Re: [meteorite-list] christmas meteorite sale
Steve, Cant wait till you get that new digital camera !! Buying meteorites without pictures is like buying a used car blindfolded. Good luck with the sale !! Bob E - Original Message - From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 4:12 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] christmas meteorite sale Hi list.You know life is going so well, that I decided to have a 2 for 1 sale on my meteorite sale.Take any 2 you want, devide by 2 and that is what you owe me.Let me know if you want anything.There is alot of nice stuff. steve arnold = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Send a seasonal email greeting and help others. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NPA 11-17-1902 Bath Furnace Meteor Seen, Meteor-Wrong Found?
Here is a photo of the huge Bath Furnace meteorite that I took last time I was at the Chicago Field Museum http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spacerox2001/detail?.dir=f328.dnm=73d7.jpg.s rc=ph An incredible meteorite, enjoy ! Bob Evans - Original Message - From: MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 8:50 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] NPA 11-17-1902 Bath Furnace Meteor Seen,Meteor-Wrong Found? Paper: Daily Review City: Decatur, Illinois Date: Monday, November 17, 1902 Page: 1 PULL, HEAVY THUD When This Meteor Fell in . Springfield, Ills., Nov. 17. - Early Saturday night a huge meteor fell in the barn lot of W.C. Murphy, who resides one-half mile east of Rochester, a village six miles east of Springfield. The meteor struck the ground with a dull, heavy thud, and its brilliancy illuminated the country for a considerable distance as it flashed to the ground. When the meteor struck is a hole in the ground two or three feet deep. Early Sunday morning Mr. Murphy heard of the meteor and many people flocked to the farm to see it. It is as large as an ordinary barrel. (end) Article refers to the Bath Furnace meteorite. The meteorite was not found at this location, but did fall at this time about 400 miles away. It is likely the same meteor seen. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] $100 worth of junk
Check out this current meteorwrong : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=1469item=5542340611; rd=1 I cant believe how many people are willing to throw down decent cash for unverified crap like this. Absolutely amazes me. Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Who needs cash for Tucson ??
Hello, Im looking for more oriented chondrites for my collection. Unfortunately there doesnt seem to be much available. Im only looking for larger individuals over 50 grams, the fresher the better. Price range up to $1000 I appreciate photos Thanks Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Fw: [meteorite-list] Who needs cash for Tucson ??
BTW - Cash available through paypal today ! Thanks BE - Original Message - From: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 10:19 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Who needs cash for Tucson ?? Hello, Im looking for more oriented chondrites for my collection. Unfortunately there doesnt seem to be much available. Im only looking for larger individuals over 50 grams, the fresher the better. Price range up to $1000 I appreciate photos Thanks Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is Back! funny or NOT!
Actually , Steve takes these sort of things with a grain of salt. I speak to him frequently . just this afternoon on his way to a Christmas Party. He keeps me updated on his latest acquisitions and meteorite offerings. Dont expect Steve to come whining to the list about proud Tom. Just thought you should know he wont shed a tear from the latest PT website. So everyone relax , Chicago Steve will be OK Bob E. - Original Message - From: Thomas Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is Back! funny or NOT! Mike and List, Must we always get our laughs at the expense of others? I realize there are some reasons and some truths expressed in this humour but is it only a way to get back at the individual for certain infractions or indiscretions? If he has sanctioned it and thinks it funny that's different, otherwise I agree with you that it would fall into the categories you mentioned. -And all of this at the season of good will and good cheer. We should remember that we all have failings and we all have feelings. My best, Thomas --- Michael Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear List, I can see one or two lines that could be absolutely hilarious, but taken as a whole it is repetitive, heavy handed, lacking in finesse and in my opinion mean spirited, and did I say repetitive. Am I the only one to say the emperor has no clothes? Mike Fowler Chicago I just received this - haven't had time to check the site, put have hit copy before someone takes it down: http://www.xmail.net/proudtom/index.html What I have seen so far looks hysterical. Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo Park Forest
The angle of impact truly tells very little. When I arrived on Winslow St. in Park Forest 90% of the fragments that shattered from a multi kilo individual that impacted in the street landed on the south side of the St. So I assumed that the meteorite had come from the north. Then a few weeks later a local called me and showed me a 1243 gram individual that he pulled out of the ground. He also said that the impact hole wasn't completely vertical. The meteorite impacted on a 70 degree angle as though it came from the north. Obviously very strange considering the meteor came from the southwest. Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo I would argue that determining the angle of a fall from the sort of dent it makes in a car is far from a precise science! To my own eye, the dent in the Peekskill car appears to have been made by something striking largely from above, not at any sort of shallow angle. Peekskill was more than a dent, it went competely through the car! It left a sizable hole through the trunk. I've seen the car in person, and the angle of the hole is clearly at a non-vertical angle. Also, the meteorite just missed the gas tank just by a few inches! Ron Baalke __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question about oriented meteorites
Well, The Orientated form should only be used in the word Orientation .I dont think Orientated is even a word. Even though a few on the list use that form Oriented is the proper way to describe a meteorite that had a stablized flight path. Just my 2 cents Bob E - Original Message - From: Robert Woolard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 10:02 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Question about oriented meteorites Hello List and Mike, Mike just posted this a short while ago: * Subject: Oriented meteorite listed now. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2291946404 Here it is, just loaded. Mike First of all.. WOW!! Awesome specimen, Mike! Secondly, this is a good time to ask a question that I've wondered about now and then. I, too would have used the exact word oriented to describe this stone, and I know that is correct. But I often see other list members using the term orientated (with an extra -at-in the word). So my question is: Are both terms proper, or is oriented the ONLY correct term to use to describe such a meteorite as this? Thanks for any help with this question, Robert Woolard __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Decimal point vs. comma in numbers
Anytime there is a number on the right side of the decimal its a fraction of whatever unit. For most people the 0 on the left of the decimal isn't necessary BE - Original Message - From: Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Decimal point vs. comma in numbers Hi Mike, It is customary in British/European reports to use periods instead of commas for easier reading of large numbers. So while 47.015 grams means 47.015 grams to you and me, in this case it should be interpreted as 47,015 grams (47.015 kg). If we talking just about numbers I have different category question, mainly to US people. Something what make me always angry when I see it on eBay becouse this make for me misunderstanding of what seller want to sell. I talking about WHY some of You write .5g when normally this should be 0.5g This is any slang or You alvays write this also in official documents Becouse this damn DOT is too little too see it on first reading. Im just curious why You not write this zero :)) PS. I usually see it on Mike and Hupes auctions, and maybe others too (now cant find it), so this is any US language rule or what ? -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question about oriented meteorites
Yeah, I remember that day. I was there with Peter Utas when he bought that stone. Bob Haag had this huge incredible 62 LB oriented ( with lipping ) meteorite on display in his room. If I can remember. it was found in Kansas. Peter wrote a check on the spot. If he didnt I would have. It was very well priced. Jason , does your dad still have that stone? If he does, would you care to share a picture of it with the list? Thanks Bob Evans - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jason Utas [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question about oriented meteorites Jason, We met last year in Tucson. It was Sunday morning over at the Meteorite Man's room...the day you and your partner loaded that big chondrite into a small car going west. Did Rob ever give that thing up?Anyway... Advice: Enjoy being the Kid...it goes fast. John -- Original message from Jason Utas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- Hello Rob and All, In Response to this: The object weighing 47.015 kg with a 4.75 specific gravity was fallen... ... it could still be another type of meteorite (meso or pallasite?) Rob [Matson] A mesosiderite or pallasite seems pretty improbable -- if the density of iron is 7.874g/cm^3, then either this meteorite has verrry little iron in it and is a stony or it's made of half iron and half air (or some other nearly weightless substance [yeah right]). The Kid __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Test link again
Sorry to subject you to this , but, I must make sure the link works before I send it to the meteorite list http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=2290580012ssPageNam __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Pultusk, Portales, PF Ad
Well apparently the link does work! A little early for me. Not much going on ebay this evening. However I do have a Pultusk Ind. , Slice of Portales Valley and another crusted Park Forest piece, etc. ending tonight. See them here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=2290580012ssPageNam Click on sellers other items to see them all. Thanks Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A note of excuse
Not a bad Idea! Here's one of my 10 yr. old son Brandon and my favorite oriented chondrite: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spacerox2001/detail?.dir=f328.dnm=e922.jpg.s rc=ph Bob Evans - Original Message - From: moni waiblinger-seabridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 5:13 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] A note of excuse Hi list, maybe just for Christmas we should post pictures of our children or grandchildren. I know Dieter Heinlein has some cute one of his daughters with the Neuschwansteinmeteorite. Still meteorite related of course. I am sure Elias wouldn't mind to hold a rock! I know my granddaughter is very much the only person who loves rock, yes even meteorites, as much as her Omi. How about you, Larry? Sternengruss, Moni From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] A note of excuse Date: 04 Dec 2004 22:28:05 UT Hello Everybody, Just a short not of excuse because I haven't responded to any mails today - private or ... - my wife and I spent the whole day with our grandsons, went to Xmas fairs (proper word?) in our neighborhood and had a lot of fun and satisfaction ... looking into my grandson Elias' happy children's eyes when riding a toy police car, a toy helicopter, a toy fire brigade car was far beyond anything I read and said on this list during the last 24 hours. No meteorite can compare to what my grandsons mean to me !!! Good night! Best wishes from happy Grandpa, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sale and/or Photos - Oriented Amgala individuals
