[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Mifflin Contributed by: Jim Konwerski http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update - 7 New NWA OC's and an Ungrouped Achondrite
NWA 231 has at least a number. Im still waiting for the Number of this H6 Chondrite from which i got 500 grams. http://web.archive.org/web/20100821100634/http://www.cometshopnew.com/h6.html (the sample at the bottom of the list is mine) The number comes soon since August 2010! I wonder, when it finally arrives. Why does it take sooo *** long for a NUMBER? - Original Nachricht Von: John Cabassi j...@cabassi.net An: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Datum: 04.04.2013 04:15 Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update - 7 New NWA OC's and an Ungrouped Achondrite Thanks Mike, You keep me activated. I only have one wish to come true and that is that NWA 231 becomes approved and not provisional. Anthony Love, this is a yell out to you. On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bulletin-Watchers, There are 8 new approvals today. All are from the NWA dense collection area. One of them is an ungrouped achondrite. Link - http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=%2Asfor=namesants=falls=v alids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allm blist=Allrect=phot=snew=2pnt=Normal%20tabledr=page=0 Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - New Chelyabinsk Micros (3 types/sizes), Choice Darwin Glass, Big Load of Minerals/Crystals/Fossils.
Hi Listees and Collectors, I have three sizes and types of Chelyabinsk micromounts available. The larger ones are moving quick, so don't miss out on a budget-priced piece of this historic meteorite. Each one comes with a labeled gemjar. Most are crusted pieces with attached matrix. Some are fusion crust chips from IMB nodules. I also have smaller pieces available. As always, use coupon code metlist at checkout for 20% OFF all prices. If the coupon code doesn't work for some reason, contact me via email. CHELYABINSK (IMB crust micros) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/chelyabinsk-chebarkul-historic-russian-meteorite-hammer-fall-imb-crust-fragments CHELYABINSK (larger crusted micros) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/chelyabinsk-chebarkul-historic-russian-meteorite-hammer-fall-select-crusted-micros CHELYABINSK (micromounts) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/chelyabinsk-chebarkul-historic-russian-meteorite-hammer-fall-micromount Darwin Glass (stretched translucent piece) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/darwin-glass-meteorite-impact-glass-from-tasmania-translucent-stretch-piece-329g Darwin Glass (light green translucent piece) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/darwin-glass-meteorite-impact-glass-from-tasmania-green-translucent-piece-36g Darwin Glass (big green translucent slab) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/darwin-glass-meteorite-impact-glass-from-tasmania-rare-translucent-piece-10g Darwin Glass (numerous pieces of all sizes and shapes) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/products?search=darwin Campo Crystals - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/campo-del-cielo-iron-meteorite-brilliant-patina-polished-fragment Imilchil Iron Meteorite (baby small irons) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/imilchil-iron-meteorite-new-moroccan-iron-find-from-the-sahara-small-individual All new specimens - http://www.galactic-stone.com/products/brand-new?pagesize=48 Non-meteorites, rocks, crystals, fossils - Turqenite 83g Lot (Howlite) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/turquenite-lot--rough-howlite-looks-like-turquoise-83g Polished Agate and Quartz Geode - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/geode--gorgeous-little-agate-specimen-polished-and-loaded-w-crystals Tiger Eye (polished cab, 26 carats) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/tiger-eye--polished-gemmy-specimen-ready-for-jewelry-26-carats Tiger Eye (polished slab, 61 carats) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/tiger-eye-large-polished-specimen-ready-for-cabbing-61-carats Calcite Stone (polished orange) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/calcite--beautiful-polished-orange-specimen-58-carats Calcite Lot (orange, 4 rough crystals) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/calcite--orange-colored-crystals-lot-of-4-crystals-45-carats Amethyst Crystal Lot - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/amethyst-lot--polished-and-rough-crystals-7-pieces Limestone Fossil Concretion - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/limestone-fossil-concretion-sphere-natural-ball-of-fossils-from-miocene-era Nature Magazine Lot (1920's and 1930's) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/nature-magazine-lot--four-antique-science-magazines-1924-1938 Aragonite Cluster (Morocco) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/aragonite-cluster--columnar-twinned-cluster-from-morocco-75g Peacock Ore Stone (rough, 46 carats) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/peacock-ore-bornite--beautiful-and-colorful-mineral-46-carats Emerald Rough Stone (7.5 carats) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/emerald--raw-crystals-in-matrix-from-south-america-75-carats Mixed Semi-Precious Lot - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/mixed-mineral-and-gem-lot--jade-tourmaline-amethyst-garnet-bloodstone-7-pieces Mixed Mineral and Fossil Lot - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/mixed-mineral-lot-of-10--fossil-coral-amethyst-barite-rose-fluorite-petrified-wood Snowflake Obsidian (polished hand specimen) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/snowflake-obsidian--nice-polished-stone-with-prolific-markings-143g Thanks for looking and have a great weekend! MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase
Hello list, I was curious how long it took for some of you to receive your meteorites from Russia? The seller I purchased mine from stated that he sent it to me on March 11, 2013, I have yet to receive it. I want to be prudent and seek council from you before I make the decision to put a claim into PayPal. It has been a little more than three weeks, could someone more experienced in shipping to and from Russia please advise if I am correct in being a little concerned or should I give it a few more weeks. I have questioned my seller to this and have not received a satisfactory response. Yes I know the danger of dealing with someone who is a new seller, however since I used PayPal I felt assured that if it did not work out I would be able to recoup my funds. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Warm regards, Michael Brooks __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase
If you had bought from known dealers you would have by now, safe and secure. Why do people risk a couple $$$ Savings? All of my customers and those out known Russian friends are happy as can be right now. Michael Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Michael Brooks michael13_bro...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello list, I was curious how long it took for some of you to receive your meteorites from Russia? The seller I purchased mine from stated that he sent it to me on March 11, 2013, I have yet to receive it. I want to be prudent and seek council from you before I make the decision to put a claim into PayPal. It has been a little more than three weeks, could someone more experienced in shipping to and from Russia please advise if I am correct in being a little concerned or should I give it a few more weeks. I have questioned my seller to this and have not received a satisfactory response. Yes I know the danger of dealing with someone who is a new seller, however since I used PayPal I felt assured that if it did not work out I would be able to recoup my funds. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Warm regards, Michael Brooks __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase
Hello Michael and list, Again, the money is not an issue since I paid through PayPal. The reason I took a chance was that I wanted to find a fresh specimen and was willing to take a small risk for a big reward. I felt spending less than $200.00 was worth it. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: If you had bought from known dealers you would have by now, safe and secure. Why do people risk a couple $$$ Savings? All of my customers and those out known Russian friends are happy as can be right now. Michael Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Michael Brooks michael13_bro...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello list, I was curious how long it took for some of you to receive your meteorites from Russia? The seller I purchased mine from stated that he sent it to me on March 11, 2013, I have yet to receive it. I want to be prudent and seek council from you before I make the decision to put a claim into PayPal. It has been a little more than three weeks, could someone more experienced in shipping to and from Russia please advise if I am correct in being a little concerned or should I give it a few more weeks. I have questioned my seller to this and have not received a satisfactory response. Yes I know the danger of dealing with someone who is a new seller, however since I used PayPal I felt assured that if it did not work out I would be able to recoup my funds. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Warm regards, Michael Brooks __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase
Hi Michael. I am sorry to hear this but be patient. I purchased my meteorite on March 24 and received it April 2, coming from Latvia. I was a bit worried as well, but researched this Seller before bidding. Boy did he surprise me! Not only was shipping fast (about 10 days) but it was packed to withstand entry through the Earth's atmosphere. Not only that I had to sign for it and it came in a very nice white square Gem case with a glass front! My shipping cost was only $8! Anyways here is a link to my Gallery of Meteorites Collection so you can go to the C's and you can see the case and meteorite Chelyabinsk I purchased. Its only a 1.15 gm whole stone 100% crust, but its a beauty. Of course first thing I did when I received it was place it to a neodymium magnet of which it took to. Be patient as I have had to wait as much as 30 days on some of my collection. I do agree its getting a bit long but it seems when I get edgy about it as I am sure you are, that all of a sudden it arrives in the mail a day or 2 later. Here is the link to my Gallery of Meteorites as I just added the Chelyabinsk specimen the other day. Let me know Michael when it arrives. http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/meteorite_collection.html Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 - Original Message - From: Michael Brooks michael13_bro...@yahoo.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 1:24 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase Hello list, I was curious how long it took for some of you to receive your meteorites from Russia? The seller I purchased mine from stated that he sent it to me on March 11, 2013, I have yet to receive it. I want to be prudent and seek council from you before I make the decision to put a claim into PayPal. It has been a little more than three weeks, could someone more experienced in shipping to and from Russia please advise if I am correct in being a little concerned or should I give it a few more weeks. I have questioned my seller to this and have not received a satisfactory response. Yes I know the danger of dealing with someone who is a new seller, however since I used PayPal I felt assured that if it did not work out I would be able to recoup my funds. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Warm regards, Michael Brooks __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase
Hi Don, thanks I will let you know. Cool little Chelyabinsk you have there. Your collection in outstanding. Mike Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com wrote: Hi Michael. I am sorry to hear this but be patient. I purchased my meteorite on March 24 and received it April 2, coming from Latvia. I was a bit worried as well, but researched this Seller before bidding. Boy did he surprise me! Not only was shipping fast (about 10 days) but it was packed to withstand entry through the Earth's atmosphere. Not only that I had to sign for it and it came in a very nice white square Gem case with a glass front! My shipping cost was only $8! Anyways here is a link to my Gallery of Meteorites Collection so you can go to the C's and you can see the case and meteorite Chelyabinsk I purchased. Its only a 1.15 gm whole stone 100% crust, but its a beauty. Of course first thing I did when I received it was place it to a neodymium magnet of which it took to. Be patient as I have had to wait as much as 30 days on some of my collection. I do agree its getting a bit long but it seems when I get edgy about it as I am sure you are, that all of a sudden it arrives in the mail a day or 2 later. Here is the link to my Gallery of Meteorites as I just added the Chelyabinsk specimen the other day. Let me know Michael when it arrives. http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/meteorite_collection.html Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 - Original Message - From: Michael Brooks michael13_bro...@yahoo.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 1:24 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase Hello list, I was curious how long it took for some of you to receive your meteorites from Russia? The seller I purchased mine from stated that he sent it to me on March 11, 2013, I have yet to receive it. I want to be prudent and seek council from you before I make the decision to put a claim into PayPal. It has been a little more than three weeks, could someone more experienced in shipping to and from Russia please advise if I am correct in being a little concerned or should I give it a few more weeks. I have questioned my seller to this and have not received a satisfactory response. Yes I know the danger of dealing with someone who is a new seller, however since I used PayPal I felt assured that if it did not work out I would be able to recoup my funds. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Warm regards, Michael Brooks __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase
There now. Don't you feel properly stupid? Did Mike succeed in making you sorry you didn't buy something from him instead? Listen my friend, Many of us act on our own and do just nicely, If you bought from Andrey Barakshin that lives in Finland, don't worry you will get your goods. I bought from him and it took several weeks. He was in Russia buying stones when I committed for a half dozen and he had to go back to Finland to do his prep and mailing. It takes time. I also bught from common villagers who had found out about Ebay from selling car parts. Both of them turned out to be real gentlmen, but it took longer to receive them. We have some self appointed Masters of the Art for which the finding, buying, trading and selling of things meteoric is the way they pay the rent and send the girl friend flowers, so don't expect a pat on the back and a generous little tip on how to save a buck, or cut a corner drom them.. To them,meteorites are a business and a game of oneupsmanship. Remember that. Relax. I bet you'll get your stones. Amd if someting does delay ithem, I'll bet it wasn't because of whom you dealt with. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Sent: Apr 5, 2013 11:27 AM To: Michael Brooks michael13_bro...@yahoo.com Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase If you had bought from known dealers you would have by now, safe and secure. Why do people risk a couple $$$ Savings? All of my customers and those out known Russian friends are happy as can be right now. Michael Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Michael Brooks michael13_bro...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello list, I was curious how long it took for some of you to receive your meteorites from Russia? The seller I purchased mine from stated that he sent it to me on March 11, 2013, I have yet to receive it. I want to be prudent and seek council from you before I make the decision to put a claim into PayPal. It has been a little more than three weeks, could someone more experienced in shipping to and from Russia please advise if I am correct in being a little concerned or should I give it a few more weeks. I have questioned my seller to this and have not received a satisfactory response. Yes I know the danger of dealing with someone who is a new seller, however since I used PayPal I felt assured that if it did not work out I would be able to recoup my funds. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Warm regards, Michael Brooks __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase
Thank you Mike. Be patient! Don - Original Message - From: Michael Brooks michael13_bro...@yahoo.com To: Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase Hi Don, thanks I will let you know. Cool little Chelyabinsk you have there. Your collection in outstanding. Mike Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com wrote: Hi Michael. I am sorry to hear this but be patient. I purchased my meteorite on March 24 and received it April 2, coming from Latvia. I was a bit worried as well, but researched this Seller before bidding. Boy did he surprise me! Not only was shipping fast (about 10 days) but it was packed to withstand entry through the Earth's atmosphere. Not only that I had to sign for it and it came in a very nice white square Gem case with a glass front! My shipping cost was only $8! Anyways here is a link to my Gallery of Meteorites Collection so you can go to the C's and you can see the case and meteorite Chelyabinsk I purchased. Its only a 1.15 gm whole stone 100% crust, but its a beauty. Of course first thing I did when I received it was place it to a neodymium magnet of which it took to. Be patient as I have had to wait as much as 30 days on some of my collection. I do agree its getting a bit long but it seems when I get edgy about it as I am sure you are, that all of a sudden it arrives in the mail a day or 2 later. Here is the link to my Gallery of Meteorites as I just added the Chelyabinsk specimen the other day. Let me know Michael when it arrives. http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/meteorite_collection.html Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 - Original Message - From: Michael Brooks michael13_bro...@yahoo.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 1:24 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase Hello list, I was curious how long it took for some of you to receive your meteorites from Russia? The seller I purchased mine from stated that he sent it to me on March 11, 2013, I have yet to receive it. I want to be prudent and seek council from you before I make the decision to put a claim into PayPal. It has been a little more than three weeks, could someone more experienced in shipping to and from Russia please advise if I am correct in being a little concerned or should I give it a few more weeks. I have questioned my seller to this and have not received a satisfactory response. Yes I know the danger of dealing with someone who is a new seller, however since I used PayPal I felt assured that if it did not work out I would be able to recoup my funds. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Warm regards, Michael Brooks __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase
Pristine perfection. Inquiries welcome. Sent from Gary's iPhone On Apr 5, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: If you had bought from known dealers you would have by now, safe and secure. Why do people risk a couple $$$ Savings? All of my customers and those out known Russian friends are happy as can be right now. Michael Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Michael Brooks michael13_bro...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello list, I was curious how long it took for some of you to receive your meteorites from Russia? The seller I purchased mine from stated that he sent it to me on March 11, 2013, I have yet to receive it. I want to be prudent and seek council from you before I make the decision to put a claim into PayPal. It has been a little more than three weeks, could someone more experienced in shipping to and from Russia please advise if I am correct in being a little concerned or should I give it a few more weeks. I have questioned my seller to this and have not received a satisfactory response. Yes I know the danger of dealing with someone who is a new seller, however since I used PayPal I felt assured that if it did not work out I would be able to recoup my funds. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Warm regards, Michael Brooks __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase
Count Diero, I wouldn't sell to you if you offered me double. There would be some scam involved:) I did not say anything about our known friends in other places. By all means, Finland and Chelyabinsk are very different places. Different shipping systems, and I have been to Chelyabinsk also:) Seems like some people on this list got burned badly in deals with you if I recall. It is dangerous buying on the net. Michael Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2013, at 12:31 PM, Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net wrote: There now. Don't you feel properly stupid? Did Mike succeed in making you sorry you didn't buy something from him instead? Listen my friend, Many of us act on our own and do just nicely, If you bought from Andrey Barakshin that lives in Finland, don't worry you will get your goods. I bought from him and it took several weeks. He was in Russia buying stones when I committed for a half dozen and he had to go back to Finland to do his prep and mailing. It takes time. I also bught from common villagers who had found out about Ebay from selling car parts. Both of them turned out to be real gentlmen, but it took longer to receive them. We have some self appointed Masters of the Art for which the finding, buying, trading and selling of things meteoric is the way they pay the rent and send the girl friend flowers, so don't expect a pat on the back and a generous little tip on how to save a buck, or cut a corner drom them.. To them,meteorites are a business and a game of oneupsmanship. Remember that. Relax. I bet you'll get your stones. Amd if someting does delay ithem, I'll bet it wasn't because of whom you dealt with. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Sent: Apr 5, 2013 11:27 AM To: Michael Brooks michael13_bro...@yahoo.com Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase If you had bought from known dealers you would have by now, safe and secure. Why do people risk a couple $$$ Savings? All of my customers and those out known Russian friends are happy as can be right now. Michael Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Michael Brooks michael13_bro...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello list, I was curious how long it took for some of you to receive your meteorites from Russia? The seller I purchased mine from stated that he sent it to me on March 11, 2013, I have yet to receive it. I want to be prudent and seek council from you before I make the decision to put a claim into PayPal. It has been a little more than three weeks, could someone more experienced in shipping to and from Russia please advise if I am correct in being a little concerned or should I give it a few more weeks. I have questioned my seller to this and have not received a satisfactory response. Yes I know the danger of dealing with someone who is a new seller, however since I used PayPal I felt assured that if it did not work out I would be able to recoup my funds. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Warm regards, Michael Brooks __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: April 1-5, 2013
