[meteorite-list] Viva Allende !
Ready the steel and harness the stallion And quake the Earth at the centers! With resonating echoes from the hills and from the valleys ... Amigos Happy Independence Night ... Viva Allende Doug PS La Libertad, Hidalgo, Aldama, Morelos, Iturbide, La Corregidora, La Virgin, Los Niños Heroes, que vivan, Viva Mexico, Viva Carancas __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Odessa Meteorite Craters-Good news; poor reporting
Dear List, Here is an update about the filming at Odessa Craters in Texas. How many factual errors can you find in the reporter`s mis-quotes/incorrect facts? This should be a good learning experience for all of the newbies on this list. Best to Geoff and Steve!--- and Tom, Bob, nearby Odessa and the rest of Ector County! Don`t Mess With Texas! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odessa_Meteor_Crater Perhaps the Meteorite Men will fund the fixing of the burnt stairway down the hole? Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo http://www.newswest9.com/Global/story.asp?S=11135469 New Reality Show Filming in Odessa NewsWest9.com Odessa is one of two meteorites in the Country. One is in Arizona. It seems like a logical place for 'Meteorite Men' to come, Meteor Expert, ... __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day-September14, 2009
Hi all, Most of you have probably seen it already but for anyone following this thread there is footage of a couple of trees in the Sikhote-Alin documentary where pieces have gone clean through them. It's at about 6:08. http://www.meteorites.com.au/oddsends/sikhote-alin.html Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com To: geo...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:14 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day-September14, 2009 George I don't think the heat was from the small meteorite itself, but the kinetic energy released by the impacting bodies. There was enough energy to form craters/pits that were 20-30m wide and down trees. Like in all cratering events, there was a hot air blast caused by the energy release which may have charred the outside of the trees. This is just a possible way to explain the charring, if in fact, that is what I am seeing on the bark of the tree (again, not behind the small meteorite). Matt --Original Message-- From: geo...@aol.com Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day -September14, 2009 Sent: Sep 15, 2009 11:04 AM I don't see any charring...only staining/rust. Wanting to expand a little here...assuming the tree was alive when struck, I don't think a small meteorite would carry enuf heat to cause any charring that would be noticed today. Being one who relies on a woodstove as their primary source of heat, I can attest that it's a real bear to get wet wood to even think about burning. If it was a dead tree, I still doubt there would be enuf heat in this small piece to cause anything to burn. If a small piece was hot enuf to cause any charring, I can only imagine how much heat would be in the larger pieces...were there any burnt trees in the strewnfield area? I can't tell from the photograph, but was this piece a fragment or an individual? George Zay __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA4483 for sale
hola colletors ! we have 6.784 billion people living on this planet, is there only one who would like to purchase my wonderfull NWA4483 lunar endcut i sell for a fantastic price, just make an offer, i will sell under the price i paid ! for pictures please contact me ! thanks, kindly regards, oliver imca #6131 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - ebay auctions ending on Saturday
Dear Fellow Listees, Meteoriteshow is back to ebay after a few weeks off! Our ebay auctions ending on Saturday can be seen at: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ50QQsassZmeteoriteshow They include: 1- Al Haggounia 001 PRIM. AUB. - 6.1g partslice Partslice #001 weighing 6.1g, dimensions 52x23x2.7mm.Cut in one of the freshest framents of Al Haggounia 001. Displays what seems to be a ghost chondrule in a fair grey matrix. Shipped in a display box http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330359567663 2- DaG 945 - EUCRITE - 5.7g partslice PARTSLICE weighing 5.7g, dimensions 52x46x1.2mm FRESH meteorite (W1), it displays nice BLACK FUSION CRUST on the edge. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330359561144 3- DaG 947 - LL6 - 1.41g partslice Partslice weighing 1.41g, dimensions 20x16x1.5mm FULL SLICE with FUSION CRUST http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330359563613 4- NWA 4677 - 0.9g partslice #01 - EUCRITE PARTSLICE #01, weighing 0.9g, dimensions ~20.8x15.7x1.2mm. Displays 2 lithologies and nice shock veins. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330359564906 5- SAH 02500 L3 - 8.1g slice Slice weighing 8.1g, dimensions: 48x19x4mm. Typical structure of SAH 02500 diplaying sharp chondrules and a nice grey inclusion http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330359566388 6- ZAG H3-6 - 3.03g partslice - WITNESSED FALL! Partslice weighing 3.03g, Dimensions: 19x14x5mm Displays the usual 2 lithologies of ZAG. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330359569274 Thank you very much for watching and best wishes to ALL BIDDERS!!! Kind regards, Frederic Beroud http://www.meteoriteshow.com IMCA member # 2491 (http://www.imca.cc/) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Bugs In Space!
Hi listees, Some interesting reading... ...To test if meteorites might protect bacteria on their journey through space, Horneck and her colleagues mixed samples of 50 million spores with particles of clay, red sandstone, Martian meteorite, or simulated Martian soil and made small lumps a centimeter in diameter. Between 10,000 and 100,000 spores of the original 50 million survived and when mixed with red sandstone, nearly all survived, suggesting that even meteorites a centimeter in diameter can carry life from one planet to another, if they completed the journey within a few years. In a rock a meter across, bacteria could probably survive for millions of years Still don't believe? Can Microbes Survive a Million-Year Space Journey? Experts Say Yes http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2009/09/can-microbes-survive-a-millionyear-space-journey-experts-say-yes.html Still no? Bugs In Space! http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/071211-st-space-microbes.html How about this one? http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090317153047.htm Or this: http://www.astrobiology.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=28594 And this... http://www.physorg.com/news163259938.html Even More... http://blogs.jpl.nasa.gov/?tag=space-rocks http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/080515-am-asteroid-impacts.html http://spacefellowship.com/2009/08/30/picture-of-the-day-bacteria-astronauts/ Possible Martians: http://astrobiology.arc.nasa.gov/news/expandnews.cfm?id=9294 And this from the WashingtonPost.com website (Oct 1999) ...A case study from the Apollo 12 mission in 1969 provides a cautionary tale. On the lunar surface, astronauts Pete Conrad and Alan Bean retrieved a camera from the Surveyor robot craft, which had landed almost three years earlier, and carried it back to Earth. Analysts at what is now NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston concluded that a common Earth bacterium, Streptococcus mitis (found in the human mouth, throat and nose), most likely had flown aboard Surveyor from Earth to the moon and survived years in the vacuum – apparently nestled deep inside the camera in a foam insulation between two circuit boards... Supporting articles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reports_of_Streptococcus_mitis_on_the_moon http://astrobiology.arc.nasa.gov/news/expandnews.cfm?id=10180 Space Bugs: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/space_bugs_021217.html Deadly Space Bacteria: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/09/070924-space-bacteria.html Ancient Life Revived: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/antarctic_life_021216.html Bugs From Hell! http://astrobiology.arc.nasa.gov/news/expandnews.cfm?id=1245 More Extremophiles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremophile Water Bears: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_Bears http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14690-water-bears-are-first-animal-to-survive-space-vacuum.html Nasa Hunts For Extremophiles: http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/07feb_cloroxlake.htm New Extreme Life Form: 2005 http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/02/050224093714.htm Search For Life On Mars In Methane; NASA: Sept. 2009 http://www.livescience.com/researchinaction/ria-090910.html And finally we're still left with the question... Are We Aliens? http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/06/14/are-we-aliens/ To all you guys that say Aliens have nothing to do with Meteorites... Aliens have EVERYTHING to do with meteorites! Hope you guys enjoy this post... Regards, Eric Wichman www.MeteoritesUSA.com www.MeteoriteBlog.com www.Spacifieds.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] test
push ... Gary Fujihara AstroDay Institute 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, HI 96720 (808) 640-9161, fuj...@mac.com http://astroday.net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Bugs In Space!