Matt, How about showing a picture of your Park Forest Individual. I thought I seen on your site that the piece was oriented Im sure we would all appreciate seeing it Thanks Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Michael Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sale and/or Photos - Oriented Amgala individuals Michael: This isn't really in regard to Amgala...but I have seen this brown crust on really REALLY fresh stones sometimes. For example to Worden meteorite had one side that was light brown in color as compared to the rest of the piece. My Park Forest piece is like this as well. It always is the trailing edge for some reason. Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com PO Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA ebay id: mhmeteorites - Original Message - From: Michael Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Michael Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 3:19 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sale and/or Photos - Oriented Amgala individuals Hi Greg, I notice that the Amgalas in your photos look very brown. Some other photos posted to the list show a very black fusion crust. Is it a difference in the amount of weathering? Thanks, Mike Fowler Chicago Dear Frank and List, This is a fun subject. I knew I had a few oriented Amgala's in my collection, but when I looked through the 3 kilos or so of material I have, I found that I have 20 oriented Amgala's. Most are 100% crusted and have excellent features such as lip-over, flow lines and frothing, along with some that have a nice florescent sheen on the trailing end. There are a few that are just the beginning of orientation where you can see the black, thicker crust starting to roll over the less burnt brown layer. Since I have so many, there is no need for me to hold all of these. What I will do is consider the highest offer on any of these 20 specimens. I will review all offers until Monday, December 6, 11:00PM EST (USA). I will contact the highest bidder and let them know if I accept their offer. I will most likely accept the highest bids so do not be bashful with your offers. I will not end one early as to give everyone a fair chance to make an offer up until the deadline. Here is the list with picture links, even if you do not want to make an offer, they are worth looking at: 33.3g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc1.jpg 2.4g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc4.jpg 4.1g 100% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc6.jpg 5.7g 99% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc8.jpg 4.8g 100% crust, lip-over, frothing, florescent sheen http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00010.jpg 5.5g 96% Primary, 4% Secondary crusts, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00012.jpg 2.5g 55% crust, lip-over, flow lines http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00014.jpg 11.5g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00016.jpg 6.5g 99% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00018.jpg 7.2g 70% Primary, 30% Secondary crusts, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00020.jpg 16.1g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00022.jpg 10.2g 98% crust, lip-over, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00024.jpg 13.9g 99% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00026.jpg 7.6g 90% Primary, 8% Secondary crusts, lip-over, florescent sheen http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00028.jpg 20.7g 85% Primary, 15% Secondary crusts, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00030.jpg 54.5g 100% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00032.jpg 45.6g 100% crust, lip-over, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00034.jpg 94.6g 80% crust, lip-over, flow lines http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00036.jpg 58g 95% crust, lip-over, some exterior oxidation http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00039.jpg 260g 99% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00041.jpg Email your highest offers to gmhupe at tampabay.rr.com and include the weight and/or the picture link so I can accurately track them. I will contact the highest bidders Monday evening or Tuesday. NOTE: I retain the right to refuse any offer. Thank you for looking and good luck to the highest bidders, Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmhupe at tampabay.rr.com naturesvault (eBay) - Original Message - From: fcressy fcressy at prodigy.net To: Meteorite List meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:33 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Oriented Amgala individuals
[meteorite-list] Park Forest Ebay
Here ya go . just in time for xmas Park Forest @ $100/ gram http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=19257item=5540398616 rd=1 Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Martian Meteorites on ebay
For those who dont win Adam's specimen of NWA 1110 on ebay, I still have a few specimens of my Real Nwa 1110 that I will be listing on ebay within the next few days. Thanks BE __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ebay ad - Park forest , Pultusk, Portales valley etc
Hello List, I have listed a few meteorites on ebay . A few nice ones . Park Forest crusted frag, Pultusk Ind, Portales slice etc. Try this link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2290579405; rd=1ssPageName=WDVW If that doesnt work search seller name : Maccers531 A few end soon .. the others this weekend. Thanks Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz
Matteo, Aziz , did say that there was a 10 Kilo main mass that was found in a crater. If that impact was proved , then it would be pretty hard to dispute this new fall. Wouldnt it? Bob Evans - Original Message - From: McomeMeteorite Meteorite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:27 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz many strange, 2 stones with all grey matrix - Bensour, Amgala..and one 2002, 2003 and now 2004and strangly a laboratory give immediatly the analysis of this stonemah. Matteo From: aziz habibi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:42:15 + hello bernd and list well the sample well be analised this week by nelson , i think end of the week we will know what is it. i get only two stones and i hope the guys bring me more once the area is more safe. for my name bernd it means. aziz= darling habibi= my love. a strange name for a strange man. all the best to all aziz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz Date: 27 Nov 2004 23:45:26 UT Aside from all this hustle about Bengrir, his first name is Aziz, the family name is Habibi. Although I do not speak Arabic, I do know what his first name and his family name mean but, of course, it is not up to me to disclose such information. Anyway, looking forward to hearing about Bengrir's classification and glad to see that the recent stormy weather on this list has finally abated and list members talk meteorites again instead of slinging mud at each other. Cheers and good night, it is 00:45 here, ... yawn, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Personalizza MSN Messenger con sfondi e fotografie! http://www.ilovemessenger.msn.it/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Fw: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz
Do you really think it would be that easy for the morrocans to replicate a impact crater with shovels? I sure hope there are pics of this crater BE - Original Message - From: McomeMeteorite Meteorite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz I have received some private emails where many are of my same idea...its easy take some pieces of another meteorite and put this into a crater excavated.and is impossible a fall over Morocco every year Matteo From: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED],McomeMeteorite Meteorite [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 09:37:13 -0600 Matteo, Aziz , did say that there was a 10 Kilo main mass that was found in a crater. If that impact was proved , then it would be pretty hard to dispute this new fall. Wouldnt it? Bob Evans - Original Message - From: McomeMeteorite Meteorite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:27 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz many strange, 2 stones with all grey matrix - Bensour, Amgala..and one 2002, 2003 and now 2004and strangly a laboratory give immediatly the analysis of this stonemah. Matteo From: aziz habibi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:42:15 + hello bernd and list well the sample well be analised this week by nelson , i think end of the week we will know what is it. i get only two stones and i hope the guys bring me more once the area is more safe. for my name bernd it means. aziz= darling habibi= my love. a strange name for a strange man. all the best to all aziz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz Date: 27 Nov 2004 23:45:26 UT Aside from all this hustle about Bengrir, his first name is Aziz, the family name is Habibi. Although I do not speak Arabic, I do know what his first name and his family name mean but, of course, it is not up to me to disclose such information. Anyway, looking forward to hearing about Bengrir's classification and glad to see that the recent stormy weather on this list has finally abated and list members talk meteorites again instead of slinging mud at each other. Cheers and good night, it is 00:45 here, ... yawn, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Personalizza MSN Messenger con sfondi e fotografie! http://www.ilovemessenger.msn.it/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Personalizza MSN Messenger con sfondi e fotografie! http://www.ilovemessenger.msn.it/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Adam Hupe
Adam, Aren't you the one that is involved in 99% of the arguments here on the list? Either on the offensive or defensive. Seems like everytime there is a argument , you are involved in some way That must say something shouldn't it? Maybe, you are trying to pick up where Matteo left off. Do you think none of us are noticing this? Quit the bull Adam .. sell your meteorites and shut the hell up. BE - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Extended Thanksgiving Dean, Impress us all, Instead of selling anything for a buck including Black Sea Pearls, Ming Dynasty Artifacts, Stuffed Animals, Blankets, Snake Oil and Elixirs why don't you specialize in meteorites? Learn everything you can about them, possibly start a collection and let us know about the wonders you might have discovered along the way instead of protecting your unofficial sacred cow (NWA 869). We have literally seen tons of this material and donated almost every piece that crossed our collection so we know the difference. Adam - Original Message - From: dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Extended Thanksgiving I guess that this means that I have Won and that now everybody including the Hupes realizes that NWA904 is paired with NWA869. If there is anything that I have learned from five years of spats on this list is that when somebody realizes that the gig is up and that they are wrong then they stop trying to make arguements (Intelligent, half baked or otherwise) and regress like a baby and just start talking fertilizer and horse shit... --- Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Dean, I want to personally thank you for extending Thanksgiving for us. Thanks for keeping the dead horse alive, we just can't get enough of it. If you keep kicking it long enough you will have produced so much fertilizer that you will have a heck of a bumper crop next spring. Thanks again Dean, where would we be without fruits and vegetables! Greg - Original Message - From: dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 787, 869, 904 Yes, I wouldent argue with Dr Rubin. And Rubin got a section of NWA869 and called it a L4 and then from the EXACT SAME ROCK got another section and called it an L5. Two parts of the VERY SAME ROCK that Rubin got pieces of were of a different classification. That should tell you the rock is not consistant. Then you go and sell Stan a piece of your very own NWA904 that you somehow cant figure out is mothing more than another piece of NWA869. The piece that you sold stan is so different from your photos of the other parts of the NWA904 stone (The nice part in the photo in your marketing with the black spots) that when you saw stan resell it as NWA904 (Legitamately since he got this piece of NWA904 from you - see archaives of stans postings over the past couple of days) you accuse him of substituting another rock (Presumably NWA869) and improperly selling it as NWA904. You cant even recogonize your very own NWA904 stone and you yourself is calling your own NWA904 stone 869 in your attack on stan for selling it as NWA904 saying that he paired the stone himself (When as per his email yesterday he bought this NWA904 directly from you). So no, I am not disputing what Alan Rubin is saying. I am totally agreeing with Rubin (And in your accusing attack on stan agreeing with you also) that NWA904 is just another piece of the very beautiful and highly brecciated NWA869. Sincerely DEAN --- Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dean, I will take the word of Dr. Rubin, a skilled scientists with a Ph.D. and decades of experience over somebody who does not even collect meteorites and is only in it for the money. Happy Holiday, Adam - Original Message - From: dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 787, 869, 904 You know, you can wish all you want that you dont have a lot of NWA869 pairings (And I am using NWA869 because thats my number and its the most commonly accepted name for this HUGE fall - Even the moroccans refer to it as NWA869) but like the boggy creek martian rainforest, wishing wont make it happen. And saying that it has to be definatively paired by some scientist is taking advantage of the well
Re: [meteorite-list] they way it should be
Steve, Dont you ever tire of kissing their ass?? Let Adam publickly attack your demeanor and maybe your tune will change. Are you really that oblivious to all of his tirades? Your Friend Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 1:11 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] they way it should be Hello list.I am a big hupe' fan.I buy from both brothers.I do not have any problem with them.To me THEY are what this list is all about.They spend thier own money to get results that we collecters want to see.I really look forward to seeing them again in tucson.I have been collecting for 5.5 years, and outside of haag and farmer, they continue to bring a total professioalism to this great hobby.And as far as I am concerned, there is nothing anyone can say bad about them that will affect me at all.What happens to other people, concerning them is thier business.I will continue to support them.And for the people who have never met them,come to tucson, and find out for yourself.Or as I said before,CRAWL BACK INTO THE WOODWORK. STEVE ARNOLD, CHICAGO = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - Two Sets of Auctions Ending - GreatBargains!
