Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 97, Issue 54
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:31 AM, meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com wrote: From: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Montrose Meteorites / Steve Curry To: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: BC735D64ED70488A923EDF69626EDD6E@bosoheadPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hello List, What is most interesting for me regarding this Curry guy is why he has an eBay rating of 100%-positive-feedback-with a red-star-4109-transaction history. Some (all!) obviously believe that he's doing/done everything right, and everyone is pleased. Perhaps we should check out other transactions? Any comments? -Richard Montgomery No, that's not Curry's eBay account! durango-onlineoutpost appears to be an eBay sales assistant (one takes stuff to them to list, etc.) They seem unaware of Curry's history with dubious specimens. Regards, Mark Miller __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Big Meteor Fireball over NE Central Texas Meteor 31AUG2011
Dear List, New event with photo and video- Big Meteor Fireball over NE Central Texas Meteor 31AUG2011 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/08/big-meteor-fireball-over-ne-central.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Soledade iron
Hello all, Have put some soledade slices on ebay: Soledade 9g slice http://www.ebay.com/itm/SOLEDADE-METEORITE-Very-Rare-Brazilian-Iron-/330608588046?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4cf9ceb50e Soledade 20.7g slice http://www.ebay.com/itm/SOLEDADE-METEORITE-Very-Rare-Brazilian-Iron-/330608587591?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4cf9ceb347 Name: SOLEDADE Place of find: Soledade, Rio Grande do Sul State, Brazil. 29°3'S., 51°26'W. Date of find: before 1982 mass and type: Iron. Octahedrite, coarse (3 mm). (IAB). Number of individual specimens: 1 Total weight: 68 kg Circumstances of find: A single 68 kg mass was discovered in a garage near Soledade City, Brazil where it was being heated with an acetylene torch and hammered. 6.7% Ni; 98.5 ppm Ga; 420 ppm Ge. Main mass in private hands. Source: (M. E. Zucolotto, Programa de PosGraduacao em Geologia, Instituto de Geosciences, Cidade Universitaria, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil; H. Grunewaldt, C. P. 30, Arrio do Meio, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil; J. T. Wasson, Inst. of Geophysics, Univ. of California, Los Angeles, CA 90024, USA) Thanks Andre IMCA 2731 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD-Conception Junction Pallasite eBay listing
Hello List, As many of you have heard, a new pallasite has just been approved by the Nomenclature Committee on August 29 and is being made available to private collectors and institutions. Conception Junction, Missouri USA http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=53877 Information about this unique and very beautiful pallasite, as well as the remaining material available for sale can be view here: http://www.conceptionjunctionpallasite.com A part-slice (monograph included !) is now available on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/180717960259 Please browse through the website and look in detail at the photos of this very interesting and beautiful new pallasite. This is a very cool new meteorite. Thanks, Karl Aston IMCA 6136 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Mexico Doug
Doug, Why would you suggest that Montrose Altrusa would get involved in arbitrating the Curry phony meteorite controversy? Sandra Lee Tyler is simply a member of Altrusa, and she has a position on their Yearbook Committee. Montrose Altrusa has nothing to do with Steve Curry's charities and scientific organizations. Your suggestion that Montrose Altrusa would have anything to do with these meteorite sales (like the ICMA) is silly. Why would they? And you mention that you haven't seen any of these Curry meteorites. Well, here is some of the crap that he is personally selling... http://www.ebay.com/sch/uncometeorites/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 ... and if you have been reading the thread on Curry, you will realize that he has managed to find other people and businesses in the Western part of the state of Colorado to start selling his junk, both on EBay and in brick and mortar stores. I say some of his junk in a rock shop just 3 weeks ago, in Cimarron, Colorado. The store owner wanted 3000 dollars for a 30 gram iron which looked like a cleaned Nantan. Curry's certificate claim the piece was park of the Montrose Iron fall, which of course doesn't exist. Since the meteorite list is for discussing meteorites, and it's not unusual for the topic of meteor wrongs to come up on the list, I don't know why you would complain about people using bandwidth to discuss Curry and his sludge? Maybe this doesn't idiot Curry doesn't effect you. But it's certainly a black spot on meteorite sellers and collectors, especially ones in Colorado. It's hard enough to sell real meteorites to the general public. Many are not even aware that private individuals can own such material, and when presented with a meteorite, many guffaw and claim how did you get a real meteorite or something similar. Last summer I had about 200 grams of UNWA's in a display at a very popular rock shop up here in the Colorado Rockies, a shop frequented by a lot of summer tourists, and we couldn't move a single gram, mainly because customers would scoff at them, claiming they can't be real. When I started collecting over 10 years ago, I was amazed that something as wonderful as a meteorite could actually be legally owned by myself. People like Curry don't help the situation, not at any time. For me, this is local, for you, this is far removed. Maybe you would be more concerned, more interested if this guy was selling meteor wrongs and mislabeled material in your neighborhood? Just my two cents, Walter L. Newton Website http://newton.acrossthebow.com/ Jewelry http://www.etsy.com/shop/hummingbirdcustom Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Never_Promised_You_a_Rose_Garden_(play) Doug wrote... Since we only see one side of this dispute on the list, If you guys ever tire of sparring with Mr. Curry, why don't you just ask Ms. Sandra Lee, his very respected housemate (listed in the white pages at their same address) whether she can help you resolve your suspicions since she has responsibility in the matter as well. She apparently is a member of the large worldwide organization Altrusa, an NGO which is dedicated to community service for the betterment of the world and especially those less fortunate and I am sure they would take it upon themselves to set the record straight, much like the IMCA does. If you truly think there is something not right about the stones, Ms. Sandra can be reached at : LEETYLER6 at GMAIL.COM according to Mr. Curry's Colorado Charitable organization application in 2011, Google-able on the internet. But if the email doesn't work just call or email the Montrose Altrusa and I'm sure they'll offer to help out in any dispute among its members since as the Chairman/Treasurer of the Charitable organization Mr. Curry is working under, it is actually she who would be responsible for the money generated by the charitable meteorite sales, not Mr. Curry, who is simply the president, according to: http://www.sos.state.co.us/ccsa/ViewReports.do?evEntityType=COceId=70100ev Altrusa Montrose is at: http://www.altrusa.blogspot.com/ However if you contact them and it turns out the rocks are authentic, you should publically apologize profusely. I haven't seen the stones, so actually I don't know anything about this dispute, but it is tying up a lot of bandwidth so that is my 2 centavos. Kindest wishes Doug __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Mexico Doug