G'day, Konnichiwa, Aloha, Top 'o the morning to ya!: Microbes from outer space living in the upper atmosphere and bacteria living for millions of years! If I only had more time to read junk science! Phil Whitmer Hi listees, Some interesting reading... ...To test if meteorites might protect bacteria on their journey through space, Horneck and her colleagues mixed samples of 50 million spores with particles of clay, red sandstone, Martian meteorite, or simulated Martian soil and made small lumps a centimeter in diameter. Between 10,000 and 100,000 spores of the original 50 million survived and when mixed with red sandstone, nearly all survived, suggesting that even meteorites a centimeter in diameter can carry life from one planet to another, if they completed the journey within a few years. In a rock a meter across, bacteria could probably survive for millions of years Still don't believe? __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of theDay-September14, 2009
I have added a few photos from the impact site along with Matt's great piece here: http://www.sikhote-alin.org/sikhote-alin-1947.html Michael Johnson http://www.rocksfromspace.org Thumbed On My BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:10:45 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day-September14, 2009 Hi all, Most of you have probably seen it already but for anyone following this thread there is footage of a couple of trees in the Sikhote-Alin documentary where pieces have gone clean through them. It's at about 6:08. http://www.meteorites.com.au/oddsends/sikhote-alin.html Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com To: geo...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:14 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day-September14, 2009 George I don't think the heat was from the small meteorite itself, but the kinetic energy released by the impacting bodies. There was enough energy to form craters/pits that were 20-30m wide and down trees. Like in all cratering events, there was a hot air blast caused by the energy release which may have charred the outside of the trees. This is just a possible way to explain the charring, if in fact, that is what I am seeing on the bark of the tree (again, not behind the small meteorite). Matt --Original Message-- From: geo...@aol.com Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day -September14, 2009 Sent: Sep 15, 2009 11:04 AM I don't see any charring...only staining/rust. Wanting to expand a little here...assuming the tree was alive when struck, I don't think a small meteorite would carry enuf heat to cause any charring that would be noticed today. Being one who relies on a woodstove as their primary source of heat, I can attest that it's a real bear to get wet wood to even think about burning. If it was a dead tree, I still doubt there would be enuf heat in this small piece to cause anything to burn. If a small piece was hot enuf to cause any charring, I can only imagine how much heat would be in the larger pieces...were there any burnt trees in the strewnfield area? I can't tell from the photograph, but was this piece a fragment or an individual? George Zay __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Auctions End Today- MORE-Highlights Added-Plus Sale On Select Items-Plus Very Special Price On Some Top Pieces-This Is A Must See! Wheelin' Dealin' Time-Don't Be Shy!
Hello Everyone! Check These out! I Am Only Going To Sell One of these below and after that I will withdraw the others at these prices! They all can be seen in my ebay store: Outstanding HOLBROOK Individual, 415 gram - I will take an offer of $5,000.00 for this one-no less. A serious specimen for the right person! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200356012326 ZARAGOZA, Spain, IVA Anomalous, 2770 gram - HUGE Iron Slice - $5,000.00 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200356012338 Big Specimen Of EL HAMMAMI, Mauritania 7,148g - BIGGEST SPECIMEN AROUND! $5,000.00 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200356012358 GLORIETA MOUNTAIN, New Mexico, 5,740 gram - A Deal At $12,000.00 - This will be a center piece for most collections! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200366353657 Rare Famous LOS ANGELES, Martian, 8.30g EC - This is a chance of a lifetime to acquire such a fine specimen! First $8,000.00 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200380213859 Fantastic-Oriented--CHIANG KHAN, Thailand - First $3,000.00 gets this one! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200381008742 A Beautiful Sikhote-Alin, IIAB Iron, 7568g - YOU WILL NOT FIND A SPECIMEN THIS NICE FOR THE PRICE-Except Here! $4500.00 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200356012373 An Exquisite Portales Valley Individual-399g - A Rare Beauty- First $5,000.00 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200356012332 A Beautiful slice of SEYMCHAN, Pal, 357 gram - YOU WILL NOT FIND A BETTER ONE FOR THIS PRICE! First $3000.00 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200381008755 ALL AUCTIONS HERE: http://shop.ebay.com:80/merchant/meteorite-collector_W0QQLHQ5fAuctionZ1QQ Highlights For This Week's Auctions: (Some Very Nice Pieces) Classic GOLD BASIN, Arizona, L4, 411 gram - BIG BIG Individual - This is the largest I have to auction! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200380667745 (NEW) Ungrouped Ataxite, GRIFFITH, TX, 25.30g - Getting Low on this Rarity. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200380712111 Seldom Available- AHUMADA, Pallasite, Mexico - Only Specimen I have! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200380697806 New Fall- TAMDAKHT, H5, 20g, Individual * IMPORTANT TO NOTE - Individuals from this fall are extremely RARE! This one is a beauty. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200380700292 Low Total Known Weight-FAIRFIELD, OH, Iron - Super Rare American Iron From Ohio - Only One I have! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200380974568 Super Rare HONOLULU, Witnessed Fall, 0.042 g - ONLY ONE I HAVE - LAST ONE! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200380982923 New MAIN MASS- NWA 4947, Eucrite, 18.15 gram - MAIN MASS - MAIN MASS Eucrite! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200381225491 Hard To Find-BIG ROCK DONGA, Australia, H6 - ONLY ONE I HAVE! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200381377883 Rare Fall From Kansas-MODOC (1905) - 0.23 g ONLY ONE I HAVE- Very Rare. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200381378536 Seldom Available POLUJAMKI, Russia, H4, 4.53g - Only One I have. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200381223523 Nice Specimen of NWA 869, L4-6, 184 gram - VERY NICE LARGE SLICE! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200381226915 Choice Specimen From Northwest Africa-108.9g - Nice One! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200380559087 Outstanding Silicated-Campo Del Cielo -17.12g - I love these silicated specimens! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200380666575 Rare Low TKW, DAVY (B), Texas, H4, 19.06g - Nice larger specimen! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200380664707 METEORITE A Rare Ungrouped Iron-TRES CASTILLOS, 118g - Everyone else sells at $10.00 per gram-Check This One Out! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200382988758 Very Rare NWA 4468, Primitive Martian, 194mg - REALLY NICE ONE! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200380978590 Rare NWA 1277, CO3.6, 50 gram End Cut - RARE A GOOD DEAL! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200382990125 Cool End Cut of OUM DREYGA, Fall, H3-5, 137g - A really Great Specimen- Check it out! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200381376688 A very Rare EL3 From Africa, NWA 2965, 95.13g - I am running out of these! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200380696034 CANYON DIABLO Individual, IAB Iron, 152 g - Nice Individual! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200380709755 Semi Rare- TWODOT, H6 From Montana, 1.78g, Once was around, but seldom available these days.
