[meteorite-list] Puerto Rico Meteor/Meteorite Impact with Fire Reported

2009-07-26 Thread drtanuki

http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/
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Re: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites

2009-07-26 Thread Peter Scherff
Hi,

A Martian meteorite officially exists:
http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/index.php?sea=marssfor=placesants=falls=va
lids=stype=exactlrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Marssrt=namecateg=Allmbl
ist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=nocode=32789


Peter

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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Martin
Altmann
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 6:38 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites

Meteorites on Moon are officially called meteorites.

Find in the search form of the Bulletin database in the field, where you
select the countries: Moon.
http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php

Official Meteorites on Mars can't exist yet,
because we still have no possibilities to hand in the mandatory deposit
masses at the classifying institutes,
therefore they can't be recognized as official meteorites according the
rules of NomCom.

I'd say.
Martin



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Gesendet: Freitag, 24. Juli 2009 12:27
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Betreff: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites


I don't know if this has ever been talked about before but if you found a
meteorite on mars or the moon when we have people there, what are we going
to call them? Unless we change the definitions we can't call ones from mars,
martian meteorites. Any ideas people?

Have a great day

Steve Dunklee


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites

2009-07-26 Thread Richard Kowalski

This link may work better for some:

http://tinyurl.com/lxobxd

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--- On Sun, 7/26/09, Peter Scherff petersche...@rcn.com wrote:

 From: Peter Scherff petersche...@rcn.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites
 To: 'Martin Altmann' altm...@meteorite-martin.de, 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 5:00 AM
 Hi,
 
     A Martian meteorite officially
 exists:
 http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/index.php?sea=marssfor=placesants=falls=va
 lids=stype=exactlrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Marssrt=namecateg=Allmbl
 ist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=nocode=32789
 
 
 Peter
 
 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]
 On Behalf Of Martin
 Altmann
 Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 6:38 AM
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites
 
 Meteorites on Moon are officially called meteorites.
 
 Find in the search form of the Bulletin database in the
 field, where you
 select the countries: Moon.
 http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php
 
 Official Meteorites on Mars can't exist yet,
 because we still have no possibilities to hand in the
 mandatory deposit
 masses at the classifying institutes,
 therefore they can't be recognized as official meteorites
 according the
 rules of NomCom.
 
 I'd say.
 Martin
 
 
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]
 Im Auftrag von Steve
 Dunklee
 Gesendet: Freitag, 24. Juli 2009 12:27
 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Betreff: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites
 
 
 I don't know if this has ever been talked about before but
 if you found a
 meteorite on mars or the moon when we have people there,
 what are we going
 to call them? Unless we change the definitions we can't
 call ones from mars,
 martian meteorites. Any ideas people?
 
 Have a great day
 
 Steve Dunklee
 
 
       
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[meteorite-list] Asteroid 2008TC3 meteorite Almahta Sitta

2009-07-26 Thread Stephan Kambach

Hello List

Owner of the webside, Siegfried Haberer did make the change on the side. 
Sale

and Galerie can be read in your language.
All your males before I did forwarded to him.

Sincerely, Stephan Kambach



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[meteorite-list] Asteroid 2008TC3 meteorite Almahta Sitta

2009-07-26 Thread Stephan Kambach

Hello List

Owner of the webside, Siegfried Haberer did make the change on the side. 
Sale

and Galerie can be read in your language.
All your males before I did forwarded to him.

Sincerely, Stephan Kambach

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Re: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites

2009-07-26 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 06:43:22 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:


This link may work better for some:

http://tinyurl.com/lxobxd

You don't have to resort to tinyurl-- look at the very bottom of any page you
come up with in the metbase, and there is a text link direct link to this
page.  The link for this page is:

http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/index.php?code=32789
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[meteorite-list] AD 2008TC3 in english / sale and galerie

2009-07-26 Thread Stephan Kambach

Hello List

Owner of the webside, Siegfried Haberer did make the change onthe side. Sale 
and Galerie can be read in your language.

All your males before I did forwarded to him.

Sincerely, Stephan Kambach

http://www.haberer-meteorite.de/english/Asteroid%202008%20tc3/Asteroid%202008%20TC3.html



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Re: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites

2009-07-26 Thread Richard Kowalski

Thanks for pointing that out Darren. I hadn't noticed that before. That would 
have been better than my post and certainly much better than the original link.