Hi Walter, People like Curry don't help the situation, not at any time. For me, this islocal, for you, this is far removed. Maybe you would be more concerned, moreinterested if this guy was selling meteor wrongs and mislabeled material inyour neighborhood?Just my two cents,Walter L. Newton I have to agree with you, Steve Currys meteorites are bogus. I wonder if it would be helpful to focus attention towards educating the Colorado community. What about doing a few meteorite outreach programs in your community to help the public. You could also set up a meteorite display showing the difference between meteorites and meteor wrongs. This would help out tremendously. Sonny www.nevadameteorites.com -Original Message- From: Walter L. Newton new...@acrossthebow.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: mexicodoug mexicod...@aim.com Sent: Wed, Aug 31, 2011 4:17 am Subject: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Mexico Doug Doug,Why would you suggest that Montrose Altrusa would get involved inarbitrating the Curry phony meteorite controversy? Sandra Lee Tyler issimply a member of Altrusa, and she has a position on their YearbookCommittee. Montrose Altrusa has nothing to do with Steve Curry's charitiesand scientific organizations. Your suggestion that Montrose Altrusa wouldhave anything to do with these meteorite sales (like the ICMA) is silly.Why would they?And you mention that you haven't seen any of these Curry meteorites. Well,here is some of the crap that he is personally selling...http://www.ebay.com/sch/uncometeorites/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l25 62... and if you have been reading the thread on Curry, you will realize thathe has managed to find other people and businesses in the Western part ofthe state of Colorado to start selling his junk, both on EBay and in brickand mortar stores. I say some of his junk in a rock shop just 3 weeks ago,in Cimarron, Colorado. The store owner wanted 3000 dollars for a 30 gramiron which looked like a cleaned Nantan. Curry's certificate claim thepiece was park of the Montrose Iron fall, which of course doesn't exist.Since the meteorite list is for discussing meteorites, and it's not unusualfor the topic of meteor wrongs to come up on the list, I don't know why youwould complain about people using bandwidth to discuss Curry and his sludge?Maybe this doesn't idiot Curry doesn't effect you. But it's certainly ablack spot on meteorite sellers and collectors, especially ones in Colorado.It's hard enough to sell real meteorites to the general public. Many are noteven aware that private individuals can own such material, and whenpresented with a meteorite, many guffaw and claim how did you get a realmeteorite or something similar. Last summer I had about 200 grams of UNWA'sin a display at a very popular rock shop up here in the Colorado Rockies, ashop frequented by a lot of summer tourists, and we couldn't move a singlegram, mainly because customers would scoff at them, claiming they can't bereal. When I started collecting over 10 years ago, I was amazed thatsomething as wonderful as a meteorite could actually be legally owned bymyself.People like Curry don't help the situation, not at any time. For me, this islocal, for you, this is far removed. Maybe you would be more concerned, moreinterested if this guy was selling meteor wrongs and mislabeled material inyour neighborhood?Just my two cents,Walter L. Newton Websitehttp://newton.acrossthebow.com/ Jewelryhttp://www.etsy.com/ shop/hummingbirdcustom Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Never_Promised_You_a_Rose_Garden_(play) Doug wrote...Since we only see one side of this dispute on the list, If you guys ever tire of sparring with Mr. Curry, why don't you just ask Ms. Sandra Lee, his very respected housemate (listed in the white pages at their same address) whether she can help you resolve your suspicions since she has responsibility in the matter as well. She apparently is a member of the large worldwide organization Altrusa, an NGO which is dedicated to community service for the betterment of the world and especially those less fortunate and I am sure they would take it upon themselves to set the record straight, much like the IMCA does. If you truly think there is something not right about the stones, Ms. Sandra can be reached at : LEETYLER6 at GMAIL.COM according to Mr. Curry's Colorado Charitable organization application in 2011, Google-able on the internet. But if the email doesn't work just call or email the Montrose Altrusa and I'm sure they'll offer to help out in any dispute among its members since as the Chairman/Treasurer of the Charitable organization Mr. Curry is working under, it is actually she who would be responsible for the money generated by the charitable meteorite sales, not Mr. Curry, who is simply the president, according to:
Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Mexico Doug
Hear! Hear! Walter, Well and truly put... This man is the biggest blight on the sale of meteorites in Colorado of anyone who has come down the pike. My sympathiesand shared frustration, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Walter L. Newton new...@acrossthebow.com Sent: Aug 31, 2011 8:17 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: mexicod...@aim.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Mexico Doug Doug, Why would you suggest that Montrose Altrusa would get involved in arbitrating the Curry phony meteorite controversy? Sandra Lee Tyler is simply a member of Altrusa, and she has a position on their Yearbook Committee. Montrose Altrusa has nothing to do with Steve Curry's charities and scientific organizations. Your suggestion that Montrose Altrusa would have anything to do with these meteorite sales (like the ICMA) is silly. Why would they? And you mention that you haven't seen any of these Curry meteorites. Well, here is some of the crap that he is personally selling... http://www.ebay.com/sch/uncometeorites/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 ... and if you have been reading the thread on Curry, you will realize that he has managed to find other people and businesses in the Western part of the state of Colorado to start selling his junk, both on EBay and in brick and mortar stores. I say some of his junk in a rock shop just 3 weeks ago, in Cimarron, Colorado. The store owner wanted 3000 dollars for a 30 gram iron which looked like a cleaned Nantan. Curry's certificate claim the piece was park of the Montrose Iron fall, which of course doesn't exist. Since the meteorite list is for discussing meteorites, and it's not unusual for the topic of meteor wrongs to come up on the list, I don't know