Re: [meteorite-list] Cat Mountain on EBay [LA Disclaimer]
Mike, Doug, and All, The recent post by Michael Mulgrew is accurate. The MetSoc only recognizes the name Los Angeles. The recent post by Doug Dawn raises a valid question. I made a rookie mistake 13 years ago and I've been paying for it ever since. Lesson to all rookies: don't make rookie mistakes! No, seriously, it's okay to self-assign pet-names and even field ID numbers to your meteorites, but DON'T self-assign 001 to 00n numbers, or try to mimic NomCom formally-approved meteorite names. Especially when it is based on pre-classification self-pairings. - [meteorite-list] Cat Mountain on EBay Michael Mulgrew mikestang at gmail.com Sat Aug 20 17:25:50 EDT 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Cat Mountain on EBay Next message: [meteorite-list] Cat Mountain on EBay Doug, I asked Bob Verish about this a few months ago. The MetBul does not show number designations, it recognizes two stones that make up the TKW for the Los Angeles meteorite. The 001 and 002 designations were internal to Mr. Verish for his own record keeping, but I believe he said (and I hope he'll chime in and correct me if I am mistaken) he used them publically a few times and without realizing it the number designation spread. -Michael in so. Cal. On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 12:13 PM, MexicoDoug mexicodoug at aim.com wrote: ... Finally, can someone say why those incredible US Martians: LA001 and LA002 got numbers if they are considered paired? Bob? There's no LA003 through LA00n that I'm aware of ... Can a slice of one be distingueshed from another? Are there other examples of unique / closed numbering? What ever happened to the protocol of (a), (b), (c), ... Kindest wishes Doug Previous message: [meteorite-list] Cat Mountain on EBay Next message: [meteorite-list] Cat Mountain on EBay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Re: Cat Mountain on EBay
Lol. Well I'm sure your contacts will come in handy when I report you for your suggested assault. If you'd like to cut the crap, perhaps you can answer my one question, *Count?* Jason On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net wrote: -Forwarded Message- From: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net Sent: Aug 21, 2011 6:50 PM To: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Cat Mountain on EBay Dear Utas, I am Count Guido Roberto Deiro, Lord of Selasco, Precorsano, Canavese and Deiro Inferiore e Superiore. (Italian counties in the Region of Piedmonte, Italy). I am a member of the Italian Royal House of Savoia (The exiled King of Italy's household.) and hold the position of Guadia d'Honore del Tombe del Re. (Thats one of the select noblemen who guards the Tomb of the King of Italy in the Parthenon. (The oldest building in Rome.) Italy's George Washington. A public school in Salto Canavese, Torino, Italy has been named L'Acadameia d'Count Deiro in my honor for my subscriptions and support in the construction of the facility which serves over 500 grade school children in the Valle d'Orco. I am a Knight Grand Cross and the Grand Chancellor of the Sovereign Dynastic Order of St. John - Knights of Malta (One of the oldest orders of chivalry in the world.). And a Knight Grand Cross of the Sovereign Military Order of St. George. Both positions were aquired through a lifetime of work supporting International Red Cross and Refugee Relief on four continents. These investitures can only be made by a King, Queen, Prince or Princess. In my case, HRH King Michael of Romania, HRH Prince Henri of France and HRH Eric von Pappenheim of Germany. The Governor of the State of Nevada proclaimed that December 29th of each year is to be known as Count Deiro Day. The Governor of the State of Kentucky commissioned me a Colonel in the State Guard. (The late Colonel Sanders was also an officer.) The City of Las Vegas proclaimed me an Outstanding Citizen and named a boulevard Count Deiro Drive. These honors were granted in recognition of my years of service to the less fortunate citizens of those localities. Finally, I will only print the operative words in the Certificate of Recognition from the United States of America. This Citation recognizes certain services performed by me on behalf of this country the citizens of this country are forever grateful. Signed. Donald Rumsfeld - Secretary of Defense. I wrote this self serving rant as a paen to your abject stupidity and lack of social graces. You do not, even in this armpit of society, adress personages of nobility and condition by their surnames. It is a huge insult. Akin to calling you a MF or a CS. And my surname is spelled Deiro. Pronounced day-row like in dago :0) I trust we will not meet in the future lest I swipe a glove across your countenance! You have insulted me and I have a right to satisfaction. (Note, Rolling Stones 1965). Before accepting and arranging the meetings of seconds, you may wish to avail yourself of information concerning my ability with swords and firearms. You will find that I am a Prevost d'Armes of the International Academie d'Escrime in Foil, Epee' and Saber. Further, I am a Certified NRA