Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-11-12 Thread Michel FRANCO
Hellon

I wander if the vote counter works right?
I made a vote that did not appeared in the right colomn.
Is there any delay in displaying the votes ?
Regards.
Michel Franco
IMCA 3969


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Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: VOTE

Contributed by: Hominis Mysterium

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2013-11-12 Thread Aid Mohamed
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Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar meteorite casts?

2013-11-12 Thread Adam Hupe
Actually, that is Dr. Brownlee, the lead scientist for the NASA Stardust 
mission holding the real NWA 5000 main mass over his head the same day it 
arrived in the U.S.  This image 
lends scale to this massive Moon rock!

Adam



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From: Raymond Borges borgesraym...@gmail.com
To: Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar meteorite casts?

Wow, that's just great!
Don't think I would have held the real meteorite over my head like
that though, maybe the cast.


Raymond Borges
MSCS/BSCpE
SREB Fellow
CS Ph.D. Student
Lane Department of CS/EE
West Virginia University



On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net wrote:
 Hello Raymond,

 Here is a link to the photo gallery on the NWA 5000 web site, you will see
 the only replica of it made.
 http://www.themeteoritesite.com/gallery.html

 Best Regards,
 Greg

 
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 -Original Message- From: Raymond Borges
 Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 3:25 PM
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Lunar meteorite casts?


 Hello!

 Anyone know of any Lunar meteorite casts in existence?
 I know of only 2 Mars meteorite casts, NWA 1195 and DaG 735.
 And also, wouldn't it be nice if there was a nice NWA 7325 cast, with
 that spectacular green fusion crust?

 Raymond Borges
 spacerocks.org
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[meteorite-list] 2014 International Meteor Conference

2013-11-12 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.imo.net/imo/imc

International Meteor Conference (IMC)

Each year the International Meteor Organization organizes a four-day
conference where about 100 meteor enthusiasts from around the world
attend lectures and share their experience. Since the founding of the
International Meteor Organization, the International Meteor Conferences
(IMCs) have guaranteed the vital personal contacts between its members.


IMC 2014

The 2014 International Meteor Conference will take place in Giron,
France, 18-21 September 2014. The standard 2014 IMC fee is 170 EUR
(rooms 3-6 persons). Double and single rooms are offered at 195 EUR and
220 EUR respectively. As IMC excursion we will visit CERN (near Geneva,
50 km from Giron). The 2014 IMC website will soon be available.

What to expect?

The IMC lecture and poster program features both beginning amateurs as
well as top meteor experts. Each IMC also offers an excursion, a
conference welcome package with an IMC T-shirt, full board and
conference Proceedings. The complete IMC format is offered at a very low
price *all-in* which is rather unique for such a conference. Another
aspect of these events, the legendary IMC spirit, cannot be captured in
words, it can only be fully experienced live. The scientific resources
and socializing at an IMC are so extremely rich that no meteor
enthusiasts can resist to attend each IMC whenever he or she can.

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[meteorite-list] Russia's Phobos Sample Return Mission Will Contain Bits of Mars

2013-11-12 Thread Ron Baalke


http://news.brown.edu/pressreleases/2013/11/phobos

Martian moon samples will have bits of Mars
Kevin Stacey
Brown University
November 11, 2013

A Russian mission to the Martian moon Phobos, launching in 2020, would 
return samples from Phobos that contain bits and pieces of Mars itself. 
A new study calculates how much Martian material is on the surface of 
Phobos and how deep it is likely to go.

PROVIDENCE, R.I. - A planned mission to return a sample from the Martian 
moon Phobos will likely be a twofer, according to a study by Brown University 
geologists.

The study helps to confirm the idea that the surface of Phobos contains 
tons of dust, soil, and rock blown off the Martian surface by large projectile 
impacts. Phobos’ orbital path plows through occasional plumes of Martian 
debris, meaning the tiny moon has been gathering Martian castoffs for 
millions of years. That means a sample-return mission planned by the Russian 
space agency could sample two celestial bodies for the price of one.