why you would complain about people using bandwidth to discuss Curry and his sludge? Maybe this doesn't idiot Curry doesn't effect you. But it's certainly a black spot on meteorite sellers and collectors, especially ones in Colorado. It's hard enough to sell real meteorites to the general public. Many are not even aware that private individuals can own such material, and when presented with a meteorite, many guffaw and claim how did you get a real meteorite or something similar. Last summer I had about 200 grams of UNWA's in a display at a very popular rock shop up here in the Colorado Rockies, a shop frequented by a lot of summer tourists, and we couldn't move a single gram, mainly because customers would scoff at them, claiming they can't be real. When I started collecting over 10 years ago, I was amazed that something as wonderful as a meteorite could actually be legally owned by myself. People like Curry don't help the situation, not at any time. For me, this is local, for you, this is far removed. Maybe you would be more concerned, more interested if this guy was selling meteor wrongs and mislabeled material in your neighborhood? Just my two cents, Walter L. Newton Website http://newton.acrossthebow.com/ Jewelry http://www.etsy.com/shop/hummingbirdcustom Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Never_Promised_You_a_Rose_Garden_(play) Doug wrote... Since we only see one side of this dispute on the list, If you guys ever tire of sparring with Mr. Curry, why don't you just ask Ms. Sandra Lee, his very respected housemate (listed in the white pages at their same address) whether she can help you resolve your suspicions since she has responsibility in the matter as well. She apparently is a member of the large worldwide organization Altrusa, an NGO which is dedicated to community service for the betterment of the world and especially those less fortunate and I am sure they would take it upon themselves to set the record straight, much like the IMCA does. If you truly think there is something not right about the stones, Ms. Sandra can be reached at : LEETYLER6 at GMAIL.COM according to Mr. Curry's Colorado Charitable organization application in 2011, Google-able on the internet. But if the email doesn't work just call or email the Montrose Altrusa and I'm sure they'll offer to help out in any dispute among its members since as the Chairman/Treasurer of the Charitable organization Mr. Curry is working under, it is actually she who would be responsible for the money generated by the charitable meteorite sales, not Mr. Curry, who is simply the president, according to: http://www.sos.state.co.us/ccsa/ViewReports.do?evEntityType=COceId=70100ev Altrusa Montrose is at: http://www.altrusa.blogspot.com/ However if you contact them and it turns out the rocks are authentic, you should publically apologize profusely. I haven't seen the stones, so actually I don't know anything about this dispute, but it is tying up a lot of bandwidth so that is my 2 centavos. Kindest wishes Doug __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD-Conception Junction Pallasite eBay listing
I took a look; have all the non-ebay specimens been sold? The Specimens section of the site is empty, without even any remnant pictures. The other pix only whet my appetite! I love pallasites, so I will hope for more, but right now Conception Junction looks to be made primarily of Unobtanium. Best! Tracy Latimer Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 09:41:08 -0500 From: stlouismeteori...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] AD-Conception Junction Pallasite eBay listing Hello List, As many of you have heard, a new pallasite has just been approved by the Nomenclature Committee on August 29 and is being made available to private collectors and institutions. Conception Junction, Missouri USA http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=53877 Information about this unique and very beautiful pallasite, as well as the remaining material available for sale can be view here: http://www.conceptionjunctionpallasite.com A part-slice (monograph included !) is now available on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/180717960259 Please browse through the website and look in detail at the photos of this very interesting and beautiful new pallasite. This is a very cool new meteorite. Thanks, Karl Aston IMCA 6136 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Mexico Doug
Steve Curry showed up after watching too many meteorite TV shows which he mentioned by name in his auctions a few years ago. This was about the same time some idiot sent me a several million dollar spent CM1 toilet plunger in the mail against my will. He even accused me of pinching a few hundred grams for myself after I sent it back. What a nightmare this guy was. I think everybody should report his fraudulent auctions at once to eBay. A NOCI form will be filed soon because this freak has enough nerve to compare his terrestrial trash to NWA 5K! Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Mexico Doug
Sonny, We display meteorites and meteor wrongs every month in Denver at the Chamberlin Observatory Open House sponcered by the Denver Astronomical Society. This is a long way from Montrose though. Dan - Original Message - From: wahlpe...@aol.com To: new...@acrossthebow.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; mexicod...@aim.com Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Mexico Doug Hi Walter, People like Curry don't help the situation, not at any time. For me, this islocal, for you, this is far removed. Maybe you would be more concerned, moreinterested if this guy was selling meteor wrongs and mislabeled material inyour neighborhood?Just my two cents,Walter L. Newton I have to agree with you, Steve Currys meteorites are bogus. I wonder if it would be helpful to focus attention towards educating the Colorado community. What about doing a few meteorite outreach programs in your community to help the public. You could also set up a meteorite display showing the difference between meteorites and meteor wrongs. This would help out tremendously. Sonny www.nevadameteorites.com Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.htmlMeteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/li stinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD-Conception Junction Pallasite eBay listing
Hi Tracy, You have to enable scripts of www.conceptionjunctionpallasite.com to see the pictures. Best wishes Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: tracy latimer daist...@hotmail.com Gesendet: 31.08.2011 18:31:53 An: stlouismeteori...@gmail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] AD-Conception Junction Pallasite eBay listing I took a look; have all the non-ebay specimens been sold? The Specimens section of the site is empty, without even any remnant pictures. The other pix only whet my appetite! I love pallasites, so I will hope for more, but right now Conception Junction looks to be made primarily of Unobtanium. Best! Tracy Latimer Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 09:41:08 -0500 From: stlouismeteori...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] AD-Conception Junction Pallasite eBay listing Hello List, As many of you have heard, a new pallasite has just been approved by the Nomenclature Committee on August 29 and is being made available to private collectors and institutions. Conception Junction, Missouri USA http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=53877 Information about this unique and very beautiful pallasite, as well as the remaining material available for sale can be view here: http://www.conceptionjunctionpallasite.com A part-slice (monograph included !) is now available on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/180717960259 Please browse through the website and look in detail at the photos of this very interesting and beautiful new pallasite. This is a very cool new meteorite. Thanks, Karl Aston IMCA 6136 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] eBay Top Ten Meteorites
