Re: [meteorite-list] Strewnfield or Strewn Field?

2010-01-16 Thread lebofsky
Hi Jeff:

This was just the conversation that was had several years ago (almost to
the day). It was at the Tucson Gem and Mineral Show (2006?; was it that
long ago?) and I (with Nancy?) was having this very discussion with Anne
Black and Geoff Notkin in their salesroom (one word) as to how to spell
strewfield (or strewn field) since we were getting articles with both
spellings. Geoff gave us the sage advice: pick one and use it! We did and
we do--an editorial decision that we have stuck to since then. So, Jeff,
since we do it a magazine (where the word is used a lot) we have chosen
strewnfield over strewn field (even if Microsoft Word does not like it).

Larry

Co-editor, Meteorite magazine

 I would conjecture that this term must have originated with the phrase
 meteorite-strewn field, i.e. a field strewn with meteorites. If you
 search for the term rock-strewn in publications, it virtually always
 appears with the hyphen when used as an adjective, which I believe is
 grammatically correct. For some reason, meteoriticists in the 1940s, who
 seems to have brought the phrase into common usage, didn't like the
 hyphen, and I'm not sure anybody ever actually used meteorite-strewn
 field (or tektite-strewn field) in a publication.  Instead, you see
 it without the hyphen (still a common form, meteorite strewn field),
 and in the abbreviated forms without the word meteorite at all:
 strewn-field, strewn field, and strewnfield. But the word
 meteorite (or, sometimes, tektite) is always implied; I don't think you
 ever see mention of pumice strewnfields or hailstone strewnfields, etc.

 It seems to me that a new word was then born, independent of the
 original phrase.  I think the hyphenated form can clearly be discarded
 as a remnant of the original phrase, incorrectly hyphenated.  The other
 two forms are really both new coinages, and I think one might argue that
 either could be correct, if there is such a thing as correct.  Both
 are in common use now.  If I were editing a publication, I would
 probably make the stylistic choice of adopting the single-word version,
 strewnfield.

 Jeff

 On 2010-01-15 8:57 PM, Frank Cressy wrote:
 Hello all,

 I think it would be correct to use strewnfield...one word.

 When someone talks about a corn field, two words are used.  Another way
 to say this is : field of corn.

 If strewn field is the correct, would one also be correct in saying
 field of strewn?  I don't think that works.

 So I think the correct usage should be strewnfield like Martin used to
 use in his columns.

 Just my 2 cents,

 Frank




 
 From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edulebof...@lpl.arizona.edu
 To: Meteorites USAe...@meteoritesusa.com
 Cc: Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 7:52:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Strewnfield or Strewn Field?

 Hi Eric:

 For about a year, this was a topic for the editors of Meteorite
 magazine.
 We decided to be consistent with strewnfield since we had the column
 From
 the Strewnfields by Martin Horejsi at the time (miss your articles in
 the
 magazine, Martin).

 Larry


 Hi Listees,

 Thanks to you all who've written in with kind words and comments on my
 new article a few days back titled What is a Meteorite Strewnfield? I
 really appreciate your compliments. I hope you all enjoyed it. If you
 haven't read it yet please do so. It's a good informative read, and
 even
 has some pretty pictures too. ;)

 The reason for this email is to ask about proper use of the word(s)
 strewnfield. While researching the article I noticed that the numerous
 websites on the internet had 2 ways of spelling the it. Should it be
 Strewnfield one word... or Strewn Field two seperate words?

 Every time I type in strewnfield in a search it comes up with Did you
 mean? strewn field with a space. I've seen it described as Strewn
 field on Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strewn_field Then in
 the paragraph just below it reads strewnfield all one word again. To
 make matters more confusing Encyclopedia Britannica has the word with a
 hyphen i.e; strewn-field.
 http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/569002/strewn-field Google
 shows 67,500 results for the phrase strewn field and the same amount
 for strewn-field with a hyphen, meaning they don't recognize the
 hyphen. Google also shows 23,700 results for the single word
 strewnfield. Not to mention the many articles and papers all over the
 internet with ALL 3 ways of usage of the word.

