Re: [meteorite-list] How is the Denver Rock show going?

2012-09-19 Thread almitt2

Hi Shawn and all,

The Denver Show ran from September 10th (roughly) to September 16th. I 
attended for a few days. Blaine Reed's room was central to all the 
meteorite collectors and dealers for the most part. Blaine always has a 
nice display as well as good prices on items. A number of dealer 
consign items at Blaines room.


Thursday night Geoff Notkin, Marlin Clilz, Blaine Reed, Mike Martinz a 
few others and myself sat down by the pool and smoked cigars and talked 
for a couple of hours. Much beer was consumed.


Friday was the get together of the Comets and bidding on meteorite 
items. I didn't attend but can offer some notes on what I heard. Lots 
of fun and a few bargins at the bidding. My understanding is there was 
one item offered involving a course on learning a language.


There were multipal rooms offer meteorite specimens of various kinds in 
the Ramada (formally the Holiday Inn). Always a lot of nice NWA's, 
Campos and other meteorite types. The Merchandise Mart was home to 
Rubin Garcia Selling many fine specimens. He seem to have a crowd the 
whole time I was there looking and as I passed by to leave. The 
wholesale area usually has a couple of meteorite dealers as well.


Denver Show size is not what it use to be. After the attacks on 9 11 
the attendance shrank and hasn't been the same since. Denver is always 
worth attending and helps you get through until the Tucson Show.


Sorry for the miss spelled names but just wanted to make a quick comment.

All my  best!

--AL Mitterling


Quoting Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com:


Hello Listers,

With NV in fool swing with the Battle Mountain fall and other parts 
of the world being blessed by the Meteorite Gods, I was wondering how 
is the Denver Rock Show going and if any Listers have taken any 
photos of some of Dealers collections? I was hoping to go back home 
in Colorado around this time, but it wasn't happening, so all I can 
do is read and look at others Listers experiences at the Denver show, 
which I have to add is fun, I was able to go out to the show a couple 
years ago, and I seems that its getting bigger with more meteorite 
dealers :)


Shawn Alan


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Re: [meteorite-list] Morasko Craters Panoramas

2012-09-19 Thread Graham Ensor
Nice work Marcin...

Graham

On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 1:18 AM, Marcin Cimala mar...@meteoryt.net wrote:
 Hi
 I made few panoramas of three largest Morasko craters. This was only
 experiment during my visit in Morasko, but looks like it work great. I didnt
 thinked that my photos will make soo nice panoramas.

 http://www.polandmet.com/gfx_morasko/001.htm

 enjoy

 -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
 http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
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 http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM: +48 (793) 567667
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2012-09-19 Thread valparint
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Chergach

Contributed by: Jean-Michel Masson

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp
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[meteorite-list] Meteorites for sale - AD (updated)

2012-09-19 Thread janamann

Thanks to all who looked at/bought from the list of meteorites
for sale I posted last week.

I have now uploaded pictures for all at:

http://s977.photobucket.com/albums/ae260/alexanders_dad 

I have also added some new pieces, including a slice of Esquel
with huge surface area, a large sculpted Henbury and a nicely-oriented
unclassified individual.   Details for these, plus what remains
from the list are at:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20342173/Meteorite%20list.xls

Prices include worldwide shipping.

Just ask if you have any questions , or want more pictures.

Thanks for reading.

Nigel Mann
IMCA 5835




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[meteorite-list] Meteorites for sale - AD (updated)

2012-09-19 Thread janamann

Thanks to all who looked at/bought from the list of meteorites
for sale I posted last week.

I have now uploaded pictures for all at:

http://s977.photobucket.com/albums/ae260/alexanders_dad 

I have also added some new pieces, including a slice of Esquel
with huge surface area, a large sculpted Henbury and a nicely-oriented
unclassified individual.   Details for these, plus what remains
from the list are at:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20342173/Meteorite%20list.xls

Prices include worldwide shipping.

Just ask if you have any questions , or want more pictures.

Thanks for reading.

Nigel Mann
IMCA 5835




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[meteorite-list] Draveil meteorite

2012-09-19 Thread Martin Goff
Hi all,

The French hammer fall of Draveil is not yet listed in the met
bulletin, anyone any ideas on whats happening with it? Also Is anyone
aware of any specimens of Draveil in private hands other than the
piece owned by Pierre Marie Pele, the piece/pieces in Alain Carions
collection and of course the specimen that is owned by Mme. Comette
where it fell on her house. I am aware of possibly one other fragment,
a micromount from Pierre Marie's specimen that was sold in a charity
auction but no others. There are of course the superb large multi kg
pieces in the Paris MNHM. Anyone have knowledge of any other pieces?

