[meteorite-list] All meteorite books and magazines are shipped!
Hi folks! I ran an ad last week offering several meteorite books, magazines, and journals. Some of you on the list purchased these materials. And before I could get them shipped, Hurricane Gustav forced us to evacuate to Tampa from Houma. I just wanted to let everyone know that I mailed the packages yesterday via Priority Mail. This includes Svend's packages and other international packages to Canada, Germany and beyond. Rest assured, if you are waiting on a package from me - it is on the way, a little late, but it's on the way. :) I would like to thank everyone for their kindness and patience in this matter. Regards, MikeG PS - I evacuated my entire collection and inventory with me. ;) . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - ebay auctions ending on saturday
Dear fellow listees, After more than a year away from ebay, meteoriteshow is back. Some of you have already seen the first week's auctions that are porposed but most of you haven't. Therefore i wish to let you have the list of meteorites that could come and enrich your collection: The link to reach the whole items listed is: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmeteoriteshow Here are now the details: 1/ METEORITE: DAG 573 L4 - 6.7g part. endcut : This is a nice piece of a L4 found on Dar Al Gani, with fusion crust and smoothly polished cut surfaces. Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/METEORITE-DAG-573-L4-6-7g-part-endcut_W0QQitemZ330263546288QQihZ014QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 2/ METEORITE: HaH299 H6 - 2.0g endpiece : This is a nice piece of an H6 ound on Hamada al Hamra, with fusion crust and smoothly polished cut surface. Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/METEORITE-HaH299-H6-2-0g-endpiece_W0QQitemZ330263546366QQihZ014QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 3/ METEORITE: NWA OC - FUSION CRUST - 53.8g indiv : This is a complete unclassified OC with fusion crust that was purchased in Erfoud in May 2008. Quite fresh! Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/METEORITE-NWA-OC-FUSION-CRUST-53-8g-indiv_W0QQitemZ330263546494QQihZ014QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 4/ METEORITE: ORIENTED NWA OC - FUSION CRUST - 39.4g indiv : This is a complete unclassified OC with fusion crust that was purchased in Erfoud in May 2008. Quite fresh! Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/METEORITE-ORIENTED-NWA-OC-FUSION-CRUST-39-4g-indiv_W0QQitemZ330263546632QQihZ014QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 5/ METEORITE: NWA XXX - 0.4g Partslice - HOWARDITE : This is a partslice of an Howardite that was purchased in Erfoud in May 2008. It is currently being examined for classification and the first reaction when the specimen for analyses was received was that it is a beautiful and very fresh Howardite. Of course, all details about classification will be forwarded as soon as available, as well as official name. Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/METEORITE-NWA-XXX-0-4g-Partslice-HOWARDITE_W0QQitemZ330263546540QQihZ014QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 6/ METEORITE: SAH 02500 L3 - 80.4g fragment : This is a fragment of Sahara 02500, a beautiful L3 with fusion crust that was found in the Sahara. Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/METEORITE-SAH-02500-L3-80-4g-fragment_W0QQitemZ330263546707QQihZ014QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 7/ METEORITE: SAH 02501 EUC - 1.9g partslice : This is a partslice of a rare type of Eucrite (see description). Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/METEORITE-SAH-02501-EUC-1-9g-partslice_W0QQitemZ330263546845QQihZ014QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I do not provide more details about these meteorites in that post as you will find all necessary information in the announcements. Fom now on, meteoriteshow will propose again meteorites every weeks on ebay and i hope that you will find the choice large enough. I am currently based in Accra, Ghana, but the meteorites are still being shipped from France, where they are all located. So do not worry about shipment's safety, which will remain the same as usual. Just to give a short explanation about my presence in Ghana, i have decided to go back to this West African country where i had spent 2 years as a French volunteer, teaching mechanical engineering. This was my very first contact with the African continent and my whole life got oriented by this fantastic experience. Therefore i always wanted to come back here and set up a tour agency in order to give a chance to other people to discover this country. The tour egency is now set up and named ABACAR Ltd. and i am planning to organize a tour focused on the Bosumtwi crater. Should this appear to be a good idea to some of you, you can e-mail me any comment to my e-mail address, so that i can do it the best way as possible. Setting up a