[meteorite-list] Can Microbes Survive a Million-Year Space Journey? Experts Say Yes
http://zikkir.com/scitech/691 Can Microbes Survive a Million-Year Space Journey? Experts Say Yes By Jason McManus 16 September 2009 In a unique experiment on a galactic scale, millions of bacterial spores have been purposely exposed to space, to see how solar radiation affects them and the results supported the idea that not only could life have arrived on Earth on meteorites, but that considerable material has flowed between planets. Closer to home, scientists have analyzed aerial dust samples collected by Charles Darwin and confirmed that microbes can travel across continents without the need for planes or trains - rather bacteria and fungi hitch-hike by attaching to dust particles. Their results clearly show that diverse microbes, including ascomycetes, and eubacteria can live for centuries and survive intercontinental travel. In a paper published in Environmental Microbiology, Dr. Anna Gorbushina (Carl-von-Ossietzky University, Oldenburg, Germany), Professor William Broughton (University of Geneva, Switzerland) and their colleagues analyzed dust samples collected by Charles Darwin and others almost 200 years ago. Recent space-centric studies have shown that some rock-inhabiting organisms, known as endoliths, might be able to survive a trip through space and a plunge through a planetâs atmosphere to the surface. However, nobody knew whether these organisms could survive the initial trip into space. Recently, an international team of researchers, led by Gerda Horneck of the Institute of Aerospace Medicine in Cologne, Germany, selected a number of hardy microbes from Earth and tested their ability to hitchhike aboard rocks similar to Martian meteorites. The organisms used in the study included bacterial endospores, endolithic cyanobacteria and lichens. This selection provided a wider range of organisms than in other studies performed to date, including not just simple bacteria but also more complex eukaryotic organisms. The researchers looked at previous studies of Martian meteorites that provided information about the kinds of forces needed to eject rocks from a large planet. Using this data, the researchers developed a series of tests designed to simulate these pressures on the selected organisms. By smashing the life-containing rocks between metal plates, the researchers were able to determine which organisms are capable of surviving different pressures caused by asteroid impacts and ejection into space. Ultimately, they discovered that a wide range of organisms would be capable of surviving impacts on or Earth. Our results enlarge the number of potential organisms that might be able to reseed a planetary surface after early very large impact events, and suggest that such a re-seeding scenario on a planetary surface is possible with diverse organisms, the researchers report. In earlier experiments, Horneck and her colleagues used the Russian Foton satellite to expose 50 million unprotected spores of the bacterium Bacillus Subtilis outside the satellite. UV radiation from the Sun killed nearly all of the spores, and did so even when the spores were confined under quartz. To test if meteorites might protect bacteria on their journey through space, Horneck and her colleagues mixed samples of 50 million spores with particles of clay, red sandstone, Martian meteorite, or simulated Martian soil and made small lumps a centimeter in diameter. Between 10,000 and 100,000 spores of the original 50 million survived and when mixed with red sandstone, nearly all survived, suggesting that even meteorites a centimeter in diameter can carry life from one planet to another, if they completed the journey within a few years. In a rock a meter across, bacteria could probably survive for millions of years. In a separate experiment, another team ran computer models of giant impacts like Chicxulub. In the simulations, millions of large boulders were ejected from the earth. About 30 boulders from each Earth impact even reached Titan, and they entered Tita's atmosphere slower than most meteors hit Earth's atmosphere. Big rocks from Earth have no doubt reached Enceladus, as well. That kind of entry should be no problem, agreed Allan Treiman of the Lunar and Planetary Institute in Houston, quoted in New Scientist. Bacteria were found in wreckage of the shuttle Columbia when it re-entered Earth's atmosphere in 2003. And Earthly lichen survived when exposed to the harsh environment of space. The research is detailed in the Spring 2008 issue of the journal Astrobiology. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD-ebay auctions ending Saturday
Good morning from sunny San Francisco! I have some meteorites on ebay auction ending this Saturday, Sep 19 beginning at 11:02 PDT. Up on the block are: NWA 869 individuals of aesthetic shape and orientation NWA x unclassified oriented nosecone Sah 02500 complete individual Chergach - complete fusion crusted stone NWA x CV3 - small, flat carbonaceous Bassikounou - 99% FC Lava Olivine Xenolith - Bombs Away! Mahalo to all those who won my auctions last week - your specimens are on the way! Gary Fujihara AstroDay Institute 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, HI 96720 (808) 640-9161, fuj...@mac.com http://astroday.net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] CoRoT-7b rocks!
http://spacefellowship.com/2009/09/16/smallest-exoplanet-is-shown-to-be-a-solid-rocky-world/ Smallest exoplanet is shown to be a solid, rocky world Published By Matt On: 16 September 2009 11:26 AM CEST Source The confirmation of the nature of CoRoT-7b as the first rocky planet outside our Solar System marks a significant step forward in the search for Earth-like exoplanets. The detection by CoRoT and follow-up radial velocity measurements with HARPS suggest that this exoplanet, CoRoT-7b, has a density similar to that of Mercury, Venus, Mars and Earth making it only the fifth known terrestrial planet in the Universe. The search for a habitable exoplanet is one of the holy grails in astronomy. One of the first steps towards this goal is the detection of terrestrial planets around solar-type stars. Dedicated programmes, using telescopes in space and on ground, have yielded evidence for hundreds of planets outside of our Solar System. The majority of these are giant, gaseous planets, but in recent years small, almost Earth-mass planets have been detected demonstrating that the discovery of Earth analogues exoplanets with one Earth mass or one Earth radius orbiting a solar-type star at a distance of about 1 astronomical unit is within reach. Transit detections yield key physical properties A number of techniques are routinely employed in the search for exoplanets: spectroscopic radial velocity, astrometry, microlensing, photometric transits. Of these, the search for transits the passage of the exoplanet in front of the parent star provides unprecedented access to the planets physical properties. In particular, the combination of transit photometry and radial velocity measurements provides direct and very accurate estimates of the planetary mass and radius, and hence mean density. These parameters in turn provide tight constraints on the composition and physical structure of the planet and hence on the likelihood of the exoplanet being a true Earth analogue. The CoRoT space mission employs the transit strategy in the search for exoplanets. Continuous observations, lasting about 150 days each, are made of two large (4 square degrees) regions towards the centre and anti-centre of the Galaxy. During the first of these observation periods towards the anti-centre (October 2007 to March 2008), 46 stars exhibited evidence for transits, among them CoRoT-7, a main-sequence, close-by (at a distance of 150 pc) solar-type star. The size is determined with photometry from CoRoT Investigation of the data, as described by Alain Léger and colleagues, provided compelling evidence for the presence of an exoplanet. The discovery was announced earlier this year at which time the analysis of CoRoT data had shown that CoRoT-7b (as the planet is known) has a diameter less than twice that of Earth making it the smallest exoplanet (to date) orbiting a main-sequence star. The CoRoT data also demonstrated that the planet is about 2.5 million km from its parent star and orbits once every 20.4 hours. and HARPS radial velocity measurements provide the mass Further progress, and in particular the determination of the planet mass, could only be made by obtaining accurate measurements of the variation in the velocity of the star caused by the gravitational pull of the orbiting planet. The need for ground-based support observations for CoRoT had always been envisaged and time on the HARPS spectrograph (at the ESO 3.6-m telescope at La Silla in Chile) had been secured as a result of an ESA call for European co-investigators for CoRoT. Didier Queloz and colleagues describe how almost 70 hours of observations of the CoRoT-7 system with HARPS finally provided the sought-after result: CoRoT-7b is one of the lightest exoplanets detected to date with a mass five times that of the Earth. This puts CoRoT-7b firmly in the category of super-Earth an exoplanet with a mass between that of Earth and gas giants. A terrestrial exoplanet orbiting a solar-type star Although about a dozen super-Earths have been detected CoRoT-7b is the first for which both mass and radius estimates are available. Combining the radius estimates from CoRoT and the mass estimates from HARPS results in an exoplanet mean density of 5.5 g/cm3. There are only three other known planets with similar density: Earth, Mercury and Venus (Mars is less dense) which strongly suggests that the planet is a solid, rocky planet. We are coming tantalising close to reaching the ultimate goal of detecting a true Earth-like planet, comments Malcolm Fridlund, ESA CoRoT Project Scientist and member of the CoRoT Science Team. This bodes well for future exoplanet search missions, such as the Cosmic Vision candidate, PLATO. About CoRoT CoRoT is a mission led by the French national space agency, CNES. ESA has joined the mission by providing the optics and baffle for the telescope and testing of the payload. Through this collaboration a number of European scientists, from
[meteorite-list] Can Microbes Survive a Million-Year Space Journey? Experts Say Yes
Can Microbes Survive a Million-Year Space Journey? Experts Say Yes By Jason McManus 16 September 2009 In a unique experiment on a galactic scale, millions of bacterial spores have been purposely exposed to space, to see how solar radiation affects them and the results supported the idea that not only could life have arrived on Earth on meteorites, but that considerable material has flowed between planets. Closer to home, scientists have analyzed aerial dust samples collected by Charles Darwin and confirmed that microbes can travel across continents without the need for planes or trains - rather bacteria and fungi hitch-hike by attaching to dust particles. Their results clearly show that diverse microbes, including ascomycetes, and eubacteria can live for centuries and survive intercontinental travel. It takes a huge leap of faith to go from a few centuries and intercontinental travel to MILLIONS of years traveling in OUTER SPACE! Extrapolation to the extreme. If the UV doesn't get 'em surely the Van Allen radiation will over the (how many years?) in a declining orbit around the Earth. Quote: In a rock a meter across, bacteria could probably survive for millions of years Re(butt)al: Yes, and monkeys could probably fly out of my butt. So where exactly are these imaginary panspermic endospores coming from? Certainly not from Mars. My guess is an undiscovered planet called Pie In The Sky. Of course, it'll only take the discovery of one single ET in a meteorite for me to adjust my belief system accordingly. Emperically yours, Phil Whitmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocky planet find enlivens search for ET live
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Re: [meteorite-list] Chicxulub Asteroid (Black Holes, Gravity, Lightspeed...)
