Re: [meteorite-list] Frederick, MD Meteorite claimed found and 2JAN2011 meteor

2011-01-03 Thread Mike Hankey
Thanks for sending this out Dirk.

Unfortunately you can't see the rocks very well in the picture and the
reporters don't provide much information about the circumstances etc.

Derik -- are you gonna check this guy out?

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:17 AM, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Dear List,
  Two news items:
 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/

 Frederick man claims to find meteor fragments
 Frederick News Post (subscription)
 By Meg Tully A man who witnessed a falling meteor last week says he has found 
 parts of it. Al LaBrush was walking out of Danielle's restaurant in Frederick 
 ...
 (Frederick, MD meteor; MA MD VA NY DC meteor 28DEC2010)


 Just Posted:

 Cumberland, Rhode Island Meteor Fireball 2JAN2011 11:50pm EST

 Happy New Year 2011!
 Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Re: [meteorite-list] RSVP re Another crazy bidder on ebay

2011-01-03 Thread Mary-Carol West
Please remove my email address.

On 1/2/11, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote:
 Michael, they did apologize already. They did not realize it was Geoff.

 Regards,
 Eric


 On 1/2/2011 7:38 PM, Michael Blood wrote:
 Don and Greg,
  You DO know the seller is Geoff Notkin, don't you? I can
 Only assume you do NOT know it is Geoff.
 Such speculation is ludicrous in this case. And very careless of
 You. Comments that would sullying someone's reputation are
 nothing to take lightly! Shame on you both for such comments
 Either you made these comments out of negligence in failing to note
 Who the seller is or FAR WORSE, you would dare to make such
 Remarks regarding Geoff.
  Please let us know if it is mere carelessness or actually an
 accusation regarding Geoff.
  Please, Speak out on this list - both of you - and not in a
 private
 post. Your comments were public and your response should be public.
  Sincerely, Michael Blood


 On 1/2/11 2:50 PM, GREG LINDHgee...@msn.com  wrote:


An Ebayer bidding on his own stuff.

Wow, there's a shocker.


Greg L.






 From: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com
 To: fuj...@mac.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:44:32 -0500
 CC: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay

 The fact that one individual bidder has 0 feedback and that many bids on
 one
 item in that span of time, leads me to feel that maybe a form of bid
 rigging
 is taken place. At least that's what would catch my eye and put my guard
 up.
 Now that the price is where the seller wants it, it would not surprise
 me
 that Mr. 0 feedback will not bid again. If I was the high bidder I would
 retract my bid this way Mr. 0 would be high bidder! I could be wrong on
 all
 this but I have seen this game before on several occasions.
 Here is a link to a news source in which an eBay bidder was arrested and
 charged with bidding on his own auctions because he said they were lower
 then expected...he even admits creating another account with name to do
 this
 bidding rigging!

 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267410/Ebay-seller-faces-fine-biddin
 g-items-raise-prices.html

 Sincerely
 Don Merchant
 IMCA #0960
 Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders
 http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/index.html

 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Fujiharafuj...@mac.com
 To: MeteorListmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 12:46 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay



 http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsitem=170585023324

 current bid is at $180 for a 2.3g complete oriented Bassikounou H5
 chondrite

 granted Geoff's offering is a pristine example of flight orientation of
 an
 OC, but would anybody in their right mind bid $79/g? FWIW, this 'new'
 guy
 has 0 feedback.

 Gary Fujihara
 Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693)
 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720
 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/
 http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html
 (808) 640-9161

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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale

2011-01-03 Thread Mary-Carol West
Please remove my email address.

