Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see

2010-03-17 Thread Greg Hupe
Hi GregC and List, GregC wrote, Its really bad, will cause the buyers to pay more due to sellers marking up price to match the new cut ebay wants. Respectfully, I do not agree with this comment. If sellers are willing to eat pay more overhead through eBay's greed, how can buyers go wrong

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see

2010-03-17 Thread Greg Catterton
You mean by looking here? http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvaultQQhtZ-1 I would agree, but the final value fees have increased a good amount also. You will be paying a good deal more for the final amount it sells for which is never the .99 its starts at. Unless the bid prices increase,

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see

2010-03-17 Thread Richard Kowalski
--- On Tue, 3/16/10, Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net wrote: Respectfully, I do not agree with this comment. If sellers are willing to eat pay more overhead through eBay's greed, how can buyers go wrong with great items that start at 99 cents? Best regards, Greg I have to agree with Greg here.

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see

2010-03-17 Thread Greg Hupe
Its a great time for buyers however. How true it is! Hope everyone gets the great deals they are after! - Original Message - From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:17 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see

2010-03-17 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Eric, List, Craigslist is a privately held company. eBay purchased a block of shares in Craigslist from an individual share- holder and got a seat on the Craigslist board. After eBay launched their own free classified service to compete with Craigslist, the Craigistas tossed them off the board

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see

2010-03-17 Thread Walter Branch
Greg (Hupe)- how can buyers go wrong with great items that start at 99 cents? Because from a buyers point-of-view it doesn't matter where an auction starts, it matters where it ends. Besides, many auctions, including many of yours, do not start at 99 cents. -Walter - Original Message

[meteorite-list] Lunar Rover Found

2010-03-17 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Not ours -- theirs. The tracks of the Lunokhod 2 lunar rover have been found in photos taken by NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO). The Russian rover covered 35 kilometers (a record) before dirt in its radiator made it overheat and die. There's a photo of the tracks (and the full

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see

2010-03-17 Thread Meteorites USA
The only reason Ebay ever bought a 25% share of the company (seat on the board) was because they wanted an edge. Keep your enemies closer.. I hope Craigslist rips them a new one! Ooh, can I say that on here? ;) Ebay is a greedy pig of a company, and it's OBVIOUS to anyone with half a brain

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see

2010-03-17 Thread Greg Hupe
Walter, I am definitely not trying to start a Pro-eBay war here. I simply did not agree with GregC's specific comment. Everyone here knows everyone sets some auction items with a higher start price than 99 cents, I am no different (neither are you). No big deal... As Richard pointed out, it

[meteorite-list] Exploring Meteorite Mysteries

2010-03-17 Thread Meteorites USA
Awesome! Exploring Meteorite Mysteries A Teacher's Guide with Activities for Earth and Space Sciences http://www.compadre.org/precollege/items/detail.cfm?ID=9887 published by the NASA Johnson Space Center: Astromaterials Research

Re: [meteorite-list] Scale Cubes [WAS: Ad Announcing the Count cube Scale / Orientation cube

2010-03-17 Thread Mexicodoug
Hi Martin, Your estimates give an average density of 7.54 g/cm3 (7.54 ton/m3) for the whole kit and kaboodle. That's about 93 cubic meters of 'rites which compacted, theoretically makes a cube with a sides of 4.5 meters. That is double the size of my bedroom ... just to find an adamant

[meteorite-list] Summary Paper About Scandinavian Impact Structures

2010-03-17 Thread Paul H.
Dear Friends, There is an interesting summary paper about Scandinavian impact structures that downloaded as a PDF file. It even has a mps of recognized impact structures in Scandinavia and discusses the fossil meteorites found in the Thorsberg Quarry, southern Sweden, and K-T boundary at

[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - March 17, 2009

2010-03-17 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_17_2010.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Exploring Meteorite Mysteries

2010-03-17 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Eric and List, Here is a downloadable PDF copy of the manual. http://www.outofthecradle.net/archives/2007/05/exploring-meteorite-mysteries/ I own a hard-copy of this book, and I agree that it's a great resource for outreach/education. Best regards, MikeG On 3/17/10, Meteorites USA

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see

2010-03-17 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi List, Fleabay has been a hell for sellers and a heaven for buyers for a long time now. I have stopped 99% of my selling on eBay because I can sell the same items on my own website for zero fees. But, I still buy stuff on eBay, including supplies like gemjars, bubble mailers, shipping boxes,

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see

2010-03-17 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
A typo in my last post that confused the meaning : It's just another anonymous row of quasi-retail storefronts and you can even identify the other shoppers standing next to you while you are shopping. It should have read : you can NOT even identify the other shoppers standing next to you.

Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - March 17, 2009

2010-03-17 Thread Alexander Seidel
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_17_2010.html Way to go, Dave G! We need more of this, also on this side of the Big Pond, and elsewhere... Alex Berlin/Germany __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html

[meteorite-list] California Meteor March 15th, 2010

2010-03-17 Thread Mike Hankey
I saw this a few posts on twitter about this today. Have not seen this posted to the list yet. blobrana : Californian meteor: At 5:13 PDT, 15th March, 2010, a bright fireball broke-up west of Yuba City, California. http://bit.ly/cEZepB __ Visit the

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see+ My personal e-Bay AD

2010-03-17 Thread John higgins
Hello everyone! Since were talking about e-Bay, Please come take a look, I have auctions started @ .99 with free shipping! There are plenty of cool meteorites including my New NWA 6077 with provisional classification as a Ultra Rare Brachinite, also New, provisionally classified NWA 6080 a

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see

2010-03-17 Thread meteoriteman
It seems that the solution to these high ebay fees is a no brainer. With so many meteorite dealers on the met-list, all of you should get together and have your auctions on a new site. An existing site or create your own. Possibly create a Meteorite Dealers Association that runs it and keeps

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see

2010-03-17 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Jim, It's been tried before, most recently Eric W. tried it. (if memory serves me correctly) The problem is, many meteorite dealers are very competitive with each other, and I think if a dealer owns/runs the auction site, some other dealers will avoid it - no matter who that dealer/owner is.

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see

2010-03-17 Thread Mike Bandli
This auction site already exists and has been around for a long time. Best of all, there are zero fees. There is also a section for meteorites: www.Astro-Auction.com Though used mostly for space memorabilia, I believe an effort to move meteorite folks over there could be done. The only problem I

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see

2010-03-17 Thread Greg Stanley
All: I found this interesting. http://online-auction-sites.toptenreviews.com/ Greg S. Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:25:38 -0400 From: meteoritem...@gmail.com To: meteorite...@comcast.net CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re:

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see+ My personal e-Bay AD

2010-03-17 Thread John higgins
Hi Dirk, Temporarily, I have a few of the new NWA 6077 Brachinite images hosted @ one of my websites www.outerspacerocks.com please note: 6.5g, 2.4g, 3.94g, are sold. Thanks! John Higgins From: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com To: John higgins

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see+ My personal e-Bay AD

2010-03-17 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi John, That's a great looking Brachinite. Nice job on the cutting and preparation. :) Best regards, MikeG On 3/17/10, John higgins geohigg...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Dirk, Temporarily, I have a few of the new NWA 6077 Brachinite images hosted @ one of my websites

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 6077

2010-03-17 Thread Rob Lenssen
please note: 6.5g, 2.4g, 3.94g, are sold. And I'm the lucky new owner :-) John got himself a great rare stone here! Rob - Original Message - From: John higgins geohigg...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 6:33 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see

2010-03-17 Thread Walter Branch
Hi Mike, For years I was the only meteorite seller at Astro Auction Kim Poor (the site administrator) asked me to bring more meteorite business to the site. I can't tell you how much Canyon Diablo I sold there. I informed a few dealers Astro Auction a few years ago but they never took

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see

2010-03-17 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Walt and List, I'll check out Astro-Auctions - I'm always looking for new areas to expand the Galactic Stone empire into. I've never heard of it until now. I must have been under a rock. Just don't list anything on AstroMart - to put this nicely, the owner is like Tony Soprano and treats

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see

2010-03-17 Thread meteoriteman
Hi Walter, I agree 100% with you. At least 50% of the meteorite listings on ebay come from the people on this forum. If they can put there differences and ego's aside long enough to agree on an auction site, it would be to there benefit. The ebay meteorite buyers would find the new auction

[meteorite-list] ISO - Canyon Diablo needed

2010-03-17 Thread Greg Catterton
Hi to everyone! I would like to get a nice Canyon Diablo sample that is 200g or more. I currently only have a small one and want to be able to show a nicer sized one along with pictures of the crater. The small one is nice, but is missing the wow factor that a larger sample would offer. With

[meteorite-list] Fwd: (meteorobs) Two Bright Fireballs

2010-03-17 Thread Mike Hankey
fyi regarding the Mississippi California fireballs. -- Forwarded message -- From: Robert Lunsford lunro.imo@cox.net Date: Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:34 PM Subject: (meteorobs) Two Bright Fireballs To: meteor...@meteorobs.org Numerous sightings of two recent fireballs have been

Re: [meteorite-list] QUESTION RE METEORITES AND POP CULTURE

2010-03-17 Thread Greg Stanley
May be a little late, but I thought of this thread when I saw this. Take a look - perhaps a movie will be made. Greg S.