Instructor with ratings in Home Firearm Safety, Armed Personal Defense, Refuse to be a Victim and Pistol. Nah...Jason and ListThis was all written for laughs...although it is accuratebut really, it's not nice to insult, or beliitle people you don't really know anything about. You may be surptised whose ox you have gored. Now, as to your fascination with the story of the recent Cat Mountain finds. Why concern yourself? You aren't in a position to buy any of it.. and it's too late now cause it's all gone! Gone... To happy campers. Regards, Guido -Original Message- From: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com Sent: Aug 20, 2011 10:20 PM To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Cat Mountain on EBay Hello All, Greg is correct; unless the meteorites have been found in a demarcated dense collection area, they should not receive separate names. The Nomenclature Committee's policies regarding serial naming are rather clear -- and since the stones are apparently paired, I believe Franconia is the perfect analogy. Per existing regulations, these stones should not receive new names. If I am to understand correctly, someone of questionable integrity was involved with the recovery of the third stone. Since you failed to answer my question in private, Diero, I'll ask you here -- is that correct? Regards, Jason On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com wrote: I would think each would be called Cat Mountain, if they are all classified the same as the first one and were found in the same area, suggesting a strewn field. There are no Franconia 002 or Gold Basin 002.
[meteorite-list] Cat Mountain etc
My Dear Count! May I humbly offer my services as your Second should you not gain satisfaction! Yours David R Childs IMCA#5112 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Re: Cat Mountain on EBay / Count Jason
Hi Jason, Sounds like being a Count has it's benefits. This might be something to put on your Christmas list ; ) You're about to discover the amazing gift idea which has taken the U.S. and Europe by storm. This gift idea is guaranteed to bring you or a loved one: Increased respect from the people you know VIP treatment Access to the privileged world A instant talking point with your friends Prestige in the financial world A boost to your personal confidence Opportunities that otherwise would've passed you by Opened doors in your career Discounts in the consumer world The ability to influence people effortlessly It's frightening how people in the twenty-first century still perceive a person with a title to be richer, more intelligent and better thought of, than the average Mr. Joe Bloggs. But people do - and you can take advantage of it. http://www.regaltitles.com/ Just teasing! Everybody have a great day. Sonny -Original Message- From: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Aug 22, 2011 2:57 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Re: Cat Mountain on EBay Lol. Well I'm sure your contacts will come in handy when I report youfor your suggested assault.If you'd like to cut the crap, perhaps you can answer my one question,*Count?*JasonOn Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net wrote: -Forwarded Message-From: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.netSent: Aug 21, 2011 6:50 PMTo: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.comSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Cat Mountain on EBayDear Utas,I am Count Guido Roberto Deiro, Lord of Selasco, Precorsano, Canavese and Deiro Inferiore e Superiore. (Italian counties in the Region of Piedmonte, Italy). I am a member of the Italian Royal House of Savoia (The exiled King of Italy's household.) and hold the position of Guadia d'Honore del Tombe del Re.(Thats one of the select noblemen who guards the Tomb of the King of Italy in the Parthenon. (The oldest building in Rome.) Italy's George Washington.A public school in Salto Canavese, Torino, Italy has been named L'Acadameia d'Count Deiro in my honor for my subscriptions and support in the construction of the facility which serves over 500 grade school children in the Valle d'Orco.I am a Knight Grand Cross and the Grand Chancellor of the Sovereign Dynastic Order of St. John - Knights of Malta (One of the oldest orders of chivalry in the world.). And a Knight Grand Cross of the Sovereign Military Order of St. George. Both positions were aquired through a lifetime of work supporting International Red Cross and Refugee Relief on four continents. These investitures can only be made by a King, Queen, Prince or Princess. In my case, HRH King Michael of Romania, HRH Prince Henri of France and HRH Eric von Pappenheim of Germany.The Governor of the State of Nevada proclaimed that December 29th of each year is to be known as Count Deiro Day. The Governor of the State of Kentucky commissioned me a Colonel in the State Guard. (The late Colonel Sanders was also an officer.) The City of Las Vegas proclaimed me an Outstanding Citizen and named a boulevard Count Deiro Drive. These honors were granted in recognition of my years of service to the less fortunate citizens of those localities.Finally, I will only print the