business in Africa is not an easy challenge and it takes a lot of time, this is why i have not been very active with meteorites all those past months. But i must admit that i am a meteorites' adict and now on my way back! Just one last information (sorry if it is not directly meteorites' oriented); there is a website about my tour agency, that can be seen at www.abacar-tours.com. It is not completely finished but will already give some first idea of the place where i now live, to those of you who are interested. Thanks for checking my auctions on ebay and for bidding of course!!! Best wishes to all of you, Frederic Beroud www.meteoriteshow.com IMCA #2491 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Seeking photographer of this Willamette picture in Natural History Museum in N.Y
Greetings listees I've searched thru the archives and can't locate the photographer of this Willamette picture that was linked to within the past year.This is sitting on my website now just for this search purpose http://www.emeraldislemeteorites.com/images/willamette.jpg. Could the owner please drop me an email,thank you very much. Jim Brady http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZemeraldisleminerals __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] willamette link corrected
correct link needs that full stop taken of the end of jpg. so.http://www.emeraldislemeteorites.com/images/willamette.jpg thank you __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Amateur Astronomers See Perseids Hit the Moon
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/02sep_lunarperseids.htm Amateur Astronomers See Perseids Hit the Moon NASA Science News 09.02.2008 Sept. 2, 2008: There's more than one way to watch a meteor shower. One, the old-fashioned way: Find a dark place with starry skies and count the meteors streaking overhead. Two, the new way: Find a dark place with starry skies and then completely ignore the meteors. Instead, watch the Moon. That's where the explosions are. On August 9th, a pair of amateur astronomers on opposite sides of the United States did it the new way. With the Perseid meteor shower just underway, they fixed their cameras on the Moon and watched meteoroids slam into the lunar surface. Silent explosions equivalent to ~100 lbs of TNT produced flashes of light visible a quarter of a million miles away on Earth. It was a good night for lunar Perseids. I love watching meteor showers this way, says George Varros, who recorded this impact from his home in Mt. Airy, Maryland: The flash, which lit up a nighttime patch of Mare Nubium (the Sea of Clouds), was a bit dimmer than 7th magnitude--an easy target for my 8-inch telescope and low-light digital video camera. Hours later, another Perseid struck, on the western shore of Oceanus Procellarum (the Ocean of Storms). This time it was Robert Spellman of Azusa, California, who caught the flash. It's exciting to witness these explosions in real time, he says. I used a 10-inch telescope and an off-the-shelf Supercircuits video camera. Rob Suggs of NASA's Meteoroid Environment Office has reviewed the data. They look real to me, he says. The flashes appear in multiple video frames and the light curves are similar to other lunar meteors we've recorded in the past. Suggs would know. Along with colleague Bill Cooke, he leads a team at the Marshall Space Flight Center that has recorded more than 100 lunar explosions since 2005. We monitor lunar meteors in support of NASA's return to the Moon, Suggs says. The Moon has no atmosphere to protect the surface, so meteoroids crash right into the ground. Our program aims to measure how often that happens and answer the question, what are the risks to astronauts? NASA's official lunar meteor observatories are located in Alabama and Georgia. Both were off-line on August 9th, so the NASA team didn't see how many Perseids were hitting the Moon that night. This shows how amateur astronomers can contribute to our research, points out Suggs. We can't observe the Moon 24-7 from our corner of the USA. Clouds, sunlight, the phase of the Moonâall these factors limit our opportunities. A global network of amateur astronomers monitoring the Moon could, however, approach full coverage. By day, George Varros is a software engineer at NASA headquarters. After work, he takes off his NASA badge, goes home and fires up his self-described barely adequate telescope. Until a few years ago, I really didn't like the Moon because it interfered with my observations of comets and meteors. Then, in 1999 during the Leonid meteor storm, (fellow amateur astronomer) David Dunham photographed six lunar impact events from my backyard in Maryland, Varros recalls. I was hooked. Dunham's observations inspired not only Varros, but also NASA. Our own observing program can be traced back to those early amateur observations of lunar Leonids, says Suggs. A major advance in lunar meteor detection came in 2006 in the form of LunarScan, a computer program written by