Cheers

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Re: [meteorite-list] Draveil meteorite

2012-09-19 Thread karmaka
Hi Martin,

Unfortunately, madame Comette wasn't even allowed to keep the meteorite. What a 
shame!
 
It can be seen in the MNHM as well, I think.
 
Martin
 
Von: Martin Goff msgmeteori...@gmail.com
 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Betreff: [meteorite-list] Draveil meteorite
 Datum: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:48:53 +0200
 
Hi all,
 
 The French hammer fall of Draveil is not yet listed in the met
 bulletin, anyone any ideas on whats happening with it? Also Is anyone
 aware of any specimens of Draveil in private hands other than the
 piece owned by Pierre Marie Pele, the piece/pieces in Alain Carions
 collection and of course the specimen that is owned by Mme. Comette
 where it fell on her house. I am aware of possibly one other fragment,
 a micromount from Pierre Marie's specimen that was sold in a charity
 auction but no others. There are of course the superb large multi kg
 pieces in the Paris MNHM. Anyone have knowledge of any other pieces?
 
 Cheers
 
 Martin
 
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 www.msg-meteorites.co.uk
 IMCA #3387
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[meteorite-list] Test

2012-09-19 Thread Derek Yoost
This is a test.

Thanks, Derek.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Draveil meteorite

2012-09-19 Thread Martin Goff
Hi Martin,

I hadn't heard that. How come she was not allowed to keep it as it
fell on her property did it not? That doesn't sound right that she
wasn't allowed to keep it. What a great shame for her :-(

Have you heard of any pieces that have made it to the collectors market at all?

Cheers

Martin

On 19 September 2012 13:54, karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de wrote:
 Hi Martin,

 Unfortunately, madame Comette wasn't even allowed to keep the meteorite.
 What a shame!



 It can be seen in the MNHM as well, I think.



 Martin



 Von: Martin Goff msgmeteori...@gmail.com
 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Betreff: [meteorite-list] Draveil meteorite
 Datum: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:48:53 +0200

 Hi all,

 The French hammer fall of Draveil is not yet listed in the met
 bulletin, anyone any ideas on whats happening with it? Also Is anyone
 aware of any specimens of Draveil in private hands other than the
 piece owned by Pierre Marie Pele, the piece/pieces in Alain Carions
 collection and of course the specimen that is owned by Mme. Comette
 where it fell on her house. I am aware of possibly one other fragment,
 a micromount from Pierre Marie's specimen that was sold in a charity
 auction but no others. There are of course the superb large multi kg
 pieces in the Paris MNHM. Anyone have knowledge of any other pieces?

 Cheers

 Martin

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Re: [meteorite-list] Draveil meteorite

2012-09-19 Thread karmaka
Madame Comette's specimen is the small one with the number 3 in the 
MNHM-display shown in this short report.
 
http://vimeo.com/48586141
 
Martin

 
Von: karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de
 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Draveil meteorite
 Datum: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:04:55 +0200
 
Hi Martin,
 
 Unfortunately, madame Comette wasn't even allowed to keep the meteorite. What 
a shame!
 
 It can be seen in the MNHM as well, I think.
 
 Martin
 
 Von: Martin Goff msgmeteori...@gmail.com
 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Betreff: [meteorite-list] Draveil meteorite
 Datum: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:48:53 +0200
 
 Hi all,
 
 The French hammer fall of Draveil is not yet listed in the met
 bulletin, anyone any ideas on whats happening with it? Also Is anyone
 aware of any specimens of Draveil in private hands other than the
 piece owned by Pierre Marie Pele, the piece/pieces in Alain Carions
 collection and of course the specimen that is owned by Mme. Comette
 where it fell on her house. I am aware of possibly one other fragment,
 a micromount from Pierre Marie's specimen that was sold in a charity
 auction but no others. There are of course the superb large multi kg
 pieces in the Paris MNHM. Anyone have knowledge of any other pieces?
 
 Cheers
 
 Martin
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Draveil meteorite

2012-09-19 Thread karmaka
Hi Martin,
 
she wasn't allowed to keep it because she didn't own the property it fell on. 
She was a tenant.
Still, as you say, it doesn't sound right to me. She would have deserved to 
keep it.
 
I don't know of any pieces that made it to the collector's market except for 
the one tiny specimen sold on ebay.
 
Cheers,
 
Martin
 
Von: Martin Goff msgmeteori...@gmail.com
 An: karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Draveil meteorite
 Datum: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:11:15 +0200
 
Hi Martin,
 
 I hadn't heard that. How come she was not allowed to keep it as it
 fell on her property did it not? That doesn't sound right that she
 wasn't allowed to keep it. What a great shame for her :-(
 
 Have you heard of any pieces that have made it to the collectors market at all?
 