The top ten meteorites currently running on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/sch/Meteorites-Tektites-/3239/i.html?_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A5213rt=nc_sticky=1_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_sop=16_sc=1 Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Walter L. Newton
Adam, Definitely worth a try, but what can you present to show you own an NWA official number as intellectual property. Can a Nom Com official meteorite name be trademarked, and does anybody own anything once it is published in the scientific literature? There should be some marketing rights as you suggest, but I think they would be limited to an argument of defamation of all authentic vendors of NWA 5K, in the sense of potentially libelous statements that are not properly researched with the intent to draw sales away from NWA 5K, if I understand your unwanted predicament. Come to think of it NWA 5K is a trademarkable product, but probably not with the number 5000 which is public domain. I have never seen a dealer trademark a meteorite in this way, but why not? It would allow claims beyond the basics and in some instance could be a useful marketing tool. At the moment, though, it looks like NWA 5K is not trademarked, though this might give some dealers ideas on how to distinguish their noteworthy products: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=loginp_lang=englishp_d=trmk Walter - As I mentioned before I have nothing further to say in the solutions department than already posted, and if that doesn't work for you - good luck in finding something constructive to do that will solve this problem that seems to have caused many unnecessary frustrations in the meteorite community. Doug -Original Message- From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, Aug 31, 2011 1:13 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Mexico Doug Steve Curry showed up after watching too many meteorite TV shows which he mentioned by name in his auctions a few years ago. This was about the same time some idiot sent me a several million dollar spent CM1 toilet plunger in the mail against my will. He even accused me of pinching a few hundred grams for myself after I sent it back. What a nightmare this guy was. I think everybody should report his fraudulent auctions at once to eBay. A NOCI form will be filed soon because this freak has enough nerve to compare his terrestrial trash to NWA 5K! Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] eBay Top Ten Meteorites
We should probably stop calling them the Top Ten and just call it the Ten Highest Priced. I mean, how do you rate something as top ten? If I felt like it, I could pay a few dollars and list ten random meteorites at $10,000,000 each and claim all top ten spots if we're going by price alone. - Yinan On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 1:48 PM, JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com wrote: The top ten meteorites currently running on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/sch/Meteorites-Tektites-/3239/i.html?_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A5213rt=nc_sticky=1_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_sop=16_sc=1 Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD-Stunning New Eucrite, Diogenite meteorites
Aloha listoids, I am pleased to announce a pair of new HED meteorites that I am sure you will find quite interesting. NWA 6927 diogenite. A lot of 5 freshly crusted stones weighing 114g was purchased from a Moroccan dealer in March 2011. The meteorite was professionally cut and prepared by Montana Meteorite Laboratory and a sample submitted to Dr Tony Irving for analysis toward classification. This is a beautiful representation of a fresh diogenite, featuring stunning orthopyroxene crystals throughout a matrix speckled with abundant chromite and nickel-iron inclusions. Full slices of this meteorite have a polished finish on one side and come in a quality labeled large display box for protection and years of viewing pleasure. Scale cube is 1cm on each side and not included in the sale. NWA 6927 is available now on a first come, first served basis. http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/NWA6927.html NWA 6928 NORITIC DIOGENITE. At first glance this specimen was thought to be an unbrecciated basaltic eucrite, but after additional O isotope analysis, Dr Tony Irving believes that this is a rare specimen related to diogenites, as in fact one of only three known noritic diogenites. Scientists at University of Washington, among other research institutes, have been involved in a revision of the terminology for diogenites, expanding them from typical varieties (now called orthopyroxenitic diogenites) to harzburgitic diogenites (what we used to call olivine diogenites) and dunitic diogenites (like NWA 2968 and NWA 5784), and even to those with 10% plagioclase (logically noritic diogenites). NWA 6928 can in no way be a eucrite, because the pyroxene is not pigeonite, but instead orthopyroxene (with a composition way more magnesian and in the range for diogenites). Inclusions of chromite are present, and exhibits similar evidence for shock (undulose extinction, cataclasis) to tha t seen typically in (orthopyroxenitic) diogenites. Dr Irving has conferred with Dr Ted Bunch on this analysis, who concurs. There is no doubt this is an intriguing new meteorite, but until I receive the formal report from Dr Irving, all sales of NWA 6928 are suspended (previous sales will be honored). In the meantime, to whet your appetite for this rare and intriguing new meteorite, here are pictures of the uncut stone and polished slice: NWA 6928 uncut stone http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/Images/NWA6928-MMa.jpg NWA 6928 polished slice http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/Images/NWA6928-7.79a.jpg Thanks for looking and have a great day! Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Mexico Doug