amateur astronomer Pete Gural that searches digital video of the Moon for split-second flashes. Using LunarScan, Varros has bagged at least a dozen lunar meteors. Three of them were observed simultaneously by the NASA team in Alabama, confirming the fidelity of Varros' techniques. (LunarScan may be freely downloaded from Varros' web site http://gvarros.com; NASA uses the program, too!) Like Varros, Robert Spellman's interest in lunar meteors began with the Leonids of 1999. I read about the success of amateurs recording impact flashes, he recalls. I've been in love with the Moon since my first observation when I was five years old, and I wanted to conduct an observing program with scientific value. Lunar meteors were a natural. Spellman's day job is at the Natural History Museum of Los Angeles and the La Brea tar pits where he works as an educator. He also conducts public astronomy programs three nights a week at the Griffith Observatory. The rest of his evenings he devotes to the Moon. Spellman uses no special software to catch his impacts. I look for the flashes in real time, he says. Although it may sound tedious to stare at a blank screen for hours on end, the prospect of seeing an explosion keeps me alert. In future, I do plan to use LunarScan to increase my success rate. Suggs hopes other amateurs will take up this hobby, not only to improve NASA's lunar impact statistics, but also to support the agency's LCROSS mission: In 2009, the Lunar CRater Observation and Sensing Satellite
[meteorite-list] Rosetta Flyby of Asteroid Steins Press Conference Set for Sept. 6
http://rosetta.esa.int/science-e/www/object/index.cfm?fobjectid=43347 Rosetta fly-by of asteroid Steins: press conference (first results images) European Space Agency 04 Sep 2008 First results and images from Rosetta's fly-by of asteroid Steins will be presented at a press conference, which will be webcast live, on Saturday 6 September starting at 12:00 CEST. A number of presentations will be made during the press conference covering the Rosetta mission, the challenge of implementing the fly-by, and the first results and images. Schedule of presentations for the Rosetta Steins Fly-By Press Conference Follow this link to view the press conference: http://www.esa.int/rosetta(no special plug-ins are required; the video will be available shortly before the start of the press conference ). Start time Presentation Speaker 12:00 Welcome and introduction David Southwood, Director of Science and Robotic Exploration, ESA 12:10 Rosetta: the status of the mission Gerhard Schwehm, Rosetta Mission Manager Head of Solar System Science Operations Division, ESA 12:20 Rosetta and the study of asteroids Rita Schulz, Rosetta Project Scientist, ESA 12:30 The fly-by of Steins â stretching Rosettaâs limits Andrea Accomazzo, Rosetta Spacecraft Operations Manager, ESA 12:40 Steins: first images and results Uwe Keller, OSIRIS camera Principal Investigator, Max Planck Institut für Sonnensystemforschung 12:50 ESA's plans for asteroid and space debris monitoring Gaele Winters, Director of Operations and Infrastructure, ESA 13:00 Questions Answers session, followed by interview opportunities for the media The press conference will be held at the premises of the European Space Operations Centre (ESA-ESOC), Robert-Bosch Strasse 5, 64293 Darmstadt, Germany __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - September 3, 2008
MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES September 3, 2008 o Evolution of North Polar Dunes http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_009233_2535 o Dust Devils Make Their Marks in Gusev Crater http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_009319_1650 o Ius Chasma's Floor http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_009368_1720 o Defrosted Margin of the North Polar Erg http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_009396_2590 All of the HiRISE images are archived here: http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology, for the NASA Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Lockheed Martin Space Systems, of Denver, is the prime contractor and built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the University of Arizona. Ball Aerospace and Technologies Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE instrument. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank You List Members!
Hi all, I just wanted to say thank you for all the emails I've received regarding the Sky and Telescope article - Oct. 2008 issue - that Geoff and I wrote. I also wanted to say thanks for over 175,000 views on youtube and 102 subscribers! When I started making videos last July I never thought that in just over a year I'd have made over 25 meteorite related videos and that they would have been so well received. Thanks again, Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=meteorfrightp=v __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Seeking photographer of this Willamette.