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES April 1-5, 2013 o Rabe Crater Dunes (01 April 2013) http://themis.asu.edu/node/6125 o Gullies (02 April 2013) http://themis.asu.edu/node/6126 o Curiosity Landing Site (03 April 2013) http://themis.asu.edu/node/6127 o Images of Gale #2 (04 April 2013) http://themis.asu.edu/node/6128 o Images of Gale #3 (05 April 2013) http://themis.asu.edu/node/6129 All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Power Behind Primordial Soup Discovered in Meteorite
http://www.leeds.ac.uk/news/article/3386/power_behind_primordial_soup_discovered Power behind primordial soup discovered University of Leeds (United Kingdom) 4th April 13 Researchers at the University of Leeds may have solved a key puzzle about how objects from space could have kindled life on Earth. While it is generally accepted that some important ingredients for life came from meteorites bombarding the early Earth, scientists have not been able to explain how that inanimate rock transformed into the building blocks of life. This new study shows how a chemical, similar to one now found in all living cells and vital for generating the energy that makes something alive, could have been created when meteorites containing phosphorus minerals landed in hot, acidic pools of liquids around volcanoes, which were likely to have been common across the early Earth. The mystery of how living organisms sprung out of lifeless rock has long puzzled scientists, but we think that the unusual phosphorus chemicals we found could be a precursor to the batteries that now power all life on Earth. But the fact that it developed simply, in conditions similar to the early Earth, suggests this could be the missing link between geology and biology, said Dr Terry Kee, from the University's School of Chemistry, who led the research. All life on Earth is powered by a process called chemiosmosis, where the chemical adenosine triphosphate (ATP), the rechargeable chemical battery for life, is both broken down and re-formed during respiration to release energy used to drive the reactions of life, or metabolism. The complex enzymes required for both the creation and break down of ATP are unlikely to have existed on the Earth during the period when life first developed. This led scientists to look for a more basic chemical with similar properties to ATP, but that does not require enzymes to transfer energy. Phosphorus is the key element in ATP, and other fundamental building blocks of life like DNA, but the form it commonly takes on Earth, phosphorus (V), is largely insoluble in water and has a low chemical reactivity. The early Earth, however, was regularly bombarded by meteorites and interstellar dust rich in exotic minerals, including the far more reactive form of phosphorus, the iron-nickel-phosphorus mineral schreibersite. The scientists simulated the impact of such a meteorite with the hot, volcanically-active, early Earth by placing samples of the Sikhote-Alin meteorite, an iron meteorite which fell in Siberia in 1947, in acid taken from the Hveradalur geothermal area in Iceland. The rock was left to react with the acidic fluid in test tubes incubated by the surrounding hot spring for four days, followed by a further 30 days at room temperature. In their analysis of the resulting solution the scientists found the compound pyrophosphite, a molecular cousin of pyrophosphate - the part of ATP responsible for energy transfer. The scientists believe this compound could have acted as an earlier form of ATP in what they have dubbed chemical life. Chemical life would have been the intermediary step between inorganic rock and the very first living biological cell. You could think of chemical life as a machine - a robot, for example, is capable of moving and reacting to surroundings, but it is not alive. With the aid of these primitive batteries, chemicals became organised in such a way as to be capable of more complex behaviour and would have eventually developed into the living biological structures we see today, said Dr Terry Kee. The team from NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL-Caltech) working on the Curiosity rover, which landed on Mars in August last year, has recently reported the presence of phosphorus on the Red Planet. If Curiosity has found phosphorus in one of the forms we produced in Iceland, this may indicate that conditions on Mars were at one point suitable for the development of life in much the same way we now believe it developed on Earth, added Dr Kee. The team at Leeds are now working with colleagues at JPL-Caltech to understand how these early batteries and the chemical life they became part of might have developed into biological life. As part of this work they will be using facilities in the University of Leeds' Faculty of Engineering, currently used to test new fuel cells, to build a geological fuel cell using minerals and gases common on the early Earth. Researchers will apply different chemicals to its surface and monitor the reactions take place and the chemical products which develop. The team also hope to travel to Disko Island in Greenland which is home to the Earth's only naturally-occurring source of schreibersite, the mineral found in the Sikhote-Alin meteorite. Here, they hope to repeat their experiments and show that the same chemicals develop in an entirely Earth-originated setting. The paper Hydrothermal modification of the Sikhote-Alin iron meteorite under low pH geothermal
[meteorite-list] Test
Test post, please delete -- Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: High quality Leitz polarising microscope for sale
Hi all, I am selling my Leitz polarising microscope. This is a very high quality microscope with superb optics, the view through the eyepieces is amazing, very clear and bright. Please take a look at the auction link below if interested. (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=251255874930) I would prefer collection from Rossendale, Lancashire, UK but will also ship to the UK, Europe or USA. As its a delicate, heavy item unfortunately the shipping is pricey but it will be suitably packed up and protected. Not many opportunities to buy apolarising microscope as high quality as this without spending thousands of pounds especially with a starting price of 99p :-) Cheers Martin -- Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Friday Thoughts
Team Meteorite: Ron Baalke just posted a news article regarding 'mining asteroids'. Here's a quote: Platinum-group metals, or PGMs, are among the most valuable (and most talked about) resources that asteroids could yield. The price of platinum is currently just a bit less than the price of gold - about $1,520 per ounce. Anderson said a single 500-meter-wide (quarter-mile-wide) asteroid could contain more platinum than has been mined during the history of humanity. Planetary Resources is looking at a process that would turn the extracted platinum into 220-pound, 7-foot-wide wiffleballs of foamed metal that could be sent down through the atmosphere without breaking up. The balls would hit the ground at a velocity of about 60 mph. This makes me wonder. - what government entity will permit 220 lb. spheres of metal to rain down on their population and, - how come we haven't recovered any platinum-rich meteorites? Kevin Kichinka Rio del Oro, Santa Ana, Costa Rica www.theartofcollectingmeteorites.com 'The Global Meteorite Price Report - 2013' mars...@gmail.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad-Stanfield
2 Stanfield stones. 123 grams 166 grams (puzzle piece 2 parts 143 grams 23 grams) From witnessed 1998 fall in Arizona..100's of man hours in hostile environment. Great for slicing. Contact off list for pictures and pricing. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase
OK, OK, guys. No need to get all upset, there is another way to get some very good pieces of Chelyabinsk. In less than 2 weeks Dima and Serge will be right here in Denver for a Mineral show, I know they are coming and I know they are bring some pieces because they told me so. And I know that Dima was one of the first guy on the site of the fall because he even appeared in one of the earliest reports done by the BBC. So either drive up to Denver, or tell me what you want and I'll be the messenger. The Show is April 19-20-21. See you there! Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, Apr 5, 2013 1:53 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase Count Diero, I wouldn't sell to you if you offered me double. There would be some scam involved:) I did not say anything about our known friends in other places. By all means, Finland and Chelyabinsk are very different places. Different shipping systems, and I have been to Chelyabinsk also:) Seems like some people on this list got burned badly in deals with you if I recall. It is dangerous buying on the net. Michael Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2013, at 12:31 PM, Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net wrote: There now. Don't you feel properly stupid? Did Mike succeed in making you sorry you didn't buy something from him instead? Listen my friend, Many of us act on our own and do just nicely, If you bought from Andrey Barakshin that lives in Finland, don't worry you will get your goods. I bought from him and it took several weeks. He was in Russia buying stones when I committed for a half dozen and he had to go back to Finland to do his prep and mailing. It takes time. I also bught from common villagers who had found out about Ebay from selling car parts. Both of them turned out to be real gentlmen, but it took longer to receive them. We have some self appointed Masters of the Art for which the finding, buying, trading and selling of things meteoric is the way they pay the rent and send the girl friend flowers, so don't expect a pat on the back and a generous little tip on how to save a buck, or cut a corner drom them.. To them,meteorites are a business and a game of oneupsmanship. Remember that. Relax. I bet you'll get your stones. Amd if someting does delay ithem, I'll bet it wasn't because of whom you dealt with. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Sent: Apr 5, 2013 11:27 AM To: Michael Brooks michael13_bro...@yahoo.com Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase If you had bought from known dealers you would have by now, safe and secure. Why do people risk a couple $$$ Savings? All of my customers and those out known Russian friends are happy as can be right now. Michael Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Michael Brooks michael13_bro...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello list, I was curious how long it took for some of you to receive your meteorites from Russia? The seller I purchased mine from stated that he sent it to me on March 11, 2013, I have yet to receive it. I want to be prudent and seek council from you before I make the decision to put a claim into PayPal. It has been a little more than three weeks, could someone more experienced in shipping to and from Russia please advise if I am correct in being a little concerned or should I give it a few more weeks. I have questioned my seller to this and have not received a satisfactory response. Yes I know the danger of dealing with someone who is a new seller, however since I used PayPal I felt assured that if it did not work out I would be able to recoup my funds. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Warm regards, Michael Brooks __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase
I got it myself in Russia, I would have it no other way, with our Russian friends to share the fun with and to help introduce me to their land. We are all happy, we can all have some of this great meteorite, and we can all support field work. Yes, it is important for people to support us hunters, yes, we need to make a profit or pretty soon there will be no hunters left. If people refuse to support us hunters, then you can get it yourself in the future, and since I rarely run into competition on these foreign hunts, I doubt much of that will happen. It was a great event and no meteorite collection will be complete without Chelyabinsk. The whole world saw it, and the whole world wants a piece of that history-making event. Sadly the knives always come out when someone actually makes a buck. Michael Farmer On Apr 5, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Anne Black impact...@aol.com wrote: OK, OK, guys. No need to get all upset, there is another way to get some very good pieces of Chelyabinsk. In less than 2 weeks Dima and Serge will be right here in Denver for a Mineral show, I know they are coming and I know they are bring some pieces because they told me so. And I know that Dima was one of the first guy on the site of the fall because he even appeared in one of the earliest reports done by the BBC. So either drive up to Denver, or tell me what you want and I'll be the messenger. The Show is April 19-20-21. See you there! Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, Apr 5, 2013 1:53 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase Count Diero, I wouldn't sell to you if you offered me double. There would be some scam involved:) I did not say anything about our known friends in other places. By all means, Finland and Chelyabinsk are very different places. Different shipping systems, and I have been to Chelyabinsk also:) Seems like some people on this list got burned badly in deals with you if I recall. It is dangerous buying on the net. Michael Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2013, at 12:31 PM, Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net wrote: There now. Don't you feel properly stupid? Did Mike succeed in making you sorry you didn't buy something from him instead? Listen my friend, Many of us act on our own and do just nicely, If you bought from Andrey Barakshin that lives in Finland, don't worry you will get your goods. I bought from him and it took several weeks. He was in Russia buying stones when I committed for a half dozen and he had to go back to Finland to do his prep and mailing. It takes time. I also bught from common villagers who had found out about Ebay from selling car parts. Both of them turned out to be real gentlmen, but it took longer to receive them. We have some self appointed Masters of the Art for which the finding, buying, trading and selling of things meteoric is the way they pay the rent and send the girl friend flowers, so don't expect a pat on the back and a generous little tip on how to save a buck, or cut a corner drom them.. To them,meteorites are a business and a game of oneupsmanship. Remember that. Relax. I bet you'll get your stones. Amd if someting does delay ithem, I'll bet it wasn't because of whom you dealt with. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Sent: Apr 5, 2013 11:27 AM To: Michael Brooks michael13_bro...@yahoo.com Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase If you had bought from known dealers you would have by now, safe and secure. Why do people risk a couple $$$ Savings? All of my customers and those out known Russian friends are happy as can be right now. Michael Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Michael Brooks michael13_bro...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello list, I was curious how long it took for some of you to receive your meteorites from Russia? The seller I purchased mine from stated that he sent it to me on March 11, 2013, I have yet to receive it. I want to be prudent and seek council from you before I make the decision to put a claim into PayPal. It has been a little more than three weeks, could someone more experienced in shipping to and from Russia please advise if I am correct in being a little concerned or should I give it a few more weeks. I have questioned my seller to this and have not received a satisfactory response. Yes I know the danger of dealing with someone who is a new seller, however since I used PayPal I felt assured that if it did not work out I would be able to recoup my funds. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Warm regards, Michael Brooks
[meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk
I received the one from Finland in a very timely manner. I still have not received the one from Russia and it has been over a month. I was able to track it as far as Moscow and I have seen the final destination listed as U.S. The last notation is on about March 19th and then it states international. I have been in contact with the owner and he has already stated that if I open a case he will pay for the stone. I am going to wait another week first. I'm quite sure the sender is not at any fault. Linda Barany __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk
Customs from Russia is very difficult. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Linda Barany lbar...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I received the one from Finland in a very timely manner. I still have not received the one from Russia and it has been over a month. I was able to track it as far as Moscow and I have seen the final destination listed as U.S. The last notation is on about March 19th and then it states international. I have been in contact with the owner and he has already stated that if I open a case he will pay for the stone. I am going to wait another week first. I'm quite sure the sender is not at any fault. Linda Barany __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk
Mine got here in 6 days from Prague. :-) * Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 Sirius Meteorites Node35 - Sentinel All Sky http://spacerocks.weebly.com * -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 6:57 PM To: Linda Barany Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk Customs from Russia is very difficult. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Linda Barany lbar...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I received the one from Finland in a very timely manner. I still have not received the one from Russia and it has been over a month. I was able to track it as far as Moscow and I have seen the final destination listed as U.S. The last notation is on about March 19th and then it states international. I have been in contact with the owner and he has already stated that if I open a case he will pay for the stone. I am going to wait another week first. I'm quite sure the sender is not at any fault. Linda Barany __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk
I will say that shipping times can be very long sometimes. I once had to wait 4 weeks for one from Poland and I believe 3 weeks even from Germany. Best, Mendy Ouzillou From: Linda Barany lbar...@sbcglobal.net To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 3:48 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk I received the one from Finland in a very timely manner. I still have not received the one from Russia and it has been over a month. I was able to track it as far as Moscow and I have seen the final destination listed as U.S. The last notation is on about March 19th and then it states international. I have been in contact with the owner and he has already stated that if I open a case he will pay for the stone. I am going to wait another week first. I'm quite sure the sender is not at any fault. Linda Barany __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk
Hi Linda, and Michael - Did you bid or purchase from a seller(s) on eBay? Did it happen to be either a seller called .a., or jevgenijss? Besides Mike Farmer, I've purchased from both of these sellers more than once (I'm speaking of Chelyabinsk specifically right now) and have had no problems whatsoever with either. The seller, .a. works with a dependable, and trustworthy fellow who lives in the Chelyabinsk region who goes around buying pieces from the locals as well as finding his own specimens. Since he ships them directly from Chelyabinsk when they are sold by .a. on eBay, it does take as much as 4 weeks or more to receive a package coming out of Russia ( almost a week or longer from Chelyabinsk to Moscow alone ) due to their antiquated, and extremely inefficient, postal system. If you did buy from .a. ( his real name is Michael, or his mother, Maria) did you receive a tracking number? I found him very professional, extremely personable, and above board, as well as his partner in Russia. Don't know if you purchased from either of these two I've mentioned, but if you did, I'm just trying to reassure you things should be fine. The specimens I purchased from .a. (aka Michael) for instance (since they were coming directly out of Russia and Chelyabinsk took 26 days to arrive safely in my hands. I purchased them on March 6, and didn't get the parcel until April 1. If it was .a. whom you purchased from, don't worry, he's got your back 100% if something should happen to your parcel and it doesn't make before the shipment arrival window expires as given on eBay. Did you read my little write up on the list a few days ago of how I got my specimens out of Russia? They were extremely well hidden/disguised to be smuggled out of Russia safely past unsuspecting Russian postal employees and customs officials who may have prying eyes and sticky figures at times. I wrote a longer (much too long) piece with photos that I sent to those on the list that asked for more details. If you're interested ( and like to read long tedious write-ups ), I'll email you a copy. At least the photos are worth it if not the narrative itself. :-) Wishing you good fortune - Mal IMCA#6819 On 4/5/2013 6:48 PM, Linda Barany wrote: I received the one from Finland in a very timely manner. I still have not received the one from Russia and it has been over a month. I was able to track it as far as Moscow and I have seen the final destination listed as U.S. The last notation is on about March 19th and then it states international. I have been in contact with the owner and he has already stated that if I open a case he will pay for the stone. I am going to wait another week first. I'm quite sure the sender is not at any fault. Linda Barany __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk
Hi Mendy, list - I twice had to wait about 3 months for shippings from USA to Germany. I have been pretty nervous, yes, but I did know from whom I bought the items and never lost the confidence - finally they arrived, in best condition. Over yers I never lost one parcel. So: better to get them late than to loose them soon ;-) Best as ever - Matthias - Original Message - From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Linda Barany lbar...@sbcglobal.net; met-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk I will say that shipping times can be very long sometimes. I once had to wait 4 weeks for one from Poland and I believe 3 weeks even from Germany. Best, Mendy Ouzillou From: Linda Barany lbar...@sbcglobal.net To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 3:48 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk I received the one from Finland in a very timely manner. I still have not received the one from Russia and it has been over a month. I was able to track it as far as Moscow and I have seen the final destination listed as U.S. The last notation is on about March 19th and then it states international. I have been in contact with the owner and he has already stated that if I open a case he will pay for the stone. I am going to wait another week first. I'm quite sure the sender is not at any fault. Linda Barany __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD:large piece( 29Kg )OC and lot Imilchil
Hello List i have an Large OC piece and lot Imilchil contains some nice smaller pieces for sale at very good price ,please feel free to contacte me off list if you are interested Best greetings -- Rachid Chaoui IMCA # 4157 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Friday Thoughts