On 1/2/11, Larry  Twink Monrad larrytwinkmon...@comcast.net wrote:
 From the Stephan collection:

 Yilmia  1.4 g.  EL6
 DAG 647 74. mg. AEUC
 NWA 001 1.4 g.  L6
 NWA   25.2 g. HOW
 NWA 4495  20.2 g. DIO
 Winona  3.9 g.  WIN
 NWA (Martian) 1.3 g.  Basaltic Shergottite
 NWA 2999 2.3 g.  ANG
 Itqiy  4.1 g.  EH7
 Davy (a) 36.7 g.  L4  (Nininger)
 Lemmon  43.4 g.  H5  (TCU Monnig)
 Ozona  24.3 g.  L6 (J.M. Dupont/from Nininger)
 NWA 1914  53.6 g.  HOW
 Haxtun  31.1 g.  H/L4
 Wichita Co. Texas 278.0 g.  found 1836 I|ABM
 NWA 2932  49.4 g.  MES
 NWA 1955  11.3 g.  H/L3-4
 Abee  236.0 g.  EH4
 D'Orbigny  63.7 g.  ANG
 Glorieta Mountain  1065.1 g.  PAL
 Gold Basin  125.2 g.  L4
 Isna 26.0 g.  CO3.8
 Dhofar 125  125.5 g.  ACAP.
 Stannern  7.0 g.  EUC
 Mundrabilla  95.1 g.  IAB

 All of these pieces are from well known dealers and collectors.
 Possible discount on  inquiry.  Please contact Twink Monrad
 larrytwinkmon...@comcast.net

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Re: [meteorite-list] Re-2: Another crazy bidder on ebay

2011-01-03 Thread Mary-Carol West
Pllease remove my email address.

On 1/2/11, Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote:
 Hello Jason, Hello List,

 Here's my assumption:

 I don't have to reiterate that this oriented piece is a beauty in its own
 right!
 Geoff, as some of you may know, is the administrator of CSR (Club Space
 Rock). You'll find a lot of enthusiastic, fervent, new collectors there who
 would gladly give almost anything just to call such an exquisite piece
 their
 own. Geoff informed his forum members that this spectacular, flight-oriented
 piece was on EBay without reserve.

 I personally think that someone who is new to collecting has eyes only
 (only
 in the positive connotation of the word) for the exotic beauty and rarity of
 this
 flight-oriented specimen with its frothy, fresh fusion crust and distinct
 roll-over
 lipping ... ... and: No, it's not me!

 Cheers,

 Bernd


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Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay

2011-01-03 Thread Notkin

Dear Listees:

New Year's greetings. I hope you all enjoyed the holiday weekend. I  
had a wonderful time up in Phoenix with my girlfriend.


About a year ago, Steve and I did a radio interview about our TV  
series for Slice of SciFi, which is based in Phoenix. I have since  
done two more interviews for the same station and became great friends  
with the hosts. They invited us up to their winter party and it was a  
blast. Science Fiction fans among you should definitely check out  
their show; it's outstanding (and very funny!):


http://www.sliceofscifi.com

As a result, I took the rather unusual step of not following my emails  
over the weekend, and came home to read all this business about my  
Ebay auction. So, here is the deal:


Both the high bidders are not only customers of mine, but also  
friends. One is an experienced collector and a very popular member of  
the community; the other is a new collector and also, fairly  
obviously, new to Ebay. If either party wishes to withdraw their bids  
on the Bassikounou, it's fine with me, and no hard feelings. I'm also  
happy to close the auction and start it again from scratch if either  
bidder requests that I do so. Further, if anyone still thinks there is  
anything questionable about this auction, please email me off-List and  
I will ask both bidder's permission to provide their names and email  
addresses and you can do your own verification.


Apologies from Don and Greg both accepted.

FYI: when someone makes an accusation on the List, not only does it go  
out to hundreds people around the world, but it also gets permanently  
archived in the Meteorite Central database. In other words, as long as  
the Internet is around there will now be a bunch of searchable posts  
linking my name and my Ebay auctions to accusations of shill bidding.  
That doesn't make me real happy, so it's maybe a good idea to do a  
little fact checking, and to think twice, before posting something  
inflammatory.


Anyway, to end on a positive note there is one really extraordinary  
offering among my current auctions and I invite you all to take a  
look. It is a 91.5-gram Sikhote-Alin shrapnel specimen with a superb  
impact pit. The pit has a well-formed splash rim and is 17 mm in  
diameter! I believe it is the second-largest impact pit I've ever seen  
on a Sikhote-Alin:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170585040150


And the rest of them are here:  http://shop.ebay.com/aerolitemeteorites/m.html



Regards to all,

Geoff N.
www.aerolite.org
www.meteoritemen.com


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Re: [meteorite-list] WG: Asian falls

2011-01-03 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Martin, All,
I'll address your entire message with a slightly different angle this time.

 some of the federal laws in Australia were even earlier in place.

