Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Dust
Before people start going off on the WP and shaking their angry fists, notice that it's an AP article. Essentially someone at the Associated Press writes it, various papers subscribe to it and just pull material and publish it as filler. Yes, the WP should probably fact check the articles they pull, but like most major newspapers, they don't have the time. It's a minor human interest story that probably made page 12 of section B of the newspaper or something. -Yinan On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:53 PM, JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com wrote: I thought the dust on the tape was the only legal to own and sell NASA lunar material. http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/missing-moon-dust-found-in-st-louis-auction-business-returned-to-nasas-johnson-space-center/2011/06/23/AGhR1zhH_story.html Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Warning about Lahcen Ait Ha
It has nothing to do with the Moroccan people, just the distance and perceptions of borders. Anyone regardless of nationality who hides behind a keyboard thinking it provides anonymity to cover up swindling will eventually meet their match whether it is Gary or something else. What a chance to go unannounced and claim: (Renault) What in heaven's name brought you to Casablanca? (Blaine) My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters. (Renault) The waters? What waters? We're in the desert. (Blaine) I was misinformed. And leave saying, H Morocco, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship! PS this is a mostly a random reply as a question came up if I am still alive ... yes - just with almost 23,000 unread list messages in the inbox and my hands quite full -Original Message- From: Jason Utas lt;meteorite...@gmail.comgt; To: Dan Furlan lt;danfur...@gmail.comgt;; Meteorite-list lt;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comgt; Sent: Thu, Jun 23, 2011 3:37 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Warning about Lahcen Ait Ha Hello All,Please be aware that the seller (Lahcenia Ait Ha or Lacenia Ait Ha --or apparently Lahcen Ait Ha) has changed his facebook user name and isnow going by the name Lhou Ait Ha.http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=10954047781I de-friended the fellow some years ago because his communicationsmade me uncomfortable. He didn't have any references, and I found anegative past reference to him on the list:http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/msg5 6009.htmlMy last communication with him was in 2010. Apparently he's still around...Dan -- please think about what you are suggesting. Would you say thesame thing to all US dealers if one of them was proven to have somehowswindled people? Maybe, but I have the feeling that such a demandwould seem a little over-the-top. You are indeed entitled to youropinion.Regards,JasonOn Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Dan Furlan lt;danfur...@gmail.comgt; wrote:gt; I'd like to speak for myself and say I'm not ordering anything fromgt; Morocco until Gary gets his money back. I just canceled an order forgt; 75 kilos because I am not risking my money with somebody who may knowgt; this guy who ripped off Gary. I do not support this kind of behaviorgt; and i already heard to be careful when dealing directly with thegt; Moroccans. What just happened to Gary didn't happen from some fly bygt; night con artist, this guy has sold stuff before and is known amongstgt; the Moroccans. It's going to take a lot more then throwing a fewgt; names at me to earn my trust I want to see them do something aboutgt; this and self regulate themselves before i send a few thousand dollarsgt; by western union. Anyways this is how i feel and im entitled to saygt; and do whatever i want especially since i know Gary and I am verygt; upset in learning that he got cheated out of his hard earned money.gt; The honest Moroccan dealers need to be concerned when somebody fromgt; their circle of business associates is pulling scams as it has agt; ripple effect on their over all image.. the same concept applies whengt; IMCA is concerned when one of their own isn't playing by the rules,gt; same principle in effect here according to me. this is my opinion andgt; i stand behind it 100%gt; Daniel Furlangt;gt; On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:37 AM, bill kies lt;parkforest...@hotmail.comgt; wrote:gt;gt;gt;gt; This is going way too far. Nobody over there owes anyone jack. To insinuate that honest dealers in Africa or anywhere else have a responsibility to hunt down deadbeats is moronic. We know the risks involved unless we WERE born yesterday. I believe I speak for everybody when I say you don't even come close to speaking for everybody.gt;gt;gt;gt;gt;gt; gt;gt;gt; Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 01:21:20 -0400gt;gt;gt; From: danfur...