[meteorite-list] Show - Final Offer
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
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[meteorite-list] OOps - wrong link!
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[meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt?
Hey List, I just got in some slices of Sutter's Mill. So I have a question, do carbonaceous chondrites ever have impact melt zones in them? Steve Arnold Host of Meteorite Men Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt?
A few CK6s have impact-melt zones within them, but I haven't seen any such zones in a CM. Alan Rubin Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics University of California 3845 Slichter Hall 603 Charles Young Dr. E Los Angeles, CA 90095-1567 phone: 310-825-3202 e-mail: aeru...@ucla.edu website: http://cosmochemists.igpp.ucla.edu/Rubin.html - Original Message - From: meteorh...@aol.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:57 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt? Hey List, I just got in some slices of Sutter's Mill. So I have a question, do carbonaceous chondrites ever have impact melt zones in them? Steve Arnold Host of Meteorite Men Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt?
Well Mike, If I can add a measly 10% to the body of knowledge of this meteorite, by sacrificing one little stone (heck if I can help add 1/10 of 1%) I think that would be great. My guess is that a lot of these stones that are going into both institutional and private collections won't ever be broken up much less in a non contaminated way and they will sit as whole stones behind glass for thousands of years. Nothing wrong with that at all. I'm just saying that one might gather from your post below that you were implying in a self righteous manner that I might have done something horribly wrong by having one of these (already contaminated) meteorites sliced? Of course there are opportunity costs in any course of action one takes. The slices I have now, while they are not useful anymore for SOME research and some examination purposes, they are however are VERY interesting (at least to me) in what they show. I see things that quite frankly, I am not sure one can see from a broken fragment. I am sure a thin section would show much of this better, but then of course, one would really be destroying a lot of material to get a thin section. (Look out Anne and E.T., there might be an IMCA violation in there somewhere toward you guys. - just kidding) Anyway, I think any researcher who will want to purchase any of my slices will be quite aware of the research limitations that the cutting has placed on the slices. But thanks for your concern Mike. Steve Arnold Host of Meteorite Men Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 10:06:51 To: meteorh...@aol.commeteorh...@aol.com Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt? Steve, are you aware that slicing this meteorite is destroying 90% of the minerals and science value of it? It is an extremely rare meteorite and cutting does far more damage than breaking. We are having a 19 gram individual broken up in the UofA laboratory now and cutting was absolutely ruled out Due to the damage it would cause, even dry. While slice must be beautiful and I would love to see the pics, it should really not be done on this meteorite. FYI Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On May 17, 2012, at 9:57 AM, meteorh...@aol.com wrote: Hey List, I just got in some slices of Sutter's Mill. So I have a question, do carbonaceous chondrites ever have impact melt zones in them? Steve Arnold Host of Meteorite Men Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt?
Hello Steve, Alan and List, Back from watching the Mundrabilla episode of Steve and Geoff! Great episode! But let's now move on to Steve's question. Steve inquired: ...do carbonaceous chondrites ever have impact melt zones in them? According to my database queries, impact melt (clasts) have been found in Kaidun (CR2)* and in NWA 1814 (CB3a). *ZOLENSKY M. et al. (2001) Kaidun: A smorgasbord of new asteroid samples (MAPS 36-9, 2001, A233). Shock melts have been found in QUE 94411 (CBb) and HaH 237 (CBb)*: *MEIBOM A. et al. (2000) Metal/sulfide-ferrous silicate shock melts in QUE 94411 and HaH 237: Remains of the missing matrix? (abs. Lunar Planet. Sci. 31, abstract #1420, Lunar and Planetary Institute, Houston, Texas, USA, CD-ROM). ... and about QUE 99038 (CM2), Kathleen McBride wrote: This carbonaceous chondrite has a dark gray to blackish crust, but appears to be a m e l t e d g l o b of chondrules spread over the entire exterior of the rock (AMN 24-1, Feb 2001, p. 12). Cheers, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt?
