Re: [meteorite-list] The Perils of Type Collecting - A Guide

2010-03-04 Thread John.L.Cabassi
G'Day Mike
You said " So, is there a C3?"   Well, if I have a couple of fine
scotches, I see 3  :o}  All jokes aside,  well done! Keep up the good
work.

Cheers
John

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Hi Zelimir and List!

Now that I look closely (on David Weir's site), I see that the CM3 class
is tenative and is probably not official nomenclature yet.  The
following specimens are listed as tenative CM3 :

Acfer 094, WIS 91600, B-7904,and Paris.

About Tagish Lake and the C2 group (which I overlooked the C2, but
initially had Tagish in the wrong class as C-ung, which I now notice is
C2-ung).  So, is there a C3?

Best regards,

MikeG

Revised List -

---
Carbonaceous Chondrites :

CI (Ivuna)
CM1 (Mighei)
CM2 (subdivided into CM2.0 to CM2.6)
CM3
CO3 (Ornans) (subdivided into CO3.03 to CO3.7)
CV (Vigarano) (also CV2 and CV3)
CK (Karoonda) (CK4, CK5, CK6)
CR (Renazzo) (CR1, CR2, CR3)
CB (Bencubbin)
CH
CR ungrouped
C ungrouped
C2 ungrouped (Tagish Lake)
C4 ungrouped


Ordinary Chondrites :

Rumuruti R3 (subdivided into R3.5-6 to R3.9)
R4
R5
R6

LL (subdivided into LL3.0 to LL3.9)
LL4
LL5
LL5/6
LL6
LL6/7
LL7
LL impact melt

LL transitional (L/LL3 to L/LL6)
L (subdivided into L3.0 to L3.9)
L4
L5
L6
L6/7
L7
L impact melt

H/L transitional (H/L3 to H/L6 IMB, H/L3.6 to H/L3-4)
H (subdivided into H3.0 to H3.9)
H4
H5
H6
H7
H impact melt

ungrouped ordinary chondrites


Enstatite Chondrites :

EL (EL3 to EL7)
EL impact melt
EH/L
EH (EH3 to EH7)
EH impact melt
ungrouped enstatite chondrites

K (Kakangari)

Meta-chondrites (M-CV, M-CR, M-H, M-LL)


Primitive Chondrites :

Acapulcoite
Lodranite
Winonaites
ungrouped primitive chondrites


Achondrites :

Howardite (subdivided into fragmental breccia and regolith breccia)
Eucrite (monomict and polymict with each having subclasses) Diogenite
(monomict and polymict) Olivine Diogenite Dunite Ureilite (monomict and
polymict)


Martian achondrites :

Shergottite
Pyroxene-phyric basaltic shergottite
Olivine-phyric basaltic shergottite Olivine-orthopyroxene-phyric
basaltic shergottite Pyroxene-peridotitic (Wehrlitic) shergottite
Lherzolitic shergottite Diabasic shergottite

Nakhlite
Chassignite
Orthopyroxenite (ALH 84001)


Lunar Achondrites :

Feldspathic breccias
Regolith breccia
Fragmental breccia
Impact melt breccia
Granulitic breccia
Mafic-rich
Thorium-rich
KREEP-rich

Mingled Breccia
Mare Basalt


Other Achondrites :

Angrites (Plutonic and Basaltic)
Brachinite
Aubrite
ungrouped achondrites (Ibitira, Pasamonte, etc)


Stony-Irons :

Mesosiderites (1A,1B,2A,2B,2C,3A,3B,4A,4B)
ungrouped mesosiderites

Pallasites (Main Group, Eagle Station group, Pyroxene group)
Pallasite-am (anomalous, PMG-am, PMG-as) ungrouped pallasites


Iron meteorites :

Note, iron meteorites are a can of worms. I will only focus on the main
chemical groups, and not the various grouplets and sub-types of each
main chemical group. Also note that many of these types include
silicated varities. Listing all of the known sub-types of irons would
require a LONG list resembling a flow-chart.

IAB
IC
IIAB
IIC
IID
IIE
IIF
IIG
IIIAB
IIIE
IIIF
IVA
IVB
ungrouped irons

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On 3/4/10, zelimir.gabel...@uha.fr  wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Can you tell me the name of the CM3 ?
>
> Btw: a very complete list of types (& subtypes) can also be found in 
> both the Met. Bull. database or at the end of the "Meteorites from A 
> to Z" booklet (ed 2008) by Jensen bros.
>
> Note: Murchison is CM2.5 (Rubin & al, Geochim, Cosmochim. Acta, 2008)
>
> Note 2: don't forget to add CK3 and C2 (Tagish) and a few other (see 
> Carl's remarks)
>
> Note 3: I am not sure "metachondrite" is official, though I very much 
> appreciate that new nomenclature suggested by D. Weir in his 
> outstanding comprehensive site.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Zelimir
>
>
>
> Galactic Stone & Ironworks  a écrit :
>
>> Thanks to Carl, Katsu, Greg, Martin, and everyone else who provided 
>> corrections and input on this list.  I have made corrections and the 
>> revised list is presented below :
>>
>> Carbonaceous Chondrites :
>>
>> CI (Ivuna)
>> CM1 (Mighei)
>> CM2 (subdivided into CM2.0 to CM2.6)
>> CM3
>> CO3 (Ornans) (subdivided into CO3.03 to CO3.7)
>> CV (Vigarano) (also CV2 and CV3)
>> CK (Karoonda) (CK4, CK5, CK6)
>> CR (Renazzo) (CR1, CR2, CR3)
>> CB (Bencubbin)
>> CH
>> CR ungrouped
>> C4 ungrouped
>> C ungrouped
>>
>>
>> Ordinary Chondrites :
>>
>> Rumuruti R3 (subdivided into R3.5-6 to R3.9)
>> R4
>> R5
>> R6
>>
>> LL (subdivided into LL3.0 to LL3.9)
>> LL4
>> LL5
>> LL5/6
>> LL6
>> LL6/7
>> LL7
>> LL impact melt
>>
>> LL transitional (L/LL3 to L/LL6)
>> L (subdivided into L3.0 to L3.9)
>> 

Re: [meteorite-list] The Perils of Type Collecting - A Guide

2010-03-04 Thread Chladnis Heirs
Hi Mike,

>So, is there a C3?

The Bulletin Database has 12 (not pairing-adjusted) "C3-ungrouped" entries.

Most prominent should be Ningqiang, which was first a CV3, than a CK3 (some
intermediates between CVs and CKs, you have with Tanezrouft 057 and NWA
2900)
and which is now a C3-ungr.

Well and else... we have that stone,
http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/nwa5377-6.671g.jpg

which was preliminarily classified as a C3 (without "ungr").
But it's provisional and has still to be accepted by the NomCom. 

http://kuerzer.de/5377


Best!
Martin & Stefan

Chladni's Heirs
Munich - Berlin
Fine Meteorites for Science & Collectors   
http://www.chladnis-heirs.com





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Hi Zelimir and List!

Now that I look closely (on David Weir's site), I see that the CM3
class is tenative and is probably not official nomenclature yet.  The
following specimens are listed as tenative CM3 :

Acfer 094, WIS 91600, B-7904,and Paris.

About Tagish Lake and the C2 group (which I overlooked the C2, but
initially had Tagish in the wrong class as C-ung, which I now notice
is C2-ung).  So, is there a C3?

Best regards,

MikeG

Revised List -

---
Carbonaceous Chondrites :

CI (Ivuna)
CM1 (Mighei)
CM2 (subdivided into CM2.0 to CM2.6)
CM3
CO3 (Ornans) (subdivided into CO3.03 to CO3.7)
CV (Vigarano) (also CV2 and CV3)
CK (Karoonda) (CK4, CK5, CK6)
CR (Renazzo) (CR1, CR2, CR3)
CB (Bencubbin)
CH
CR ungrouped
C ungrouped
C2 ungrouped (Tagish Lake)
C4 ungrouped


Ordinary Chondrites :

Rumuruti R3 (subdivided into R3.5-6 to R3.9)
R4
R5
R6

LL (subdivided into LL3.0 to LL3.9)
LL4
LL5
LL5/6
LL6
LL6/7
LL7
LL impact melt

LL transitional (L/LL3 to L/LL6)
L (subdivided into L3.0 to L3.9)
L4
L5
L6
L6/7
L7
L impact melt

H/L transitional (H/L3 to H/L6 IMB, H/L3.6 to H/L3-4)
H (subdivided into H3.0 to H3.9)
H4
H5
H6
H7
H impact melt

ungrouped ordinary chondrites


Enstatite Chondrites :

EL (EL3 to EL7)
EL impact melt
EH/L
EH (EH3 to EH7)
EH impact melt
ungrouped enstatite chondrites

K (Kakangari)

Meta-chondrites (M-CV, M-CR, M-H, M-LL)


Primitive Chondrites :

Acapulcoite
Lodranite
Winonaites
ungrouped primitive chondrites


Achondrites :