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see

2010-03-17 Thread Meteorites USA
Hi Walter, List, No matter how much time and effort you put into building it, they will NOT come to any site like they do to Ebay, unless... Perhaps the best way is free, fast, secure, it has to have the base and it needs to be easy. Ebay didn't just start from a website, there was money

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see

2010-03-17 Thread Walter Branch
Eric I think you missed my point. I am not advocating building a new website to compete with ebay. I am talking about using resources that are already in place. I don't want to create a new ebay or an ebay competitor. But answer this question, if you would please. What would it hurt if a

[meteorite-list] Need free Lunar micro

2010-03-17 Thread DEBORAH ANNE K. MARTIN
Good day all, I received a rather unusual phone call at work (I work in a planetarium) yesterday: a 10 year old boy suffered a unspecified family trauma and getting him to speak (mother tongue is French) is practically impossible. However, a writer and social activist, the lady who called,

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see

2010-03-17 Thread Meteorites USA
Hi Walter, Understood, but I was simply being more general on purpose. Where do you advertise. Not all meteorite people will flock to one particular site. With the myriad of other sites out there, to get the reach that ebay provides you'd have to list your items for sale on ALL of the

[meteorite-list] $122.23 per gram

2010-03-17 Thread Richard Kowalski
The 7.67g full slice of Whetstone Mountains that was on ebay sold for $935. Including the cost of shipping, that works out to be $122.23 per gram. I usually don't pay too much attention to the price for new falls, but this seems to be less than what I was expecting considering how much interest

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see Work Around

2010-03-17 Thread valparint
What if a seller sold an option to buy instead of the item itself? For example, suppose you have a meteorite that you expect to go for $1,000. You create a nice certificate, suitable for framing, that says the winner can buy your meteorite at 10 times the price paid for the certificate. Then,

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see Work Around

2010-03-17 Thread Meteorites USA
Unfortunately this would not work because it seems they've thought of everything... Everything to limit the seller anyway. ...You can’t refer to or promote your personal website (including links to home page web addresses that promote outside-of-eBay websites), sales outside of eBay, or other

Re: [meteorite-list] $122.23 per gram

2010-03-17 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Richard and List, That's not a bad price for an OC. :) Best regards and clear skies, MikeG On 3/17/10, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote: The 7.67g full slice of Whetstone Mountains that was on ebay sold for $935. Including the cost of shipping, that works out to be $122.23 per

[meteorite-list] $122.23 per gram

2010-03-17 Thread Shawn Alan
Hello Richard and List,   The Whetstone Mountains slice that sold for $935 at 7.67g seem like a good price to me and the seller did well on eBay. What I know so far about the Whetstone Mountains meteorite is that its an H5 and the KTW to date is 2.14 kg. Lastly, Has there been any discoveries

[meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-17 Thread Richard Kowalski
This mentality, waiting until the last few seconds before bidding, is something I just don't get. Maybe someone can explain it to me. I bid for lots on ebay just like I do when I bid at a real auction. I set in my head what I believe the value of an item and what I have available in my budget

Re: [meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-17 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Richard, I think, but I'm not sure, the reason for sniping is because if you bid early on an item, you are encouraging action. As a buyer, if you want the item at the lowest price possible, then you don't want a lot of bidding action going on. One way to accomplish that is to bid on the item

Re: [meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-17 Thread Walter Branch
Hi Richard, You wrote, It'd be pretty simple. Any bids that occur within one minute of the closing time of the auction automatically resets the end time by 10 minutes, or 30 minutes Interestingly, the Astro Auctions website I and others mentioned earlier has exactly that format. -Walter

Re: [meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-17 Thread Starsinthedirt
Hi Richard and List, I agree with your solution but not your objection to sniping within the framework that is eBay. Ebay has set up a situation where it is the smart thing to do. As you suggest, if no item will officially end within even just one minute from the time the last bid was

Re: [meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-17 Thread Richard Kowalski
Thanks Tom I'm glad I posted this thread. I had no idea that there are software packages that would do snipe automatically. Ebay has to have to have some financial benefit to THEM to allow this nonsense, otherwise they wouldn't allow it. Seems to me it would be more profitable for them to

[meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-17 Thread Shawn Alan
Hello Listers, My understanding with bidding on eBay is if your the top bidder you win. If you use a spiner program you don't win unless your the top bidder. Spiner programs make it easy for you to put your bid in and leave and not worry about sitting at the computer and waisting time while