Hi, Steve, List, the event horizons are so small it would require speeds faster than light for them to suck any new matter in. The definition of the event horizon is that it is like a surface whose escape velocity is equal to the speed of light. (Actually, it's a leeetil more complicated if the black hole is rotating or charged or both, creating an ergosphere of multiple horizons, blah, blah, but we're not going there.) It is gravity that creates the black hole. General Relativity predicts, and the universe has demonstrated, that gravity exerts a force on EVERYTHING, including light. The Eddington 1919 proof of Relativity, the first proof of the theory, showed that the powerful gravity of the Sun bends light rays that pass near it. At the event horizon, the force of gravity is so strong that a photon of light heading straight up away from the black hole at the speed of light is standing still ! If you find that hard to picture, don't worry -- it's impossible to picture. So, let's try. Ignoring the quadrillions of gee's tugging on you, picture yourself standing on a big black ball with a flashlight pointing up. You turn it on and nothing happens. You look down into the flashlight; there's a pool of photons in the bottom of the lamp housing. You tilt it slightly and some photons pour out. They drip down in an arc and fall back to the surface like water. Of course, this is all physically impossible but it's what the photons do. And -- just above the event horizon -- time has come to a near standstill. AT the event horizon, time IS standing still. Just above the event horizon, a second lasts for a trillion years... to an outside observer. All because of gravity. And one final craziness -- not only does gravity exert a force on light (and everything else), it even exerts a force on ITSELF ! Now, that IS crazy. But true. About this time, you're saying Heck! You're crazier than those aliens I've been talking to. What have you been drinking? Nothing but water, friend. The speed of expansion, now, is only a speed relative to us. You're mixing up old Newtonian absolute space speed and Einsteinian speed of one frame of reference relative to another frame of reference. The edge of the Universe isn't an edge at all -- it's a perfectly normal place -- if you were there instead of here. And if you WERE there instead of here, then here would be the edge of the expansion of the universe. The edge is just the limit to the portion of the universe that we can observe. All because the universe has a Speed Limit. We don't need Relativity Cops -- this universal speed limit enforces itself ! There are these signs everywhere: Speed Limit: Speed of Light. It isn't just a good idea -- IT'S THE LAW ! Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Steve Dunklee sdunklee72...@yahoo.com To: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:52 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chicxulub Asteroid if my info gathered from my alien abduction exp is correct. mini black holes are atoms , they are stable because the event horizons are so small it would require speeds faster than light for them to suck any new matter in. larger black holes while theoretical are not possible because collisions with a large enough object cause them to go nova. which creates elements greater than iron. we measure the speed of light by the distance it travels in a specific amount of time. if time is the inverse of the universe wave then the farther you travel out from the center the slower time moves. if time stops at the speed of light so does the universe expansion. there is no possible way from our current vectors to determin universe expansion or contraction without taking into account the spin of the universe. the universe being a wave which is expanding at the speed of light will reach an equilibrium where the universe stops with time stopping. if time has stoopped at the edge limit of the universe then it can niether expand nor contract and will reach a steady state.where time stopping prevents it from expanding and it can't collapse for the same reason. the observed curve of the universe is because of the spin. which causes doppler shift. small particles in the universe bounce around like a beach ball in waves close to shore as large particles float smoothly by ' befor you try to castrate me for making these claims i will apolagise in advance! brain tumors like i have in the temporal regions realy cause a lot of problems. have a great day Steve Dunklee --- On Tue, 9/15/09, Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chicxulub Asteroid To: Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, September
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of theDay-September14, 2009/ Recent Meteorite hunting trips to this area
Hi Michael and list, Great pictures! Has any one been to the Sikhote-alin strewn field to hunt meteorites recently? Or is this area still of limits to hunting? Thanks, Sonny -Original Message- From: spacerocks...@aol.com To: Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:33 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of theDay-September14, 2009 I have added a few photos from the impact site along with Matt's great piece here: http://www.sikhote-alin.org/sikhote-alin-1947.html Michael Johnson http://www.rocksfromspace.org Thumbed On My BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:10:45 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day-September14, 2009 Hi all, Most of you have probably seen it already but for anyone following this thread there is footage of a couple of trees in the Sikhote-Alin documentary where pieces have gone clean through them. It's at about 6:08. http://www.meteorites.com.au/oddsends/sikhote-alin.html Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com To: geo...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:14 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day-September14, 2009 George I don't think the heat was from the small meteorite itself, but the kinetic energy released by the impacting bodies. There was enough energy to form craters/pits that were 20-30m wide and down trees. Like in all cratering events, there was a hot air blast caused by the energy release which may have charred the outside of the trees. This is just a possible way to explain the charring, if in fact, that is what I am seeing on the bark of the tree (again, not behind the small meteorite). Matt --Original Message-- From: geo...@aol.com Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day -September14, 2009 Sent: Sep 15, 2009 11:04 AM I don't see any charring...only staining/rust. Wanting to expand a little here...assuming the tree was alive when struck, I don't think a small meteorite would carry enuf heat to cause any charring that would be noticed today. Being one who relies on a woodstove as their primary source of heat, I can attest that it's a real bear to get wet wood to even think about burning. If it was a dead tree, I still doubt there would be enuf heat in this small piece to cause anything to burn. If a small piece was hot enuf to cause any charring, I can only imagine how much heat would be in the larger pieces...were there any burnt trees in the strewnfield area? I can't tell from the photograph, but was this piece a fragment or an individual? George Zay __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Strange Rock Reports
I’ve gotten about six strange rock reports so far which is great! It shows the locals know meteorites could be on the ground and they are keeping an eye out for them. I have been able to identify most of the rocks I’ve seen so far, but this one in particular I’m not sure about. If anyone knows what this rock is please let me know. It is very hard and magnetic seemed like a lot of metal in it. It is pretty weathered and hard to tell if it has a crust on it or not. http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/gideon-rock1.jpg http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/gideon-rock2.jpg http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/gideon-rock3.jpg http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/gideon-rock4.jpg __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NEW EXOPLANET CoRoT-7b rocks!
