[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 2, 2009

2009-01-02 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/January_2_2009.html 


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Re: [meteorite-list] CONUS

2009-01-02 Thread Michael L Blood
Thanks everyone (got a ton of OFF LIST email on this),
So, when we had King George(W) in rule, POTUS ran
the CONUS but deserved no bonus cuz his style was so bogus.
I think I got the locus - so now let's refocus.
Thanks, again, Michael

on 1/1/09 11:30 PM, Bob Loeffler at b...@peaktopeak.com wrote:

 CONUS = CONtinental US = the lower 48 = the 48 contiguous states = all of
 the US states except Hawaii and Alaska.  See
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_United_States;
 
 I had never heard of CONUS until I saw it in a dealer's ad here on the
 meteorite list a few months ago.
 
 Regards,
 
 Bob
 
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael L
 Blood
 Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 5:25 PM
 To: Michael Gilmer IMCA candidate; Meteorite List
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Year Freebie - Move Quick!
 
 OK,
 I plead ignorance.  WHAT IS CONUS?
 Michael
 
 on 1/1/09 9:33 AM, Michael Gilmer at michael_w_gil...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Hi Listees!
 
 To celebrate the coming of 2009, I am offering a mystery freebie
 meteorite to the first two CONUS residents to who respond to this
 post.
 
 I am giving away a free stony meteorite and a free iron meteorite.
 
 Both are small, but are quite nice for their small size.
 
 The first responder will get their choice of stone or iron.
 
 The second responder will get the other specimen not taken by responder
 #1.
 
 This offer is open to CONUS residents only.
 
 If I get a flood of responses, I will reply to the winners of the
 freebies, and will post a stop notice to the list to let everyone
 else know that the freebies are taken.
 
 Happy New Year and clear skies! :)
 
 MikeG
 
 .
 Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA)
 Member of the Meteoritical Society.
 Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network.
 Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com
 MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 2, 2009

2009-01-02 Thread Dave Gheesling
Great post, Michael!  What a stunning specimen, and it's great to see that
Svend's superb work continues to be picked up by the community...
Happy New Year to all,
Dave
www.fallingrocks.com 

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January
2,2009

http://www.rocksfromspace.org/January_2_2009.html 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 2, 2009

2009-01-02 Thread Alexander Seidel
Doesn´t this great (!) specimen show that uncleaned iron individuals, at
least in some cases (Gibeon, Sikhote-Alin, Canyon Diablo, Henbury etc..), 
can be much more appealing to our eyes than their cleaned counterparts?

Well, I for my part think so. But as always: it may just be a matter of 
perspective and it ultimately lies in the eyes of the beholder... 

Happy New Year all,
Alex
Berlin/Germany


 Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:39:15 -0500
 Von: Dave Gheesling d...@fallingrocks.com
 An: \'Michael Johnson\' mich...@spacerocksinc.com, \'Meteorite List\' 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January   
 2, 2009

 Great post, Michael!  What a stunning specimen, and it's great to see that
 Svend's superb work continues to be picked up by the community...
 Happy New Year to all,
 Dave
 www.fallingrocks.com 
 
 -Original Message-
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 Johnson
 Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 6:25 AM
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 Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January
 2,2009
 
 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/January_2_2009.html 
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New AGU presentation on Holocene Start Impacts

2009-01-02 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Wu, all - 

One of the frustrating things for me commercially in this is if you go to 
amazon for Dr. Firestone's book, you'll find that the usual set of frauds, the 
ones who screwed me so magnificently, have their books at the bottom of the 
page for his book. (I except Ed Malkowsky and Andrew Collins from this.)

However, when life hands you lemons, you make a lemon meringue pie, and in this 
case I have a mile high already made - Amazing Stories, my guide inside the 
lunatic fringe. Write me for a free copy - another freebie for Monday!

I don't know if my own amazon sales site is even working, so I don't expect 
much of a sales bounce from this, but it will help next powwow season, if I get 
that far. Of course, the big news is Tankersley's one inch thick layer of 
cometary impactites near Sandusky, and the search for one of the holocene start 
impact sites in Canada.

I am hoping for Mike Griffin's speedy departure as NASA Administrator, and 
hoping that he takes Dr. Morrison along with him.

E.P. Grondine
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 2, 2009

2009-01-02 Thread Peter Marmet
Alexander Seidel wrote:
 Doesn´t this great (!) specimen show that uncleaned iron individuals, at
 least in some cases (Gibeon, Sikhote-Alin, Canyon Diablo, Henbury etc..),
 can be much more appealing to our eyes than their cleaned counterparts?

