Re: [meteorite-list] The "definitive" collector's list of meteorites

[Mendy Ouzillou via Meteorite-list]

Anne,

I did not forget Monnig, I chose to leave it and others off as there are many 
famous collections. That is what the ellipsis denoted.

Glorieta Mountain is already on the list.

Not sure why you would include Belle Plaine on any list unless you specifically 
collect Kansas meteorites. It's a find, not a fall and it is an L6. Huckitta is 
the epitome of a weathered out Pallasite. You could certainly have the same 
opinion about Wolfe Creek, but I wouldn't recommend Huckitta as a 
representative pallasite specimen. I would likely recommend Haxtun for a type 
collector, but no as a necessary meteorite of a "standard" collection.

I think Tafassasset is a good idea and a great example of a primitive 
achondrite.

I realized I should have included Choteau, Eagle Station, Vermillion and 
Springwater in the more advanced collection.


Mendy

-Original Message-
From: Anne Black  
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 12:19 PM
To: mendy.ouzil...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The "definitive" collector's list of meteorites

In the Famous Collections section you are forgetting the Monnig Collection.
Almost as important as Nininger.

In collection #2, I would add
Belle Plaine
Haxtun
Huckitta
Glorieta Mountain
Tafassasset

and in collection #3, I would certainly add Nakhla, the real one. Yes, it is 
available (I have it) ;-)

 
Anne Black
IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com



-Original Message-
From: Mendy Ouzillou via Meteorite-list 
To: meteorite-list 
Sent: Sun, May 13, 2018 10:04 am
Subject: [meteorite-list] The "definitive" collector's list of meteorites

Friends,

If only I could do this halfway ... ;-)

Many of you have provided great feedback on what specimens should and should 
not be included in this list. In reading your feedback, I, like some of you, 
also came to the conclusion that just one list does not make sense. To make 
this list consistent, we will assume all specimens are greater than 1g, unless 
in very rare instances, micros are really all that are realistically available. 
The other thing I realized is that every collection should own some historic 
specimens and while some are must-haves, like L'Aigle and Ensisheim, there are 
many others where once the collector gets to a certain point, they should have 
the education necessary to make the right decision for their own collections. 
After carefully reviewing the list, I realized that like many other similar 
lists I've seen, there are geographic biases.
For example, Park Forest is a must have for American collectors, but Barwell or 
Crumlin is a far better choice for European collectors (even taking into 
account the price differences). Finally, I decided to organize the list levels 
based on availability and price. There are no post-Antarctic treaty meteorites 
on this list for obvious reasons.

Note: This is not the list for type specimen collectors.

Now, from this list, how would you adjust it ...


-
1) Beginner's list (up to $20/g and easily available):
Saharan XXX stoney preferably with dark brown or black smooth crust (not
fresh) - can be NWA 869
L3 with good contrast chondrules between chondrules and matrix Iron specimen - 
a piece of Sikhote Alin shrapnel or hand-sized Campo del Cielo Seymchan (with 
olivines) Vaca Muerta Saharan HED - Eucrite like DHO 007, Diogenite like NWA 
7831, Howardite like NWA 1929

***Non-meteorite: Indochinite tektite (this is only non-meteoritic listing so 
as not to complicate this list further)

Then -
Bondoc nodule
Gao-Guenie (oriented)
Chelyabinsk
Sikhote Alin - individual


-
2) "I'm starting to get addicted" list (up to $250/g and/or moderately easy to 
find):
Can include larger and nicer specimens from Beginner's list.
Abee
Alfianello
Allende
Almahatta Sitta (coarse grained URE variant) Bencubbin Bereba Bilanga Bjurbole 
Camel Donga Campo del Cielo - large regmaglypted specimen Canyon Diablo Cape 
York Carancas Chergach (or Bassikounou) DAG 999 Estherville - bonus for adding 
a nugget Esquel Gebel Kamil Gibeon Gujba Henbury Hoba Holbrook Ibitira Imilac 
Isheyevo Johnstown Juancheng Kainsaz Kapoeta Lake Murray Lunar - Tindouf 
pairings (any feldspathic breccia) Marjalahti Martian - NWA 7397, NWA 6963
METEOR-WRONG: Mendota, Shirokovsky
Miles
Millbillillie
Mount Dooling
Moss
Mundrabilla
Murchison
Norton County
NWA 2999 (or its pairings)
NWA 859 (Taza)
NWA 801
NWA 998, or other more recent Saharan Nakhlite Odessa Pena Blanca Spring 
Portales Valley Puerto Lapice Pultusk Saricicek Sao Joao Nepomuceno Tatahouine 
Thuathe Tirhert Tucson Udei Station Valera Weston Whitecourt Wiluna Willamette 
Wolfe Creek Wold Cottage
--
Oriented specimens
Specimen(s) from your city, state, country