I reported all his auctions as fraudulent, as well as every auction of a Montrose Iron. If everyone on the list did this it might help draw attention to this schemer. -Michael in so. Cal. On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Dan Wray daniel_w...@comcast.net wrote: Sonny, We display meteorites and meteor wrongs every month in Denver at the Chamberlin Observatory Open House sponcered by the Denver Astronomical Society. This is a long way from Montrose though. Dan - Original Message - From: wahlpe...@aol.com To: new...@acrossthebow.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; mexicod...@aim.com Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Mexico Doug Hi Walter, People like Curry don't help the situation, not at any time. For me, this islocal, for you, this is far removed. Maybe you would be more concerned, moreinterested if this guy was selling meteor wrongs and mislabeled material inyour neighborhood?Just my two cents,Walter L. Newton I have to agree with you, Steve Currys meteorites are bogus. I wonder if it would be helpful to focus attention towards educating the Colorado community. What about doing a few meteorite outreach programs in your community to help the public. You could also set up a meteorite display showing the difference between meteorites and meteor wrongs. This would help out tremendously. Sonny www.nevadameteorites.com Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.htmlMeteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/li stinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Walter L. Newton
Hi Greg C If you wanted to market a meteorite, and trademark it: Let's say you have NWA 6658 and wanted to distinguish your product because you held a huge mass of it and were heavily invested. While I am totally in agreement with your thought about the official scientific literature name assignment as I posted before too, a trademark need not be the exact nomcom assignment. You could enjoy all the benefits of a trademarked meteorite name for example if you registered MES-6658, which is not a scientific name but rather your assigned commercial name. I am not trying to be a marketing department here so forgive me if the names aren't sexy enough that I use for illustration. If Haag, for example, wishes to market his Esquel like this, there is no reason I see why he couldn't trademark PerEsquel (and allow his customers to use the name as well) or some better thought out name to emphasize he is a major supplier of it and it cvontains precious stones - peridots. I have mixed feelings about such trademarking, but in some cases it could make sense. Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com To: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com; raremeteori...@yahoo.com raremeteori...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, Aug 31, 2011 1:58 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Walter L. Newton I dont think we (those who have NWA numbers assigned to meteorites) actually own the number. Its my understanding that the number is simply a designation given to a meteorite to identify it. Dont think trademarks or copyrights would apply. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To: raremeteori...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Walter L. Newton Adam, Definitely worth a try, but what can you present to show you own an NWA official number as intellectual property. Can a Nom Com official meteorite name be trademarked, and does anybody own anything once it is published in the scientific literature? There should be some marketing rights as you suggest, but I think they would be limited to an argument of defamation of all authentic vendors of NWA 5K, in the sense of potentially libelous statements that are not properly researched with the intent to draw sales away from NWA 5K, if I understand your unwanted predicament. Come to think of it NWA 5K is a trademarkable product, but probably not with the number 5000 which is public domain. I have never seen a dealer trademark a meteorite in this way, but why not? It would allow claims beyond the basics and in some instance could be a useful marketing tool. At the moment, though, it looks like NWA 5K is not trademarked, though this might give some dealers ideas on how to distinguish their noteworthy products: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=loginp_lang=englishp_d=trmk Walter - As I mentioned before I have nothing further to say in the solutions department than already posted, and if that doesn't work for you - good luck in finding something constructive to do that will solve this problem that seems to have caused many unnecessary frustrations in the meteorite community. Doug -Original Message- From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, Aug 31, 2011 1:13 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Mexico Doug Steve Curry showed up after watching too many meteorite TV shows which he mentioned by name in his auctions a few years ago. This was about the same time some idiot sent me a several million dollar spent CM1 toilet plunger in the mail against my will. He even accused me of pinching a few hundred grams for myself after I sent it back. What a nightmare this guy was. I think everybody should report his fraudulent auctions at once to eBay. A NOCI form will be filed soon because this freak has enough nerve to compare his terrestrial trash to NWA 5K! Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at
[meteorite-list] Kenya Greenhouse Hammer Stone Kits - AD
Dear List, I would like to introduce my latest project that I have been working on the last four days, Greenhouse Hammer Stone Kits from the July 16, 2011 meteorite fall in Mwana Wikio, Kenya. These kits include a fragment from the 001 or 002 stones along with a piece of greenhouse roof material from which these stones struck. I would also like to offer the reassembled Greenhouse 002 stone as a single offering of the six main pieces that have a combined weight of 322 grams. If I do not receive an offer that meets my minimum for the six pieces within a couple days, I will offer the pieces individually, also at the same per-gram rate. If you are interested in the reassembled mass, or any of the six main pieces, please email me for the prices, or feel free to make offers on the reassembled mass or individual pieces. I made a small number of Large and Small kits which will have a set price. Here is the complete list of what is currently available, I hope you enjoy these as much as I have creating them! Mwana Wikio, Kenya Fell ~ July 16, 2011 Greenhouse 002 Hammer Stone – Reassembled Kenya Greenhouse 002 Hammer Stone - 322g (six main pieces) 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/Kenya2011/kenya330g1.jpg 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/Kenya2011/kenya330g2.jpg 3) http://www.lunarrock.com/Kenya2011/kenya330g3.jpg Individual Fragments from Greenhouse 002 Stone (six main pieces, TKW 330g): 156.4g 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse002_frags/Greenhouse002a.jpg 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse002_frags/Greenhouse002b.jpg 66.4g 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse002_frags/Greenhouse002c.jpg 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse002_frags/Greenhouse002d.jpg 57.4g 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse002_frags/Greenhouse002e.jpg 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse002_frags/Greenhouse002f.jpg 35g 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse002_frags/Greenhouse002g.jpg 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse002_frags/Greenhouse002h.jpg 3.346g 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse002_frags/Greenhouse002i.jpg 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse002_frags/Greenhouse002j.jpg 