operative words in the Certificate of Recognition from the United States of America. This Citation recognizes certain services performed by me on behalf of this country the citizens of this country are forever grateful. Signed. Donald Rumsfeld - Secretary of Defense.I wrote this self serving rant as a paen to your abject stupidity and lack of social graces. You do not, even in this armpit of society, adress personages of nobility and condition by their surnames. It is a huge insult. Akin to calling you a MF or a CS. And my surname is spelled Deiro. Pronounced day-row like in dago :0)I trust we will not meet in the future lest I swipe a glove across your countenance! You have insulted me and I have a right to satisfaction. (Note, Rolling Stones 1965). Before accepting and arranging the meetings of seconds, you may wish to avail yourself of information concerning my ability with swords and firearms. You will find that I am a Prevost d'Armes of the International Academie d'Escrime in Foil, Epee' and Saber. Further, I am a Certified NRA Instructor with ratings in Home Firearm Safety, Armed Personal Defense, Refuse to be a Victim and Pistol.Nah...Jason and ListThis was all written for laughs...although it is accuratebut really, it's not nice to insult, or beliitle people you don't really know anything about. You may be surptised whose ox you have gored.Now, as to your fascination with the story of the recent Cat Mountain finds. Why concern yourself? You aren't in a position to buy any of it.. and it's too late now cause it's all gone! Gone... To happy
[meteorite-list] Fw: Re: Cat Mountain on EBay
abject stupidity and lack of social graces Outstanding, Count! An apt description of America today. Paul Swartz __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fraudulent IMCA Claim?
Hello List, This seller claims to be IMCA 3459: http://www.ebay.com/itm/CAMPO-del-CIELO-METEORITE-CRYSTAL-50-1-gram-CHUNK-/150648871654?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item23135f5ae6 As far as I can see that number does not exist., unless it's a typo error for 3457? David R Childs IMCA 5112 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fraudulent IMCA Claim?
The auction gives a phone number - why don't you just call and find out? The sensible explanation is Bill Jensen typed his number on a smart phone keyboard, but Mitch and his telephone # don't fit ... maybe the IMCA list could help better? Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: David R Childs david.chil...@btinternet.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Aug 22, 2011 2:03 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraudulent IMCA Claim? Hello List, This seller claims to be IMCA 3459: http://www.ebay.com/itm/CAMPO-del-CIELO-METEORITE-CRYSTAL-50-1-gram-CHUNK-/150648871654?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item23135f5ae6 As far as I can see that number does not exist., unless it's a typo error for 3457? David R Childs IMCA 5112 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fraudulent IMCA Claim?
Hi Doug, Obviously Bill got big fingers!! Regards David - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraudulent IMCA Claim? The auction gives a phone number - why don't you just call and find out? The sensible explanation is Bill Jensen typed his number on a smart phone keyboard, but Mitch and his telephone # don't fit ... maybe the IMCA list could help better? Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: David R Childs david.chil...@btinternet.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Aug 22, 2011 2:03 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraudulent IMCA Claim? Hello List, This seller claims to be IMCA 3459: http://www.ebay.com/itm/CAMPO-del-CIELO-METEORITE-CRYSTAL-50-1-gram-CHUNK-/150648871654?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item23135f5ae6 As far as I can see that number does not exist., unless it's a typo error for 3457? David R Childs IMCA 5112 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Wrongs On EBay
It is interesting that 8 of of the top 10 priced meteorites on eBay are not meteorites at all Our Friend Steve C. is at it again. I heard a funny statement in regards to this less-than-informed person. He is now being called The Man From Unco. It is funny that the Unco formation, short for Uncompahgre, is known for the producing terrestrial breccias. These breccias from rhyolitic volcanics of the Uncompahgre-San Jaun caldera complex mimic, in appearance only, some lunar breccias. This site known for the famous San Jaun breccias is less than 50 miles from Stevy's house. Steve, has now cried Unco one too many times. He now claims to have the North American twin brother to NWA 5K. Sorry Stevy, not even close however you have earned yourself a name in the Book of Frauds and the Who's Who of Crazies. I know you lurk on this list so I will give you one warning only to take out all references NWA 5K in your fraudulent listings. This is an official meteorite that should in no way be confused with delusions that San Juan breccias are from the Moon. Adam. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fraudulent IMCA Claim?