@gmail.comgt;gt;gt; To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comkigt;gt;gt; Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Warning about Lahcen Ait Hagt;gt;gt;gt;gt;gt; I would like to see that every Moroccan dealer who knows thisgt;gt;gt; disgraceful person named Lacen Ait Ha do everything they can to helpgt;gt;gt; Gary get his money back. I know Gary gives the Moroccans lots ofgt;gt;gt; business and i feel they owe him the professional courtesy to huntgt;gt;gt; down this very bad apple and have a serious talk with him. A few ofgt;gt;gt; the Moroccan dealers I have spoken to asked me if i know Gary Fujiharagt;gt;gt; to build trust with me. The same people who use Gary's name to buildgt;gt;gt; trust with me to do business, owe Gary the professional courtesy andgt;gt;gt; have the responsibilty to find this guy Lacen Ait Ha and make sure hegt;gt;gt; sends Gary all the money back plus the cost of shipping those bogusgt;gt;gt; rocks back to Morocco. We are not stupid people in North America andgt;gt;gt; we were not born yesterday and i
Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Dust (The Correction button)
To List and all: Instead of using the comments section, you can use the Correction button that is on the WP article's page. Here is where the link leads: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/interactivity/corrections/ With enough corrections sent, maybe they'll realize how bad that AP article is. -Yinan On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, The WP article's comment thread is now overrun by racists with a political axe to grind and a bunch of lunar-landing conspiracy nuts. Between the racism and the ignorance, it will be impossible to post a comment that corrects any misconceptions printed in the article. I posted a comment about the legality of lunar meteorite material and it was buried under an avalanche of hillbilly racism and moon-landing nutjobbery. I cannot help but cringe for our nation when we represent ourselves in such a fashion. Best regards, MikeG -- - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 6/24/11, Yinan Wang veom...@gmail.com wrote: Before people start going off on the WP and shaking their angry fists, notice that it's an AP article. Essentially someone at the Associated Press writes it, various papers subscribe to it and just pull material and publish it as filler. Yes, the WP should probably fact check the articles they pull, but like most major newspapers, they don't have the time. It's a minor human interest story that probably made page 12 of section B of the newspaper or something. -Yinan On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:53 PM, JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com wrote: I thought the dust on the tape was the only legal to own and sell NASA lunar material. http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/missing-moon-dust-found-in-st-louis-auction-business-returned-to-nasas-johnson-space-center/2011/06/23/AGhR1zhH_story.html Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Dust
Here's a more detailed article on Time, plus you can even click the editor's name and email them! http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2079683,00.html - Yinan On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, The WP article's comment thread is now overrun by racists with a political axe to grind and a bunch of lunar-landing conspiracy nuts. Between the racism and the ignorance, it will be impossible to post a comment that corrects any misconceptions printed in the article. I posted a comment about the legality of lunar meteorite material and it was buried under an avalanche of hillbilly racism and moon-landing nutjobbery. I cannot help but cringe for our nation when we represent ourselves in such a fashion. Best regards, MikeG -- - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 6/24/11, Yinan Wang veom...@gmail.com wrote: Before people start going off on the WP and shaking their angry fists, notice that it's an AP article. Essentially someone at the Associated Press writes it, various papers subscribe to it and just pull material and publish it as filler. Yes, the WP should probably fact check the articles they pull, but like most major newspapers, they don't have the time. It's a minor human interest story that probably made page 12 of section B of the newspaper or something. -Yinan On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:53 PM, JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com wrote: I thought the dust on the tape was the only legal to own and sell NASA lunar material. http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/missing-moon-dust-found-in-st-louis-auction-business-returned-to-nasas-johnson-space-center/2011/06/23/AGhR1zhH_story.html Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Moon Dust