In a message dated 9/4/2008 11:01:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seeking photographer of this Willamette Hello Jim;I would be the owner of that picture of the williamette meteorite.I couldn't reach you in private.e-mail at the address below and we'll converse. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best Regards;Herman Archer IMCA # 2770 **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank You List Members!
Thank you, Ruben! The videos are great - always entertaining and informative. Isn't it about time for another one. . .? You did a great job on the article as well. Keep up the good work. Melva -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ruben Garcia Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:12 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Thank You List Members! Hi all, I just wanted to say thank you for all the emails I've received regarding the Sky and Telescope article - Oct. 2008 issue - that Geoff and I wrote. I also wanted to say thanks for over 175,000 views on youtube and 102 subscribers! When I started making videos last July I never thought that in just over a year I'd have made over 25 meteorite related videos and that they would have been so well received. Thanks again, Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=meteorfrightp=v __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lots of meteorite, asteroid, comet, solar system formation related papere
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[meteorite-list] our stone pelted planet
Hi list.Does anyone have an extra copy of OUR STONE PELTED PLANET for a reasonable cost?Off list please. Steve R.Arnold,Chicago! http://chicagometeorites.net/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Spiky Probe on Phoenix Raises Vapor Quandary
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2008-171 Spiky Probe on NASA Mars Lander Raises Vapor Quandary Jet Propulsion Laboratory September 04, 2008 TUCSON, Ariz. -- A fork-like conductivity probe has sensed humidity rising and falling beside NASA's Phoenix Mars Lander, but when stuck into the ground, its measurements so far indicate soil that is thoroughly and perplexingly dry. If you have water vapor in the air, every surface exposed to that air will have water molecules adhere to it that are somewhat mobile, even at temperatures well below freezing, said Aaron Zent of NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif., lead scientist for Phoenix's thermal and electroconductivity probe. In below-freezing permafrost terrains on Earth, that thin layer of unfrozen water molecules on soil particles can grow thick enough to support microbial life. One goal for building the conductivity probe and sending it to Mars has been to see whether the permafrost terrain of the Martian arctic has detectable thin films of unfrozen water on soil particles. By gauging how electricity moves through the soil from one prong to another, the probe can detect films of water barely more than one molecule thick. Phoenix has other tools to find clues about whether water ice at the site has melted in the past, such as identifying minerals in the soil and observing soil particles with microscopes. The conductivity probe is our main tool for checking for present-day soil moisture, said Phoenix Project Scientist Leslie Tamppari of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. Preliminary results from the latest insertion of the probe's four needles into the ground, on Wednesday and Thursday, match results from the three similar insertions in the three months since landing. All the measurements we've made so far are consistent with extremely dry soil, Zent said. There are no indications of thin films of moisture, and this is puzzling. Three other sets of observations by Phoenix, in addition to the terrestrial permafrost analogy, give reasons for expecting to find thin-film moisture in the soil. One is the conductivity probe's own measurements of relative humidity when the probe is held up in the air. The relative humidity transitions from near zero to near 100 percent with every day-night cycle, which suggests there's a lot of moisture moving in and out of the soil, Zent said. Another is Phoenix's confirmation of a hard layer containing water-ice about 5 centimeters (2 inches) or so beneath the surface. Also, handling the site's soil with the scoop on Phoenix's robotic arm and observing the disturbed soil show that it has clumping cohesiveness when first scooped up and that this cohesiveness decreases after the scooped soil sits exposed to air for a day or two. One possible explanation for those observations could be thin-film moisture in the ground. The Phoenix team is laying plans for a variation on the experiment of inserting the conductivity probe into the soil. The four successful insertions so far have all been into an undisturbed soil surface. The planned variation is to scoop away some soil first, so the inserted needles will reach closer to the subsurface ice layer. There should be some amount of unfrozen water attached to the surface of soil particles above the ice, Zent said. It may be too little to detect, but we haven't inished looking yet. The thermal and electroconductivity probe, built by Decagon Devices Inc., Pullman, Wash., is mounted on Phoenix's robotic arm. The probe is part of the lander's Microscopy, Electrochemistry and Conductivity instrument suite. The Phoenix mission is led by Peter Smith at the University of Arizona with project management