3.27g 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse002_frags/Greenhouse002k.jpg 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse002_frags/Greenhouse002l.jpg Greenhouse Hammer Stone Kits Image of Greenhouse 001 Kit – Small (front back) http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/KenyaGreenhouse001kit_small.jpg Image of Greenhouse 001 Kit - Large (front back) http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/KenyaGreenhouse001kit_large.jpg Image of Greenhouse 002 Kit - Small (front back) http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/KenyaGreenhouse002kit_small.jpg Image of Greenhouse 002 Kit - Large (front back) http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/KenyaGreenhouse002kit_large.jpg Greenhouse 001 (TKW 427g) Large Kits (box measures 83mm x 58mm) 778mg http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse001_kits/img_0099.jpg 268mg http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse001_kits/img_0100.jpg 104mg – with crust http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse001_kits/img_0101.jpg Small Kits (box measures 35mm x 55mm) 104mg – with crust http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse001_kits/img_0102.jpg 96mg http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse001_kits/img_0103.jpg 88mg http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse001_kits/img_0104.jpg 80mg – with crust http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse001_kits/img_0105.jpg 78mg – with crust http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse001_kits/img_0106.jpg 70mg http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse001_kits/img_0107.jpg 38mg http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse001_kits/img_0108.jpg 36mg – with crust http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse001_kits/img_0109.jpg 24mg – with crust http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse001_kits/img_0110.jpg Greenhouse 002 (TKW 330g) Large Kits (box measures 83mm x 58mm) 1.778g – with crust http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse002_kits/img_0086.jpg 1.438g – with crust http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse002_kits/img_0087.jpg 776mg – with crust http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse002_kits/img_0088.jpg 218mg http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse002_kits/img_0089.jpg Small Kits (box measures 35mm x 55mm) 106mg #1 http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse002_kits/img_0090.jpg 106mg #2 http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse002_kits/img_0091.jpg 96mg – with crust http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse002_kits/img_0092.jpg 58mg http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse002_kits/img_0093.jpg 56mg http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse002_kits/img_0094.jpg 46mg http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse002_kits/img_0095.jpg 30mg http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse002_kits/img_0096.jpg 14mg – with crust http://www.lunarrock.com/kenya2011/Greenhouse002_kits/img_0097.jpg 12mg – with crust
[meteorite-list] eBay Top Ten Highest Priced Items Represented as Meteorites
Yinan: This is what I meant to say: At any given time a search of the the highest priced items listed in eBay's Meteorite and Tektite category shows that around 80% are obvious meteorwrongs. eBay Top Ten Highest Priced Items Represented and Misrepresented as Meteorites: http://www.ebay.com/sch/Meteorites-Tektites-/3239/i.html?_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A5213rt=nc_sticky=1_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_sop=16_sc=1 Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites
Hi Adam, I really don't understand what your point is with the CM1. You don't see me talking trash about your Lunars or any of your other meteorites.So next time someone sends me a suspected Lunar I could compare it as a wannabe achondrite, ( lunar feldspathic Breccia) toilet plug / Ford Block. Sonny -Original Message- From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, Aug 31, 2011 6:13 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Mexico Doug Steve Curry showed up after watching too many meteorite TV shows which he mentioned by name in his auctions a few years ago.This was about the same time some idiot sent me a several million dollar spent CM1 toilet plunger in the mail against my will. He even accused me of pinching a few hundred grams for myself after I sent it back. What a nightmare this guy was.I think everybody should report his fraudulent auctions at once to eBay. A NOCI form will be filed soon because this freak has enough nerve to compare his terrestrial trash to NWA 5K!Adam__Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.htmlMeteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/li stinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Mexico Doug
List, At Mr. Evan's suggestion (and a good one at that, thanks!), please refer to the picture at the link below. I have circled the report item link location (found beneath Other Item Info for all auctions). Simply click this link, choose the appropriate pull downs from the subsequent screen, and report the item. http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/3945/reportv.jpg Best, Michael in so. Cal. Uploaded with [URL=http://imageshack.us]ImageShack.us[/URL] On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:17 AM, bobe5...@comcast.net wrote: Michael, Not everyone on this list is familiar with the simple procedure to report a fraudulent auction on ebay. Perhaps if you provided the simple steps to do so more people would be inclined to act upon it. Just a suggestion, Bob Evans From: Michael Mulgrew mikest...@gmail.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 1:08:32 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Mexico Doug I reported all his auctions as fraudulent, as well as every auction of a Montrose Iron. If everyone on the list did this it might help draw attention to this schemer. -Michael in so. Cal. On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Dan Wray daniel_w...@comcast.net wrote: Sonny, We display meteorites and meteor wrongs every month in Denver at the Chamberlin Observatory Open House sponcered by the Denver Astronomical Society. This is a long way from Montrose though. Dan - Original Message - From: wahlpe...@aol.com To: new...@acrossthebow.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; mexicod...@aim.com Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Mexico Doug Hi Walter, People like Curry don't help the situation, not at any time. For me, this islocal, for you, this is far removed. Maybe you would be more concerned, moreinterested if this guy was selling meteor wrongs and mislabeled material inyour neighborhood?Just my two cents,Walter L. Newton I have to agree with you, Steve Currys meteorites are bogus. I wonder if it would be helpful to focus attention towards educating the Colorado community. What about doing a few meteorite outreach programs in your community to help the public. You could also set up a meteorite display showing the difference between meteorites and meteor wrongs. This would help out tremendously. Sonny www.nevadameteorites.com Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.htmlMeteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/li stinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites / Michael Mulgrew