 Cheers
 
 Martin
 
 On 19 September 2012 13:54, karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de wrote:
  Hi Martin,
 
  Unfortunately, madame Comette wasn't even allowed to keep the meteorite.
  What a shame!
 
 
 
  It can be seen in the MNHM as well, I think.
 
 
 
  Martin
 
 
 
  Von: Martin Goff msgmeteori...@gmail.com
  An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Betreff: [meteorite-list] Draveil meteorite
  Datum: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:48:53 +0200
 
  Hi all,
 
  The French hammer fall of Draveil is not yet listed in the met
  bulletin, anyone any ideas on whats happening with it? Also Is anyone
  aware of any specimens of Draveil in private hands other than the
  piece owned by Pierre Marie Pele, the piece/pieces in Alain Carions
  collection and of course the specimen that is owned by Mme. Comette
  where it fell on her house. I am aware of possibly one other fragment,
  a micromount from Pierre Marie's specimen that was sold in a charity
  auction but no others. There are of course the superb large multi kg
  pieces in the Paris MNHM. Anyone have knowledge of any other pieces?
 
  Cheers
 
  Martin
 
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[meteorite-list] Peekskill Meteorite Cast Kits

2012-09-19 Thread Derek Yoost

We are proud to announce:

Peekskill Meteorite Cast Kit

Celebrate the 20th anniversary of the Peekskill Meteorites arrival to Earth
with this Limited Edition cast! Your collector's kit includes:

1) Meteorite cast finished by hand to mirror the original meteorite
rendered in meticulous detail.

2) A full color numbered edition Certificate.

3) Standing, aluminum classification label.

4) If you want a specimen of the Peekskill meteorite, we can include that
for $250 per gram.

List of the Peekskill meteorite specimens available:

(This piece has Fusion Crust) 1.14g

1.13g

1.11g

1.05g

.98g

.85g

.84g

.81g

.36g

.34g

On the night of October 9, 1992 at 7:50 PM a 27 pound stone ploughed through
the trunk of Michele Knapp's 1980 Chevy Malibu that was parked in her
driveway while the family watched TV.  Hearing a horrendous noise just
outside of their home, the Knapp family ran to the door to discover the
damage to their car.  It wasn't until the next day that they found the
cosmic traveler partially buried in a shallow crater in the driveway under
the car.

So begins the legend of Peekskill Meteorite.  To commemorate this historic,
celestial event, the Peekskill stone has been newly re-cast and rendered by 
hand

to match the original in meticulous detail.  Now you too can celebrate this
meteoric event by making this cast part of your collection.

The Peekskill Meteorite cast is first cast in high quality HYDRO-STONE®, one
of the hardest and strongest of all gypsum cements.  This makes it more
durable than other plaster castings.  The weight of the cast is 11 pounds,
about half of the original weight of the actual meteorite.  It is then color
matched with superior-grade paints, rendering the exterior of the meteorite,
the Chevy Cinnabar Red, and the chrome of the cars bumper as it scraped by.

This Limited Edition Collectors Kit has been produced with attention to
detail and the quality that Collectors have come to expect. We are meteorite
collectors for collectors. This will make a great addition to your
collection for years to come.

Here is a link to the Ebay auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330796129266ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123

You can email me off list if you are interested.  Thanks, Derek Yoost /
Anthony Tomaselli

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[meteorite-list] AD - 104 ebay item starting 0.01$ ending very soon

2012-09-19 Thread Fabien Kuntz
Hello, 



ending very soon, 104 new ebay items : 


http://www.ebay.com/sch/wwmeteorites-25/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1



Fabien


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Animation scientifique et technique
WWMETEORITES (Siret : 511 850 612 00017)
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Re: [meteorite-list] Peekskill Meteorite Cast Kits

2012-09-19 Thread Derek Yoost
Im sorry, I forgot to put Ad in the subject line.

Thanks, Derek.

Derek Yoost mine...@optonline.net wrote:

We are proud to announce:

Peekskill Meteorite Cast Kit

Celebrate the 20th anniversary of the Peekskill Meteorites arrival to Earth
with this Limited Edition cast! Your collector's kit includes:

 1) Meteorite cast finished by hand to mirror the original meteorite
rendered in meticulous detail.

 2) A full color numbered edition Certificate.

 3) Standing, aluminum classification label.

 4) If you want a specimen of the Peekskill meteorite, we can include that
for $250 per gram.

