[meteorite-list] Extra-terrestrial Hypatia stone rattles solar system status quo

2018-01-10 Thread Sterling K. Webb via Meteorite-list 
Hi, Jeff, Mattias, List,

Diamonds are formed deep
within the Earth's mantle: 
between 100 km and 200 km
below the surface at static
temperatures of 900 - 1300 C. 
Pressures there are between
45 - 60 kilobars.

A meteor impact, even a
relatively small one (Meteor
Crater) can generate 20-25
kilobars in impact pressures. 
A 50% increase in veocity
would boost those impact
temperatures and pressures
to diamond-forming levels.

If it was an iron meteorite
with carbon inclusions...

Little diamonds...

See: Meteor Impact on Solid
Surfaces, by E. J. Opik:
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1958IrAJ5...14O

So, don't just drop the lumps
of coal; throw them down... 
really hard. And it wouldn't
hurt to give them a good
squeeze before you do!

Another good reference on
the effect of impact pressures
and temperatures can be found
here:
http://theconversation.com/meteorite-impact-turns-silica-into-stishovite-in-
a-billionth-of-a-second-48946

Diamonds and craters go together.

Russia's largest diamond mine
IS a crater: "The world's largest
known diamond deposit was
formed by a massive asteroid
impact," they say:

"Diamonds Beneath the Popigai
Crater -- Northern Russia:"
https://geology.com/articles/popigai-crater-diamonds/

Poipigai is the seventh largest
crater on Earth, and the world's
largest known diamond deposit.
It is 100 kilometers wide, with
a rim of deformed rock up to 20
kilometers wide. 

It was formed by the impact of
a massive asteroid of 5 or 6 km. 
The biggest diamonds there are
only 2mm in size, the size of the
carbon flakes they formed from.

Interestingly, the conditions at
the impact point were too severe
to form diamonds! "The diamonds
found today were probably formed
in a thin zone of rock located
about 12 to 13 kilometers out
from the point of impact."


Sterling Webb
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Sale of lumps of coal suspended pending further notice ; -)

Am 10.01.2018 um 11:10 schrieb Jeff Kuyken via Meteorite-list:

Hmmm... diamonds formed from shock with the Earth's
atmosphere or ground? Really? Can't say I'm convinced but happy to be proven
wrong. Although if I'm wrong I'm climbing up a tree and going to start
dropping lumps of coal... ;)

Cheers,

Jeff Kuyken
Meteorites Australia
www.meteorites.com.au
IMCA #3085
www.imca.cc
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Seems strange that it has not been classified or published in the
MetBull which makes me question any of the findings. If I understand
correctly, meteoriticists/researchers cannot publish papers until the
meteorite has been published in the MetBull.

Mendy Ouzillou

On Jan 9, 2018, at 6:28 PM, Tommy via Meteorite-list

  wrote:

Have any of you folks heard about this and if so what are your
thoughts?

Regards!

Tom


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Re: [meteorite-list] Extra-terrestrial Hypatia stone rattles solar system status quo

2018-01-10 Thread Jeff Kuyken via Meteorite-list 








Haha... an oldie but a goodie! ;)
Cheers,
Jeff









On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 3:39 AM +1100, "Mattias Bärmann"  
wrote:











  

  
  







Sale of lumps of coal
  suspended pending further notice ; -)




Am 10.01.2018 um 11:10 schrieb Jeff
  Kuyken via Meteorite-list:



 

  Hmmm... diamonds formed from
shock with the Earth's atmosphere or ground? Really? Can't
say I'm convinced but happy to be proven wrong. Although if
I'm wrong I'm climbing up a tree and going to start dropping
lumps of coal... ;)
  

  
  Cheers,
  

  
  
Jeff Kuyken
Meteorites Australia
www.meteorites.com.au
IMCA #3085
www.imca.cc
  
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To: Tommy , Met-List






Seems strange that it has not been classified or published
in the MetBull which makes me question any of the findings.
If I understand correctly, meteoriticists/researchers cannot
publish papers until the meteorite has been published in the
MetBull.



Mendy Ouzillou



On Jan 9, 2018, at 6:28 PM, Tommy via Meteorite-list
 wrote:



Have any of you folks heard about this and if so what are
your thoughts?



