[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - November 9, 2009

2009-11-09 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/November_9_2009.html 

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[meteorite-list] Blue/Green Moon Dust in a capsule ended on ebay item # 200401095288

2009-11-09 Thread Brian Cox
Everyone might want to have a laugh or a cry at the ridiculous ebay listing 
of the blue/green sticky candy looking Moon Dust (should I say candy in a 
stick or Pop-rocks moon dust) listing on ebay item # 200401095288 by 
seller 16apollo16


NASA does not allow any moon dust out into public hands as I am aware. I 
don't ever remember REAL moon dust being a blue/green color!


The listing ended last night Nov. 8, at $404.00 with 15 bids, but you can 
still look at it under the item #  200401095288


This is the listing title below. Seller might want to check their spelling 
of meteorite and change that to Meteorite ;-)

LUNAR MOON ROCK SOIL DUST--RARE  HISTORIC--APOLLO 16-
LUNAR SOIL FROM APOLLO 16 FLIGHTNOT A METEROITE
.

Enjoy the day, and hopefully you can see the Real, correct color of the moon 
tonight.


Brian

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Re: [meteorite-list] Blue/Green Moon Dust in a capsule ended on ebay item # 200401095288

2009-11-09 Thread Richard Kowalski
The sad part is that a number of people bid on this and the losing bid was 
for $404!


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--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Blue/Green Moon Dust in a capsule ended on ebay 
 item # 200401095288
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:29 AM
 Everyone might want to have a laugh
 or a cry at the ridiculous ebay listing of the blue/green
 sticky candy looking Moon Dust (should I say candy in a
 stick or Pop-rocks moon dust) listing on ebay item #
 200401095288 by seller 16apollo16
 
 NASA does not allow any moon dust out into public hands as
 I am aware. I don't ever remember REAL moon dust being a
 blue/green color!
 
 The listing ended last night Nov. 8, at $404.00 with 15
 bids, but you can still look at it under the item # 
 200401095288
 
 This is the listing title below. Seller might want to check
 their spelling of meteorite and change that to Meteorite
 ;-)
 LUNAR MOON ROCK SOIL DUST--RARE  HISTORIC--APOLLO 16-
 LUNAR SOIL FROM APOLLO 16 FLIGHTNOT A METEROITE
 .
 
 Enjoy the day, and hopefully you can see the Real, correct
 color of the moon tonight.
 
 Brian
 
 IMCA # 6387 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone remember this?

2009-11-09 Thread Darryl Pitt



Hiya,

I was not aware this was determined to be space debrisand  
stainless steel no less?   All best / d,





On Nov 9, 2009, at 11:31 AM, Grant Elliott wrote:


Carl,

Wasn't a wood chipper a possible source for this object?
Certain experts at Rutgers still have egg on face-

Grant Elliott
Williamstown, NJ


On Nov 7, 2009, at 1:58 PM, cdtuc...@cox.net cdtuc...@cox.net  
wrote:



Darryl, List,
I just came across this in my old mail and have a question.
I know you are an expert so, obviously you knew it was not a  
meteorite by sight.
So, the question is this. Since we know now that  It was determined  
to be space debris from a pervious space mission and I believe they  
called it stainless steel. Would it not still have a great value  
because it was once in space? And shouldn't it still have fusion  
crust? Why does it not? Where is the fusion crust? Is it possible  
that some metal meteorites do not have fusion crusts? I would love  
to see the analysis of this space rock. It seems to me this should  
argue against a must have  for fusion crust. Is this not the  
observed science here ? And are we supposed to ignore the science?  
This thing crashed through a roof and caused significant damage. Do  
you have any inside knowledge of what ever happened to the rock?  
Thanks Carl


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 Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com wrote:


Obviously at the outset a meteorwrongbut somehow required months
to establish after a team of scientists from Rutgers declared it  
was a

meteorite.

With no visual or sonic phenomena to accompany the low altitude
explosion, which would have been the only explanation for such a  
shape
and striated surface character without fusion crust, there was no  
way

this was a meteorite.  I vigorously pointed out to the local
newspapers and Rutgers this couldn't possibly be a meteorite to no
avail.  I was on a live FOX radio show where they literally took me
off the air after having called me to ask what I thought of the new
meteorite.  When I pointed out that it was unlikely this was a
meteorite, they pointed out And you have a degree in what? and  
upon

my answer cut to a commercial and I was toast.

Months after Rutgers put the object on display in their natural
history museum---for which they attracted their largest crowds  
ever---
it was publicly acknowledged the origin of this object was of  
earthly

provenance.



On May 8, 2009, at 4:27 AM, Meteorites USA wrote:


Does anyone remember or know what came of this?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/01/070105-space-rock.html

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Re: [meteorite-list] Blue/Green Moon Dust in a capsule ended on ebay item # 200401095288

2009-11-09 Thread Gary Fujihara

So ... where is that turnip truck these bidders are falling off of?

gary

On Nov 9, 2009, at 7:23 AM, Richard Kowalski wrote:

The sad part is that a number of people bid on this and the losing  
bid was for $404!