Well, shoot, that makes it OK! They just didn't have time to fact check, which is such drudgery, not to mention a nuisance. It's *so* much more convenient to cut-and-paste from the AP. And anyway, it was on page 12 of section B - by the time you get way back there it doesn't matter what you print. Could be something about the Amazing Bat Boy or creepy Nils Farbu from the World Weekly News. Who cares about truth that deep into a newspaper? Sadly, newspapers have become simple containers for wire service stories and syndicated columnists. On a happier note, they're still good for lining bird cages and cleaning fish. Paul Swartz Yes, the WP?should probably fact check the articles they pull, but like most major newspapers, they don't have the time. It's a minor human interest story that probably made page 12 of section B of the newspaper or something. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Dust
Hi Paul and List, I am still amazed at how many people believe the Moon landings were fake. I don't want to open the debate again, but there is one key fact that the conspiracy nuts overlook : PEOPLE CANNOT KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT. Let's put aside the scientific and technological arguments for a moment and consider the human side of the story. Besides the astronauts and NASA personnel involved, there were many thousands of contractors, sub-contractors, family members, and friends involved in the Apollo program. Are we to seriously believe that thousands of people could keep a secret of this magnitude for over four decades? Heck, one person can't keep a secret for 10 minutes, less yet thousands of people for over forty years. It's downright silly. And I lose all intellectual respect for someone when they start parroting this lunar conspiracy carp. I believe our government is fully capable of (and willing) to lie to us about important issues, but I have no faith that human beings can keep a secret for any length of time, especially a secret of this scale that would involve thousands of people keeping their mouths shut. If anyone reading this believes in this conspiracy, please keep your replies to yourself and don't bother emailing me - I will only lose respect for you and I will not be swayed. Best regards, MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 6/24/11, valpar...@aol.com valpar...@aol.com wrote: Well, shoot, that makes it OK! They just didn't have time to fact check, which is such drudgery, not to mention a nuisance. It's *so* much more convenient to cut-and-paste from the AP. And anyway, it was on page 12 of section B - by the time you get way back there it doesn't matter what you print. Could be something about the Amazing Bat Boy or creepy Nils Farbu from the World Weekly News. Who cares about truth that deep into a newspaper? Sadly, newspapers have become simple containers for wire service stories and syndicated columnists. On a happier note, they're still good for lining bird cages and cleaning fish. Paul Swartz Yes, the WP?should probably fact check the articles they pull, but like most major newspapers, they don't have the time. It's a minor human interest story that probably made page 12 of section B of the newspaper or something. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Dust
On 6/24/11 6:26 AM, Met. Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: hillbilly racism and moon-landing nutjobbery. Hi Michael, Wonderful description. Oh, so many things are so greatly influenced by the ignorant masses of this country. Jay walking Is NOT faked - I know because these people show up In my classes! Newsweek does a yearly man on the Street 10 question test in 15 major cities. The AVERAGE Score is 4 out of 10. The questions?... Which country is Closer to the United States: France or Canada? Which Came first, the Civil War or World War II? (Really, ALL the questions are that simple... 4 out of 10! No one seems to get that our educational System is going down the tubes as a result of nit wit, Politically correct, see the student as a customer first Attitudes coupled with a false sense of entitlement And the taboo prevalent throughout the country against flunking non-achievers. Harvard now gives ALL As to all students in All classes. (Parents aren't paying $40,000 per year For their kids to get Bs - there was a segment on 60 Minutes about this last year). These people don't just decide elections They Are running a lot of things. The lower echelon of them Are the face to face people you deal with in most stores. It is terrifying! They are EVERYWHERE! Let's hide! Michael -- Obama is not a brown-skinned anti-war socialist. You are thinking of Jesus. (Street sign) -- Add two grains of sugar to everything you say And one of salt to everything you hear. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] impact crater?