Kevin, List, A 500 meter asteroid would weigh about 144 million tons. In rock generally (Earth's crust) platinum makes up about 1/1,000,000 of 1%. There would be about 1.5 tons of platinum, or 1500 kilos, or 1,500,000 grams, worth about $2,250,000,000. More or less. All you have to do is pick through it one atom at a time and drop all the platinum atoms into a baggie... You'll need about 3,000 baggies for your asteroid's platinum. And a pair of atomic tweezers. However, Planetary Resources is welcome to drop one of their platinum wiffleballs in my back yard any time. http://www.economist.com/node/21553419 The platimun value of Earth rock wouldn't pay the mission cost, much less the cost of its own extraction. But it is beieved that asteroids are much richer in these materials than the Earth's crust. The current theory is that asteroids brought these materials to Earth but that they followed the iron down into the core during formation, leaving only traces behind. The highest meteoritic abundances are found in the metal-rich phases of chondrites and in iron meteorites. Abundances are similar to iridium. (Remember the iridium marker zone 65 million years ago?) http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/24/us-space-asteroid-mining-idUSBRE83N06U20120424 Planetary Resources... said a 30-meter long (98-foot) asteroid can hold as much as $25 billion to $50 billion worth of platinum at today's prices, [co-founder] Diamandis said. The abundance of platinum may be as much as 900 times more than earth's crustal rocks. That would make our 500 meter example (above) worth 2 TRILLION in platinum. Here's another interesting reference on asteroidal platinum: http://www.astronomysource.com/tag/platinum-from-asteroids/ Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: Kevin Kichinka mars...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 4:02 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Friday Thoughts Team Meteorite: Ron Baalke just posted a news article regarding 'mining asteroids'. Here's a quote: Platinum-group metals, or PGMs, are among the most valuable (and most talked about) resources that asteroids could yield. The price of platinum is currently just a bit less than the price of gold - about $1,520 per ounce. Anderson said a single 500-meter-wide (quarter-mile-wide) asteroid could contain more platinum than has been mined during the history of humanity. Planetary Resources is looking at a process that would turn the extracted platinum into 220-pound, 7-foot-wide wiffleballs of foamed metal that could be sent down through the atmosphere without breaking up. The balls would hit the ground at a velocity of about 60 mph. This makes me wonder. - what government entity will permit 220 lb. spheres of metal to rain down on their population and, - how come we haven't recovered any platinum-rich meteorites? Kevin Kichinka Rio del Oro, Santa Ana, Costa Rica www.theartofcollectingmeteorites.com 'The Global Meteorite Price Report - 2013' mars...@gmail.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase
Wow I didn't expect so many responses. So let me be more specific: No, I will not be buying a whole bunch for myself, maybe one fragment to make thin-sections, that's it (everybody has it so why should I be like everybody??) ;-) So if you want me to do some shopping for you, tell me exacty what you want (size, whole, broken,etc) and a price limit would be good too, because I don't know what Dima/Serge's prices will be. A phone number could be helpful too so I can tell you what it is I am looking at. A quick payment thru Paypal will be appreciated, and I will mail it to you right after the show. Any other questions? Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Anne Black impact...@aol.com To: mike m...@meteoriteguy.com; countdeiro countde...@earthlink.net Cc: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, Apr 5, 2013 4:16 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase OK, OK, guys. No need to get all upset, there is another way to get some very good pieces of Chelyabinsk. In less than 2 weeks Dima and Serge will be right here in Denver for a Mineral show, I know they are coming and I know they are bring some pieces because they told me so. And I know that Dima was one of the first guy on the site of the fall because he even appeared in one of the earliest reports done by the BBC. So either drive up to Denver, or tell me what you want and I'll be the messenger. The Show is April 19-20-21. See you there! Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, Apr 5, 2013 1:53 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase Count Diero, I wouldn't sell to you if you offered me double. There would be some scam involved:) I did not say anything about our known friends in other places. By all means, Finland and Chelyabinsk are very different places. Different shipping systems, and I have been to Chelyabinsk also:) Seems like some people on this list got burned badly in deals with you if I recall. It is dangerous buying on the net. Michael Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2013, at 12:31 PM, Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net wrote: There now. Don't you feel properly stupid? Did Mike succeed in making you sorry you didn't buy something from him instead? Listen my friend, Many of us act on our own and do just nicely, If you bought from Andrey Barakshin that lives in Finland, don't worry you will get your goods. I bought from him and it took several weeks. He was in Russia buying stones when I committed for a half dozen and he had to go back to Finland to do his prep and mailing. It takes time. I also bught from common villagers who had found out about Ebay from selling car parts. Both of them turned out to be real gentlmen, but it took longer to receive them. We have some self appointed Masters of the Art for which the finding, buying, trading and selling of things meteoric is the way they pay the rent and send the girl friend flowers, so don't expect a pat on the back and a generous little tip on how to save a buck, or cut a corner drom them.. To them,meteorites are a business and a game of oneupsmanship. Remember that. Relax. I bet you'll get your stones. Amd if someting does delay ithem, I'll bet it wasn't because of whom you dealt with. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Sent: Apr 5, 2013 11:27 AM To: Michael Brooks michael13_bro...@yahoo.com Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase If you had bought from known dealers you would have by now, safe and secure. Why do people risk a couple $$$ Savings? All of my customers and those out known Russian friends are happy as can be right now. Michael Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Michael Brooks michael13_bro...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello list, I was curious how long it took for some of you to receive your meteorites from Russia? The seller I purchased mine from stated that he sent it to me on March 11, 2013, I have yet to receive it. I want to be prudent and seek council from you before I make the decision to put a claim into PayPal. It has been a little more than three weeks, could someone more experienced in shipping to and from Russia please advise if I am correct in being a little concerned or should I give it a few more weeks. I have questioned my seller to this and have not received a satisfactory response. Yes I know the danger of dealing with someone who is a new seller, however since I used PayPal I felt assured that if it did not work out I would be able to recoup my funds. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Warm regards, Michael Brooks __ Visit the Archives at
[meteorite-list] PBS/NOVA Chelyabinsk documentary for viewing :)
Hello Listers If you like to view the PBS/NOVA documentary on the Chelyabinsk please let me know, I have a file of it thats on my dropbox account where I have send you an invite and you can view the video and also download it to watch the whole episode. If you like to see this and two other Chelyabinsk documentaries please email me off the list with the email you would like me to send the invite to :) Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html http://meteoritefalls.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sign Up Now for your Mineral Rights (Mining Asteroids for Platinum)
Team Meteorite: When Ron Baalke forwarded today a news article about mining asteroids for platinum, I at once thought of science-fiction movies I have seen from behind a box of artificially-buttered popcorn. You know, those flicks where slaves from Earth work 84 year-days far beneath the surface of some bare rock-moon in space partnered with creatures normally viewed among the protozoa. Of course there is no possible escape from this living death, but movies need happy endings so our heroes always make it home to their Honey. Mining asteroids seems a bit far-fetched to me. But ask a question or make a comment on the m-list and someone opens the door to knowledge for you. Just walk through. Thanks to Randy Korotev, I know that OC's may contain Pt at ore-grade concentrates of 1ppm. But really, how concentrated is that I wondered, ever the sceptic. Two seconds research informed me that Platinum is an extremely rare metal, occurring at a concentration of only 0.005 ppm in the Earth's crust. Looking deeper into the topic (research is like mining, just keep digging and you'll always find your bone) ... Platinum exists in higher abundances on the Moon and in meteorites. Correspondingly, platinum is found in slightly higher abundances at sites of bolide impact on the Earth that are associated with resulting post-impact volcanism, and can be mined economically; the Sudbury Basin is one such example. And... From 1889 to 1960, the meter was defined as the length of a platinum-iridium (90:10) alloy bar, known as the International Prototype Meter bar. The previous bar was made of platinum in 1799. The International Prototype Kilogram remains defined by a cylinder of the same platinum-iridium alloy made in 1879. Those two paragraphs were uncovered from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platinum Sterling Webb's ever astute comments and links gave me leads and info so that with a little follow-up I've also learned - - the total mass of all asteroids equals about 4% of our Moon's mass. (I had always thought the sum was equal to a 'broken' or 'aborted' planet the size of Mars or larger). - C-type asteroids are carbonaceous and the most common. Consisting of clay and silicate rocks they exist furthest from the Sun in the outer Belt and are the least altered by heat. They may consist of up to 22% water. - S-type 'silaceous' asteroids are primarily stony materials and nickle-iron and are found in the inner belt. - M-type asteroids are mostly nickle-iron and range in the middle region. One linked article allows that because C-type asteroids are expected to have water they will be targeted first, the hydrogen and oxygen split to create fuel. (H-m-m-m-m-m, but 'closer' asteroids is 'better' asteroids). Most importantly, is mining platinum on asteroids and delivering it to Earth like so many storks bringing babies from outer space cost effective? It was estimated that a single 30m asteroid might yield $25-50 billion worth of Pt, more or less 40,000 to 80,000kg at 'today's prices'. The world's total Pt output was 192,000kg in 2010. From the 'Economist' article link (BTW - my favorite magazine, Sterling) we learn, ...the real doubt over this sort of enterprise is not the supply, but the demand. Platinum, iridium and the rest are expensive precisely because they are rare. Make them common, by digging them out of the heart of a shattered planet, and they will become cheap. The most important members of the team, then, may not be the entrepreneurs and venture capitalists who put up the drive and the money, nor the engineers who build the hardware that makes it all possible, but the economists who try to work out the effect on the price of platinum when a mountain of the stuff arrives from outer space. . leaving me calculating the 'present value' of all this precious metal in 'Bitcoins' :) Happy week-end. Kevin Kichinka Rio del Oro, Santa Ana, Costa Rica www.theartofcollectingmeteorites.com 'The Global Meteorite Price Report - 2013' mars...@gmail.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sign Up Now for your Mineral Rights (Mining Asteroids for Platinum)
Just wait until you see the BLM permitting process to establish a mining claim on an asteroid... Michael is so. Cal. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Kevin Kichinka mars...@gmail.com wrote: Team Meteorite: When Ron Baalke forwarded today a news article about mining asteroids for platinum, I at once thought of science-fiction movies I have seen from behind a box of artificially-buttered popcorn. You know, those flicks where slaves from Earth work 84 year-days far beneath the surface of some bare rock-moon in space partnered with creatures normally viewed among the protozoa. Of course there is no possible escape from this living death, but movies need happy endings so our heroes always make it home to their Honey. Mining asteroids seems a bit far-fetched to me. But ask a question or make a comment on the m-list and someone opens the door to knowledge for you. Just walk through. Thanks to Randy Korotev, I know that OC's may contain Pt at ore-grade concentrates of 1ppm. But really, how concentrated is that I wondered, ever the sceptic. Two seconds research informed me that Platinum is an extremely rare metal, occurring at a concentration of only 0.005 ppm in the Earth's crust. Looking deeper into the topic (research is like mining, just keep digging and you'll always find your bone) ... Platinum exists in higher abundances on the Moon and in meteorites. Correspondingly, platinum is found in slightly higher abundances at sites of bolide impact on the Earth that are associated with resulting post-impact volcanism, and can be mined economically; the Sudbury Basin is one such example. And... From 1889 to 1960, the meter was defined as the length of a platinum-iridium (90:10) alloy bar, known as the International Prototype Meter bar. The previous bar was made of platinum in 1799. The International Prototype Kilogram remains defined by a cylinder of the same platinum-iridium alloy made in 1879. Those two paragraphs were uncovered from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platinum Sterling Webb's ever astute comments and links gave me leads and info so that with a little follow-up I've also learned - - the total mass of all asteroids equals about 4% of our Moon's mass. (I had always thought the sum was equal to a 'broken' or 'aborted' planet the size of Mars or larger). - C-type asteroids are carbonaceous and the most common. Consisting of clay and silicate rocks they exist furthest from the Sun in the outer Belt and are the least altered by heat. They may consist of up to 22% water. - S-type 'silaceous' asteroids are primarily stony materials and nickle-iron and are found in the inner belt. - M-type asteroids are mostly nickle-iron and range in the middle region. One linked article allows that because C-type asteroids are expected to have water they will be targeted first, the hydrogen and oxygen split to create fuel. (H-m-m-m-m-m, but 'closer' asteroids is 'better' asteroids). Most importantly, is mining platinum on asteroids and delivering it to Earth like so many storks bringing babies from outer space cost effective? It was estimated that a single 30m asteroid might yield $25-50 billion worth of Pt, more or less 40,000 to 80,000kg at 'today's prices'. The world's total Pt output was 192,000kg in 2010. From the 'Economist' article link (BTW - my favorite magazine, Sterling) we learn, ...the real doubt over this sort of enterprise is not the supply, but the demand. Platinum, iridium and the rest are expensive precisely because they are rare. Make them common, by digging them out of the heart of a shattered planet, and they will become cheap. The most important members of the team, then, may not be the entrepreneurs and venture capitalists who put up the drive and the money, nor the engineers who build the hardware that makes it all possible, but the economists who try to work out the effect on the price of platinum when a mountain of the stuff arrives from outer space. . leaving me calculating the 'present value' of all this precious metal in 'Bitcoins' :) Happy week-end. Kevin Kichinka Rio del Oro, Santa Ana, Costa Rica www.theartofcollectingmeteorites.com 'The Global Meteorite Price Report - 2013' mars...@gmail.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