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--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: [meteorite-list] Blue/Green Moon Dust in a capsule ended  
on ebay item # 200401095288

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:29 AM
Everyone might want to have a laugh
or a cry at the ridiculous ebay listing of the blue/green
sticky candy looking Moon Dust (should I say candy in a
stick or Pop-rocks moon dust) listing on ebay item #
200401095288 by seller 16apollo16

NASA does not allow any moon dust out into public hands as
I am aware. I don't ever remember REAL moon dust being a
blue/green color!

The listing ended last night Nov. 8, at $404.00 with 15
bids, but you can still look at it under the item #
200401095288

This is the listing title below. Seller might want to check
their spelling of meteorite and change that to Meteorite
;-)
LUNAR MOON ROCK SOIL DUST--RARE  HISTORIC--APOLLO 16-
LUNAR SOIL FROM APOLLO 16 FLIGHTNOT A METEROITE
.

Enjoy the day, and hopefully you can see the Real, correct
color of the moon tonight.

Brian

IMCA # 6387
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Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone remember this?

2009-11-09 Thread Sterling K. Webb

Hi,

The Bloomington, Illinois incident about
the same time was determined to be a
wood chipper blade. The New Jersey Object
was determined to be terrestrial in origin,
but of unknown provenance. Possibly
they were too embarassed to look further
after bally-hooing it?


Sterling K. Webb
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To: Grant Elliott g...@bellatlantic.net
Cc: meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone remember this?





Hiya,

I was not aware this was determined to be space debrisand 
stainless steel no less?   All best / d,





On Nov 9, 2009, at 11:31 AM, Grant Elliott wrote:


Carl,

Wasn't a wood chipper a possible source for this object?
Certain experts at Rutgers still have egg on face-

Grant Elliott
Williamstown, NJ


On Nov 7, 2009, at 1:58 PM, cdtuc...@cox.net cdtuc...@cox.net 
wrote:



Darryl, List,
I just came across this in my old mail and have a question.
I know you are an expert so, obviously you knew it was not a 
meteorite by sight.
So, the question is this. Since we know now that  It was determined 
to be space debris from a pervious space mission and I believe they 
called it stainless steel. Would it not still have a great value 
because it was once in space? And shouldn't it still have fusion 
crust? Why does it not? Where is the fusion crust? Is it possible 
that some metal meteorites do not have fusion crusts? I would love 
to see the analysis of this space rock. It seems to me this should 
argue against a must have  for fusion crust. Is this not the 
observed science here ? And are we supposed to ignore the science? 
This thing crashed through a roof and caused significant damage. Do 
you have any inside knowledge of what ever happened to the rock? 
Thanks Carl


--
Carl or Debbie Esparza
(520) 979-9865
Meteoritemax


 Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com wrote:


Obviously at the outset a meteorwrongbut somehow required 
months
to establish after a team of scientists from Rutgers declared it 
was a

meteorite.

With no visual or sonic phenomena to accompany the low altitude
explosion, which would have been the only explanation for such a 
shape
and striated surface character without fusion crust, there was no 
way

this was a meteorite.  I vigorously pointed out to the local
newspapers and Rutgers this couldn't possibly be a meteorite to no
avail.  I was on a live FOX radio show where they literally took me
off the air after having called me to ask what I thought of the 
new

meteorite.  When I pointed out that it was unlikely this was a
meteorite, they pointed out And you have a degree in what? and 
upon

my answer cut to a commercial and I was toast.

Months after Rutgers put the object on display in their natural
history museum---for which they attracted their largest crowds 
ever---
it was publicly acknowledged the origin of this object was of 
earthly

provenance.



On May 8, 2009, at 4:27 AM, Meteorites USA wrote:


Does anyone remember or know what came of this?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/01/070105-space-rock.html

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Eric Wichman
Meteorites USA

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[meteorite-list] SALE-Santa Rosa Iron Meteorite

2009-11-09 Thread robert cucchiara
Hi List, I have many gorgeous slices of the rare Santa Rosa iron meteorite.
Some slices have beautiful graphite inclusions. Classified as an IC Ataxite
but as evidenced by the photos this is not an ataxite but a extremely nice
altered octahedrite. Very little of this meteorite has ever made it to any
personal collections in the past. Most being locked up in museums and
institutions. Santa Rosa has a very interesting story which you can view
below!  A couple of years ago an additional mass was recovered of about 30
kilos. These slices come from that mass These slices were professionally
prepared by Marlin Cilz. There were only 7 complete slices. I don't believe
complete slices have ever been offered of Santa Rosa. Now may be your only
chance to get one of these. Less than 6 kilos are available at the best
price ever offered for Santa Rosa at only $6 a gram. Some slices have
already sold. FREE SHIPPING IN THE US!! $12.95 for international customers.
See all that is available here!
http://www.meteoritemadness.com/santarosa.html
Reply to this message off list or email with your choice to
r.cucchi...@comcast.net . 
First come, first served
Thank you Bob C.