at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., and development partnership at Lockheed Martin in Denver. International contributions come from the Canadian Space Agency; the University of Neuchatel, Switzerland; the universities of Copenhagen and Aarhus in Denmark; the Max Planck Institute in Germany; and the Finnish Meteorological Institute. For more about Phoenix, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/phoenix or http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu. Media contacts: Guy Webster 818-354-6278 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dwayne Brown 202-358-1726 NASA Headquarters, Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sara Hammond 520-626-1974 University of Arizona, Tucson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-171 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - September 4, 2008
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[meteorite-list] FALLING ROCKS signs (ad)
All, Had to have a few of these made up for fun: http://www.fallingrocks.com/logostuff.htm. Prices basically cover costs and include SH across the pale blue dot... All best, Dave Dave Gheesling IMCA #5967 www.fallingrocks.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - September 4, 2008
Sorry, but not the main mass of Bassikounou, I have seen photos of a 70 + kilo complete stone in Morocco, even made an offer on it. The Moroccans are very good at telling you want you want to hear in order to sell you a meteorite. I got tired of the endless BS over there, have not been back in two years, will not likely ever go back for meteorites again. Incredible stone though. Michael Farmer --- On Thu, 9/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - September 4, 2008 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 7:20 PM http://www.rocksfromspace.org/September_4_2008.html **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day -September 4, 2008
Michael All, I have no doubt that this one will be trumped in size on an official basis at some point, but rumors of a 64 kg stone that never surfaced, photos of a ~ 10 kg specimen that broke into pieces on impact and several others I've heard haven't materialized yet. Main mass is another of those terms that has a bit of an overly broad application, anyway, and I'm with you that it's just a nice complete chondrite if nothing else. Another angle or two are shown here: http://www.fallingrocks.com/Collections/Bassikounou.htm. This point re: main masses might actually make for an interesting thread here. My feeling has always been -- given that it really doesn't matter all that much to start -- that the largest intact mass recovered from a fall (or surviving slicing, etc.) is the main mass. But, to provide a recent example, the 17 kg Chergach which was broken into two pieces on impact has been officially labeled the main mass over the 14 kg individual, which is the largest intact mass. Again, it doesn't matter much really, but which one should it be (that is, of course, before photos of a 90 kg Chergach specimen from overseas showing signs of lunar inclusions in the breccia start circulating across the internet)? And, for the most part, though certainly not in every case, main mass is a bit of an overstatement to say the least for NWA classifications yet they are aggressively marketed in that way all of the time. Look forward to some thoughts/comments on this one...could be an interesting topic. All best, and welcome home, Michael, Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Farmer Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 9:26 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day -September 4, 2008 Sorry, but not the main mass of Bassikounou, I have seen photos of a 70 + kilo complete stone in Morocco, even made an offer on it. The Moroccans are very good at telling you want you want to hear in order to sell you a meteorite. I got tired of the endless BS over there, have not been back in two years, will not likely ever go back for meteorites again. Incredible stone though. Michael Farmer --- On Thu, 9/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - September 4, 2008 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 7:20 PM http://www.rocksfromspace.org/September_4_2008.html **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day -September 4, 2008
Michael All, As a PS to that last note, I want to defend Aziz Habibi, from whom I purchased this stone shortly after it was recovered in the first batch that Mohammed Zeroual acquired not long after the fall. I have no doubt whatsoever that this was at least indeed the main mass at that time, and not even rumors of anything larger surfaced until earlier this year. He did not tell me what I wanted to hear by any means, as this was simply fact at that time. For those to whom it is important to acquire main masses (and there are obviously several collectors in this regard, of which I am one occasionally), there is an inherent and understood risk of an early acquisition by virtue of the possibility (even probability) that larger specimens will later be recovered. It is what it is... Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Farmer Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 9:26 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day -September 4, 2008 Sorry, but not the main mass of Bassikounou, I have seen photos of a 70 + kilo complete stone in Morocco, even made an offer on it. The Moroccans are very good at telling you want you want to hear in order to sell you a meteorite. I got tired of the endless BS over there, have not been back in two years, will not likely ever go back for meteorites again. Incredible stone though. Michael Farmer --- On Thu, 9/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - September 4, 2008 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 7:20 PM http://www.rocksfromspace.org/September_4_2008.html **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT: Book Review: Return to the Moon