By the way Mike, Good on ya as they say in Australia, to you and Greg both, on the donation to the U of A. It was a good thing to do and you all spun some great PR for the meteorite community out of the event as well. Not always an easy thing to pull off. I suppose in 2 years or so, when the papers are published, and this gets named and classified, we will all start to appreciate what we have here. It is a bit unfortunate that meteoritical laws require that information not be made public until after the papers are peer reviewed, presented and published. Steve Arnold Host of Meteorite Men Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 10:56:26 To: meteorh...@aol.commeteorh...@aol.com Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt? Steve, not saying anything bad, simply letting you know what the lab told me, hopefully before many other people decide to cut pieces. This meteorite when broken, retains all minerals, crystals (and there are Many) volatiles etc, even when down to the smallest pieces. Again, you can do anything you want, I am not stopping you. Just letting you know that this is one of the rarest Meteorites we have ever seen, that's why Greg and I decided to donate some grams to the UOfA. I really hope most is preserved in the best forms possible for future science. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On May 17, 2012, at 10:43 AM, meteorh...@aol.com wrote: Well Mike, If I can add a measly 10% to the body of knowledge of this meteorite, by sacrificing one little stone (heck if I can help add 1/10 of 1%) I think that would be great. My guess is that a lot of these stones that are going into both institutional and private collections won't ever be broken up much less in a non contaminated way and they will sit as whole stones behind glass for thousands of years. Nothing wrong with that at all. I'm just saying that one might gather from your post below that you were implying in a self righteous manner that I might have done something horribly wrong by having one of these (already contaminated) meteorites sliced? Of course there are opportunity costs in any course of action one takes. The slices I have now, while they are not useful anymore for SOME research and some examination purposes, they are however are VERY interesting (at least to me) in what they show. I see things that quite frankly, I am not sure one can see from a broken fragment. I am sure a thin section would show much of this better, but then of course, one would really be destroying a lot of material to get a thin section. (Look out Anne and E.T., there might be an IMCA violation in there somewhere toward you guys. - just kidding) Anyway, I think any researcher who will want to purchase any of my slices will be quite aware of the research limitations that the cutting has placed on the slices. But thanks for your concern Mike. Steve Arnold Host of Meteorite Men Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 10:06:51 To: meteorh...@aol.commeteorh...@aol.com Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt? Steve, are you aware that slicing this meteorite is destroying 90% of the minerals and science value of it? It is an extremely rare meteorite and cutting does far more damage than breaking. We are having a 19 gram individual broken up in the UofA laboratory now and cutting was absolutely ruled out Due to the damage it would cause, even dry. While slice must be beautiful and I would love to see the pics, it should really not be done on this meteorite. FYI Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On May 17, 2012, at 9:57 AM, meteorh...@aol.com wrote: Hey List, I just got in some slices of Sutter's Mill. So I have a question, do carbonaceous chondrites ever have impact melt zones in them? Steve Arnold Host of Meteorite Men Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt?
CM6 perhaps? -Original Message- From: Alan Rubin Sent: 17 May 2012 17:06:15 GMT To: meteorh...@aol.com,Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt? A few CK6s have impact-melt zones within them, but I haven't seen any such zones in a CM. Alan Rubin Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics University of California 3845 Slichter Hall 603 Charles Young Dr. E Los Angeles, CA 90095-1567 phone: 310-825-3202 e-mail: aeru...@ucla.edu website: http://cosmochemists.igpp.ucla.edu/Rubin.html - Original Message - From: meteorh...@aol.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:57 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt? Hey List, I just got in some slices of Sutter's Mill. So I have a question, do carbonaceous chondrites ever have impact melt zones in them? Steve Arnold Host of Meteorite Men Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt?
Hi Steve, You are cruel sending an e-mail like this without a link to a photo. Thanks, Peter -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of meteorh...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 12:58 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt? Hey List, I just got in some slices of Sutter's Mill. So I have a question, do carbonaceous chondrites ever have impact melt zones in them? Steve Arnold Host of Meteorite Men Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt?