HENRY A. WARD AND THE RECOVERY OF THE 
SANTA ROSA, COLOMBIA, METEORITE 
H. Plotkin, Department of Philosophy, University of Western Ontario, London,
Ontario N6A3K7, Canada. 
Email:hplot...@uwo.ca
Henry A. Ward (1834-1906) was perhaps the shrewdest and most enthusiastic
meteorite collector of his day. He was also very knowledgeable. Word of a
massive iron meteorite in Santa Rosa, Colombia, captured his imagination.
Ward's interest can best be viewed in the context of the confusion that
existed between this meteorite and two other irons that had been found
nearby, Tocavita and Rasgata. In an effort to clear up the mess-- and also
to see if he could acquire the meteorite in whole or in part--he decided to
visit the desolate locale in 1906, a few weeks prior to his 72nd birthday.
My account of Ward's Colombian trip is primarily based on the extensive
collection of unpublished material in the Henry A. Ward papers at the
University of Rochester, including diaries, correspondence, and photographs.
Upon arrival in Colombia, it took Ward nineteen days by steamer, mule, and
carriage to reach Santa Rosa. He arrived at nightfall, but as soon as he
looked out from his hotel window the next morning, he saw the large
meteorite (612.5 kg) perched atop a fluted column in the middle of the town
square. Ward realized the meteorite was highly venerated by the townspeople,
and knew it would be extremely difficult--if not impossible--to acquire any
of it. But he had a clever plan. Calling on the Governor, Ward boldly
proposed an exchange: in return for a promise to erect a statue in the town
square of the President of the Republic (who happened to have been born in
Santa Rosa), he would be given the entire meteorite. The Governor liked this
idea, and at a stormy meeting with the Mayor and other municipal officers
forced their approval. Late that night, in the middle of a large eating and
drinking party which Ward threw at his hotel for the townspeople, the
Governor and a party of 50 soldiers quietly overturned the column, placed
the meteorite on a cart, and whisked it away. Ward left for Bogota the next
day, but shortly after reaching there heard that the Chief of the Colombian
police had sent out a party that had captured his wagon, retrieved the
meteorite, and locked up the cart driver. Although Ward insisted he had
proper authorization for the meteorite, a heated legal battle ensued. A
decision by the Minister of Public Instruction forbade him to leave the
country with the meteorite, but he was allowed to cut off a large endpiece
(147.5 kg) for his efforts. Ward took this back with him to New York, but he
died tragically a few months after his return, when struck by an automobile
while crossing a street in Buffalo. Ward's unfinished report on the Santa
Rosa meteorite will be examined, as will our present understanding of its
relationship to Tocavita and Rasgata. The main mass of the Santa Rosa
meteorite (about 460 kg) is now in the National Museum in Bogota, while
Ward's endpiece was cut up and distributed to various museums throughout the
world for study and curation.
67th Annual Meteoritical Society Meeting (2004) 5038.pdf


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[meteorite-list] Once Weekly AD - Great Material Ending At Auction

2009-11-09 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members,


If you have the time, please check out some great auctions due to end this 
evening and tomorrow afternoon. All of them were started out at just 99 cents 
with no reserve. Plenty of bargains; Some items do not even have bids 
yet! 

All auctions can be found at this link:
http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/raremeteorites!_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_mdoZ


Thank 
you for looking and if you are bidding, good luck.


Best 
Regards,


Adam Hupe
The Hupe 
Collection
Team LunarRock
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[meteorite-list] Fw: Blue/Green Moon Dust in a capsule ended on ebay item # 200401095288

2009-11-09 Thread Brian Cox
Part of what really angers me about this Turquoise-colored Moon Dust is that 
if you look at the ebay auction he included a photo copy of a Business Week, 
May 23, 1996 article that has a paragraph about Robert Haag's 1.35 carat 
Calcalong Creek lunar meteorite up for auction. He was using that with Bob's 
good name and that old 1996 auction as part of his ploy to sell this stuff.
I honestly feel that the seller was obviously trying to attract us 
Meteorite Collectors but since he spelled meteorite wrong and put in his 
listing the words:


NOT A METEROITE  with that incorrect spelling, that most of us didn't 
see the auction when we searched ebay for meteorites and didn't come up with 
this crazy auction.


Have a great day!!!

Brian


- Original Message - 
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To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:29 AM
Subject: Blue/Green Moon Dust in a capsule ended on ebay item # 200401095288


Everyone might want to have a laugh or a cry at the ridiculous ebay 
listing of the blue/green sticky candy looking Moon Dust (should I say 
candy in a stick or Pop-rocks moon dust) listing on ebay item # 
200401095288 by seller 16apollo16


NASA does not allow any moon dust out into public hands as I am aware. I 
don't ever remember REAL moon dust being a blue/green color!


