[meteorite-list] Old-Time Cosmic Catastrophism is Alive and Well
Dear friends, While searching the Internet, I can across examples that show that no-holds-barred cosmic catastrophism is still alive and well. Some examples include: Spedicato, E., 2009, Hypotheses and Scientific Approaches to Human Memory of Four Great Catastrophes. The 2009 Conference on Quantavolution, Kandersteg, Switzerland. http://www.2009-kandersteg.q-conferences.com/fromfirstdayinge/index.html http://www.2009-kandersteg.q-conferences.com/fromfirstdayinge/genexodus.pdf Another lecture by Dr. Spedicato, Solomon and Dionysus: Who Were They? Two Mysteries Solved, Again Confirming the Validity of Ancient Texts at: http://www.2009-kandersteg.q-conferences.com/solomonanddionys/index.html http://www.2009-kandersteg.q-conferences.com/solomonanddionys/soldion2.pdf Spedicato, E., 2008a, The Flood of Deucalion. The Paris Conference on Quatavolution 2008, Université Pierre-et- Marie-Curie, Paris, France. http://www.2008-paris-conference.org/mapage13/index.html http://www.2008-paris-conference.org/mapage13/deucalione-testo-inglese-1-.pdf http://www.2008-paris-conference.org/mapage6/index.html Spedicato, E., 2008a, From Phaethon to Pachamacac Hypotheses and scientific approaches to human memory of great catastrophes. The Paris Conference on Quatavolution 2008, Université Pierre-et-Marie-Curie, Paris, France. at http://www.2008-paris-conference.org/mapage13/index.html http://www.2008-paris-conference.org/mapage13/phaethon-to-chapamacac.pdf http://www.2008-paris-conference.org/mapage6/index.html A 2007 Conference on Quatavolution paper of his, Geography and Numerics of Eden, Kharsag and Paradise: Sumerian and Enochian Sources Versus the Genesis Tale is quite revealing. http://www.2007-kandersteg.q-conferences.com/geographyandnume/index.html http://www.2007-kandersteg.q-conferences.com/geographyandnume/kharsag-emilio.pdf A similar catastrophist paper is: Barbiero, F., 2007, Changes of Rotation Axis of Earth after Asteroid/Cometary Impacts and Their Geological Effects. 2007 Conference on Quantavolution. Kandersteg, Switzerland. It can be found at: http://www.2007-kandersteg.q-conferences.com/changesofrotatio/index.html http://www.2007-kandersteg.q-conferences.com/changesofrotatio/confer-kandersteg-poles-ingl.pdf In the 2009 Conference on Quantavolution, Barbiero has a paper titled Space-Time as a Field of Mass - A Proposal for a New Model of Physical Reality at http://www.2009-kandersteg.q-conferences.com/space-timeasafie/index.html http://www.2009-kandersteg.q-conferences.com/space-timeasafie/spacetime-as-a-field-new.pdf I have absolutely no clue as to what Barbiero is talking about in his 2009 paper. From what I found in this paper, I very likely only need to start worrying if I did find something in this paper that I understood. However, Spedicato did get a paper published in a peer- reviewed book: It is: Spedicato, Emilio, 2008, Homer and Orosius: A Key to Explain Deucalion's Flood, Exodus and Other Tales, in S. A. Paipetis, ed., Science and Technology in Homeric Epics, vol. 6, pp. 369-374. History of Mechanism and Machine Science, Springer Netherlands. http://www.springerlink.com/content/p4q2u4w414866053/ http://interval.louisiana.edu/conferences/2007_Stenger/Slides_of_talks/homer-fetonte-lampos.pdf 2006 version of this paper can be found at: http://wwwdata.unibg.it/dati/bacheca/63/21693.pdf It seems like Spedicato is an excellent example of how far off the deep end that a scientist, in this case a mathematician, can go when they conduct research that is way outside their area of expertise. Another paper that also appears in Science and Technology in Homeric Epics is A Comet During the Trojan War? by Dr. Stavros Papamarinopoulos at either http://www.2008-paris-conference.org/mapage12/phaethon-in-springer-1-.pdf , http://www.2008-paris-conference.org/mapage12/index.html , or http://www.springerlink.com/content/q721u76w20r64431/ Yours, Paul H. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Magazine + Season's Greetings