Photos of 0.38 gr slice http://s361.photobucket.com/albums/oo52/stevearnoldpmh/SM Slice/ Steve Arnold Host of Meteorite Men --Original Message-- From: Peter Scherff To: meteorh...@aol.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt? Sent: May 17, 2012 1:52 PM Hi Steve, You are cruel sending an e-mail like this without a link to a photo. Thanks, Peter -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of meteorh...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 12:58 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt? Hey List, I just got in some slices of Sutter's Mill. So I have a question, do carbonaceous chondrites ever have impact melt zones in them? Steve Arnold Host of Meteorite Men Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt?
Oops, Try this: http://s361.photobucket.com/albums/oo52/stevearnoldpmh/SM%20Slice Steve Arnold Host of Meteorite Men Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: meteorh...@aol.com Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 19:24:02 To: Peter Scherffpetersche...@rcn.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Reply-To: meteorh...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt? Photos of 0.38 gr slice http://s361.photobucket.com/albums/oo52/stevearnoldpmh/SM Slice/ Steve Arnold Host of Meteorite Men --Original Message-- From: Peter Scherff To: meteorh...@aol.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt? Sent: May 17, 2012 1:52 PM Hi Steve, You are cruel sending an e-mail like this without a link to a photo. Thanks, Peter -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of meteorh...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 12:58 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt? Hey List, I just got in some slices of Sutter's Mill. So I have a question, do carbonaceous chondrites ever have impact melt zones in them? Steve Arnold Host of Meteorite Men Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt?
I'm not sure what you're referring to with this statement... an entry in MetBull will probably be published very soon. After that, there are no Meteoritical Society bylaws or anything else concerning the release of information. Of course, some authors may not release all of his/her data until such time that they don't get scooped on their research, and journals like Science and Nature have embargoes of articles prior to publication. But MetSoc does not stand in the way of release of information to the public in any way... in fact, it promotes the dissemination of information, e.g., by sponsoring meetings and workshops. Jeff On 5/17/2012 2:19 PM, meteorh...@aol.com wrote: I suppose in 2 years or so, when the papers are published, and this gets named and classified, we will all start to appreciate what we have here. It is a bit unfortunate that meteoritical laws require that information not be made public until after the papers are peer reviewed, presented and published. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt?
Jeff, Of course there are no Laws only it seems like people almost act like there are such restrictions. I should have put the little quotes around the word the first time. Of course there are financial reasons why hunters want to keep some info private at times, for financial reasonsm. And there are probably financial reasons why researchers don't want to invest time and money into researching something only to have some unethical researcher scoop credit or grant money from them if they let info out of the bag too early. Still, it would be nice if that information would be free to everyone as it arrives. Probably ain't gonna happen, but it would still be great wouldn't it? This is super news that a Metbull classification is coming real soon. Do you have any idea when that might happen? By the way, this is FAR better than having to wait a year or longer like in years gone by. It is a wonderful time we live in. Steve Arnold Host of Meteorite Men --Original Message-- From: Jeff Grossman To: meteorh...@aol.com Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt? Sent: May 17, 2012 2:30 PM I'm not sure what you're referring to with this statement... an entry in MetBull will probably be published very soon. After that, there are no Meteoritical Society bylaws or anything else concerning the release of information. Of course, some authors may not release all of his/her data until such time that they don't get scooped on their research, and journals like Science and Nature have embargoes of articles prior to publication. But MetSoc does not stand in the way of release of information to the public in any way... in fact, it promotes the dissemination of information, e.g., by sponsoring meetings and workshops. Jeff On 5/17/2012 2:19 PM, meteorh...@aol.com wrote: I suppose in 2 years or so, when the papers are published, and this gets named and classified, we will all start to appreciate what we have here. It is a bit unfortunate that meteoritical laws require that information not be made public until after the papers are peer reviewed, presented and published. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt?