The listing ended last night Nov. 8, at $404.00 with 15 bids, but you can 
still look at it under the item #  200401095288


This is the listing title below. Seller might want to check their spelling 
of meteorite and change that to Meteorite ;-)



LUNAR MOON ROCK SOIL DUST--RARE  HISTORIC--APOLLO 16-
LUNAR SOIL FROM APOLLO 16 FLIGHTNOT A METEROITE
.

Enjoy the day, and hopefully you can see the Real, correct color of the 
moon tonight.


Brian

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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - November 9, 2009

2009-11-09 Thread Robert Woolard
Michael and Greg,

  Thanks, Michael for your continuing daily efforts to bring us all such nice 
photos of great specimens. And Greg, congrats on the beautiful lunar.

  Best wishes,
  Robert Woolard



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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - November9, 2009

2009-11-09 Thread spacerocksinc
My pleasure Robert!
Thank you and all who have contributed!
Best wishes,
Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org

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2009
Sent: Nov 9, 2009 5:58 PM

Michael and Greg,

  Thanks, Michael for your continuing daily efforts to bring us all such nice 
photos of great specimens. And Greg, congrats on the beautiful lunar.

  Best wishes,
  Robert Woolard



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[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - November 4, 2009

2009-11-09 Thread Ron Baalke


MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES
November 4, 2009

o Pitted Layers Northeast of Hellas Region (PSP_010839_1525)
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_010839_1525

o Evolution of the South Polar Residual Cap
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_004687_0930

o Southeastern Margin of Athabasca Valles
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_014304_1895

o Gullies with Dark Channels
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_014296_1255

o Sand Dunes
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_014291_1120


All of the HiRISE images are archived here:

http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/

Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is 
online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is 
managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division 
of the California Institute of Technology, for the NASA 
Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Lockheed 
Martin Space Systems, of Denver, is the prime contractor 
and built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the 
University of Arizona. Ball Aerospace and Technologies 
Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE instrument.

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[meteorite-list] Frost-Covered Phoenix Lander Seen in Winter Images

2009-11-09 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2009-160icid='MostViewHome'  

Frost-Covered Phoenix Lander Seen in Winter Images
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
November 04, 2009

PASADENA, Calif. -- Winter images of NASA's Phoenix Lander showing the
lander shrouded in dry-ice frost on Mars have been captured with the
High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment, or HiRISE camera, aboard
NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter.

The HiRISE camera team at the University of Arizona, Tucson, captured
one image of the Phoenix lander on July 30, 2009, and the other on Aug.
22, 2009. That's when the sun began peeking over the horizon of the
northern polar plains during winter, the imaging team said. The first
day of spring in the northern hemisphere began Oct. 26.

The images are available at http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_014393_2485.

We decided to try imaging the site despite the low light levels, said
HiRISE team member Ingrid Spitale of the University of Arizona Lunar and
Planetary Laboratory.

The power of the HiRISE camera helped us see it even under these poor
light conditions, added HiRISE team member Michael Mellon of the
University of Colorado in Boulder, who was also on the Phoenix Mars
Lander science team.

The HiRISE team targeted their camera at the known location of the
lander to get the new images and compared them to a HiRISE image of the
frost-free lander taken in June 2008. That enabled them to identify the
hardware disguised by frost, despite the fact that their views were
hindered by poor lighting and by atmospheric haze, which often obscures
the surface at this location and season.

Carbon dioxide frost completely blankets the surface in both images. The
amount of carbon dioxide frost builds as late winter transitions to
early spring, so the layer of frost is thicker in the Aug. 22 image.

HiRISE scientists noted that brightness doesn't necessarily indicate the
amount of frost seen in the images because of the way the images are
processed to produce optimal contrast. Even the darker areas in the
frost-covered images are still brighter than typical soil that surrounds
the lander in frost-free images taken during the lander's prime mission
in 2008.

Other factors that affect the relative brightness include the size of
the individual grains of carbon dioxide ice, the amount of dust mixed
with the ice, the amount of sunlight hitting the surface and different
lighting angles and slopes, Spitale and Mellon said.

Studying these changes will help us understand the nature of the
seasonal frost and winter weather patterns in this area of Mars.

Scientists predicted that the ice layer would reach maximum thickness in
September 2009, but don't have images to confirm that because HiRISE
camera operations were suspended when Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter
entered an extended safe mode on Aug. 26.

The Phoenix Mars Lander ceased communications last November, after
successfully completing its mission and returning unprecedented primary
science phase and returning science data to Earth. During the first
quarter of 2010, teams at JPL will listen to see if Phoenix is still
able to communicate with Earth. Communication is not expected and is
considered highly unlikely following the extended period of frost on the
lander.