Bernhard, This guy is way too busy kissing his own rearend while patting himself on his back to respond to your emails. Bob Evans Team Lunar Rocks #1 Fan - Original Message - From: Bernhard Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Adam Hupe' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:19 PM Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] Ad - Two Sets of Auctions Ending - GreatBargains! For the facts I mentioned, I wouldn't call this a legitimate claim. Please consider. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Adam Hupe Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. November 2004 21:59 An: Michael Farmer Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - Two Sets of Auctions Ending - GreatBargains! Mike, You brought it up. We are only making a legitimate claim. Ratios should be very important to anybody who deals anything. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - Two Sets of Auctions Ending - Great Bargains! Here it is, meteoritehunters 2.3 meteorite-hunter 2.3 meteoritelab 7.2 raremeteorites 1.6 naturesvault 1.6 The real question is who cares? Reading little blurbs about how great you are is getting old to me and alot of other people. We are all dealers. You guys are getting more and more IN-Your-Face with this retarded best sellers (I mean Collectors) in the business. Adam, who really cares, you sell I sell we all sell. The only thing you need advertise is your material, nothing else. Mike Farmer Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - Two Sets of Auctions Ending - Great Bargains! Mike, Let me check your ratios and get back to you in a few minutes. Ebay has all kinds of extended tools to check things out and yes they do keep track. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - Two Sets of Auctions Ending - Great Bargains! Adam, I know what you are talking about, but that is BULLPUCKEY, are you telling me that you did that for every seller of meteorites? You would have to if you claim to be the best. Myself, I have a 7.1 Of course it is totally flawed since most buyers who have already left feedbacks do not bother to continue to leave them, as they really do not affect the feedback score. Any other ways to try and make it seem like you are the best seller out there? I thought you were just collectors? You sure don't try to market that way. Michael Farmer - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - Two Sets of Auctions Ending - Great Bargains! Mike, A good measure of customer satisfaction is how many times customers repeat business. It is very simple to figure out, divide total number of positive feedback by unique feedback and our ratio is over 7 to 1, the best by far in the meteorite/tektite subsection. This means that on the average a customer will repeat business with us at least seven times. Anybody who understands customer satisfaction will tell you this is the most important ratio in the business. Regards, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - Two Sets of Auctions Ending - Great Bargains! Adam, now tell me how you suggest that you are TOP in the meteorite and tektite subsection. That is absurd. I have been a Powerseller for years, and Ebay does not break such things down. That is just idiotic. Michael Farmer - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 11:42 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ad - Two Sets of Auctions Ending - Great Bargains! Dear List Members, Two sets of auctions representing over 130 great specimens are ending tonight. Many are still bargain priced at just 99 cents. To see these officially classified items please click on the link below and go to Go see all current items for sale by this member. The weekly rare material specials are always listed last so you
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA904 Meteorite, Collection in a Slice, MAIN MASS 1, 968g
Ouch, Adam thats some sloppy work my friend. Maybe we all need to take a look at the meteorites we bought from you.Who knows what we really got ?? Maybe you should spend more time going over your work than bragging on the list BE - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA904 Meteorite, Collection in a Slice,MAIN MASS 1, 968g Hi Marcin, The picture of the slice you took sure looks like NWA 904 to me. If it indeed has paperwork stating it is NWA 787, obviously a mistake has been made. Send back the old ID card or scan it and we will provide you with the correct one. We have sold over 10,000 specimens so it possible to make mistakes. The key is to correct them when found. All the best, Adam - Original Message - From: Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA904 Meteorite, Collection in a Slice,MAIN MASS 1, 968g Sorta looks like NWA869 to me. far from this Dean. Maybe this is not that big different from NWA869 as my NWA1906 from Mike NWA1906 :-D but this is for sure not the same meteorite. Becouse Adam usualy make more nicest photos and to not saying something without proofs, here it is: http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/nwa787_191a.jpg This 3 red big inclusions comes from center to bottom is the same comes from top to center on Adams NWA904. Also top right corner of my piece is broken, the same as bottom right of Adams NWA904. http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/nwa787_191b.jpg other side and true mirrior polishing :))) Its not the most importand thing that I need to Know now. Im just little curious :)) Also maybe this will help to sell this beautifull endpiece. And no thanks Dean, I dont want NWA869. You just make to big flood of this on ebay to have still a hope for find a client for this meteorite. :))) I better make a profit here and advertise my Beautifull BJURBOLE L/LL4 fresh 105 old Finish Fall http://www.polandmet.com/_bjurbole.htm -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] My Eyes Are Glazing Over- Need Scorecard
Paul, Thank you for shedding some light on how ridiculous these arguments really are. Some people just love to whine :-) Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Paul H [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:26 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] My Eyes Are Glazing Over- Need Scorecard As someone, who is trying to follow this discussion, my eyes are starting glaze over with NWA 1110 this; NWA 2223 that; NWA 3133 is mine; NWA 3133 is not yours; my NWA 1906 is real; your NWA 1906 is fake; may the real NWA 788, NWA 787, or NWA 482, please stand up. It is hard to search back through the innumerable posts, given the lack of a search engine specifically for the archives, to find out the details behind each specific number is being talked about. At some point, it seems someone needs to provide a scorecard of some sort, if it doesn't already exist, about what each of these players (meteorites) in the number game are about. It would help the soft core, uninitiated lurkers better understand what is the significance of NWA versus either NWA or NWA YYXX. As the posts go back and forth about these numbers, I think of a song to the tune of This Land is Your Land that starts out as NWA 1110 is My number, NWA 1110 is not your number from Uranus to Mercury. appearing at some point. Yours, Paul Baton Rouge, LA __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: solution to the number game
Stan wrote: - why not just include a notice in your ebay description specifically and unequivically stating that the material you are offering was not part of the nwa 1110 find that was recoverd - however your source for the material has sold it to you as nwa 1110 and your personal expertise in the field of meteoritics leads you to belive that the material is in fact the same meteorite as nwa 1110. Well, I believe ( I know this will not be the popular belief ) that whether a meteorite is a find or a fall and has a NWA # or locality name there really is no point in renaming specimens. If its the same meteorite . then its the same meteorite. I found over 300 Park Forest specimens ( individuals and fragments ) when it fell.If anyone wants to see pics, I have them. If I were the one to have supplied the initial sample for classification and then Adam comes along and buys or finds additional specimens, I certainly wouldnt tell him he has no right to call it Park Forest. Meteorite names and NWA #'s are not proprietary. Thats something that Adam has to come to grips with. I mean this is absolutely ridiculous. Look at SAU 001 . many people have recovered so many kilos of that stuff and nobody cares about using SAU 001. Adam apparenty feels that these guidlines only apply to more rare meteorites. I dont feel the same way. Why wouldnt everyone have to include a notice in an ebay auction as you stated above if they received specimens of any meteorite from the strewnfield after the initial find? Bob Evans - Original Message - From: stan . [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 7:03 PM Subject: solution to the number game Bob, If you want to sell your rocks as nwa 1110 - why not just include a notice in your ebay description specifically and unequivically stating that the material you are offering was not part of the nwa 1110 find that was recoverd - however your source for the material has sold it to you as nwa 1110 and your personal expertise in the field of meteoritics leads you to belive that the material is in fact the same meteorite as nwa 1110. that way there is proper disclosure. no one can say you are advetising something incorectly. to use this very specific example Adam doesnt have to worry about colelctors out there thinking they have a piece of nwa 1110 when they infact dont. and the customer can make an informed decision. I do not see how it would hurt your sales any because in the end they are all based upon the market confidence in the source anyway. Infact you could even market it as a benifit for your customers as you didnt have to go through the expense of submitting material for classification - HOWEVER they will simply have to trust your judgemt in identifying that this tiny fragment of rock really is a picritic shergotite and not a pebble that fell off of a cliff in washington state a few years ago. Meteorite numbers are much like slabbed coins. A pcgs ms65 high relief double eagle wil lsell for fair market value sight unseen. An unslabed ms-65 high relief from joe collector would not relize anywhere nearly as much, just like most collectors wouldnt spend 200$ a gram for a martian metoeirte that was simply a stone someone found on the side of the road and decided to declare as comming from mars. However when you present your customer with good, solid information as to the legitimacy of your claims in offering that gem of a coin you will see that the realized price will start to aproach that of what one might get if it were slabed. Same thing with meteorites. comments anyone? From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 22:08:54 -0800 Bob, It is very simple, send a type specimen to NAU or any other NomCom authorized laboratory and I will recognize your material when the NomCom assigns it an official NWA number. Using the numbers NWA 1110 and NWA 1877 will never be acceptable because the material has already been voted on. It is a simple matter, send in a type specimen and all the fragments. The fragments will be visually compared to the type specimen by a competent scientist. If a qualified scientist argues to the NomCom they are all the same and the NomCom votes that this is ok they will all be assigned an official number. Every fragment in the NWA 1110 batch was looked at by Dr. Irving, submitted to the NomCom and a number was assigned to cover the 118 grams of fragments, not a gram more. I am not authorized to compare material and make official judgements and neither is Mike. All we can do is offer an opinion. In the case of a fall the NomCom rules are different. Here is link to explain how you can make your unclassified and un-numbered material official: http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~glg100-p/Meteorite.html If you
Re: [meteorite-list] Bob Evans Still Committing Fraud