Howardite (subdivided into fragmental breccia and regolith breccia)
Eucrite (monomict and polymict with each having subclasses)
Diogenite (monomict and polymict)
Olivine Diogenite
Dunite
Ureilite (monomict and polymict)


Martian achondrites :

Shergottite
Pyroxene-phyric basaltic shergottite
Olivine-phyric basaltic shergottite
Olivine-orthopyroxene-phyric basaltic shergottite
Pyroxene-peridotitic (Wehrlitic) shergottite
Lherzolitic shergottite
Diabasic shergottite

Nakhlite
Chassignite
Orthopyroxenite (ALH 84001)


Lunar Achondrites :

Feldspathic breccias
Regolith breccia
Fragmental breccia
Impact melt breccia
Granulitic breccia
Mafic-rich
Thorium-rich
KREEP-rich

Mingled Breccia
Mare Basalt


Other Achondrites :

Angrites (Plutonic and Basaltic)
Brachinite
Aubrite
ungrouped achondrites (Ibitira, Pasamonte, etc)


Stony-Irons :

Mesosiderites (1A,1B,2A,2B,2C,3A,3B,4A,4B)
ungrouped mesosiderites

Pallasites (Main Group, Eagle Station group, Pyroxene group)
Pallasite-am (anomalous, PMG-am, PMG-as)
ungrouped pallasites


Iron meteorites :

Note, iron meteorites are a can of worms. I will only focus on the
main chemical groups, and not the various grouplets and sub-types of
each main chemical group. Also note that many of these types include
silicated varities. Listing all of the known sub-types of irons would
require a LONG list resembling a flow-chart.

IAB
IC
IIAB
IIC
IID
IIE
IIF
IIG
IIIAB
IIIE
IIIF
IVA
IVB
ungrouped irons

-


On 3/4/10, zelimir.gabel...@uha.fr  wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Can you tell me the name of the CM3 ?
>
> Btw: a very complete list of types (& subtypes) can also be found in
> both the Met. Bull. database or at the end of the "Meteorites from A
> to Z" booklet (ed 2008) by Jensen bros.
>
> Note: Murchison is CM2.5 (Rubin & al, Geochim, Cosmochim. Acta, 2008)
>
> Note 2: don't forget to add CK3 and C2 (Tagish) and a few other (see
> Carl's remarks)
>
> Note 3: I am not sure "metachondrite" is official, though I very much
> appreciate that new nomenclature suggested by D. Weir in his
> outstanding comprehensive site.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Zelimir
>
>
>
> Galactic Stone & Ironworks  a écrit :
>
>> Thanks to Carl, Katsu, Greg, Martin, and everyone else who provided
>> corrections and input on this list.  I have made corrections and the
>> revised list is presented below :
>>
>> Carbonaceous Chondrites :
>>
>> CI (Ivuna)
>> CM1 (Mighei)
>> CM2 (subdivided into CM2.0 to CM2.6)
>> CM3
>> CO

[meteorite-list] Four small problems, Ron

2010-03-04 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Ron, all - 

First off, congratulations Count.

Now to the matter at hand. I see where all the experts got together and decided 
that an asteroid impact at Chicxulub killed the dinosaurs.

The first problem is that it was a COMET that hit, not an asteroid, and we have 
a sample of it, which you can see by image googling "kt-fossil".

Second, it was the impact of multiple comet fragments:
http://www.depts.ttu.edu/vpr/dinosaurs.php
http://www.depts.ttu.edu/gesc/Fac_pages/...

(By the way, it may be that oil gathers in the cracks caused by impact: 
Chicxulub responsible for Mexican, Venezeulan and Texas oil?
and Shiva responsible for Saudi, Iraq, and Iranian oil? and Ukraine responsible 
for Baku oil? Only the oil companies know for sure.)

The Chicxulub impact intensified the anti-podal Deccan Trap eruption, and then 
the Shiva impact set it off full bore, not to mention the small Ukrainian 
impact somewhere in there.

So that's the four small problems, and maybe number 5.

good hunting, all
E.P. Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas


  
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[meteorite-list] YD impacts explained

2010-03-04 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - 

By Bill Napier, over at http://cosmictusk.com/

enjoy, and good hunting,
E.P. Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas
(thought to be a landmark book by some, and not too bad if you can stand the 
small type, not enough illustrations, and too many typos.)


  
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[meteorite-list] Dinosaurs rocked!

2010-03-04 Thread Darren Garrison
Unless they were iced...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/03/04/BAFS1CADDJ.DTL

Settled: Dinosaurs done in by asteroid

David Perlman, Chronicle Science Editor

Thursday, March 4, 2010

(03-04) 15:09 PST SAN FRANCISCO -- What killed off all the dinosaurs?

Thirty years ago, UC Berkeley geologist Walter Alvarez offered his revolutionary
answer to that question and incited one of the liveliest controversies in modern
science.

Now an international team of scientists will report Friday that the issue is
settled: Alvarez was right.

In 1980, Alvarez and his colleagues at Berkeley theorized that a monstrous
asteroid 10 miles wide slammed into Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula and dug a crater
60 miles wide and 15 miles deep. The impact sent up a huge cloud of ash, soot,
pulverized rock and sulfurous steam that darkened the skies for years like a
nuclear winter, dooming more than half the world's life on land and in the
oceans - microorganisms, plants and animals.

The dinosaurs, those iconic beasts that had ruled the world for 160 million
years, also vanished in that long-lasting cataclysm, the Alvarez team
maintained.

They found worldwide layers of clay containing the rare metallic element iridium
that was scattered by the crashing asteroid; they found the crater caused by the
asteroid impact just off the Yucatan Peninsula at Chicxulub (pronounced
Chic-shoo-loob); and they found tiny spherules of shocked quartz both inside the
crater and far beyond the crash site, from Australia to Europe.

Scores of other scientists have found supporting evidence over the past three
decades and estimated that the asteroid impact set off earthquakes with
magnitudes as high as 11 -inconceivably greater than the quakes that have hit
Chile and Haiti.
The volcano theory

But there are disbelievers among other respected scientists who insist that
violent volcanic eruptions, not asteroids, caused what was one of the worst mass
extinctions in the world's history. Huge layers of volcanic rocks a mile thick
and covering nearly 200,000 square miles are still evidence of those eruptions
in an area of India known as the Deccan Traps, they say.

In Friday's report in the journal Science 41 noted scientists from a wide array
of disciplines declare that those espousing the volcano theory are wrong;
Alvarez and his team were right, they say.

The scientists work in every known discipline - geophysics, paleontology,
climatology, geochemistry, microbiology, zoology, botany and more. They have
re-worked the Alvarez team's findings, gathered new evidence and agree on their
conclusions.

In an e-mail interview Thursday, the leader of the group, Peter Shulte, said the
Chicxulub crater and its global distribution of shocked quartz form the
"fingerprint" backing the asteroid theory, and that the Deccan volcanism
actually started 700,000 before the mass extinction occurred.

The asteroid, he said, struck a sulfate-rich area that released masses of deadly
sulfur aerosols "leading to rapid darkness and cooling of the Earth."

"We conclude that a single impact was the ultimate cause for the mass
extinctions," said Shulte, a geophysicist at the University of
Erlangen-Nurnberg.

Kirk Johnson, a paleobotanist at the Denver Museum of Nature and Science who was
one of the journal authors, said of Alvarez and his many colleagues: "They got
it right; it was an inspired body of work."
Scientist unconvinced

But Gerta Keller, a Princeton paleontologist and geochemist who is a leading
expert on global catastrophes and mass extinctions and a supporter of the Deccan
Traps theory, is not convinced.

She argued in an interview this week that her team's evidence shows that the
Chicxulub impact occurred at least 300,000 years before the start of the mass
extinction; that the scientists responsible for Friday's Science article ignored
and misrepresented her group's evidence about the timing and effect of the
Deccan volcanism.

Those volcanoes, she said, emitted 30 times more global life-killing sulfur
fumes than any asteroid impact could; that 30 pulses of eruptions and lava flows
caused the mass extinction; and that the asteroid impact, whenever it happened,
caused no extinctions at all nor any change in the world's climate or
environment.

The real evidence for the mass extinction and the death of the dinosaurs still
lies in the vast basalts of the Deccan volcanoes, Keller insisted.

Now Alvarez has moved on to bigger things since he and his team published their
theories and added more details to support it. But Friday's report pleases him
greatly, he said.

"It's wonderful to see that our work is vindicated by such a large collection of
the very top people in all those fields," he said in an interview. "It's
gratifying indeed, but I've moved away from my love of geology these days, and
I'm interested in what we call Big History now - the entire history of the
cosmos, Earth, life and humanity. What a wonderful class to teach!"
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[meteorite-list] Meaty-orite??

2010-03-04 Thread Greg Hupe

Is there a butcher in the house? :-/

http://cgi.ebay.com/1700g-West-Ash-Creek-TX-L6-Meteorite-Individual-M-M_W0QQitemZ250591121428QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a58651014



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[meteorite-list] Very good newspaper article on the Duluth fireball

2010-03-04 Thread Michael Groetz
http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/event/article/id/162010/group/home/

Fireball over Duluth!

