2008.html

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Re: [meteorite-list] William Barriere - Youth of Canada be warned!

2008-07-23 Thread Martin Altmann
Interesting, in which way?

Seems someone in the Chicago Field hasn't made his homework.  
Chicago has such an important collection only, because they bought as start
all specimens, which the mightiest meteorite dealer in USA of his times
brought to the Columbian exhibition in 1893. Henry Ward, was his name.

In 1912 Chicago Field outbid the Smithonian and AMNH in New York,
and purchased dealer Ward's collection from his widow for inflation-adjusted
1.8 million USD.

And of course in the following decades they enlarged the collection also in
buying from dealers too.

At least they aren't as rotten as docteure Julia in the comic strip,
wangling innocent children out of their finds  - cause I read, the Chicago
Field bought 2.7kg of Park Forest, paying to the finders 30k$.

Didn't follow that story, but wasn't that T-Rex, the main exhibit, which the
Field museum bought for 8 million or so, recovered by a dealers company too?
And Dinos are a much more sensible complex than meteorites.

Well and the famous instrument collection from the Adler Planetarium,
certainly items of a cultural heritage according the modern conception,
hence much more problematic than stones from space,
Max Adler bought naturally from a dealer, Anton Mensing.

It is and it always was the practise of all museums no matter which field of
collection they plough to amass their collections by donations, direct or
monetary ones, and by purchases from dealers.

So I'm asking, this dealer bashing and the call for - in the end one might
call it in extreme expropriation of owners or finders or dealers - a
relatively problematic intervention in the personal basic rights at least in
states under the rule of laws -
is this meanwhile commonplace or the opinion of a very few, whatever their
intention may be?

Martin



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The very picture of Park Forest.

The Alder Planetarium and Chicago Field Museum warning the public about 
dealers

The dealers riding in with fists full of cash.

Rob Wesel
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Art /ad/ something really new.

2008-07-23 Thread Mike Miller
Hello everyone I have something new to offer meteorite lovers.
Abstract Meteorite art that is based on the widmanstatten pattern of
meteorites. The artist is Arlene Schlazer and she is an avid meteorite
collector and she uses her collection to produce the art. You can
learn more about her and the art work here.
http://www.meteoritefinder.com/sale.htm
Just click on the picture and you will see 7 offerings at this time.
 Trust me when I say the art is so much better in person, if you like
the picture the actual art will floor you it is really stunning in
person. Please we would like to hear what you think about these
offerings.

--
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928-753-6825
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[meteorite-list] Problem With Catalog of Meteorites Software Problem

2008-07-23 Thread Paul
Dear Listmembers;

I am having a problem with the CD-ROM bibliography, which
comes with the Catalog of Meteorites, 5th Edition, by Grady 
and others. I have ‘tried installing it on my Latitude Dell Laptop 
with Windows XP on it. I tried running it in order to get the 
bibliography for the Atlanta, Greenwell Springs, and Red River 
meteorites. When I try opening it tells me that “CTL3D.DLL”
is missing. Does anyone know what I can do about it. I tried 
reinstalling it and gives me the same error message.

Yours,

Paul H.


  
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[meteorite-list] 218g Portales Valley

2008-07-23 Thread RJP
Good afternoon.

I would like to know if anyone would be seriously interested in generous (218g) 
metal-rich slice of Portales Valley. This is a stunning thin slice with great 
surface area; the perfect centerpiece for any collection. I am in no hurry to 
sell gem, but will consider doing so if a reasonable offer is made. If 
interested, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] for photos and additional 
information. Thank you. 

Kind Regards, 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Problem With Catalog of Meteorites SoftwareProblem

2008-07-23 Thread Sean T. Murray

My guess is that this must be a Visial Basic program:

CTL3D.DLL and CTL3DV2.DLL are Microsoft supplied support files.* Normally, 
they are installed with the Windows operating system. Some programs will 
install modified versions of those files that will cause other programs to 
not function.* CTL3D.DLL is placed in the Windows directory in the SYSTEM 
directory.* CTL3DV2.DLL is also placed in the SYSTEM directory except if the 
O.S. is Windows NT (in which case it is placed in the SYSTEM32 directory).