 So which is it? or does it really matter?

 Regards,
 Eric Wichman
 Meteorites USA
 www.meteoritesusa.com







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Re: [meteorite-list] Strewnfield or Strewn Field?

2010-01-16 Thread Martin Altmann
Hello Jeff,

and I think one might argue that either could be correct,

In languages always the speakers decide, what is correct. Usage rules.

Hehe, Google as a strong linguistic tool - let's check:

strewn field  -  20,900 hits

strewnfield   -  22,800 hits

Therefore I'd say both forms are in use and correct.

I don't know, how productive that word building process is, cause I haven't
clues about English language, maybe Bernd can help better.

airfield
backfield
battlefield
coalfield
cornfield
downfield
goldfield
grainfield
hayfield
infield
midfield
minefield
oilfield
outfield
snowfield
subfield
upfield
Lancefield, Springfield  Garfield



Martin,
from the Streufeld. 
(hence using strewnfield)




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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Jeff
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Gesendet: Samstag, 16. Januar 2010 05:14
An: Meteorite-list
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Strewnfield or Strewn Field?

I would conjecture that this term must have originated with the phrase 
meteorite-strewn field, i.e. a field strewn with meteorites. If you 
search for the term rock-strewn in publications, it virtually always 
appears with the hyphen when used as an adjective, which I believe is 
grammatically correct. For some reason, meteoriticists in the 1940s, who 
seems to have brought the phrase into common usage, didn't like the 
hyphen, and I'm not sure anybody ever actually used meteorite-strewn 
field (or tektite-strewn field) in a publication.  Instead, you see 
it without the hyphen (still a common form, meteorite strewn field), 
and in the abbreviated forms without the word meteorite at all: 
strewn-field, strewn field, and strewnfield. But the word 
meteorite (or, sometimes, tektite) is always implied; I don't think you 
ever see mention of pumice strewnfields or hailstone strewnfields, etc.

It seems to me that a new word was then born, independent of the 
original phrase.  I think the hyphenated form can clearly be discarded 
as a remnant of the original phrase, incorrectly hyphenated.  The other 
two forms are really both new coinages, and I think one might argue that 
either could be correct, if there is such a thing as correct.  Both 
are in common use now.  If I were editing a publication, I would 
probably make the stylistic choice of adopting the single-word version, 
strewnfield.

Jeff



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Re: [meteorite-list] Strewnfield or Strewn Field?

2010-01-16 Thread Kelly Beatty
Jeff...

 If I were editing a publication, I would probably 
 make the stylistic choice of adopting the single-word version, strewnfield.


I'm with you. strewnfield can mean only one thing, and if I ever came across
strewn field in text I would wonder what (besides meteorites) was strewn on
that particular field - cow patties, perhaps?

FWIW, here's an example from my 35 years of watching the English language
evolve in popular writing and publications. years ago Sky  Telescope, which
maintains a long list of style conventions, referred to a site on the World
Wide Web as a Web site. then it became Website and finally website.
that's how many such terms evolve. and, yes, ST uses strewnfield.


clear skies,
Kelly


J. Kelly Beatty
Senior Contributing Editor
SKY  TELESCOPE
617-416-9991
SkyandTelescope.com eorite-list

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Re: [meteorite-list] Strewnfield or Strewn Field?

2010-01-16 Thread Chris Peterson

In languages always the speakers decide, what is correct. Usage rules.


Except if France and parts of Canada. They have an organization that comes 
in the middle of the night and takes you away for torture and re-education 
if you dare use a word without official sanction! g


Chris

*
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Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com


- Original Message - 
From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de

To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 5:41 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Strewnfield or Strewn Field?


Hello Jeff,


and I think one might argue that either could be correct,


In languages always the speakers decide, what is correct. Usage rules.