Were you one of the lucky ones to see the brilliant, flaming object
plunge over the region about 7:15 p.m. last night? People all the way
from Cook County along Lake Superior's North Shore to Duluth to the
Spooner area in northern Wisconsin all reported seeing what appears to
be the same object. Audrey Monicken, who lives on Park Point, said she
was watching TV when she caught the sight.

"I saw a flaming thing come down out of the sky," she said, and
described the object as about the size of a mattress with red flames.
>From her vantage point, Monicken said the object seemed to disappear
in the middle of the bay.

Then we have this description from Wendy Hamm:

"My daughter and I were driving across the Bong Bridge (heading to
Superior) when we saw the object in the sky which was on its way down
(large, green with red on the bottom and the size of an average round
dinner table). It appeared to land in the water/ice in between the
Bong Bridge and railroad bridge or possibly where the old Arrowhead
Bridge was located. Someone might want to check that area out. And I
thought objects from space always landed in the ocean!!"

Brad Wick with the Duluth Police Department checked with the Duluth
International Airport in case the object was a plane in distress, but
no planes were in the area at the time. So what was it? The most
likely explanation is a brilliant meteor called a fireball. In a
lifetime you might see a half dozen of these spectacular sights, but
they occur somewhere over Earth every day and night.

Every meteor or "shooting star" you see is a fragment of a comet or
asteroid. The small ones might only be the size of grain of sand, but
the larger ones like last night's can range from pebble-sized to many
meters. While still in outer space, fragments destined to become a
meteors are called meteoroids. When they enter Earth's atmosphere at
speeds from  25,000 to 160,000 mph, they vaporize in a bright flash,
creating a brilliant trail we see as a meteor. Because they're so
bright and with no ready clues to their true distance, we're usually
tricked into thinking meteors are very close by. If one happens to
fade out over your downtown you might think it fell on Main Street. In
reality meteors burn up some 70 miles over our heads -- and that's if
you see one straight up at the top of the sky. If you're watching a
fireball off in one direction or another, you have to add in the
horizontal distance between you and the object. A more typical
distance between you and a bright meteor would be closer to a hundred
miles or more.

If a meteor is large enough to survive the friction and pressure of
atmospheric entry and lands in pieces on the ground it's called a
meteorite. A meteor destined to become a meteorite usually fades out
about 30 miles above the ground and continues in "dark fall" until it
strikes the ground. The larger the object falling, the more likely it
will create a sonic boom or rumblings like cannon fire on its way
down. Did anyone out there hear anything at the time? Could fragments
have reached the ground? Unless someone actually sees and hears the
objects falling nearby, chances are that this meteor -- if it did
produce meteorites -- will be extremely difficult to find. Most
fireballs produce a great show but vaporize to dust. Given the vast
surface area of the Earth, meteorites land with regularity, but actual
 witnessed meteorite falls are uncommon. On average meteorites from
falls are recovered only about five to ten times a year.

Let's assume for a moment that last night's fireball made it all the
way down. How would we go about finding it? We'd have to gather many
eyewitness reports of brightness, time and direction of travel and
then triangulate a possible fall location. Meteorite hunters would
then "work" the area with their eyes and metal detectors to look for
fresh, black, rounded and fragmented rocks. The black coating on a
fresh meteorite is called fusion crust and the result of frictional
heating during its plummit through the atmosphere. Fusion crust is
only a couple millimeters thick; the inside of the meteorite still
holds onto the chill of outer space. Most meteorites contain
iron-nickel metal which a properly tuned metal detector can detect.
Another more recent technique is using Doppler weather radar to pick
up the dust and debris trail from a falling meteor. Precise data like
that is invaluable in helping to  pinpoint the fall location.

Doppler was used to help find last year's well-publicized Ash Creek
fall last February near West, Texas. Needless to say, it's a lot
easier to find meteorite fragments if you're searching farm fields and
open prairie than a region covered by forests and lakes!

All this time I've been talking meteor fragments but there's also the
small possibility the flaming object was a piece of manmade space
junk. I haven't seen any postings on a listserv on the s

[meteorite-list] Fw: Carsten's NWA 6043 (CR2)

2010-03-04 Thread Larry & Twink Monrad
--From Bernd who could not post to the 
list


Hello Folks,

This is a wonderful CR2 from the deserts of Northwest Africa!
If interested, have a look at a close-up pic that I took at 8x of
its gorgeous matrix and its out-of-this-world chondrules.

The picture can be viewed and enjoyed in the online Encyclopedia
of Meteorites. There are also pics of this wonderful CR2 from other
collectors.

Enjoy!

Bernd (in Germany)




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Re: [meteorite-list] The Perils of Type Collecting - A Guide

2010-03-04 Thread Zelimir . Gabelica


Hi Mike,

Can you tell me the name of the CM3 ?

Btw: a very complete list of types (& subtypes) can also be found in  
both the Met. Bull. database or at the end of the "Meteorites from A  
to Z" booklet (ed 2008) by Jensen bros.


Note: Murchison is CM2.5 (Rubin & al, Geochim, Cosmochim. Acta, 2008)

Note 2: don't forget to add CK3 and C2 (Tagish) and a few other (see  
Carl's remarks)


Note 3: I am not sure "metachondrite" is official, though I very much  
appreciate that new nomenclature suggested by D. Weir in his  
outstanding comprehensive site.


Best wishes,

Zelimir



Galactic Stone & Ironworks  a écrit :


Thanks to Carl, Katsu, Greg, Martin, and everyone else who provided
corrections and input on this list.  I have made corrections and the
revised list is presented below :

Carbonaceous Chondrites :

CI (Ivuna)
CM1 (Mighei)
CM2 (subdivided into CM2.0 to CM2.6)
CM3
CO3 (Ornans) (subdivided into CO3.03 to CO3.7)
CV (Vigarano) (also CV2 and CV3)
CK (Karoonda) (CK4, CK5, CK6)
CR (Renazzo) (CR1, CR2, CR3)
CB (Bencubbin)
CH
CR ungrouped
C4 ungrouped
C ungrouped


Ordinary Chondrites :

Rumuruti R3 (subdivided into R3.5-6 to R3.9)
R4
R5
R6

LL (subdivided into LL3.0 to LL3.9)
LL4
LL5
LL5/6
LL6
LL6/7
LL7
LL impact melt

LL transitional (L/LL3 to L/LL6)
L (subdivided into L3.0 to L3.9)
L4
L5
L6
L6/7
L7
L impact melt

H/L transitional (H/L3 to H/L6 IMB, H/L3.6 to H/L3-4)
H (subdivided into H3.0 to H3.9)
H4
H5
H6
H7
H impact melt

ungrouped ordinary chondrites


Enstatite Chondrites :

EL (EL3 to EL7)
EL impact melt
EH/L
EH (EH3 to EH7)
EH impact melt
ungrouped enstatite chondrites

K (Kakangari)

Meta-chondrites (M-CV, M-CR, M-H, M-LL)


Primitive Chondrites :

Acapulcoite
Lodranite
Winonaites
ungrouped primitive chondrites


Achondrites :

Howardite (subdivided into fragmental breccia and regolith breccia)
Eucrite (monomict and polymict with each having subclasses)
Diogenite (monomict and polymict)
Olivine Diogenite
Dunite
Ureilite (monomict and polymict)


Martian achondrites :

Shergottite
Pyroxene-phyric basaltic shergottite
Olivine-phyric basaltic shergottite
Olivine-orthopyroxene-phyric basaltic shergottite
Pyroxene-peridotitic (Wehrlitic) shergottite
Lherzolitic shergottite
Diabasic shergottite

Nakhlite
Chassignite
Orthopyroxenite (ALH 84001)


Lunar Achondrites :

Feldspathic breccias
Regolith breccia
Fragmental breccia
Impact melt breccia
Granulitic breccia
Mafic-rich
Thorium-rich
KREEP-rich

Mingled Breccia
Mare Basalt


Other Achondrites :

Angrites (Plutonic and Basaltic)
Brachinite
Aubrite
ungrouped achondrites (Ibitira, Pasamonte, etc)


Stony-Irons :

Mesosiderites (1A,1B,2A,2B,2C,3A,3B,4A,4B)
ungrouped mesosiderites

Pallasites (Main Group, Eagle Station group, Pyroxene group)
Pallasite-am (anomalous, PMG-am, PMG-as)
ungrouped pallasites


Iron meteorites :

Note, iron meteorites are a can of worms. I will only focus on the
main chemical groups, and not the various grouplets and sub-types of
each main chemical group. Also note that many of these types include
silicated varities. Listing all of the known sub-types of irons would
require a LONG list resembling a flow-chart.

IAB
IC
IIAB
IIC
IID
IIE
IIF
IIG
IIIAB
IIIE
IIIF
IVA
IVB
ungrouped irons

--

On 3/4/10, Katsu OHTSUKA  wrote:

CM2 (Mighei-type)

Katsu

- Original Message -
From: "Greg Stanley" 
To: ; ;
; 
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Perils of Type Collecting - A Guide




Murchison is a CM2

Greg S.



Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:12:20 -0500
From: cdtuc...@cox.net
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; damoc...@yahoo.com;
meteoritem...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Perils of Type Collecting - A Guide

Good list,
missing is the division between
CBa Buencubbin
CBb HAH 237
CK3
and Tagish lake is not ungrouped but I think is a C2.
--
Carl or Debbie Esparza
Meteoritemax


 Richard Kowalski  wrote:

Thanks a lot Mike.

I thought I had pretty much completed my type set a few months ago, but
now I see that I'm missed a few gradations that maybe I should pay
attention to.

I think, for budgetary and sanity sake, I'll have to be selective in how

fine my divisions are than to try to get every sub-type you mention!

--
Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA #1081


--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Galactic Stone & Ironworks  wrote:


From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Subject: [meteorite-list] The Perils of Type Collecting - A Guide
To: "Meteorite List"
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 4:18 PM
Greetings Listees and fellow
collectors,

To the veteran collector, there will be little of interest
in this
post.  This post is directed at the silent newbie or
beginner lurkers
who are sorting through this List and trying to find their
way around
the world of collecting meteorites.

Many new collectors often want one of each type of
meteorite.  Many
veteran collectors abandon this pursuit because the task is
quite
daunting.   So wh

Re: [meteorite-list] The Perils of Type Collecting - A Guide

2010-03-04 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Hi Zelimir and List!

Now that I look closely (on David Weir's site), I see that the CM3
class is tenative and is probably not official nomenclature yet.  The
following specimens are listed as tenative CM3 :

Acfer 094, WIS 91600, B-7904,and Paris.

About Tagish Lake and the C2 group (which I overlooked the C2, but
initially had Tagish in the wrong class as C-ung, which I now notice
is C2-ung).  So, is there a C3?

Best regards,

MikeG

Revised List -

---
Carbonaceous Chondrites :

CI (Ivuna)
CM1 (Mighei)
CM2 (subdivided into CM2.0 to CM2.6)
CM3
CO3 (Ornans) (subdivided into CO3.03 to CO3.7)
CV (Vigarano) (also CV2 and CV3)
CK (Karoonda) (CK4, CK5, CK6)
CR (Renazzo) (CR1, CR2, CR3)
CB (Bencubbin)
CH
CR ungrouped
C ungrouped
C2 ungrouped (Tagish Lake)
C4 ungrouped


Ordinary Chondrites :

Rumuruti R3 (subdivided into R3.5-6 to R3.9)
R4
R5
R6

LL (subdivided into LL3.0 to LL3.9)
LL4
LL5
LL5/6
LL6
LL6/7
LL7
LL impact melt

LL transitional (L/LL3 to L/LL6)
L (subdivided into L3.0 to L3.9)
L4
L5
L6
L6/7
L7
L impact melt

H/L transitional (H/L3 to H/L6 IMB, H/L3.6 to H/L3-4)
H (subdivided into H3.0 to H3.9)
H4
H5
H6
H7
H impact melt

ungrouped ordinary chondrites


Enstatite Chondrites :

EL (EL3 to EL7)
EL impact melt
EH/L
EH (EH3 to EH7)
EH impact melt
ungrouped enstatite chondrites

K (Kakangari)

Meta-chondrites (M-CV, M-CR, M-H, M-LL)


Primitive Chondrites :

Acapulcoite
Lodranite
Winonaites
ungrouped primitive chondrites


Achondrites :

Howardite (subdivided into fragmental breccia and regolith breccia)
Eucrite (monomict and polymict with each having subclasses)
Diogenite (monomict and polymict)
Olivine Diogenite
Dunite
Ureilite (monomict and polymict)


Martian achondrites :

Shergottite
Pyroxene-phyric basaltic shergottite
Olivine-phyric basaltic shergottite
Olivine-orthopyroxene-phyric basaltic shergottite
Pyroxene-peridotitic (Wehrlitic) shergottite
Lherzolitic shergottite
Diabasic shergottite

Nakhlite
Chassignite
Orthopyroxenite (ALH 84001)


Lunar Achondrites :

Feldspathic breccias
Regolith breccia
Fragmental breccia
Impact melt breccia
Granulitic breccia
Mafic-rich
Thorium-rich
KREEP-rich

Mingled Breccia
Mare Basalt


Other Achondrites :

Angrites (Plutonic and Basaltic)
Brachinite
Aubrite
ungrouped achondrites (Ibitira, Pasamonte, etc)


Stony-Irons :

Mesosiderites (1A,1B,2A,2B,2C,3A,3B,4A,4B)
ungrouped mesosiderites

Pallasites (Main Group, Eagle Station group, Pyroxene group)
Pallasite-am (anomalous, PMG-am, PMG-as)
ungrouped pallasites


Iron meteorites :

Note, iron meteorites are a can of worms. I will only focus on the
main chemical groups, and not the various grouplets and sub-types of
each main chemical group. Also note that many of these types include
silicated varities. Listing all of the known sub-types of irons would
require a LONG list resembling a flow-chart.

IAB
IC
IIAB
IIC
IID
IIE
IIF
IIG
IIIAB
IIIE
IIIF
IVA
IVB
ungrouped irons

-


On 3/4/10, zelimir.gabel...@uha.fr  wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Can you tell me the name of the CM3 ?
>
> Btw: a very complete list of types (& subtypes) can also be found in
> both the Met. Bull. database or at the end of the "Meteorites from A
> to Z" booklet (ed 2008) by Jensen bros.
>
> Note: Murchison is CM2.5 (Rubin & al, Geochim, Cosmochim. Acta, 2008)
>
> Note 2: don't forget to add CK3 and C2 (Tagish) and a few other (see
> Carl's remarks)
>
> Note 3: I am not sure "metachondrite" is official, though I very much
> appreciate that new nomenclature suggested by D. Weir in his
> outstanding comprehensive site.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Zelimir
>
>
>
> Galactic Stone & Ironworks  a écrit :
>
>> Thanks to Carl, Katsu, Greg, Martin, and everyone else who provided
>> corrections and input on this list.  I have made corrections and the
>> revised list is presented below :
>>
>> Carbonaceous Chondrites :
>>
>> CI (Ivuna)
>> CM1 (Mighei)
>> CM2 (subdivided into CM2.0 to CM2.6)
>> CM3
>> CO3 (Ornans) (subdivided into CO3.03 to CO3.7)
>> CV (Vigarano) (also CV2 and CV3)
>> CK (Karoonda) (CK4, CK5, CK6)
>> CR (Renazzo) (CR1, CR2, CR3)
>> CB (Bencubbin)
>> CH
>> CR ungrouped
>> C4 ungrouped
>> C ungrouped
>>
>>
>> Ordinary Chondrites :
>>
>> Rumuruti R3 (subdivided into R3.5-6 to R3.9)
>> R4
>> R5
>> R6
>>
>> LL (subdivided into LL3.0 to LL3.9)
>> LL4
>> LL5
>> LL5/6
>> LL6
>> LL6/7
>> LL7
>> LL impact melt
>>
>> LL transitional (L/LL3 to L/LL6)
>> L (subdivided into L3.0 to L3.9)
>> L4
>> L5
>> L6
>> L6/7
>> L7
>> L impact melt
>>
>> H/L transitional (H/L3 to H/L6 IMB, H/L3.6 to H/L3-4)
>> H (subdivided into H3.0 to H3.9)
>> H4
>> H5
>> H6
>> H7
>> H impact melt
>>
>> ungrouped ordinary chondrites
>>
>>
>> Enstatite Chondrites :
>>
>> EL (EL3 to EL7)
>> EL impact melt
>> EH/L
>> EH (EH3 to EH7)
>> EH impact melt
>> ungrouped enstatite chondrites
>>
>> K (Kakangari)
>>
>> Meta-chondrites (M-CV, M-CR, M-H, M-LL)
>>
>>
>> Primitive Chondrites :
>>
>> Acapulcoite
>> Lodranite
>> Winonaites
>> ungroup

[meteorite-list] Could Another Dog Have Found a Meteorite... hmmm

2010-03-04 Thread Greg Stanley

Take a look at this on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/Iron-Meteorit_W0QQitemZ120536592066QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c108a6ec2

He says his dog found it.

I don't know...?

Greg S.
  
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[meteorite-list] Science Team Says Giant Meteorite, Not Volcanoes, Killed Dinosaurs

2010-03-04 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.psi.edu/press/  

SCIENCE TEAM SAYS GIANT METEORITE, NOT VOLCANOES, KILLED DINOSAURS
Ed Stiles
Public Information Office
Planetary Science Institute
520-248-7119
psin...@psi.edu

March 4, 2010 - A team of scientists, including Elisabetta Pierazzo, a
senior scientist at the Tucson-based Planetary Science Institute, has
concluded that a giant meteorite impact is still the best explanation
for the disappearance of dinosaurs and many other species 65.5 million
years ago.