Right.  Which supports my idea that the laws aren't what stopped the
meteorites from being found.

 The find numbers, correct me if I'm wrong, were produced mainly by
 official expeditions, two times Euromet (one of them at least hopelessly
 unsuccessful  Mundrabillas, Millbillillies, three OCs - stuff in a quantity
 a meteorite dealer would charge you today with 15-20k$) and one carried out
 by the school of mines.

You are unequivocally wrong.  If you go through the literature, you'll
note that at least half of the more recent Australian meteorites were
found, as I said in my last email, by natives, or at least by
scientists not on WAMET/EUROMET expeditions.

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1989Metic..24..135B

According to Bevan in his 1992 abstract on the WAMET/EUROMET
expedition, they recovered roughly 600 meteorites between 1992 and
1994.  It's important to note that most of the material found was
found prior to these expeditions, between 1986 and 1992.  And as best
I can tell, the 600 stone figure included paired finds, meaning that
they actually recovered fewer meteorites than that.

Bevan notes in 'Desert Meteorites: A History:'

An active collecting programme continues in the Western Australian
Nullarbor.  However, unusually high rainfall related to cyclonic
activity during the mid- to late 1990s, and the consequent
regeneration of vegetation caused a temporary cessation of collecting
activities.  Since about 1997, the onset of drier conditions has
reduced vegetation and returned parts of the Nullarbor to a condition
suitable for systematic searching.

I could stop here and say Here is your answer -- this is why
meteorites stopped being found in the early 1990's, but I'm guessing
you won't take Bevan's word for it.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/l0t783p802k561u6/fulltext.pdf

If you check out the above article dedicated to the subject, you'll
note that Bevan's claims are somewhat grounded, due to the three year
streak of above average cyclone activity around 1994 (at which point
the study ends, so it may have even been longer than that).

So I'll get to the rest of your message.

 15 published new finds for a whole continent with deserts, where the past
 proved, that they are very productive for meteorite finds - and that in THE
 decade, where the big harvest took place in the deserts of the African,
 Asian, and North-American continent,
 is very unsatisfying, especially in a country of such a long and in former
 times remarkable meteorite tradition.
 The problem is, that since the 1990ies, no serious meteorite expedition
 wasn't carried out anymore by universities there, as well as the basic work
 (see the 500 unclassified finds) was neglected.

On the one hand, I see what you're trying to say.  But in light of
Bevan's comments, you're left without a leg to stand on.  If
systematic hunting was rendered implausible due to increased levels of
vegetation, you can't sit here blaming Aussie scientists for not
mounting more expeditions because...

You have no evidence of *anything,* so going on and on about how
they're lazy on a list where they're not present to defend themselves
isn't quite a nice thing to do.

In light of that fact, I'm forwarding this thread to Alex Bevan
himself, to see if he'll chime in.

 So the Australian meteoricists fall short regarding the special meaning and
 status, the Aussie meteorites are given in Australian legislation.
 Consequently this legislation isn't tenable anymore.

If you break the above block into the three respective ideas it
contains, you get the following:
1) The scientists aren't doing the work they should be doing to
recover meteorites based on the legislation that has been enacted.
2) Therefore the law should be repealed.

I see two problems with this train of thought.  The first is that
you're implying that it is somehow an Australian meteoriticist's job
to recover meteorites because a law was passed that protected them as
national treasures.

That in itself is twisted reasoning.  Is it an archaeologist's job to
recover all Native American artifacts in the US as quickly as possible
because laws have protected them from being picked up by unqualified
people?

No.  Does that make the law somehow defunct?

I don't think so.