Hi Geoff, all, Thanks for that Goeff, and greetings to you too. Just a thought that lazy, disorganized people like myself have not got around to subscribing to Meteorite magazine (and I know I should and want to) because the method of subscribing is not the most user friendly. If someone could set up an online method or host a paypal method I'm sure the subscriptions would rise dramatically. My thanks too go to all those who have made this meteorite year great...especially those who made my Ensisheim trip the best yet. First of all Bernd for initiating my link up with Peter Davidson, Zelimir for organizing all that and the generous help he gave us to get there, and Peter himself for the great company out there, on the journey and the tour round the stored collection at the museum in Edinburgh. Greetings to those others out at Ensisheim, Marc, Seigfreid, Karin, Peter, Svend, Anne and many more too numerous to mention...great times. Also greetings to Rob Elliot for putting up with my visit to his collection at home and hospitality just a week before most of it was auctioned...now that and the auction were exceptional events for me in 2009. See you all in Tucson most likely, and a happy new year, Graham, UK Notkin geok...@notkin.net wrote: Dear Listees: Season's greetings from Tucson. I know we'll be seeing many of you here in just over a month! Tucson 2010: The Year We Made Contact : ) That's one for the Arthur C. Clarke fans. As this year draws to a close, I'd like to thank Nancy and Larry Lebofsky (editors), Jessica Park (design), the editorial advisory board, the production team, and all the writers and photographers who have given us another fine year of Meteorite magazine. I recently received the most recent issue, and the tribute to the late, great O. Richard Norton is excellent. Yesterday, I realized that there are about twice as many subscribers to the M-List as there are subscribers to Meteorite. If you are not a magazine subscriber, may I ask why not? : ) Meteorite is a unique and outstanding publication and many or most of those who are involved in producing it play their part strictly for the love of it (i.e. they work on a pro-bono basis). Meteorite needs your support. Let's see it grow and become even better in 2010. You can subscribe via the website: http://meteoritemag.uark.edu And a few other people who deserve a special tip of the hat for giving selflessly to the meteorite community all year long: The IMCA Board of Directors Art Jones, founder of the Meteorite List Paul Harris and Jim Tobin of Meteorite Times Bob Falls and the Encyclopedia of Meteorites Michael Johnson and RFSPOD Thank you all. Respectfully, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org www.meteoritemen.com www.meteoriteblog.org __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - December 25, 2009
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[meteorite-list] Christmas Toys!
Thanks dad for the new tripod, reflectors, and tungsten carbide scale cube that allow me to take pictures like this: http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=NWA428g.jpg NWA 46.2g __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christmas Toys!
Hi Erik! Nice meteorite and cube. :) What kind of reflector(s) did you get? Any of them big light buckets? Best regards and clear skies, MikeG On 12/25/09, Erik Fisler erikfw...@msn.com wrote: Thanks dad for the new tripod, reflectors, and tungsten carbide scale cube that allow me to take pictures like this: http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=NWA428g.jpg NWA 46.2g __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- . Michael Gilmer (Florida, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com FaceBook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale Twitter - Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone eBay - http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/maypickle .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christmas Toys!
Great pic, Erik. Neat dad, too! Paul -- From: Erik Fisler erikfw...@msn.com Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 11:01 AM To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Christmas Toys! Thanks dad for the new tripod, reflectors, and tungsten carbide scale cube that allow me to take pictures like this: http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=NWA428g.jpg NWA 46.2g __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.427 / Virus Database: 270.14.111/2569 - Release Date: 12/16/09 19:52:00 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christmas Toys!