See if you can find it on the CD, then shove a copy of it where they say: in 
Windows/System If theres already one in there, dont delete it, just in case, 
but move it out to somewhere else, maybe a 'New Folder', stick in the good 
one off the CD... If you can't find the file on the CD, I found the 
following on Microsoft Support Knowledge base:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/97361
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/113898

Both point to the DLL you can download from MS:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/platformsdk/file/3.1/w31/en-us/ctl3d.exe

Sean

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Problem With Catalog of Meteorites 
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Dear Listmembers;

I am having a problem with the CD-ROM bibliography, which
comes with the Catalog of Meteorites, 5th Edition, by Grady
and others. I have ‘tried installing it on my Latitude Dell Laptop
with Windows XP on it. I tried running it in order to get the
bibliography for the Atlanta, Greenwell Springs, and Red River
meteorites. When I try opening it tells me that “CTL3D.DLL”
is missing. Does anyone know what I can do about it. I tried
reinstalling it and gives me the same error message.

Yours,

Paul H.



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Re: [meteorite-list] Problem With Catalog of MeteoritesSoftwareProblem

2008-07-23 Thread Martin Altmann
I had a problem with the CD too, it was running only on Windows versions
older than Windows 95.

The error which occurred in the other versions was, that certain variables
weren't given a value, hence seems to be an error in the program itself.

So it was running only, when you looked for a single meteorite, combined
sarches weren't possible anymore :-(

Martin

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Murray
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Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Problem With Catalog of
MeteoritesSoftwareProblem

My guess is that this must be a Visial Basic program:

CTL3D.DLL and CTL3DV2.DLL are Microsoft supplied support files.* Normally, 
they are installed with the Windows operating system. Some programs will 
install modified versions of those files that will cause other programs to 
not function.* CTL3D.DLL is placed in the Windows directory in the SYSTEM 
directory.* CTL3DV2.DLL is also placed in the SYSTEM directory except if the

O.S. is Windows NT (in which case it is placed in the SYSTEM32 directory).

See if you can find it on the CD, then shove a copy of it where they say: in

Windows/System If theres already one in there, dont delete it, just in case,

but move it out to somewhere else, maybe a 'New Folder', stick in the good 
one off the CD... If you can't find the file on the CD, I found the 
following on Microsoft Support Knowledge base:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/97361
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/113898

Both point to the DLL you can download from MS:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/platformsdk/file/3.1/w31/en-us/ctl3d.
exe

Sean

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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:16 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Problem With Catalog of Meteorites 
SoftwareProblem


 Dear Listmembers;

 I am having a problem with the CD-ROM bibliography, which
 comes with the Catalog of Meteorites, 5th Edition, by Grady
 and others. I have ‘tried installing it on my Latitude Dell Laptop
 with Windows XP on it. I tried running it in order to get the
 bibliography for the Atlanta, Greenwell Springs, and Red River
 meteorites. When I try opening it tells me that “CTL3D.DLL”
 is missing. Does anyone know what I can do about it. I tried
 reinstalling it and gives me the same error message.

 Yours,

 Paul H.



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[meteorite-list] Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites - Two Thumbs Up!

2008-07-23 Thread Notkin

Dear Listees:

Greetings all. I know Richard Norton and Lawrence Chitwood's new book  
Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites has already been discussed  
here, but I just received my copy -- mine is signed, aren't you  
jealous  : ) -- and it's such a terrific work I wanted to comment  
personally.


This beautifully produced 288-page full color book is an absolute must  
for all meteorite enthusiasts, and completes a great trilogy on our  
favorite subject, alongside the Nortons' other two essential works:  
Rocks from Space, and The Cambridge Encyclopedia of Meteorites.


Congratulations to Richard, and the late Lawrence Chitwood, and also  
to M-List member Dorothy Norton who was very involved with the work  
herself, contributing excellent scientific illustrations throughout,  
as well as editing and research. Dorothy just told me this morning  
that the initial printing has already sold out (!) so if you need a  
first edition snap it up quick wherever you can find it.


