Of course, if anyone here is familiar with Tintin (in particular,
Tintin and The Shooting Star), one knows that the elements in at
least some meteorites can create such beasts...
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Many studies have been done which suggest some microbes or Archaea could
potentially survive a short trip to mars inside a rock (under perfect
ideal conditions that is), even Lichen has been shown to survive in
space. But the physics of a suitable impact would suggest that at best
we would be
I think most scientists would call it a terrestrial meteorite, or
perhaps a terran meteorite.
jeff
Pete shu...@clearwire.net wrote:
We have the Martian type meteorite, and we have the
Lunar meteorite and last, the asteroid 4Vesta meteorite.
These we know where they come from.
Now the
Dear List,
I cannot resist to the temptation to show, to the fans of chondrules, the
images of the thin sections (NWA 5731, LL3) which I have just obtained. Just
for the pleasure of eyes, these thin sections shall be for sale to Ensisheim.
These images from Damien Mollex are in a page of the
I was watching Meteorite Men again last night and was wondering if anyone knows
if the program is a series or if it is a single, stand alone program?
(Jeff or Steve?)
It certainly appears to be the first in a series, but I haven't seen anything
to confirm this.
Thanks
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Hello List,
I have added a few things to my Ebay Store. Some cool Oriented Gaos and
other oddities.
Of note is the 20% sale I am running on the Thin Sections for this weekend
(starting at 1pm Eastern). They were priced low to start with. 20% off
is a great deal.
Even if you don't
Sorry, Geoff... Not Jeff
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Richard
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Hi all -
One of the big reasons for the push behind panspermia comes from the usual
manned Mars flight nuts who hope to wish away the back-contamination problem.
One can read Zubrin or his followers to see examples this kind of wishful hand
waving and jumping and shouting (Fearing the
Hmmm...
Though related to my questions, it's not exactly what I was referring
to... I'm not familiar with Zubrin, but it sounds as if it's not really
something I want to get into a debate about. Your comment about
pathogens and manned flight returning from Mars poses a serious implication.
Bonjour, salut, Léa et Philippe,
I cannot resist to the temptation to show, to the fans of chondrules, the
images of the thin sections (NWA 5731, LL3) which I have just obtained.
Wow! Definitely a feast for a chondrule lover's eyes! Will have to buy a slice
of NWA 5731 and a thin section (or
Pete sometime let me tell you about the First Church of the Navelites.. but to
your question
They would be called meteorites until identified as originating from the
Earth--then the debate is opened up again.
Recently someone at NASA or in the IAU stated the new definition of meteorite
I thought I would add a little something to the thin section posts.
I have become a very big fan of thin sections since my introduction to them. I
find they offer a really unique look into just what meteorites really are.
I owe a big thanks to Anthony Love at App State for sparking my interest
Totally agree with Mark's quote below about Panspermia. As to reverse
contamination-- studies so far suggest launching and landing temperatures are
sufficiently low that neither process sterilizes the cargo: Mars to Earth or
Earth to Mars transport.
Elton
--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Mark Ford
Thanks to Eric for starting this discussion. It's been great reading
- pass the popcorn. :)
One thought from the peanut gallery - what if we (or some other
species) accidentally terraformed a world by contaminating it with
microbes? Imagine if a world like Mars got infected (so to speak)
with a
There are really two kinds of panspermia. The extreme sort, which is hard to
take seriously, is that life was seeded on Earth from deep space. The other,
which is hard _not_ to take seriously, is that life (or its building blocks)
might have been distributed within the Solar System by impacts.
Uh oh, too late! I have a few Martian crumbs in my collection. *cough* *cough*
Getting dizzy...
Carl
Eric wrote:
...Your comment about
pathogens and manned flight returning from Mars poses a serious implication...
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Lauren
Greg C. writes: I thought I would add a little something to the thin section
posts.