The 41 scientists, from Europe, Mexico, Canada, Japan and the United
States, published their results today in the highly respected scientific
journal Science, concluding that alternative hypotheses are inadequate
in explaining the abrupt mass extinction at the end of the Cretaceous
period.

Scientists refer to this point in the geologic record as the K/Pg
boundary, and attribute it to extreme climate change caused by the
Chicxulub (Chick-shuh-loob) meteorite impact.

Pierazzo, who began modeling the impact as a Ph.D. student, was the
first scientist to develop high-resolution, 3-D simulations of the
Chicxulub event as an oblique impact. This work was done in
collaboration with David Crawford, of Sandia National Laboratory. The
results clearly showed that the effects on Earth's climate were even
more dramatic than had been previously hypothesized. The simulation
showed huge amounts of sulfur oxides were ejected into the upper
atmosphere, drastically altering the Earth's climate.

However, some scientists have disputed the Chicxulub hypothesis,
attributing the climate change and mass extinctions to volcanic activity
in the Deccan Traps, an area on the Indian subcontinent. They theorize
that global cooling and acid rain resulting from this volcanic activity
were the major cause of mass extinctions, not the Chicxulub impact in
Mexico.

"Large amounts of sulfur oxides were injected into the atmosphere during
the Deccan volcanism," Pierazzo said. "But they were distributed in
several pulses that extended over several hundred thousand years before
- and after - the K/Pg boundary. Yet, the major, large biotic changes at
the end of the Cretaceous era appear to have happened abruptly and
exactly at the K/Pg boundary, when Chicxulub hit."

Marine and terrestrial ecosystems showed only minor changes during the
500,000 years leading up to the K/Pg boundary, the researchers conclude
in the Science article. But an abrupt and major decrease in the mass of
living things and species diversity occurs precisely at the boundary.

This data, along with new data derived from ocean drilling samples and
continental sites, as well as reanalysis of previous K/Pg boundary
studies, leads the research team to conclude that the Chicxulub impact
hypothesis has grown stronger than ever.

"Combining all available data from different science disciplines led us
to conclude that a large asteroid impact 65 million years ago in
modern-day Mexico was the major cause of the mass extinctions," says
Peter Schulte, assistant professor at the University of Erlangen in
Germany and lead author of the review paper.

According to analysis of the Chicxulub crater in Yucatan, Mexico and
other data from the geologic record, scientists conclude that the
meteorite was between 10 and 15 kilometers in diameter and hit Earth at
a speed 20 times faster than a rifle bullet. The resulting explosion was
a billion times larger than the Hiroshima atomic bomb and a million
times larger than the biggest nuclear bomb ever tested.


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[meteorite-list] McKinney anyone?

2010-03-04 Thread Linton Rohr

Greetings listoids.
I'm wondering if anyone might have a small (1-10g) McKinney (Texas) specimen 
available. I have a nice one already, but some friends of mine are living in 
McKinney now, and I thought that would make a nice little gift for them. 
Thank you.
Linton 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Way To Go Count!!!!!!!!!!

2010-03-04 Thread Alexander Seidel
Now *THIS* is what I would call a REAL GOOD STORY!!! Thanks a bunch,
Count, for telling it! I am sure, Guido, the folks here will enjoy
reading your report as much as I did!

Thank you also for your personal comments in German language - this
is well appreciated! And, by the way, I was quite impressed to read 
about your family backgrounds on a very well-known public website.

Many thanks once again, Count Deiro - my sincere congrats, Guido!
Alex
Berlin/Germany 


 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:34:37 -0500 (EST)
> Von: countde...@earthlink.net
> An: Alexander Seidel 
> CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Way To Go Count!!

> Alexander Seidel and List,
> 
> Alexander asked that I share with him and the List the personal experience
> of having my first find be such a remarkable specimen. I am told by those
> who should know that this chondrite is the largest intact specimen so far
> found in Nevada. I would ask the List if this is so. 
> 
> Here's an account for those who wish to read about a "newbie" finding his
> first metorite.
> 
> I began to study meteorites about a year ago as a diversion to take my
> mind off the two years of radiation and chemo treatments I had been undergoing
> for stage IV metastized cancer. I had responded well for a 72 year old and
> was in remission. I needed some new pursuit to get my mental and physical
> health back. Little did I know that I was about to catch another
> disease..and this one incurable...the obsession with meteorites.
> 
> After purchasing some sixty different types and classifications, a stereo
> scope and a cabinet for comparison purposes ...and reading numerous posts
> on List and dozens of papers, attending Tucson... putting faces on all whom
> I had met online... I decided I was ready to go into the field. 
> 
> I was fortunate to have made acquaintance with Sonny Clary who lives
> nearby. He had become my mentor, given me samples and shown me some pointers 
> on
> hunting by taking me on a short local trip to look at an area of interest.
> We spent maybe two hours in the field. Sonny moves quickly, his acute
> vision and experience letting him cover a lot of ground in very little time. I
> found I was more comfortable going my own way and not slowing him up.
> Neither he, nor I, found anything. 
> 
> I have four grandsons and I spent a few hours in some vacant fields in Las
> Vegas throwing down weathered samples and demonstrating to them the use of
> the cane and detector. Ten year old , Vincent, was fascinated. The others
> non-plussed.
> 
> Night before last, May 2nd., Sonny called late and invited me to spend my
> first full day hunting an area he felt was promising several hours away. We
> met at his home and loaded up the gear, food and water. Brix, his super
> Alsatian, whined excitedly knowing we were going on a hunt. Sonny has trained
> Brix to the point that the dog will bring him rocks in the field. No
> meteorites yet...but it will happen.
> 
> We arrived in the desert around nine o'clock. The temperature was a
> pleasant 67 degrees under clear skies and no wind. We saddled up and agreed 
> as to
> which way each of us would go. Sonny took off to the left and I to the
> right. Within minutes we were out of sight of each other. We did have a means
> of communicating electronically in the event of an emergency. Both of us
> are Nevadans and have spent years in the desert hunting game, Sonny
> meteorites and in my case, before it became illegal, early man artifacts.
> 
> After several hours with no luck, we met back at the truck and traveled
> two miles north on the valley floor. After another hour or two of nothing but
> meteor wrongs picked up from the desert pavement, Sonny decided to expand
> our search area again several miles west. 
> 
> This time we were on excellent ground. Flat, with very little organic
> growth and hardly any rocks at all. If they were here, the meteorites would
> stand out prominently. Again, Sonny strode off northwest with Brix roaming in
> front of him. Brix has received snake avoidance training and a good thing,
> because the rattlers, including the feared "Mohave Green", are coming out
> of their dens this time of year to warm themselves, and shed their winter
> skin, making them ill tempered and aggressive. Sonny hunted with no
> assistance from cane, or detector. I used my staff with a circular neodymium 
> magnet
> screwed on the end.  
> 
> I followed Sonny to the west, deciding to make the first leg of my search
> into the reduced visibility of the sun, so I could make the other two half
> mile legs with the sun at my side and rear to highlight the ground and
> prevent squinting. I have special tinted prescription glasses that provide 
> some
> UV protection, reduce eye strain and sharpen the field of view. 
> 
> Sonny and Brix were quickly out of sight. About an hour and a half into
> things and while walking forward a few paces at

[meteorite-list] TKW of all known lunar meteorites?

2010-03-04 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Greetings listees,

Can anyone tell me what the TKW (total known weight) of all lunar meteorites?

At last count (using Dr. Korotev's listing) there are 66 lunars
(counting all pairings once for their respective find), but I don't
have a TKW.  I guess I could sit and add them all up, but I was hoping
someone would already know or could point me to a web link with the
info.

Best regards and thanks in advance,

MikeG

PS - if anyone happens to have a TKW for all Martian meteorites,
please share that was well. :)


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Re: [meteorite-list] Way To Go Count!!!!!!!!!!

2010-03-04 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Greetings Count and List,

What a great account.  I am going to save that post.  I can only
imagine the rush of endorphins and adrenaline that must have resulted
from realizing the portion you found was just the tip of the
proverbial iceberg. :)

Yes, AFAIK, that is one of the biggest meteorites pulled out of that
area.  Sonny probably knows.  You may have a new main mass on your
hands!

Best regards and happy huntings!