Hi Alex and All!

I agree 100%!
Please see a few more picts of natural patina individuals here:

http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/id25.html

Cheers,
Peter

Peter Marmet
Bern, Switzerland
IMCA #2747
p.mar...@mysunrise.ch
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[meteorite-list] Carancas

2009-01-02 Thread Steve Dunklee
From astronomy magazine.


http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=aid=6726

Have a great day

Steve



  
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[meteorite-list] Happy New Year - Ruben Garcia - Dealers List - Tucson Info

2009-01-02 Thread Paul Harris

Happy New Year and Best Wishes to Everyone!

For those of you who've been looking for Ruben Garcia's website, he has 
moved his articles and video listings to The Meteorite Exchange.  All of 
Rubens articles are up and I should have all Ruben's videos listed a few 
days after we post the January issue of Meteorite-Times.  Ruben is 
listed under the Information menu. Direct URL is 
http://www.meteorite.com/blog/


To all Meteorite Dealers: This is our annual request for you to verify 
your information on our Meteorite Dealers Listing page 
http://www.meteorite.com/dealer_list.htm
Please reply off list with any changes.  Changes will be made a few days 
after we get Meteorite-Times up.


To all of you who are soon to be Tucson bound please add your 
information to our Tucson Information page.  Our Tucson Information page 
is found on Meteorite-Times.

Information page here:
http://www.meteorite-times.com/tucson/

Add your Tucson information here:
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[meteorite-list] the new fall in morroco tichka dn tahanout region

2009-01-02 Thread habibi abdelaziz
hi listoids,
first happy new year.
i get a sample today from what is supposed to be the new fall;
i heard there is found some,
i see that there are some grad of weathering already, it look like and h3 or h4,
may be it fall in snow and become so weathered ,
when i polish without water it look fresh inside also when i brook the sample 
its lloks fresh, the crust also
i will be sur once its classified,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/azizhabibi/
see photo here and tell me what do you think, and for you to judge.

my best
aziz habibi

 habibi aziz 
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[meteorite-list] the new fall contunue// tichka mountains

2009-01-02 Thread habibi abdelaziz
hi again
just a short note to say,
that there is may be many kilos found and there is a fight for it,split on 3 
places,an area of more than 4000 km square.
taddart tahanout and tichka , could be more places as far as things goes we 
will hear defenitly tomorow of the aproximate amount of kilo's,
the center of the fall is may be tichka mountain full of snow now, according to 
the fireball and the sonic boum its big.
it become from houre to houre sur that its sur that the sample i get is from 
the new fall;

my best
aziz habibi

 font style=BACKGROUND-COLOR:#40; face=comic sans mshabibi aziz 
box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco 
phone. 21235576145 
fax.21235576170/font 


  
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[meteorite-list] RE: Happy New Year - Ruben Garcia

2009-01-02 Thread Norbert Classen
Hi Paul, and All,

A Happy, Healthy and Prosper New Year to you all.

Did anyone have a look at Ruben's old URL - there's an article about
meteorite hunting on this new site that sounds pretty (babel-)fishy... If
you want to have a good laugh have a look at:

http://www.mr-meteorite.com/treasure-hunting-for-meteorites/

There's a great definition of meteorite, for example:

A healthy intent imagining in outdoor space which survives a stroke with a
earth’s aspect is called a meteorite.

Hmmm ;-?

My favorite howler:

Be unequivocally clever with singular earth magnets since they will repairs
credit cards, dungeon phones, computers, PDAs as well as alternative
electronic equipment.

Good advise, huh? I'm just wondering where I could possibly get such a darn
dungeon phone! Any dungeolar for sale ,-?

All the best,
Norbert

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-

Happy New Year and Best Wishes to Everyone!

For those of you who've been looking for Ruben Garcia's website, he has
moved his articles and video listings to The Meteorite Exchange.  All of
Rubens articles are up and I should have all Ruben's videos listed a few
days after we post the January issue of Meteorite-Times.  Ruben is listed
under the Information menu. Direct URL is http://www.meteorite.com/blog/

To all Meteorite Dealers: This is our annual request for you to verify your
information on our Meteorite Dealers Listing page
http://www.meteorite.com/dealer_list.htm
Please reply off list with any changes.  Changes will be made a few days
after we get Meteorite-Times up.

To all of you who are soon to be Tucson bound please add your information to
our Tucson Information page.  Our Tucson Information page is found on
Meteorite-Times.
Information page here:
http://www.meteorite-times.com/tucson/

Add your Tucson information here:
http://www.meteorite-times.com/tucson/form/

Thank you!