On a personal note, I was thrilled by the invitation to contribute, in  
a very small way, to this important work by supplying meteorite  
photographs of specimens from the Oscar Monnig Collection, The Michael  
Farmer Meteorites Collection, and the Aerolite Meteorites Collection.  
Several other List members also contributed photos, and you'll enjoy  
seeing a number of familiar meteorite hunters faces in the In The  
Field chapter. Special thanks to my pal Sonny Clary who took a  
stellar photo of Steve Arnold #1 and myself at Brenham, which was also  
included in the book.


If you haven't seen the Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites yet,  
order it ASAP. A real beauty!



With best wishes,

Geoff N.

www.aerolite.org
www.campometeorites.com

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Re: [meteorite-list] Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites - Two Thumbs Up!

2008-07-23 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hey Geoff, 
I want an autographed copy too! How did you get to be first in that line and 
how come you didn't tell me? I thought we were friends...


Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
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http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=meteorfrightp=v


--- On Wed, 7/23/08, Notkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Notkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites - Two 
 Thumbs Up!
 To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 12:36 PM
 Dear Listees:
 
 Greetings all. I know Richard Norton and Lawrence
 Chitwood's new book  
 Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites has
 already been discussed  
 here, but I just received my copy -- mine is signed,
 aren't you  
 jealous  : ) -- and it's such a terrific work I wanted
 to comment  
 personally.
 
 This beautifully produced 288-page full color book is an
 absolute must  
 for all meteorite enthusiasts, and completes a great
 trilogy on our  
 favorite subject, alongside the Nortons' other two
 essential works:  
 Rocks from Space, and The Cambridge
 Encyclopedia of Meteorites.
 
 Congratulations to Richard, and the late Lawrence Chitwood,
 and also  
 to M-List member Dorothy Norton who was very involved with
 the work  
 herself, contributing excellent scientific illustrations
 throughout,  
 as well as editing and research. Dorothy just told me this
 morning  
 that the initial printing has already sold out (!) so if
 you need a  
 first edition snap it up quick wherever you can find it.
 
 On a personal note, I was thrilled by the invitation to
 contribute, in  
 a very small way, to this important work by supplying
 meteorite  
 photographs of specimens from the Oscar Monnig Collection,
 The Michael  
 Farmer Meteorites Collection, and the Aerolite Meteorites
 Collection.  
 Several other List members also contributed photos, and
 you'll enjoy  
 seeing a number of familiar meteorite hunters faces in the
 In The  
 Field chapter. Special thanks to my pal Sonny Clary
 who took a  
 stellar photo of Steve Arnold #1 and myself at Brenham,
 which was also  
 included in the book.
 
 If you haven't seen the Field Guide to Meteors
 and Meteorites yet,  
 order it ASAP. A real beauty!
 
 
 With best wishes,
 
 Geoff N.
 
 www.aerolite.org
 www.campometeorites.com
 
 We DIG Space Rocks™
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Re: [meteorite-list] Problem With Catalog of Meteorites SoftwareProblem

2008-07-23 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Sean is right about that file. I had the Catalogue
installed on an old Win95 machine and when I tried
to install it on a new XP machine a few years later;
I ran into the same problem. Being a risk-taker,
I ran back over to my '95 machine, copied the file,
noted the directory, and stuffed it in the same place
in the XP machine, and it worked fine forever after.
The Catalogue's Insight Engine will be the only
activity on newer machines that ever looks for it
or uses it.

Sterling K. Webb
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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:16 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Problem With Catalog of Meteorites 
SoftwareProblem


Dear Listmembers;

I am having a problem with the CD-ROM bibliography, which
comes with the Catalog of Meteorites, 5th Edition, by Grady
and others. I have ‘tried installing it on my Latitude Dell Laptop
with Windows XP on it. I tried running it in order to get the
bibliography for the Atlanta, Greenwell Springs, and Red River
meteorites. When I try opening it tells me that “CTL3D.DLL”
is missing. Does anyone know what I can do about it. I tried
reinstalling it and gives me the same error message.