MikeG


On 3/4/10, countde...@earthlink.net  wrote:
> Alexander Seidel and List,
>
> Alexander asked that I share with him and the List the personal experience
> of having my first find be such a remarkable specimen. I am told by those
> who should know that this chondrite is the largest intact specimen so far
> found in Nevada. I would ask the List if this is so.
>
> Here's an account for those who wish to read about a "newbie" finding his
> first metorite.
>
> I began to study meteorites about a year ago as a diversion to take my mind
> off the two years of radiation and chemo treatments I had been undergoing
> for stage IV metastized cancer. I had responded well for a 72 year old and
> was in remission. I needed some new pursuit to get my mental and physical
> health back. Little did I know that I was about to catch another
> disease..and this one incurable...the obsession with meteorites.
>
> After purchasing some sixty different types and classifications, a stereo
> scope and a cabinet for comparison purposes ...and reading numerous posts on
> List and dozens of papers, attending Tucson... putting faces on all whom I
> had met online... I decided I was ready to go into the field.
>
> I was fortunate to have made acquaintance with Sonny Clary who lives nearby.
> He had become my mentor, given me samples and shown me some pointers on
> hunting by taking me on a short local trip to look at an area of interest.
> We spent maybe two hours in the field. Sonny moves quickly, his acute vision
> and experience letting him cover a lot of ground in very little time. I
> found I was more comfortable going my own way and not slowing him up.
> Neither he, nor I, found anything.
>
> I have four grandsons and I spent a few hours in some vacant fields in Las
> Vegas throwing down weathered samples and demonstrating to them the use of
> the cane and detector. Ten year old , Vincent, was fascinated. The others
> non-plussed.
>
> Night before last, May 2nd., Sonny called late and invited me to spend my
> first full day hunting an area he felt was promising several hours away. We
> met at his home and loaded up the gear, food and water. Brix, his super
> Alsatian, whined excitedly knowing we were going on a hunt. Sonny has
> trained Brix to the point that the dog will bring him rocks in the field. No
> meteorites yet...but it will happen.
>
> We arrived in the desert around nine o'clock. The temperature was a pleasant
> 67 degrees under clear skies and no wind. We saddled up and agreed as to
> which way each of us would go. Sonny took off to the left and I to the
> right. Within minutes we were out of sight of each other. We did have a
> means of communicating electronically in the event of an emergency. Both of
> us are Nevadans and have spent years in the desert hunting game, Sonny
> meteorites and in my case, before it became illegal, early man artifacts.
>
> After several hours with no luck, we met back at the truck and traveled two
> miles north on the valley floor. After another hour or two of nothing but
> meteor wrongs picked up from the desert pavement, Sonny decided to expand
> our search area again several miles west.
>
> This time we were on excellent ground. Flat, with very little organic growth
> and hardly any rocks at all. If they were here, the meteorites would stand
> out prominently. Again, Sonny strode off northwest with Brix roaming in
> front of him. Brix has received snake avoidance training and a good thing,
> because the rattlers, including the feared "Mohave Green", are coming out of
> their dens this time of year to warm themselves, and shed their winter skin,
> making them ill tempered and aggressive. Sonny hunted with no assistance
> from cane, or detector. I used my staff with a circular neodymium magnet
> screwed on the end.
>
> I followed Sonny to the west, deciding to make the first leg of my search
> into the reduced visibility of the sun, so I could make the other two half
> mile legs with the sun at my side and rear to highlight the ground and
> prevent squinting. I have special tinted prescription glasses that provide
> some UV protection, reduce eye strain and sharpen the field of view.
>
> Sonny and Brix were quickly out of sight. About an hour and a half into
> things and while walking forward a few paces at a 45 degree angle to the
> left and then to the right, my scan picked up an irregular shape 50' to my
> right. It was so out of place as to shape and color that I knew immediately
> it was a possible. I turned and walked toward it. As I got within a few
> yards 

Re: [meteorite-list] Way To Go Count!!!!!!!!!!

2010-03-04 Thread countdeiro
Alexander Seidel and List,

Alexander asked that I share with him and the List the personal experience of 
having my first find be such a remarkable specimen. I am told by those who 
should know that this chondrite is the largest intact specimen so far found in 
Nevada. I would ask the List if this is so. 

Here's an account for those who wish to read about a "newbie" finding his first 
metorite.

I began to study meteorites about a year ago as a diversion to take my mind off 
the two years of radiation and chemo treatments I had been undergoing for stage 
IV metastized cancer. I had responded well for a 72 year old and was in 
remission. I needed some new pursuit to get my mental and physical health back. 
Little did I know that I was about to catch another disease..and this one 
incurable...the obsession with meteorites.

After purchasing some sixty different types and classifications, a stereo scope 
and a cabinet for comparison purposes ...and reading numerous posts on List and 
dozens of papers, attending Tucson... putting faces on all whom I had met 
online... I decided I was ready to go into the field. 

I was fortunate to have made acquaintance with Sonny Clary who lives nearby. He 
had become my mentor, given me samples and shown me some pointers on hunting by 
taking me on a short local trip to look at an area of interest. We spent maybe 
two hours in the field. Sonny moves quickly, his acute vision and experience 
letting him cover a lot of ground in very little time. I found I was more 
comfortable going my own way and not slowing him up. Neither he, nor I, found 
anything. 

I have four grandsons and I spent a few hours in some vacant fields in Las 
Vegas throwing down weathered samples and demonstrating to them the use of the 
cane and detector. Ten year old , Vincent, was fascinated. The others 
non-plussed.

Night before last, May 2nd., Sonny called late and invited me to spend my first 
full day hunting an area he felt was promising several hours away. We met at 
his home and loaded up the gear, food and water. Brix, his super Alsatian, 
whined excitedly knowing we were going on a hunt. Sonny has trained Brix to the 
point that the dog will bring him rocks in the field. No meteorites yet...but 
it will happen.

We arrived in the desert around nine o'clock. The temperature was a pleasant 67 
degrees under clear skies and no wind. We saddled up and agreed as to which way 
each of us would go. Sonny took off to the left and I to the right. Within 
minutes we were out of sight of each other. We did have a means of 
communicating electronically in the event of an emergency. Both of us are 
Nevadans and have spent years in the desert hunting game, Sonny meteorites and 
in my case, before it became illegal, early man artifacts.

After several hours with no luck, we met back at the truck and traveled two 
miles north on the valley floor. After another hour or two of nothing but 
meteor wrongs picked up from the desert pavement, Sonny decided to expand our 
search area again several miles west. 

This time we were on excellent ground. Flat, with very little organic growth 
and hardly any rocks at all. If they were here, the meteorites would stand out 
prominently. Again, Sonny strode off northwest with Brix roaming in front of 
him. Brix has received snake avoidance training and a good thing, because the 
rattlers, including the feared "Mohave Green", are coming out of their dens 
this time of year to warm themselves, and shed their winter skin, making them 
ill tempered and aggressive. Sonny hunted with no assistance from cane, or 
detector. I used my staff with a circular neodymium magnet screwed on the end.  

I followed Sonny to the west, deciding to make the first leg of my search into 
the reduced visibility of the sun, so I could make the other two half mile legs 
with the sun at my side and rear to highlight the ground and prevent squinting. 
I have special tinted prescription glasses that provide some UV protection, 
reduce eye strain and sharpen the field of view. 

Sonny and Brix were quickly out of sight. About an hour and a half into things 
and while walking forward a few paces at a 45 degree angle to the left and then 
to the right, my scan picked up an irregular shape 50' to my right. It was so 
out of place as to shape and color that I knew immediately it was a possible. I 
turned and walked toward it. As I got within a few yards I could see that it 
had the familiar dark desert patination that I had studied on my Gold Basin 
samples. It was a three inch high tip sticking out of the ground like a 
triangular iceberg. I started to laugh out loud as I walked around it in a 
tight circle. Taking my cane, I carefully placed it close along side dangling 
it loosely between two fingers. Nevada chondrites tend to have low metal. The 
cane moved slowly against the rock. So subtle was it's movement that I didn't 
immediately believe it and had to do the exercise all around the tip. Each tim

[meteorite-list] Asteroid Really Did Wipe Out Dinos

2010-03-04 Thread Meteorites USA

This just in... ;) again...

"...The city-size asteroid that slammed into Earth with the force of a 
million nuclear bombs is what snuffed out the dinosaurs and half of all 
other species on Earth 65 million years ago, an international group of 
scientists who reviewed all available evidence said today..."


Asteroid terminated dinosaur era in a matter of days
http://blogs.nationalgeographic.com/blogs/news/chiefeditor/2010/03/asteroid-terminated-dinosaur-era-in-days.html

"The impact hypothesis has grown stronger than ever."

Scientists conclude asteroid, not volcanoes, wiped out dinosaurs
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/discoveries/2010-03-04-dinos05_N.htm

Enjoy...

Regards,
Eric Wichman
Meteorites USA

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[meteorite-list] posted earlier yesterday but didnt post

2010-03-04 Thread drtanuki
Hello List,

  I have just posted some new videos of the 28FEB2010 event in Hungary.  This 
was a large bolide with some good videos.  Hopefully some meteorites will be 
recovered.

www.http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2010/03/hungary-bolide-meteor-28feb2010-new.html

If anyone has more information please let me know.  Best Regards, Dirk 
Ross...Tokyo

Also post on Duluth Meteor!!!

www.http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com
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[meteorite-list] Count searches- Count scores!!!!!!

2010-03-04 Thread brian burrer
What a spectacular find!  My personal life list includes 750
bediasites, 1 georgite and zero meteorites.  Zilch!  You give hope to
us all.  I wish a 28 pounder on all rookies out there mixing it up
with the topography.  Oh, and 5 pounders for everyone else as well...
Brian
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[meteorite-list] Northland residents report flaming object in the sky

2010-03-04 Thread Greg Stanley

Any more information on this one?

