[meteorite-list] New Meteorite Impact Publication

2010-09-08 Thread Dennis Miller
Hi Gang! Just received my September GSA Today magazine and they are advertising their August release of "Large Meteorite Impacts and Planetary Evolution IV". This new volume covers new impact structures and confirms others. Looks interesting, as to current impact cratering research. Be a good r

Re: [meteorite-list] Missouri "Round Rocks" are tektites?

2010-09-08 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Bill, All, Google-ing "Osceola round rocks" turned up the following: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weaubleau-Osceola_structure Excerpt: Round rocks of Osceola Long thought to be a glacial remnant, these conglomerate rocks are found in the area of Osceola. They are nearly perfectly round, a

Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - September 9, 2010

2010-09-08 Thread GERALD FLAHERTY
Sure does look "battered" On Sep 8, 2010, at 10:32 PM, Michael Johnson wrote: > http://www.rocksfromspace.org/September_9_2010.html > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list >

[meteorite-list] Missouri "Round Rocks" are tektites?

2010-09-08 Thread bill kies
http://cgi.ebay.com/FOSSIL-MATRIX-TEKTITE-ANCIENT-MO-METEORITE-CRATER-/140449841609? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@met

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 85, Issue 13

2010-09-08 Thread Steve Curry
As to the question of when, and by whom, Lunar meteorites will be recovered on the North American Continent, you might wish to review the following site, and then compare this work to the Lunar & Planetary Institute's "Lunar Sample Atlas" of those specimens returned by the Apollo 11, 12, 14, 15, 16

[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - September 9, 2010

2010-09-08 Thread Michael Johnson
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Re: [meteorite-list] Witnessed fall lunars?still no clear answere

2010-09-08 Thread GERALD FLAHERTY
Simple but true. Odds favor no witnesses! On Sep 8, 2010, at 12:17 PM, Martin Altmann wrote: > Hi > > Because the people weren't there, when and where they felt, to witness them. > > General fall rates are a topic for its own, they range in the discussion > from a few thousands up to 40,000 fal

Re: [meteorite-list] 2010 Denver Show

2010-09-08 Thread Bob Loeffler
Hi all, We also have the info on the COMETS website: http://www.peaktopeak.com/comets/ Regards, Bob Loeffler COMETS Field Trip Chairman and Webmaster North Jeffco Gem & Mineral Club (Arvada, CO USA) http://www.peaktopeak.com/njeffco/index.php Webmaster and Asst. Dealer Chairman Denver Gem an

[meteorite-list] Neat Flash-based impact simulator

2010-09-08 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Hi Listees, Here is another fun link to play around with - http://down2earth.eu/impact_calculator/ This goes into great detail showing the effects of various impactors, based on values you select. Best regards, MikeG -- --

[meteorite-list] NASA JSC Meteorite Compendium online

2010-09-08 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Hi Listees, For those of you who have not seen this before, check it out. NASA has an online database of it's Antarctic finds. You can browse them by type, read descriptions and view photos. It's very interesting and I spent about 2 hours last night clicking through them. There is a lot of goo

[meteorite-list] esquel for trade (AD)

2010-09-08 Thread steve arnold
Hi list. I have a 23 gram slice of esquel for trade if interested. I am looking for an individual of either,glorietta siderite, a taza, ZIZ, OR NWA 5549 silicated iron.If interested, pleae off list with pics please. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.m

Re: [meteorite-list] ASU suspends public meteorite identification program

2010-09-08 Thread dean bessey
As somebody who started a fee based classification service with Ray at Bathurst Observatory I can shed a little light on what it would actually take to get quick classifications done. Most (Many anyway) list members know that I started a classification service several years ago with Ray. Its not

[meteorite-list] Opportunity Rover Reaches Halfway Point of Long Trek

2010-09-08 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2010-292 Opportunity Rover Reaches Halfway Point of Long Trek Jet Propulsion Laboratory September 08, 2010 When NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity left Victoria Crater two years ago this month, the rover science team chose Endeavour Crater a

Re: [meteorite-list] Photo of alleged Columbia impact crater

2010-09-08 Thread Pete Pete
Hi, Mike and List, Here are two added perspectives: http://it.sohu.com/20091027/n267760581.shtml http://it.sohu.com/20091027/n267760581.shtml I did a quick "Tineye" reverse image search http://www.tineye.com/ and there were twenty-nine hits, mostly Asian. I didn't look past the first pa