The mission is scheduled to be flown early in the next decade, so the 
question is not academic, said James Head, professor of geological sciences 
and an author on the study. This work shows that samples from Mars can 
indeed be found in the soil of Phobos, and how their concentration might 
change with depth. That will be critical in the design of the drills other 
equipment.

The research appears in the latest issue of Space and Planetary Science.

The Russian mission will be the space agency's second attempt to return 
a sample from Phobos. Head was a participating scientist on the first 
try, which launched in 2011, but an engine failure felled the spacecraft 
before it could leave Earth orbit. The next attempt is scheduled to launch 
in 2020 or shortly thereafter.

This new research grew out of preparation for the original mission, which 
would still be en route to Phobos had it not encountered problems. Scientists 
had long assumed Phobos likely contained Martian bits, but Russian mission 
planners wanted to know just how much might be there and where it might 
be found. They turned to Head and Ken Ramsley, a visiting researcher in 
Brown's planetary geosciences group.

To answer those questions, Ramsley and Head started with a model based 
on our own Moon to estimate how much of Phobos' regolith (loose rock and 
dust on the surface) would come from projectiles. They then used gravitational 
and orbital data to determine what proportion of that projectile material 
came from Mars.

When an impactor hits Mars, only a certain of proportion of ejecta will 
have enough velocity to reach the altitude of Phobos, and Phobos' orbital 
path intersects only a certain proportion of that, Ramsley said. So 
we can crunch those numbers and find out what proportion of material on 
the surface of Phobos comes from Mars.

According to those calculations, the regolith on Phobos should contain 
Martian material at a rate of about 250 parts per million. The Martian 
bits should be distributed fairly evenly across the surface, mostly in 
the upper layers of regolith, the researchers showed.

Only recently - in the last several 100 million years or so - has Phobos 
orbited so close to Mars, Ramsley said. In the distant past it orbited 
much higher up. So that's why you're going to see probably 10 to 100 times 
higher concentration in the upper regolith as opposed to deeper down.

And while 250 parts per million doesn't sound like a lot, the possibility 
of returning even a little Martian material to Earth gets planetary scientists 
excited. It's a nice bonus for a mission primarily aimed at learning more 
about Phobos, a mysterious little rock in its own right.

Scientists are still not sure where it came from. Is it a chunk of Mars 
that was knocked off by an impact early in Martian history, or is it an 
asteroid snared in Mars' orbit? There are also questions about whether 
its interior might hold significant amounts of water.

Phobos has really low density, Head said. Is that low density due to 
ice in its interior or is it due to Phobos being completely fragmented, 
like a loose rubble pile? We don't know.

If all goes well, the upcoming Russian mission will help solve some of 
those mysteries about Phobos. And we might learn a good deal about Mars 
in the process.

Editors: Brown University has a fiber link television studio available 
for domestic and international live and taped interviews, and maintains 
an ISDN line for radio interviews. For more information, call (401) 863-2476.

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[meteorite-list] 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Bacterial Ecosystems Found In Western Australia

2013-11-12 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.news.uwa.edu.au/20136238/research/pilbara-home-35-billion-year-old-bacterial-ecosystems

Pilbara home to 3.5 billion-year-old bacterial ecosystems
The University of Western Australia
November 11, 2013
 
Evidence of complex microbial ecosystems dating back almost 3.5 billion 
years has been found in Western Australia's Pilbara region by an international 
team including UWA Research Assistant Professor David Wacey.

The research, published this week in the journal Astrobiology has revealed 
the well-preserved remnants of a complex ecosystem in a 3.5 billion-year-old 
sedimentary rock sequence.

Professor Wacey said identifying and reconstructing Earth's earliest biosphere 
was challenging because the oldest sedimentary rocks were not only rare, 
but also almost always changed by hydrothermal and tectonic activity.

The Pilbara region of Western Australia is one of the rare geological 
regions that provides insight into the early evolution of life on Earth, 
he said.

Mound-like deposits created by ancient bacteria, called stromatolites, 
and microfossils of bacteria have previously been discovered in this region. 
 However, a phenomenon called microbially induced sedimentary structures, 
or MISS, had not previously been seen in rocks of this great age.

MISS were created by microbial mats as the microbial communities responded 
to changes in physical sediment dynamics, Professor Wacey said.

A common example would be the binding together of sediment grains by 
microbes to prevent their erosion by water currents, he said.  The 
significance 
of MISS is that they not only demonstrate the presence of life, but also 
the presence of whole microbial ecosystems that could co-ordinate with 
one another to respond to changes in their environment.

Professor Wacey, based at the ARC Centre of Excellence for Core to Crust 
Fluid Systems, the Centre for Microscopy, Characterisation and Analysis, 
and the Centre for Exploration Targeting, worked with US colleagues Nora 
Noffke and Daniel Christian of Old Dominion University, and Bob Hazen 
of the Carnegie Institute Washington.

The team described the various MISS from the ancient coastal flats preserved 
in the Dresser Formation and found close similarities in both form and 
preservation style to MISS in younger rocks.

Associate Professor Noffke, lead author of the paper, said the research 
extended the geological record of MISS by almost 300 million years and 
showed that complex mat-forming microbial communities likely existed almost 
3.5 billion years ago.

MISS are among the targets of Mars rovers, which search for similar biological 
signals on that planet's surface.  Hence, the team's findings could be 
significant for studies of life elsewhere in our solar system.

Media references

Assistant Professor David Wacey (Centre for Microscopy, Characterisation 
and Analysis)  (+61 8)  6488 8064
UWA Public Affairs Media Team  (+61 8)  6488 7977  /  (+61 4) 32 637 716

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[meteorite-list] Tracking Cameras in Australia Aim to Unlock Meteorite Mysteries

2013-11-12 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2013/11/12/3889197.htm 

Tracking cameras aim to unlock meteorite mysteries
By Eloise Fuss
Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC)
November 12, 2013

The ones that people normally call shooting stars are often really really 
small, just sand grains that come into our atmosphere, explains Professor 
Phil Bland. The bigger things that you see, the bright fireballs are 
from chunks of rock, those are meteorites.

Curtin University researcher Phil Bland is an expert when it comes to 
meteorites, but he's hoping a new project tracking meteors across the 
Australian sky will help uncover more about their mystifying origins.

There's something like 50,000 meteorites now in collections around the 
world and people do a ton of science on those and go to great lengths 
to collect them. But we only really know where 14 or 15 of them out of 
that 50,000 come from in the solar system.

Mr Bland says they're getting closer to finding an answer. He has just 
returned from a research trip to the Nullarbor, as part of his project 
placing a network of meteor tracking cameras through regional and remote 
areas of Australia.

Basically they'll be taking pictures of the night sky continuously, so 
we can track everything that comes through the atmosphere.

He said this work will cover about a third of Australia when it's done, 
and enable researchers to better identify where the meteorites originate 
from and land.

If you imagine you've got a little triangle of cameras in different positions 
and they can see all the sky, they'll see that fireball from different 
orientations.

You can triangulate exactly where it is in the atmosphere based on those 
observations.

Mr Bland said the project extends far beyond just collecting rocks, as 
meteors offer broader planetary science insights.

The reason we started it is meteorites are the oldest rocks that we have, 
Mr Bland explained.

They formed in the first few million years after the solar system itself, 
and so they can tell us things about how planets like the earth formed 
from dust and gas, and there's a whole load of questions that are still 
unanswered about that.

He said around ten sizable rocks per million square kilometres land in 
Australia each year, so in Western Australian that's around 20 rocks falling 
annually that are more than a kilogram in size.

The rocks that fall to earth, some are stony, a lot like terrestrial 
rocks or basalt. A large number have little chunks of metal inside of 
them, and a few have solid chunks of iron, nickel and metal.

He's hoping the new camera system enables researchers to collect two times 
as many fallen asteroids, and consequently uncover more information about 
these intergalactic rocks.

It's always a beautiful thing when you see a fireball come through the 
atmosphere and you're lying out there in the desert- you see one of these 
things and it just blows you away.

But the science, knowing that came from out beyond the orbit of Pluto 
and hit the top of the atmosphere at 60km a second and formed 4.5 billion 
years ago, that adds to that wonder and I love that.

Mr Bland told ABC News a smart phone app is also being used to augment 
the camera network program. He said the university wants to engage any 
people interested in astronomy to use the Fireballs in the Sky app so 
they can record their own meteor experience and share the data.

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[meteorite-list] AD - Awesome assortment of meteorites for sale - must sell asap

2013-11-12 Thread Greg Catterton




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[meteorite-list] Any skeletons in your cupboard?

2013-11-12 Thread Nigel Julie Mann

Hi List

I am looking to buy (or trade):

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[meteorite-list] Research Shows Organic Molecules Can Survive Meteorite Impact

2013-11-12 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.nhm.ac.uk/about-us/news/2013/november/life-may-have-arrived-from-space125606.html

Life may have arrived from space
Natural History Museum (United Kingdom)
11 November 2013

[Image]
False-coloured scanning electron microscope image showing organic material 
in meteorite debris.

New research shows that organic molecules, on which life is based, can 
survive the impact from a meteorite.

Reporting in the journal Nature Geoscience, mineralogist Dr Kieran Howard 
and his team have discovered intact organic molecules inside debris from 
a meteorite impact. Dr Howard was a researcher at the Museum when he performed 
the analyses.

This is the first evidence that any organic material, either inside a 
meteorite or already on Earth, can survive the impact of a meteorite striking 
the planet at high speed.

The discovery lends weight to the idea of panspermia – the suggestion 
that life on our planet was seeded by material falling from space.  

The debris studied by the team was thrown up by a meteorite impact in 
Western Tasmania, Australia, leaving a 1.2km diameter crater known as 
Darwin Crater.

The meteorite crash-landed on Earth approximately 800,000 years ago at 
a speed of up to 18kms per second, and with a possible temperature on 
impact of more than 1,700°C.

It was thought that any organic material would be vaporised by the extreme 
temperature and pressure of a collision. But the researchers found organic 
matter within the impact debris from local swamps and rainforests present 
when the meteorite struck.

Extra-terrestrial life

We were surprised by our discovery, said Dr Howard. We have long assumed 
any organic molecules, such as amino acids would not survive a meteorite 
impact. The evidence we have now supports an old hypothesis that impacts 
might have delivered the building blocks of life to the early Earth.

It has been experimentally proven that some bacteria can survive the heat 
and speed of entering our atmosphere, but whether anything could survive 
an actual impact was uncertain.

Tiny time capsules

The evidence for the new research comes from impact glasses, smooth 
spheres that form when the energy of a meteorite impact melts the rock 
it strikes and sends it hurtling through the air. These droplets are flung 
huge distances, solidifying as they travel.

The impact glasses used in the study were strewn up to 20km from the impact 
site at Darwin Crater.

Inside the glasses the team found tiny inclusions of organic material, 
sometimes less than 0.001mm in diameter. They were able to analyse this 
material and confidently link it to plants that existed in the nearby 
swamps and rainforests of the time.

Life on Mars?

Organic material usually degrades over time, but inside the impact glasses 
it was perfectly preserved for nearly one million years.

Impact glasses act as tiny time capsules, preserving a record of the local 
environment at the time of the meteorite strike. This adds new dimensions 
to the search for evidence of life on Mars.

Since material ejected from Earth could reach Mars in as little as 30,000 
years, organic material originating in Earth impact glasses could be found 
on the surface of the red planet.

Mars' own impact glasses could also have preserved material from a time 
when we know the planet was much wetter and warmer, and may have been 
able to support life.

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[meteorite-list] AD: Spectacular Impactites for Sale on eBay

2013-11-12 Thread Brandon
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[meteorite-list] Giant Moon-Forming Impact On Early Earth May Have Spawned Magma Ocean

2013-11-12 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.space.com/23514-moon-crash-earth-magma-ocean.html

Giant Moon-Forming Impact On Early Earth May Have Spawned Magma Ocean
by Katia Moskvitch
space.com
November 8, 2013

LONDON - Billions of years ago, the Earth's atmosphere was opaque and 
the planet's surface was a vast magma ocean devoid of life.

This scenario, says Stanford University professor of geophysics Norman 
Sleep, was what the early Earth looked like just after a cataclysmic impact 
by a planet-size object that smashed into the infant Earth 4.5 billion 
years ago and formed the moon. The moon, once fully formed, which would 
have appeared much larger in the sky at the time, since it was closer 
to Earth

Hundreds of millions of years later, he added, the first forms of life 
appeared, possibly having hitched a ride on a rock from Mars. The scenario 
is one presented by Sleep at a recent Royal Society conference here called 
Origin of the Moon. A paper detailing Sleep's study was submitted to the 
symposium volume.

Although many elements of the theory have been around for some time, Sleep's 
synthesis is like putting together a jigsaw puzzle with some pieces already 
known and some that are speculative and have new aspects, said Dave Stevenson, 
a Caltech professor of planetary science who was not involved with Sleep's 
study.

One of these new aspects is how Earth cooled down to the temperatures 
necessary for life to evolve, following the - presumed - giant impact 
that formed the moon.

The processes Sleep discussed took place in the period called Hadean, 
about 4 billion to 4.5 billion years ago - before the first organisms 
came into being, and well before more complex life-forms, including dinosaurs, 
started roaming the Earth.

Back then, the Earth was nothing like the blue Earth we know today.

Scorching world

Instead, the entire Earth was hot and molten all the way to its inner 
core, a mixture of molten rock and liquid.

No life would have been able to survive these brutally high temperatures, 
which reached 2,000degrees Celsius (more than 3,600 degrees Fahrenheit). 
Liquid water had no chance to form.

The Earth's atmosphere at this time was also much heavier. Its mass was 
similar to that of today's oceans, and it pushed down on Earth's surface 
with a pressure of hundreds of bars. (For comparison, the average pressure 
at the Earth's surface today is 1 bar).  It was also opaque - you would 
not have been able to see much, just clouds covering everything, Stevenson 
said.

Beneath the clouds, a magma ocean swayed, with partially molten rock pushed 
around by tides, Sleep thinks.

These tides were due to the mutual attraction of the Earth and the moon, 
and were much stronger than those in today's watery oceans, as the moon 
was sitting much, much closer to the Earth back then.

The tides constantly stirred the ocean, causing the mantle to lose heat, 
similar to stirring and blowing on a bowl of soup. But once released from 
the Earth's depths, the heat was trapped at the surface, held back by 
the thick, opaque primordial atmosphere.

The heat could only escape the planet (and cool it down) at so-called 
cloud-top temperature levels - where it would be as cold as on a modern 
high mountain summit. But for the first 10 million years, the temperatures 
were much, much higher, Sleep said.

The energy loss caused by the mutual attraction of the Earth and the moon 
was also making the moon gradually pull away. This made the tides progressively 
weaker, so the molten rock was being stirred less and less, and the Earth's 
mantle began to solidify in stages.

While at the top of the Earth there was still partially molten slurry 
with a bit of liquid left, in the middle there was a mushy layer, but 
the deep mantle was becoming solid,” Sleep said. Lava was probably still 
coming up and erupting and freezing at the top, and then falling back 
in large, kilometer-size pieces that were sinking into the Earth.

Slowly, the internal heat flow ceased to dominate the climate, and the 
temperatures at the surface began to drop, with the heat being able to 
escape the atmosphere at last.

Life from Mars?

The sweltering temperatures and trapped heat were not the only obstacles 
for life to appear, Sleep said.

Another issue was overabundance of carbon dioxide in the primordial atmosphere. 
Carbon dioxide doesn't dissolve in molten rock, so it was bound to bubble 
up from the magma ocean, creating a so-called runaway greenhouse effect, 
Sleep said.

For the Earth to become habitable, most of this carbon dioxide had to 
vanish.

Sleep said this happened when the tectonic plates began to move in the 
late Hadean, some 4.4 billion years ago. With the plates moving, the carbon 
dioxide began to enter the mantle in a process called subduction, when 
one tectonic plate moves under another and sinks into the mantle.

Liquid water oceans had already begun to condense around that time, and 
once the Earth cooled sufficiently and most of the 

[meteorite-list] Cosmic Rays Zap a Planet's Chances for Life

2013-11-12 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.astrobio.net/exclusive/5792/cosmic-rays-zap-a-planets-chances-for-life

Cosmic Rays Zap a Planet's Chances for Life
Charles Choi
Astrobiology Magazine
November 11, 2013

Mysterious cosmic rays constantly bombard Earth from outer space. Now 
scientists find these energetic particles could limit where life as we 
know it might exist on alien planets. 

Cosmic rays continue to baffle scientists more than a century after they 
were first discovered. These charged subatomic particles zip through space 
at nearly the speed of light, a few strangely with energies up to 100 
million times beyond what is possible from the most powerful particle 
accelerator on Earth. Cosmic rays are believed to be atomic nuclei, with 
the vast majority being protons, or hydrogen nuclei. 

When cosmic rays hit Earth's atmosphere, they generate a shower of other 
particles, including muons, which are essentially much heavier versions 
of their cousin the electron. Some of these particles reach Earth's surface, 
potentially damaging life on land and in the oceans - muons can even penetrate 
hundreds of feet below a planet's surface. 

Scientists investigated how cosmic rays might influence the habitability 
of distant alien worlds. The hundreds of exoplanets astronomers have discovered 
in the past two decades using ground and space telescopes have raised 
the possibility that some might be home to extraterrestrial life. Interest 
is especially focused on worlds in so-called habitable or Goldilocks zones, 
which receive enough heat to possess surfaces that can keep water liquid 
rather than freeze - on Earth, there is life virtually wherever there 
is liquid water. 
 
The investigators reasoned the level of radiation a planet receives helps 
control its habitability. While a planet might see much fewer galactic 
cosmic rays compared to the radiation from its star, the average energy 
of cosmic rays is far higher than photons and protons from the star, making 
them critical to focus on. 

If the radiation dose is too high, then life as we know it cannot exist, 
said study author Dimitra Atri, a physicist at the Blue Marble Space Institute 
of Science, a nonprofit institute with a network of scientists across 
the world. 

The researchers concentrated on two factors that might influence the cosmic 
ray dose a planet gets - the strength of its magnetic field, and the depth 
of its atmosphere. 

I started thinking about this problem when I was thinking about Mars 
and Earth, which are next-door neighbors, and how we have a thriving biosphere 
here on Earth, while it's safe to say Mars does not have a thriving biosphere 
on its surface. Why is that so? Atri said. The main factor is that Mars 
has a high level of radiation - the atmosphere on Mars is almost negligible, 
very, very small compared to Earth's, and it has no planetary magnetic 
field, so it has no shielding from the cosmic rays found everywhere in 
the galaxy. So I wondered what intermediate scenarios might be like, lying 
between these two extremes. 

The investigators simulated planets ranging from ones with no magnetic 
field to ones as strong as Earth's, and worlds with atmospheres ranging 
from as thick as Earth's to just a tenth as thick. 

We know the magnetic field around Earth protects us from these harmful 
cosmic rays, and we thought magnetic fields were going to be the main 
factor that controls the radiation dose to the surface, Atri said. 

Unexpectedly, we found the thickness of a planet's atmosphere is a much 
more important factor in determining a planet's radiation dose, Atri 
told Astrobiology Magazine. If you took the Earth and you completely 
removed the magnetic field, the radiation dose rate will increase by two, 
which is a big increase, but it would still have very small effects, and 
would not have any effects on us. However, if you keep the magnetic field 
and decreased the atmosphere so it is a tenth as thick, the radiation 
dose will increase by more than two orders of magnitude. 

Planets around red dwarf stars are often thought of as prime targets for 
the search of alien life, since these relatively dim stars are very common 
in the universe, making up at least 80 percent of the total number of 
stars. Theoretical calculations suggested planets in the habitable zones 
close to red dwarfs are more likely to have weaker magnetic fields, especially 
in the case of so-called super-Earths, large rocky planets up to 10 times 
Earth's mass. Astrobiologists were concerned these weak magnetic fields 
could make them poor candidates for life, but these new findings suggest 
weak magnetic fields are less of a problem than they thought. 

Future research can examine how increasing radiation affects the evolution 
of life, Atri said. Most studies of radiation's effects on life mostly 
expose organisms to very high doses of radiation to see if they get killed 
or not, but I think systematic studies that gradually increase the radiation 
microbes 

[meteorite-list] Curiosity Rover Out of Safe Mode

2013-11-12 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2013-330

Curiosity Out of Safe Mode
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
November 12, 2013

Mars Science Laboratory Mission Status Report 

NASA's Mars Science Laboratory Project received confirmation from Mars 
Sunday (Nov. 10) that the Curiosity rover has successfully transitioned 
back into nominal surface operations mode. Curiosity had been in safe 
mode since Nov. 7, when an unexpected software reboot (also known as a 
warm reset) occurred during a communications pass with the Mars Reconnaissance 
Orbiter. Mission science planning will resume tomorrow, and Curiosity 
science operations will recommence on Thursday. 

We returned to normal engineering operations, said Rajeev Joshi, a software 
and systems engineer for the Curiosity mission at NASA's Jet Propulsion 
Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. We are well into planning the next several 
days of surface operations and expect to resume our drive to Mount Sharp 
this week. 

After analyzing the data returned by the spacecraft on Thursday evening, 
Nov. 7 (Pacific Time), the Curiosity operations team was able to determine 
the root cause. An error in existing onboard software resulted in an error 
in a catalog file. This caused an unexpected reset when the catalog was 
processed by a new version of flight software which had been installed 
on Thursday. The team was able to replicate the problem on ground testbeds 
the following day. Commands recovering the spacecraft were uplinked to 
the spacecraft early Sunday morning. 

NASA's Mars Science Laboratory Project is using Curiosity to assess whether 
areas inside Gale Crater ever offered a habitable environment for microbes. 
JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, 
manages the project for NASA's Science Mission Directorate in Washington. 

More information about Curiosity is online at http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/msl 
, http://www.nasa.gov/msl and http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/ . You can 
follow the mission on Facebook at: http://www.facebook.com/marscuriosity 
and on Twitter at: http://www.twitter.com/marscuriosity .

DC Agle 818-393-9011
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
a...@jpl.nasa.gov 

2013-330

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[meteorite-list] NASA Continues Workshop to Discuss Asteroid Initiative Ideas

2013-11-12 Thread Ron Baalke


November 12, 2013

Sarah Ramsey/Rachel Kraft
Headquarters, Washington
202-358-1694/202-358-5227
sarah.ram...@nasa.gov / rachel.h.kr...@nasa.gov 
 
MEDIA ADVISORY M13-178
 
NASA Continues Workshop to Discuss Asteroid Initiative Ideas

NASA has rescheduled its Asteroid Synthesis Workshop, a public forum to  
examine and synthesize 96 of the ideas submitted to a Request for Information  
(RFI) about the agency's asteroid initiative. The workshop will be held Nov.  
20 - 22 at the Lunar and Planetary Institute in Houston, and is a  
continuation of the workshop originally scheduled for Sept. 30 - Oct. 2,  
which was ended early because of the government shutdown.

The workshop will feature discussions by experts from NASA, the agency's  
international partners, private industry and the public. Topics include how  
best to identify, capture and relocate a near-Earth asteroid for closer  
study, how to respond to asteroid threats, as well as partnership,  
crowdsourcing and citizen science ideas. Workshop results will be considered  
for future planning as NASA refines the details of its mission.

NASA's fiscal year 2014 budget proposes an asteroid initiative that includes  
a strategy to leverage human and robotic activities for a first-ever human  
mission to an asteroid, while also accelerating efforts to improve detection  
and characterization of asteroids. The work aligns the agency's ongoing  
efforts in science, new technology development and human exploration.

NASA received more than 400 ideas in response to the June RFI. The ideas were  
submitted by industry, universities, international organizations, and for the  
first time, individual members of the public. NASA's selection process  
involved agency scientists, engineers and mission planners who are  
formulating details of the asteroid initiative.

Each session will be webcast on NASA's UStream channel, and virtual  
participation is encouraged. Because of limited capacity, in person  
attendance is limited to invited, registered presenters. Selected sessions  
also will be broadcast on NASA Television. Virtual audience members can ask  
questions through the UStream chat function and via Twitter with  
session-specific hashtags. Complete schedule information, live webcasts,  
hashtags, and other details on how to participate virtually can be found at:

http://www.nasa.gov/asteroidworkshop 

Media interested in attending the workshop in person should contact Rachel  
Kraft at rachel.h.kr...@nasa.gov or Sarah Ramsey at sarah.ram...@nasa.gov . 

For NASA TV streaming video, downlink and scheduling information, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/nasatv 

For more information on NASA's asteroid initiative, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/asteroidinitiative 

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[meteorite-list] [AD] - Casimiro de Abreu Brazil iron

2013-11-12 Thread André Moutinho
Hello all!

I have traded another very rare Brazilian iron named CASIMIRO DE ABREU
and there will be only one slice available for sale:

CASIMIRO DE ABREU - 3.322g
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331064130297


Other rarities still available on ebay:

PARANAIBA – rare fall
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331064906568

SERRA DE MAGÉ - achondrite hammer fall - ultra rare - slice with crust
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331062730094

SANTA CATHARINA - beautiful small iron slice (not shale!)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331064134027

ITAPICURU-MIRIM - historic fall
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331062727411

PARA DE MINAS - super rare! - beautiful 2.89g slice (last slice!)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331062731273

CAMPINORTE - new Brazilian iron (shale fragment)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331044838116

NOVA PETROPOLIS - Beautiful 15.8g slice
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331061221035



Best!
Andre Moutinho
IMCA 2731
http://www.meteorito.com.br
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[meteorite-list] AD: Spectacular Impactites for Sale on eBay

2013-11-12 Thread Brandon
 My apologies for the double post but I was told by several people that the 
link that I provided was not working properly so this should.


Thanks,
Brandon D,



Hello Fellow Listoids,


I have some new spectacular impactites for sale on eBay very much worth
checking out even if not looking to buy. Most specimens were listed
very low and for material you just never see, this is a great
opportunity to add some rare pieces to your collection.

Lockne, Kentland, Flynn Creek, Glover Bluff, Sudbury, Wanapitei,
Decaturville, Crooked Creek, and more.

Check out my listings on eBay by following this link-


http://miniurl.com/e9Kz

Thank you for your consideration!


Brandon D.

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[meteorite-list] AD: Ensisheim, Sutter's Mill, Sylacauga more rare/historic meteorites ending on ebay SOON!

2013-11-12 Thread Shawn Alan
Hello Listers 

Thank you for taking a look at my post of meteorites 
I have for sale on eBay. Here is your chance to own some rare and historic 
meteorites. Please take a look and if you have any questions or OFFERS 
 /or TRADES, please email me and I'll get back with you. Lastly, if you are 
looking for bigger/smaller meteorites, let me know too.  A meteorite is a 
meteorite, but a meteorite with history  legacy, will always add aura 
to your meteorite collection and value.


ebay store
http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html


Featured Auctions

 
ALMAHATA SITTA meteorite 2008TC3 1st meteorite seen from space-SUPER RARE!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261319318360?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
 
SUTTER’S MILL Meteorite - CA USA C meteorite class April 22, 2012 SUPER RARE
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251375321192?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
 
COLLESCIPOLI rare Italy 49mg meteorite FALL fragment hard to find historic fall!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251375322791?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
 
TROUP meteorite-3rd fall-Fell in 1917 in TEXAS USA-Almost hit a BOY TKW 1020g
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261324955091?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
 
COLD BOKKEVELD meteorite fall 1838 - 1st CM2 meteorite Fall - Very Rare fall!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261328492587?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
 
SYLACAUGA 35mg meteorite, Mrs. Hodges Meteorite Strike - Extremely Rare!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261328508701?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
 
VALERA Cow killing HAMMER STONE meteorite - rare fall with documentation!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251374496061?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
 
KESEN historic meteorite - Fell 1850, Japan. Worshiped as an idol, VERY RARE!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251378681053?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
 

Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633 
ebay store
http://meteoritefalls.com/http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-11-12 Thread valparint
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Norton County

Contributed by: Rob Wesel

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp
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