The second is that you're insinuation that the law should be repealed
because find rates have gone down.  The law was passed with no intent
of arresting or aiding the recovery of new meteorites in Australia.
It was passed in order to keep the as yet largely unexploited cache of
Australian meteorites from being exploited, as happened with
Morocco/Algeria/Oman.

In my opinion, a country has every right to exert laws over its
resources.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

 How meteorites are found, I think everyone of us here on the list knows, as
 well as those involved in 

[meteorite-list] New Years Resolutions ???

2011-01-03 Thread Shawn Alan
Hello Listers,
 
 
My New Years Resolutions:
 
Collect more meteorites (love historic ones)
Find a meteorite in the field ( that would be the icing on the cake)
and buy a meteorite book (thinking Catalogue of Meteorites). 
 
Whats your new years resolution?
 
Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633
eBaystore
http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html
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[meteorite-list] New Year Video off topic

2011-01-03 Thread cdtucson
List,
Off topic video but well worth a watch.
Happy New Year to all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x91rBzNKvlc

Carl
--
Carl or Debbie Esparza
Meteoritemax

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[meteorite-list] AD : CO3.4 NWA 6342, the twinn sister of Ornans

2011-01-03 Thread Fabien Kuntz
Hello, 

ending soon on ebay, the only slice available for now of my new CO3.4 : NWA 6352

This meteorite is exactly the same type and subtype than the Ornans meteorite, 
a 
realy fresh primary and secondary crusted,
oriented stone (Weathering grade W1!), the biggest CO3.4 after Ornans itself. 
Fun fact, I live in the city of Besançon, 20Km from the place where the Ornans 
meteorite fell in 1868!



Few pictures of the main mass : 

www.wwmeteorites.com/NWA6352.html



The link to the 26.51g crusted slice on ebay : 

http://cgi.ebay.com/NWA-6352-new-CO3-4-W1-Twin-sister-Ornans-Meteorite-/250747562933?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3a61b82bb5



Fabien



  
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[meteorite-list] METEORITE Magazine

2011-01-03 Thread David Pensenstadler
Listees:

It will now indeed be a very Happy New Year.  I received the November issue of 
METEORITE Magazine today!  

Dave


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE Magazine

2011-01-03 Thread Michael Groetz
List-
  I received mine today also and really appreciate it. Thank you to
the Meteorite magazine publishers. I hope everyone else expecting
receives theirs momentarily also.
Mike

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 5:00 PM, David Pensenstadler dfpen...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Listees:

 It will now indeed be a very Happy New Year.  I received the November issue 
 of METEORITE Magazine today!

 Dave



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[meteorite-list] BBC Stargazing Live appearance by Gary Fujihara

2011-01-03 Thread e-mail ensoramanda
Hi All, Gary,

Just to say congratulations Gary on your appearance tonight on the
beeb. Watched the new Stargazing Live show earlier tonight with links
to Hawaii. It was quite a shock to see you appear just after I had
mentioned your name. Great programme for those able to get it.

Graham UK.
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Re: [meteorite-list] BBC Stargazing Live appearance by Gary Fujihara

2011-01-03 Thread e-mail ensoramanda
Doubt there will be any Youtube links yet...it can be seen here...but
probably only in the UK unless someone knows a way round that.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00wnvpf

On 3 January 2011 23:42, Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is there a YouTube video link?  :)

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 On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:36 PM, e-mail ensoramanda
 ensorama...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 Hi All, Gary,

 Just to say congratulations Gary on your appearance tonight on the
 beeb. Watched the new Stargazing Live show earlier tonight with links
 to Hawaii. It was quite a shock to see you appear just after I had
 mentioned your name. Great programme for those able to get it.

 Graham UK.
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[meteorite-list] York meteor video 28DEC2010 now posted

2011-01-03 Thread drtanuki
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/01/meteor-over-york-pa-28dec2010-video.html
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[meteorite-list] I'm curious

2011-01-03 Thread J Sinclair
Hi Everybody.

I haven’t posted much on the list for the last several years. When I
was active, I think there were about 800 members. Now according to
Art, there are over 1300.
Amazing.

I have a couple of questions. I have some old meteorite stock (and
some recent material too) that I want to sell.