Hi Michael - Good post in general, I was not familiar with how to report a fradulent auction on eBay! Another outlet which the FBI and interstate commerce as well as eBay can get involved in is the IC#: http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx Doug -Original Message- From: Michael Mulgrew mikest...@gmail.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, Aug 31, 2011 2:44 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Mexico Doug List, At Mr. Evan's suggestion (and a good one at that, thanks!), please refer to the picture at the link below. I have circled the report item link location (found beneath Other Item Info for all auctions). Simply click this link, choose the appropriate pull downs from the subsequent screen, and report the item. http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/3945/reportv.jpg Best, Michael in so. Cal. Uploaded with [URL=http://imageshack.us]ImageShack.us[/URL] On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:17 AM, bobe5...@comcast.net wrote: Michael, Not everyone on this list is familiar with the simple procedure to report a fraudulent auction on ebay. Perhaps if you provided the simple steps to do so more people would be inclined to act upon it. Just a suggestion, Bob Evans From: Michael Mulgrew mikest...@gmail.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 1:08:32 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Mexico Doug I reported all his auctions as fraudulent, as well as every auction of a Montrose Iron. If everyone on the list did this it might help draw attention to this schemer. -Michael in so. Cal. On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Dan Wray daniel_w...@comcast.net wrote: Sonny, We display meteorites and meteor wrongs every month in Denver at the Chamberlin Observatory Open House sponcered by the Denver Astronomical Society. This is a long way from Montrose though. Dan - Original Message - From: wahlpe...@aol.com To: new...@acrossthebow.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; mexicod...@aim.com Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Mexico Doug Hi Walter, People like Curry don't help the situation, not at any time. For me, this islocal, for you, this is far removed. Maybe you would be more concerned, moreinterested if this guy was selling meteor wrongs and mislabeled material inyour neighborhood?Just my two cents,Walter L. Newton I have to agree with you, Steve Currys meteorites are bogus. I wonder if it would be helpful to focus attention towards educating the Colorado community. What about doing a few meteorite outreach programs in your community to help the public. You could also set up a meteorite display showing the difference between meteorites and meteor wrongs. This would help out tremendously. Sonny www.nevadameteorites.com Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.htmlMeteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/li stinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites
Hi Sonny and List, I am not trashing your CM1 at all. I think it is a fantastic stone. It is just that some idiot saw it on television and thought he had found a larger pairing to it. He sent it to me unsolicited thinking he was the latest millionaire after watching Meteorite Men because of the overinflated prices given on the show. It turned out to be an unidentifiable blob of soft material. Somebody on the List suggested it looked like a tired old old toilet plunger. I posted an image of it to the List. These are the kind of crazy people that are attracted by large numbers thrown in front of the press. Again, I think your CM1 is fantastic! Best Regards, Adam - Original Message - From: wahlpe...@aol.com wahlpe...@aol.com To: raremeteori...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites Hi Adam, I really don't understand what your point is with the CM1. You don't see me talking trash about your Lunars or any of your other meteorites.So next time someone sends me a suspected Lunar I could compare it as a wannabe achondrite, ( lunar feldspathic Breccia) toilet plug / Ford Block. Sonny -Original Message- From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, Aug 31, 2011 6:13 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Mexico Doug Steve Curry showed up after watching too many meteorite TV shows which he mentioned by name in his auctions a few years ago.This was about the same time some idiot sent me a several million dollar spent CM1 toilet plunger in the mail against my will. He even accused me of pinching a few hundred grams for myself after I sent it back. What a nightmare this guy was.I think everybody should report his fraudulent auctions at once to eBay. A NOCI form will be filed soon because this freak has enough nerve to compare his terrestrial trash to NWA 5K!Adam__Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.htmlMeteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/li stinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites
Here are photos that I took of rocks that Mr. Curry claimed (January, 2010) to be lunar meteorites, except for one (J in the photos) which he believes is from one of the four Moons of Jupiter, Neptune's Moon, Titan, or quite possibly, from a biologically active planet in Deep Interstellar Space. I'm really happy to have that one. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/meteorwrongs/unco.htm As impact breccia look-alikes, I'm fond of B and K, but I suspect that they're both terrestrial volcaniclastic rocks. Randy Korotev St. Louis __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] laboratory analysis or authentication tests by IMCA.
Hello all, No, I am sorry but the IMCA does not have a lab, and does not do classification. However we are extremely lucky that so many of our brightest scientists are willing to drop whatever they are doing to look at any questionable rocks we send to them, we will never thank them enough. Also, this specimen is tiny, one single milligram!!! I am not sure something that small could be identified with any degree of certainty. So you will have to trust the seller, and no, I don't know who that seller is. Maybe he is on this List, or maybe someone on this List has bought from him and could tell us about him. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _IMPACTIKA@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 8/31/2011 2:25:22 PM Mountain Daylight Time, meteoritem...@gmail.com writes: Here is a new one. I don't know who the seller is, but reading the description makes it sound like the IMCA has gone into the classification and testing business. Here is the listing - http://www.ebay.com/itm/320545062899 The line to note is at the end of the description - These meteorites are guaranteed authentic for life and you will receive a full refund, including shipping, if these do not pass laboratory analysis or authentication tests by IMCA. The seller's feedback isn't too great either. -- - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Super nice oriented NWA Achondrite-Eucrite!!!