Thought some of you might like this... When I first saw the illustration from this article: http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2011/3051/pdf/fs2011-3051.pdf on the top of the page at http://geology.com/news/ I thought, 'nice cross section... which unexposed crater made the news?' I'd love to see some chip samples from near the center. -Robert __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Dust
Yep - you tell a lie enough times over and over, and the masses believe it to be the truth. That is... how you control the people. Greg S Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote: On 6/24/11 6:26 AM, Met. Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: hillbilly racism and moon-landing nutjobbery. Hi Michael, Wonderful description. Oh, so many things are so greatly influenced by the ignorant masses of this country. Jay walking Is NOT faked - I know because these people show up In my classes! Newsweek does a yearly man on the Street 10 question test in 15 major cities. The AVERAGE Score is 4 out of 10. The questions?... Which country is Closer to the United States: France or Canada? Which Came first, the Civil War or World War II? (Really, ALL the questions are that simple... 4 out of 10! No one seems to get that our educational System is going down the tubes as a result of nit wit, Politically correct, see the student as a customer first Attitudes coupled with a false sense of entitlement And the taboo prevalent throughout the country against flunking non-achievers. Harvard now gives ALL As to all students in All classes. (Parents aren't paying $40,000 per year For their kids to get Bs - there was a segment on 60 Minutes about this last year). These people don't just decide elections They Are running a lot of things. The lower echelon of them Are the face to face people you deal with in most stores. It is terrifying! They are EVERYWHERE! Let's hide! Michael -- Obama is not a brown-skinned anti-war socialist. You are thinking of Jesus. (Street sign) -- Add two grains of sugar to everything you say And one of salt to everything you hear. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : NWA 5885 Main Mass - Rare EH5 chondrite
Hello, the main mass of NWA 5885, hold for a time by one of our meteorite friend, is now for sale again, because a change in his whishlist... The NWA 5885, with a Total Known Weight of only 21g (missreferenced 98g in MetSoc DataBase), is classified as EH5 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=50771 Only two other EH5 are known outside Antarctica, Saint Sauveur and St. Mark's. Priced at only 65$/g for this small main mass. http://www.wwmeteorites.com/NWA5885.html Fabien (www.wwmeteorites.com) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS/ POP CULTURE
Hello Listers, I thought I would change up the POP QUIZ today and shift it to POP CULTURE and movies about meteors and meteorites. Have fun and enjoy the POP QUIZ :) Name of the game Be the 10th Lister to email me off the List with the correct answer and you will win a 100mg plus Harrisonville meteorite fragment found in 1933. If you get the bonus question right you will win a 100mg plus Saratov meteorite fragment from Russia which fell in 1918. Good Luck Please tell me the name of the movie in 2009 where some local natives find a meteorite which in turn was used to weaponize a human. And for the bonus question, tell me the name of meteorite/material. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE PHOTOS: I Need LOTS of Meteorite Photos! ASAP!
Hi guys, I want to thank everyone who has contacted me with all the great meteorite photos so far and request that you keep those awesome meteorite photos coming in. I need lots more of them. Regards, Eric On 6/23/2011 12:47 PM, Eric Wichman wrote: Hi everyone, I'm looking for a whole bunch of high quality *exterior* and *interior* photos and artwork of *ALL* of these meteorite specimens listed below for a special meteorite project I'm working on. The project is for dealers and collectors and will be featuring exquisite specimens and rare meteorites. Anyone is welcome to participate. (You'll like it!) The faster I get these photos, and the better they are, the more likely they'll be featured in the project. I get hundreds of emails per day, so PLEASE be sure to include *METEORITE PHOTOS* in the subject line of your email so I can respond faster. Please send all meteorite photos and artwork to: e...@meteoritesusa.com LIST OF METEORITE PHOTOS NEEDED: Sikhote Alin Gibeon Brenham Campo Canyon Diablo Ash Creek Ensisheim Hoba Tucson Ring NWA 869 Allende Gao Murchison Vaca Muerta Imilac Esquel Portales Valley Plainview Weston Peekskill (car, stone and interior) Holbrook Old Woman Gold Basin Willamette --- Thanks for participating! Regards, Eric __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - nice sale on meteorites and lots
Hi to all. Here is a list of a few nice meteorites and lots for sale. Can ship any sales paid for today in the morning. After today, shipping will not be available until after the 4th of July. Thanks for looking. Valera Meteorite slice 3.8g KILLED AN ANIMAL! $120.00 ALH76009 .03g $25.00 NWA 6550 (LL3.7) 80 gram corner cut $130.00 300g of INCREDIBLE Sikhote-Alin individuals for $400.00 - 2 available Tatahouine Thin Sections (uncovered) $50.00 each - 2 available Camel Donga 30g lots for $450.00 each Carancas 30g lot (recovered by Bob Haag)- $600.00 Tatahouine 20g lot for $250.00 I also have some nice items on ebay for sale. See link below. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE PHOTOS: I Need LOTS of Meteorite Photos! ASAP!