Greg S.


http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/event/article/id/161921/


Northland residents report flaming object in the sky



Several Northland residents reported seeing a flaming object in the sky about 
7:15 p.m. Wednesday.

Audrey Monicken, who lives on Duluth’s Park Point, said she was watching 
television when she caught the sight.

“I saw a flaming thing come down out of the sky,” she said.

She described the object as about the size of a mattress with red flames, and 
said that it came down at an angle out of the sky. From her vantage facing the 
harbor, Monicken said the object seemed to disappear in the middle of the bay.

Brad Wick, a public information officer for the Duluth Police Department, said 
dispatch received a handful of calls from people who reported a fiery object in 
the sky. One person thought an aircraft had crashed into the lake, but Wick 
said a call to the air traffic control tower at Duluth International Airport 
indicated there was no sign of an airplane in the area or in distress at the 
time of the sighting.

The Duluth Police Department also received an inquiry about a flaming object in 
the sky from the Cook County emergency dispatch.

The National Weather Service in Duluth also received a report from a Washburn 
County resident in the Spooner area, who described seeing a fireball that 
traversed the horizon about the same time Wednesday night.

Tom Lonka, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service, said it’s 
possible the two reports could be explained by a meteorite or a piece of “space 
junk,” such as an old satellite, entering the Earth’s atmosphere. He said such 
events are not that rare, and the Weather Service receives occasional calls 
about similar sightings.
  
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Re: [meteorite-list] The Perils of Type Collecting - A Guide

2010-03-04 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Thanks to Carl, Katsu, Greg, Martin, and everyone else who provided
corrections and input on this list.  I have made corrections and the
revised list is presented below :

Carbonaceous Chondrites :

CI (Ivuna)
CM1 (Mighei)
CM2 (subdivided into CM2.0 to CM2.6)
CM3
CO3 (Ornans) (subdivided into CO3.03 to CO3.7)
CV (Vigarano) (also CV2 and CV3)
CK (Karoonda) (CK4, CK5, CK6)
CR (Renazzo) (CR1, CR2, CR3)
CB (Bencubbin)
CH
CR ungrouped
C4 ungrouped
C ungrouped


Ordinary Chondrites :

Rumuruti R3 (subdivided into R3.5-6 to R3.9)
R4
R5
R6

LL (subdivided into LL3.0 to LL3.9)
LL4
LL5
LL5/6
LL6
LL6/7
LL7
LL impact melt

LL transitional (L/LL3 to L/LL6)
L (subdivided into L3.0 to L3.9)
L4
L5
L6
L6/7
L7
L impact melt

H/L transitional (H/L3 to H/L6 IMB, H/L3.6 to H/L3-4)
H (subdivided into H3.0 to H3.9)
H4
H5
H6
H7
H impact melt

ungrouped ordinary chondrites


Enstatite Chondrites :

EL (EL3 to EL7)
EL impact melt
EH/L
EH (EH3 to EH7)
EH impact melt
ungrouped enstatite chondrites

K (Kakangari)

Meta-chondrites (M-CV, M-CR, M-H, M-LL)


Primitive Chondrites :

Acapulcoite
Lodranite
Winonaites
ungrouped primitive chondrites


Achondrites :

Howardite (subdivided into fragmental breccia and regolith breccia)
Eucrite (monomict and polymict with each having subclasses)
Diogenite (monomict and polymict)
Olivine Diogenite
Dunite
Ureilite (monomict and polymict)


Martian achondrites :

Shergottite
Pyroxene-phyric basaltic shergottite
Olivine-phyric basaltic shergottite
Olivine-orthopyroxene-phyric basaltic shergottite
Pyroxene-peridotitic (Wehrlitic) shergottite
Lherzolitic shergottite
Diabasic shergottite

Nakhlite
Chassignite
Orthopyroxenite (ALH 84001)


Lunar Achondrites :

Feldspathic breccias
Regolith breccia
Fragmental breccia
Impact melt breccia
Granulitic breccia
Mafic-rich
Thorium-rich
KREEP-rich

Mingled Breccia
Mare Basalt


Other Achondrites :

Angrites (Plutonic and Basaltic)
Brachinite
Aubrite
ungrouped achondrites (Ibitira, Pasamonte, etc)


Stony-Irons :

Mesosiderites (1A,1B,2A,2B,2C,3A,3B,4A,4B)
ungrouped mesosiderites

Pallasites (Main Group, Eagle Station group, Pyroxene group)
Pallasite-am (anomalous, PMG-am, PMG-as)
ungrouped pallasites


Iron meteorites :

Note, iron meteorites are a can of worms. I will only focus on the
main chemical groups, and not the various grouplets and sub-types of
each main chemical group. Also note that many of these types include
silicated varities. Listing all of the known sub-types of irons would
require a LONG list resembling a flow-chart.

IAB
IC
IIAB
IIC
IID
IIE
IIF
IIG
IIIAB
IIIE
IIIF
IVA
IVB
ungrouped irons

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On 3/4/10, Katsu OHTSUKA  wrote:
> CM2 (Mighei-type)
>
> Katsu
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Greg Stanley" 
> To: ; ;
> ; 
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Perils of Type Collecting - A Guide
>
>
>>
>> Murchison is a CM2
>>
>> Greg S.
>>
>> 
>>> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:12:20 -0500
>>> From: cdtuc...@cox.net
>>> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; damoc...@yahoo.com;
>>> meteoritem...@gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Perils of Type Collecting - A Guide
>>>
>>> Good list,
>>> missing is the division between
>>> CBa Buencubbin
>>> CBb HAH 237
>>> CK3
>>> and Tagish lake is not ungrouped but I think is a C2.
>>> --
>>> Carl or Debbie Esparza
>>> Meteoritemax
>>>
>>>
>>>  Richard Kowalski  wrote:
 Thanks a lot Mike.

 I thought I had pretty much completed my type set a few months ago, but
 now I see that I'm missed a few gradations that maybe I should pay
 attention to.

 I think, for budgetary and sanity sake, I'll have to be selective in how

 fine my divisions are than to try to get every sub-type you mention!

 --
 Richard Kowalski
 Full Moon Photography
 IMCA #1081


 --- On Wed, 3/3/10, Galactic Stone & Ironworks  wrote:

> From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks
> Subject: [meteorite-list] The Perils of Type Collecting - A Guide
> To: "Meteorite List"
> Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 4:18 PM
> Greetings Listees and fellow
> collectors,
>
> To the veteran collector, there will be little of interest
> in this
> post.  This post is directed at the silent newbie or
> beginner lurkers
> who are sorting through this List and trying to find their
> way around
> the world of collecting meteorites.
>
> Many new collectors often want one of each type of
> meteorite.  Many
> veteran collectors abandon this pursuit because the task is
> quite
> daunting.   So when you hear talk about
> "type collecting", or building
> a "type collection", what exactly does that mean?  I
> hope the
> following brief article will answer those questions, or at
> least point
> the reader in the right general direction.  Note, I
> gleaned much of
> this type information from

[meteorite-list] Way To Go Count!!!!!!!!!!

2010-03-04 Thread meteoriteman

That's amazing! What are the odds on that happening!? Maybe you should spend a 
day in Vegas! Congratulations!

Jim K
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[meteorite-list] Way To Go Count!!!!!!!!!!

2010-03-04 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum

Greetings Count:

I must say I was impressed by the Romanesque mosaic on your summer home 
basement floor,  and the fact that your dad was once  married to Mae West, 
but this historical find is truly and amazingly impressive!  Pound for 
pound, so far for this year, you're one of the top meteorite hunters in the 
world!  Thanks for sharing your find with those of us who can only dream of 
such a thing!   Again, kudos and congrats on your incredible find.


Phil Whitmer 


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[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - March 4, 2010

2010-03-04 Thread michael
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_4_2010.html


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[meteorite-list] Really Impressive Count!

2010-03-04 Thread Michael Groetz
   I've searched for years in Ohio (which is a double whammy to
finding something) and would be more than pleased with a few grams.
   You found one weighing in pounds! I wouldn't cut it up or part with
that for anything.
   Congratulations Count. Remember you need to spend some time at home
also rather than out in the field...
Mike
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Re: [meteorite-list] I hate Count (Guido) Diero ! : )

2010-03-04 Thread Meteorites USA

AWESOME! Congratulation to Guido on a fabulous find!

Great Job!

Regards,
Eric Wichman


On 3/3/2010 6:30 PM, wahlpe...@aol.com wrote:

Hi List,

I bet you could call this beginners luck. I took Guido out meteorite 
hunting. I turned left and he turned right.  To check out what he 
found scroll to the bottom of the meteorite hunts page. More to come 
later.


http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/METEORITE_HUNTS.html

Sonny

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[meteorite-list] AD - NWA 6043, New very rare CR2 For sale !!