Hehe, Google as a strong linguistic tool - let's check:

strewn field  -  20,900 hits

strewnfield   -  22,800 hits

Therefore I'd say both forms are in use and correct.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Strewnfield or Strewn Field?

2010-01-16 Thread Dark Matter
Hi All,

If strewnfield is not one word (as it should be), then it will be
soon. Especially with our help.

But in today's vernacular, I suspect it is more like STRNFLD as in:

RUNTS! IANAL BUT CYA B4 U SRCH STRNFLD. WDYT?

Oh, and thanks for referencing my column Larry and Frank. I would love
to have the time again to put into the Strewnfields column again, but
it will be a while. I am, however, a new columnist for the journal The
Science Teacher (NSTA.org) with an installment titled Science 2.0.

In the mean time my monthly Accretion Desk is as much meteorite
writing as I have time for. Got to keep this fun, right?

B4N,

Martin




On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Frank Cressy fcre...@prodigy.net wrote:
 Hello all,

 I think it would be correct to use strewnfield...one word.

 When someone talks about a corn field, two words are used.  Another way to 
 say this is : field of corn.

 If strewn field is the correct, would one also be correct in saying field 
 of strewn?  I don't think that works.

 So I think the correct usage should be strewnfield like Martin used to use 
 in his columns.

 Just my 2 cents,

 Frank




 
 From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu
 To: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com
 Cc: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 7:52:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Strewnfield or Strewn Field?

 Hi Eric:

 For about a year, this was a topic for the editors of Meteorite magazine.
 We decided to be consistent with strewnfield since we had the column From
 the Strewnfields by Martin Horejsi at the time (miss your articles in the
 magazine, Martin).

 Larry

 Hi Listees,

 Thanks to you all who've written in with kind words and comments on my
 new article a few days back titled What is a Meteorite Strewnfield? I
 really appreciate your compliments. I hope you all enjoyed it. If you
 haven't read it yet please do so. It's a good informative read, and even
 has some pretty pictures too. ;)

 The reason for this email is to ask about proper use of the word(s)
 strewnfield. While researching the article I noticed that the numerous
 websites on the internet had 2 ways of spelling the it. Should it be
 Strewnfield one word... or Strewn Field two seperate words?

 Every time I type in strewnfield in a search it comes up with Did you
 mean? strewn field with a space. I've seen it described as Strewn
 field on Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strewn_field Then in
 the paragraph just below it reads strewnfield all one word again. To
 make matters more confusing Encyclopedia Britannica has the word with a
 hyphen i.e; strewn-field.
 http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/569002/strewn-field Google
 shows 67,500 results for the phrase strewn field and the same amount
 for strewn-field with a hyphen, meaning they don't recognize the
 hyphen. Google also shows 23,700 results for the single word
 strewnfield. Not to mention the many articles and papers all over the
 internet with ALL 3 ways of usage of the word.

 So which is it? or does it really matter?

 Regards,
 Eric Wichman
 Meteorites USA
 www.meteoritesusa.com







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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Men on Discovery Tonight, New Website, News, Tucson, etc.

2010-01-16 Thread Notkin

Dear Listees:

Greetings all. Steve and I are delighted to announce that Discovery  
Channel will be showing a special edition of the Meteorite Men  
pilot, tonight only at 10 pm Eastern, with a repeat at 1 am. Times  
vary in local markets, so please check your cable listings. I know  
many of you do not get Science Channel -- time to upgrade your cable  
package! : ) -- so this is a chance to catch the pilot on one of the  
world's top networks. It is a special edition that will feature a  
short preview of the new series which premieres this coming Wednesday.


Show time details:

http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-schedules/series.html?paid=1.14361.126184.36729.1

Having our parent network air the show is a big deal for us, so please  
tune in if you can. For our friends overseas, I am sorry to say we  
still only have US broadcast dates. We will go international at some  
point.