Yours,

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Re: [meteorite-list] Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites - Two Thumbs Up!

2008-07-23 Thread ALMitt

Hi Geoff and all,

I certainly second what Geoff has said after reviewing a copy of this 
wonderful book and it is a first class publication and no collector of 
meteorites or meteorite books should be without it!! I've tried 
unsuccessfully to buy copies of it all over the midwest. I've not 
received an answer yet from the publisher to buy a case or two. So looks 
like it is fast becoming a hard to find, newly published book. 
Congratulations to the Nortons on their effort to this wonderful resource.


--AL Mitterling

Notkin wrote:


Dear Listees:

Greetings all. I know Richard Norton and Lawrence Chitwood's new book  
Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites has already been discussed  
here, but I just received my copy -- mine is signed, aren't you  
jealous  : ) -- and it's such a terrific work I wanted to comment  
personally.


This beautifully produced 288-page full color book is an absolute 
must  for all meteorite enthusiasts, and completes a great trilogy on 
our  favorite subject, alongside the Nortons' other two essential 
works:  Rocks from Space, and The Cambridge Encyclopedia of 
Meteorites.


Congratulations to Richard, and the late Lawrence Chitwood, and also  
to M-List member Dorothy Norton who was very involved with the work  
herself, contributing excellent scientific illustrations throughout,  
as well as editing and research. Dorothy just told me this morning  
that the initial printing has already sold out (!) so if you need a  
first edition snap it up quick wherever you can find it.


On a personal note, I was thrilled by the invitation to contribute, 
in  a very small way, to this important work by supplying meteorite  
photographs of specimens from the Oscar Monnig Collection, The 
Michael  Farmer Meteorites Collection, and the Aerolite Meteorites 
Collection.  Several other List members also contributed photos, and 
you'll enjoy  seeing a number of familiar meteorite hunters faces in 
the In The  Field chapter. Special thanks to my pal Sonny Clary who 
took a  stellar photo of Steve Arnold #1 and myself at Brenham, which 
was also  included in the book.


If you haven't seen the Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites yet,  
order it ASAP. A real beauty!



With best wishes,

Geoff N.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites - Two Thumbs Up!

2008-07-23 Thread Impactika
Hello Al and Geoff, and all,
 
I have been trying to get a few cases too.
And I finally got a response. It is sold out!
And being reprinted. It will be a month, or 2, or... before it is  
available again.
 
And my copy is signed too!
Are you both jealous? ;-)
 
Anne M. Black
_www.IMPACTIKA.com_ (http://www.IMPACTIKA.com) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
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In a message dated 7/23/2008 1:55:50 PM Mountain Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Geoff and all,

I certainly second what  Geoff has said after reviewing a copy of this 
wonderful book and it is a  first class publication and no collector of 
meteorites or meteorite books  should be without it!! I've tried 
unsuccessfully to buy copies of it all  over the midwest. I've not 
received an answer yet from the publisher to buy  a case or two. So looks 
like it is fast becoming a hard to find, newly  published book. 
Congratulations to the Nortons on their effort to this  wonderful resource.

--AL Mitterling

Notkin wrote:

 Dear  Listees:

 Greetings all. I know Richard Norton and Lawrence  Chitwood's new book  
 Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites has  already been discussed  
 here, but I just received my copy -- mine  is signed, aren't you  
 jealous  : ) -- and it's such a  terrific work I wanted to comment  
 personally.

  This beautifully produced 288-page full color book is an absolute 
  must  for all meteorite enthusiasts, and completes a great trilogy on  
 our  favorite subject, alongside the Nortons' other two essential  
 works:  Rocks from Space, and The Cambridge Encyclopedia of  
 Meteorites.

 Congratulations to Richard, and the late  Lawrence Chitwood, and also  
 to M-List member Dorothy Norton who  was very involved with the work  
 herself, contributing excellent  scientific illustrations throughout,  
 as well as editing and  research. Dorothy just told me this morning  
 that the initial  printing has already sold out (!) so if you need a  
 first edition  snap it up quick wherever you can find it.