I can't say when the bulletin announcement may come, only that we try to get these kinds of falls announced as soon as we possibly can. I expect this one to follow suit. Jeff On 5/17/2012 3:45 PM, meteorh...@aol.com wrote: Jeff, Of course there are no Laws only it seems like people almost act like there are such restrictions. I should have put the little quotes around the word the first time. Of course there are financial reasons why hunters want to keep some info private at times, for financial reasonsm. And there are probably financial reasons why researchers don't want to invest time and money into researching something only to have some unethical researcher scoop credit or grant money from them if they let info out of the bag too early. Still, it would be nice if that information would be free to everyone as it arrives. Probably ain't gonna happen, but it would still be great wouldn't it? This is super news that a Metbull classification is coming real soon. Do you have any idea when that might happen? By the way, this is FAR better than having to wait a year or longer like in years gone by. It is a wonderful time we live in. Steve Arnold Host of Meteorite Men --Original Message-- From: Jeff Grossman To: meteorh...@aol.com Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt? Sent: May 17, 2012 2:30 PM I'm not sure what you're referring to with this statement... an entry in MetBull will probably be published very soon. After that, there are no Meteoritical Society bylaws or anything else concerning the release of information. Of course, some authors may not release all of his/her data until such time that they don't get scooped on their research, and journals like Science and Nature have embargoes of articles prior to publication. But MetSoc does not stand in the way of release of information to the public in any way... in fact, it promotes the dissemination of information, e.g., by sponsoring meetings and workshops. Jeff On 5/17/2012 2:19 PM, meteorh...@aol.com wrote: I suppose in 2 years or so, when the papers are published, and this gets named and classified, we will all start to appreciate what we have here. It is a bit unfortunate that meteoritical laws require that information not be made public until after the papers are peer reviewed, presented and published. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill thin sections in HD
Dear list members, I would like to draw your attention to these images: Sutter's Mill thin sections in high definition. Breathtaking! http://www.higp.hawaii.edu/~ogliore/suttersmill/IMG_0032-IMG_0075.htm http://www.higp.hawaii.edu/~ogliore/suttersmill2/IMG_0076-IMG_0104.htm http://noctambulator.wordpress.com/2012/05/17/sutters-mill-thin-section/ You need to have Microsoft's 'HD View' installed to watch these images. http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/groups/ivm/HDView/ Thank you to whoever from the Hawai‘i Institute of Geophysics and Planetology made these available! Best wishes, Martin Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt?
Hi Steve and List, Interesting images, thanks for posting. It certainly looks brecciated in the slice, but I don't see any evidence that it's an impact melt. The brecciation might explain the many small individuals...until we find the multi kilogram main mass of course ;-) Cheers, Frank - Original Message From: meteorh...@aol.com meteorh...@aol.com To: meteorh...@aol.com; Peter Scherff petersche...@rcn.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thu, May 17, 2012 12:30:01 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt? Oops, Try this: http://s361.photobucket.com/albums/oo52/stevearnoldpmh/SM%20Slice Steve Arnold Host of Meteorite Men Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: meteorh...@aol.com Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 19:24:02 To: Peter Scherffpetersche...@rcn.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Reply-To: meteorh...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt? Photos of 0.38 gr slice http://s361.photobucket.com/albums/oo52/stevearnoldpmh/SM Slice/ Steve Arnold Host of Meteorite Men --Original Message-- From: Peter Scherff To: meteorh...@aol.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt? Sent: May 17, 2012 1:52 PM Hi Steve, You are cruel sending an e-mail like this without a link to a photo. Thanks, Peter -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of meteorh...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 12:58 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt? Hey List, I just got in some slices of Sutter's Mill. So I have a question, do carbonaceous chondrites ever have impact melt zones in them? Steve Arnold Host of Meteorite Men Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites at Heritage Natural History Auction this Sunday
