[meteorite-list] Test

2012-07-08 Thread Morten Bilet
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Morten
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[meteorite-list] Test2

2012-07-08 Thread Morten Bilet
Test2


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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor crater impact site : Greenland

2012-07-08 Thread Göran Axelsson

sbdeboer skrev 2012-07-07 21:58:

As with the famed Nickel Belt around Sudbury, Ont. - the world's only other
known location in which nickel-rich rock is associated with a major
extraterrestrial impact - confirmation of the Greenland crater means the
valuable metal was likely melted, concentrated and forced to the surface by
the ancient meteorite strike, potentially forming huge and easy-to-extract
deposits.


The only other known location? How about Gallejaur in Sweden? Centrum 
lies 30 km from the old nickel mine Lainejaur, mined in the 1940-1950. 
It is currently under investigation for new nickel deposits by a new 
company that have drilled in the area.


About the Gallejaur structure : http://www.georange.se/upl/files/37256.pdf
Possibly a 50-60 km crater diameter, placing Lainejaur right at the edge 
of the crater.

Lainejaur mine : http://www.mindat.org/loc-10619.html

/Göran
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2012-07-08 Thread valparint
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: NWA 4590 TS

Contributed by: John Lutzon

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp
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Re: [meteorite-list] Gladstone Question

2012-07-08 Thread Mike Bandli
Hi Dennis,

This is a partial Nininger Number. Nininger assigned Gladstone (New Mexico)
with the prefix 315.X. Since he assigned 31.X to Chupaderos, I think it is
safe to assume that the remainder of your numbers simply wore off. This is
typical of some older specimens to lose part of the number. In your case,
the 5.X probably just wore off. Nininger probably sold or swapped the
specimen directly to Ward's Natural Science and typically would only
retained the main mass and/or largest piece available, so we don't see this
smaller 110.6 gram piece listed his catalog. Only the 45.526 kilo main mass
(315.1) and a 1.632 kilo end (315.37).

Hope that helps.

For fun, a little excerpt regarding Gladstone, NM, form Nininger's catalog
(1950):

In 1936, we undertook to prove the hypothesis that meteorites have fallen
on all areas of the earth recently enough to be yet recognizable. We sent
Mr. and Mrs. Alex Richards to Gladstone, New Mexico, with instructions to
stay three weeks exhibiting specimens and providing information as to their
importance and how to distinguish meteorites from other rocks. We had no
information or hint of any kind that meteorites were present in that area.
The first two weeks brought nothing to light, but during the third week six
stones were recovered aggregating 183 pounds and representing three distinct
falls, namely, Gladstone, Farley, and Ute Creek, all within six miles of the
Gladstone post office.

Best wishes,

Mike

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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Dennis
Miller
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 10:42 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Gladstone Question


Hello, List!  Several weeks ago, I acquired a Gladstone meteorite for my
collection.  

It came with an old Ward's Natural Science label. Upon closer inspection, I
noticed

that there was a partially rubbed out white marking on one side.  I can make
out

a 31--- with the remainder unidentifiable.  It sure looks like a Nininger
marking.

I have a reprint of Nininger's 1950 catalog which lists only two
Gladstone's.  I 

have been unable to find if Harvey had and labeled this specimen, in his
collection

or if Ward's used the same nomenclature and marking style. If someone has a
newer

catalog of Harvey's collection, that might list this 110.6 gm Gladstone or
know if

someone knows of another source of researching this, let me know.

Thanks a bunch!

Dennis Miller

Northwest New Mexico

  
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[meteorite-list] Some goodies for sale

2012-07-08 Thread Morten Bilet
Allende - CV3
Moss - CO3,6
NWA 753 - Rumurutite
Parnallee - LL3,6
Dhofar 1180 - Lunar
Dhofar 008 - L3,6
Zagami - Martian

.and some more

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Re: [meteorite-list] Gladstone Question

2012-07-08 Thread Dennis Miller

Hello!  Mike and Frank,  Thanks for the valuable information about my

Gladstone.  Always good to know that Mr. Nininger held this one in his

own hands.  Would like some of his good Karma to rub off on me, before 

I get to Holbrook, Friday!  Thanks again, Guys!

Dennis Miller


 Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 19:55:33 -0700
 From: fcre...@prodigy.net
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Gladstone Question
 To: astror...@hotmail.com
 CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

 Hi Dennis and those interested,

 I have a specimen of Alamogordo that came with a Ward's label and also a
 Nininger number, so your Ward's Gladstone specimen certainly could also have a
 Nininger number. During the 1930s, Nininger sold quite a few specimens to
 Ward's. Nininger's 1950 catalog only lists the specimens that he had at that
 time. Any specimens sold before then were not included.

 Good score,

 Frank




 
 From: Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sat, July 7, 2012 10:46:38 AM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Gladstone Question


 Hello, List! Several weeks ago, I acquired a Gladstone meteorite for my
 collection.