Next another, slightly more detailed announcement of the CoRoT-7b data: http://www.sflorg.com/spacenews/sn091609_01.html When I get data, I like to crunch it, and we have enough for some solid nibbling on the new planet. * The name of its star is TYC 4799-1733-1. (Needs a sexier name than that.) It's a young star, only about 1.5 billion years old. CoRoT-7b Is 23 times closer to its star than Mercury is to our Sun. The star, TYC 4799-1733-1, rotates once every 23 days, very comparable to our Sun's rotation period. A normal solar system, whatever that is. * The planet has a diameter of about 14,000 miles (and an equatorial circumference of 44,420 miles) and a surface area 3.25 times that of Earth. * It has an escape velocity of 26,400 m/sec (18.85 mi/sec) , or 2.36 times greater than Earth's escape velocity. Leaving CoRoT-7b is a lot of work. * The surface gravity is 1.543 times that of the Earth's surface gravity, which would be survivable if only the place weren't So Darned Hot. * The CoRoT-7b year is only 20 hours 24 min. long. It's probably safe to assume it always faces its Sun. Or is it? We used to assume Mercury always showed one face to the Sun, but it ain't necessarily so. If CoRoT-7b is in a 3:2 resonance like Mercury, its day would be 13 hours 36 min. long, which would keep the surface uniformly toasty. * It's only 2.5 million km (1.5 million miles) from its star, so it's really hot -- 1000 C to 1500 C. * The actual density of CoRoT-7b is 6.433 times that of water because its immense mass crushes its core to a high central density, but corrected for compression, it's said to be 5.5, just like all us Earths. * Because of its size and mass, its crust will be thin and plastic, with the lower crust probably molten and liquid. It is doubtful that much surface relief could be supported -- no high mountains, although the higher gravity will give them steeper outlines. The thin crust will easily sink anywhere, even though it won't sink fast. The crust should be young and well-mixed with little compositional differences. * Its atmosphere is anybody's guess. It could be metallic and heavier element vapors. It could be high pressure steam, very deep, with an albedo of 0.93 over deep H20 oceans, although it's hard to see how it could retain water that close to its star, even for a mere 1.5 billion years and despite the fact that if it had the same percentage of water in its makeup as the Earth, its surface oceans would be 60% deeper than Earth's oceans. Atmospheric guessing is really unreliable. * It makes the our Venus's Hell look like an air- conditioned tropical paradise by comparison... Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:21 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] CoRoT-7b rocks! http://spacefellowship.com/2009/09/16/smallest-exoplanet-is-shown-to-be-a-solid-rocky-world/ Smallest exoplanet is shown to be a solid, rocky world Published By Matt On: 16 September 2009 11:26 AM CEST Source The confirmation of the nature of CoRoT-7b as the first rocky planet outside our Solar System marks a significant step forward in the search for Earth-like exoplanets. The detection by CoRoT and follow-up radial velocity measurements with HARPS suggest that this exoplanet, CoRoT-7b, has a density similar to that of Mercury, Venus, Mars and Earth making it only the fifth known terrestrial planet in the Universe. The search for a habitable exoplanet is one of the holy grails in astronomy. One of the first steps towards this goal is the detection of terrestrial planets around solar-type stars. Dedicated programmes, using telescopes in space and on ground, have yielded evidence for hundreds of planets outside of our Solar System. The majority of these are giant, gaseous planets, but in recent years small, almost Earth-mass planets have been detected demonstrating that the discovery of Earth analogues - exoplanets with one Earth mass or one Earth radius orbiting a solar-type star at a distance of about 1 astronomical unit - is within reach. Transit detections yield key physical properties A number of techniques are routinely employed in the search for exoplanets: spectroscopic radial velocity, astrometry, microlensing, photometric transits. Of these, the search for transits - the passage of the exoplanet in front of the parent star - provides unprecedented access to the planet's physical properties. In particular, the combination of transit photometry and radial velocity measurements provides direct and very accurate estimates of the planetary mass and radius, and hence mean density. These parameters in turn provide tight constraints on the composition and physical structure of the planet and hence on the likelihood of the exoplanet being a true Earth analogue. The CoRoT space mission employs the
Re: [meteorite-list] Chicxulub Asteroid (Black Holes, Gravity, Lightspeed...)
Awe shucks there goes my opportunity to get to Andromeda before dinner -- From: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:10 PM To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chicxulub Asteroid (Black Holes, Gravity,Lightspeed...) Hi, Steve, List, the event horizons are so small it would require speeds faster than light for them to suck any new matter in. The definition of the event horizon is that it is like a surface whose escape velocity is equal to the speed of light. (Actually, it's a leeetil more complicated if the black hole is rotating or charged or both, creating an ergosphere of multiple horizons, blah, blah, but we're not going there.) It is gravity that creates the black hole. General Relativity predicts, and the universe has demonstrated, that gravity exerts a force on EVERYTHING, including light. The Eddington 1919 proof of Relativity, the first proof of the theory, showed that the powerful gravity of the Sun bends light rays that pass near it. At the event horizon, the force of gravity is so strong that a photon of light heading straight up away from the black hole at the speed of light is standing still ! If you find that hard to picture, don't worry -- it's impossible to picture. So, let's try. Ignoring the quadrillions of gee's tugging on you, picture yourself standing on a big black ball with a flashlight pointing up. You turn it on and nothing happens. You look down into the flashlight; there's a pool of photons in the bottom of the lamp housing. You tilt it slightly and some photons pour out. They drip down in an arc and fall back to the surface like water. Of course, this is all physically impossible but it's what the photons do. And -- just above the event horizon -- time has come to a near standstill. AT the event horizon, time IS standing still. Just above the event horizon, a second lasts for a trillion years... to an outside observer. All because of gravity. And one final craziness -- not only does gravity exert a force on light (and everything else), it even exerts a force on ITSELF ! Now, that IS crazy. But true. About this time, you're saying Heck! You're crazier than those aliens I've been talking to. What have you been drinking? Nothing but water, friend. The speed of expansion, now, is only a speed relative to us. You're mixing up old Newtonian absolute space speed and Einsteinian speed of one frame of reference relative to another frame of reference. The edge of the Universe isn't an edge at all -- it's a perfectly normal place -- if you were there instead of here. And if you WERE there instead of here, then here would be the edge of the expansion of the universe. The edge is just the limit to the portion of the universe that we can observe. All because the universe has a Speed Limit. We don't need Relativity Cops -- this universal speed limit enforces itself ! There are these signs everywhere: Speed Limit: Speed of Light. It isn't just a good idea -- IT'S THE LAW ! Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Steve Dunklee sdunklee72...@yahoo.com To: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:52 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chicxulub Asteroid if my info gathered from my alien abduction exp is correct. mini black holes are atoms , they are stable because the event horizons are so small it would require speeds faster than light for them to suck any new matter in. larger black holes while theoretical are not possible because collisions with a large enough object cause them to go nova. which creates elements greater than iron. we measure the speed of light by the distance it travels in a specific amount of time. if time is the inverse of the universe wave then the farther you travel out from the center the slower time moves. if time stops at the speed of light so does the universe expansion. there is no possible way from our current vectors to determin universe expansion or contraction without taking into account the spin of the universe. the universe being a wave which is expanding at the speed of light will reach an equilibrium where the universe stops with time stopping. if time has stoopped at the edge limit of the universe then it can niether expand nor contract and will reach a steady state.where time stopping prevents it from expanding and it can't collapse for the same reason. the observed curve of the universe is because of the spin. which causes doppler shift. small particles in the universe bounce around like a beach ball in waves close to shore as large particles float smoothly by ' befor you try to castrate me for making these claims i will apolagise in advance! brain tumors like i have in the
Re: [meteorite-list] Strange Rock Reports