Adam You are such a friggin joke, I really cant understand how you can publicly make such an ass out of yourself. How can you really accuse other people of such atrocities as you commit them yourself? Aren't you selling NWA 788 on ebay currently? Wasn't it Mike Farmer who had that meteorite classified? Why is it justifiable for you ? I've seen you sell other meteorites as well such as NWA 869.You didnt have that one classified either, did you? Why don't you need to have your samples paired?? ANSWER THIS What was the source of your specimens? How do you know that they are indeed what you say they are? You couldn't possibly have every sample analyzed, could you? Quit being such a hypocritical prick and bring on your attorney BE - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:51 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Bob Evans Still Committing Fraud Dear List, This is a public warning to Bob Evans to stop using the NWA 1110 and NWA 1877 designations and meteoritelab descriptions. I filed a blanket complaint claim with ebay and found out that it is considered fraudulent to use lab numbers that do not apply to your samples. It is also against the law to steal copyrighted descriptions. It took me weeks to explain to ebay what is involved with getting numbers assigned to NWA meteorites. I will start pulling the trigger soon on this kind of fraud starting with Bob Evans. If ebay gets too many complaints the meteorite subsection might be reconsidered (eliminated). That is why I am posting this message publicly to avoid continued contact with ebay. Here are two of the many fraudulent auctions Bob Evans is involved in: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2287562058; rd=1ssPageName=WDVW http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2287562068; rd=1ssPageName=WDVW Consider this warning to edit your numbers and descriptions to reflect the truth or I will report this fraud to ebay when I return tomorrow. My attorney gave me the green light to start pursuing these cases and I will exercise my options. Wishing everybody else the best, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers
Mike, If you got a shippment of meteorites from the Amgala strewnfield , would you bother to have it classified or just sell it as Amgala ? Regardless of who had the initial sample classified. NWA #'s are not proprietary. I know that people such as Adam wishes they were. If you get a shippment from Morocco .. you trust your supplier. This is something that will always be a problem. All we really can do is trust the dealer we choose to buy from. Because god knows once the material is in the hands of a moroccan dealer we really cant be 100% sure where they got it from , unless we were there to pull it out of the sand ourselves. Bob E - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 9:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers To clarify something that is obviously causing some problems in the meteorite world right now, I want everyone to know that NWA 788, 787, and NWA 482 are numbers that came from rather large or meteorites with hundreds of pieces bought during one of my expeditions. The Hupes and many other people have the right to those numbers. Now, there are other numbers being widely used without proper title (as Dr Grossman has stated publicly and with finality that people do not own numbers, but numbers are assigned to specific meteorite specimens and must not be used with other meteorites just because you heard or someone told you it is the same). Let's all please stop this practice as it is really hurting our business and hobby. Virtually every dealer including myself has been or is guilty of this, we are in the process of correcting the situation and to start people MUST immediately comply or this will just spiral downward as we see tonight. I perused eBay today and it is still rampant with sellers using numbers they seem to have drawn from a hat. So please ask you seller next time you buy something, how they got that number, who it was assigned to and if not them, just how they came to call it that. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers
Mike, I trust you. How about I send you a sample of my NWA 1110 and NWA 1877 and have Adam send you his. Then you can report your opinion regarding comparison back to anyone who cares. Thanks Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 9:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers To clarify something that is obviously causing some problems in the meteorite world right now, I want everyone to know that NWA 788, 787, and NWA 482 are numbers that came from rather large or meteorites with hundreds of pieces bought during one of my expeditions. The Hupes and many other people have the right to those numbers. Now, there are other numbers being widely used without proper title (as Dr Grossman has stated publicly and with finality that people do not own numbers, but numbers are assigned to specific meteorite specimens and must not be used with other meteorites just because you heard or someone told you it is the same). Let's all please stop this practice as it is really hurting our business and hobby. Virtually every dealer including myself has been or is guilty of this, we are in the process of correcting the situation and to start people MUST immediately comply or this will just spiral downward as we see tonight. I perused eBay today and it is still rampant with sellers using numbers they seem to have drawn from a hat. So please ask you seller next time you buy something, how they got that number, who it was assigned to and if not them, just how they came to call it that. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers
Mike, Ive sold samples to people who bought samples from both Adam and I. They say that they are identical ( kind of hard for terrestrial rock to look identical to Martian meteorites isn't it ? ) People on this list ( who care about this issue ) respect your opinion. Im not asking you to classify it . Im merely asking you to report visual similarity Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers Well, I could easily make a judgment, but then it is going against the rules, and while I have done that before, the only way to clean up this disaster is to start living by the rules, and if you buy something through the mail from Morocco, it should be submitted. Amgala like I said in a previous email, is a fall, and like Bensour or Allende, deserves different treatment from NWA #s. Still, it is a tough call. I can say as a dealer and with some experience since I announced Amgala, I could identify it, but I cant reccomend that everyone who has owned a meteorite do it. There is no substitute for experience. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers Mike, I trust you. How about I send you a sample of my NWA 1110 and NWA 1877 and have Adam send you his. Then you can report your opinion regarding comparison back to anyone who cares. Thanks Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 9:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers To clarify something that is obviously causing some problems in the meteorite world right now, I want everyone to know that NWA 788, 787, and NWA 482 are numbers that came from rather large or meteorites with hundreds of pieces bought during one of my expeditions. The Hupes and many other people have the right to those numbers. Now, there are other numbers being widely used without proper title (as Dr Grossman has stated publicly and with finality that people do not own numbers, but numbers are assigned to specific meteorite specimens and must not be used with other meteorites just because you heard or someone told you it is the same). Let's all please stop this practice as it is really hurting our business and hobby. Virtually every dealer including myself has been or is guilty of this, we are in the process of correcting the situation and to start people MUST immediately comply or this will just spiral downward as we see tonight. I perused eBay today and it is still rampant with sellers using numbers they seem to have drawn from a hat. So please ask you seller next time you buy something, how they got that number, who it was assigned to and if not them, just how they came to call it that. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers
Yeah, But what would call them ?? BE - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers By the way, send me those meteorites, and I'll have those suckers on eBay faster than the US Senate can raise the debt ceiling:) Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers Mike, I trust you. How about I send you a sample of my NWA 1110 and NWA 1877 and have Adam send you his. Then you can report your opinion regarding comparison back to anyone who cares. Thanks Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 9:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers To clarify something that is obviously causing some problems in the meteorite world right now, I want everyone to know that NWA 788, 787, and NWA 482 are numbers that came from rather large or meteorites with hundreds of pieces bought during one of my expeditions. The Hupes and many other people have the right to those numbers. Now, there are other numbers being widely used without proper title (as Dr Grossman has stated publicly and with finality that people do not own numbers, but numbers are assigned to specific meteorite specimens and must not be used with other meteorites just because you heard or someone told you it is the same). Let's all please stop this practice as it is really hurting our business and hobby. Virtually every dealer including myself has been or is guilty of this, we are in the process of correcting the situation and to start people MUST immediately comply or this will just spiral downward as we see tonight. I perused eBay today and it is still rampant with sellers using numbers they seem to have drawn from a hat. So please ask you seller next time you buy something, how they got that number, who it was assigned to and if not them, just how they came to call it that. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers
Well, What do you say Adam? Shall we send Mike our NWA1877 and NWA1110 Put up ... or shut up Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers Bob, I would be glad to, and I think that specific meteorite is a great example of the problem we are facing. The Shergottite in question was widely distributed in Morocco, and many people got pieces of it. I sold under the name NWA 1068. I am not sure how to approach this one, it is unfair for people to demand that every fragment of it be classified, as it would be a waste of time and material. However, what is the solution? I really don't know. Mike - Original Message - From: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers Mike, Ive sold samples to people who bought samples from both Adam and I. They say that they are identical ( kind of hard for terrestrial rock to look identical to Martian meteorites isn't it ? ) People on this list ( who care about this issue ) respect your opinion. Im not asking you to classify it . Im merely asking you to report visual similarity Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers Well, I could easily make a judgment, but then it is going against the rules, and while I have done that before, the only way to clean up this disaster is to start living by the rules, and if you buy something through the mail from Morocco, it should be submitted. Amgala like I said in a previous email, is a fall, and like Bensour or Allende, deserves different treatment from NWA #s. Still, it is a tough call. I can say as a dealer and with some experience since I announced Amgala, I could identify it, but I cant reccomend that everyone who has owned a meteorite do it. There is no substitute for experience. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers Mike, I trust you. How about I send you a sample of my NWA 1110 and NWA 1877 and have Adam send you his. Then you can report your opinion regarding comparison back to anyone who cares. Thanks Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 9:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite numbers To clarify something that is obviously causing some problems in the meteorite world right now, I want everyone to know that NWA 788, 787, and NWA 482 are numbers that came from rather large or meteorites with hundreds of pieces bought during one of my expeditions. The Hupes and many other people have the right to those numbers. Now, there are other numbers being widely used without proper title (as Dr Grossman has stated publicly and with finality that people do not own numbers, but numbers are assigned to specific meteorite specimens and must not be used with other meteorites just because you heard or someone told you it is the same). Let's all please stop this practice as it is really hurting our business and hobby. Virtually every dealer including myself has been or is guilty of this, we are in the process of correcting the situation and to start people MUST immediately comply or this will just spiral downward as we see tonight. I perused eBay today and it is still rampant with sellers using numbers they seem to have drawn from a hat. So please ask you seller next time you buy something, how they got that number, who it was assigned to and if not them, just how they came to call it that. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wanted - Used Lapidary Saw
Im looking for a used lapidary saw, any size. If anyone has one for sale please email me off list. Pictures would be appreciated. Thanks Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Amgala
Bill, I wouldnt hold your breath. Bob E. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 7:02 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Amgala Adam, The innuendos you made after Dean started the sale were clear. You do that often. Your air abrasion unit sale is not very clever. Why don't you show some balls and take a real stand. Instead of casting aspersions, just get to the point. Bill __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite price list????