In other news, Science Channel unveiled their new Meteorite Men  
website on Thursday. Our compliments to Science and Discovery's  
extremely talented design and photography team:


http://science.discovery.com

-- and --

http://science.discovery.com/tv/meteorite-men

The new site includes an episode guide, illustrated location guide,  
show times, loads of video clips, the new promo trailers, an on- 
location photo gallery and even an Asteroid, Comet or Meteor? quiz,  
so you can all have fun with that  : )


And for those of you who have been wondering where we actually went  
for the six new episodes, you can now find out all about it.



In other news: Steve and I just returned from Pasadena, CA where --  
along with Science Channel President Debbie Myers and Meteorite Men  
Executive Producer Eric Schotz -- we presented the new series to a  
panel of over 100 international journalists and television critics. It  
was a pretty exciting day and I invite you to take a look at some  
event photos, courtesy of Getty Images:


http://topics.npr.org/photo/0fuI4Mmf0y0eK

Steve and I also attended Discovery Channel's 25th Anniversary party  
and had the opportunity to meet many of our network colleagues. It was  
also the only party I've ever been to that had live baby giraffes as  
guests, courtesy of Animal Planet. Discovery really knows how to throw  
a party!


Both the Tucson show and the series premiere are just around the  
corner. I am very pleased to say that we have arranged evening  
screening parties for the Meteorite Men new episode premieres on  
January 27, February 3, and February 10. We will be holding the  
parties at a very cool downtown venue, close the gem show hotels.  
Admission is free, all are welcome, and good food and drinks are  
available for purchase. And wait 'til you see the giant widescreen TV!  
Steve and I will be present at all three screenings, and we  
particularly encourage first-time visitors to the gem show to join us.  
We look forward to seeing old friends and making new ones.


I'll post exact details closer to the gem show.


And you can learn more at:

http://www.facebook.com/meteoritemen

-- and --

http://twitter.com/meteoritemen


Thanks for reading and all the best from Tucson!


Geoff N.

www.aerolite.org
http://science.discovery.com/tv/meteorite-men/
www.meteoritemen.com

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Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger

2010-01-16 Thread Rob McCafferty
I am deeply saddened by the death of Christian Anger. 
I had dealings with him several times and donated mineral samples to him on a 
couple of occasions and found him to be a kind and generous man.
My fondest regards go to his family at this time.

Rob McCafferty


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger

2010-01-16 Thread Mark Bowling
That is very sad news.  I expected to meet him at one of the shows someday.  He 
always went beyond the call of duty when I purchased something from him  he 
was always helpful.  My thoughts and prayers are with his family.  Best wishes 
to you all - safe travels as you come to Tucson!

Mark Bowling


- Original Message 
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Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 3:56:42 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger



Hello everybody,

I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news.
For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite 
collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and 
lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little 
girls.
And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much 
happier times.

Anne M. Black
_http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) 
_impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) 
Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
_http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) 

Hello Anne,

today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend 
Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died.

I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a 
friend.
Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter.
We had also other private contact and were real friends.

At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had 
so many private problems in his mind.
Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to 
come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in 
Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back 
into the car sunday afternoon.
This was the last time I saw him.

True friendship never ends..

Hanno Strufe

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men on Discovery Tonight...

2010-01-16 Thread Carl 's


Hey, I took the quiz and managed to get all 10 correct the first time out.:D A 
couple was sort of tricky, I thought.

Carl

  
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[meteorite-list] Refraction and cutting solvents

2010-01-16 Thread Paul G. Spears

Hi, Listees:
Has anyone found a negative effect on slices or thin sections caused by 
using a lapidary cutting solvent, distilled water, alcohol, mineral oil, or 
any other coolant in the cutting and polishing of meteorites, assuming 
prudent care is exercised by cleaning and drying the slices afterward?  Do 
any of them cause a change in the refraction of light in thin sections?


Your comments and suggestions will be appreciated as learning by trial and 
error is not my favorite way to get an education!  The tuition is way too 
high!