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--- On Sun, 7/26/09, Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net wrote:

 From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 8:24 AM
 On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 06:43:22 -0700
 (PDT), you wrote:
 
 
 This link may work better for some:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/lxobxd
 
 You don't have to resort to tinyurl-- look at the very
 bottom of any page you
 come up with in the metbase, and there is a text link
 direct link to this
 page.  The link for this page is:
 
 http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/index.php?code=32789
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - July 25, 2009

2009-07-26 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
What a great photo.  Rob's daughter is adorable.  I hope to expose my
grandson to meteorites when he gets a little older - maybe he can help
Pops clean the caliche off the UNWA. :)


On 7/25/09, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Ah!

 That explains why my last order from Rob was soaking wet when I opened the
 box!


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 From: spacerocks...@aol.com spacerocks...@aol.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - July 25,
 2009
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 1:46 PM
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Re: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites

2009-07-26 Thread Pete Shugar

Wonder whatthis costs per gram?
Pete

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From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com
To: 'Martin Altmann' altm...@meteorite-martin.de; 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Peter Scherff 
petersche...@rcn.com

Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites



This link may work better for some:

http://tinyurl.com/lxobxd

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IMCA #1081


--- On Sun, 7/26/09, Peter Scherff petersche...@rcn.com wrote:


From: Peter Scherff petersche...@rcn.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites
To: 'Martin Altmann' altm...@meteorite-martin.de, 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Date: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 5:00 AM
Hi,

A Martian meteorite officially
exists:
http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/index.php?sea=marssfor=placesants=falls=va
lids=stype=exactlrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Marssrt=namecateg=Allmbl
ist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=nocode=32789


Peter

-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]
On Behalf Of Martin
Altmann
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 6:38 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites

Meteorites on Moon are officially called meteorites.

Find in the search form of the Bulletin database in the
field, where you
select the countries: Moon.
http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php

Official Meteorites on Mars can't exist yet,
because we still have no possibilities to hand in the
mandatory deposit
masses at the classifying institutes,
therefore they can't be recognized as official meteorites
according the
rules of NomCom.

I'd say.
Martin



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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]
Im Auftrag von Steve
Dunklee
Gesendet: Freitag, 24. Juli 2009 12:27
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites


I don't know if this has ever been talked about before but
if you found a
meteorite on mars or the moon when we have people there,
what are we going
to call them? Unless we change the definitions we can't
call ones from mars,
martian meteorites. Any ideas people?

Have a great day

Steve Dunklee



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Re: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites

2009-07-26 Thread Steve Dunklee

lets see 2 billion dollars for Mike farmer to be the first to hitch a ride to 
Mars with the Russians ,and be the first person to recover a meteorite from the 
red planet! Mike I bet your chomping at the bit to get there! Since I own a 
small piece of the red planet I am using my property rights to open the center 
for Mars meteorite studies! A non profit Repository for the preservation of 
Mars meteorites. Can hardly wait to see that 20 gram piece lol!
Have a great day!
Steve Dunklee


--- On Sun, 7/26/09, Pete Shugar pshu...@clearwire.net wrote:

 From: Pete Shugar pshu...@clearwire.net
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites
 To: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com, 'Martin Altmann' 
 altm...@meteorite-martin.de, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Peter 
 Scherff petersche...@rcn.com
 Date: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 2:00 PM
 Wonder whatthis costs per gram?
 Pete
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com
 To: 'Martin Altmann' altm...@meteorite-martin.de;
 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;
 Peter Scherff 
 petersche...@rcn.com
 Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites
 
 
 
 This link may work better for some:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/lxobxd
 
 --
 Richard Kowalski
 http://fullmoonphotography.net
 IMCA #1081
 
 
 --- On Sun, 7/26/09, Peter Scherff petersche...@rcn.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Peter Scherff petersche...@rcn.com
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar
 meteorites
  To: 'Martin Altmann' altm...@meteorite-martin.de,
 
  meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Date: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 5:00 AM
  Hi,
 
  A Martian meteorite officially
  exists:
  http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/index.php?sea=marssfor=placesants=falls=va
 
 lids=stype=exactlrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Marssrt=namecateg=Allmbl
 
 ist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=nocode=32789
 
 
  Peter
 
  -Original Message-
  From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
  [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]
  On Behalf Of Martin
  Altmann
  Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 6:38 AM
  To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar
 meteorites
 
  Meteorites on Moon are officially called
 meteorites.
 