Hey List, I have a very nice oriented Eucrite for sale . The TKW is about 500g and the piece has 470g the rest of the Material was for the classification. The piece has fresh crust with great flowlines. The Matrix is grey with very nice green crystals. Like you can see the piece has a crack in the middle but this was already when it was found so its not a fresh crack. I am open for offers. So make an offer if you are interested. Money will be the best but maybe also trade for other meteorites. Here is one pic: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/January_7_2011.html I can also send more pics via Mail! Cheers David __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] GRAIL/NPP/MSL Update - August 31, 2011
Aug. 31, 2011 George H. Diller Kennedy Space Center, Fla. 321-867-2468 george.h.dil...@nasa.gov STATUS REPORT: ELV-083111 EXPENDABLE LAUNCH VEHICLE STATUS REPORT Spacecraft: GRAIL (Gravity Recovery and Interior Laboratory) Launch Vehicle: Delta II 7920 Heavy Launch Site: Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Fla. Launch Pad: Space Launch Complex 17B Launch Date: Sept. 8, 2011 Launch Times: 8:37:06 a.m. and 9:16:12 a.m. EDT GRAIL was moved from the Astrotech payload processing facility in Titusville to Pad 17B at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station on Aug. 18 and hoisted atop the Delta II rocket. The encapsulation into the payload fairing was performed on Aug. 23. Wednesday, the spacecraft was powered on for final testing. Also on Wednesday, the Flight Readiness Review was held and at its conclusion a tentative go was given for fueling the Delta II rocket Sept. 1 and 2. GRAIL's primary science objectives are to determine the structure of the lunar interior, from crust to core, and to advance understanding of the thermal evolution of the moon. Spacecraft: NPP (NPOESS Preparatory Project) Launch Vehicle: Delta II 7920 Launch Site: Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif. Launch Pad: Space Launch Complex 2 Launch Date: Oct. 25, 2011 Launch Window: 2:48:01 a.m. - 2:57:11 a.m. PDT (9 min., 10 sec.) Orbital Altitude: 512 miles The NPOESS Preparatory Project (NPP) spacecraft arrived at Vandenberg Air Force Base on Aug. 30 as scheduled. Removal of the satellite from its environmentally controlled shipping container now is under way. At Space Launch Complex 2, the Delta II rocket first stage was hoisted into position on the pad July 20. The nine solid rocket boosters were attached between July 28 and Aug. 1. The second stage was hoisted atop the first stage on Aug. 2. Testing of the launch vehicle continues. NPP represents a critical first step in building the next-generation of Earth-observing satellites. NPP will carry the first of the new sensors developed for this satellite fleet, now known as the Joint Polar Satellite System (JPSS) to be launched in 2016. NPP is the bridge between NASA's Earth Observing System (EOS) satellites and the forthcoming series of JPSS satellites. The mission will test key technologies and instruments for the JPSS missions. Spacecraft: Mars Science Laboratory (Curiosity) Launch Vehicle: Atlas V-541 (AV-028) Launch Site: Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Fla. Launch Pad: Space Launch Complex 41 Launch Date: Nov. 25, 2011 Launch Time: 10:21 a.m. EST At Kennedy Space Center, functional testing of Curiosity is finished. Work has been completed to stow the rover's components, including the remote sensing mast, robotic arm, wheels and mobility system. The rover has now been rotated to wheels up in preparation for integration with the other Mars Science Laboratory components. The Atlas V rocket for the mission is at the Atlas Spaceflight Operations Center at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station. The Atlas and Centaur stages are undergoing initial checkout before being transported to Launch Complex 41. The Atlas stage will be transported to the Vertical Integration Facility on Sept. 8 and followed by the Centaur on Sept. 9. This is an Atlas V-541 configuration that will have four solid rocket boosters attached. The rover's 10 science instruments will search for signs of life, including methane, and help determine if the gas is from a biological or geological source. The unique rover will use a laser to look inside rocks and release the gasses so that its spectrometer can analyze and send the data back to Earth. Previous status reports are available at: http://www.nasa.gov/centers/kennedy/launchingrockets/status/index.html -end- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD- offering a huge, complete slice of Abee for sale
Hello fellow list members, I am offering for sale this spectacular complete slice of Abee. It measures 7mm x 260mm x 374mm and it weighs 1675 grams. I bought this gorgeous specimen from David New who got it from his longtime friend Russ Kempton. This is the last full Abee slice to be had. What a spectacular meteorite! This slice was featured on the front cover of Meteorite magazine in November of 1996 and was featured as the CENTERPIECE article in that issue Volume 2 No. 4. I don't know that any of these complete slices are in private collections but there are a few that are preserved in museum collections. This final slice is available for purchase. Please feel free to contact me off list if you have interest in buying this amazing specimen. etmeteori...@hotmail.com Please check out the photos of this slice below. Sincere regards Edwin (E.T.) http://s1110.photobucket.com/albums/h443/etmeteorites/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT Juno Looks Back Home
Hi, All, While there's a lull, here's one of the most awing astrophotos I've ever seen: Jupiter-Bound Space Probe Captures Earth And Moon PASADENA, Calif. – On its way to the biggest planet in the solar system -- Jupiter, NASA's Juno spacecraft took time to capture its home planet and its natural satellite -- the moon. http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2011-271cid=release_2011-271msource=11271tr=yauid=9405191 http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2011-271cid=release_2011-271msource=11271tr=yauid=9405191 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