Regards to all,
Paul G. Spears
IMCA #3272



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Re: [meteorite-list] Refraction and cutting solvents

2010-01-16 Thread starsandscopes


Hi Paul,  I am not aware of any change to  optical properties of material 
due to lubricants but with the more advanced  testing watch out.

I had some material that I polished with a diamond  slurry to 1/4 micron.  
I sent some to a respected researcher that I  occasionally consult  (he 
helps me out a lot!).  The sample was  analyzed on a Raman Spectrometer and 
found to contain carbon.  As this  material was (kind of) unique and produced 
an 
odor when cutting or polishing, I  naturally figured it was carbonaceous.  
I circulated that information and  wound up quite embarrassed when it turned 
out to be an OC.  It appears the  diamond slurry was an oil base that 
changed the spectrometer signature.

I  think the proper solvent wash would of prevent this but I didn't think 
of it so  I never washed the sample or told my friend what I had used in the 
sample  preparation.

Tom Phillips

In a message dated 1/16/2010 2:15:02  P.M. Mountain Standard Time, 
pgspe...@cox.net writes:
Hi, Listees:
Has  anyone found a negative effect on slices or thin sections caused by 
using a  lapidary cutting solvent, distilled water, alcohol, mineral oil, 
or 
any  other coolant in the cutting and polishing of meteorites, assuming 
prudent  care is exercised by cleaning and drying the slices afterward?  Do 
any  of them cause a change in the refraction of light in thin sections?

Your  comments and suggestions will be appreciated as learning by trial and 
error  is not my favorite way to get an education!  The tuition is way too  
high!
Regards to all,
Paul G. Spears
IMCA  #3272



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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men on Discovery Tonight, New Website, News, Tucson, etc.

2010-01-16 Thread Richard Kowalski
--- On Sat, 1/16/10, Notkin geok...@notkin.net wrote:

 Greetings all. Steve and I are delighted to announce that
 Discovery Channel will be showing a special edition of the
 Meteorite Men pilot, tonight only at 10 pm Eastern, with a
 repeat at 1 am. 



Geoff,

by special edition, do you mean just that the original pilot is airing on 
Discovery or that this is a different cut of the pilot?

Thanks


--
Richard Kowalski
http://fullmoonphotography.net
IMCA #1081



  
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[meteorite-list] An offer for meteorite microimaging to dealers (No thin section required)

2010-01-16 Thread starsandscopes



Hi list,  For the last couple  years I have been working nearly exclusively 
on thin sections in cross polarized  light.  This was due, only partly, to 
my failure to come up with a  satisfactory digital photo adapter on my 
Neophot but most significantly to Jeff  Hodges fantastic thin section library.  
He has very generously loaned me  thin sections for years.

I am now back on track with the Neophot (It is a  large incident 
(reflected) light inverted microscope).  In fact, I just  purchased another 
one.  It 
has on it some very special parts such as a  polarized light illuminator with 
a sub parallel compensator, Bertrand lens and  micro polarizing 
adjustments.  I have looked for years for these  parts.  They had seemed to be 
made out 
of pure unobtaineum. 

For an  example of the type of images I will be producing please look at my 
latest post  to my micrograph gallery on JaH 073.  Unlike cross polarized 
transmitted  light thin section images, these images are true color.  As I 
like to say  Just what it looks like way up  close.

http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/articles/jah_073/

Please  keep in mind, I am not vested in my JaH 073 observations.  They are 
just a  guess.  I am open to other interpretations of the images.  It is  
mostly just me having fun with micrographs.

I am looking for interesting  classified material to image.  (I have boxes 
of unclassified NWA so I don't  need that kind of stuff)  I do not need a 
thin section but a sample of  roughly 1 gram or larger that I am free to 
polish.  I finish with a 1/4  micron diamond slurry to get clear shots at 
magnifications up to 1600 X.  I  don't want to do any cutting.  Things happen 
when 
cutting.  Things  like falling apart material and unaccounted for missing 
crumbs!  I am just  not set up for that.  