 List of the Peekskill meteorite specimens available:

(This piece has Fusion Crust) 1.14g

1.13g

1.11g

1.05g

.98g

.85g

.84g

.81g

.36g

.34g

On the night of October 9, 1992 at 7:50 PM a 27 pound stone ploughed through
the trunk of Michele Knapp's 1980 Chevy Malibu that was parked in her
driveway while the family watched TV.  Hearing a horrendous noise just
outside of their home, the Knapp family ran to the door to discover the
damage to their car.  It wasn't until the next day that they found the
cosmic traveler partially buried in a shallow crater in the driveway under
the car.

So begins the legend of Peekskill Meteorite.  To commemorate this historic,
celestial event, the Peekskill stone has been newly re-cast and rendered by 
hand
to match the original in meticulous detail.  Now you too can celebrate this
meteoric event by making this cast part of your collection.

The Peekskill Meteorite cast is first cast in high quality HYDRO-STONE®, one
of the hardest and strongest of all gypsum cements.  This makes it more
durable than other plaster castings.  The weight of the cast is 11 pounds,
about half of the original weight of the actual meteorite.  It is then color
matched with superior-grade paints, rendering the exterior of the meteorite,
the Chevy Cinnabar Red, and the chrome of the cars bumper as it scraped by.

This Limited Edition Collectors Kit has been produced with attention to
detail and the quality that Collectors have come to expect. We are meteorite
collectors for collectors. This will make a great addition to your
collection for years to come.

Here is a link to the Ebay auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330796129266ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123

You can email me off list if you are interested.  Thanks, Derek Yoost /
Anthony Tomaselli

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[meteorite-list] Peekskill Meteorite Casts

2012-09-19 Thread Derek Yoost

We are proud to announce:

Peekskill Meteorite Cast

Celebrate the 20th anniversary of the Peekskill Meteorites arrival to Earth 
with this Limited Edition cast! Your collector's kit includes:


1) Meteorite cast finished by hand to mirror the original meteorite 
rendered in meticulous detail.


2) A full color numbered edition Certificate.

3) Standing, aluminum classification label.

4) If you want a specimen of the Peekskill meteorite, we can include that 
for $250 per gram.


List of the Peekskill meteorite specimens available:

(This piece has Fusion Crust) 1.14g

1.13g

1.11g

1.05g

.98g

.85g

.84g

.81g

.36g

.34g

On the night of October 9, 1992 at 7:50 PM a 27 pound stone ploughed through 
the trunk of Michele Knapp's 1980 Chevy Malibu that was parked in her 
driveway while the family watched TV.  Hearing a horrendous noise just 
outside of their home, the Knapp family ran to the door to discover the 
damage to their car.  It wasn't until the next day that they found the 
cosmic traveler partially buried in a shallow crater in the driveway under 
the car.


So begins the legend of Peekskill Meteorite.  To commemorate this historic, 
celestial event, the Peekskill stone has been re-cast and rendered by hand 
to match the original in meticulous detail.  Now you too can celebrate this 
meteoric event by making this cast part of your collection.


The Peekskill Meteorite cast is first cast in high quality HYDRO-STONE®, one 
of the hardest and strongest of all gypsum cements.  This makes it more 
durable than other plaster castings.  The weight of the cast is 11 pounds, 
about half of the original weight of the actual meteorite.  It is then color 
matched with superior-grade paints, rendering the exterior of the meteorite, 
the Chevy Cinnabar Red, and the chrome of the cars bumper as it scraped by.


This Limited Edition Collectors Kit has been produced with attention to 
detail and the quality that Collectors have come to expect. We are meteorite 
collectors for collectors. This will make a great addition to your 
collection for years to come.


Here is a link to the Ebay auction: 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Limited-Edition-Peekskill-Meteorite-Cast-Kit-20th-Anniversary-Get-Yours-Today-/330795968274?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4d04f9e712


You can email me off list if you are interested.  Thanks, Derek Yoost / 
Anthony Tomaselli 


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[meteorite-list] Draveil Meteorite

2012-09-19 Thread Fabien Kuntz
Hello, 



we hunted the area with some friends (one hunting sometime with us living in 
Epinay-sur-Orges, just 3.6Km from the 5Kg Main Mass !) at the same time of the 
small Montgeron stone recovered... The locations of the previous stones not 
officialy disclosed (but more or less known), was realy hard, and we know now 
we hunted of of the ellipse half of the time. Always the same scenario, like as 
the Brittany fall few months before, Hunters are heritage robbers, just 
thinking about monney... but probably many stones lost for both private and 
public collections because of that... Never seen on the market other specimen 
than the one sold on ebay for charity stuff.


Just waiting now a new french fall on MY car, that I will collect by myself, 
the only way to be able to keep it according the french law...