Seen I am photographer I am just under take all new photos of my pieces in collection, but its a long work. When I have time I send to you some photos Matteo M come Meteorite Meteoriti i...@mcomemeteorite.it http://www.mcomemeteorite.it http://www.mcomemeteorite.eu Mindat Gallery http://www.mindat.org/gallery-5018.html ChinellatoPhoto Servizi Fotografici http://www.chinellatophoto.com Da: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com A: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Data: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 12:37:08 -0700 Oggetto: Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE PHOTOS: I Need LOTS of Meteorite Photos! ASAP! Hi guys, I want to thank everyone who has contacted me with all the great meteorite photos so far and request that you keep those awesome meteorite photos coming in. I need lots more of them. Regards, Eric On 6/23/2011 12:47 PM, Eric Wichman wrote: Hi everyone, I'm looking for a whole bunch of high quality *exterior* and *interior* photos and artwork of *ALL* of these meteorite specimens listed below for a special meteorite project I'm working on. The project is for dealers and collectors and will be featuring exquisite specimens and rare meteorites. Anyone is welcome to participate. (You'll like it!) The faster I get these photos, and the better they are, the more likely they'll be featured in the project. I get hundreds of emails per day, so PLEASE be sure to include *METEORITE PHOTOS* in the subject line of your email so I can respond faster. Please send all meteorite photos and artwork to: e...@meteoritesusa.com LIST OF METEORITE PHOTOS NEEDED: Sikhote Alin Gibeon Brenham Campo Canyon Diablo Ash Creek Ensisheim Hoba Tucson Ring NWA 869 Allende Gao Murchison Vaca Muerta Imilac Esquel Portales Valley Plainview Weston Peekskill (car, stone and interior) Holbrook Old Woman Gold Basin Willamette --- Thanks for participating! Regards, Eric __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad: HUGE Graphite Nodule slice from a Canyon Diablo meteorite
Hi all, A friend - not on the list- asked me to post this ad for him. He's selling a very large (345 grams) slice of a graphite nodule from a Canyon Diablo Meteorite. It's worth a look even if you're not interested in buying. It looks very much like a Portales Valley Slice on steroids! There is a ruler beside the slice so you can get an idea of size. Here: http://s1088.photobucket.com/albums/i334/mrmeteorite/ Please email me off list for price if interested -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Dust
Hi Stuart and List, That is true about the Manhattan Project, but look how long that secret lasted. The Soviets penetrated the project and Klaus Fuchs stole the secrets in less than 2 years. That secret, involving a fraction of the people the Apollo program did, didn't last nearly as long as the supposed 40-year+ secret of the faked moon landings. I can understand having a distrust of the government, but the Apollo program went far beyond the military and the government. In fact, it was the opposite of a secret - we wanted the whole world to know what we were doing. Out of all the evidence the conspiracy people put forth to debunk the landings, they never address how so many people could keep their big mouths shut for so long. It's the biggest gaping hole (pun intended) in their arguments. I have an old high school friend who is a professor at our local university, and he firmly believes that the moon landings were faked. We have discussed it more than once, and he won't budge on his belief. He is a very intelligent person, but yet he persists in his belief of the conspiracy. To bring this back to meteorites - we have numerous lunar samples (Apollo and meteorite) that have been analyzed by dozens (hundreds?) of reputable scientists at respected institutions and not a single one of them has come out on the side of the conspiracy theorists. Are we to believe that scientists such as Ted Bunch, Randy Korotev and others are also involved in this conspiracy? The ability of this conspiracy theory to persist in the face of irrefutable evidence to the contrary is proof that some people will believe anything - if it validates some prejudice or deeply-held belief that they hold. Some people are convinced that the government is evil. Some people are convinced that aliens run the world. Some people think that aliens built the pyramids and that the Nazca lines are landing strips for UFO's. Heck, look at how many books that kook Von Daniken has sold! What I want to know is, if the Apollo astronauts didn't land on the Moon, then where did they go? Millions of people watched them blast off and leave Earth. Tens of thousands witnessed the launch in person. The Soviets must be in on the conspiracy also, because their military tracked our every move during the landings. If any entity had a reason to expose such a lie, the Soviets would have gladly outed the secret, if it was indeed true. Well, I better sign off, my Pleiadean masters are summoning me for an interstellar meeting. ;) Best regards, MikeG -- - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 6/24/11, Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com wrote: Hey Mike, I firmly believe and KNOW the lunar landing happened, hell I was there to watch them blast off in '69 but think about this.look at the secret a 1000+ or so kept about the Manhattan project. Oakridge hired all these people to build the facility or basically a town then the bomb and they had no idea what they were working on. Just a thought. Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA -Original Message- From: Michael Gilmer Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 12:30 PM To: valpar...