I got a promaster 5 in 1 reflector. It really makes a difference in adding extra light to kick up my meteorite photographs. No hot lamps yet Mike, but soon. My scale cube number is #0208 Thanks Paul! [Erik] Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:13:37 -0500 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Christmas Toys! From: meteoritem...@gmail.com To: erikfw...@msn.com CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hi Erik! Nice meteorite and cube. :) What kind of reflector(s) did you get? Any of them big light buckets? Best regards and clear skies, MikeG On 12/25/09, Erik Fisler wrote: Thanks dad for the new tripod, reflectors, and tungsten carbide scale cube that allow me to take pictures like this: http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=NWA428g.jpg NWA 46.2g __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- . Michael Gilmer (Florida, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com FaceBook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale Twitter - Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone eBay - http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/maypickle .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Help! Rust!
My father and I bought 600+/- grams of SAU 001 from Dima at the Tucson Show two years ago. Dima had left them in storage and they had rusted pretty good. How do I kill the rust on my 74.2g stone? http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=SAU001742g.jpg [Erik] __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Magazine Ssubscription
Hi Graham and list, You can subscribe via the website: http://meteoritemag.uark.edu The on-line subscription form allows MC, Visa and Discover credit cards. Are these not available in the UK? Larry - Original Message - From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Notkin geok...@notkin.net Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 2:56 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Magazine + Season's Greetings Hi Geoff, all, Just a thought that lazy, disorganized people like myself have not got around to subscribing to Meteorite magazine (and I know I should and want to) because the method of subscribing is not the most user friendly. If someone could set up an online method or host a paypal method I'm sure the subscriptions would rise dramatically. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Magazine Ssubscription
Sorry !! Looks like I made my first error today. I now note that you have to complete the form and then mail it. Larry - Original Message - From: Larry Twink Monrad larrytwinkmon...@comcast.net To: ensorama...@ntlworld.com; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Notkin geok...@notkin.net Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 3:06 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Magazine Ssubscription Hi Graham and list, You can subscribe via the website: http://meteoritemag.uark.edu The on-line subscription form allows MC, Visa and Discover credit cards. Are these not available in the UK? Larry - Original Message - From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Notkin geok...@notkin.net Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 2:56 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Magazine + Season's Greetings Hi Geoff, all, Just a thought that lazy, disorganized people like myself have not got around to subscribing to Meteorite magazine (and I know I should and want to) because the method of subscribing is not the most user friendly. If someone could set up an online method or host a paypal method I'm sure the subscriptions would rise dramatically. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] meteorite related videos you may have missed
Meteorite videos uploaded this week that you may have missed. Here is a cool video about list member (and friend) Laurence Garvie - ASU: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vje6CxHhhC8 also New Gold Basin video with list member Jason Snyder - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfZwZAEJvEo My latest: Rare Arizona Find - Cutting and Classification http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfjdhqbnoxU -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re super magnet
What's a good source for a super magnet? How much? Pete IMCA1733 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re super magnet
Hello: See Amazon vendor Emovendo. http://www.amazon.com/s/qid=1261792316/ref=sr_nr_seeall_1?ie=UTF8rs=keywor ds=emovendorh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Aemovendo%2Ci%3Agarden richard -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Pete Shugar Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 8:38 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Re super magnet What's a good source for a super magnet? How much? Pete IMCA1733 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re super magnet