HiRISE is run from the Lunar and Planetary Laboratory's HiRISE
Operations Center, on the University of Arizona campus. Planetary
Sciences Professor Alfred McEwen is HiRISE principal investigator.
Planetary Sciences Professor Peter Smith is principal investigator for
the Phoenix Mars Lander mission. The Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is
managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the
California Institute of Technology, for NASA Science Mission
Directorate, Washington. Lockheed Martin Space Systems, based in Denver,
is the prime contractor and built the spacecraft. Ball Aerospace
Technologies Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE camera.

For more information about the mission, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/mro .

Guy Webster 818-354-6278
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
guy.webs...@jpl.nasa.gov

2009-160

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[meteorite-list] Small Asteroid 2009 VA Whizzes By The Earth

2009-11-09 Thread Ron Baalke

  
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news166.html

Small Asteroid 2009 VA Whizzes By The Earth
Don Yeomans, Paul Chodas, Steve Chesley
NASA/JPL Near-Earth Object Program Office
November 9, 2009

[Graphic]
Trajectory of Asteroid 2009 VA Past Earth on November 6, 2009

A newly discovered asteroid designated 2009 VA, which is only about 7
meters in size, passed about 2 Earth radii (14,000 km) from the Earth's
surface Nov. 6 at around 16:30 EST. This is the third-closest known
(non-impacting) Earth approach on record for a cataloged asteroid. The
two closer approaches include the 1-meter sized asteroid 2008 TS26,
which passed within 6,150 km of the Earth's surface on October 9, 2008,
and the 7-meter sized asteroid 2004 FU162 that passed within 6,535 km on
March 31, 2004. On average, objects the size of 2009 VA pass this close
about twice per year and impact Earth about once every 5 years.

Asteroid 2009 VA was discovered by the Catalina Sky Survey about 15
hours before the close approach, and was quickly identified by the Minor
Planet Center in Cambridge MA as an object that would soon pass very
close to the Earth. JPL's Near-Earth Object Program Office also computed
an orbit solution for this object, and determined that it was not headed
for an impact. Only thirteen months ago, the somewhat smaller object
2008 TC3 was discovered under similar circumstances, but that one was
found to be on a trajectory headed for the Earth, with impact only about
11 hours away.

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[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: November 2-6, 2009

2009-11-09 Thread Ron Baalke

MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
November 2-6, 2009

o Rabe Crater Dunes (02 November 2009)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20091102a

o Nirgal Vallis (04 November 2009)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20091104a

o Reull Vallis (05 November 2009)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20091105a

o Channel (06 November 2009)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20091106a


All of the THEMIS images are archived here:

http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission 
for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission 
Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University,
Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. 
The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State 
University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor 
for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission 
operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a 
division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. 



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[meteorite-list] Troubled Asteroid Mission Stumbles on Road Home (Hayabusa)

2009-11-09 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n0911/09hayabusa/

Troubled asteroid mission stumbles on road home
BY STEPHEN CLARK 
SPACEFLIGHT NOW
November 9, 2009

Hopes are fading for the return of the Hayabusa space probe after
another of its ion thrusters failed last week, leaving just one
already-damaged engine to guide the hard-luck spacecraft back to Earth,
potentially with the first precious samples of an asteroid.

Hayabusa's four experimental microwave discharge ion engines consume
xenon gas and expel the ionized propellant at high speeds to produce
thrust. Two of the thrusters already failed before another engine shut
down last Wednesday, according to the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency.

Thruster D's failure was caused by a voltage spike due to problems with
a neutralization vessel. A similar anomaly triggered the failure of
another engine in 2007.

The fourth ion propulsion unit, called Thruster C, was already shut down
after signs that it also might succumb to high voltage damage. Engineers
are now testing that engine to determine if it is capable of
long-duration firings.

Ion engines are more efficient than conventional chemical thrusters
because they use less fuel and can operate continuously for thousands of
hours.

Hayabusa's thrusters have accumulated almost 40,000 hours of burn time
since the probe launched in May 2003.

The engine that failed last week had been firing since February to bend
the 950-pound probe's trajectory, allowing it to reach Earth by June
2010 and release a small re-entry capsule possibly carrying samples from
asteroid Itokawa.

In February, JAXA officials said Hayabusa needed to accelerate by about
900 mph to reach Earth. Thruster D was slated to continue operating
until March, when Hayabusa would begin coasting toward its parachuted
return over the desert of Australia.

Officials now say they are evaluating the asteroid mission's return
course after last week's glitch.

Hayabusa spent three months exploring Itokawa in late 2005. The probe
took 1,600 pictures and collected about 120,000 pieces of near-infrared
spectral data and 15,000 data points with its X-ray spectrometer to
investigate the small potato-shaped asteroid's surface composition.

The spacecraft approached Itokawa several times, attempting to fire a
pellet into the asteroid's surface and retrieve rock samples through a
funnel leading to a collection chamber.