@aol.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Dust Hi Paul and List, I am still amazed at how many people believe the Moon landings were fake. I don't want to open the debate again, but there is one key fact that the conspiracy nuts overlook : PEOPLE CANNOT KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT. Let's put aside the scientific and technological arguments for a moment and consider the human side of the story. Besides the astronauts and NASA personnel involved, there were many thousands of contractors, sub-contractors, family members, and friends involved in the Apollo program. Are we to seriously believe that thousands of people could keep a secret of this magnitude for over four decades? Heck, one person can't keep a secret for 10 minutes, less yet thousands of people for over forty years. It's downright silly. And I lose all intellectual respect for someone when they start parroting this lunar conspiracy carp. I believe our government is fully capable of (and willing) to lie to us about important issues, but I have no faith that human beings can keep a secret for any length of time, especially a secret of this scale that would involve thousands of people keeping their mouths shut. If anyone reading this believes in this conspiracy,
Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Dust
Hey Mike, I firmly believe and KNOW the lunar landing happened, hell I was there to watch them blast off in '69 but think about this.look at the secret a 1000+ or so kept about the Manhattan project. Oakridge hired all these people to build the facility or basically a town then the bomb and they had no idea what they were working on. Just a thought. Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA -Original Message- From: Michael Gilmer Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 12:30 PM To: valpar...@aol.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Dust Hi Paul and List, I am still amazed at how many people believe the Moon landings were fake. I don't want to open the debate again, but there is one key fact that the conspiracy nuts overlook : PEOPLE CANNOT KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT. Let's put aside the scientific and technological arguments for a moment and consider the human side of the story. Besides the astronauts and NASA personnel involved, there were many thousands of contractors, sub-contractors, family members, and friends involved in the Apollo program. Are we to seriously believe that thousands of people could keep a secret of this magnitude for over four decades? Heck, one person can't keep a secret for 10 minutes, less yet thousands of people for over forty years. It's downright silly. And I lose all intellectual respect for someone when they start parroting this lunar conspiracy carp. I believe our government is fully capable of (and willing) to lie to us about important issues, but I have no faith that human beings can keep a secret for any length of time, especially a secret of this scale that would involve thousands of people keeping their mouths shut. If anyone reading this believes in this conspiracy, please keep your replies to yourself and don't bother emailing me - I will only lose respect for you and I will not be swayed. Best regards, MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 6/24/11, valpar...@aol.com valpar...@aol.com wrote: Well, shoot, that makes it OK! They just didn't have time to fact check, which is such drudgery, not to mention a nuisance. It's *so* much more convenient to cut-and-paste from the AP. And anyway, it was on page 12 of section B - by the time you get way back there it doesn't matter what you print. Could be something about the Amazing Bat Boy or creepy Nils Farbu from the World Weekly News. Who cares about truth that deep into a newspaper? Sadly, newspapers have become simple containers for wire service stories and syndicated columnists. On a happier note, they're still good for lining bird cages and cleaning fish. Paul Swartz Yes, the WP?should probably fact check the articles they pull, but like most major newspapers, they don't have the time. It's a minor human interest story that probably made page 12 of section B of the newspaper or something. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Moon Dust
All the AP people, or whoever wrote the original article, had to do was add the simple caveat that all non-Antarctic lunar meteorites and meteoritical materials are perfectly legal to possess, buy and sell. A simple distinction between the legality of non-Antactic lunar meteorites and the illegality of NASA moon rocks would have done it. These people are, after all, journalism majors, unschooled in the esoteric, highly specialized field of meteoritics. Returning to the gist of the thread, it looks like the Feds and NASA are cracking down on the private possession of lunar dust retrieved from space paraphenalia. NASA workers regularly used strips of tape to clean lunar dust off space suits before they were returned to their manufacturer for inspection and repair. The Slezak lunar dust and other dust collected by Florian Noller from a moon bag carried on Apollo 16 has been in a gray area, apparently up until now. Unless the Feds are talking about some of the smuggled dust from the space suits. Sounds like they're talking about the Slezak dust which Noller has openly sold in the past. I think he was taken in for questioning and maybe charged but it came to nothing and he kept the dust. Looks like now they want all the dust for themselves. Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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