Try this Steve, http://www.thomascave.com/Meteorites/Charts/splitstonelist.htm Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:36 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite price list Hi list.I have had this thought going thru my head for along time.I am wondering.Is there an OFFICIAL METEORITE PRICE GUIDE?Has anyone ever put together a price guide to direct us on how to pay for a certain meteorite?And if so,where do all these different prices come from?Who determines what price for what meteorite?I do not know if this has ever been brought up.I have never seen it in my 5.5 years as a collecter.Just thought I would throw it out there.Any thoughts?? steve arnold, chicago, usa!! = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad Ebay meteorites
Hello fellow collectors, I have a few meteorites up for auction . A large diogenite fragment , a martian sample currently at $ 1.00 ending tomorrow. See folowing link and click on sellers other items : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2281962639 Thanks Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] My new Dimmitt Meteorite
Hello list, Finally I have a Dimmitt meteorite with a Monnig # @ 87 Grams I know . you're thinking Big Deal . Well, Ive been trying for quite some time to add some Monnig and Nininger meteorite individuals to my collection. Let me tell you, it hasn't been easy to find them. This is the first individual Ive acquired since I started collecting in 2002. I know slices are easier to find but I focus on meteorite individuals in my collection. So, if any of you have any other individuals of US finds from the Nininger/ Monnig era and you are interested in selling or trading, please let me know. Individuals only . no slices. See my Dimmitt here: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spacerox2001/album?.dir=/428b Thanks, Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Large Mesosiderite for sale
I have a 325 gram Vaca Muerta Individual for sale. This is an incredible piece from my collection that has eucrite and olivine inclusions sticking out all over it. One can only imagine what full slices of this would look like. Some of the olivine inclusions that protrude from the meteorite are larger than 10 mm in size. The meteorite itself is approx 75mm x 68mm x 55mm $395 + shipping Have a look : http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spacerox2001/album?.dir=/c475 Thanks Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite preservation
Hello list, I was just sitting down eating breakfast and my wife was watching an infomercial on a product that is called Foodsaver . The product is used with thick plastic bags. The way it works is, the machine vacuums out all of the air and the food is sealed air tight in a 3 layer plastic bag. Of course I thought, this has to be the ultimate way to protect meteorites from moisture. Sure, it wouldn't be an appealing way to display meteorites. But, like myself Im sure many collectors have numerous meteorites just stored away in plastic containers. I was wondering if anyone uses this machine currently to store meteorites. I would like to see how effective it is. Im sure its available on ebay listed under the name : Foodsaver Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Two Gorgeous meteorites up for auction
Hello, I have a couple of nice specimens up for auction: A 14 Gram Pultusk individual with incredibly fresh crust almost 100% Complete, and a large Martian specimen on ebay. Both worth taking a look at here: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZmaccers531QQsorecordsperpageZ50 QQsosortorderZ1QQsosortpropertyZ1 If the link doesnt work, search seller name : maccers531 BTW, for those in the market for a 75 gram awesome oriented Millbillillie Individual with Black ( not Red ) Crust please check back I will be listing it on ebay sometime this weekend. It took me over two years to find a Millbillillie individual of this quality. Everbody have a good weekend! Thanks Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE GIVAWAY#19/campo sales
I seen Steves' whole lot of Campo Sales last Sunday and the picture on his site is as good as holding them in your hand. None have jet black crust, they are a little weathered. I did get a 32 gram individual from Steve and am very happy with it. Get em before they're all gone !! Bob Evans - Original Message - From: fcressy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE GIVAWAY#19/campo sales Hello Steve, Very nice 586 gram Campos Sales specimen you have on your website (stoney meteorites page 1). I believe you provided the same one to Rocks From Space Picture of the Day last Sunday? Curious if the specimens that you are offering are from the original 23.68 kilos that were collected soon after the fall or have they been more recently collected. I'm wondering because I have a half individual from the initial collection and the crust is absolutely jet black. The image you show appears a bit brownish. I know some digital cameras dislike black for some reason and the meteorites appear brown. So I'm just curious if the TKW is higher than the 23.68 kilos, if your specimens are more weathered, or if I'm looking at a camera artifact? At any rate, it's a cool meteorite. Cheers, Frank - Original Message - From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 4:05 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] METEORITE GIVAWAY#19/campo sales Good morning list.It is a very good day.I have 3 specimens to givaway today.I just got a large half-stone of NWA 074,so my 22.5 gram slice becomes available.Also I have a small unclassified saharan.And I have a small sliced mystery.Let me know who wants them.$4.00 priority shipping gets them.Also I have 17 CAMPO SALES L5 stones left forsale.Alot of nice fragments, and only a few individuals.ALL the pieces have alot of fusion crust.Just ask bob evans,he'll tell you how nice they are.Let me know on the freebies. steve arnold, chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Campos Sales Individual
I had the pleasure of meeting with Chicago Steve today and seeing all of his Campos Sales specimens. I even picked up a nice 32 gram individual which you can see a picture of here : http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spacerox2001/my_photos Those looking for a nice specimen of this stuff should check out what hes selling before its all sold , and you wont have to wait for it to be verified by a lab because Adam Hupe isnt selling any . Thanks Steve !! Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA 1877 Large Piece Ending Soon, Amgala, Martian too
Good morning list, NWA 1877 rare Olivine Diogenite 1.4 gram piece ending soon. A great chance to win it, still very cheap. Also Amgala and a few samples of a meteorite most likely paired to Nwa 1110. For those who are interested, please take a look at my feedback there are some who were able to compare my specimens with those of other dealers... quite interesting. Have a look : http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZmaccers531QQsosortorderZ1QQsoso rtpropertyZ1 If this doesnt work, search my seller name maccers531 Thank You, Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1877 Large Piece Ending Soon, Amgala, Martian too
BLAH BLAH BLAH You must have a very keen eye to be able to assess the authenticity of these specimens based on photos on my auctions that are marginal at best. You did the same shit to Mike Farmer . What, do you think Im the only one noticing your hypocrisy ? Why dont you just have the balls to admit this is only about money to you? It certainly isnt about ethics, is it? Have a great day Team Lunar Crock BE - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1877 Large Piece Ending Soon, Amgala,Martian too What does a laboratory have to say about your offerings? If you claim these are paired why have you not changed the TKW in your descriptions to reflect this, another fraud? You did not get this material from the same source therefore it is not NWA 1110 or NWA 1877 which is reported in your descriptions. Who knows what it is? Your NWA 1877 offering does not look like any Olivine Diogenite I have ever seen, get it tested. The only pieces I have seen are brown and yellow with slight areas of green. Have a lab check them out instead of listening to a Moroccan dealer who will tell you anything to make a sale. If you do not want to hear complaints, stop using numbers that do not apply to your samples! As I stated before the free ride will be over soon enough. Adam - Original Message - From: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 6:31 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 1877 Large Piece Ending Soon, Amgala,Martian too Good morning list, NWA 1877 rare Olivine Diogenite 1.4 gram piece ending soon. A great chance to win it, still very cheap. Also Amgala and a few samples of a meteorite most likely paired to Nwa 1110. For those who are interested, please take a look at my feedback there are some who were able to compare my specimens with those of other dealers... quite interesting. Have a look : http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZmaccers531QQsosortorderZ1QQsoso rtpropertyZ1 If this doesnt work, search my seller name maccers531 Thank You, Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad- Amgala, Diogenite etc.