Greetings! Heritage has a natural history auction this Sunday and here are just a handful of specimens which may be of interest. Enjoy looking and best of luck. 2.127 gram Agoult End Cap with Fusion Crust and $350 gets it---which includes the buyers commission! http://fineart.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=6068lotNo=49253 Djati Pengilon - 29.8 grams and $250 get it---which includes the buyer's commission http://fineart.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=6068lotNo=49238 Gorgeous Small Partial Slice of Willamette - 12.5 grams and $2500 gets it---which includes the buyer's commission http://fineart.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=6068lotNo=49233 Small Complete Tissint - Nearly five grams and $3750 gets it---which includes the buyer's commission http://fineart.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=6068lotNo=49235 NWA 2871 - Lodranite - 132 gram complete slice http://fineart.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=6068lotNo=49236 NWA 6932 - New Plessitic Iron Unlike Any Previously Seen Meteoritical Bulletin: No close compositional relatives. Enlarge image for fascinating view. http://fineart.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=6068lotNo=49252 Terrific 1108 gram Campo with Naturally Formed Hole and $1,250 gets it---which includes the buyer's commission http://fineart.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=6068lotNo=49247 Lot's of other meteorites and hundreds of fascinating natural history specimens are also being offered. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Maralinga, Murchison, Ivuna, Gujba, Dho 778, Tagish Lake
Hello List I am offering some meteorites for sale. a) Maralinga CK4-AN; 38,20 g full slice for 3700 US$ Slice contain the biggest chondrule for the Maralinga meteorite (~8,5 mm) b) Murchison CM2 34,9 g oriented individual with one open side. From the former Zeitschel collection (no label from him) Price: 6700 US$ . c) Ivuna CI1 fragment 1,75 g for 7000 US$ d) Gujba CB3a 81,05 g full slice (Eric Twelker's logo piece from his webside) The surfaces are polished. Price: 7000 US$ e) Dhofar 778 Diogenite monomict fragmental breccia.It is the remaining mainmass: 67,70 g (from 156 g) / half individual. Compactness and color is comparabel to a Tatahouine. Unique in it's appearance. Surface is high polished. Price: 6500 US$ f) Tagish Lake C2-ung 0,555 g fragment with so far the biggest (~ 3,5 mm) inclusion as I know. Price 850 US$ If you would like to see pictures, I will send it to you via pdf's (one meteorite = one file) You have to reduce the size in the pdf to 25 or 50 % Best regards, Stephan Kambach Stephan Kambach Tumringer Str.254 79539 Lörrach Germany tel: +49 (0) 7621 43930 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Conception Junction, MO
Hello list, Please take a look at North America's newest pallasite find and consider adding a slice of this beautiful material to your collection. Remaining stock is very limited and can be viewed at the link below. http://conceptionjunctionpallasite.com/ Thanks for taking a look. Karl Sent from my iPhone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Jason Utas in Met News
Dear List, List member Jason Utas makes the news: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2012/05/latest-worldwide-meteormeteorite-news_18.html Jason Utas, a junior majoring in geology and psychology at the University of California, Berkeley, developed a passion for meteorites after his father gave him one at age eight. ... Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - Thin-Sections of Sutter Mill
Hi Anne and List... As with ET, no stone yet for me, but the search continues. Becoming a part of TS history would be a nice objective, and I'll consider it...but as with all of us, need to find one first! Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: Anne Black impact...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 6:18 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ad - Thin-Sections of Sutter Mill Speaking of thin-sections (Thank you ET) Yes, I will have a few thin-sections of Sutter Mill in the near future, you just cannot rush the expert! I don't know yet how many there will be, and it will not be many (unless I can get another fragment that is just right shape and size for sectionning!! Hint!! Hint!!) So don't wait, and if you are interested please do let me know. Thanks Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com Vice-President of IMCA www.IMCA.cc __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Cutting Sutter's Mill
Personally, I see nothing wrong with cutting Sutter's Mill. We (as in the scientific community) now have lots of stones and sliced pieces are needed for thin sections, polished mounts, etc. The TKW is well over 300 g - compare this with the really rare carbonaceous chondrites (e.g., Revelstoke - 1 g; Tonk - 7.7 g; Maribo - 25.8 g; Santa Cruz - 60 g; Crescent - 78.4 g etc). I have cut two stones. Both were cut dry, very slowly, and with a super thin wafering blade. I have collected the cutting dust so the cut loss is zero. Even so, both stones broke while about 3/4 the way through the stone. Anyway, in hand specimen, the cut and polished faces are not particularly interesting looking - just black with a few while chondrules and CAIs, and sparse metal/troilite grains. Laurence CMS ASU On May 17, 2012, at 5:43 PM, meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Message: 4 Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 17:43:16 + From: meteorh...