Hello All, This ebayer has been approved for membership but there has been an obvious misunderstanding when he could start using his number. His name is Mitch Marner and while I do not yet know him personally, he came to us highly recommended and is friendly. I will straighten this out right away and I hope you shall find his name and number on the membership list ASAP. Any other questions, please let me know. Best wishes, Maria Haas Treasurer I.M.C.A., Inc. www.IMCA.cc Member #5520 From: david.chil...@btinternet.com To: mexicod...@aim.com Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 19:48:44 +0100 CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraudulent IMCA Claim? Hi Doug, Obviously Bill got big fingers!! Regards David - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraudulent IMCA Claim? The auction gives a phone number - why don't you just call and find out? The sensible explanation is Bill Jensen typed his number on a smart phone keyboard, but Mitch and his telephone # don't fit ... maybe the IMCA list could help better? Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: David R Childs david.chil...@btinternet.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Aug 22, 2011 2:03 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraudulent IMCA Claim? Hello List, This seller claims to be IMCA 3459: http://www.ebay.com/itm/CAMPO-del-CIELO-METEORITE-CRYSTAL-50-1-gram-CHUNK-/150648871654?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item23135f5ae6 As far as I can see that number does not exist., unless it's a typo error for 3457? David R Childs IMCA 5112 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Wrongs On EBay
Adam, I questioned Steve on his claim that winning bids on his lunar items are 80 percent tax deductible. I found this impossible since his organization is not listed with the IRS as a tax-deductible organization. You can see all that information at the Secretary of the State of Colorado web site, under his filing for his organization... Has the organization applied for or been granted IRS tax exempt status? : No and Are contributions to the organization tax deductible?: No http://www.sos.state.co.us/ccsa/ViewReports.do?evEntityType=COceId=70100ev Id=70100 Steve so politely emailed me the following information... Walter! Walter! Walter!! Shame on you, Dude! Unless you are Cobaltbird, or some other lost soul, or a IMCA LOONIE, you've never, once, emailed me. Thanks for letting me record your statements! I have you in my sights, Buddy! I will take no prisoners!But, I will take your resignation from the IMCA!!! Love ya!.NOT A CHANCE!! Steve ...and... I've got your number, Wally, and I'll be passing it on! Thanks for your input, and let me know when you graduate Jr. High! In the meantime, keep your unprofessional, unethical, discourteous, and unscientific comments to yourself! Just find something else to do, will you? Preferably, something that will benefit someone besides yourself! Steve He's still trying to sell his rhyolitic volcanics on Ebay. I was in his area just a week ago, took a short 4 day Four Corners vacation to ruins, rocks, and state parks. If you're not careful, you'll trip over this junk he tries to sell. Walter L. Newton __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Denver Show Auction
Will there be a meteorite auction at the Denver Gem and Mineral show this year? Paul Swartz IMCA 5204 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Re: Cat Mountain on EBay
Sorry for the OT, Art and List But Count Deiro started it... and just can't refrain myself... Would have thought that so many honorary titles would have you/make you humble... which is the ultimate goal of such knights... spirits... that held/hold the titles you seem to have... Guess not... Dear Count... (just trying to stay polite...) A Count is just and only a title given by a few terrestrial beings... nothing more. Because in your case, I really don't think any divine high spirited being has interacted ! Your sordid accumulation of titles ... the way you spill them to the plebeians... is just simply absolutely repulsive ! You might be a Count... but such a weak, dull spirit compared to my simple but wise 100 years old grandma... Cheers... Dear Count... And no cheers to some s...ckers... with $$$ in their minds. Poor souls... Yes, I love meteorites for the soul they carry... not their terrestrial futile value ! Michael B. From: Count Deiro Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 4:01 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: Re: Cat Mountain on EBay -Forwarded Message- From: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net Sent: Aug 21, 2011 6:50 PM To: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Cat Mountain on EBay Dear Utas, I am Count Guido Roberto Deiro, Lord of Selasco, Precorsano, Canavese and Deiro Inferiore e Superiore. (Italian counties in the Region of Piedmonte, Italy). I am a member of the Italian Royal House of Savoia (The exiled King of Italy's household.) and hold the position of Guadia d'Honore del Tombe del Re. (Thats one of the select noblemen who guards the Tomb of the King of Italy in the Parthenon. (The