Hello , For anyone looking for a nice size beautiful colored Diogenite specimen, have a look at this piece : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2271387621 Be sure to check my other Items being sold for some fresh Amgala Individuals and martian meteorites. Thanks, Bob E. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] SALE :Martian, Rare Olivine Diogenite , Park Forest House Impactor
Hello, For those interested I have Nwa 1877 a rare Olivine Diogenite, NWA 1110 and Park Forest house impactor up for sale on ebay. NWA 1877 samples currently at $2.25 all ending soon Have a look there are some nice larger sized specimens up for auction. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2269794743 Or search seller name : maccers531 For those who have picked up some of these specimens already , Thank You I appreciate the support ! Thank You, Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Martian, Amgala auctions ending
Hello, I have several Martian NWA 1110 , Amgala ( one oriented 100% Fusion Crusted still at $1.00 ) ending tonight on ebay. Those who do win will be very pleased, the Amgala is an awesome meteorite with incredibly fresh crust and the NWA 1110 are comparatively large specimens. Unfortunately the pictures dont show the true beauty of these specimens. I'll have to upgrade my Digital camera soon. Use this link and click on sellers other items : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2268561031 Or search seller name maccers531 For those of you who have already bid , Thank you I appreciate it ! Have a great day ! Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad. Martian , PF , Rare Diogenite NWA 1877
Hello, For those interested I have Nwa 1877 a rare Olivine Diogenite, NWA 1110 ( yes again ) and Park Forest up for sale on ebay. Have a look there are some nice sized specimens up for auction. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=2269795593ssPageNam e=STRK:MESE:IT Or seller name : maccers531 Thank You, Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Enough is Enough, Now NWA 1877
Adam, Ive had just about enough of you. Quit being a little cry baby and get a friggin hobby. Jeff Grossman already told you meteorite names ARE NOT PROPRIETARY Do you know what that means Adam? YOU DO NOT OWN THE NAME , ADAM !! I will forward the list the email from Jeff Grossman in a moment. Adam Sell your meteorites and leave me the hell alone ! Everybody have a good week, and sorry about these unmitigated outbursts from Adam. Thank You Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 9:27 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Enough is Enough, Now NWA 1877 Dear List, Enough is really enough, Bob Evans not listening to what was posted by people in know is now using the NWA 1877 designation, the number reserved for an Olivine Diogenite. We paid for the study of this material, reserved a NWA number for it and made it official by submitting it to the NomCom for a vote. A regular Diogenite or even terrestrial stones could easily be confused so be careful about purchasing an Olivine Diogenite from anybody who did not have his material studied in a lab, approved by the NomCom and issued its very own number. Off List, does anybody have Bob Evans address so that it will save us time in serving the legal documents we had prepared, this has gone far enough. Wishing everybody who adheres to good standards and plays by the rules well, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Message from Jeff Grossman regarding NWA 1110
- Original Message - From: Jeff Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 7:35 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA 110 Photos [off-list] I'm not sure who is making these statements or if they refer to me, but: 1) No meteorite name is EVER proprietary. If the NomCom voted to formally pair something with NWA 1110, then the name would apply to the new piece as well. 2) I am not the president of the MetSoc, I am the Nomenclature Committee chair. 3) I never said that anything was fraud. jeff At 07:03 PM 9/10/2004, Comcast Mail wrote: Im sorry you feel that way Adam Sincerely, Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 110 Photos Bob, I see you are still using the proprietary NWA 1110 designation even after the President of the Meteoritical Society stated publicly to do so is fraudulent. Expect legal action soon, - Original Message - From: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 2:35 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 110 Photos Well, Sorry , I didn't realize trying to sell a few Martian meteorites would stir up so much controversy. My apologies to everyone. For those interested you can see better pics of my NWA 1110 at the following link: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spacerox2001/album?.dir=/adcf.src=ph As far as Adam goes , I know this is all about money to him. Im sure he wanted to be the sole possessor of NWA 1110 , Sorry Adam. my stuff is the same as yours. Care to share some pics? As for those interested, Im selling these on ebay You can search my Seller name maccers531 to find the auctions They end Sunday and Im sure some collectors will read between Hupes emails and get one of these rare specimens for their collection. Thanks, Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman Chair, Meteorite Nomenclature Committee (Meteoritical Society) US Geological Survey 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA Phone: (703) 648-6184 fax: (703) 648-6383 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions
Whats next ? Adam I cant use the word meteorite in my auction headers, because you own the word meteorite ,too? BE - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 9:59 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions Dear List, To show you what kind of person Bob Evans really is here is an example you can check out for yourself. Bob took it upon himself not only to use NWA numbers we reserved and paid for the study of, he is actually copying our descriptions, word-for-word. Bob, these descriptions are the property of Meteoritelab, come up with your own DESCRIPTIONS! Our Description and ebay link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2268563957 NWA 1877, 850mg fragment of the second Olivine Diogenite in private hands, found 2003 in Northwest Africa. A weight of only 312 grams is recorded for this find. NWA 1459 the only other Olivine Diogenite available to the public weighed a mere 49 grams. After cutting losses and type specimen deposits there is less than 220 grams of this material left in private hands including NWA 1459. This material is believed to represent the deepest sample, yet recovered, from the asteroid Vesta. A great deal of time was spent preparing this material. We used a penetrant stabilizer before polishing even begun to prevent the large crystals from being plucked during polishing. This is important because the crystals have cleavages that are easily fractured during preparation. No less than 10 polishing steps on a diamond lap was needed to take these specimens to a 3,500 grit polish, something you do not see everyday. This material is rarer than a Brachinite, a Chassignite or even a Lodranite. Even though this is number two, it still represents the rarest of all classifications in private hands, there is nothing rarer! Bobs stolen description and link to auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2269795593 This is a LARGE 1.2 Gram Fragment of NWA 1877. This is the second rare Olivine Diogenite in private hands, found 2003 in Northwest Africa. A weight of only 312 grams is recorded for this find. NWA 1459 is the only other Olivine Diogenite available to the public and weighed a mere 49 grams. After cutting losses and type specimen deposits there is less than 220 grams of this material left in private hands including NWA 1459. This material is believed to represent the deepest sample, yet recovered, from the asteroid Vesta. This material is rarer than a Brachinite, a Chassignite or even a Lodranite. NWA 1877 represents the rarest of all classifications in private hands, there is nothing rarer! This gorgeous meteorite is a must have for any serious or new meteorite collector ! Not only is using NWA numbers that do not match his pieces he has stolen several other descriptions and ideas from us, he is a complete fraud. Check out his other auctions and compare. All the best, Adam Hupe __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions
Dave, Do you know how long before the ebay desciptions police come to get me? Im sorry but youve got to look at Adams emails and laugh. Besides its Sunday night and theres nothing on TV more entertaining than this. Goodnight all Bob E. - Original Message - From: David Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions Now boys, isn't this become a bit unsavory? Bob, can't come up with any original description huh? I always buy from sellers in turmoil, how about the rest of the List? Makes me miss Michael Casper!! RR The Captain's our sailin' the Caribbean! Any IMCA comments? ;-) Dave F. Comcast Mail wrote: Whats next ? Adam I cant use the word meteorite in my auction headers, because you own the word meteorite ,too? BE - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 9:59 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions Dear List, To show you what kind of person Bob Evans really is here is an example you can check out for yourself. Bob took it upon himself not only to use NWA numbers we reserved and paid for the study of, he is actually copying our descriptions, word-for-word. Bob, these descriptions are the property of Meteoritelab, come up with your own DESCRIPTIONS! Our Description and ebay link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2268563957 NWA 1877, 850mg fragment of the second Olivine Diogenite in private hands, found 2003 in Northwest Africa. A weight of only 312 grams is recorded for this find. NWA 1459 the only other Olivine Diogenite available to the public weighed a mere 49 grams. After cutting losses and type specimen deposits there is less than 220 grams of this material left in private hands including NWA 1459. This material is believed to represent the deepest sample, yet recovered, from the asteroid Vesta. A great deal of time was spent preparing this material. We used a penetrant stabilizer before polishing even begun to prevent the large crystals from being plucked during polishing. This is important because the crystals have cleavages that are easily fractured during preparation. No less than 10 polishing steps on a diamond lap was needed to take these specimens to a 3,500 grit polish, something you do not see everyday. This material is rarer than a Brachinite, a Chassignite or even a Lodranite. Even though this is number two, it still represents the rarest of all classifications in private hands, there is nothing rarer! Bobs stolen description and link to auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2269795593 This is a LARGE 1.2 Gram Fragment of NWA 1877. This is the second rare Olivine Diogenite in private hands, found 2003 in Northwest Africa. A weight of only 312 grams is recorded for this find. NWA 1459 is the only other Olivine Diogenite available to the public and weighed a mere 49 grams. After cutting losses and type specimen deposits there is less than 220 grams of this material left in private hands including NWA 1459. This material is believed to represent the deepest sample, yet recovered, from the asteroid Vesta. This material is rarer than a Brachinite, a Chassignite or even a Lodranite. NWA 1877 represents the rarest of all classifications in private hands, there is nothing rarer! This gorgeous meteorite is a must have for any serious or new meteorite collector ! Not only is using NWA numbers that do not match his pieces he has stolen several other descriptions and ideas from us, he is a complete fraud. Check out his other auctions and compare. All the best, Adam Hupe __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA 110 Photos