Fabien


Fabien Kuntz
Météorites (ventes, expertise, conférences)
Animation scientifique et technique
WWMETEORITES (Siret : 511 850 612 00017)
www.wwmeteorites.com 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Draveil Meteorite

2012-09-19 Thread karmaka
Fabien, 

always, always park your car next to a red one or even better, get
a red one yourself and watch the sky on October 9. ;-)

I wonder if Her Majesty, the 'red legend' itself, will be auctioned off on that 
day
or if it will continue to tour the world as successfully as before ...

Martin


 
Von: Fabien Kuntz wwmeteori...@yahoo.com
 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Betreff: [meteorite-list] Draveil Meteorite
 Datum: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:16:19 +0200
 
Hello, 
 
 
 
 we hunted the area with some friends (one hunting sometime with us living in 
Epinay-sur-Orges, just 3.6Km from the 5Kg Main Mass !) at the same time of the 
small Montgeron stone recovered... The locations of the previous stones not 
officialy disclosed (but more or less known), was realy hard, and we know now 
we hunted of of the ellipse half of the time. Always the same scenario, like as 
the Brittany fall few months before, Hunters are heritage robbers, just 
thinking about monney... but probably many stones lost for both private and 
public collections because of that... Never seen on the market other specimen 
than the one sold on ebay for charity stuff.
 
 
 Just waiting now a new french fall on MY car, that I will collect by myself, 
the only way to be able to keep it according the french law...
 
 
 
 Fabien
 
 
 Fabien Kuntz
 Météorites (ventes, expertise, conférences)
 Animation scientifique et technique
 WWMETEORITES (Siret : 511 850 612 00017)
 www.wwmeteorites.com 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Draveil Meteorite

2012-09-19 Thread Martin Goff
Thankyou Fabien, shame you were not successful in your hunt. However i
wish you all the success possible in your car bashing endeveaours ;-)

-- 
Martin Goff
www.msg-meteorites.co.uk
IMCA #3387
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[meteorite-list] AD: Rare European falls and more

2012-09-19 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List Members,

In an effort to raise funds for a new project, I have listed a suite of some
exceptional falls for sale from my personal collection:

http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/Sales.html

Please click refresh to make sure you are viewing current inventory.

Thanks for looking and have a great day!

All the best,

Mike

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[meteorite-list] New Big Impact Theory

2012-09-19 Thread Sterling K. Webb

New Big Impact theory. In case you find the
references to a new Ice Age puzzling, I'll remind
you that it's the Ice Age that we in right now. Yes,
friends, we are in an Ice Age, at 5-7 C. below the
long-term norm.

The full text of the article follows.


Sterling K. Webb
-
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120919103612.htm

Did a 'Forgotten' Meteor 
Have a Deadly, Icy Double-Punch?


ScienceDaily (Sep. 19, 2012) - When a huge 
meteor collided with Earth about 2.5 million 
years ago and fell into the southern Pacific 
Ocean it not only could have generated a 
massive tsunami but also may have plunged 
the world into the Ice Ages, a new study suggests.


A team of Australian researchers says that because 
the Eltanin meteor -- which was up to two kilometres 
across -- crashed into deep water, most scientists 
have not adequately considered either its potential 
for immediate catastrophic impacts on coastlines 
around the Pacific rim or its capacity to destabilise 
the entire planet's climate system.


This is the only known deep-ocean impact event on 
the planet and it's largely been forgotten because 
there's no obvious giant crater to investigate, as there 
would have been if it had hit a landmass, says Professor 
James Goff, lead author of a forthcoming paper in the 
Journal of Quaternary Science. Goff is co-director of 
UNSW's Australia-Pacific Tsunami Research Centre and 
Natural Hazards Research Laboratory.


But consider that we're talking about something the 
size of a small mountain crashing at very high speed 
into very deep ocean, between Chile and Antarctica. 
Unlike a land impact, where the energy of the collision 
is largely absorbed locally, this would have generated 
an incredible splash with waves literally hundreds of 
metres high near the impact site.


Some modelling suggests that the ensuing mega-tsunami 
could have been unimaginably large -- sweeping across 
vast areas of the Pacific and engulfing coastlines far inland. 
But it also would have ejected massive amounts of water 
vapour, sulphur and dust up into the stratosphere.


The tsunami alone would have been devastating enough 
in the short term, but all that material shot so high into 
the atmosphere could have been enough to dim the sun 
and dramatically reduce surface temperatures. Earth was 
already in a gradual cooling phase, so this might have 
been enough to rapidly accelerate and accentuate the 
process and kick start the Ice Ages.