Re: [meteorite-list] The "definitive" collector's list of meteorites

[Alexander Seidel via Meteorite-list]

I did not follow this closely, but as far as famous US collections are
concerned, don´t forget the Haag and Schwade collections, besides Monnig
and Nininger. Well, may be I overlooked something here, and it was already
mentioned. If so, pardon please.

Then I suggested the Pultusk meteorite should definitely be added to Mendy´s 
first list, which was done in the meantime, thank you.

Best regards
Alex Seidel
Stade/Germany



> Gesendet: Sonntag, 13. Mai 2018 um 19:18 Uhr
> Von: "Anne Black via Meteorite-list" 
> An: mendy.ouzil...@gmail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] The "definitive" collector's list of meteorites
>
> In the Famous Collections section you are forgetting the Monnig Collection.
> Almost as important as Nininger.
> 
> In collection #2, I would add
> Belle Plaine
> Haxtun
> Huckitta
> Glorieta Mountain
> Tafassasset
> 
> and in collection #3, I would certainly add 
> Nakhla, the real one. Yes, it is available (I have it) ;-)
> 
>  
> Anne Black
> IMPACTIKA.com
> impact...@aol.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mendy Ouzillou via Meteorite-list 
> To: meteorite-list 
> Sent: Sun, May 13, 2018 10:04 am
> Subject: [meteorite-list] The "definitive" collector's list of meteorites
> 
> Friends,
> 
> If only I could do this halfway ... ;-)
> 
> Many of you have provided great feedback on what specimens should and should
> not be included in this list. In reading your feedback, I, like some of you,
> also came to the conclusion that just one list does not make sense. To make
> this list consistent, we will assume all specimens are greater than 1g,
> unless in very rare instances, micros are really all that are realistically
> available. The other thing I realized is that every collection should own
> some historic specimens and while some are must-haves, like L'Aigle and
> Ensisheim, there are many others where once the collector gets to a certain
> point, they should have the education necessary to make the right decision
> for their own collections. After carefully reviewing the list, I realized
> that like many other similar lists I've seen, there are geographic biases.
> For example, Park Forest is a must have for American collectors, but Barwell
> or Crumlin is a far better choice for European collectors (even taking into
> account the price differences). Finally, I decided to organize the list
> levels based on availability and price. There are no post-Antarctic treaty
> meteorites on this list for obvious reasons.
> 
> Note: This is not the list for type specimen collectors.
> 
> Now, from this list, how would you adjust it ...
> 
> 
> -
> 1) Beginner's list (up to $20/g and easily available):
> Saharan XXX stoney preferably with dark brown or black smooth crust (not
> fresh) - can be NWA 869
> L3 with good contrast chondrules between chondrules and matrix
> Iron specimen - a piece of Sikhote Alin shrapnel or hand-sized Campo del
> Cielo
> Seymchan (with olivines)
> Vaca Muerta
> Saharan HED - Eucrite like DHO 007, Diogenite like NWA 7831, Howardite like
> NWA 1929
> 
> ***Non-meteorite: Indochinite tektite (this is only non-meteoritic listing
> so as not to complicate this list further)
> 
> Then - 
> Bondoc nodule
> Gao-Guenie (oriented)
> Chelyabinsk
> Sikhote Alin - individual
> 
> 
> -
> 2) "I'm starting to get addicted" list (up to $250/g and/or moderately easy
> to find):
> Can include larger and nicer specimens from Beginner's list.
> Abee
> Alfianello
> Allende
> Almahatta Sitta (coarse grained URE variant)
> Bencubbin
> Bereba
> Bilanga
> Bjurbole
> Camel Donga
> Campo del Cielo - large regmaglypted specimen
> Canyon Diablo
> Cape York
> Carancas
> Chergach (or Bassikounou)
> DAG 999
> Estherville - bonus for adding a nugget
> Esquel
> Gebel Kamil
> Gibeon
> Gujba
> Henbury
> Hoba
> Holbrook
> Ibitira
> Imilac
> Isheyevo
> Johnstown
> Juancheng
> Kainsaz
> Kapoeta
> Lake Murray
> Lunar - Tindouf pairings (any feldspathic breccia)
> Marjalahti
> Martian - NWA 7397, NWA 6963
> METEOR-WRONG: Mendota, Shirokovsky
> Miles
> Millbillillie
> Mount Dooling
> Moss
> Mundrabilla
> Murchison
> Norton County
> NWA 2999 (or its pairings)
> NWA 859 (Taza)
> NWA 801
> NWA 998, or other more recent Saharan Nakhlite
> Odessa
> Pena Blanca Spring
> Portales Valley
> Puerto Lapice
> Pultusk
> Saricicek
> Sao Joao Nepomuceno
> Tatahouine
> Thuathe
> Tirhert
> Tucson
> Udei Station
> Valera
> Weston
> Whitecourt
> Wiluna
> Willamette
> Wolfe Creek
> Wold Cottage
> --
> Oriented specimens
> Specimen(s) from your city, state, country
> --
> Museum specimens: 
> Famous collection specimens: Nininger, Kranz, Upham, Dupont, Buddhue, ...
> Ouzillou (just 