Paul and Jim



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[meteorite-list] Humor Alert! = Meteorite Dungeon: Was Ruben Garcia

2009-01-02 Thread bernd . pauli
Norbert jokingly:

Good advise, huh? I'm just wondering where I could possibly
 get  such a darn dungeon phone! Any dungeolar for sale ,-?

Ahem, ... what about the London Tower??? If they can't help,
you might surely ask Henry VIII or one of his beheaded loved
ones :-))

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] Estherville, Mesosiderite Micrographs

2009-01-02 Thread STARSANDSCOPES
Hi list,  I just took some very beautiful  micrographs of Estherville, Iowa, 
Mesosiderite.  This meteorite fell May  10,1879.

The magnification is approximately 160X with a field of view of  0.40 mm 
taken in cross polarized transmitted light.

If any one wants to  take a look, just email me.  11 shots embedded (no files 
to open  up).

Tom Phillips  

**New year...new news.  Be the first to know what is making 
headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026)
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Re: [meteorite-list] the new fall contunue// tichka mountains

2009-01-02 Thread Michael Farmer
What do you mean 4000KM 2, this would be one of the largest falls known. I have 
not heard much about it, so I doubt that it could be that impressive. More 
likely pieces of a fresh chondrite, or chergach, or Bassikounou. 
Michael Farmer


--- On Fri, 1/2/09, habibi abdelaziz azizhab...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: habibi abdelaziz azizhab...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] the  new fall contunue// tichka mountains
 To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 4:31 PM
 hi again
 just a short note to say,
 that there is may be many kilos found and there is a fight
 for it,split on 3 places,an area of more than 4000 km
 square.
 taddart tahanout and tichka , could be more places as far
 as things goes we will hear defenitly tomorow of the
 aproximate amount of kilo's,
 the center of the fall is may be tichka mountain full of
 snow now, according to the fireball and the sonic boum its
 big.
 it become from houre to houre sur that its sur that the
 sample i get is from the new fall;
 
 my best
 aziz habibi
 
  font style=BACKGROUND-COLOR:#40;
 face=comic sans mshabibi aziz 
 box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco 
 phone. 21235576145 
 fax.21235576170/font 
 
 
   
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[meteorite-list] Ad/sale Etched Taza added to my web site

2009-01-02 Thread Mike Miller
Hi all I have added a couple VERY nice end cuts of the Taza Plessetic
octahedrite meteorite to my site you can see them here

http://www.meteoritefinder.com/whats-new-sale.htmThanks


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 928-753-6825
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[meteorite-list] Anyone in the area of Tok Alaska?

2009-01-02 Thread Michael Murray

Possible bolide in that area today.

Mike in CO
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Re: [meteorite-list] Happy New Year - Ruben Garcia

2009-01-02 Thread tracy latimer

It looks like the new owner ported all his old blog entries over to the site.  
He has entries going back into 2005, at which time I know Ruben still 
controlled it.
 
Howlers indeed!
Tracy Latimer


 From: riffr...@timewarp.de
 To: p...@meteorite.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 00:43:39 +0100
 Subject: [meteorite-list] RE: Happy New Year - Ruben Garcia

 Hi Paul, and All,

 A Happy, Healthy and Prosper New Year to you all.

 Did anyone have a look at Ruben's old URL - there's an article about
 meteorite hunting on this new site that sounds pretty (babel-)fishy... If
 you want to have a good laugh have a look at:

 http://www.mr-meteorite.com/treasure-hunting-for-meteorites/

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[meteorite-list] Estherville pic

2009-01-02 Thread bernd . pauli
Good morning Tom and List,

Well, good morning because it's 01:40 our time and I had better go to bed now!
Always interested as you probably know! Here's one of my Estherville pics that
I took some years ago. Magnification is only 8x, but so beautiful, so very 
color-
ful!!!

All the best
for 2009,

Bernd


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[meteorite-list] Re : the new fall contunue// tichka mountains

2009-01-02 Thread habibi abdelaziz
hi mike
4000km power 2 means 100 km* 40km.
that's mean it has been heard over irghem and over tichka and over tahenout so 
between all its over 4000 km square , not exponential,
it has been seen over the third of morroco;so calculate and you will see,
the fireball make the entry in atmosphere and true meteorite all along the 
tragectory,
this what has happened to zag more than 4000 km² , and to amgala more than 5000 
km², and most of the falls,
so question of how you say 4000km².you do the square root of 4000km² and it 
become small :-).
back to what is it, under my microscope its an H3 OR 4 ? HIGHLY MAGNETIC.
firts thought when i saw it i sad there could be a scam and it coud be 
bassikounou not chergash,
but looking closely its may be different and i wrote i will wait for analysis,
we will see , but we have a new big fall in our hand and the more there are  
the more it's belish,

thanks for your comment mike and happy new year.