I will safely return the sample with a CD of  images that you and I are 
free to use.  You can use the images to promote  your material, heck, you can 
make Tee shirts and calendars if you like.  In  fact, I want you to use 
them!!!  All I ask is that my name is attached to  all products or postings,  
and 
that I am free to use or pass along the  images as well.  The operative 
word is return, so I am looking for the  GOOD STUFF.

I am shooting at a resolution of 12 mp so they should be up  to any 
application you might have in mind.

Ideally, I would also like to  partner in an article where I provide the 
images and you do the rest!   Basically, you write an article and I will give 
you some additional images to  add to the mix.  Even if we produce an 
article and it is not placed you  could use it in your promotion of the 
material 
for sale and I will post it to my  gallery.

Please email me with any ideas.   Tom Phillips  

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[meteorite-list] Allende and a new mineral called Tistarite......

2010-01-16 Thread Shawn Alan
Hello List,



A couple weeks ago I came across a letter on the internet published in the 
American Mineralogist, Vol 94, pages 841-844, 2009 (here is a link to the 
letter http://www.its.caltech.edu/~chima/publications/2009_AM_tistarite.pdf ) 
and the topic was about a new mineral found in Allende, called Tistarite.

 

Last month I purchased an Allende meteorite and since then been fascinated by 
the thought that Allende is older then dirt, to be more exacted, 4.57 billion 
years old. And to top it off, Allende has traces of nanodiamonds from near by 
supernovas, making the fine-grain microscopic particles older then our solar 
system.

 

Now in 2009 from American Mineralogist I read that scientists have found a new 
mineral only present in Allende meteorite, which is called Tistarite. My 
question is how will this new mineral impact Allende meteorite in the science 
and meteorite communities and what significance will it have on future 
discoveries for new minerals?

 

Thank you
Shawn Alan
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[meteorite-list] For Sale, 66-gram Etched Gibeon and 300 gram Campo Del Cielo Iron Meteorites

2010-01-16 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Folks!

I have large 300-gram Campo del Cielo iron meteorite available.  It
comes with a metal display label and a magnetic display stand.  I am
offering this meteorite to my mailing list customers for only $80
shipped (US only - Canada and Overseas will be extra).  I have photos
available upon request.

Note - my website is experiencing problems right now and some sections
of my website are not working currently.  So please respond to me vial
email.

I also have a beautiful 66-gram etched Gibeon iron that is shaped like
a dagger or obelisk.  It has one natural side and the other sides are
brilliantly etched.  The piece stands on one end vertically and
displays in several other positions.  This piece is striking and the
etch job is top quality.  The price is only $100 shipped - under the
going market rate for etched Gibeon, less yet a piece of this high
quality.  I have photos available upon request.

Lastly - I received a new shipment of Fulgurites, which are now listed
in the store.  In the coming week I will be getting micromounts of Ash
Creek (Texas), Murchison, and Park Forest.  Keep an eye on my Brand
New! page of my website in the coming days.

Thanks for looking and clear skies!

MikeG
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men on Discovery Tonight, New Website, News, Tucson, etc.

2010-01-16 Thread Notkin

Richard Posted:

by special edition, do you mean just that the original pilot is  
airing on Discovery or that this is a different cut of the pilot?



Dear Richard:

Our executive producer at Science advised us that the version of the  
pilot airing tonight will be largely the same as the original, but  
will include a short trailer for the new series. I expect that to be a  
composite of scenes from the upcoming episodes.


We are excited by this broadcast because -- as you know -- Discovery  
is one of the larger cable networks in the world, and so this special  
airing will hopefully introduce meteorite science and meteorite  
collecting to a much larger audience.


At least we hope so!  : )


See you at the gem show, cheers,

Geoff

www.aerolite.org
http://science.discovery.com/tv/meteorite-men/
www.meteoritemen.com
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[meteorite-list] AD - Tucson is in 2 weeks!!!

2010-01-16 Thread impactika


Hello List members,

In 2 weeks the Tucson Show will be open for business.
Only 2 weeks, and there is still so much to do. So much to pack.
 