Hey Mike, I've seen some UNWA meteorites that look a lot like the stone you are holding. But, I would HIGHLY doubt the stone you have there is a meteorite. Much less from the PA fireball. It's not Black, no fusion crust, blah blah blah... Definitely not the PA stone. That's not to say it NOT a meteorite, there are small round nodes that look like chondrules protruding from the surface, and the red/brown spots look like oxidized iron inclusions and staining, but... It's hard to say for sure. I've had UNWA that look very similar and they had low magnetism. Slice it in half! and then send photos of the interior. Regards, Eric Mike Hankey wrote: I’ve gotten about six strange rock reports so far which is great! It shows the locals know meteorites could be on the ground and they are keeping an eye out for them. I have been able to identify most of the rocks I’ve seen so far, but this one in particular I’m not sure about. If anyone knows what this rock is please let me know. It is very hard and magnetic seemed like a lot of metal in it. It is pretty weathered and hard to tell if it has a crust on it or not. http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/gideon-rock1.jpg http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/gideon-rock2.jpg http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/gideon-rock3.jpg http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/gideon-rock4.jpg __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Strange Rock Reports
Mike: Here are some photos of a meteorite I take along on presentations to show what one may look like with the crust eroded away. You can see the metal flecks in the cut unpolished small piece. You can also just make out tiny metallic spherules in the exterior. I think this is a classified NWA, I'll have to check. I'm not an optimist, I'm a skeptic, but this does sort of look like a meteorite. Cut that sucker open! I don't know how the crust could have eroded away so quickly, so maybe not. http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z126/tboswell/001.jpg?t=1253130462 http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z126/tboswell/004-1.jpg?t=1253130505 http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z126/tboswell/006.jpg?t=1253130549 Phil Whitmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] new freebie session (ad)
Hi again list.I have a new freebie round to do.I have 25 new freebies to givaway.Everyone one who chimes in will get 2 unclassed stone meteorite individuals.So you all know what to do. Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!! __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD Michael Cottinham is going for broke!
Good afternoon, I just noticed most (if not all) of Michael Cottingham's meteorites are now 40% off on his ebay store. I just thought I would give some members of the list a heads up. I've already made a few purchases and got a really great deal on one of his silicated irons a few days ago. I know Michael is kind of shy about about doing ADs on this list (Is it OK for me to do one?).;D Thanks! Carl _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Strange Rock Reports
There are tons and tons of slag along the roads and railroad tracks in Pennsylvania. My guess is the stone is a piece of slag. It would be good to learn exactly from where it came. Dave --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Strange Rock Reports To: meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 3:23 PM I’ve gotten about six strange rock reports so far which is great! It shows the locals know meteorites could be on the ground and they are keeping an eye out for them. I have been able to identify most of the rocks I’ve seen so far, but this one in particular I’m not sure about. If anyone knows what this rock is please let me know. It is very hard and magnetic seemed like a lot of metal in it. It is pretty weathered and hard to tell if it has a crust on it or not. http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/gideon-rock1.jpg http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/gideon-rock2.jpg http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/gideon-rock3.jpg http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/gideon-rock4.jpg __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD Michael Cottinham is going for broke!
Four ads per week isn't enough? Now Spammingham has a recruit hawking his meteorites like some kind of google finance board pumper? Tsk tsk... From: carloselgua...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:34:29 -0700 Subject: [meteorite-list] AD Michael Cottinham is going for broke! Good afternoon, I just noticed most (if not all) of Michael Cottingham's meteorites are now 40% off on his ebay store. I just thought I would give some members of the list a heads up. I've already made a few purchases and got a really great deal on one of his silicated irons a few days ago. I know Michael is kind of shy about about doing ADs on this list (Is it OK for me to do one?).;D Thanks! Carl _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Bing brings you health info from trusted sources. http://www.bing.com/search?q=pet+allergyform=MHEINApubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TXT_MHEINA_Health_Health_PetAllergy_1x1 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Strange Rock Reports
THIS is a meteorite that has been on the ground awhile, years, decades, centuries, millennia? but is only partly degraded. It's lost its gloss but it's perfectly plain what it is: http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/cms/astro/cosmos/M/Meteorite THIS is a meteorite that just fell only days before some sharp-eyed fellow picked it up: http://meteoriteguy.com/lamanchaspainfall/lamancha555a.JPG What you are holding in your hand is SLAG. I mean, I don't want to be overly blunt here, but that's not the kind of rock you want to expend effort on finding. Toss it in the question mark barrel and go find one like the two pix above. You'll be a lot happier... Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com To: meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:23 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Strange Rock Reports I’ve gotten about six strange rock reports so far which is great! It shows the locals know meteorites could be on the ground and they are keeping an eye out for them. I have been able to identify most of the rocks I’ve seen so far, but this one in particular I’m not sure about. If anyone knows what this rock is please let me know. It is very hard and magnetic seemed like a lot of metal in it. It is pretty weathered and hard to tell if it has a crust on it or not. http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/gideon-rock1.jpg http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/gideon-rock2.jpg http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/gideon-rock3.jpg http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/gideon-rock4.jpg __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Strange Rock Reports
The one here looks like it fell in the La Brea tar pits. :O) geoZay http://meteoriteguy.com/lamanchaspainfall/lamancha555a.JPG __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Strange Rock Reports
THIS is a meteorite that just fell only days before some sharp-eyed fellow picked it up: http://meteoriteguy.com/lamanchaspainfall/lamancha555a.JPG I sure hope this is some kind of joke, or I'm gonna be scarred for life. The black fusion crust doesn't look like anything I thought it would look. GeoZay __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Strange Rock Reports
This looks similar to the one Mike Farmer found in Arizona a month or so ago. It has a glassy look to it. Carl THIS is a meteorite that just fell only days before some sharp-eyed fellow picked it up: http://meteoriteguy.com/lamanchaspainfall/lamancha555a.JPG I sure hope this is some kind of joke, or I'm gonna be scarred for life. The black fusion crust doesn't look like anything I thought it would look. GeoZay _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD Michael Cottinham is going for broke!
Hi Bill and all, I've been expecting your response. No, Michael Cottingham did not recruit me for his ads. Don't worry about that. Speaking for myself, I'm still a newbie and just learning and collecting meteorites. As a new collector, the only way for me to see and find any new and interesting pieces are for people just like Michael Cottingham and others. I do really appreciate their efforts. I can't believe I'm the only one on the lookout for new stuff, thus I wanted to let the others like myself know. If Michael needs to sell his meteorites to purchase more meteorites and then distribute them to the world, then I'm all for it. It means I'll be able to get something new in the end. Yes, this list is all about meteorites. Scientific knowledge, photos, collecting, ...etc., well, how do I know if anything is available for no one says anything about it? Is four ads per week excessive? Maybe, but I don't care. To me it just means more meteorites. If nothing else, at least I can enjoy the pics t hat comes with the ad. I'm probably a bit impulsive about shopping for meteorites and that's probably my main fault. So Bill and others, forgive my enthusiasm but I still can't believe I'm the only one. BTW, what is a google finance board pumper? Is that like a website? Never mind. carl Bill wrote: Four ads per week isn't enough? Now Spammingham has a recruit hawking his meteorites like some kind of google finance board pumper? Tsk tsk... _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA 5488 Micrograph Gallary update (Lodranite!)