A little something is clearly an understatement. Wow! Thanks for sharing them
with us! Beautiful insights into the microcosmos of our beloved meteorites!
Best wishes,
Bernd
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Thanks to Eric for starting this discussion. It's been great reading
- pass the popcorn. :)
One thought from the peanut gallery - what if we (or some other
species)
Hyperventilate and start drinking Sterno...
Chris
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Yes, I recall a movie about hyperventilation. Don't remember the sterno part,
though. Feel better already, thanks! *wheeze*
Carl
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Elton,
There you go again providing the perfect answers. Thank you.
I have a few follow-up questions for you;
If an Earth meteorite (terrene) were to return back to Earth, would we be able
to identify it correctly? That is to say would we not simply ASSume it came
from the moon? As a moon
I caught Andromeda Strain from a Tagish Lake sample when I first
started collecting. 500mg of Amoxicillin, twice a day, knocked it out
pretty quick. ;)
On 6/5/09, Carl 's carloselgua...@hotmail.com wrote:
Yes, I recall a movie about hyperventilation. Don't remember the sterno
part,
Better yet...
I recommend 10mg of NWA 998 crumbs in a glass of champagne, followed by 20mg
of NWA 482 (or 3163) in a glass of iced rum and coke (fizzles pretty well!
or was that my brain?!).
Don't laugh, really happened, except for the fizzled brain (but now I am
beginning to wonder a few
All kidding aside - I had a customer tell me once, that many years
ago, back in the 1950s when he was a kid, he got his hands on some
trinitite and proceeded to eat a piece of it. He thought he might
acquire super powers - like the comic books said at that time. After
some back and forth, I
I propose an experiment..
A small container containing a mixture of gasses
that are the equal to a Mars atmosphere with
a mixture of some material from a Mars meteorite.
(Such material needs to come from the center of
the meteorite to lessen the chances of contamination
from earth origins).
On a more realistic note...(though I applaud the jocularity)
The whole fear that return samples from Mars, either by robotic mission or
manned, seems thoroughly irrational to me.
The very idea that a microbe that MAY exist on present day Mars that will have
spent 3 Aeons adapting to a cold,
This is a recurrent theme, one I am interested in myself and when I first
joined this list I heard a lot of really good stuff but never saved the mails.
Earth vs lunar is quite easy to nail down. The geology of lunar meteorites tend
to be rather similar despite different physical appearances.
Btw. Are there already results of the SPORES and the MARSTOX II experiments
available?
Best!
Martin
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Well, some further thoughts
There are some things we would not be able to control.
The gravitational field.
The electrical field and it's associated magnetic field.
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that there was lightning
on Mars. This would provide that requsite lightning strike.
An
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This all reminds me of the experiment that Dr. Harold Urey performed many
years ago that produced amino acids from inorganic chemicals that simulated
an early earth environment.
GeoZay
There are some things we would not be able to control.
The gravitational field.
The electrical field and
You are too kind, Carl. Let me address your questions inside your quote:
--- On Fri, 6/5/09, cdtuc...@cox.net cdtuc...@cox.net wrote:
Q: I have a few follow-up questions for you; If an Earth meteorite (terrene)
were to return back to Earth, would we be able to identify it correctly?
A: Yes
OOps Popagui is spelled Popigai and is almost the same age as Chesapeake Bay.
I am aware there is a lot of brecciated quartzite in the rim so it is another
candidate for producing Earthites
Elton
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Hi, E and List,
Bret Gladman's simulations of rocks blasted off
the Earth by impact show about 50% of them being
re-captured from independent orbits and returning
as meteorites. The time scale for re-capture varies
from 10,000 years to 10,000,000 years. So, if there
were any returns from the
Hi, Pete, List
These experiments have been done, starting early
in the 1950's. They were called Mars Jars! In general,
the answer is that Earthly life of the simple and tough
varieties does very well in a wide range of other-worldly
environments. This without enough time to genetically
adapt
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