Here are a few highlights of what I will bring with me:
 
First and foremost:  Almahata Sitta, also known as Asteroid 2008 TC3, 
discovered by Richard Kowalski (thank you Richard!) and the Catalina Sky 
Survey, 
found in Sudan by Siegfried Haberer (thank you Siegfried!), and now in 
Exclusivity in my room in the InnSuites. It has been classified as a ureilite, 
but there is much more to it than that, the study continues, now it is being 
called extraordinary by the experts and compared to Kaidun!. 
Just take a look at the Abstract:  _http://www.impactika.com/ASitta.pdf_ 
(http://www.impactika.com/ASitta.pdf) 

Also Somervell County, the only pallasite ever found in Texas, newly 
cleaned and stabilized. A very special meteorite from the Monnig Collection. 
 
A huge selection of historical, named meteorites. I call them Meteorites 
with a pedigree! 
 
And the largest collection of thin-sections in the world!  All of ET's 
(thank you ET) and mine.
 
And I am probably forgetting a lot of other great pieces!
 
See you all very soon in room 230 in the InnSuites (now Hotel Tucson City 
Center) in Tucson.
And if you can't wait, you can always contact me by email.
Thanks.

Anne M. Black
http://www.impactika.com/
impact...@aol.com
Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
http://www.imca.cc/
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Re: [meteorite-list] Allende and a new mineral called Tistarite......

2010-01-16 Thread Dark Matter
Hi Shawn,

I doubt it will change the value of Allende, but it is one of the
cooler new names for a discovery:

The mineral is named after the composition Ti and the word star,
implying that this new refractory mineral is among the first solids
formed in the solar system.

-Martin


On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hello List,



 A couple weeks ago I came across a letter on the internet published in the 
 American Mineralogist, Vol 94, pages 841-844, 2009 (here is a link to the 
 letter http://www.its.caltech.edu/~chima/publications/2009_AM_tistarite.pdf ) 
 and the topic was about a new mineral found in Allende, called Tistarite.



 Last month I purchased an Allende meteorite and since then been fascinated by 
 the thought that Allende is older then dirt, to be more exacted, 4.57 billion 
 years old. And to top it off, Allende has traces of nanodiamonds from near by 
 supernovas, making the fine-grain microscopic particles older then our solar 
 system.



 Now in 2009 from American Mineralogist I read that scientists have found a 
 new mineral only present in Allende meteorite, which is called Tistarite. My 
 question is how will this new mineral impact Allende meteorite in the science 
 and meteorite communities and what significance will it have on future 
 discoveries for new minerals?



 Thank you
 Shawn Alan
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Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger

2010-01-16 Thread Melanie Matthews
Never heard of him until he was mentioned about his death here on the list... 
sounded like a great guy. My condolences to his family and closest friends.. 
RIP Christian. 

I thought I'd share this - back in October I visited my uncle (very nice sweet 
guy) in the nursing home, and showed him some of my meteorites. He was somewhat 
interested in space, and was very pleased and facinated as he held and looked 
at them. That was the last time I saw hims.. He passed away peacefully sometime 
in December. 

 ---
Melanie
IMCA: 2975
eBay: metmel2775
Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09

Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what 
you're gonna get!



- Original Message 
From: Rob McCafferty rob_mccaffe...@yahoo.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sat, January 16, 2010 10:41:49 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger

I am deeply saddened by the death of Christian Anger. 
I had dealings with him several times and donated mineral samples to him on a 
couple of occasions and found him to be a kind and generous man.
My fondest regards go to his family at this time.

Rob McCafferty


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] An offer for meteorite microimaging to dealers (Nothin section required)

2010-01-16 Thread Jerry Flaherty

DOUBLE WOW Tom,
I never thought you'd be able to top your thin section collection but I'm 
wrong again

Jerry

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From: starsandsco...@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 4:56 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] An offer for meteorite microimaging to dealers 
(Nothin section required)






Hi list,  For the last couple  years I have been working nearly 
exclusively

on thin sections in cross polarized  light.  This was due, only partly, to
my failure to come up with a  satisfactory digital photo adapter on my
Neophot but most significantly to Jeff  Hodges fantastic thin section 
library.