In the paper, Goff and colleagues from UNSW and the 
Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation, 
note that geologists and climatologists have interpreted 
geological deposits in Chile, Antarctica, Australia, and 
elsewhere as evidence of climatic change, marking the 
start of the Quaternary period. An alternative interpretation 
is that some or all of these deposits may be the result of 
mega-tsunami inundation, the study suggests.


There's no doubt the world was already cooling through 
the mid and late Pliocene, says co-author Professor Mike 
Archer. What we're suggesting is that the Eltanin impact 
may have rammed this slow-moving change forward in an 
instant -- hurtling the world into the cycle of glaciations 
that characterized the next 2.5 million years and triggered 
our own evolution as a species.


As a 'cene' changer -- that is, from the Pliocene to Pleistocene -- 
Eltanin may have been overall as significant as the meteor 
that took out the non-flying dinosaurs 65 million years ago. 
We're urging our colleagues to carefully reconsider conventional 
interpretations of the sediments we're flagging and consider 
whether these could be instead the result of a mega-tsunami 
triggered by a meteor.

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[meteorite-list] AD - NWA 5000 Main Mass for Sale - New Website - Check it Out!

2012-09-19 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members,

In celebration of the five year anniversary since Northwest Africa 5000 (NWA 
5000) was discovered and legally obtained from the country of Western Sahara, I 
would like to announce a fresh website centered around placing the main mass.  
As you may or may not know, NWA 5000 is a world record setting lunar meteorite 
from our nearest celestial neighbor, the Moon. It is simply the best; a true 
international treasure and a Cosmic Masterpiece.  It is also the largest and 
most aesthetically pleasing piece of the Moon ever placed on the market or 
found for that matter. 

Every aspect of this Moon rock has been micromanaged and the 9,610 gram main 
mass is now ready to be put on the market.  I felt it best to quietly offer it 
here first before going public next month.  This way, it is possible for a 
seriously interested party to save broker fees and I will not have the added 
expenses of a world-wide advertising campaign which I have budgeted for.  I 
will turn over this project to a media/advertising firm on October 15th so this 
represents the deadline for the very best deal possible.

I decided against using an auction house saving a prospective buyer up to 50% 
or more!  No seller commissions, no buyer premiums, no last-minute emotional 
bidding and no ridiculous hidden fees, however once I start spending the 
advertising budget, I will no longer be able to entertain the lowest possible 
offers.  If you are looking for the ultimate natural history centerpiece, now 
is the time to deal.

Any forthcoming offers should be placed through the contact page on the 
website.  I only have time to respond to serious inquiries only due to 
simultaneously managing several exciting projects at once.  I would like to see 
it is the main attraction in a natural history museum, art gallery, business or 
personal collection but time restraints may dictate otherwise.  I want it 
placed well before the end of the year otherwise this masterpiece may have a 
date with a wire saw, several artisans and a jewelry company.

I will offer special terms to museums or other worthy institutions for a very 
limited amount of time in order to preserve the main mass whole. Contact me me 
soon and maybe we can work within your budgetary guidelines or allow time to 
find a benefactor(s).


Everything you ever wanted to know about NWA 5000 including a current 
appraisal, legality statement, science and images can be found at the link 
below:

NWA 5000 Website Link:http://themeteoritesite.com/

Thank you for considering NWA 5000,


Kindest Regards,

Adam Hupe
The Hupe Collection
IMCA Director 2185
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - NWA 5000 Main Mass for Sale - New Website -Check it Out!

2012-09-19 Thread Greg Hupé

Awesome!! Now see with active link here:
http://themeteoritesite.com/

-Original Message- 
From: Adam Hupe

Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:06 PM
To: Adam
Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - NWA 5000 Main Mass for Sale - New 
Website -Check it Out!


Dear List Members,

In celebration of the five year anniversary since Northwest Africa 5000 (NWA 
5000) was discovered and legally obtained from the country of Western 
Sahara, I would like to announce a fresh website centered around placing the 
main mass.  As you may or may not know, NWA 5000 is a world record setting 
lunar meteorite from our nearest celestial neighbor, the Moon. It is simply 
the best; a true international treasure and a Cosmic Masterpiece.  It is 
also the largest and most aesthetically pleasing piece of the Moon ever 
placed on the market or found for that matter.


Every aspect of this Moon rock has been micromanaged and the 9,610 gram main 
mass is now ready to be put on the market.  I felt it best to quietly offer 
it here first before going public next month.  This way, it is possible for 
a seriously interested party to save broker fees and I will not have the 
added expenses of a world-wide advertising campaign which I have budgeted 
for.  I will turn over this project to a media/advertising firm on October 
15th so this represents the deadline for the very best deal possible.