Re: [meteorite-list] The "definitive" collector's list of meteorites

[Anne Black via Meteorite-list]

In the Famous Collections section you are forgetting the Monnig Collection.
Almost as important as Nininger.

In collection #2, I would add
Belle Plaine
Haxtun
Huckitta
Glorieta Mountain
Tafassasset

and in collection #3, I would certainly add 
Nakhla, the real one. Yes, it is available (I have it) ;-)

 
Anne Black
IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com



-Original Message-
From: Mendy Ouzillou via Meteorite-list 
To: meteorite-list 
Sent: Sun, May 13, 2018 10:04 am
Subject: [meteorite-list] The "definitive" collector's list of meteorites

Friends,

If only I could do this halfway ... ;-)

Many of you have provided great feedback on what specimens should and should
not be included in this list. In reading your feedback, I, like some of you,
also came to the conclusion that just one list does not make sense. To make
this list consistent, we will assume all specimens are greater than 1g,
unless in very rare instances, micros are really all that are realistically
available. The other thing I realized is that every collection should own
some historic specimens and while some are must-haves, like L'Aigle and
Ensisheim, there are many others where once the collector gets to a certain
point, they should have the education necessary to make the right decision
for their own collections. After carefully reviewing the list, I realized
that like many other similar lists I've seen, there are geographic biases.
For example, Park Forest is a must have for American collectors, but Barwell
or Crumlin is a far better choice for European collectors (even taking into
account the price differences). Finally, I decided to organize the list
levels based on availability and price. There are no post-Antarctic treaty
meteorites on this list for obvious reasons.

Note: This is not the list for type specimen collectors.

Now, from this list, how would you adjust it ...


-
1) Beginner's list (up to $20/g and easily available):
Saharan XXX stoney preferably with dark brown or black smooth crust (not
fresh) - can be NWA 869
L3 with good contrast chondrules between chondrules and matrix
Iron specimen - a piece of Sikhote Alin shrapnel or hand-sized Campo del
Cielo
Seymchan (with olivines)
Vaca Muerta
Saharan HED - Eucrite like DHO 007, Diogenite like NWA 7831, Howardite like
NWA 1929

***Non-meteorite: Indochinite tektite (this is only non-meteoritic listing
so as not to complicate this list further)

Then - 
Bondoc nodule
Gao-Guenie (oriented)
Chelyabinsk
Sikhote Alin - individual