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt? To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: 899575154-1337276598-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-403998525-@b3.c18.bise6.blackberry Content-Type: text/plain Well Mike, If I can add a measly 10% to the body of knowledge of this meteorite, by sacrificing one little stone (heck if I can help add 1/10 of 1%) I think that would be great. My guess is that a lot of these stones that are going into both institutional and private collections won't ever be broken up much less in a non contaminated way and they will sit as whole stones behind glass for thousands of years. Nothing wrong with that at all. I'm just saying that one might gather from your post below that you were implying in a self righteous manner that I might have done something horribly wrong by having one of these (already contaminated) meteorites sliced? Of course there are opportunity costs in any course of action one takes. The slices I have now, while they are not useful anymore for SOME research and some examination purposes, they are however are VERY interesting (at least to me) in what they show. I see things that quite frankly, I am not sure one can see from a broken fragment. I am sure a thin section would show much of this better, but then of course, one would really be destroying a lot of material to get a thin section. (Look out Anne and E.T., there might be an IMCA violation in there somewhere toward you guys. - just kidding) Anyway, I think any researcher who will want to purchase any of my slices will be quite aware of the research limitations that the cutting has placed on the slices. But thanks for your concern Mike. Steve Arnold Host of Meteorite Men Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Cutting Sutter's Mill
Personally, I see nothing wrong with cutting Sutter's Mill. We (as in the scientific community) now have lots of stones and sliced pieces are needed for thin sections, polished mounts, etc. The TKW is well over 300 g - compare this with the really rare carbonaceous chondrites (e.g., Revelstoke - 1 g; Tonk - 7.7 g; Maribo - 25.8 g; Santa Cruz - 60 g; Crescent - 78.4 g etc). I have cut two stones. Both were cut dry, very slowly, and with a super thin wafering blade. I have collected the cutting dust so the cut loss is zero. Even so, both stones broke while about 3/4 the way through the stone. Anyway, in hand specimen, the cut and polished faces are not particularly interesting looking - just black with a few while chondrules and CAIs, and sparse metal/troilite grains. Laurence CMS ASU On May 17, 2012, at 5:43 PM, meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Message: 4 Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 17:43:16 + From: meteorh...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt? To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: 899575154-1337276598-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-403998525-@b3.c18.bise6.blackberry Content-Type: text/plain Well Mike, If I can add a measly 10% to the body of knowledge of this meteorite, by sacrificing one little stone (heck if I can help add 1/10 of 1%) I think that would be great. My guess is that a lot of these stones that are going into both institutional and private collections won't ever be broken up much less in a non contaminated way and they will sit as whole stones behind glass for thousands of years. Nothing wrong with that at all. I'm just saying that one might gather from your post below that you were implying in a self righteous manner that I might have done something horribly wrong by having one of these (already contaminated) meteorites sliced? Of course there are opportunity costs in any course of action one takes. The slices I have now, while they are not useful anymore for SOME research and some examination purposes, they are however are VERY interesting (at least to me) in what they show. I see things that quite frankly, I am not sure one can see from a broken fragment. I am sure a thin section would show much of this better, but then of course, one would really be destroying a lot of material to get a thin section. (Look out Anne and E.T., there might be an IMCA violation in there somewhere toward you guys. - just kidding) Anyway, I think any researcher who will want to purchase any of my slices will be quite aware of the research limitations that the cutting has placed on the slices. But thanks for your concern Mike. Steve Arnold Host of Meteorite Men Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Thuathe, Huckitta, Gibeon Jewelry pieces plus several others
Hi All
I added some new items again this week.
Further reduced the previous weeks offerings.
Mike
https://picasaweb.google.com/109538410126952617536/May17201202
Udei Station IAB-ungr Om Tons of silicates in this little piece.
16.6 g $125.00
Thuathe Fell July 21 2002 H4/5
Has number 528 and 15 g on pasted on label. Possibly from the Ambrose catalog.
15.2 g $45.00
Huckitta Pallasite Super thin slice. Has Rocks on Fire label.
4.9 $10.00
Unclassified NWA Mostly NWA 869 but at least two that are different.