[meteorite-list] Close Shave Asteroids

2010-09-08 Thread Mike Hankey
I read two asteroids came pretty close to earth today. http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/09/harvard_scienti_1.html Here's a video of one of them. http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/09/asteroid-animation-2/ in the first frame of the video, there's something to the left of t

Re: [meteorite-list] Columbia --> COLOMBIA

2010-09-08 Thread star_wars_collector
Its ok as long as we all know that Africa is not a country... Hope everyone is having a better day then me... Greg C Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed,

Re: [meteorite-list] Columbia --> COLOMBIA

2010-09-08 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Hi Elizabeth and List, I am guilty here. I apologize for the oversight. I must have had the space shuttle on my mind. Best regards, MikeG On 9/8/10, Elizabeth Warner wrote: > Actually, for Columbia, that jacket would not be out of place in the > winter... but I don't think you are talking a

[meteorite-list] Columbia --> COLOMBIA

2010-09-08 Thread Elizabeth Warner
Actually, for Columbia, that jacket would not be out of place in the winter... but I don't think you are talking about Columbia... As someone who grew up in Columbia (SC) and now lives near Columbia (MD), I wish people would get the name of the country right... It's COLOMBIA. Clear Skies! El

Re: [meteorite-list] ASU suspends public meteorite identification program

2010-09-08 Thread tracy latimer
Several years back, Dr. Garvie was kind enough to confirm that the 'meteorite' I had received from an ebay seller was in fact slag. I was 95% sure beforehand it was a meteorwrong, but it was good to have it confirmed. I'm sorry that the influx of manure has made it necessary for this benefit

Re: [meteorite-list] ASU suspends public meteorite identification program

2010-09-08 Thread Richard Kowalski
OK Eric, I'll grant you your $25 fee to give a meteorite a cursory glance to give an opinion. We all know both dealers, hunters and professional researchers who have had people insist that their stones are rare meteorites and we also all have heard stories of these same kinds people accuse the

Re: [meteorite-list] Photo of alleged Columbia impact crater

2010-09-08 Thread Chris Spratt
Meant to say Colombia. Chris Spratt Victoria, British Columbia (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/m

Re: [meteorite-list] ASU suspends public meteorite identification program

2010-09-08 Thread Yinan Wang
This might seem like an amateurish question; but where would I turn to now to have unidentified meteorites classified and not just identified? -Yinan On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Meteorites USA wrote: > Hi Richard, Great post, and points... I agree that the numbers won't work > when actually

Re: [meteorite-list] ASU suspends public meteorite identification program

2010-09-08 Thread Meteorites USA
Hi Richard, Great post, and points... I agree that the numbers won't work when actually 'classifying' meteorites, or even using a university lab to visually examine a suspect/possible meteorite. The small "fee" would be insignificant and not economically practical I understand for a university

Re: [meteorite-list] Photo of alleged Columbia impact crater

2010-09-08 Thread Chris Spratt
To my eyes the vegetation in the background looks wrong for Columbia. Also the woman is wearing an unsuitable coat for the tropics. My 2 cents. Chris Spratt Victoria, BC (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-l

Re: [meteorite-list] Photo of alleged Columbia impact crater

2010-09-08 Thread CMcdon0923
Or somebody's drug lab exploded...any white powdery residue left in the crater ?? -- Message: 9 Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:39:05 -0400 From: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" Subject: [meteorite-list] Photo of alleged Columbia impact crater To: Meteorite List M

[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - September 8, 2010

2010-09-08 Thread Ron Baalke
MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES September 8, 2010 o Glacier? http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_018857_2225 o Mantling Material on Crater Floor http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_001507_1400 o Scarp and Channels in a Crater in Terra Cimmeria http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_0019

[meteorite-list] UMD-Led Team Begins Imaging Comet Hartley 2 with Deep Impact Spacecraft