Regards!



Tom





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Re: [meteorite-list] Extra-terrestrial Hypatia stone rattles solar system status quo

2018-01-10 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list 


Sale of lumps of coal suspended pending further notice ; -)


Am 10.01.2018 um 11:10 schrieb Jeff Kuyken via Meteorite-list:
Hmmm... diamonds formed from shock with the Earth's atmosphere or 
ground? Really? Can't say I'm convinced but happy to be proven wrong. 
Although if I'm wrong I'm climbing up a tree and going to start 
dropping lumps of coal... ;)


Cheers,

Jeff Kuyken
Meteorites Australia
www.meteorites.com.au
IMCA #3085
www.imca.cc
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To: Tommy , Met-List 




Seems strange that it has not been classified or published in the 
MetBull which makes me question any of the findings. If I understand 
correctly, meteoriticists/researchers cannot publish papers until the 
meteorite has been published in the MetBull.


Mendy Ouzillou

On Jan 9, 2018, at 6:28 PM, Tommy via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:


Have any of you folks heard about this and if so what are your thoughts?

Regards!

Tom


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[meteorite-list] Cretaceous-Paleogene (and Fossils) Boundary in West Texas

2018-01-10 Thread Paul via Meteorite-list 

Hi,

A couple of interesting theses about the Cretaceous-Paleogene
Boundary in West Texas can be found online. They are:

Cobb, J.D., 2016. Sedimentology of the Cretaceous-Paleogene
Boundary Interval in the Tornillo Group of West Texas
(Master's Thesis) Texas Tech University, Lubbock, Texas.
https://ttu-ir.tdl.org/ttu-ir/handle/2346/68055

Straight, W.H., 1996. Stratigraphy and paleontology of
the Cretaceous-Tertiary boundary, Big Bend National Park,
Texas (Master's Thesis) Texas Tech University,
Lubbock, Texas.
https://ttu-ir.tdl.org/ttu-ir/handle/2346/12928

Yours,

Paul H.



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Re: [meteorite-list] Extra-terrestrial Hypatia stone rattles solar system status quo

2018-01-10 Thread Carl Esparza via Meteorite-list 
Here's more info on it. 
http://www.b14643.de/Sahara/LDG_Hypatia/index.htm
Carl
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 Tommy via Meteorite-list  wrote: 
>    Have any of you folks heard about this and if so what are your thoughts?

Regards!

Tom


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Re: [meteorite-list] Extra-terrestrial Hypatia stone rattles solar system status quo

2018-01-10 Thread Jeff Kuyken via Meteorite-list 






Hmmm... diamonds formed from shock with the Earth's atmosphere 
or ground? Really? Can't say I'm convinced but happy to be proven wrong. 
Although if I'm wrong I'm climbing up a tree and going to start dropping lumps 
of coal... ;)
Cheers,


Jeff KuykenMeteorites Australiawww.meteorites.com.auIMCA 
#3085www.imca.cc
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Extra-terrestrial Hypatia stone rattles solar 
system status quo
To: Tommy , Met-List 


Seems strange that it has not been classified or published in the MetBull which 
makes me question any of the findings. If I understand correctly, 
meteoriticists/researchers cannot publish papers until the meteorite has been 
published in the MetBull.

Mendy Ouzillou

On Jan 9, 2018, at 6:28 PM, Tommy via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:

  Have any of you folks heard about this and if so what are your thoughts?

Regards!

Tom


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Re: [meteorite-list] BLM Public Land

2018-01-10 Thread Mark Bowling via Meteorite-list 
Great news, I was just wondering about this the other day...  Thanks Michael.
Happy hunting Larry!!  Hope you find a whopper!
Mark

  From: Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list 

 To: metlist  
 Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 3:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM Public Land
   