212 g $75.00
Chergach Stone H5 fell 2007 Mali
Dealer lots
280.8 g $700.00
Taza(NWA 859) Iron ungrouped Super thin etched slice. See Whole iron below.
13.5 g $200.00
Gibeon Jewelry pieces. I have several of these. They are etched and
coated with some very thick glop that certainly would have to be
removed with a solvent before they could be used. Only the largest
piece is shown.
$15 each or all for $10 each 6 pieces
Camel Donga Eucrite
65.5 g $950
Tamdakht H5 Fell Dec 20 2008
133.3 g $333.00
https://picasaweb.google.com/109538410126952617536/May102012
Campo Del Cielo Iron IAB Og Argentina
Huge high quality whole iron below wholesale.
16 kg $2400 - 10% = $2160
Nice smaller whole iron with great character.
3.64 kg $550 - 10% = $495
Nice silicated end cut. Contains some tiny olivine so it could be
called pallasitic. Does have a couple of rust spots.
432 g $650 - 10% = $585
NWA 869
Large slice
971 g $874.00 - 10% = $786
NWA unclassified lot. Ex Mark Bostick label
35.4 g $20.00 - 10% = $18.00
Taza(NWA 859) Iron ungrouped
31.6 g $190.00 - 10% = $171.00
Zag Stone H3-5 Fell 1998 Western Sahara
4 stone lot
259 g $250.00 - 10% = $225.00
small fragment lot
222 g $200.00 - 10% = $180.00
Phillipinites Tektites Flat piece is very chipped. The photo does not
show that very well.
74.5 g $75.00 - 10% = $67.50
Pultusk Meteorite Coin Cook Islands - Pultusk Meteorite Fragment - $5
- 2008 - Palladium - Proof Silver Crown - Box COA
$150.00 - 10% = $135.00
Nantan Meteorite Coin Palau - Genuine Nantan Meteorite Proof Silver
Crown - 2006 - $5 - Box COA
$150.00 - 10% = $135.00
Pictures can be seen here;
https://picasaweb.google.com/109538410126952617536/May32012
Kunashak L6 Fell June 1949 Very nice thin slices probably around 1mm or less.
0.514g $51.00 - 10% = $46.00 - 10% = $41.00
0.337g $33.00 - 10% = $29.50 - 10% = $26.50
0.291g $29.00 - 10% = $26.00 - 10% = $23.00
Seymchan Pallasite Russia Very thin metal slice. No olivine in this one.
32.2 g $80.00 - 10% = $72.00 - 10% = $64.50
Stannern Stone Eucrite Fell 1808 Micro thin slices.
0.185g = $92.50 - 10% = $83.00 - 10% = $74.50
0.071g = $35.50 - 10% = $32.00 - 10% = $28.50
0.068g = $34.00 - 10% = $30.50 - 10% = $27.50
0.061g = $30.50 - 10% = $27.50 - 10% = $24.75
Pictures can be seen here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/109538410126952617536/April92012
Campo Del Cielo Complete slice with large silicate inclusions. Etched
on both sides.
200 g $350 - 10% = $315 - 10% = $283.50 - 10% = $255.00
Canyon Diablo Whole iron. Has previous collection numbers including
MSA #920 and HM 86. I believe MSA is an abbreviation for Mineralogical
Society of Arizona{http://www.mineralogicalsocietyarizona.org/}. The
second number is from the Harold Michel mineral collection. Piece
includes original label and information card from Harold Michel.
Michel notes that he paid $35 for it from a MSA auction on Feb. 4, 1978.
Nice piece of mineral/meteorite history.
722 grams $750 - 10% = $675 - 10% = $607.50 - 10% = $546.00
Homestead Iowa L5 fall 1875 Wedge cut partial slice with nice fresh
crust along one edge.
7.70 g $115 - 10% = $103 - 10% = $93.00 - 10% = $83.50
NWA 1929 Howardite whole stone. I love these whole stones. It is
just impossible to find them in any size today. Don't miss your chance
to own this exceptionally beautiful stone.
58.3 g $875 - 10% = $787 - 10% = $708.00 - 10% = $637.00
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Mike
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USA
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