Hi list, Paul (Meteorite Times) just updated my micrograph gallery with some NWA 5488 Lodranite images. He made a few improvements to the site and we added a full size image of the month in the features section. I am shooting at 12 mp so the file is big enough to print. Just go to http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/meteorites-alpha_frame.htm and select name or classification then pick from the menu on the left. You will need to select features at the top of the page to view the single full size image. The copy/paste function works to save this unreduced file. This is a new camera so I am always looking for feedback. Thanks, Tom Phillips PS: To all you in Denver.LUCKY __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bugs In Space!
Phil, How is this junk science Kirk... - Original Message - From: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:11 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Bugs In Space! G'day, Konnichiwa, Aloha, Top 'o the morning to ya!: Microbes from outer space living in the upper atmosphere and bacteria living for millions of years! If I only had more time to read junk science! Phil Whitmer Hi listees, Some interesting reading... ...To test if meteorites might protect bacteria on their journey through space, Horneck and her colleagues mixed samples of 50 million spores with particles of clay, red sandstone, Martian meteorite, or simulated Martian soil and made small lumps a centimeter in diameter. Between 10,000 and 100,000 spores of the original 50 million survived and when mixed with red sandstone, nearly all survived, suggesting that even meteorites a centimeter in diameter can carry life from one planet to another, if they completed the journey within a few years. In a rock a meter across, bacteria could probably survive for millions of years Still don't believe? __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Strange Rock Reports
It was my impression that he was searching for a recent fall from the observed fireball. Or maybe I got that confused with another thread. So I posted what recent falls, fresh falls, would look like. In the Eastern US, the Midwest, the high rainfall, the freeze-thaw cycling of winters, and the high porosity of meteorites pretty much guarantees that a chondrite will be transformed, even disintegrated, in short order. Deserts are a different story. Such states have an abnornally high per- centage of their finds as irons and stoney- irons. Of the eight meteorites in the 2000 edition of the NHM Catalogue listed for Pennsylvania, only three (38%) are non-iron, while 90% or more of the meteorites that fall there (and everywhere else) are stones. Why? Stones don't survive in those conditions. Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com To: sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net; Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Strange Rock Reports All: I would say it's not that cut-n-dry. I have found highly weathered meteorites that do not look like the ones Sterling has posted. I agree that the ones Mike posted they are most likely slag and definitely are not from a fall, but you never know. I like to keep an open mind. Most of the meteorites I find on Lake Beds have no fusion crust, are often fractured or broken so they have sharp edges. Even a few are very weakly attracted to a magnet due to oxidation. I found one and it looked just like a piece of dark red jasper. When it felt heavy and stuck to a magnet, I knew it was a meteorite. Good luck Mike and keep at it. Greg S. From: sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net To: mike.han...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:31:16 -0500 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Strange Rock Reports THIS is a meteorite that has been on the ground awhile, years, decades, centuries, millennia? but is only partly degraded. It's lost its gloss but it's perfectly plain what it is: http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/cms/astro/cosmos/M/Meteorite THIS is a meteorite that just fell only days before some sharp-eyed fellow picked it up: http://meteoriteguy.com/lamanchaspainfall/lamancha555a.JPG What you are holding in your hand is SLAG. I mean, I don't want to be overly blunt here, but that's not the kind of rock you want to expend effort on finding. Toss it in the question mark barrel and go find one like the two pix above. You'll be a lot happier... Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: Mike Hankey To: meteoritelist Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:23 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Strange Rock Reports I’ve gotten about six strange rock reports so far which is great! It shows the locals know meteorites could be on the ground and they are keeping an eye out for them. I have been able to identify most of the rocks I’ve seen so far, but this one in particular I’m not sure about. If anyone knows what this rock is please let me know. It is very hard and magnetic seemed like a lot of metal in it. It is pretty weathered and hard to tell if it has a crust on it or not. http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/gideon-rock1.jpg http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/gideon-rock2.jpg http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/gideon-rock3.jpg http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/gideon-rock4.jpg __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Strange Rock Reports
I think it was found by Mike, but I believe it is an eucrite (high Ca) he found in Spain??? not sure, but I think in 2008? Talk about fresh... someone must have caught it with a baseball glove. It sure is a beauty!! Greg S. From: carloselgua...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:06:50 -0700 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Strange Rock Reports This looks similar to the one Mike Farmer found in Arizona a month or so ago. It has a glassy look to it. Carl THIS is a meteorite that just fell only days before some sharp-eyed fellow picked it up: http://meteoriteguy.com/lamanchaspainfall/lamancha555a.JPG I sure hope this is some kind of joke, or I'm gonna be scarred for life. The black fusion crust doesn't look like anything I thought it would look. GeoZay _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Strange Rock Reports
No, I'm sure it was Arizona recently. Maybe some one can dig up that pic for comparison. Carl I think it was found by Mike, but I believe it is an eucrite (high Ca) he found in Spain??? not sure, but I think in 2008? Talk about fresh... someone must have caught it with a baseball glove. It sure is a beauty!! Greg S. This looks similar to the one Mike Farmer found in Arizona a month or so ago. It has a glassy look to it. Carl THIS is a meteorite that just fell only days before some sharp-eyed fellow picked it up: http://meteoriteguy.com/lamanchaspainfall/lamancha555a.JPG I sure hope this is some kind of joke, or I'm gonna be scarred for life. The black fusion crust doesn't look like anything I thought it would look. GeoZay _ Ready for Fall shows? Use Bing to find helpful ratings and reviews on digital tv's. http://www.bing.com/shopping/search?q=digital+tv'sform=MSHNCBpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MSHNCB_Vertical_Shopping_DigitalTVs_1x1 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Strange Rock Reports
I think Greg was referring to Puerto Lapice, which fell in October 2007 in Ciudad Real, Castilla-La Mancha, Spain, with a TKW of `500g, and was a eucrite. The image that Sterling posted really does look like a eucrite with its glossy fusion crust (and the file name should give it away as well). Mike Farmer's oriented stone looks like an (extra)ordinary chondrite. gary On Sep 16, 2009, at 5:25 PM, Carl 's wrote: No, I'm sure it was Arizona recently. Maybe some one can dig up that pic for comparison. Carl I think it was found by Mike, but I believe it is an eucrite (high Ca) he found in Spain??? not sure, but I think in 2008? Talk about fresh... someone must have caught it with a baseball glove. It sure is a beauty!! Greg S. This looks similar to the one Mike Farmer found in Arizona a month or so ago. It has a glassy look to it. Carl THIS is a meteorite that just fell only days before some sharp-eyed fellow picked it up: http://meteoriteguy.com/lamanchaspainfall/lamancha555a.JPG I sure hope this is some kind of joke, or I'm gonna be scarred for life. The black fusion crust doesn't look like anything I thought it would look. GeoZay _ Ready for Fall shows? Use Bing to find helpful ratings and reviews on digital tv's. http://www.bing.com/shopping/search?q=digital+tv'sform=MSHNCBpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MSHNCB_Vertical_Shopping_DigitalTVs_1x1 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara AstroDay Institute 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, HI 96720 (808) 640-9161, fuj...@mac.com http://astroday.net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Strange Rock Reports
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:20:23 -0700, you wrote: I think it was found by Mike, but I believe it is an eucrite (high Ca) he found in Spain??? Yes, La Mancha. I wish I had a piece of that just for the name! That's another thread-- we had the one on meteorite names that are people's names-- how about meteorites names with ties to classic literature? __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Strange Rock Reports