my best
aziz


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box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco 
phone. 21235576145 
fax.21235576170/font 



- Message d'origine 
De : Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com
À : meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; habibi abdelaziz 
azizhab...@yahoo.com
Envoyé le : Samedi, 3 Janvier 2009, 1h22mn 19s
Objet : Re: [meteorite-list] the new fall contunue// tichka mountains

What do you mean 4000KM 2, this would be one of the largest falls known. I have 
not heard much about it, so I doubt that it could be that impressive. More 
likely pieces of a fresh chondrite, or chergach, or Bassikounou. 
Michael Farmer


--- On Fri, 1/2/09, habibi abdelaziz azizhab...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: habibi abdelaziz azizhab...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] the  new fall contunue// tichka mountains
 To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 4:31 PM
 hi again
 just a short note to say,
 that there is may be many kilos found and there is a fight
 for it,split on 3 places,an area of more than 4000 km
 square.
 taddart tahanout and tichka , could be more places as far
 as things goes we will hear defenitly tomorow of the
 aproximate amount of kilo's,
 the center of the fall is may be tichka mountain full of
 snow now, according to the fireball and the sonic boum its
 big.
 it become from houre to houre sur that its sur that the
 sample i get is from the new fall;
 
 my best
 aziz habibi
 
  font style=BACKGROUND-COLOR:#40;
 face=comic sans mshabibi aziz 
 box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco 
 phone. 21235576145 
 fax.21235576170/font 
 
 
      
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Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas

2009-01-02 Thread Jerry Flaherty
. You just wonder how many other lakes and ponds were created by stony 
meteorites, says Schultz.


I live in Plymouth, MA, the land of 360 ponds, many of which are actually 
moderate sized lakes..
Thanks for the article Steve. An additional motivation to invest in an 
underwater detector to confirm or dispute my own personal suspisions about 
some of their origins.

Jerry Flaherty
- Original Message - 
From: Steve Dunklee sdunklee72...@yahoo.com

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 12:36 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Carancas



From astronomy magazine.


http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=aid=6726

Have a great day

Steve




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[meteorite-list] AD SALE METEORITE AUCTIONS ON EBAY ENDING BETWEEN 1/4 AND 1/09/09

2009-01-02 Thread Brian Cox

Hello List Members,

Happy New Year!

I hope everyone is having a Great week!

I have several ebay auctions ending 1/4 and over the next few days.

Please take a look.

 WESTON METEORITE RARE .254 gm H4 COA IMCA USA FIRST MET
 AMERICA'S FIRST METEORITE 0.254 gm FROM BRITISH MUSEUM  Item number: 
280299170735



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Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas

2009-01-02 Thread Mr EMan
Hey stimulate the economy buy the detector and wetsuit and have at it, Jerry 
you might defeat the odds at that.

BUT of those 360+ natural ponds, at least 359 of them are kettle lakes with 
glacial origins..any impact pit/crater older than 8000-13,000 years would 
have been filled by glacial debris. Seems like a soil sampling auger would be 
more meaningful than a metal detector.  Frankly, given a 300+ year Anglo 
history in New England, I'll further wager at least 359 of those ponds have 
iron in them anyway.  I always hedge against the 6thSD outlier. The only way to 
know for sure is sample them all.

Elton

--- On Fri, 1/2/09, Jerry Flaherty g...@verizon.net wrote:
I live in Plymouth, MA, the land of 360 ponds, many of which are actually 
moderate sized lakes..Thanks for the article Steve. An additional motivation to 
invest in an underwater detector to confirm or dispute my own personal 
suspisions about some of their origins.
Jerry Flaherty
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[meteorite-list] Alaska Town Abuzz Over Mystery Sky Explosion

2009-01-02 Thread Sterling K. Webb
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,475291,00.html

Alaska Town Abuzz Over Mystery Sky Explosion
Friday, January 02, 2009
 
FAIRBANKS, Alaska  -  Was it a meteor falling from space?
Officials think that might be what residents saw shooting through 
the Alaska sky near Tok on Monday afternoon.

A tremendous explosion, like a sonic boom, drew some people 
outside, where they watched irregular contrails scribe a path in a 
clear sky.

At her home four miles west of Tok, Kathy Olding was loading 
a large sled with firewood to haul to her house when she was 
startled by an explosion.