I decided against using an auction house saving a prospective buyer up to 
50% or more!  No seller commissions, no buyer premiums, no last-minute 
emotional bidding and no ridiculous hidden fees, however once I start 
spending the advertising budget, I will no longer be able to entertain the 
lowest possible offers.  If you are looking for the ultimate natural history 
centerpiece, now is the time to deal.


Any forthcoming offers should be placed through the contact page on the 
website.  I only have time to respond to serious inquiries only due to 
simultaneously managing several exciting projects at once.  I would like to 
see it is the main attraction in a natural history museum, art gallery, 
business or personal collection but time restraints may dictate otherwise. 
I want it placed well before the end of the year otherwise this masterpiece 
may have a date with a wire saw, several artisans and a jewelry company.


I will offer special terms to museums or other worthy institutions for a 
very limited amount of time in order to preserve the main mass whole. 
Contact me me soon and maybe we can work within your budgetary guidelines or 
allow time to find a benefactor(s).



Everything you ever wanted to know about NWA 5000 including a current 
appraisal, legality statement, science and images can be found at the link 
below:


NWA 5000 Website Link: http://themeteoritesite.com/

Thank you for considering NWA 5000,


Kindest Regards,

Adam Hupe
The Hupe Collection
IMCA Director 2185
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[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - September 19, 2012

2012-09-19 Thread Ron Baalke


MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES
September 19, 2012

o Unusual Crater with Lava Flows Near Arsia Mons
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_017347_1585
 
  The origin of this structure is unclear but may be related 
  to the breach in the crater rim to the left.

o A Small, Double-Ringed Crater 
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_028162_2310

  The impact penetrated through the material and into the 
  substrate and formed this double crater as it excavated 
  material from these two layers of different strengths.

o Clay Color Inspiration
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_028367_2085

  The relatively bright areas reveal a complex terrain with a 
  range of textures and enhanced colors.

o Cratered Cones in Grojtá Valles   
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_028466_1955

  These cones are interpreted to be the product of explosive 
  lava-water interactions, indicating that the region is covered 
  by lava.

All of the HiRISE images are archived here:

http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/

Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is 
online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is 
managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division 
of the California Institute of Technology, for the NASA 
Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Lockheed 
Martin Space Systems, of Denver, is the prime contractor 
and built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the 
University of Arizona. Ball Aerospace and Technologies 
Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE instrument.

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[meteorite-list] Mars Rover Opportunity Update: September 13-18, 2012

2012-09-19 Thread Ron Baalke

OPPORTUNITY UPDATE:  Robotic Arm Tools Get To Work  - sols 3071-3076,
Sept. 13, 2012-Sept. 18, 2012:

Opportunity is continuing the in-situ (contact) science campaign at a
putative location of clay minerals at the inboard edge of Cape York on
the rim of Endeavour Crater.

The rover is positioned next to a large light-toned block of exposed
outcrop. Previous Panoramic Camera (Pancam) imagery indicates mineral
hydration in this block. On 3071 (Sept. 13, 2012), Opportunity performed
a very small turn-in-place to position a high-valued target within reach
of the robotic arm. Then on Sol 3073 (Sept. 15, 2012), the rover
collected a Microscopic Imager (MI) mosaic of the surface target
Azilda, followed by the placement of the Alpha Particle X-ray
Spectrometer (APXS) on the same for a multi-sol integration. On Sol 3076
(Sept. 18, 2012), Opportunity used the Rock Abrasion Tool (RAT) to brush
the same target and then used the Microscopic Imager to collect another
mosaic, followed again by another placement of the APXS.

As of Sol 3076 (Sept. 18, 2012), the solar array energy production was
564 watt-hours with an atmospheric opacity (Tau) of 0.560 and a solar
array dust factor of 0.648.

Total odometry is 21.78 miles (35,047.47 meters).
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[meteorite-list] NASA Mars Rover Curiosity Looks at Ground Ahead, Moons Above

2012-09-19 Thread Ron Baalke

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/news/whatsnew/index.cfm?FuseAction=ShowNewsNewsID=1352

NASA Mars Rover Curiosity Looks at Ground Ahead, Moons Above
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
September 19, 2012

A series of daily drives has taken NASA's Mars Rover Curiosity to a
vantage point about halfway to a science destination area called
Glenelg. The rover has been using its Mast Camera to examine the area
ahead and also to catch special occasions when the Martian moons Phobos
and Deimos pass in front of the sun from the rover's point of view.

All Related Images

[Curiosity Traverse Map Through Sol 43]
This map shows the route driven by NASA's Mars rover Curiosity through
the 43rd Martian day, or sol, of the rover's mission on Mars (Sept. 19,
2012).

[On the Road to Glenelg]
This mosaic from the Mast Camera on NASA's Curiosity rover shows the
view looking toward the Glenelg area, where three different terrain
types come together.