2010-09-08 Thread Ron Baalke
http://newsdesk.umd.edu/global/release.cfm?ArticleID=2224 September 8, 2010 Contact: Lee Tune +1 301-405-4679 lt...@umd.edu UMD-LED TEAM BEGINS IMAGING COMET HARTLEY 2 WITH DEEP IMPACT SPACECRAFT Images: http://epoxi.umd.edu/3gallery/Hartley2_first_light.shtml Some five years after its July 4

Re: [meteorite-list] Photo of alleged Columbia impact crater

2010-09-08 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
The only thing the "crater" in the photo is missing is shovel marks and heavy equipment tracks. And meteorites, and ejecta, and credibility. On 9/8/10, Richard Kowalski wrote: > Besides it being on the wrong side of the planet, and being much smaller > than claimed, one would expect to see s

Re: [meteorite-list] ASU suspends public meteorite identification program

2010-09-08 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Hi Richard and List, Excellent post. :) Of course, the best verification service with the lowest cost is this mailing list. If anyone out there has a suspect rock, they are free to share photos and a description with this list, and we will render a collective opinion. This opinion will rule o

[meteorite-list] Tally-Ho! Deep Impact Spacecraft Eyes Comet Target (Comet Hartley 2)

2010-09-08 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2010-291 Tally-Ho! Deep Impact Spacecraft Eyes Comet Target Jet Propulsion Laboratory September 08, 2010 On Sunday, Sept. 5, NASA's Deep Impact spacecraft beamed down the first of more than 64,000 images it's expected to take of Comet Hartley 2. Th

Re: [meteorite-list] Photo of alleged Columbia impact crater

2010-09-08 Thread Richard Kowalski
Besides it being on the wrong side of the planet, and being much smaller than claimed, one would expect to see some evidence of an ejecta blanket outside the perimeter rim. So as Ted mentioned, you need meteorites and ejecta both... -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081

Re: [meteorite-list] ASU suspends public meteorite identification program

2010-09-08 Thread Richard Kowalski
Eric, I'm not sure if you've "run the numbers" on what such a service would cost, but lets talk a few numbers, that I admit are essentially pulled out of thin air. Salary for a full time researcher, with no benefits, $35000 per year (and that's on the low side) Lab, minimum cost of $1000 per mo

Re: [meteorite-list] Photo of alleged Columbia impact crater

2010-09-08 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Somebody posted that on Facebook and said it was a photo of the Columbian crater. LOL I guess I need to go burst that person's bubble even further now. On 9/8/10, Mike Bandli wrote: > That's actually a photo of the Latvian hoax crater from this past year. > >

Re: [meteorite-list] Witnessed fall lunars?

2010-09-08 Thread Ted Bunch
Sterling - very well done, indeed. Ted Bunch On 9/8/10 11:39 AM, "Randy Korotev" wrote: > Dear Sterling: > > Thanks so much for that enlightening explanation! > > Randy Korotev > > > At 10:32 PM 2010-09-07 Tuesday, you wrote: >> Hi, Lunar Gang, and List, >> >> We have a situation here tha

Re: [meteorite-list] Photo of alleged Columbia impact crater

2010-09-08 Thread Mike Bandli
That's actually a photo of the Latvian hoax crater from this past year. -- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 --- -

Re: [meteorite-list] Photo of alleged Columbia impact crater

2010-09-08 Thread Ted Bunch
The proof is in the pudding, the pudding here is meteorite fragments/ejecta. Ted On 9/8/10 11:39 AM, "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" wrote: > Hi List, > > Here is a photo of the alleged impact crater caused by the recent > "meteorite fall" in Columbia. > > http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj2

Re: [meteorite-list] Witnessed fall lunars?

2010-09-08 Thread Randy Korotev
Dear Sterling: Thanks so much for that enlightening explanation! Randy Korotev At 10:32 PM 2010-09-07 Tuesday, you wrote: Hi, Lunar Gang, and List, We have a situation here that needs straightening out. Escaping from the Moon is one thing. Getting to the Earth is another. Here's how it star

[meteorite-list] Photo of alleged Columbia impact crater

2010-09-08 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Hi List, Here is a photo of the alleged impact crater caused by the recent "meteorite fall" in Columbia. http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/columbia-crater.jpg Opinions? To me, it doesn't quite look right. Best regards, MikeG --