Peering out from the tarp-covered wood pile, she saw even 
her imperturbable Chesapeake Bay retriever, Journey, was 
on edge, ears cocked.

I could kind of hear it still rumbling, like thunder, she recalled. 
I thought, what in the world?

Turning her eyes to the sky, Olding saw the oddest contrail.
It was just like somebody took a pen and made a white 
cloud that went up and down and up and down and squiggly, 
she said, describing the pattern.

Others called 911.

Alaska State Troopers dispatcher Diane Kendall fielded 
several calls starting about 3:30 p.m. Most reported a 
loud explosion.

One caller, an adult, told Kendall an 11-year-old witnessed 
the entire spectacle outside.

He said it was like a big fireball that exploded, with 
smoke everywhere, Kendall relayed. The kid said, 
'I think it was a meteor,' and I went, right. The Martians 
have landed. But then I got three other calls, boom, 
boom, boom. I was pretty shocked.

People reported hearing and feeling an explosion in 
the air, but no one called in about debris falling from 
the sky, said Sgt. Freddie Wells, the state trooper on 
duty at the time.

Responding to the reports, he went out and cas is highly 
unusual for many, many Tokites to have heard this explosion, 
Olding wrote in an e-mail. Does ANYONE know what it was? 
We are all dying to know.

News that the mysterious incident was likely a meteor was 
somewhat reassuring, laying to rest Martian theories.
We're looking for UFOs around here, Sgt. Wells joked.
Chappelow said nearly all meteors that leave visible trails 
in the atmosphere are no bigger than a BB, and most are 
as tiny as a grain of sand.

The brightness comes from the speed with which meteors 
travel into the Earth's atmosphere.


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[meteorite-list] Pallasite vs. Mesosiderite

2009-01-02 Thread Mr EMan
This is a lost draft regarding the question about pallesites vs mesosiderites 
in the for what it is worth category.

These two types of meteorites were trasditionally lumped together for a very 
long long time as stony-irons.   We know now they have little in common 
chemically nor in point of origin.  

Two examples that can appear similar are Huckitta; a pallasite and Vaca Muerta; 
a mesosiderite. Given that they were widely available stony irons that happened 
to superficially resemble each other owing to extensive weathering.  This 
perpetuated the misconception that they were related, IMO.  

Pallasites contain the mineral assemblage magnesium iron silicate with the 
formula (Mg,Fe)2SiO4.aka olivine wich is a mixture of the minerals forresterite 
and fayalite. In fact a pallasite vs mesosiderite distinction is the silicate 
in pallasites are olivine (Mg,Fe)2SiO4,  where the mesosiderite's pyroxene 
silicates are mostly XY(Si,Al)2O6 

I do not know for sure I am fairly certain that notuing more than a trace of 
olivine--neither massive or  pallasite-like olivine crystals have been found 
in mesosiderites. 

All mesosiderites have been linked to a single parent body totally disrupted 
both with extensively intermixed strata.  Mesosiderites are an assemblage of 
iron, eucrite, diogenite, impact melt breccia, howardite soup--you name it.  By 
disrupted I mean really comingled with lots of surface and mantle material shot 
through the center and into the other side, flash melting, biblical porportions 
of chaos crumbled up silicates with iron chunks for flavor mixing.

Pallasites represent a less mixed, none-the-less disrupted parent body-- 
specifically, material from the mantle core boundary*. The olivine within the 
metal portions was emplaced in the iron via a yet to be confirmed process. 
Possible via a cumulate condensation or a impact imparted sloshing of a magma 
chamber in contact with the molten core.   Because there are Widmanstatten 
patterns in pallasites we know that whatever the process, it wasn't the one 
that excavated the meteorites from the core of the parent body because rapid 
cooling would not allow those patterns to form.

Some recent finds show entire sections void of olivine crystals all together ( 
hence siderite portions).  I haven't looked it up recently but unlike a 
single parent in mesosiderites there are 7-13 separate parent bodies sampled in 
the worlds sampling of pallasites.

AS mentioned before, very weathered pallesites can supreficially resemble 
mesosiderites such as is the case with Huckitta. Almost everyone owns some 
Huckitta which dosen't look at all like a typical pallasite.  Much of the 
Huckitta in private collections is not the pristeen olivine metal mix we know 
so well but oxiadized metal and hydrated silicates. It looks like a meso in 
many appearance respects. Couple this with the availability of Vaca Muerta and 
in absence of anything else for comparrison  and it is easy to see why anyone 
would assume they were very related.

Elton
* there is a theory about iron pools/pockets not at the core of asteroids but 
those are hard to explain rotationaly etc.

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