 It came with an old Ward's Natural Science label. Upon closer inspection, I
 noticed

 that there was a partially rubbed out white marking on one side. I can make 
 out

 a 31--- with the remainder unidentifiable. It sure looks like a Nininger
 marking.

 I have a reprint of Nininger's 1950 catalog which lists only two Gladstone's. 
 I



 have been unable to find if Harvey had and labeled this specimen, in his
 collection

 or if Ward's used the same nomenclature and marking style. If someone has a
 newer

 catalog of Harvey's collection, that might list this 110.6 gm Gladstone or 
 know
 if

 someone knows of another source of researching this, let me know.

 Thanks a bunch!

 Dennis Miller

 Northwest New Mexico


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2012-07-08 Thread Mirko Graul
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[meteorite-list] Arsenic Bacteria Hoax

2012-07-08 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum

Turns out it was a bogus publicity stunt:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/journal-retreats-from-controversial-arsenic-paper/2012/07/08/gJQAFQb7WW_story.html?hpid=z3

Journal retreats from controversial arsenic paper



By Marc Kaufman, Updated: Sunday, July 8, 10:05 PMThe Washington Post
Two new studies of controversial research on a bacterium found in California's 
arsenic-rich Mono Lake led the journal Science on Sunday to say that the 
2010 paper it published on the microbe was incorrect in some of its major 
findings.
The original research, which also had been highlighted by NASA, reported 
that the bacterium could live in an environment with very high arsenic and 
very low phosphorus - one of the six elements known to be present in all 
living things. It consequently raised the possibility of life forms now or 
previously on Earth that break what had been accepted as a universal rule of 
biology.


But two new studies of the bacterium, GFAJ-1, reported that it could not 
grow without the presence of phosphorus. The ­papers also challenged the 
original finding that small amounts of arsenic compounds had replaced 
phosphorus compounds in some DNA, membranes and other biologically central 
parts of the organism.
Contrary to an original report, the new research clearly shows that the 
bacterium, GFAJ-1, cannot substitute arsenic for phosphorus to survive, the 
journal concluded in a formal statement.
The new research shows that GFAJ-1 does not break the long-held rules of 
life, contrary to how [lead author Felisa] Wolfe-Simon had interpreted her 
group's data.
Nonetheless, Science wrote that it would look with interest at further 
research regarding the bacterium, which it called an extraordinarily 
resistant organism that should be of interest for further study, 
particularly related to arsenic-tolerance mechanisms.
Wolfe-Simon, now on a NASA fellowship at the Lawrence Berkeley National 
Laboratory, is collaborating with senior scientist John A. Tainer on 
wide-ranging studies of the bacterium. In an interview Saturday, Wolfe-Simon 
and Tainer said that they had produced tentative results in the Berkeley lab 
almost identical to the original results at a U.S. Geological Survey 
laboratory, and that they were busy finishing the research and preparing 
another paper.
Tainer said the two new studies in Science may have come to different 
results than theirs because of the methodologies used, the precision used to 
detect arsenates and the provenance of the cells. He said the authors of the 
two new papers may well regret some of their statements in the future.
There are many reasons not to find things - I don't find my keys some 
mornings, he said. That doesn't mean they don't exist. The absence of a 
finding is not definitive.
Wolfe-Simon and her numerous collaborators had made samples of GFAJ-1 
broadly available after her initial results caused a storm of controversy, 
but she and Tainer said they may have been contaminated or modified in 
transit.
She said that all the researchers agreed that the bacterium survived in 
extraordinarily high levels of usually toxic arsenic compounds but that they 
disagreed about whether the organism used the arsenic compound to grow and 
whether it had incorporated the arsenic into its biology.
I think it's unclear whether this is the last word, ­Wolfe-Simon said. 
They're not finding something that could be there in a minor amount.
One of the new studies in Science was conducted by a team centered at 
Princeton University that included Rosemary Redfield of the University of 
British Columbia. She was one of the first and most vocal critics of the 
original Wolfe-Simon paper, and she said Sunday she was satisfied with how 
the process has played out.
A very flawed paper was published and received an inordinate amount of 
publicity, she wrote in an e-mail. But other researchers responded very 
quickly. .?.?. Now refutations of the work by two independent research 
groups are appearing in the same high-profile journal, and the refutations 
are being well publicized. This is how science is supposed to work.
The new study Redfield was part of did not find any microbial growth when 
arsenates were provided to the bacteria without phosphates. Wolfe-Simon had 
initially reported that the bacterium grew when phosphorus compounds were 
withheld but arsenic compounds were provided. The new study also found no 
biologically mediated arsenic in the microbe's DNA, as ­Wolfe­Simon had 
reported.
The paper concludes that the bacterium is an extreme life form but one that 
has adapted to its environment in a manner similar to many others that live 
in conditions long thought to be unsuitable for life.
The second new study in Science came from a research group in Switzerland. 
That group also found no growth in the bacteria in a medium with arsenic 
compounds but no phosphorus. The paper suggested that Wolfe­Simon's initial 
finding may have missed the presence