During a failed sampling attempt in November 2005, Hayabusa made an
unplanned landing and spent up to a half-hour on Itokawa, becoming the
first spacecraft to take off from an asteroid.

Although telemetry showed Hayabusa likely did not fire its projectile
while on the surface, scientists were hopeful bits of dust or pebbles
found their way through the funnel and into the sample retrieval system.

Hayabusa was later stymied by a fuel leak and ground controllers
temporarily lost communications with the spacecraft, which is about the
size of an average refrigerator.

Controllers labored to overcome the issues, which were compounded by the
loss of two orientation-controlling reaction wheels and power cells in
an electrical battery.

The craft's departure from Itokawa was delayed a year because of the
problems, postponing its return to Earth from 2007 until 2010.

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[meteorite-list] Ground Teams Struggle to Save Mars Orbiter from Itself (MRO)

2009-11-09 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n0911/07mro/

Ground teams struggle to save Mars orbiter from itself
BY STEPHEN CLARK 
SPACEFLIGHT NOW
November 7, 2009

Although engineers are still weeks from uplinking new command logic to
eliminate an unlikely, but potentially fatal, scenario jeopardizing the
Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, the mission's project manager said Friday
he is confident the $720 million mission will resume soon.

After four science-halting computer resets this year, officials in
charge of MRO decided to keep the probe in safe mode until they could
ensure the glitches would not threaten the mission.

Engineers are pursuing two paths of analysis to reach a solution to the
reset problem.

One group is trying to devise a fix to be uplinked for the spacecraft to
tell itself it is at Mars. Another is investigating the root cause of
the events.

In one far-fetched but plausible scenario, MRO could revert to its
pre-launch mode and attempt to make a hardline connection with ground
controllers more than 100 million miles away.

If we had the same kind of resets that we've seen four of this year,
but you get more severe ones and you get them too close together, you
could have the vehicle forget that it's in mapping orbit around Mars and
instead think that it's still on the launch pad and only communicate
through an umbilical cable, which isn't long enough to get there
anymore, Erickson said.

Four major causes for the resets are being studied, according to Erickson.

The candidates include a momentary glitch removing power from a
component in the computer, a problem with reference voltage, radiation,
or a grounding issue.

It's more than likely to be one of those four things or a flavor of
them, Erickson said.

According to Erickson, it will be several weeks to a month before MRO is
ready to gradually return to normal operations. The spacecraft has not
been conducting science observations since its last computer reset Aug. 26.

Since late August, MRO has been in safe mode with its solar array
tracking the sun for power and its antenna pointed at Earth to maintain
communications.

It's the safest condition for the spacecraft, so we said just leave it
there until we get a better handle on this, said Doug McCuistion,
director NASA's Mars exploration program.

In early September, officials said they expected it to take a few weeks
to recover MRO and resume operations, but it has now spent nearly three
months in safe mode.

Erickson said engineers are testing the new algorithms on the ground
before uplinking them to MRO.

We take our jobs of protecting this vehicle really seriously, Erickson
said. It's a really important asset to the American people. When we
find something like this, we try to make sure that it can't happen
(again).

The worry is that MRO could experience two computer resets, more severe
than any of the glitches so far, on its primary and redundant control
strings within one minute of each other.

The first one has to wipe out all information on the side of the
spacecraft it's on now, and cause a side swap to the other side,
Erickson said. And then within a minute, we've got to have the same
thing happen, where it wipes out all the information about what mission
phase it's in.

It takes about a minute for the second string to repopulate the first
string with information on MRO's mission phase.

So you could have resets that are 1 minute and 5 seconds apart and it's
not a problem, Erickson said.

The computer resets began in February, followed by another anomaly in
June and two in August. The increasing frequency of the events concerned
NASA managers.

The fix being designed by NASA involves changing data parameters in
MRO's computer. When the spacecraft reboots, it searches a table in its
nonvolatile memory in the command and data handling unit's computer
module interface card, or CMIC, to determine if the mission is in
pre-launch, launch, cruise, orbit insertion, or mapping mode.

In all the places where it's going to look, we have inserted only the
possibility to be in mapping, Erickson said.

Engineers are leery of writing to the nonvolatile memory, which is
similar to flash, so officials are being cautious to ensure the fix will
not cause additional problems.

They've been working hard on the testbed to try to understand the
interactions of the software and the CMIC, McCuistion said.

The new data parameter logic will likely be loaded into MRO's computer
before officials identify the most likely root cause of the resets. It
could take longer for engineers to close out the fault tree.

They're having these resets due to a problem in the actual command and
data handling system, Erickson said. It's a hardware problem. These
resets are happening so fast that they leave virtually no trace of
what's causing them to happen.

It's happening in the nanoseconds to milliseconds range, so there's
nothing. Just some indication that the event was 'this trigger happened'
and that's it, Erickson said.