How about this one? http://www.cloudbait.com/science/bermet.html I took these pictures less than 6 hours after the meteorite fell. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: geo...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Strange Rock Reports THIS is a meteorite that just fell only days before some sharp-eyed fellow picked it up: http://meteoriteguy.com/lamanchaspainfall/lamancha555a.JPG I sure hope this is some kind of joke, or I'm gonna be scarred for life. The black fusion crust doesn't look like anything I thought it would look. GeoZay __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Asteroid Juno Grabs the Spotlight
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/features.cfm?feature=2314 Asteroid Juno Grabs the Spotlight Jet Propulsion Laboratory September 16, 2009 [Images} asteroid Juno The asteroid Juno was photographed in 2003 with a special optics system on the Hooker telescope at the Mount Wilson Observatory. The researchers at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics who took the picture used varying wavelengths of light as measured in nanometers, starting with cyan and going into the infrared. Image credit: Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics Toward the end of September, the sun will turn a spotlight on the asteroid Juno, giving that bulky lump of rock a rare featured cameo in the night sky. Those who get out to a dark, unpolluted sky will be able to spot the asteroid's silvery glint near the planet Uranus with a pair of binoculars. It can usually be seen by a good amateur telescope, but the guy on the street doesn't usually get a chance to observe it, said Don Yeomans, manager of NASA's Near Earth Object Program Office at JPL. This is going to be as bright as it gets until 2018. Juno, one of the first asteroids discovered, is thought to be the parent of many of the meteorites that rain on Earth. The asteroid is composed mostly of hardy silicate rock, which is tough enough that fragments broken off by collisions can often survive a trip through Earth's atmosphere. Though pockmarked by bang-ups with other asteroids, Juno is large; in fact, it is the tenth largest asteroid. It measures about 234 kilometers (145 miles) in diameter, or about one-fifteenth the diameter of the moon. The asteroid, which orbits the sun on a track between Mars and Jupiter, will be at its brightest on Sept. 21, when it is zooming around the sun at about 22 kilometers per second (49,000 miles per hour). At that time, its apparent magnitude will be 7.6, which is about two-and- a-half times brighter than normal. The extra brightness will come from its position in a direct line with the sun and its proximity to Earth. (The asteroid will still be about 180 million kilometers [112 million miles] away, so there is no danger it will fall towards Earth.) Skywatchers with telescopes can probably see Juno from now until the end of the year, but it is most visible to binoculars in late September. On or before Sept. 21, look for Juno near midnight a few degrees east of the brighter glow of Uranus and in the constellation Pisces. It will look like a gray dot in the sky, and each night at the end of September, it will appear slightly more southwest of its location the night before. By Sept. 25, it will be closer to the constellation Aquarius and best seen before midnight. For more information: http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/ . __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] looking for a real ruster
Hi all is there a real lost case out there? I am looking for a pallasite slice that has no hope and is just going to rust away to nothing. Actually I am looking for one that has Lawrenceite disease. Let me know what you have, I would like to see if I can save it. -- Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr. Kingman Az 86401 www.meteoritefinder.com 928-753-6825 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Strange Rock Reports
I found it! Greg Stanley was absolutely correct! Scroll down to the last few pics. You will see Mike's stone that resembles George's strange rock. I had to really strain my brain cells but I think I was confused with Mike's Arizona finds because I was looking at his website at about the same time. Sorry! http://www.meteoriteguy.com/adventures/puertolapice/puertolapice.htm Carl _ Bing brings you health info from trusted sources. http://www.bing.com/search?q=pet+allergyform=MHEINApubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TXT_MHEINA_Health_Health_PetAllergy_1x1 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Strange Rock Reports
Oops, Sorry again. In addition to Greg, I forgot to thank Gary and Carl E. for helping me jog my memory. Carl _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - eBay Australite Part Flanged Button 2.84Grams No Reserve 0.99cents
Hello all, I just listed on eBay an Australite Part Flanged Button 2.84Grams at No Reserve starting at just 0.99cents! This specimen would have easily commanded $2500 if the flange was complete. Please have a look. I can only ship by DHL Courier for an additional $40. If this is no good for you then please dont bid. Thanks in advance! Cheers, Desmond Leong IMCA #2254 http://www.TektiteInc.com http://stores.ebay.com/Tektite-Inc http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZtektiteinc-dot-com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] freebies addresses
Hi again list.I have 21 people who are getting freebies.I have 30 to go around so I need 9 more people.There are those who did not chime in with your addresses.Please do so if you want one. Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!! __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - September 17, 2009
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[meteorite-list] back to school
hello list i hope evreybody spend a good summer , the desert was very hot so guys are coming back home now that it's a little colder . i feel like if im going back to school;looking for meteorite back to the list it has been a long time i was out of town so i didn't see the list for a while also my emails, so please contact me again if i miss your emails aziz_hab...@hotmail.com thanks aziz font style=BACKGROUND-COLOR:#40; face=comic sans mshabibi aziz box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco phone. 21235576145 fax.21235576170/font __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] LARGE COMET GIVES BIRTH TO SMALL COMETS
I've always assumed that small comet fragments came from the complete breakup of the parent comet (didn't you?). But it appears that comets can produce many, many small comets without suffering any apparent harm. Or maybe this is the way comets break up... slowly? Sterling K. Webb http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/090915-mini-comets.html Comet Outburst Spawns Mini-Comets posted: 15 September 2009 A comet recently spewed out a cluster of mini comets in a huge outburst that was the largest ever witnessed by astronomers. A team of researchers began observing the comet 17P/Holmes in October 2007, after it was reported that the object, about 2.2 miles wide (3.6 km wide), had brightened by a million times in less than a day. UCLA researcher Rachel Stevenson and colleagues noted multiple fragments flying rapidly away from the comet's nucleus. They continued observing for several weeks after the outburst using the Canada-France-Hawaii Telescope in Hawaii and watched as the dust cloud ejected by the comet grew to be larger than the sun. The astronomers examined a sequence of images taken over nine nights using a digital filter that enhances small features. They found numerous tiny objects that moved away from the nucleus at speeds of up to 280 mph (125 meters per second). These objects were too bright to simply be bare rocks, but instead were more like mini comets, creating their own dust clouds as ice on their surfaces sublimated directly to vapor. Initially we thought this comet was unique simply because of the scale of the outburst, Stevenson said. But we soon realized that the aftermath of the outburst showed unusual features, such as these fast-moving fragments, that have not been detected around other comets. Although the outburst was impressive in the telescope images, it wasn't visible to the naked eye. Scientists aren't sure of the exact cause of the outburst. Possibly, pressure inside the comet built up as it moved closer to the sun, until eventually part of the surface broke away, releasing a huge cloud of dust and gas, as well as larger fragments. Even after ejecting mini comets, the solid nucleus of comet Holmes survived and continued on its orbit, seemingly unperturbed. Holmes takes about 6 years to circle the sun, and travels between the inner edge of the asteroid belt to beyond Jupiter. The comet is now moving away from the sun but will return to its closest approach in 2014, when astronomers will examine it for signs of further outbursts. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) old bob haag catalogs
I was looking through Bob's old catalogs (marvelling at some of the old prices... I wonder if Bob will let me purchase some of the pieces as listed in his 1983 catalog!) Anyway - take a look at the picture in the 1992 catalog, page 59 Definitely cracked me up - Someone is a comedian :) Sean - Original Message - From: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com To: steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) old bob haag catalogs Just in case you cannot find hard copies, bob has digital copies here: http://www.meteorites.com. It is pretty fun to page through all these and look at his price lists. Matt --Original Message-- From: steve arnold Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] (AD) old bob haag catalogs Sent: Sep 15, 2009 9:18 AM Hi list.I am looking to buy any old bob haag catalogs.Please let me know off list if anyone is willing to sell them off list please. Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!! __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