  Find in the search form of the Bulletin database in
 the
  field, where you
  select the countries: Moon.
  http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php
 
  Official Meteorites on Mars can't exist yet,
  because we still have no possibilities to hand in the
  mandatory deposit
  masses at the classifying institutes,
  therefore they can't be recognized as official
 meteorites
  according the
  rules of NomCom.
 
  I'd say.
  Martin
 
 
 
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  Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
  [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]
  Im Auftrag von Steve
  Dunklee
  Gesendet: Freitag, 24. Juli 2009 12:27
  An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Betreff: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar
 meteorites
 
 
  I don't know if this has ever been talked about before
 but
  if you found a
  meteorite on mars or the moon when we have people
 there,
  what are we going
  to call them? Unless we change the definitions we
 can't
  call ones from mars,
  martian meteorites. Any ideas people?
 
  Have a great day
 
  Steve Dunklee
 
 
 
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[meteorite-list] AD-Pallasites, Bassi, Juancheng, CK4

2009-07-26 Thread Gary Fujihara

Aloha,

I have some meteorites for sale this week, and will consider trades or  
partial trades.  You can see prices and pictures here: http://astroday.net/Meteorites4sale.html


NWA pallasite micros - these little gems are loaded with olivine  
crystals,  $20-$30

Brenham PAL, 35g etched partslice,  $125
Pallasovka PAL, 85g partslice, $200

Bassikounou H5, 95+% crusted individuals 6-106g,  $3/g
Juancheng H5 endcut, 15.67g,  $60

uNWA lodranite, olivine diogenite, pallasites, and many more  
meteorites with pictures and prices  can be seen here: http://astroday.net/Meteorites4sale.html 
   Mahalo nui, and have a great weekend!


Gary Fujihara
AstroDay Institute
105 Puhili Place, Hilo, HI 96720
(808) 640-9161, fuj...@mac.com
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[meteorite-list] Example of Lipping and direction stumper.

2009-07-26 Thread McCartney Taylor
This is an allende. I'm not sure I understand the orientation signs I see.

I see a star flow line pattern which indicates this side is windward. But the 
lipping on the NW side hints the side is leeward.  So I'm a bit confused. 

Any ideas on alternate interpretations?

-mt


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[meteorite-list] Example of Lipping and direction stumper. TAKE 2

2009-07-26 Thread McCartney Taylor
http://outofabluesky.com/images/stories/stoneymeteorites/allende12-7.jpg

This is an Allende. I'm not sure I understand the orientation signs I see.

I see a star flow line pattern which indicates this side is windward. But the 
lipping on the NW side hints the side is leeward. So I'm a bit confused.

Any ideas on alternate interpretations?

-mt



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[meteorite-list] AD-Pallasites, Bassi, Juancheng, CK4

2009-07-26 Thread Gary Fujihara

Aloha,

I have some meteorites for sale this week, and will consider trades or  
partial trades.  You can see prices and pictures here:  http://astroday.net/Meteorites4sale.html


NWA pallasite micros - these little gems are loaded with olivine  
crystals,  $20-$30

Brenham PAL, 35g etched partslice,  $125
Pallasovka PAL, 85g partslice, $200

Bassikounou H5, 95+% crusted individuals 6-106g,  $3/g
Juancheng H5 endcut, 15.67g,  $60

uNWA lodranite, olivine diogenite, pallasites, and many more  
meteorites with pictures and prices  can be seen here:  http://astroday.net/Meteorites4sale.html 
   Mahalo nui, and have a great weekend!


Gary Fujihara
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105 Puhili Place, Hilo, HI 96720
(808) 640-9161, fuj...@mac.com
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[meteorite-list] AD: WIN UP TO $350.00 IN FREE Meteorites With This Week's Auctions- A Cool New Game To Play!

2009-07-26 Thread michael cottingham





Hello,


I thought I would have a little fun this week with my auctions!  I  
have some NICE, NICE stuff up for grabs this week...plus a cool  
little game!` Some of you will appreciate this game because it will  
give you a chance to add up to $350.00 worth of meteorites to your  
collection for free!  It will also add a little spice to the normal  
bidding game.