 On a personal note, I  was thrilled by the invitation to contribute, 
 in  a very small  way, to this important work by supplying meteorite  
 photographs of  specimens from the Oscar Monnig Collection, The 
 Michael  Farmer  Meteorites Collection, and the Aerolite Meteorites 
 Collection.   Several other List members also contributed photos, and 
 you'll  enjoy  seeing a number of familiar meteorite hunters faces in 
 the  In The  Field chapter. Special thanks to my pal Sonny Clary who 
  took a  stellar photo of Steve Arnold #1 and myself at Brenham, which  
 was also  included in the book.

 If you haven't  seen the Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites yet,  
 order it  ASAP. A real beauty!


 With best wishes,

  Geoff  N.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites - TwoThumbs Up!

2008-07-23 Thread Martin Altmann
Here in Germany it's still available, delivery time 3 days...



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TwoThumbs Up!

Hello Al and Geoff, and all,
 
I have been trying to get a few cases too.
And I finally got a response. It is sold out!
And being reprinted. It will be a month, or 2, or... before it is  
available again.
 
And my copy is signed too!
Are you both jealous? ;-)
 
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In a message dated 7/23/2008 1:55:50 PM Mountain Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Geoff and all,

I certainly second what  Geoff has said after reviewing a copy of this 
wonderful book and it is a  first class publication and no collector of 
meteorites or meteorite books  should be without it!! I've tried 
unsuccessfully to buy copies of it all  over the midwest. I've not 
received an answer yet from the publisher to buy  a case or two. So looks 
like it is fast becoming a hard to find, newly  published book. 
Congratulations to the Nortons on their effort to this  wonderful resource.

--AL Mitterling

Notkin wrote:

 Dear  Listees:

 Greetings all. I know Richard Norton and Lawrence  Chitwood's new book  
 Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites has  already been discussed  
 here, but I just received my copy -- mine  is signed, aren't you  
 jealous  : ) -- and it's such a  terrific work I wanted to comment  
 personally.

  This beautifully produced 288-page full color book is an absolute 
  must  for all meteorite enthusiasts, and completes a great trilogy on  
 our  favorite subject, alongside the Nortons' other two essential  
 works:  Rocks from Space, and The Cambridge Encyclopedia of  
 Meteorites.

 Congratulations to Richard, and the late  Lawrence Chitwood, and also  
 to M-List member Dorothy Norton who  was very involved with the work  
 herself, contributing excellent  scientific illustrations throughout,  
 as well as editing and  research. Dorothy just told me this morning  
 that the initial  printing has already sold out (!) so if you need a  
 first edition  snap it up quick wherever you can find it.

 On a personal note, I  was thrilled by the invitation to contribute, 
 in  a very small  way, to this important work by supplying meteorite  
 photographs of  specimens from the Oscar Monnig Collection, The 
 Michael  Farmer  Meteorites Collection, and the Aerolite Meteorites 
 Collection.   Several other List members also contributed photos, and 
 you'll  enjoy  seeing a number of familiar meteorite hunters faces in 
 the  In The  Field chapter. Special thanks to my pal Sonny Clary who 
  took a  stellar photo of Steve Arnold #1 and myself at Brenham, which  
 was also  included in the book.

 If you haven't  seen the Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites yet,  
 order it  ASAP. A real beauty!


 With best wishes,

  Geoff  N.

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[meteorite-list] Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites - Two Thumbs Up!

2008-07-23 Thread bernd . pauli
Hello All,

I just had a look at amazon.de (the German counterpart of amazon.com)
and got this piece of information:  Nur noch 4 Stück verfügbar - jetzt 
bestellen.

=  only four copies left - order (yours) now.

So, ... conclusion: Two thumbs + two toes up! ;-)

My copy isn't signed but: one of my three copies of Rocks From
Space was signed by both Richard and Dorothy some years ago!