oldest building in Rome.) Italy's George Washington. A public school in Salto Canavese, Torino, Italy has been named L'Acadameia d'Count Deiro in my honor for my subscriptions and support in the construction of the facility which serves over 500 grade school children in the Valle d'Orco. I am a Knight Grand Cross and the Grand Chancellor of the Sovereign Dynastic Order of St. John - Knights of Malta (One of the oldest orders of chivalry in the world.). And a Knight Grand Cross of the Sovereign Military Order of St. George. Both positions were aquired through a lifetime of work supporting International Red Cross and Refugee Relief on four continents. These investitures can only be made by a King, Queen, Prince or Princess. In my case, HRH King Michael of Romania, HRH Prince Henri of France and HRH Eric von Pappenheim of Germany. The Governor of the State of Nevada proclaimed that December 29th of each year is to be known as Count Deiro Day. The Governor of the State of Kentucky commissioned me a Colonel in the State Guard. (The late Colonel Sanders was also an officer.) The City of Las Vegas proclaimed me an Outstanding Citizen and named a boulevard Count Deiro Drive. These honors were granted in recognition of my years of service to the less fortunate citizens of those localities. Finally, I will only print the operative words in the Certificate of Recognition from the United States of America. This Citation recognizes certain services performed by me on behalf of this country the citizens of this country are forever grateful. Signed. Donald Rumsfeld - Secretary of Defense. I wrote this self serving rant as a paen to your abject stupidity and lack of social graces. You do not, even in this armpit of society, adress personages of nobility and condition by their surnames. It is a huge insult. Akin to calling you a MF or a CS. And my surname is spelled Deiro. Pronounced day-row like in dago :0) I trust we will not meet in the future lest I swipe a glove across your countenance! You have insulted me and I have a right to satisfaction. (Note, Rolling Stones 1965). Before accepting and arranging the meetings of seconds, you may wish to avail yourself of information concerning my ability with swords and firearms. You will find that I am a Prevost d'Armes of the International Academie d'Escrime in Foil, Epee' and Saber. Further, I am a Certified NRA Instructor with ratings in Home Firearm Safety, Armed Personal Defense, Refuse to be a Victim and Pistol. Nah...Jason and ListThis was all written for laughs...although it is accuratebut really, it's not nice to insult, or beliitle people you don't really know anything about. You may be surptised whose ox you have gored. Now, as to your fascination with the story of the recent Cat Mountain finds. Why concern yourself? You aren't in a position to buy any of it.. and it's too late now cause it's all gone! Gone... To happy campers. Regards, Guido -Original Message- From: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com Sent: Aug 20, 2011 10:20 PM To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Cat Mountain on EBay Hello All, Greg is correct; unless the meteorites
[meteorite-list] Ohio-No Finds Yet
Nothing yet, it appears: http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/560615/Meteorites-may-have-landed-in-the-region.html?nav=5021 Meteorites may have landed in the region August 19, 2011 By DAN POMPILI - reporter (dpomp...@tribtoday.com) , Tribune Chronicle | TribToday.com Save | Comments (6) | Post a comment | Residents of northeastern Ohio and western Pennsylvania should be on the lookout for space rocks. At 1:22 a.m. Aug. 8, sky cameras belonging to the Southern Ontario Meteor Network in Canada recorded a meteor as it entered the Earth's atmosphere over Lake Erie, and scientists at NASA say they have high confidence that pieces of the meteor landed in northern Trumbull County. The fireball entered the atmosphere 54 miles above Lake Erie, traveling south-by-southeast at approximately 55,900 mph. Dr. William Cooke, head of NASA's Meteoroid Environment Office, said debris created Doppler radar echoes west of Hermitage, Pa. The International Astronomical Union defines a fireball as a meteorite brighter than any of the planets. In essence, the mass and speed of the meteor increase its visibility, Cooke said. Cooke said the fragments are about two to three inches in diameter and likely weigh a few ounces. Patrick Durrell, an astronomy professor at Youngstown State University said the fragments can be difficult to identify, but there is at least one telltale sign. If you pick up a rock that feels a lot heavier than you'd expect for its size, that's a good place to start, Durrell said. Durrell and Cooke both said meteorite landings like this one are highly common and occur daily. Jay Reynolds, research astronomer at Cleveland State University, said meteorites like this one are not dangerous, and have no radioactivity but are scientifically very fascinating when you can find them. Reynolds said denser meteorites are usually the ones that make contact with the Earth because they can withstand the pressure of the thicker layers of Earth's atmosphere. He