-
2) "I'm starting to get addicted" list (up to $250/g and/or moderately easy
to find):
Can include larger and nicer specimens from Beginner's list.
Abee
Alfianello
Allende
Almahatta Sitta (coarse grained URE variant)
Bencubbin
Bereba
Bilanga
Bjurbole
Camel Donga
Campo del Cielo - large regmaglypted specimen
Canyon Diablo
Cape York
Carancas
Chergach (or Bassikounou)
DAG 999
Estherville - bonus for adding a nugget
Esquel
Gebel Kamil
Gibeon
Gujba
Henbury
Hoba
Holbrook
Ibitira
Imilac
Isheyevo
Johnstown
Juancheng
Kainsaz
Kapoeta
Lake Murray
Lunar - Tindouf pairings (any feldspathic breccia)
Marjalahti
Martian - NWA 7397, NWA 6963
METEOR-WRONG: Mendota, Shirokovsky
Miles
Millbillillie
Mount Dooling
Moss
Mundrabilla
Murchison
Norton County
NWA 2999 (or its pairings)
NWA 859 (Taza)
NWA 801
NWA 998, or other more recent Saharan Nakhlite
Odessa
Pena Blanca Spring
Portales Valley
Puerto Lapice
Pultusk
Saricicek
Sao Joao Nepomuceno
Tatahouine
Thuathe
Tirhert
Tucson
Udei Station
Valera
Weston
Whitecourt
Wiluna
Willamette
Wolfe Creek
Wold Cottage
--
Oriented specimens
Specimen(s) from your city, state, country
--
Museum specimens: 
Famous collection specimens: Nininger, Kranz, Upham, Dupont, Buddhue, ...
Ouzillou (just seeing if you're paying attention)
--
For European collectors:
Barwell
Chantonnay
Crumlin
Hvittis
Juvinas/Stannern
Lance
Lowicz
Twannberg
Zaklodzie
--
For Chinese collectors:
Aletai (previously known as Armanty)
Dong Ujimqin Qi
Enshi
Fukang
Huoyanshan
Jilin
Juancheng
Ningbo
Ningqiang
Suizhou
Wuan
Xining
--
For North American collectors:
Ash Creek
Axtell
Bruderheim
Buzzard Coulee
Cat Mountain
Forest City
Glorieta Mountain
Gold Basin
Happy Canyon
Holbrook
Lost City
Mifflin
Park Forest
Pasamonte
Peekskill/Worden/Sylacauga/Claxton (classic American hammers)
Sacramento Wash 005


-
3) "I'm completely broke, but look at these great rocks" or "Don't tell
anyone I won the lottery, and look at these great rocks" list (up to $2000/g
and/or generally difficult to find):
Can include larger and better specimens from lists 1) and 2)
Allan Hills A76009
Almahatta Sitta (all the variants)

[meteorite-list] The "definitive" collector's list of meteorites

[Mendy Ouzillou via Meteorite-list]

Friends,

If only I could do this halfway ... ;-)

Many of you have provided great feedback on what specimens should and should
not be included in this list. In reading your feedback, I, like some of you,
also came to the conclusion that just one list does not make sense. To make
this list consistent, we will assume all specimens are greater than 1g,
unless in very rare instances, micros are really all that are realistically
available. The other thing I realized is that every collection should own
some historic specimens and while some are must-haves, like L'Aigle and
Ensisheim, there are many others where once the collector gets to a certain
point, they should have the education necessary to make the right decision
for their own collections. After carefully reviewing the list, I realized
that like many other similar lists I've seen, there are geographic biases.
For example, Park Forest is a must have for American collectors, but Barwell
or Crumlin is a far better choice for European collectors (even taking into
account the price differences). Finally, I decided to organize the list
levels based on availability and price. There are no post-Antarctic treaty
meteorites on this list for obvious reasons.

Note: This is not the list for type specimen collectors.

Now, from this list, how would you adjust it ...