To See All Auctions This Week-

Go Here:
http://shop.ebay.com:80/merchant/meteorite-collector_W0QQLHQ5fAuctionZ1QQ


READ CAREFULLY:

I am offering two Shopping Sprees. One for $100.00 and one for  
$250.00. A person could win both games and get the opportunity to  
shop in my ebay store and spend a total of $350.00.


#1   SHOPPING SPREE

This Auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200365499661

RULES:

You have to be the high bidder (Winner) of this auction (West/Ash  
Creek) Slice. You must pay within one hour from the time I invoice  
you for this auction. PAYPAL Only. You then can get $100.00 worth of  
items from my ebay store.  Shopping Spree must be used within 24  
hours, or otherwise you forfeit the $100.00 prize.


Shipping is free on Shopping Sprees.

Paypal Only.

Must pay for win within 1 hour of receiving invoice.

Must use Shopping Spree within 24 hours or you forfeit shopping  
spree.  (No excuses- Internet down, sick puppy, etc..)


Ask Questions if You Have Them

*I reserve the right to add to these rules in order to clarify the  
above game as stated.



#2   SHOPPING SPREE

The winner of 10 auctions that close on July 29th (There are 40,  
0.99 cent auctions) will be able to claim a $250.00 Shopping Spree  
in my ebay store.  There are 40 auctions that were started on July  
22nd, and end on July 29th. These were all started out at 0.99  
cents. These are the ones that you are bidding on. If you get 10 or  
more you will get a $250.00 shopping Spree in my ebay store. It is  
possible that with 40 auctions there might be several winners for  
the $250.00 Shopping Sprees  Good Luck.


RULES:

Shipping is Free on Shopping Sprees.

Paypal Only.

Must Pay Within 1 hour of receiving invoice. (You Must pay for your  
10+ Auctions before you can shop)


Must use Shopping Spree within 24 hours or you forfeit shopping  
Spree. (No excuses- Internet down, sick puppy, etc..)


SPECIAL NOTE. The 10+ Auction count in This Shopping Spree, does NOT  
include any Inventory or fixed price items that are in my ebay  
store. You can still buy items from the store during this weeks  
auction, but they will not count towards your 10.


*I reserve the right to add to these rules in order to clarify the  
above game as stated.


Ask Questions if you have them


Pretty simple, I think, but you never know

1. Win the West slice and you get $100.00 Shopping Spree in my ebay  
store.


2. Win 10 or more auctions this week and you get a $250.00 Shopping  
Spree.




Confused about this or have questions ask before you play.

Thanks and Best Wishes

Michael Cottingham


ALSO- Check out this rare Iron _ 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200365079761
















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[meteorite-list] meteorites for sale or trade (AD)

2009-07-26 Thread steve arnold
Hi list.I have 2 big meteorites forsale or trade.Both are unclassified but 
beauty's. The first one is 1.7 kilo's. 100% fusion crusted with a red color all 
the way around. $1400.  The other is 1.044 kilo's. It has alot of nice 
thumbprinting. $400 for that piece. Any nice gao pieces.Oriented! Flow lines! 
Individuals. Off list please.
 Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!! 


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Example of Lipping and direction stumper. TAKE 2

2009-07-26 Thread James Baxter
Hi McCartney,

I'm betting on lee side. I've seen quite a few oriented stones with radial flow 
lines on both sides with the lee side showing, in all the cases I've seen, the 
fainter lines.

Here's a quick few photos of the first one I could put my hands on, a little 
Chergach I got from Geoff Notkin:

lee side:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v614/CaneySprings/?action=viewcurrent=Chergach10-6gramleeside2.jpg

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v614/CaneySprings/?action=viewcurrent=Chergach10-6gramleeside1.jpg

windward side:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v614/CaneySprings/?action=viewcurrent=Chergach10-6gramfrontside.jpg

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v614/CaneySprings/?action=viewcurrent=Chergach10-36gmNotkin08100853-26MAL.jpg

With my quick and dirty photos the lines look a lot fainter than they really 
are(compare Geoff's photo of the front to my more humble effort).

Cheers,
Jim Baxter

- Original Message -
From: McCartney Taylor mccart...@blackbearddata.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 4:00:40 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [meteorite-list] Example of Lipping and direction stumper. TAKE 2

http://outofabluesky.com/images/stories/stoneymeteorites/allende12-7.jpg

This is an Allende. I'm not sure I understand the orientation signs I see.

I see a star flow line pattern which indicates this side is windward. But the 
lipping on the NW side hints the side is leeward. So I'm a bit confused.