These are the words of
a tired but happy and
retired teacher ;-)

Bernd

P.S.: Alice Cooper = School's out for summer, school's
out forever ... so I'll now leave them kids alone ;-)

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[meteorite-list] Fwd: O. R. Norton´s new book

2008-07-23 Thread Alexander Seidel
Hi Anne, Al, Geoff, and the rest of the gang...

It still seems to be available from US Amazon, at a very low price of $26.37!
(I forward my earlier message on this again, sent to the list seven days ago)

This is a wonderful book!

Alex
Berlin/Germany


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Hello all,

I wonder why on Earth everyone is so quiet about Richard O. Norton´s new 
wonderful book on this list:

--- Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites (Patrick Moore´s Practical 
Astronomy Series)

US Amazon offers it for only US$ 26.37 at the moment, have a look:

http://www.amazon.com/Meteors-Meteorites-Patrick-Practical-Astronomy/dp/1848001568/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1216234990sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Meteors-Meteorites-Patrick-Practical-Astronomy/dp/1848001568/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1216234990sr=8-1

German Amazon said still not available a few days ago, while offering it much 
more (!) expensive on it´s website at the same instant. You may order it via 
your local bookshop here in Europe, but then again it will be much more 
expensive than US Amazon offers it right now.

And it works! I just had my two copies in the mail today. With 11 days delivery 
time from US to Europe via the expedited international shipping option, and 
no customs tax in my case, this is a very good deal for a book order from the 
United States. And the price (see above) is almost unbeatable!

So folks, what are you waiting for? :-)

Alex
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[meteorite-list] Meteor Crater in 3ishD

2008-07-23 Thread Darren Garrison
http://www.amazon.com/METEOR-CRATER-ViewMaster-Reel-Set/dp/B000HQG1Q4/
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Re: [meteorite-list] 'Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites' - TwoThumbs Up!

2008-07-23 Thread lebofsky
Hi All:

As I mentioned previously, we are wanting to get a number of short reviews
(one or two paragraphs) from those of you who have the Field Guide and
have read it. This is a special book and Richard is a special person to
all of us. And, he has been the author of Centerpiece for 10 years!

Our deadline for the next issue is August 17.

Thanks in advance.

Larry

On Wed, July 23, 2008 2:20 pm, Martin Altmann wrote:
 Here in Germany it's still available, delivery time 3 days...




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 TwoThumbs Up!


 Hello Al and Geoff, and all,


 I have been trying to get a few cases too.
 And I finally got a response. It is sold out!
 And being reprinted. It will be a month, or 2, or... before it is
 available again.

 And my copy is signed too!
 Are you both jealous? ;-)


 Anne M. Black
 _www.IMPACTIKA.com_ (http://www.IMPACTIKA.com)
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 In a message dated 7/23/2008 1:55:50 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Geoff and all,


 I certainly second what  Geoff has said after reviewing a copy of this
 wonderful book and it is a  first class publication and no collector of
 meteorites or meteorite books  should be without it!! I've tried
 unsuccessfully to buy copies of it all  over the midwest. I've not
 received an answer yet from the publisher to buy  a case or two. So looks
  like it is fast becoming a hard to find, newly  published book.
 Congratulations to the Nortons on their effort to this  wonderful
 resource.

 --AL Mitterling


 Notkin wrote:


 Dear  Listees:


 Greetings all. I know Richard Norton and Lawrence  Chitwood's new book
 Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites has  already been discussed
 here, but I just received my copy -- mine  is signed, aren't you jealous
 : ) -- and it's such a  terrific work I wanted to comment
 personally.

 This beautifully produced 288-page full color book is an absolute
 must  for all meteorite enthusiasts, and completes a great trilogy on our
 favorite subject, alongside the Nortons' other two essential works:
 Rocks from Space, and The Cambridge Encyclopedia of
 Meteorites.


 Congratulations to Richard, and the late  Lawrence Chitwood, and also
 to M-List member Dorothy Norton who  was very involved with the work
 herself, contributing excellent  scientific illustrations throughout, as
 well as editing and  research. Dorothy just told me this morning that
 the initial  printing has already sold out (!) so if you need a first
 edition  snap it up quick wherever you can find it.