said in this case, the thicker layers caused the meteor to fracture into meteorites. While you won't see something like this coming into this area every night, in and of itself, it's not that uncommon, Durrell said. Cooke said that while meteorite falls are very common, a given point on Earth may only see such a fireball once every couple of decades. What makes this sighting special, Cooke said, is that the meteor was tracked and its trajectory recorded from start to finish. Very few meteorites are tracked on their way down, so this would be very special, Cooke said. Reynolds said many of the meteorites that have been found over time are composed largely of iron and small amounts of nickel and other metal compounds, with carbonaceous cores. Cooke, however, said the composition of this meteor is unknown and will not be determined until a fragment is found and studied. He said the farthest point of the meteor's orbit corresponds with the outer edge of the asteroid belt between the planets of Mars and Jupiter. Should the National Aeronautics and Space Administration retrieve a piece of this meteor, Cooke said, they could determine the compositional differences of matter based on distance from the sun. Of course, that kind of research hinges entirely upon somebody actually finding a piece of meteorite, and so far, Cooke said, nobody has reported one. Residents contacted in Kinsman and Gustavus reported no knowledge of finding any space rock. Nobody mentioned it at lunch today. It's news to me, said Kinsman Township Trustee Tony Gates, who dines regularly with residents of Kinsman and Gustavus. Gustavus Trustee Alan Bradford echoed Gates: I haven't heard anybody say anything about it. © Copyright 2011 Tribune Chronicle | TribToday.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Save | Comments (6) | Post a comment | Phil Whitmer 7th Earl of Sandwich Commoners may call me Ham. Or sometimes Meatball. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Wrongs On EBay
I got this from the moronHe need to be banned from this list. Stew; You already are! You've been on a very interesting list for a long time, now! You would, only, be investigating yourself, and a number of your friends! There's an old axiom that says, just because someone has a diploma on the wall, or a badge on their chest, does not make them good people! You are an excellent example of this! I've added your note, and mine, to your profile, as if they need any more information on you. Have a lovely evening, Butthead!.And, keep your politically motivated unscientific comments to yourself! Steve On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com wrote: Why don’t you get fuckedit obviously isn’t working for you either. Maybe we need to do a little investigating in the fraud department. From: Steve Curry Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:52 PM To: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Subject: STEW Hi, Stew; You are up to your same old tricks, old buddy. Shame, Shame, Shame!!! You need a new profession. This meteorite thing just isn't working for you, is it! This is a field that takes a little thinking research; something you are, totally, unfamiliar with! So, you are a COP! Why don't you do a little, real investigating! like who your real mother was? Love ya!?..NOT NOW!, NOT LATER!, NOT EVER!! Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA -Original Message- From: Walter L. Newton Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 5:24 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Wrongs On EBay Adam, I questioned Steve on his claim that winning bids on his lunar items are 80 percent tax deductible. I found this impossible since his organization is not listed with the IRS as a tax-deductible organization. You can see all that information at the Secretary of the State of Colorado web site, under his filing for his organization... Has the organization applied for or been granted IRS tax exempt status? : No and Are contributions to the organization tax deductible?: No http://www.sos.state.co.us/ccsa/ViewReports.do?evEntityType=COceId=70100ev Id=70100 Steve so politely emailed me the following information... Walter! Walter! Walter!! Shame on you, Dude! Unless you are Cobaltbird, or some other lost soul, or a IMCA LOONIE, you've never, once, emailed me. Thanks for letting me record your statements! I have you in my sights, Buddy! I will take no prisoners!But, I will take your resignation from the IMCA!!! Love ya!.NOT A CHANCE!! Steve ...and... I've got your number, Wally, and I'll be passing it on! Thanks for your input, and let me know when you graduate Jr. High! In the meantime, keep your unprofessional, unethical, discourteous, and unscientific comments to yourself! Just find something else to do, will you? Preferably, something that will benefit someone besides yourself! Steve He's still trying to sell his rhyolitic volcanics on Ebay. I was in his area just a week ago, took a short 4 day Four Corners vacation to ruins, rocks, and state parks. If you're not careful, you'll trip over this junk he tries to sell. Walter L. Newton __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