As Sellers
How are you most successful in moving inventory?  Is it by a website
or a list with “sale” prices or is it by auction with a low opening
bid and then hoping for the best?  Or, are there other options that
work well?

As Buyers
How do you most like to buy? Is it buying from a list or website with
fair (sale) prices or is it buying at auction and hoping to get a
really good deal?  Or, are there any other ways that work well for
you?

I just basically want to move some inventory I’ve had stashed and I’m
pondering the best way to do it for both buyer and seller. It's not a
fire sale but I like a “win–win” situation.

Thanks.
John Sinclair
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[meteorite-list] Frederick MD meteorites? shown

2011-01-03 Thread drtanuki
Seems to me that the guy is a nutcase with perhaps real meteorites from a 
different meteorite?

Anyone for Campo or CDs?

Frederick Man, Al LaBrush, Says He Saw Meteor 
2 hours ago - Al LaBrush is an astronomy buff who always wanted to see a meteor 
up close. He was having a drink in the bar at Danielle's restaurant in downtown 
Frederick.
www.myfoxdc.com/.../frederick-man-al-labrush-says-he-saw-meteor-010311

Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Re: [meteorite-list] I'm curious

2011-01-03 Thread Richard Montgomery
First to chime in, and recently new to collecting (10 years) I'll mention 
that my most special specimens have come from offerings from this List, 
quality and rarity and exceptional pedigree of primary focus. I'll be 
reading everyone's input, as well.


Richard Montgomery



- Original Message - 
From: J Sinclair j...@meteoriteusa.com

To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 5:59 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] I'm curious


Hi Everybody.

I haven’t posted much on the list for the last several years. When I
was active, I think there were about 800 members. Now according to
Art, there are over 1300.
Amazing.

I have a couple of questions. I have some old meteorite stock (and
some recent material too) that I want to sell.

As Sellers
How are you most successful in moving inventory?  Is it by a website
or a list with “sale” prices or is it by auction with a low opening
bid and then hoping for the best?  Or, are there other options that
work well?

As Buyers
How do you most like to buy? Is it buying from a list or website with
fair (sale) prices or is it buying at auction and hoping to get a
really good deal?  Or, are there any other ways that work well for
you?

I just basically want to move some inventory I’ve had stashed and I’m
pondering the best way to do it for both buyer and seller. It's not a
fire sale but I like a “win–win” situation.

Thanks.
John Sinclair
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Re: [meteorite-list] Frederick MD meteorites? shown

2011-01-03 Thread Mike Hankey
your link was bad, but here is corrected:

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/offbeat/frederick-man-al-labrush-says-he-saw-meteor-010311


On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 9:13 PM, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Seems to me that the guy is a nutcase with perhaps real meteorites from a 
 different meteorite?

 Anyone for Campo or CDs?

 Frederick Man, Al LaBrush, Says He Saw Meteor
 2 hours ago - Al LaBrush is an astronomy buff who always wanted to see a 
 meteor up close. He was having a drink in the bar at Danielle's restaurant in 
 downtown Frederick.
 www.myfoxdc.com/.../frederick-man-al-labrush-says-he-saw-meteor-010311

 Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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[meteorite-list] East-coast fall did NOT occur over Frederick, MD

2011-01-03 Thread Matson, Robert D.
The York, PA, video precludes a fall in Frederick, MD. 'Nuf said.  --Rob

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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Hankey
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 7:03 PM
To: drtanuki
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Frederick MD meteorites? shown

your link was bad, but here is corrected:

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/offbeat/frederick-man-al-labrush-says-he
-saw-meteor-010311


On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 9:13 PM, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Seems to me that the guy is a nutcase with perhaps real meteorites
from a different meteorite?

 Anyone for Campo or CDs?

 Frederick Man, Al LaBrush, Says He Saw Meteor
 2 hours ago - Al LaBrush is an astronomy buff who always wanted to see
a meteor up close. He was having a drink in the bar at Danielle's
restaurant in downtown Frederick.
 www.myfoxdc.com/.../frederick-man-al-labrush-says-he-saw-meteor-010311

 Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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