Pete, I use 2 different places. KJ Magnetics: http://www.kjmagnetics.com/categories.asp?PARTNER=illinoismeteorites Then there is a guy on ebay that sells some nice ones at a pretty low price low price: http://cgi.ebay.com/N50-2x2x1-Neodymium-Rare-Earth-Magnet-250-LB-Pull_W0QQitemZ170421977287QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item27adf100c7 http://shop.ebay.com/magnet4less/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg=_trksid=p4340 The only reason I sometimes use KJ is because they have nice deals once in a while and you know for sure what you get if what you looked at. Ebay you can not always be sure they are the streangth they are said to be, such as N42, N50, N52, ect Hope that helps. Best, Joe Kerchner http://skyrockcafe.com - Original Message From: Pete Shugar pshu...@clearwire.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, December 25, 2009 7:37:54 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re super magnet What's a good source for a super magnet? How much? Pete IMCA1733 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Another frauderite in the credulous press
Photo on the site. It looks like maybe very old eroded barnacles or coral on it. http://www.mdcoastdispatch.com/article.php?cid=37id=7767 Strange Fiery Object Found On Beach By Shawn J. Soper, News Editor Originally published December 25, 2009 OCEAN CITY A mysterious, glowing hot object fell from the sky and landed on the beach in Ocean City last week, but it remains uncertain this week just what it is and from where it came. Early last Tuesday morning, an Ocean City cab driver was walking down the Boardwalk in the area of 22nd Street when he saw a bright glowing object fall from the sky from north to south and land on the beach roughly 20 yards away from him. Classic Cab Company driver Derrick Miller typically drops his taxi back off at company headquarters on 26th Street after his shift and walks down the Boardwalk to his home in the downtown area. Over the years, he has established a relationship with a resident wild fox that inhabits the area around 22nd Street in front of the Grand Hotel and often brings food to the animal. Early last Tuesday morning, Miller was following his normal routine when he saw a bright light flash across the sky from the north with the glowing object landing on the beach about 20 yards away. I was doing my usual thing and I was on the beach right in front of the Grand when I saw what looked at first like a shooting star, he said. It crashed into the sand about 20 yards away from me. When I checked it out, it had made a hole in the sand about a foot and a half wide and about six inches deep. Whatever it was, it was glowing red hot with sparks and fire coming from some of the holes in it. Miller said he examined the object closely, but could not handle it because of the heat. Instead, he buried it in the sand and marked the location with a stick. He returned about five or six hours later and recovered the object, which was still warm to the touch, but cool enough to pick up and handle. The unknown oblong object is about an inch-and-a-half long on its longest side and an inch or so wide. Its shape is irregular and appears to contain different types of material. It is covered with small holes around the outside that appear to be fissures of some sort. Weighed this week at the Classic Cab warehouse, it came it at exactly 20 grams. It is uncertain just what the object is and where it came from, but it fell from the sky during one of the most celebrated astronomical events in the northern hemisphere this year, lending credence to the working theory that is possibly a meteorite or other kind of space debris. According to NASA officials, the Geminid meteor shower arched its way across the northern hemisphere sky from Dec. 6-18, providing one of the most visible astronomical events of the year. According to NASA, the Geminid meteor shower reached its peak on Dec. 13-14, which puts last weeks discovery on the beach in Ocean City right in the window of the most activity in the area. While he could not be reached for comment or possible identification of the object, Bill Cooke of NASAs Meteoroid Environment Office confirmed the Geminid meteor shower provided fireworks over the mid-Atlantic area last week. Its the Geminid meteor shower and it should have peaked on Dec. 13th and 14th under ideal viewing conditions, he said. The Geminids are strong and getting stronger each year. Miller said in the days before and after his discovery of the object on the beach, he noticed an increase in the number of shooting stars observed in the area, particularly on the beach at night or in darker areas such as Ocean Pines while he was driving his cab. He also said many of his fares had pointed out the phenomenon. According to NASA, Geminids are pieces of debris from a strange object known as 3200 Phaeton. Long thought to be an asteroid, Phaeton is now classified as an extinct comet. According to NASA, it is basically the rocky skeleton of a comet that lost its ice after too many close encounters with the sun, and Earth runs into a stream of debris from 3200 Phaeton every year in mid-December, causing meteors to fly from the constellation Gemini. Of course, it remains uncertain just what the object Miller discovered on the beach last week is, but the presence of the Geminid meteor shower during the time it was found suggests it could be an object from outer space, possibly a meteorite. A meteorite is defined by NASA as a natural object originating in outer space that survives a trip through the Earths atmosphere and lands on the ground. Most meteorites come from small astronomical objects called meteoroids, but they are sometimes produced by impacts of asteroids. According to NASA, meteorites that are recovered after being observed as they transited through the atmosphere or impacted the Earth are called falls. All other meteorites are known as finds. According to NASA, most meteoroids disintegrate when entering the Earths atmosphere. However, an estimated 500