Re: [meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-17 Thread John.L.Cabassi
Wow, I suppose the internet is slowing up... Old age. I don't know why, but sometimes I can post and it comes up immediately. Sometimes I post and it comes back to me, but it doesn't go to the list. And other times, it just doesn't show up. Damn, I must be a bad boy. ;) Oh well, whatever. Cheers

Re: [meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-17 Thread Starsinthedirt
All I know is that people that use sniper programs are getting ripped off because eBay does the same thing for free. Shawn Alan I don't think you get it! Tom In a message dated 3/17/2010 7:15:51 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, photoph...@yahoo.com writes: Hello Listers, My understanding

Re: [meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-17 Thread John Hendry
Richard, I always use sniping services for bidding and my reasoning flawed or otherwise is as follows. There exists a category of bidders that do not bid their maximum and leave it at that, but like to continuously monitor the auction for the duration and outbid others when they lose highest bid.

Re: [meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-17 Thread John.L.Cabassi
G'Day All Interesting topic on eBay. Regardless of what you say, it's not going to change and somebody mentioned u-bid, that's the worst. Believe me, I've been there. As soon as it comes to the final time for the bid to end, the next person who bids, rejacks up the time for it to go on another 10

Re: [meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-17 Thread ensoramanda
It's just so simple to understand why sniping is likely to get you the best price...just an obvious thing to do! Just keep it quiet Tomthe less people that understand sniping the more bargains for us.. ;-) Graham starsinthed...@aol.com wrote: All I know is that people that use

Re: [meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-17 Thread John.L.Cabassi
Damn, that was quick! Only an hour later after I posted it. So I've worked out some questions. If I post them now, you should get them at the end of the month :-) Cheers John -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar Rover Found

2010-03-17 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:20:36 -0500, you wrote: Hi, Not ours -- theirs. Nope. Lord Britishes: http://science.slashdot.org/story/10/03/17/2143248/Lord-Britishs-Lost-Lunar-Rover-Found-After-37-Years __ Visit the Archives at

Re: [meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-17 Thread Jerry Flaherty
I have sniped and won and sniped and lost but I have and will continue to snipe whether it's effective or not. It's just a strategy one of many. Jerry flaherty -- From: John Hendry p...@pict.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:08 PM To:

[meteorite-list] eBay Sniping strategy

2010-03-17 Thread Matson, Robert D.
Sniping is simply a strategy that capitalizes on the fact that the vast majority of people are unlikely to monitor online auctions (of which they are a participant) in the closing minutes. As a result, whatever limit bid, X, the leading bidder has established can easily be trumped in the final

Re: [meteorite-list] eBay Sniping strategy

2010-03-17 Thread star_wars_collector
I agree. As explained, this will usually save buyer $ due to the other bidder not having time to cave in and say I want it bad enough to spend just a bit more and push final price up even though he will not win. A well timed snipe allows you the best bid amount for your max bid. Greg C.

Re: [meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-17 Thread Richard Kowalski
Thanks all. I now have a much better understanding all the way around... -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list

[meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-17 Thread Shawn Alan
Hello list again, I have been bidding and watching an item on eBay for the past few days and I wish I had gotton the 46g Norton Meteorite at $600 or so but that wasn't the case. Before I went down in the subway to go home I got on my phone to watch the clock tick on the eBay item I was wishing

Re: [meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-17 Thread Starsinthedirt
First you say All I know is that people that use sniper programs are getting ripped off because eBay does the same thing for free. Shawn Alan Then you saySo the morel to the story is, if you want the item, then you will do anything to get it. If this means you wait to the last

Re: [meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-17 Thread Mark Bowling
John, That has been my experience too.  I've seen people bid early, and then come back and keep bidding up and up (not the bid early with your max strategy).  And a few of them will wait till the last few minutes and in a frenzy, bid past what is reasonable (either because they don't know what

[meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-17 Thread Shawn Alan
Hi Tom, Tom, really. As for the insult, who did I insult? I remember saying that people are getting ripped off if they use a sniper company to bid for them, cause the last time I check, eBay does that for you automatically till they reach your maximum bid. And that's how it works on eBay,

Re: [meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-17 Thread Dave Myers
Hey Richard, My expertise is ART, moderan art Once at a online Auction. I seen a painting, That I knew was a $5,000.-$7,000. painting. The est. was only $100.-200. dollars, I knew this painting was placed in the wrong category at this auction. So, most people did not go into this category

Re: [meteorite-list] $122.23 per gram

2010-03-17 Thread Mark Bowling
Shawn, As far as I know, all that has been found is what is recorded in the Monograph and addendum.  Anybody know any different???  I'm curious to know more about the Galleta flat find(s?) too. Clear skies and happy hunting, Mark B. Sunburned from Gold Basin, AZ! - Original Message