He has very generously loaned me  thin sections for years.

I am now back on track with the Neophot (It is a  large incident
(reflected) light inverted microscope).  In fact, I just  purchased 
another one.  It
has on it some very special parts such as a  polarized light illuminator 
with

a sub parallel compensator, Bertrand lens and  micro polarizing
adjustments.  I have looked for years for these  parts.  They had seemed 
to be made out

of pure unobtaineum.

For an  example of the type of images I will be producing please look at 
my

latest post  to my micrograph gallery on JaH 073.  Unlike cross polarized
transmitted  light thin section images, these images are true color.  As I
like to say  Just what it looks like way up  close.

http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/articles/jah_073/

Please  keep in mind, I am not vested in my JaH 073 observations.  They 
are

just a  guess.  I am open to other interpretations of the images.  It is
mostly just me having fun with micrographs.

I am looking for interesting  classified material to image.  (I have boxes
of unclassified NWA so I don't  need that kind of stuff)  I do not need a
thin section but a sample of  roughly 1 gram or larger that I am free to
polish.  I finish with a 1/4  micron diamond slurry to get clear shots at
magnifications up to 1600 X.  I  don't want to do any cutting.  Things 
happen when

cutting.  Things  like falling apart material and unaccounted for missing
crumbs!  I am just  not set up for that.

I will safely return the sample with a CD of  images that you and I are
free to use.  You can use the images to promote  your material, heck, you 
can

make Tee shirts and calendars if you like.  In  fact, I want you to use
them!!!  All I ask is that my name is attached to  all products or 
postings,  and

that I am free to use or pass along the  images as well.  The operative
word is return, so I am looking for the  GOOD STUFF.

I am shooting at a resolution of 12 mp so they should be up  to any
application you might have in mind.

Ideally, I would also like to  partner in an article where I provide the
images and you do the rest!   Basically, you write an article and I will 
give

you some additional images to  add to the mix.  Even if we produce an
article and it is not placed you  could use it in your promotion of the 
material

for sale and I will post it to my  gallery.

Please email me with any ideas.   Tom Phillips

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[meteorite-list] Tucson Group Meteorite Hunt?

2010-01-16 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi all,

I have received 6-10 emails in the last week (from list members and
others) asking if I would host a group hunt during the Tucson show.
I'm not sure If I can since during this time I will be rushed - as
most of us will be. However, I just may have time if it were to happen
on Feb 3rd or 4th.

So here's your chance. If you have always wanted to find a meteorite
but didn't know how or where, please contact me. I'll need to know
where you would like to hunt (Arizona strewnfields/Dry lakes etc...)
and if the above dates will work.

Please don't hesitate to email me as I will need to make a decision
very soon. It doesn't matter If you are a new or old list member or
whether we have even met. If you want to join in, speak now. There are
not many chances to learn from an experienced hunter. The more people
that contact me the more likely I will put aside time to do this.

So contact me and lets see if we can do this!

Rock On!

Ruben Garcia

Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net
Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/
Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u
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[meteorite-list] Save those pennies, guys! The ultimate space collectable!

2010-01-16 Thread Darren Garrison
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gbvF6Yz_frq7aG8mvqx11MxbmotQ
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[meteorite-list] Happy Birthday H. H. Nininger

2010-01-16 Thread Arizona Keith

Hello List

I like to post a Happy Birthday to Harvey Harlow Nininger, Born 1-17-1887, 
The Father of Meteorite Hunting and the first true Meteorite Man.


Hope to see everyone that come to the Tucson show this year, and like last 
year I'll be giving away Ice Cream at this year show and hope to take and 
post more photos than last year.


My best to all.
Keith
Chandler, AZ


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