Im sorry you feel that way Adam Sincerely, Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 110 Photos Bob, I see you are still using the proprietary NWA 1110 designation even after the President of the Meteoritical Society stated publicly to do so is fraudulent. Expect legal action soon, - Original Message - From: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 2:35 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 110 Photos Well, Sorry , I didn't realize trying to sell a few Martian meteorites would stir up so much controversy. My apologies to everyone. For those interested you can see better pics of my NWA 1110 at the following link: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spacerox2001/album?.dir=/adcf.src=ph As far as Adam goes , I know this is all about money to him. Im sure he wanted to be the sole possessor of NWA 1110 , Sorry Adam. my stuff is the same as yours. Care to share some pics? As for those interested, Im selling these on ebay You can search my Seller name maccers531 to find the auctions They end Sunday and Im sure some collectors will read between Hupes emails and get one of these rare specimens for their collection. Thanks, Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA 110 Photos
Well, Sorry , I didn't realize trying to sell a few Martian meteorites would stir up so much controversy. My apologies to everyone. For those interested you can see better pics of my NWA 1110 at the following link: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spacerox2001/album?.dir=/adcf.src=ph As far as Adam goes , I know this is all about money to him. Im sure he wanted to be the sole possessor of NWA 1110 , Sorry Adam. my stuff is the same as yours. Care to share some pics? As for those interested, Im selling these on ebay You can search my Seller name maccers531 to find the auctions They end Sunday and Im sure some collectors will read between Hupes emails and get one of these rare specimens for their collection. Thanks, Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 110 Photos
Oh please, He would never admit it .. that would mean he would have some market competition. This guy is way to egotistical and hypocritical. Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Bernhard Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 4:50 PM Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] NWA 110 Photos Adam, but it would be fair to say that it is most probably the same material as NWA 1110, right? Bernhard -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Adam Hupe Gesendet: Donnerstag, 09. September 2004 23:36 An: Comcast Mail Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 110 Photos Some people will never get it. You do not have NWA 1110! Have a scientist authenticate it and get your own number. - Original Message - From: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 2:35 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 110 Photos Well, Sorry , I didn't realize trying to sell a few Martian meteorites would stir up so much controversy. My apologies to everyone. For those interested you can see better pics of my NWA 1110 at the following link: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spacerox2001/album?.dir=/adcf.src=ph As far as Adam goes , I know this is all about money to him. Im sure he wanted to be the sole possessor of NWA 1110 , Sorry Adam. my stuff is the same as yours. Care to share some pics? As for those interested, Im selling these on ebay You can search my Seller name maccers531 to find the auctions They end Sunday and Im sure some collectors will read between Hupes emails and get one of these rare specimens for their collection. Thanks, Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Amgala, Martian, Park Forest Sale
Hello, For those interested in acquiring a nice 100% fresh fusion crusted Amgala individual I have a several listed on ebay. One oriented too ! I also have Large Nwa 1110 Picritic Martian fragments listed on ebay. These fragments are alot bigger than the ones that have been up for sale on ebay. So now is a good time to take a look. All of the auctions start at $1.00 with no reserve. Also listed are Park Forest , Great Sand Sea, etc. You can search seller name maccers531 or try the link below: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=maccers53 1include=0since=-1sort=3rows=50 Thanks for your time and good luck bidding ! Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1110 issues
Adam, Im not sure what the pictures you provided were meant to prove, other than you like taking pictures of nomads playing in the sand. Why weren't you or Greg in the photo? Just curious The Nwa 1110 that I am selling on ebay is the same meteorite that Nelson Oakes is selling on his website. Are you calling him a fraud too? Adam, do you have a problem with healthy competition? I certainly believe you do. Is it really any mystery why Mike Farmer despises you? You certainly made many accusations against him. And of course you couldn't prove any of them. My point is .. you havent seen the meteorite that Im selling so please keep your opinions to yourself. Were you ever physically at the NWA 1110 Strewnfield ? If so please show some real proof ( not pictures of nomads in the sand ). How do you really know that you got every specimen of NWA 1110 ? Please answer these questions, because I really do want to know. Please dont interfere with my auctions again. I have never done that to you. Wishing everyone the best ! Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 7:18 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 1110 issues Dear List, It has come to my attention that some sellers are still using the NWA 1110 designation to sell there untested material. It is not a marketing ploy that I bring this up as we are nearly out of stock and we start all of our true NWA 1110 auctions out at just 99 cents. Here are the problems: We had Dr. Irving at the University of Washington authenticate every piece we have ever sold or plan to sell. All of it is recorded at 118 grams can be seen at the JPL/NASA Martian web site. Other dealers selling NWA 1110 have not gone to this expense We have only supplied one dealer from Austria with NWA 1110 and he is sold out. We paid the research and authentication costs associated with every piece of NWA 1110 We deposited a type sample (something important if want your very own NWA number) We paid the cost to go into the field, monitored the recovery efforts and recorded GPS coordinates. Habibi of Morocco has been telling dealers he supplied us with NWA 1110 and so what he is selling is the same. This is not the truth as we do not do business with Habibi and never will. If you check the images below you will see we went directly to the source and recorded GPS coordinates: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa1110/nwa1110a.jpg http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa1110/nwa1110b.jpg http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa1110/nwa1110c.jpg http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa1110/nwa1110d.jpg To see auctions like the one I linked to below really irritates us because no laboratory has tested this material, the dealer should deposit a type specimen, pay the lab fees and get his very own NWA number so that every gram of meteorites paired to NWA 1068 can be recorded if they are indeed meteorites. This is what I would like to say to the person running this ebay auction Stop using NWA 1110, get a real number, put out some effort, there is no such thing as a free ride: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2268561021 Wishing everybody the best, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Images of Cool Oriented Meteorite
Nice piece, Heres a picture of one of my favorite oriented pieces in my collection: http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spacerox2001/detail?.dir=/f6ba.dnm=a6a0.jp g Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 12:22 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Images of Cool Oriented Meteorite Dear List, I am getting very bored reading about non-meteoritic things such as politics which do not belong on the List. A great deal of List members could care less since they do not live in the US. To get back on the subject of meteorites here is an image of an oriented stone. It is not magnetic so I was very tempted to cut it. I held off in favor of cutting a core from it for study. I just hate to damage a specimen like this. Trailing edge showing lip-over: http://themeteoritesite.com/Oriented1.jpg Leading edge: http://themeteoritesite.com/Oriented2.jpg Hope you enjoyed the images, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Images of Cool Oriented Meteorite
Ok Maybe this link: http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spacerox2001/album?.dir=/f6ba.src=ph Maybe this link will not be cut off. Thanks for your patience Bob E. - Original Message - From: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Images of Cool Oriented Meteorite Nice piece, Heres a picture of one of my favorite oriented pieces in my collection: http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spacerox2001/detail?.dir=/f6ba.dnm=a6a0.jp g Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 12:22 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Images of Cool Oriented Meteorite Dear List, I am getting very bored reading about non-meteoritic things such as politics which do not belong on the List. A great deal of List members could care less since they do not live in the US. To get back on the subject of meteorites here is an image of an oriented stone. It is not magnetic so I was very tempted to cut it. I held off in favor of cutting a core from it for study. I just hate to damage a specimen like this. Trailing edge showing lip-over: http://themeteoritesite.com/Oriented1.jpg Leading edge: http://themeteoritesite.com/Oriented2.jpg Hope you enjoyed the images, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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[meteorite-list] Off topic lap top offer
Hello list, I thought I would offer my Laptop computer ( actually my brothers )to the list instead of doing the ebay thing. Its a Sony Vaio notebook computer model # PCG-974L It has Windows XP and about 8 gb of free space on the harddrive. It actually has two hardrives one 5gb and the other 8gb. Other than that, it has some usual programs that came with the computer when purchased I m sure one could do a search to find out more specs. Its in excellent condition thats why I'm offering it to the list , hopefully I can help out someone whos looking for a laptop. If I didnt have 3 comps in the household already, I'd definitely keep it. So if anyones offended by my offer please remember Im trying to help someone out on the list . otherwise it would take me 2 minutes to list it on ebay. I'm asking $400 obo. Here's a pic: http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spacerox2001/detail?.dir=/8538.dnm=9c0c.jp g Thanks Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite from Turlock, CA?