Instruction Memorandum No. 2012-182
Expires:  09/30/2013

It no longer is applicable, nor was it ever truly.  I got further than
anyone in attempting to procure one of their so-called "permits"; they
were never intended to be issued to anyone, nor is that memo a law.
As Jim correctly points out, the law is silent on the meteorite front.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> The law was updated on September 10, 2012.  They felt the law need to be
> updated in order to protect meteorites after seeing all of TV shows on how
> valuable they were. All these laws have a genesis to the Antiquities Act of
> 1906 which has been heavily abused by politicians including massive land
> grabs.
>
> Here is a link directly to the BLM updates which directly relates to
> meteorites:
>
> https://www.blm.gov/policy/im-2012-182-0
>
> The BLM will provide you with PDF files if you want to research in depth.
>
>
>
> On 1/9/2018 8:05 AM, Jim Wooddell wrote:
>>
>> What date are you referring to in regards to  43 CFR 8365.1-5???
>>
>> GPO has the 2001 version and there is not one mention of meteorites nor
>> any of the wording below.
>> Can you reference a link to the CFR in question?
>>
>> My Ref:
>>
>> https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2001-title43-vol2/pdf/CFR-2001-title43-vol2-sec8365-1-5.pdf
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> Sent from Mail  for
>> Windows 10
>>
>> *From: *Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
>> 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 9, 2018 8:41 AM
>> *To: *metlist 
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [meteorite-list] BLM Public Land
>>
>> 43 CFR 8365.1-5
>>
>> Collection of meteorites is limited to certain public lands. Public
>>
>> lands closed to casual collection include: developed recreation sites,
>>
>> certain units of the National Landscape Conservation System, areas
>>
>> excluded from casual collection in a Land Use Plan such as an Area of
>>
>> Critical Environmental Concern (ACEC) or a wilderness area, and areas
>>
>> closed by supplemental regulations;
>>
>> Individuals are limited to collecting what can be easily hand-carried,
>>
>> up to a maximum of ten pounds of meteorites per individual, per year;
>>
>> Only surface collection of meteorites using non-motorized and
>>
>> non-mechanical equipment is allowed (metal detectors may be used); and
>>
>> Casually-collected meteorites are for personal use only, and may not be
>>
>> bartered or sold for commercial purposes.
>>
>> On 1/9/2018 4:50 AM, Jim Wooddell wrote:
>>
>>  > What law?  Can you please reference the CFR’s?
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > Kind Regards,
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > Jim Wooddell
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > Sent from Mail  for
>>
>>  > Windows 10
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > *From: *Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list
>>
>>  > 
>>
>>  > *Sent: *Monday, January 8, 2018 5:23 PM
>>
>>  > *To: *Raremeteorites 
>>
>>  > *Cc: *metlist 
>>
>>  > *Subject: *Re: [meteorite-list] BLM Public Land
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > I haven't hunted meteorites - other than the occasional fall or
>> probable
>>
>>  > fall - in many years and no I never had any trouble with any government
>>
>>  > or state agency relating to meteorites or anything else.
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > On Jan 8, 2018 2:58 PM, "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list"
>>
>>  > >
>>  > > wrote:
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  >    Hi Ruben and List,
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  >    Ruben, didn't you have problems with the BLM?
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  >    I was just trying to save some dealers from grief.  I do not agree
>>
>>  >    with the new laws, that were incorporated after much press about
>> the
>>
>>  >    monetary value of meteorites aired a few years back, but still
>> abide
>>
>>  >    by them.
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  >    Anybody dealing meteorites found on public land is at serious risk
>>
>>  >    of prosecution since they are making themselves low-hanging fruit
>>
>>  >    for competitors and agents alike.  It only takes one phone call.
>>
>>  >    Not only that, dealers who break the law by selling these finds,
>>
>>  >    jeopardize the collection of meteorites on public lands for the
>> rest
>>
>>  >    of us.  Dealers breaking the law can be used as examples for even
>>
>>  >    stricter laws forbidding the hunting of meteorites altogether.
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  >    Adam
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  >
>>
>> 

Re: [meteorite-list] BLM Public Land

2018-01-10 Thread Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list 


I wish what you said was true however the original and much abused 1906 
Antiquities law was clarified to include meteorites as cultural objects 
with scientific value.  In any case, permits are required which will 
never be issued for commercial purposes and without one, you are 
committing a criminal act by selling them.


Just talk to miners, artifact hunters and rock hounds and they will tell 
the noncommercial use aspect is enforced.  The Department of Interior 
has and still claims ownership of all meteorites found on public land. 
This predates the 2012 clarification which is still enforced.