2010-03-04 Thread Carsten Giessler


Dear List,

i'm very glad to introduce our recently new classified meteorite,
NWA 6043. It's a very rare carbonaceous chondrite, a new CR2!!
There are not much words needed to tell how rare this kind of material is.

Now we have some slices for sale, if you are interested please take a look
here:

http://www.gi-po.de/ebayfolder/6043%20list/6043sale.html

Enjoy!

Best regards,

Carsten

Ps.: If you are interested, please contact me off-list.

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email: c-giess...@gi-po.de

Member of the Meteoritical Society
International Society for Meteoritics and Planetary Science

IMCA Member:3457
International Meteorite Collectors Association

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Re: [meteorite-list] I hate Count (Guido) Diero ! : )

2010-03-04 Thread Robert Woolard
Sonny and Count,

   First, thanks to Sonny for sharing this exciting news with us all. I Love to 
see pictures of people finding meteorites ( well... mostly when its pictures of 
ME finding meteorites ... but this is the next best thing !    ;-)  Also thanks 
to Sonny for helping to give a fellow meteorite lover an increased chance to 
experience that thrill of discovery. 

   Second, although I've never had the pleasure of meeting you, Count, its 
obvious from all the nice comments about you from ALL these posts about you and 
your find, that it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. A great big CONGRATS 
from me as well, and I look forward to hopefully having the pleasure of meeting 
you some day soon.

  Good luck in all future hunts! You're off to a GREAT start!

  Best wishes,
  Robert Woolard


   --- On Wed, 3/3/10, wahlpe...@aol.com  wrote:

> From: wahlpe...@aol.com 
> Subject: [meteorite-list] I hate Count (Guido) Diero !   : )
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 8:30 PM
> Hi List,
> 
> I bet you could call this beginners luck. I took Guido out
> meteorite hunting. I turned left and he turned right. 
> To check out what he found scroll to the bottom of the
> meteorite hunts page. More to come later.
> 
> http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/METEORITE_HUNTS.html
> 
> Sonny
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[meteorite-list] Fwd: Way To Go Count!!!!!!!!!!

2010-03-04 Thread Darryl Pitt



i smiled and was intrigued upon seeing a stack of emails with subject  
lines  "i hate the count"  or "way to go count."


wow.  that's fantastic.

hearty congratulations, count

well done, sonny

;-)



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From: "al mitt" 
Date: March 4, 2010 8:55:23 AM EST
To: 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Way To Go Count!!

Hi Count,

I don't hate you at all and may your next find be twice as big and a  
thousand times more rare!!


Congratulations!

--AL Mitterling

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Re: [meteorite-list] Way To Go Count!!!!!!!!!!

2010-03-04 Thread Carl 's

Congratulations Count!!! Awesome find,indeed!

Carl2


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Way To Go Count!!!!!!!!!!

2010-03-04 Thread al mitt

Hi Count,

I don't hate you at all and may your next find be twice as big and a 
thousand times more rare!!


Congratulations!

--AL Mitterling 



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Re: [meteorite-list] Way To Go Count!!!!!!!!!!

2010-03-04 Thread ensoramanda
Just fantastic Guido,

I felt like jumping around the kitchen and celebrating out out here in the UK.
Never got to meet you this year in Tucson...perhaps next time or in Ensisheim?

Congratulations,

Graham E, Nr Barwell UK

 countde...@earthlink.net wrote: 
> Can you imagine the feelings that course through you when your on your first 
> full day of hunting after 10 months of study and you have to dig with your 
> hands to unearth this 28 pounder? Your first meteorite? I almost messed 
> myself. I am emboldened now to say that I have graduated and I, for one, will 
> no longer refer to myself as a newbie.
> 
> My best wishes to everyone who shares the obsession with these visitors from 
> space. Thank you Sonny.  
> 
> Guido 
> 
> -Original Message-
> >From: Rob Wesel 
> >Sent: Mar 3, 2010 9:45 PM
> >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, wahlpe...@aol.com
> >Subject: [meteorite-list] Way To Go Count!!
> >
> >Holy cow!
> >
> >Nice one guys and to The CountIs it in the city limits?
> >
> >Really nice find, congratu-frickin-lations. Must have been something to find 
> >that peak and have to keep digging and digging and digging
> >
> >Rob Wesel
> >www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
> >www.facebook.com/nakhladog
> >--
> >We are the music makers...
> >and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
> >Willy Wonka, 1971
> >
> >
> >- Original Message - 
> >From: 
> >To: 
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 6:30 PM
> >Subject: [meteorite-list] I hate Count (Guido) Diero ! : )
> >
> >
> >> Hi List,
> >>
> >> I bet you could call this beginners luck. I took Guido out meteorite 
> >> hunting. I turned left and he turned right.  To check out what he found 
> >> scroll to the bottom of the meteorite hunts page. More to come later.
> >>
> >> http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/METEORITE_HUNTS.html
> >>
> >> Sonny
> >>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Way To Go Count!!!!!!!!!!

2010-03-04 Thread Matthias Bärmann

Dog & Count, both smiling proudly, allied in cosmic spirit -

- what an incredible premiere-find: the meteoritical knightly accolade 
(which I'm still waiting for :-(


Congratulations!

Matthias


- Original Message - 
From: "Alexander Seidel" 
To: ; ; 
; 

Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Way To Go Count!!


That´s fabulous, Count! You are da bomb! :-)

Best,
Alex
Berlin/Germany



 Original-Nachricht 

Datum: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 23:14:45 -0500 (EST)
Von: countde...@earthlink.net
An: Rob Wesel , 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, wahlpe...@aol.com

Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Way To Go Count!!



Can you imagine the feelings that course through you when your on your
first full day of hunting after 10 months of study and you have to dig 
with
your hands to unearth this 28 pounder? Your first meteorite? I almost 
messed

myself. I am emboldened now to say that I have graduated and I, for one,
will no longer refer to myself as a newbie.

My best wishes to everyone who shares the obsession with these visitors
from space. Thank you Sonny.

Guido

-Original Message-
>From: Rob Wesel 
>Sent: Mar 3, 2010 9:45 PM
>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, wahlpe...@aol.com
>Subject: [meteorite-list] Way To Go Count!!
>
>Holy cow!
>
>Nice one guys and to The CountIs it in the city limits?
>
>Really nice find, congratu-frickin-lations. Must have been something to
find
>that peak and have to keep digging and digging and digging
>
>Rob Wesel
>www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
>www.facebook.com/nakhladog
>--
>We are the music makers...
>and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
>Willy Wonka, 1971
>
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: 

>To: 
>Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 6:30 PM
>Subject: [meteorite-list] I hate Count (Guido) Diero ! : )
>
>
>> Hi List,
>>
>> I bet you could call this beginners luck. I took Guido out meteorite
>> hunting. I turned left and he turned right.  To check out what he found
>> scroll to the bottom of the meteorite hunts page. More to come later.
>>
>> http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/METEORITE_HUNTS.html
>>
>> Sonny
>>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Way To Go Count!!!!!!!!!!

2010-03-04 Thread Alexander Seidel
That´s fabulous, Count! You are da bomb! :-)

Best,
Alex
Berlin/Germany



 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 23:14:45 -0500 (EST)
> Von: countde...@earthlink.net
> An: Rob Wesel , meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, 
> wahlpe...@aol.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Way To Go Count!!

> Can you imagine the feelings that course through you when your on your
> first full day of hunting after 10 months of study and you have to dig with
> your hands to unearth this 28 pounder? Your first meteorite? I almost messed
> myself. I am emboldened now to say that I have graduated and I, for one,
> will no longer refer to myself as a newbie.
> 
> My best wishes to everyone who shares the obsession with these visitors
> from space. Thank you Sonny.  
> 
> Guido 
> 
> -Original Message-
> >From: Rob Wesel 
> >Sent: Mar 3, 2010 9:45 PM
> >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, wahlpe...@aol.com
> >Subject: [meteorite-list] Way To Go Count!!
> >
> >Holy cow!
> >
> >Nice one guys and to The CountIs it in the city limits?
> >
> >Really nice find, congratu-frickin-lations. Must have been something to
> find 
> >that peak and have to keep digging and digging and digging
> >
> >Rob Wesel
> >www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
> >www.facebook.com/nakhladog
> >--
> >We are the music makers...
> >and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
> >Willy Wonka, 1971
> >
> >
> >- Original Message - 
> >From: 
> >To: 
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 6:30 PM
> >Subject: [meteorite-list] I hate Count (Guido) Diero ! : )
> >
> >
> >> Hi List,
> >>
> >> I bet you could call this beginners luck. I took Guido out meteorite 
> >> hunting. I turned left and he turned right.  To check out what he found
> >> scroll to the bottom of the meteorite hunts page. More to come later.
> >>
> >> http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/METEORITE_HUNTS.html
> >>
> >> Sonny
> >>
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Re: [meteorite-list] I hate Count (Guido) Diero ! : )

2010-03-04 Thread W&S Schroer
From the other side of the world a big congrats to you, Guido. Keep up the 

good work.

Werner 


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