Dear List Members: The Moon and energy Helium-3 information Book by Harrison H. Schmitt http://www.nss.org/resources/books/non_fiction/review_001_return.html Best, Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day -September4, 2008
G'Day Dave That is a really nice piece. I also get puzzled over the Main Mass. We have one here NWA 231 (Provisional), it weighs in at 1048 grams. It's listed at 1054 grams, that's a difference of 6 grams. Not enough for a classification, so I suppose I should send in 20 grams and get this early NWA 231 official. Cheers Johnno - Original Message - From: Dave Gheesling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day -September4, 2008 Michael All, I have no doubt that this one will be trumped in size on an official basis at some point, but rumors of a 64 kg stone that never surfaced, photos of a ~ 10 kg specimen that broke into pieces on impact and several others I've heard haven't materialized yet. Main mass is another of those terms that has a bit of an overly broad application, anyway, and I'm with you that it's just a nice complete chondrite if nothing else. Another angle or two are shown here: http://www.fallingrocks.com/Collections/Bassikounou.htm. This point re: main masses might actually make for an interesting thread here. My feeling has always been -- given that it really doesn't matter all that much to start -- that the largest intact mass recovered from a fall (or surviving slicing, etc.) is the main mass. But, to provide a recent example, the 17 kg Chergach which was broken into two pieces on impact has been officially labeled the main mass over the 14 kg individual, which is the largest intact mass. Again, it doesn't matter much really, but which one should it be (that is, of course, before photos of a 90 kg Chergach specimen from overseas showing signs of lunar inclusions in the breccia start circulating across the internet)? And, for the most part, though certainly not in every case, main mass is a bit of an overstatement to say the least for NWA classifications yet they are aggressively marketed in that way all of the time. Look forward to some thoughts/comments on this one...could be an interesting topic. All best, and welcome home, Michael, Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Farmer Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 9:26 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day -September 4, 2008 Sorry, but not the main mass of Bassikounou, I have seen photos of a 70 + kilo complete stone in Morocco, even made an offer on it. The Moroccans are very good at telling you want you want to hear in order to sell you a meteorite. I got tired of the endless BS over there, have not been back in two years, will not likely ever go back for meteorites again. Incredible stone though. Michael Farmer --- On Thu, 9/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - September 4, 2008 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 7:20 PM http://www.rocksfromspace.org/September_4_2008.html **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day -September 4, 2008
Dave and list, Just say: amazing! Regardless of main mass. Best, Ma Lan Beijing China Web http://www.malanmeteorites.com --- On Fri, 9/5/08, Dave Gheesling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dave Gheesling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day -September 4, 2008 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 9:37 AM Michael All, As a PS to that last note, I want to defend Aziz Habibi, from whom I purchased this stone shortly after it was recovered in the first batch that Mohammed Zeroual acquired not long after the fall. I have no doubt whatsoever that this was at least indeed the main mass at that time, and not even rumors of anything larger surfaced until earlier this year. He did not tell me what I wanted to hear by any means, as this was simply fact at that time. For those to whom it is important to acquire main masses (and there are obviously several collectors in this regard, of which I am one occasionally), there is an inherent and understood risk of an early acquisition by virtue of the possibility (even probability) that larger specimens will later be recovered. It is what it is... Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Farmer Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 9:26 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day -September 4, 2008 Sorry, but not the main mass of Bassikounou, I have seen photos of a 70 + kilo complete stone in Morocco, even made an offer on it. The Moroccans are very good at telling you want you want to hear in order to sell you a meteorite. I got tired of the endless BS over there, have not been back in two years, will not likely ever go back for meteorites again. Incredible stone though. Michael Farmer --- On Thu, 9/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - September 4, 2008 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 7:20 PM http://www.rocksfromspace.org/September_4_2008.html **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