 On a personal note, I  was thrilled by the invitation to contribute,
 in  a very small  way, to this important work by supplying meteorite
 photographs of  specimens from the Oscar Monnig Collection, The Michael
 Farmer  Meteorites Collection, and the Aerolite Meteorites
 Collection.   Several other List members also contributed photos, and
 you'll  enjoy  seeing a number of familiar meteorite hunters faces in the
 In The  Field chapter. Special thanks to my pal Sonny Clary who
 took a  stellar photo of Steve Arnold #1 and myself at Brenham, which was
 also  included in the book.

 If you haven't  seen the Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites yet,
 order it  ASAP. A real beauty!


 With best wishes,


 Geoff  N.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Problem With Catalog of Meteorites, Software Problem

2008-07-23 Thread Marco Langbroek

Yup, the catalogue uses a DLL which was ditched in Xp.

The solution: just download it here and put it in the system folder mentioned in 
the .txt included in the download:


http://www.dll-files.com/index.shtml

- Marco

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[meteorite-list] New possible impact structures detected

2008-07-23 Thread m42protosun

Good evening list,
Using GOOGLE I have found two possible impact structures, which are 
nowhere to be found. Would you please be so kind to control my 
assumption.

Peru: 17°34'09.00'' S; 69°40'53.59'' W
Antarctica: 80°49'60.00'' S; 126°19'60.00'' E

Regards Uwe


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[meteorite-list] AD(?): Gary Foote Recovery Auction

2008-07-23 Thread Maria Haas

Hello Everyone,

I am still waiting for pictures of two items but that's not going to stop me 
from starting what I'm calling a silent auction. Auctions for nine items will 
start tonight at 7:00 PM PST and will run for seven days. The balance of the 
items will start tomorrow at 7:00 PM PST and those auctions will also run for 
seven days. Ending dates and times for each item can be found on each item's 
respective page. The auction ending times are staggered by 15 minutes to allow 
all bids to be recorded prior to the items closing. You'll see what I mean when 
you visit the website and click on what you want to bid on: 
http://meteoriteimpact.com/footeauction.htm.

Some really spectacular items have been donated:

 - An original oil on canvas depiction of the Tagish Lake fall by Jerry 
Armstrong

 - A serial numbered Nininger/Canyon Diablo coin that is #9 of only 10 that 
exist

 - A 167.2 Bassikounou fragment that has beautiful crust and the broken edge 
shows the fresh interior and two impact melt areas

 - Two Carancas fragments -- one has a visible clast

 - A 91.2 gram Vaca Muerta individual

 - An oriented NWA 869 with frothy bubbles

 - The World of Metorites from A to Z poster by Sarah Kenndy of Jensen 
Scientifics and Geoff Notkin

 - HH's copy of a SCIENCE magazine from 1961

 - Bricks from the Nininger Museum

 - NWA 4766 Mars box made by Chladni's Heirs

And there's even more than that! See everything at 
http://meteoriteimpact.com/footeauction.htm

Bid on an item by email to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by telephone to (928) 
567-6558. All bids will be recorded in the order in which I receive them. 
Telephone bids take priority over email bids so if you think there's a chance 
your email bid won't make it to me by the close of the auction please call me.

Let's not forget why we're doing this. The purpose of this auction is to raise 
money for our meteorite friends, Gary and C.J. Foote. Gary was diagnosed with 
advanced-stage prostate cancer earlier this year. He had a prostatectomy in 
April and has had several complications and an additional surgery since then. 
Their family needs help to make it through this incredibly hard time so please 
give generously by bidding on the items in our auction. This is one time where 
anything you do, no matter how small, will help them.

Hopefully, all of your questions will be answered on the website but if you 
have any others, please don't hesitate to contact me.

The website will be updated with the high bids by 7:00 pm PST each day the 
auction is running at http://meteoriteimpact.com/Highbids.htm.

Pleasant and respectful bidders only, please.

Thanks again,
Maria
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