Any ideas on alternate interpretations?

-mt



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[meteorite-list] The truth is way, way out there

2009-07-26 Thread Darren Garrison
http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/20751.asp

The hidden UFO bases in the asteroid belt
India Daily Technology Team
Jul. 26, 2009 

Do you really believe the asteroid belt is stable all on a sudden just like
that? What is this asteroid belt?

According to Wickipedia, The asteroid belt is the region of the Solar System
located roughly between the orbits of the planets Mars and Jupiter. It is
occupied by numerous irregularly shaped bodies called asteroids or minor
planets. The asteroid belt region is also termed the main belt to distinguish it
from other concentrations of minor planets within the Solar System, such as the
Kuiper belt and scattered disc.

Between Mars and Jupiter, gravitational perturbations from the giant planet
imbued the planetesimals with too much orbital energy for them to accrete into a
planet. Collisions became too violent, and instead of sticking together, the
planetesimals shattered. As a result, most of the main belt's mass has been lost
since the formation of the Solar System. Some fragments can eventually find
their way into the inner Solar System, leading to meteorite impacts with the
inner planets.

Now scientists are finding clues that this asteoid belt serves as a hidden UFO
base from where extra terrestrial civilizatilons watch the earth civilization
very closely. The asteroid belt is also rich in mnerals and energy.

The high population of the main belt makes for a very active environment, where
collisions between asteroids occur frequently (on astronomical time scales).
Collisions between main belt bodies with a mean radius of 10 km are expected to
occur about once every 10 million years.

But the collissions are actually well controlled. The belt serves as major UFO
bases. 





No word if they use bio-UFOs:

http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/20752.asp
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Re: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites

2009-07-26 Thread cdtucson
List,
Interesting!
I have a question.
 How is this possible?
As Martin pointed out earlier, there is no way to set aside the required
20% or 20 grams for future study?
In addition , Going by this scientific technique; how do we know that all of or 
at least some of the other rocks sniffed on Mars are not also meteorites?
It seems a bit like the Tail wagging the dog here to me? 
Maybe this is why none of the official Mars meteorites match the rocks we 
sniffed on Mars? Maybe they are also meteorites? 
Where is Barnacle Bill really from? Maybe he's a meteorite from Earth because I 
think andesite is found on Earth ? 
Just curious what the Metsoc peeps are thinking? 
Thanks
--
Carl or Debbie Esparza
IMCA 5829
Meteoritemax


 Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 
 This link may work better for some:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/lxobxd
 
 --
 Richard Kowalski
 http://fullmoonphotography.net
 IMCA #1081
 
 
 --- On Sun, 7/26/09, Peter Scherff petersche...@rcn.com wrote:
 
  From: Peter Scherff petersche...@rcn.com
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites
  To: 'Martin Altmann' altm...@meteorite-martin.de, 
  meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Date: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 5:00 AM
  Hi,
  
      A Martian meteorite officially
  exists:
  http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/index.php?sea=marssfor=placesants=falls=va
  lids=stype=exactlrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Marssrt=namecateg=Allmbl
  ist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=nocode=32789
  
  
  Peter
  
  -Original Message-
  From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
  [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]
  On Behalf Of Martin
  Altmann
  Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 6:38 AM
  To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites
  
  Meteorites on Moon are officially called meteorites.
  
  Find in the search form of the Bulletin database in the
  field, where you
  select the countries: Moon.
  http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php
  
  Official Meteorites on Mars can't exist yet,
  because we still have no possibilities to hand in the
  mandatory deposit
  masses at the classifying institutes,
  therefore they can't be recognized as official meteorites
  according the
  rules of NomCom.
  
  I'd say.
  Martin
  
  
  
  -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
  Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
  [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]
  Im Auftrag von Steve
  Dunklee
  Gesendet: Freitag, 24. Juli 2009 12:27
  An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Betreff: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites
  
  
  I don't know if this has ever been talked about before but
  if you found a
  meteorite on mars or the moon when we have people there,
  what are we going
  to call them? Unless we change the definitions we can't
  call ones from mars,
  martian meteorites. Any ideas people?
  