Or better yet, contact a BLM office and inquire,




On 1/9/2018 2:32 PM, Murray Paulson via Meteorite-list wrote:

Hi Michael:

Thanks so much for the clarification. That is a very positive outcome
for this threaCheers.

Murray

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list
 wrote:

Instruction Memorandum No. 2012-182
Expires:  09/30/2013

It no longer is applicable, nor was it ever truly.  I got further than
anyone in attempting to procure one of their so-called "permits"; they
were never intended to be issued to anyone, nor is that memo a law.
As Jim correctly points out, the law is silent on the meteorite front.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
 wrote:

The law was updated on September 10, 2012.  They felt the law need to be
updated in order to protect meteorites after seeing all of TV shows on how
valuable they were. All these laws have a genesis to the Antiquities Act of
1906 which has been heavily abused by politicians including massive land
grabs.

Here is a link directly to the BLM updates which directly relates to
meteorites:

https://www.blm.gov/policy/im-2012-182-0

The BLM will provide you with PDF files if you want to research in depth.



On 1/9/2018 8:05 AM, Jim Wooddell wrote:


What date are you referring to in regards to  43 CFR 8365.1-5???

GPO has the 2001 version and there is not one mention of meteorites nor
any of the wording below.
Can you reference a link to the CFR in question?

My Ref:

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2001-title43-vol2/pdf/CFR-2001-title43-vol2-sec8365-1-5.pdf

Jim

Sent from Mail  for
Windows 10

*From: *Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list

*Sent: *Tuesday, January 9, 2018 8:41 AM
*To: *metlist 

*Subject: *Re: [meteorite-list] BLM Public Land

43 CFR 8365.1-5

Collection of meteorites is limited to certain public lands. Public

lands closed to casual collection include: developed recreation sites,

certain units of the National Landscape Conservation System, areas

excluded from casual collection in a Land Use Plan such as an Area of

Critical Environmental Concern (ACEC) or a wilderness area, and areas

closed by supplemental regulations;

Individuals are limited to collecting what can be easily hand-carried,

up to a maximum of ten pounds of meteorites per individual, per year;

Only surface collection of meteorites using non-motorized and

non-mechanical equipment is allowed (metal detectors may be used); and

Casually-collected meteorites are for personal use only, and may not be

bartered or sold for commercial purposes.

On 1/9/2018 4:50 AM, Jim Wooddell wrote:

  > What law?  Can you please reference the CFR’s?

  >

  > Kind Regards,

  >

  > Jim Wooddell

  >

  > Sent from Mail  for

  > Windows 10

  >

  > *From: *Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list

  > 

  > *Sent: *Monday, January 8, 2018 5:23 PM

  > *To: *Raremeteorites 

  > *Cc: *metlist 

  > *Subject: *Re: [meteorite-list] BLM Public Land

  >

  > I haven't hunted meteorites - other than the occasional fall or
probable

  > fall - in many years and no I never had any trouble with any government

  > or state agency relating to meteorites or anything else.

  >

  > On Jan 8, 2018 2:58 PM, "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list"

  >  > wrote:

  >

  > Hi Ruben and List,

  >

  > Ruben, didn't you have problems with the BLM?

  >

  > I was just trying to save some dealers from grief.  I do not agree

  > with the new laws, that were incorporated after much press about
the

  > monetary value of meteorites aired a few years back, but still
abide

  > by them.

  >

  > Anybody dealing meteorites found on public land is at serious risk

  > of prosecution since they are making themselves low-hanging fruit

  > for competitors and agents alike.  It only takes one phone call.

  > Not only that, dealers who break the law by selling these

Re: [meteorite-list] BLM Public Land

2018-01-10 Thread Mark Bowling via Meteorite-list 
Great news, I was just wondering about this the other day...  Thanks Michael.

Happy hunting Larry!!  Hope you find a whopper!

Mark




From: Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list 
To: metlist  
Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM Public Land



Instruction Memorandum No. 2012-182

Expires:  09/30/2013


It no longer is applicable, nor was it ever truly.  I got further than

anyone in attempting to procure one of their so-called "permits"; they

were never intended to be issued to anyone, nor is that memo a law.