-
1) Beginner's list (up to $20/g and easily available):
Saharan XXX stoney preferably with dark brown or black smooth crust (not
fresh) - can be NWA 869
L3 with good contrast chondrules between chondrules and matrix
Iron specimen - a piece of Sikhote Alin shrapnel or hand-sized Campo del
Cielo
Seymchan (with olivines)
Vaca Muerta
Saharan HED - Eucrite like DHO 007, Diogenite like NWA 7831, Howardite like
NWA 1929

***Non-meteorite: Indochinite tektite (this is only non-meteoritic listing
so as not to complicate this list further)

Then - 
Bondoc nodule
Gao-Guenie (oriented)
Chelyabinsk
Sikhote Alin - individual


-
2) "I'm starting to get addicted" list (up to $250/g and/or moderately easy
to find):
Can include larger and nicer specimens from Beginner's list.
Abee
Alfianello
Allende
Almahatta Sitta (coarse grained URE variant)
Bencubbin
Bereba
Bilanga
Bjurbole
Camel Donga
Campo del Cielo - large regmaglypted specimen
Canyon Diablo
Cape York
Carancas
Chergach (or Bassikounou)
DAG 999
Estherville - bonus for adding a nugget
Esquel
Gebel Kamil
Gibeon
Gujba
Henbury
Hoba
Holbrook
Ibitira
Imilac
Isheyevo
Johnstown
Juancheng
Kainsaz
Kapoeta
Lake Murray
Lunar - Tindouf pairings (any feldspathic breccia)
Marjalahti
Martian - NWA 7397, NWA 6963
METEOR-WRONG: Mendota, Shirokovsky
Miles
Millbillillie
Mount Dooling
Moss
Mundrabilla
Murchison
Norton County
NWA 2999 (or its pairings)
NWA 859 (Taza)
NWA 801
NWA 998, or other more recent Saharan Nakhlite
Odessa
Pena Blanca Spring
Portales Valley
Puerto Lapice
Pultusk
Saricicek
Sao Joao Nepomuceno
Tatahouine
Thuathe
Tirhert
Tucson
Udei Station
Valera
Weston
Whitecourt
Wiluna
Willamette
Wolfe Creek
Wold Cottage
--
Oriented specimens
Specimen(s) from your city, state, country
--
Museum specimens: 
Famous collection specimens: Nininger, Kranz, Upham, Dupont, Buddhue, ...
Ouzillou (just seeing if you're paying attention)
--
For European collectors:
Barwell
Chantonnay
Crumlin
Hvittis
Juvinas/Stannern
Lance
Lowicz
Twannberg
Zaklodzie
--
For Chinese collectors:
Aletai (previously known as Armanty)
Dong Ujimqin Qi
Enshi
Fukang
Huoyanshan
Jilin
Juancheng
Ningbo
Ningqiang
Suizhou
Wuan
Xining
--
For North American collectors:
Ash Creek
Axtell
Bruderheim
Buzzard Coulee
Cat Mountain
Forest City
Glorieta Mountain
Gold Basin
Happy Canyon
Holbrook
Lost City
Mifflin
Park Forest
Pasamonte
Peekskill/Worden/Sylacauga/Claxton (classic American hammers)
Sacramento Wash 005


-
3) "I'm completely broke, but look at these great rocks" or "Don't tell
anyone I won the lottery, and look at these great rocks" list (up to $2000/g
and/or generally difficult to find):
Can include larger and better specimens from lists 1) and 2)
Allan Hills A76009
Almahatta Sitta (all the variants)
Cumberland Falls/Bishopville/Khor Temiki
D'Orbigny
Ensisheim
Fortuna
Krasnojarsk
L'Aigle
Monument Draw
NWA 482
Serra de Mage
Sutter's Mill
Tagish Lake
Tissint
Winona
Zagami


-
4) "Now, I'm just showing off" list (up to $20K/g and/or difficult to find):
Antarctics: Lazarus, Thiel Mountains, Allan Hills A76001
Bustee
Kaidun
Orgueil
NWA 7034 and other Black Beauty pairings
NWA 8159
Semarkona
Type specimens (not already listed above): Mighei, Renazzo, Aubres, Orgueil,
Karoonda, Angra dos Reis (crumb), Vigarano, Nakhla, Shergotty, 

Re: [meteorite-list] The top 60 meteorites

[almitt2--- via Meteorite-list]

Hi Mendy and all,

Good list for sure. Some of those are hard to get. Just a note that I
have listed in the past 4 months, or will list about 35 our of the 60.

Easy to say, but any Nininger item would be a great part of any
collection. Even if you only have one Nininger Item.

Happy collecting!

--AL MitterlingMitterling Meteorites

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