  Have a great day
  
  Steve Dunklee
  
  
        
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[meteorite-list] Video of Ash Creek meteorites being found in West, TX

2009-07-26 Thread McCartney Taylor
I've put together my short 'find videos' that I make every time I find a stone 
(and I have a camera handy).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtQznLtB9Lg

And for those who remember I had another video of a meteorite found near West, 
it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZbgCSSaAEw

I wasn't sure if it was a Ash Creek at first, but now that it is cut there is 
no doubt.
The slices are at 

http://outofabluesky.com/index.php?option=com_jportfoliocat=4project=46Itemid=58

And for something completely different - the biggest god-damned feral hive I've 
ever seen in Texas. Even I, a veteran beekeeper was intimadated to cut out this 
bastard. But it gave me 40 kg of honey.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbbYnfnPiX0


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Re: [meteorite-list] Example of Lipping and direction stumper. TAKE 2

2009-07-26 Thread Michael Blood
Hi McCartney,
In the photo, first of all, if it is an oriented meteorite (and it
seams to be) one is looking at the flat back side. One can see SOME
Lipping on the left - especially, the upper left, but this specimen
certainly does not display much in the way of lipping.
In addition, some of the flow lines (very slight) on the back
indicate that during part of the fall, the flat back side  of the stone
Flipped around and was the face (or one might say it spent some
Time tumbling as it moved through the atmosphere).
All of these and many more phenomena will be explained with
LOTS of photos in my book which is nearly ready to go to print and
Should be available shortly.
I have narrowed down the name and it will be, ASPECTS OF ORIENTED
METEORITES or METEORITES SHOWING ASPECTS OF ORIENTATION.
Best wishes, Michael


On 7/26/09 4:00 PM, McCartney Taylor mccart...@blackbearddata.com wrote:

 http://outofabluesky.com/images/stories/stoneymeteorites/allende12-7.jpg
 
 This is an Allende. I'm not sure I understand the orientation signs I see.
 
 I see a star flow line pattern which indicates this side is windward. But the
 lipping on the NW side hints the side is leeward. So I'm a bit confused.
 
 Any ideas on alternate interpretations?
 
 -mt
 
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Example of Lipping and direction stumper. TAKE 2

2009-07-26 Thread Frank Cressy

Hi McCartney, Michael and all,

I agree with Michael that this is the back side of an oriented meteorite.  The 
lipping shows that.  I also agree with him that it flipped during flight and 
that this side was once the leading side, but but neccessarily because of the 
flow lines. Generally the front side of an oriented meteorite has thinner crust 
than the rear side.  Since we can see many chondrules through the crust, I 
think that the thin crust supports that it was once the leading edge.

Cheers,

Frank

--- On Sun, 7/26/09, Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote:


From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Example of Lipping and direction stumper. TAKE 2
To: mccart...@blackbearddata.com, Meteorite List 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 7:41 PM


Hi McCartney,
        In the photo, first of all, if it is an oriented meteorite (and it
seams to be) one is looking at the flat back side. One can see SOME
Lipping on the left - especially, the upper left, but this specimen
certainly does not display much in the way of lipping.
        In addition, some of the flow lines (very slight) on the back
indicate that during part of the fall, the flat back side  of the stone
Flipped around and was the face (or one might say it spent some
Time tumbling as it moved through the atmosphere).
        All of these and many more phenomena will be explained with
LOTS of photos in my book which is nearly ready to go to print and
Should be available shortly.
        I have narrowed down the name and it will be, ASPECTS OF ORIENTED
METEORITES or METEORITES SHOWING ASPECTS OF ORIENTATION.
        Best wishes, Michael


On 7/26/09 4:00 PM, McCartney Taylor mccart...@blackbearddata.com wrote:

 http://outofabluesky.com/images/stories/stoneymeteorites/allende12-7.jpg
 
 This is an Allende. I'm not sure I understand the orientation signs I see.
 
 I see a star flow line pattern which indicates this side is windward. But the
 lipping on the NW side hints the side is leeward. So I'm a bit confused.
 
 Any ideas on alternate interpretations?
 
 -mt
 
 
 
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[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - July 22, 2009

2009-07-26 Thread Ron Baalke


MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES
July 22, 2009

o Capri Chasma Floor Traverse 
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_009446_1650

o Ridged Margin of Elevated Plateau Northwest of Pavonis Mons
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_009356_1835

o Basal Unit Contact in North Polar Layered Deposits
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_009345_2645

o Boulders and Layers in Canyon
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_009342_1725

O Polar Sand Dunes
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_009324_2650

o Fault in South Polar Layered Deposit Layers
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_013066_1070

o Troughs and Scarps in Planum Australe
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_012934_1070
 
All of the HiRISE images are archived here:

http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/

Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is 
online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is 
managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division 
of the California Institute of Technology, for the NASA 
Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Lockheed 
Martin Space Systems, of Denver, is the prime contractor 
and built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the 
University of Arizona. Ball Aerospace and Technologies 
Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE instrument.