As Jim correctly points out, the law is silent on the meteorite front.


Michael in so. Cal.


On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list

 wrote:

> The law was updated on September 10, 2012.  They felt the law need to be

> updated in order to protect meteorites after seeing all of TV shows on how

> valuable they were. All these laws have a genesis to the Antiquities Act of

> 1906 which has been heavily abused by politicians including massive land

> grabs.

>

> Here is a link directly to the BLM updates which directly relates to

> meteorites:

>

> https://www.blm.gov/policy/im-2012-182-0

>

> The BLM will provide you with PDF files if you want to research in depth.

>

>

>

> On 1/9/2018 8:05 AM, Jim Wooddell wrote:

>>

>> What date are you referring to in regards to  43 CFR 8365.1-5???

>>

>> GPO has the 2001 version and there is not one mention of meteorites nor

>> any of the wording below.

>> Can you reference a link to the CFR in question?

>>

>> My Ref:

>>

>> https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2001-title43-vol2/pdf/CFR-2001-title43-vol2-sec8365-1-5.pdf

>>

>> Jim

>>

>> Sent from Mail  for

>> Windows 10

>>

>> *From: *Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list

>> 

>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 9, 2018 8:41 AM

>> *To: *metlist 

>>

>> *Subject: *Re: [meteorite-list] BLM Public Land

>>

>> 43 CFR 8365.1-5

>>

>> Collection of meteorites is limited to certain public lands. Public

>>

>> lands closed to casual collection include: developed recreation sites,

>>

>> certain units of the National Landscape Conservation System, areas

>>

>> excluded from casual collection in a Land Use Plan such as an Area of

>>

>> Critical Environmental Concern (ACEC) or a wilderness area, and areas

>>

>> closed by supplemental regulations;

>>

>> Individuals are limited to collecting what can be easily hand-carried,

>>

>> up to a maximum of ten pounds of meteorites per individual, per year;

>>

>> Only surface collection of meteorites using non-motorized and

>>

>> non-mechanical equipment is allowed (metal detectors may be used); and

>>

>> Casually-collected meteorites are for personal use only, and may not be

>>

>> bartered or sold for commercial purposes.

>>

>> On 1/9/2018 4:50 AM, Jim Wooddell wrote:

>>

>>  > What law?  Can you please reference the CFR’s?

>>

>>  >

>>

>>  > Kind Regards,

>>

>>  >

>>

>>  > Jim Wooddell

>>

>>  >

>>

>>  > Sent from Mail  for

>>

>>  > Windows 10

>>

>>  >

>>

>>  > *From: *Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list

>>

>>  > 

>>

>>  > *Sent: *Monday, January 8, 2018 5:23 PM

>>

>>  > *To: *Raremeteorites 

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>>  > *Cc: *metlist 

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>>  > *Subject: *Re: [meteorite-list] BLM Public Land

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>>  >

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>>  > I haven't hunted meteorites - other than the occasional fall or

>> probable

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>>  > fall - in many years and no I never had any trouble with any government

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>>  > or state agency relating to meteorites or anything else.

>>

>>  >

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>>  > On Jan 8, 2018 2:58 PM, "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list"

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>>  > >

>>  > > wrote:

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>>  >

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>>  > Hi Ruben and List,

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>>  >

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>>  > Ruben, didn't you have problems with the BLM?

>>

>>  >

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>>  > I was just trying to save some dealers from grief.  I do not agree

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>>  > with the new laws, that were incorporated after much press about

>> the

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>>  > monetary value of meteorites aired a few years back, but still

>> abide

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>>  > by them.

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>>  >

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>>  > Anybody dealing meteorites found on public land is at serious risk

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>>  > of prosecution since they are making themselves low-hanging fruit

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>>  > for competitors and agents alike.  It only takes one phone call.

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>>  > Not only that, dealers who break the law by selling these finds,

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>>  > jeopardize the collection of meteorites on public lands for the

>> rest

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>>  >

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2018-01-10 Thread Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list 
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Tourinnes-la-Grosse

Contributed by: Hanno Strufe

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=01/10/2018
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