[meteorite-list] AD: FOR SALE: (1) NICE 47.4 g Unclassified whole stone 36.5 g bag of Unclass. stones AND Austrian Meteorite stamps

2009-11-09 Thread Becky and Kirk




Hi All,
I have the following UNCLASSIFIED Meteorites for sale and also (2) Austrian
Meteorite stamps. This stamp has the Meteorite dust on the stamp. They can 
be

purchased separately or as a group. I am also open to offers for these of
course.

(1) Very nice 47.4 gram whole Unclassified whole stone. Very nice form and 
shape! NICE!!

(PLEASE MAKE A REASONABLE OFFER)!! Pics on request.

(1) Small bag containing 36.5 total grams Unclassified Meteorites (4) 
stones, a few slices and a fragment.  (PLEASE MAKE A REASONABLE OFFER) Pics 
on request.


(2) Austrian Meteorite stamps. Has tiny bits  dust of an H-Chondrite 
Meteorite

imbedded in the tail of the Meteorite on the stamp! Very unique stamp from
March 2006. Very good shape, kept in container. Rest of Meteorite is in a 
Austrian Museum.

($20.00 EACH or BEST OFFER). Pics on request.

Interested parties please contact me off-list at: ba...@chorus.net.

Thank you very much!!
Kirk...:-)





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[meteorite-list] pre-thanksgiving freebies

2009-11-09 Thread steve arnold
Hi all.I hope all are doing fine.I have another freebie session that is about 
to commence.I have 20 unclassified stoneys to givaway.Be the first 20 and 
receive a pre-thanksgiving freebie.I have decided to do only the usa this time 
around because of the extreme shipping costs.So be the chimmer or be chimed out.
 Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!! 
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[meteorite-list] SaU 001 Incident Light Micrograph

2009-11-09 Thread STARSANDSCOPES
Hi List,  My first love in meteorite  micrographs is high magnification 
incident light (reflected) images of thick  samples.  My first article in 
Meteorite Magazine was this technique. For  the last couple years I have only 
worked on cross polarized transmitted light  images of thin sections.  One of 
the reasons is camera/adapter for my  Neophot issues.  I was given the use of 
a lathe and I turned down a  suitable part to address this.

I wanted to share a shot of a SaU 001  chondrule up close.  If you would 
like to take a look please email me and  let me know if you want the reduced 
embedded file or the full size 12mp as an  attachment.  (Many Internet hosts 
will reject that large of a  file).

I think the chondrule looks like a planet.

Thanks,   Tom Phillips  

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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Question

2009-11-09 Thread Pete Shugar

What is the smallest Main Mass and as a bonus
question, who has it?

I hold a NWA 1953 @ 11.73 gm.
Anyone got a smaller one?
Pete IMCA 1733

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Question

2009-11-09 Thread Frank Cressy
Hello Pete and all,

How about Hadley Rille?

~3 milligrams, curated at Johnson Space Center.

Cheers,

Frank





From: Pete Shugar pshu...@clearwire.net
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 7:37:40 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Question

What is the smallest Main Mass and as a bonus
question, who has it?

I hold a NWA 1953 @ 11.73 gm.
Anyone got a smaller one?
Pete IMCA 1733

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Question

2009-11-09 Thread Jason Utas
Yo,
We have some Californian meteorites in the 0.6-7g range - and they're
complete, yet to be analyzed -

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cameteoritefinder/458984539/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cameteoritefinder/458984557/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cameteoritefinder/3058394982/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cameteoritefinder/2573349607/

As well as the Superior Valley 014 main mass, at 1.05g.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cameteoritefinder/388609022/sizes/l/

- Most of our stones from that lakebed are in the 1-3g range.

I have plenty of examples of small finds, though -

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cameteoritefinder/3936052730/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cameteoritefinder/3936052636/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cameteoritefinder/3918795874/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cameteoritefinder/2573329463/

That's most of what I have online...if you'd like more photos, I can
email some over.
But one should note -there are plenty of tiny antarctic stones - many
less than a gram, though pairing is difficult to judge.
And yes, Hadley Rille pretty much trumps all of those.
Regards,
Jason

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Pete Shugar pshu...@clearwire.net wrote:
 What is the smallest Main Mass and as a bonus
 question, who has it?

 I hold a NWA 1953 @ 11.73 gm.
 Anyone got a smaller one?
 Pete IMCA 1733

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Question

2009-11-09 Thread Greg Hupe

I've never understood the 'greeting', Yo...


- Original Message - 
From: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com
To: Pete Shugar pshu...@clearwire.net; Meteorite-list 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Question



Yo,
We have some Californian meteorites in the 0.6-7g range - and they're
complete, yet to be analyzed -

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cameteoritefinder/458984539/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cameteoritefinder/458984557/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cameteoritefinder/3058394982/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cameteoritefinder/2573349607/

As well as the Superior Valley 014 main mass, at 1.05g.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cameteoritefinder/388609022/sizes/l/

- Most of our stones from that lakebed are in the 1-3g range.