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[meteorite-list] Hubble Space Telescope Captures Rare Jupiter Collision

2009-07-26 Thread Ron Baalke


July 24, 2009

Dwayne Brown 
Headquarters, Washington  
202-358-1726 
dwayne.c.br...@nasa.gov 

Ray Villard 
Space Telescope Science Institute, Baltimore 
410-338-4514 
vill...@stsci.edu 

RELEASE: 09-176

HUBBLE SPACE TELESCOPE CAPTURES RARE JUPITER COLLISION

BALTIMORE -- NASA's Hubble Space Telescope has taken the sharpest 
visible-light picture yet of atmospheric debris from an object that 
collided with Jupiter on July 19. NASA scientists decided to 
interrupt the recently refurbished observatory's checkout and 
calibration to take the image of a new, expanding spot on the giant 
planet on July 23. 

Discovered by Australian amateur astronomer Anthony Wesley, the spot 
was created when a small comet or asteroid plunged into Jupiter's 
atmosphere and disintegrated. The only other time such a feature has 
been seen on Jupiter was 15 years ago after the collision of 
fragments from comet Shoemaker-Levy 9. 

Because we believe this magnitude of impact is rare, we are very 
fortunate to see it with Hubble, said Amy Simon-Miller of NASA's 
Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md. Details seen in the 
Hubble view shows a lumpiness to the debris plume caused by 
turbulence in Jupiter's atmosphere. 

The new Hubble images also confirm that a May servicing visit by space 
shuttle astronauts was a big success. 

This image of the impact on Jupiter is fantastic, said U.S. Sen. 
Barbara A. Mikulski, D-Md., chairwoman of the Commerce, Justice and 
Science Appropriations Subcommittee. It tells us that our astronauts 
and the ground crew at the Goddard Space Flight Center successfully 
repaired the Hubble telescope. I'm so proud of them and I can't wait 
to see what's next from Hubble. 

For the past several days, Earth-based telescopes have been trained on 
Jupiter. To capture the unfolding drama 360 million miles away, Matt 
Mountain, director of the Space Telescope Science Institute in 
Baltimore, gave observation time to a team of astronomers led by 
Heidi Hammel of the Space Science Institute in Boulder, Colo. 

Hubble's truly exquisite imaging capability has revealed an 
astonishing wealth of detail in the impact site, Hammel said. By 
combining these images with our ground-based data at other 
wavelengths, our Hubble data will allow a comprehensive understanding 
of exactly what is happening to the impact debris. 

Simon-Miller estimated the diameter of the impacting object was the 
size of several football fields. The force of the explosion on 
Jupiter was thousands of times more powerful than the suspected comet 
or asteroid that exploded over the Siberian Tunguska River Valley in 
June 1908. 

The image was taken with the Wide Field Camera 3. The new camera, 
installed by the astronauts aboard space shuttle Atlantis in May, is 
not yet fully calibrated. While it is possible to obtain celestial 
images, the camera's full power has yet to be seen. 

This is just one example of what Hubble's new, state-of-the-art 
camera can do, thanks to the STS-125 astronauts and the entire Hubble 
team, said Ed Weiler, associate administrator of NASA's Science 
Mission Directorate in Washington. However, the best is yet to 
come. 

To view the image and obtain more information about Jupiter's new 
spot, visit: 

http://www.nasa.gov/hubble 

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[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: July 20-24, 2009

2009-07-26 Thread Ron Baalke

MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
July 20-24, 2009

o Nirgal Vallis (Released 20 July 2009)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20090720a

o Nirgal Vallis (Released 21 July 2009)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20090721a

o Dust Devil Tracks (Released 22 July 2009)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20090722a

o Dust Devil Tracks (Released 23 July 2009)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20090723a

o Dust Devil Tracks (Released 24 July 2009)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20090724a

All of the THEMIS images are archived here:

http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission 
for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission 
Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University,
Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. 
The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State 
University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor 
for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission 
operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a 
division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. 



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