[Dark Bands Run Through Light Layers]
This mosaic from the Mast Camera on NASA's Curiosity rover shows a
close-up view looking toward the Glenelg area, where three different
terrain types come together.


[Phobos in Transit] 
Mars has two small, asteroid-sized moons named Phobos and Deimos.
Phobos in Transit

[Phobos in Transit]
As part of a multi-mission campaign, NASA's Curiosity rover is observing
Martian moon transits, the first of which involved the moon Phobos
grazing the sun's disk.

[Comparing Phobos Views]

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[meteorite-list] 3 UK Meteor Events 19SEP2012

2012-09-19 Thread drtanuki
Dear List:
May be of interest to UK members of this list?
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2012/09/three-uk-meteor-fireball-events.html

Thank you!  Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Meteorite Auction (AD)

2012-09-19 Thread Michael Blood
Dear List Members,

Please check out about 65 items now up, including over a dozen
different pallasites, large old Nininger Canyon Diablo, a cool large Gibeon,
A large Canyon Diablo with a nice sized hole, etc, etc.

http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/AuctionTucson2013.html

ALSO, it is time people who will be placing absentee bids start
Doing so. Last year about 30% of the absentee bids came in AFTER
I had left for Tucson, so never were recorded and bid for. You can always
Ad more when new material comes in.

In addition, the call now is for higher mid range and substantial
specimens for the remaining lots (I have plenty of low and lower mid
Range specimens to satisfy the ultra thrifty bidders).

For really substantial specimens I will negotiate consignment fees.

RSVP
Thanks, Michael 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Draveil Meteorite

2012-09-19 Thread Michael Farmer
I heard all about how the museum tried to label all dealers and hunters as 
scum, robbing the French people of their heritage. Of course they didn't bother 
to spend much time hunting themselves, just begging for free meteorites from 
landowners, sadly 90% of Draveil was lost due to incompetent scientists 
refusing to release any data while not bothering to spend any time in 
recovering more specimens from the field by working at it themselves. Sad, but 
becoming more normal worldwide. 
As we see with the new Battle Mountain meteorite fall, no scientists bothered 
coming to hunt other than Marc Fries, who's cooperation was crucial in locating 
this fall, with his help we have found more than 20 pieces in the hardest 
possible terrain. If this was a French fall, it would never have been found.
Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 19, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Fabien Kuntz wwmeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hello, 
 
 
 
 we hunted the area with some friends (one hunting sometime with us living in 
 Epinay-sur-Orges, just 3.6Km from the 5Kg Main Mass !) at the same time of 
 the small Montgeron stone recovered... The locations of the previous stones 
 not officialy disclosed (but more or less known), was realy hard, and we know 
 now we hunted of of the ellipse half of the time. Always the same scenario, 
 like as the Brittany fall few months before, Hunters are heritage robbers, 
 just thinking about monney... but probably many stones lost for both private 
 and public collections because of that... Never seen on the market other 
 specimen than the one sold on ebay for charity stuff.
 
 
 Just waiting now a new french fall on MY car, that I will collect by myself, 
 the only way to be able to keep it according the french law...
 
 
 
 Fabien
 
 
 Fabien Kuntz
 Météorites (ventes, expertise, conférences)
 Animation scientifique et technique
 WWMETEORITES (Siret : 511 850 612 00017)
 www.wwmeteorites.com 
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[meteorite-list] New BLM rules on col. meteorites

2012-09-19 Thread hall
   During the Denver Show at the Merchandise Mart, a lady from the BLM
booth stopped by my Meteorhall booth, and while looking over my
meteorites for sale (none of the meteorites were from BLM land, land
that belongs to all citizens of the USA, by the way) mentioned that new
regulations for collecting meteorites had been issued by the Assistant
Director, Renewable Resources and Planning of the BLM on Sept. 10,
2012.
   Look up Instruction Memorandum No. 2012-182, or contact Lucia Kuizon,
National Paleontologist at (202) 912-7253 or lkui...@blm.gov for a copy
and information on the new rules. Here is a little taste of the new
rules: Can a mining claim be located for meteorites? Answer, NO.
Meteorites can be collected, limited to certain public lands, up to a
whopping 10 pounds per year per person, with only surface collecting.
Specimens that are casually collected (what the heck does that mean?
anyone that risks their life by searching for meteorites in the desert,
spending hundreds of dollars and many days is not casually collecting
are they?) are for personal use only, and may not be bartered or sold
for commercial purposes. However, you can get a PERMIT for commercial
use and sale, unless otherwise prohibited by other laws, regulations,
land use plans or closures. Good Luck, Fred Hall

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