I have plenty of examples of small finds, though -

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cameteoritefinder/3936052730/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cameteoritefinder/3936052636/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cameteoritefinder/3918795874/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cameteoritefinder/2573329463/

That's most of what I have online...if you'd like more photos, I can
email some over.
But one should note -there are plenty of tiny antarctic stones - many
less than a gram, though pairing is difficult to judge.
And yes, Hadley Rille pretty much trumps all of those.
Regards,
Jason

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Pete Shugar pshu...@clearwire.net wrote:

What is the smallest Main Mass and as a bonus
question, who has it?

I hold a NWA 1953 @ 11.73 gm.
Anyone got a smaller one?
Pete IMCA 1733

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[meteorite-list] Yo

2009-11-09 Thread Richard Kowalski
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yo


--
Richard Kowalski
http://fullmoonphotography.net
IMCA #1081


--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net wrote:

 From: Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Question
 To: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com, Pete Shugar 
 pshu...@clearwire.net, Meteorite-list 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:14 PM
 I've never understood the 'greeting',
 Yo...
 


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Yo

2009-11-09 Thread Greg Hupe

Hi Richard,

OK, I get it, an effortless reply to someone you do know what their name 
is.


G-
;-)

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com
To: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com; Pete Shugar 
pshu...@clearwire.net; Meteorite-list 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net

Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:20 PM
Subject: Yo



http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yo


--
Richard Kowalski
http://fullmoonphotography.net
IMCA #1081


--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net wrote:


From: Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Question
To: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com, Pete Shugar 
pshu...@clearwire.net, Meteorite-list 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:14 PM
I've never understood the 'greeting',
Yo...









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Re: [meteorite-list] Yo

2009-11-09 Thread Jason Utas
Yep - it's #'s 2, 4, 5, 7.
Be careful with that site, though - there's some sketchy/very
inappropriate stuff on there.

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net wrote:
 Hi Richard,

 OK, I get it, an effortless reply to someone you do know what their name
 is.

 G-
 ;-)

 - Original Message - From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com
 To: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com; Pete Shugar
 pshu...@clearwire.net; Meteorite-list
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net
 Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:20 PM
 Subject: Yo


 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yo


 --
 Richard Kowalski
 http://fullmoonphotography.net
 IMCA #1081


 --- On Mon, 11/9/09, Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net wrote:

 From: Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Question
 To: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com, Pete Shugar
 pshu...@clearwire.net, Meteorite-list
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:14 PM
 I've never understood the 'greeting',
 Yo...








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Re: [meteorite-list] Yo

2009-11-09 Thread Greg Hupe

Hi Jason,

I read #6, then went back to your list of numbers yo stated. I am sorry, but 
I did have a good laugh before I realized I read #6 which was not on your 
list.


Good luck out there in the urban jungle! I must be getting old, I need a 
translator for English now! :-/


P.S. Matt, Wasn't the Yo-Yo an old toy that us old fogies used as 
entertainment before computers?!

:-)

Greg


- Original Message - 
From: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com
To: Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net; Meteorite-list 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Yo



Yep - it's #'s 2, 4, 5, 7.
Be careful with that site, though - there's some sketchy/very
inappropriate stuff on there.

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net wrote:

Hi Richard,

OK, I get it, an effortless reply to someone you do know what their 
name

is.

G-
;-)

- Original Message - From: Richard Kowalski 
damoc...@yahoo.com

To: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com; Pete Shugar
pshu...@clearwire.net; Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:20 PM
Subject: Yo



http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yo


--
Richard Kowalski
http://fullmoonphotography.net
IMCA #1081


--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net wrote:


From: Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Question
To: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com, Pete Shugar
pshu...@clearwire.net, Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:14 PM
I've never understood the 'greeting',
Yo...















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Re: [meteorite-list] Yo

2009-11-09 Thread Melanie Matthews

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What does this have to do with meteorites? :-S=20

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 I've never understood the 'greeting'=2C
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Re: [meteorite-list] Yo

2009-11-09 Thread Matson, Robert D.
 P.S. Matt, Wasn't the Yo-Yo an old toy that us old fogies used as
entertainment before computers?!

Yes.  But now Yo-Yo is a cellist.  ;-)  --Rob
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[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - November 10, 2009

2009-11-09 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/November_10_2009.html



  
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[meteorite-list] YO

2009-11-09 Thread Phil Whitmer

Yo Adrian!  Number 80 on Wickipedia's all time list of movie quotes.

Yo started as an Italian interjection and was later co-opted by the urban 
(black), rap and  hip hop culture. Nowadays it's been adopted by mainstream 
culture as a common exclamation.


Yo Richard: The Urban Dictionary, an indispensable resource to all serious 
students of slang.



Phil Whitmer 


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