Re: [meteorite-list] ASU suspends public meteorite identification program

2010-09-08 Thread Meteorites USA
I would think a "paid" meteorite identification service might alleviate some of the burden of abuse. This would have a screening effect on those that would normally be adamant that their Earth rock is a meteorite even in the presence of evidence it's not. People that won't take no for an answer

Re: [meteorite-list] ASU suspends public meteorite identification program

2010-09-08 Thread Adam Hupe
Yes, it was just a matter of time. You can only tie up your resources looking at so many meteorite wrongs before it interferes with budget and time management. I no longer look at solicited/suspected meteorites from unknown parties for the same reasons. Most think their finds are going to make

Re: [meteorite-list] ASU suspends public meteorite identification program

2010-09-08 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Hi Laurence and List, This is sad news. I was about to mail you a big box of highly-weathered H-chondrites for classification. ;) Keep us updated on the new outreach program. :) Best regards, MikeG On 9/8/10, Laurence Garvie wrote: > The public Meteorite Identification Program hosted by

[meteorite-list] ASU suspends public meteorite identification program

2010-09-08 Thread Laurence Garvie
The public Meteorite Identification Program hosted by the Center for Meteorite Studies at Arizona State University has been suspended effective immediately (September 8th, 2010). We have had to suspend the program due to the substantial recent rise in demand as well as budget constraints and sta

[meteorite-list] Denver Attendees- Video Request

2010-09-08 Thread McCartney Taylor
I am working on two different video projects about meteorites. The first is Serious the second is FUN. Dealers - I am wanting to casually interview any and all meteorite dealers I can and ask some simple questions: 1. What makes collecting meteorites interesting or exciting? 2. What do you reco

Re: [meteorite-list] Witnessed fall lunars?still no clear answere

2010-09-08 Thread tracy latimer
It could just be dumb chance.  Most of the lunars found don't appear to have fallen recently.  We might be in a period when, for the couple of hundred years since meteorites started to be recognized for what they are, no lunars arrived where humans were in a position to witness their arrival.

Re: [meteorite-list] Witnessed fall lunars?still no clear answere

2010-09-08 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Because the people weren't there, when and where they felt, to witness them. General fall rates are a topic for its own, they range in the discussion from a few thousands up to 40,000 falls per year, where a nice stone is really dropped. And each year there are recovered from these thousands

Re: [meteorite-list] Witnessed fall lunars?still no clear answere

2010-09-08 Thread Adam Hupe
I think most of it comes from lack of recognition. Lunar meteorites do not seem to lose as much of their mass when entering the atmosphere so probably do not produce huge bolides. Chondrites, on the other hand generally burn up 90% or more, if they survive at all. For some reason, Martian mete

Re: [meteorite-list] Witnessed fall lunars?still no clear answere

2010-09-08 Thread Steve Dunklee
Hi everyone. You did a good job of thrashing my response without giving an answere to the original question. Why are there no lunar witnessed falls? DR kortev did say there are twice as many Martian impacts,which to me is a lot or many more. Another person questioned if they would have enough ve

[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - September 8, 2010

2010-09-08 Thread Michael Johnson
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Re: [meteorite-list] Shielding of the Moon by earth

2010-09-08 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Steve, >is either returns to the moon or sucked in by earths gravity in a relatively short time. Relatively to what? Just googling around I found transit times of the lunaites from Moon to Earth between a couple of tens of thousands of years up to 8 million years. The travelling times of man

Re: [meteorite-list] Shielding of the Moon by earth

2010-09-08 Thread Steve Dunklee
Most of the shielding is done by earths gravity well not its area. If mars had no atmosphere it would look battered like the moon. And most of the material knocked off the moon is either returns to the moon or sucked in by earths gravity in a relatively short time. Some day there may be a witnes

Re: [meteorite-list] Shielding of the Moon by earth

2010-09-08 Thread Rob Matson
Hi Melanie, > I see, but the other side of the moon does look a lot more > heavily cratered than that "shielded" by Earth... I suspect this has more to do with the relative ages of the surfaces than the cratering rates. Maria are nearly absent from the lunar farside, and the nearside Maria have e

Re: [meteorite-list] Shielding of the Moon by earth

2010-09-08 Thread Melanie Matthews
I see, but the other side of the moon does look a lot more heavily cratered than that "shielded" by Earth.. --- -Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. - Original Message From: Rob Matson To: