[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: DAG 400 Contributed by: Ian Macleod http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Taza, HED and few items
Hello List: I'm offering some stones, you can see the pictures via this link: https://www.flickr.com/photos/36221954@N07/ Who's interested contact me of the list best regards Ahmad __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Link of the Week #4 : Celebrated Moon Rocks
Meteorite Link of the Week #4 (http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/Dec09/Apollo-lunar-samples.html) - Celebrated Moon Rocks. This week's link is an interesting and informative article published by the University of Hawaii Department of Geophysics and Planetology. This article details the various and numerous samples brought back from the Moon by the Apollo astronauts. The articles contains photos and links to source material.The article is not very long and is approachable by the layman. You can also spend a lot of time clicking the associated links to learn more about the curation and study of the Apollo samples. Link - http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/Dec09/Apollo-lunar-samples.html Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Preliminary triangulation solution for White Sands area meteor
Hi All, Here's a link to a good astrophoto of the fireball as seen from the Tempe area (Popago Park): http://www.abc15.com/news/state/meteor-sighting-reported-in-arizona I'm trying to determine the exact location the picture was taken from. Perhaps one of our many Arizona list members can identify the hills in the foreground. The image is centered on the eastern horizon; the bright object just right of center and right of the meteor is an airplane, but to the upper right of the plane are Spica and Mars. Arcturus, Muphrid and Izar are all easily visible to the upper left of the meteor. The terminus of the meteor is a tad south of due east -- around azimuth 94. (A more precise azimuth could be determined with a full plate solution for the many stars in the image.) The location of the photographer is pretty close to ideal for the purposes of triangulation with the NMSU video, since their viewpoints are at close to right angles to one another. The intersection of the NMSU terminal vector and the Popago Park astrophoto endpoint is over the Organ Mountains northwest of White Sands Space Harbor. --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Pallasites, Irons and old Canyon Diablos
Hi List I bought an interesting collection while I was in Tucson. Most of the pieces were purchased from mineral dealers in the 70-s to 90s or so. Of course they are mostly common localities but there are a couple of interesting ones as well. https://picasaweb.google.com/109538410126952617536/April142014?authuser=0authkey=Gv1sRgCPjcpPruy4D1cgfeat=directlink Odessa 3 piece with an old Bob Haag label $25.00 Lake Murray Shale 135 g Has old label with #396 attached to it. $25.00 Canyon Diablo Shale 2 packages Package 1 = 3.1 and 0.3 g fragments David Shannon Minerals label. Package 2 = 9.0 g cut fragment from The Thurstons Boylston MA plus another unmarked label dated Nov 1966. $10.00 Canyon Diablo Iron 15.4 g no label $5.00 Canyon Diablo Iron 39.1 g unmarked label but mentions Wards Natural Sciences. Numbered label almost certainly matches numbered specimen. It is very faint. $20.00 Canyon Diablo Iron 51.5 g David Shannon Minerals label. $25.00 Canyon Diablo Iron 36.0 g David Shannon Minerals label. Very rusty, needs to be cleaned up and retched. $15.00 Hugoton Stone H5 Kansas. 5.2 g + fragments Topaz-Mineral Exploration label. $25.00 Gibeon Iron 68.3 g Planet Earth Label. $70.00 Dalgety Downs Stone L4 Australia. 31.9 g Donald Cook, Rochester NY and William Pinch Rochester NY $160.00 Springer Stone H5 93.0 g OK No marked labels but from the CE Hannum estate. He purchased the main mass from the original finder. $279.00 Gove Relict Iron. Classified but not officially approved. 2.85 gram fragment (Make an offer) Imilac 8.61 grams. Cool old pill Box container from famous London Mineral dealer Gregory, Bottley and Co. Not for sale just wanted to let everyone have a look. Label dates from between 1931 and 1981. I'm guessing from closer to 1931 than 1981. Other pieces Gibeon Iron 240.9 g $225.00 Gao-Guenie Stone H5 212.7 g Fell 1960 Burkina Faso $319.00 Miles Iron IIE Australia 20.2 g $252.00 Quijingue Stony-Iron Pallasite 6.56 g $197.00 Esquel Stony-Iron Pallasite 4.60 g 184.00 https://picasaweb.google.com/109538410126952617536/April142014?authuser=0authkey=Gv1sRgCPjcpPruy4D1cgfeat=directlink Mike Mike Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 USA 303-946-1495 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Preliminary triangulation solution for White Sands area meteor
Hello! You may have already done this, but the ABC 15 news desk may share Matt Larsen's phone number. He could help give you a good line of flight. News desk #⃣1-602-685-6297 Good Luck! Dennis Oh, Matt is the one who took picture.. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 15, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Matson, Rob D. robert.d.mat...@leidos.com wrote: Hi All, Here's a link to a good astrophoto of the fireball as seen from the Tempe area (Popago Park): http://www.abc15.com/news/state/meteor-sighting-reported-in-arizona I'm trying to determine the exact location the picture was taken from. Perhaps one of our many Arizona list members can identify the hills in the foreground. The image is centered on the eastern horizon; the bright object just right of center and right of the meteor is an airplane, but to the upper right of the plane are Spica and Mars. Arcturus, Muphrid and Izar are all easily visible to the upper left of the meteor. The terminus of the meteor is a tad south of due east -- around azimuth 94. (A more precise azimuth could be determined with a full plate solution for the many stars in the image.) The location of the photographer is pretty close to ideal for the purposes of triangulation with the NMSU video, since their viewpoints are at close to right angles to one another. The intersection of the NMSU terminal vector and the Popago Park astrophoto endpoint is over the Organ Mountains northwest of White Sands Space Harbor. --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Harrisonville L6 Chondrite Meteorite 15.7g listed on eBay
I have a Harrisonville Meteorite listed for sale on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=161276946722 If you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask. -Brien Cook, IMCA #8757 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New ebay listings with fake Moon/ Mars displays
Hello All, For those lucky enough to be able to see it, that Lunar eclipse last night was fantastic, plus the added bonus of a very bright Mars nearby made even more visible by the darkened sky...WOW! I have an alert on a couple new ebay listings. Some steelhorse1994 fake displays from 2011-2012 are being resold by someone. Unfortunately, he sold well over a 1000 of these and they will keep cropping up. It's too bad ebay did not have the spine to retroactively alert everyone he sold to. I dropped the seller a note but heard nothing back and the listings are still active at the time of this writing. So, I also reported it to ebay. Here are the links to the listings: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOON-ROCK-Lunar-Meteorite-NWA-4881-/261452325481?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3cdfc5e269 http://www.ebay.com/itm/MARS-ROCK-A-Pieace-of-The-Mars-Meteorite-NWA-4925-/261452342487?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3cdfc624d7 Best regards, Daniel Daniel Noyes Genuine Moon Mars Meteorite Rocks i...@moonmarsrocks.com www.moonmarsrocks.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lunar eclipse recap
Hi Daniel, The show was great from southern California. Even more impressive to me than the proximity of Mars was how close Spica was to the Moon -- less than 2 degrees to the right. So close, in fact, that it was hard to see Spica until the eclipse was well underway. Once the eclipse was total, I could also see the dim, 5.2-magnitude star HIP 66098 (76 Virginis) only 0.5 degrees from the upper limb of the Moon. --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of i...@moonmarsrocks.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 10:06 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New ebay listings with fake Moon/ Mars displays Hello All, For those lucky enough to be able to see it, that Lunar eclipse last night was fantastic, plus the added bonus of a very bright Mars nearby made even more visible by the darkened sky...WOW! I have an alert on a couple new ebay listings. Some steelhorse1994 fake displays from 2011-2012 are being resold by someone. Unfortunately, he sold well over a 1000 of these and they will keep cropping up. It's too bad ebay did not have the spine to retroactively alert everyone he sold to. I dropped the seller a note but heard nothing back and the listings are still active at the time of this writing. So, I also reported it to ebay. Here are the links to the listings: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOON-ROCK-Lunar-Meteorite-NWA-4881-/261452325481?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3cdfc5e269 http://www.ebay.com/itm/MARS-ROCK-A-Pieace-of-The-Mars-Meteorite-NWA-4925-/261452342487?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3cdfc624d7 Best regards, Daniel Daniel Noyes Genuine Moon Mars Meteorite Rocks i...@moonmarsrocks.com www.moonmarsrocks.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] List being moderated
Hi List; While I really enjoyed looking at Sonny's images (great photography), I decided to place the list in moderation mode in order to prevent a BLM/Government thread from starting (and from the posts I've held so far this seems to have been a good idea). Apologies to the folks who posted but just trying to prevent a flame war. Regards, Art __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Preliminary triangulation solution for White Sands area meteor
Thanks Rob and Dennis, Maybe one of our valued list members will call and get coordinates. If I wasn't traveling to parts unknown for the next few days I'd do it myself. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello! You may have already done this, but the ABC 15 news desk may share Matt Larsen's phone number. He could help give you a good line of flight. News desk #⃣1-602-685-6297 Good Luck! Dennis Oh, Matt is the one who took picture.. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 15, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Matson, Rob D. robert.d.mat...@leidos.com wrote: Hi All, Here's a link to a good astrophoto of the fireball as seen from the Tempe area (Popago Park): http://www.abc15.com/news/state/meteor-sighting-reported-in-arizona I'm trying to determine the exact location the picture was taken from. Perhaps one of our many Arizona list members can identify the hills in the foreground. The image is centered on the eastern horizon; the bright object just right of center and right of the meteor is an airplane, but to the upper right of the plane are Spica and Mars. Arcturus, Muphrid and Izar are all easily visible to the upper left of the meteor. The terminus of the meteor is a tad south of due east -- around azimuth 94. (A more precise azimuth could be determined with a full plate solution for the many stars in the image.) The location of the photographer is pretty close to ideal for the purposes of triangulation with the NMSU video, since their viewpoints are at close to right angles to one another. The intersection of the NMSU terminal vector and the Popago Park astrophoto endpoint is over the Organ Mountains northwest of White Sands Space Harbor. --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar eclipse recap
Hi Rob, Yes, I was marveling at the sudden appearance of those close proximity stars. Here west of Vegas it was a nice night and the skies were clear with a great view. Definitely was worth burning the midnight oil for...! Best regards, Daniel Daniel Noyes Genuine Moon Mars Meteorite Rocks i...@moonmarsrocks.com www.moonmarsrocks.com Original Message Subject: Lunar eclipse recap From: Matson, Rob D. robert.d.mat...@leidos.com Date: Tue, April 15, 2014 10:54 am To: i...@moonmarsrocks.com i...@moonmarsrocks.com, Meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hi Daniel, The show was great from southern California. Even more impressive to me than the proximity of Mars was how close Spica was to the Moon -- less than 2 degrees to the right. So close, in fact, that it was hard to see Spica until the eclipse was well underway. Once the eclipse was total, I could also see the dim, 5.2-magnitude star HIP 66098 (76 Virginis) only 0.5 degrees from the upper limb of the Moon. --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of i...@moonmarsrocks.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 10:06 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New ebay listings with fake Moon/ Mars displays Hello All, For those lucky enough to be able to see it, that Lunar eclipse last night was fantastic, plus the added bonus of a very bright Mars nearby made even more visible by the darkened sky...WOW! I have an alert on a couple new ebay listings. Some steelhorse1994 fake displays from 2011-2012 are being resold by someone. Unfortunately, he sold well over a 1000 of these and they will keep cropping up. It's too bad ebay did not have the spine to retroactively alert everyone he sold to. I dropped the seller a note but heard nothing back and the listings are still active at the time of this writing. So, I also reported it to ebay. Here are the links to the listings: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOON-ROCK-Lunar-Meteorite-NWA-4881-/261452325481?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3cdfc5e269 http://www.ebay.com/itm/MARS-ROCK-A-Pieace-of-The-Mars-Meteorite-NWA-4925-/261452342487?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3cdfc624d7 Best regards, Daniel Daniel Noyes Genuine Moon Mars Meteorite Rocks i...@moonmarsrocks.com www.moonmarsrocks.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Preliminary triangulation solution for White Sands area meteor
Hi Ruben, At this point it may not be that critical; Bill Cooke and I have constrained the trajectory enough that if anything survived it unfortunately fell in the northern San Andreas Mountains, well within the WSMR boundaries. (Earlier, I mistakenly called these mountains the Organ Mountains, but I forgot those are on the south side of highway 70. You'd think I would have remembered that, given that I hiked in the Organ Mountains back when I was working on the base.) --Rob -Original Message- From: Ruben Garcia [mailto:rubengarcia85...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 12:12 PM To: Dennis Miller Cc: Matson, Rob D.; Meteorite list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Preliminary triangulation solution for White Sands area meteor Thanks Rob and Dennis, Maybe one of our valued list members will call and get coordinates. If I wasn't traveling to parts unknown for the next few days I'd do it myself. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello! You may have already done this, but the ABC 15 news desk may share Matt Larsen's phone number. He could help give you a good line of flight. News desk #⃣1-602-685-6297 Good Luck! Dennis Oh, Matt is the one who took picture.. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 15, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Matson, Rob D. robert.d.mat...@leidos.com wrote: Hi All, Here's a link to a good astrophoto of the fireball as seen from the Tempe area (Popago Park): http://www.abc15.com/news/state/meteor-sighting-reported-in-arizona I'm trying to determine the exact location the picture was taken from. Perhaps one of our many Arizona list members can identify the hills in the foreground. The image is centered on the eastern horizon; the bright object just right of center and right of the meteor is an airplane, but to the upper right of the plane are Spica and Mars. Arcturus, Muphrid and Izar are all easily visible to the upper left of the meteor. The terminus of the meteor is a tad south of due east -- around azimuth 94. (A more precise azimuth could be determined with a full plate solution for the many stars in the image.) The location of the photographer is pretty close to ideal for the purposes of triangulation with the NMSU video, since their viewpoints are at close to right angles to one another. The intersection of the NMSU terminal vector and the Popago Park astrophoto endpoint is over the Organ Mountains northwest of White Sands Space Harbor. --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Kaba CV3, Alta'ameem amphoterite Iraq, Mocs, Mezo_madaras, HOBA IVB and thin sections in E-Bay
Dear List Members! Some rarites has started in E-Bay 5 days auction. Kaba CV3 historic Hungary fallen in 1857, ultra rare: http://www.ebay.com/itm/221416825014?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984 ..m1555.l2649 Alta'ameem, Iraq, fallen in 1977, olivine hyperstene chondrite LL5, amphoterite, very rare: http://www.ebay.com/itm/221416835322?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984 ..m1555.l2649 Mocs, 1882, historic hungarian L5-6 meteorite nice slice (35.8 mm): http://www.ebay.com/itm/221416802087?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984 ..m1555.l2649 Mezö-Madaras, 1852, historic hungarian L3.7 meteorite nice slice (48.3 mm): http://www.ebay.com/itm/221416791193?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984 ..m1555.l2649 REDUCED RESERVE PRICE HOBA IVB slices: HOBA IVB polished slice 6.433 gr: http://www.ebay.com/itm/221415209840?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984 ..m1555.l2649 HOBA IVB polished slice 3.923 gr: http://www.ebay.com/itm/221415211415?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984 ..m1555.l2649 Thin Sections: Barringer Meteorit Crater BIG SIZE (45x45 mm) thin section. Sample from the crater rim! http://www.ebay.com/itm/221416875449?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984 ..m1555.l2649 NWA 7998 L5 fresh thin sections (2 pcs) with nice chondrulas: No.:002 http://www.ebay.com/itm/221416841188?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984 ..m1555.l2649 No.:003 http://www.ebay.com/itm/221416856748?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984 ..m1555.l2649 Good luck! Zsolt IMCA#6251 --- A levél vírus, és rosszindulatú kód mentes, mert az avast! Antivirus védelme ellenőrizte azt. http://www.avast.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 2013 Comet Awards Announced by Minor Planet Center
http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/news/2014-08 2013 Comet Awards Announced Release No.: 2014-08 For Release: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 2:30pm Cambridge, MA - The Minor Planet Center, located at the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory (SAO) in Cambridge, Mass., has announced the recipients of the 2013 Edgar Wilson Award for the discovery of comets by amateurs. This is the fifteenth consecutive year that these Awards have been given. Money for the Awards was set aside as part of the will bequeathed by the late businessman Edgar Wilson of Lexington, Kentucky, and administered by the SAO. This year a total of $42,000 will be distributed among the recipients. For most amateur astronomers, the historical naming of the comet for them has more meaning than any award, but the bestowment of the Edgar Wilson Award gives extra prestige and notice to their effort. Amateur comet discoverers usually put in long hours observing, with no financial aid, unlike the professional astronomers who discover most comets nowadays via surveys with large telescopes. Automated CCD searches with large professional telescopes have dominated comet discovery since 1998, so the contributions of amateurs deserve special recognition. There have been numerous comet awards over the centuries, but the Wilson Award is currently the largest publicly known award. The following seven discoverers will receive plaques and a cash award: * Paulo Holvorcem of Porto Seguro, Brazil, and Michael Schwartz of Nogales, Arizona, for their joint discovery of six comets: P/2012 TK8, P/2012 WX32, C/2013 C2, C/2013 D1, P/2013 EW90, and C/2013 G9 * Masuyuki Iwamoto of Tokushima-ken, Japan, for his discovery of comet C/2013 E2 * Artyom Novichonok of Kondopoga, Russia, and Vitali Nevski of Vitebsk, Belarus, for their joint discovery of comet C/2012 S1 (ISON) * Claudine Rinner of Ottmarsheim, France, for her discovery of three comets: P/2011 W2, C/2012 CH17, and P/2013 CE31M * Tomas Vorobjov of Bratislava, Slovak Republic, for his discovery of comet P/2012 T7 This is the third Wilson Award for Holvorcem, and the second for both Schwartz and Novichonok. The sun-grazing comet ISON (C/2012 S1), in particular, made a big splash in the media for its potential to become stunningly bright in early December. Unfortunately, ISON didn't survive its brush past the Sun on November 28th. In years when there are no eligible comet discoverers, the Award is made instead to amateur astronomers judged by the Minor Planet Center to have made important contributions toward observing comets or promoting an interest in the study of comets. Headquartered in Cambridge, Mass., the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics (CfA) is a joint collaboration between the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory and the Harvard College Observatory. CfA scientists, organized into six research divisions, study the origin, evolution and ultimate fate of the universe. For more information, contact: David A. Aguilar Director of Public Affairs Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics 617-495-7462 dagui...@cfa.harvard.edu Christine Pulliam Public Affairs Specialist Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics 617-495-7463 cpull...@cfa.harvard.edu __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lunar eclipse composite
Hi all, I created a composite picture from 8 hours of video from the Sentinel Skycam here in Parker, AZ. It starts at 0300 ut. It's a 'different' way to look at the eclipse! http://pages.suddenlink.net/taenite/lunerE15.png Enjoy! Jim -- Jim Wooddell jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net http://pages.suddenlink.net/chondrule/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ancient Martian Air 'Too Cold and Thin' for Liquid Water
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ancient-martian-air-too-cold-thin-liquid-water-1444741 Ancient Martian Air 'Too Cold and Thin' for Liquid Water By Hannah Osborne International Business Times April 14, 2014 The air on Mars 3.6 billion years ago was too cold and thin for liquid water to form, scientists have said. Nasa's Rover explorers had found evidence that water was present on the Red Planet in its liquid state billions of years ago and there was enough for rivers and lakes to exist. However, research published in the journal Nature Geoscience suggests that water formation on Mars was the result of occasional warm spells According to Nature magazine, researchers are increasingly finding evidence to suggest that Mars was not warm and wet during its early history, which would have required an atmosphere much thicker than modern times. Edwin Kite, a planetary scientist from Princeton University, said it is very unlikely Mars was able to hold a thick atmosphere for more than a few thousand years at a time. He said the size of the planet's craters provide evidence to support their theory. Using images from the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, the team catalogued over 300 craters over 84,000 square kilometres. If Mars had a thicker atmosphere, small objects would have broken up as they passed through, like they do with Earth, rather than surviving intact to create big blast craters. Only 10% of the craters had diameters of 50m or less, with many believed to be the remnants of ancient craters being 21m or smaller. After using a computer model to look at a simulation of incoming objects striking Mars with different atmospheric densities, the researchers found it was probably no more than 150 times its current state. This means it was about a third as thick as it needed to be to host liquid water and consistently keep the surface temperature above freezing. James Head, from Brown University in Rhode Island, said: This is an excellent paper. It bolsters previous studies that suggest early Mars was icy. Kite said the most likely scenario for water on Mars was the red planet being intermittently warm through greenhouse gasses from volcanic activity - enough to thicken the atmosphere for a few millennium: That's plenty enough to get fluid flowing [on Mars], he said. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Preliminary triangulation solution for White Sands area meteor
Hi List, If it fell within the boundaries of White Sands, then it may as well have fallen on the Moon. Nobody will be allowed in to search for it and the government has no interest in it. Maybe some hunter in the far future will find a strewnfield of weathered meteorites where White Sands used to be. Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 4/15/14, Matson, Rob D. robert.d.mat...@leidos.com wrote: Hi Ruben, At this point it may not be that critical; Bill Cooke and I have constrained the trajectory enough that if anything survived it unfortunately fell in the northern San Andreas Mountains, well within the WSMR boundaries. (Earlier, I mistakenly called these mountains the Organ Mountains, but I forgot those are on the south side of highway 70. You'd think I would have remembered that, given that I hiked in the Organ Mountains back when I was working on the base.) --Rob -Original Message- From: Ruben Garcia [mailto:rubengarcia85...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 12:12 PM To: Dennis Miller Cc: Matson, Rob D.; Meteorite list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Preliminary triangulation solution for White Sands area meteor Thanks Rob and Dennis, Maybe one of our valued list members will call and get coordinates. If I wasn't traveling to parts unknown for the next few days I'd do it myself. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello! You may have already done this, but the ABC 15 news desk may share Matt Larsen's phone number. He could help give you a good line of flight. News desk #⃣1-602-685-6297 Good Luck! Dennis Oh, Matt is the one who took picture.. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 15, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Matson, Rob D. robert.d.mat...@leidos.com wrote: Hi All, Here's a link to a good astrophoto of the fireball as seen from the Tempe area (Popago Park): http://www.abc15.com/news/state/meteor-sighting-reported-in-arizona I'm trying to determine the exact location the picture was taken from. Perhaps one of our many Arizona list members can identify the hills in the foreground. The image is centered on the eastern horizon; the bright object just right of center and right of the meteor is an airplane, but to the upper right of the plane are Spica and Mars. Arcturus, Muphrid and Izar are all easily visible to the upper left of the meteor. The terminus of the meteor is a tad south of due east -- around azimuth 94. (A more precise azimuth could be determined with a full plate solution for the many stars in the image.) The location of the photographer is pretty close to ideal for the purposes of triangulation with the NMSU video, since their viewpoints are at close to right angles to one another. The intersection of the NMSU terminal vector and the Popago Park astrophoto endpoint is over the Organ Mountains northwest of White Sands Space Harbor. --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Study Outlines 'Water World' Theory of Life's Origins
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2014-115 New Study Outlines 'Water World' Theory of Life's Origins Jet Propulsion Laboratory April 15, 2014 Life took root more than four billion years ago on our nascent Earth, a wetter and harsher place than now, bathed in sizzling ultraviolet rays. What started out as simple cells ultimately transformed into slime molds, frogs, elephants, humans and the rest of our planet's living kingdoms. How did it all begin? A new study from researchers at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., and the Icy Worlds team at NASA's Astrobiology Institute, based at NASA's Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, Calif., describes how electrical energy naturally produced at the sea floor might have given rise to life. While the scientists had already proposed this hypothesis -- called submarine alkaline hydrothermal emergence of life -- the new report assembles decades of field, laboratory and theoretical research into a grand, unified picture. According to the findings, which also can be thought of as the water world theory, life may have begun inside warm, gentle springs on the sea floor, at a time long ago when Earth's oceans churned across the entire planet. This idea of hydrothermal vents as possible places for life's origins was first proposed in 1980 by other researchers, who found them on the sea floor near Cabo San Lucas, Mexico. Called black smokers, those vents bubble with scalding hot, acidic fluids. In contrast, the vents in the new study -- first hypothesized by scientist Michael Russell of JPL in 1989 -- are gentler, cooler and percolate with alkaline fluids. One such towering complex of these alkaline vents was found serendipitously in the North Atlantic Ocean in 2000, and dubbed the Lost City. Life takes advantage of unbalanced states on the planet, which may have been the case billions of years ago at the alkaline hydrothermal vents, said Russell. Life is the process that resolves these disequilibria. Russell is lead author of the new study, published in the April issue of the journal Astrobiology. Other theories of life's origins describe ponds, or soups, of chemicals, pockmarking Earth's battered, rocky surface. In some of those chemical soup models, lightning or ultraviolet light is thought to have fueled life in the ponds. The water world theory from Russell and his team says that the warm, alkaline hydrothermal vents maintained an unbalanced state with respect to the surrounding ancient, acidic ocean -- one that could have provided so-called free energy to drive the emergence of life. In fact, the vents could have created two chemical imbalances. The first was a proton gradient, where protons -- which are hydrogen ions -- were concentrated more on the outside of the vent's chimneys, also called mineral membranes. The proton gradient could have been tapped for energy -- something our own bodies do all the time in cellular structures called mitochondria. The second imbalance could have involved an electrical gradient between the hydrothermal fluids and the ocean. Billions of years ago, when Earth was young, its oceans were rich with carbon dioxide. When the carbon dioxide from the ocean and fuels from the vent -- hydrogen and methane -- met across the chimney wall, electrons may have been transferred. These reactions could have produced more complex carbon-containing, or organic compounds -- essential ingredients of life as we know it. Like proton gradients, electron transfer processes occur regularly in mitochondria. Within these vents, we have a geological system that already does one aspect of what life does, said Laurie Barge, second author of the study at JPL. Life lives off proton gradients and the transfer of electrons. As is the case with all advanced life forms, enzymes are the key to making chemical reactions happen. In our ancient oceans, minerals may have acted like enzymes, interacting with chemicals swimming around and driving reactions. In the water world theory, two different types of mineral engines might have lined the walls of the chimney structures. These mineral engines may be compared to what's in modern cars, said Russell. They make life 'go' like the car engines by consuming fuel and expelling exhaust. DNA and RNA, on the other hand, are more like the car's computers because they guide processes rather than make them happen. One of the tiny engines is thought to have used a mineral known as green rust, allowing it to take advantage of the proton gradient to produce a phosphate-containing molecule that stores energy. The other engine is thought to have depended on a rare metal called molybdenum. This metal also is at work in our bodies, in a variety of enzymes. It assists with the transfer of two electrons at a time rather than the usual one, which is useful in driving certain key chemical reactions. We call molybdenum the Douglas Adams element,
Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar eclipse recap
We watched up until mid-totality here in southern Utah, taking an occasional peek through my TV Ranger. I always enjoy seeing stars close to the moon, and got a preview of what was there by blocking out the still-bright moon with an overhanging roof beam. But I *really* enjoyed the close proximity of Mars, it's brilliant red tint complementing the coppery colors on Luna's blushed face. Beautiful! Watching the sky darken and fill up with infinite stars is always fun, too. ;^) Linton - Original Message - From: i...@moonmarsrocks.com To: Matson, Rob D. robert.d.mat...@leidos.com; Meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar eclipse recap Hi Rob, Yes, I was marveling at the sudden appearance of those close proximity stars. Here west of Vegas it was a nice night and the skies were clear with a great view. Definitely was worth burning the midnight oil for...! Best regards, Daniel Daniel Noyes Genuine Moon Mars Meteorite Rocks i...@moonmarsrocks.com www.moonmarsrocks.com Original Message Subject: Lunar eclipse recap From: Matson, Rob D. robert.d.mat...@leidos.com Date: Tue, April 15, 2014 10:54 am To: i...@moonmarsrocks.com i...@moonmarsrocks.com, Meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hi Daniel, The show was great from southern California. Even more impressive to me than the proximity of Mars was how close Spica was to the Moon -- less than 2 degrees to the right. So close, in fact, that it was hard to see Spica until the eclipse was well underway. Once the eclipse was total, I could also see the dim, 5.2-magnitude star HIP 66098 (76 Virginis) only 0.5 degrees from the upper limb of the Moon. --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of i...@moonmarsrocks.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 10:06 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New ebay listings with fake Moon/ Mars displays Hello All, For those lucky enough to be able to see it, that Lunar eclipse last night was fantastic, plus the added bonus of a very bright Mars nearby made even more visible by the darkened sky...WOW! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