Probably a hoax , but atleast the impact pits look authentic I doubt its dogshit. everyone can tell the difference between a rock and a piece of crap As far a the residual smoke.. everybody likes to embelish the facts Bob E. - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite from Turlock, CA? This one is about as dumb as the Elma crap. A bunch of teens see a fireball, follow it to the highschool, and find doodlebug craters in the track. Both are laughable. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite from Turlock, CA? Dear List, There is not a single thread of sense to this whole story. I think the failed barbecue next door statement is probably the best theory I have heard so far. My hypothesis is that a piece of fecal matter was left behind by a neighborhood dog in a pre-dug hole left behind from the pulling of a weed. This happened sometime after the newspaper boy slapped a paper off of the front of their house accounting for the thud noise. The noxious canine material then spontaneously combusted. All the best, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Help on 'Rite or 'Wrong
Doug, I sure do wish I was the mastermind behind this elaborate hoax. Unfortunately ,I am just a victim like yourself. Maybe, if we make a collaborative effort we can find out who is placing these unique tantalizing stones around the world. Saludos Bob - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Help on 'Rite or 'Wrong Hola Bob, So why did you quietly bring one of the thousands pieces behind your lakefront estate and mysteriously deposit in a field in Mexico without telling us what it is? Surely you must know what it is, please do tell. It was one tantalizingly unique black stone here ... PS: And it is certainly not dog poo (laugh): http://www.abc.net.au/rn/science/ss/stories/s1144661.htm Saludos, Doug Comcast Mail bobe5531 at comcast.net Thu Aug 5 18:12:45 EDT 2004 I hope its a rite .. I have a few thousand of these around the lake behind my house. Saludos, Bob Evans - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug at aol.com To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 4:14 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Help on 'Rite or 'Wrong Hola list, www.diogenite.com/helpme.html If you can, please give this one a moment for me. It has me very excited and I need several more critical eyes than I seem to have. Why is it always so easy to know it all about the other guy's but get stumped on our own... (or maybe it really is a rite). Saludos, Doug __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Help on 'Rite or 'Wrong
I hope its a rite .. I have a few thousand of these around the lake behind my house. Saludos, Bob Evans - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 4:14 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Help on 'Rite or 'Wrong Hola list, www.diogenite.com/helpme.html If you can, please give this one a moment for me. It has me very excited and I need several more critical eyes than I seem to have. Why is it always so easy to know it all about the other guy's but get stumped on our own... (or maybe it really is a rite). Saludos, Doug __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Nevada Meteorite on Ebay
Yep, thats exactly what it is .. Magnetite ! I just looked at some of that crappy looking stuff today from a guy set up at a flea market selling coins, etc. He said he found his meteorite in a field in Michigan. It looked exactly like the stuff the guy has on ebay. Upon close inspection.. the magnetite had way to many pits to be a meteorite. Its amazing how anybody can claim to have found a meteorite without confirmation from a lab or appropraite source and put it up on ebay. Check out this rock I found looking for meteorites in cornfields today: http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spacerox2001/detail?.dir=/58d3.dnm=5216.jp g A magnet sticks to it. But , I wouldnt throw it on ebay. Bob Evans - Original Message - From: John K. Gwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Randy Mils [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Nevada Meteorite on Ebay Looks like magnetite to me. Notice there is no rust on the examples shown in the pictures...not even down in the pits and crevices. Cutting a small window in the specimen and doing a streak test would be more conclusive. JKG At 02:53 PM 7/11/2004, Randy Mils wrote: Search on item # 2255992757 Opinions?? Randy -- http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2737??PS=47575FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Fw: [meteorite-list] Re: Bash Bob Evans Day
- Original Message - From: Mark Miconi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RYAN PAWELSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Bash Bob Evans Day Ryan, WHY re you sending this to the list? Do you think anyone really cares to see you snivel over a refund? Your first mistake was asking to pay for something you did not have the money for yet. When you are driving a cart, it helps if you see a horses ass in front of youotherwise you are putting it before the horse. If you pulled that shit with meagree to pay for something and then back outI would tell you to kiss my ass for the deposit NEVER agree to do something based on something that is yet to happen. You hung Bob out to dry. You deliberately INTEREFERED with his auctions on eBay by asking him to end them and then not completing the transaction. I WOULD REPORT YOU TO eBay. As for taking this public... That is completely unprofessional, childish and uncalled for. Your mommas boy whining bullshit is best kept privateNONE of us care about your troubles and until you can actually prove that Bob actually did anything wrong you have no right to slander him on this list. And about the Tucson crack, Hopefully you know what Bob looks likeotherwise your introduction to him might be a bit of a surprise. Take your whining and snivelling back to mommashe is the only one that cares. Mark M. - Original Message - From: RYAN PAWELSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 5:54 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Bash Bob Evans Day To set things straight once and for all.. 1. Bob, I first called you at 5:53pm CST to inquire about the refund, yet you claimed that you would have to wait a few hours to send the refund via Paypal since you did not have internet access at the time, thus proving yet another blatant lie from you; your defensive and unprofessional response to my email (to the list) came through at 6:08pm CST, a time-lapse of only 15 minutes. No internet access for a few hours??? 2. Also, regarding the original transaction; as I had told you over the phone, I was unable to make the payment (in excess of $1000) due to the fact that I had not received a large payment that I had been expecting to receive from a sale that I had made. The buyer that I had made the deal with finally backed out after two nearly two months of negotiations, so please don't act like it hasn't happened to anyone other that you before, because If it didn't we wouldn't be in the situation and both of us would be happy. I told you that I was sorry for not being able to come through on the deal, but unlike others, I have more important financial priorities over collecting meteorites. 3. I understand that you had to take the extra time to relist your auctions. However, per Ebay policy, odds are you didn't loose any money as a result of this since no additional fees are charged to one's account if the unsold items sell the second time around. 4. Shame on you little boy Wow, very mature of you, Bob. At least I don't act like one. I am sorry that I had to go public with this, but I believe that it has importance so that others can avoid any similar experiences in the future. Thank you for your time. Ryan -Original Message- From: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 6, 2004 6:55 PM To: Meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED], RYAN PAWELSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Bash Bob Evans Day Ok, Here goes... The money order to Stefan was mailed out sometime in October last year. Why wait 9 months to bring it up here on the list? There were some inquiries that I responded to approx. 4 months after the payment was sent. Unfortunately Martin and Stefan dont want to forward my email responses. I should add that Stefan is a complete gentleman, and I never accused him of being fraudulent. Martin, If you have any proof of me accusing him of being fraudulent . please share it with the list ! Of course you cant , BECAUSE I NEVER DID ! By the way Martin. If I never responded to your inquiries , how did you know I accused him of being fraudulent? Can you read my mind ? As for Ryan He requested that I cancel approx. 8 to 10 meteorite ebay auctions ( which I did ) so that he may buy the whole lot. Then he waits one week and tells me that he wants his $125.00 deposit back. This obviously put me in a jam, anyone knows that I sell material to acquire new meteorites. So , I get pissed off and take my time refunding the money. Go ahead and shoot me!! Some Dealers would have told him to go to hell for wasting their time and would never have dealt with him again. So beware of Ryan he likes to have you cancel auctions, pay a deposit and then later back out and ask
[meteorite-list] Bash Bob Evans Day
Ok, Here goes... The money order to Stefan was mailed out sometime in October last year. Why wait 9 months to bring it up here on the list? There were some inquiries that I responded to approx. 4 months after the payment was sent. Unfortunately Martin and Stefan dont want to forward my email responses. I should add that Stefan is a complete gentleman, and I never accused him of being fraudulent. Martin, If you have any proof of me accusing him of being fraudulent . please share it with the list ! Of course you cant , BECAUSE I NEVER DID ! By the way Martin. If I never responded to your inquiries , how did you know I accused him of being fraudulent? Can you read my mind ? As for Ryan He requested that I cancel approx. 8 to 10 meteorite ebay auctions ( which I did ) so that he may buy the whole lot. Then he waits one week and tells me that he wants his $125.00 deposit back. This obviously put me in a jam, anyone knows that I sell material to acquire new meteorites. So , I get pissed off and take my time refunding the money. Go ahead and shoot me!! Some Dealers would have told him to go to hell for wasting their time and would never have dealt with him again. So beware of Ryan he likes to have you cancel auctions, pay a deposit and then later back out and ask for a refund. Shame on you little boy As for the other people Ive dealt with in my short time collecting, I want to say I appreciate all of the sales, trades, discussions etc. To name a few Mike Farmer, Dave Shultz, Steve Arnold Chgo., Michael Blood, Eric Olsen, Rob Wesel, Jim Schwade, Bob Cucciara, Bob Haag Ask them If I ever stiffed them on money. And please have a look at my ebay feedback user ID : maccers531 Sorry, no evidence of fraud there either. Thanks Bob Evans - Original Message - From: RYAN PAWELSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 5:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Explicite WARNING !! Bob Evans I must warn the list of Bob Evans as well. I was supposed to receive a $125 refund from Bob over a month ago and I still have not received my money back, nor have I recieved a response from him after several email and phone call attempts. Well, I checked his Ebay history a few days ago and noticed that he had placed a $1500 bid on a meteorite not too long ago, yet he cannot afford to return my hard-earned money back to me? Never again! I warn everyone else not to do any business with Bob Evans. His unprofessionalism is a joke. Ryan -Original Message- From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 6, 2004 7:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Explicite WARNING !! Bob Evans Hello list! Great stone - always a pleasure to watch the meteorite of the day at Spacerocksinc! As nice as the specimen may be, the owner isn't. I never did this before and hope not to have to do it in future, but I have to warn everyone on this list to make business with Bob Evans. Bob Evans ordered from wellknown list member Stefan Ralew last autumn meteorites for 1000$. Stefan sent the specimens, but they aren't paid until today. Bob Evans stated to have sent a money order, but it never arrived. Well a letter always can be lost in mail and with checks or money orders it's really no problem to block it and to issue a new one. Instead of this Bob Evans claimed, that Stefan recieved the money (he didn't). Each bank can verify easy, whether a check was cashed. It's a question of a few minutes. Bob Evans refused to ask at his bank, kept the stones and continues to claim Stefan to be fraudulent. This is a completely improper behaviour and in my eyes the meteorite community just has no need for such persons. You may think, that this is not my cup of tea, but I know Stefan to be of modest character, so that he never would address to the list in that case. I wrote also to Evans personnally with no reactions. 1000$ are quite a sum and we all know Stefan for his efforts to offer meteorites of outstanding quality at extreme low prices. With this mail I want to preserve both collectors and dealers from similar experiences with Mr.Bob Evans. So: Please don't sell to or trade with Bob Evans, nor bid on his auctions (ID: maccers531) until he will have solved that situation. To avoid misunderstandings: Spacerocksinc has nothing to do with that thing. Thanks a lot! Martin Altmann - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 12:06 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - July 6, 2004 http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/July_6.html IMCA#5184 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 099
Are you sure you didnt give it away ?? - Original Message - From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 6:36 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 099 Hi list.Does anyone have any NWA 099? I seem to have lost my piece.I cannot find it anywhere.I have never lost a specimen before.I would be looking for an individual if possible.Please let me know. steve arnold, chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2 for 1 and half off pre-summer meteorite sale
Huh? 2 for 1 , 2 sales with add ons? half off the 3rd sale ? What 3rd sale? No weights ! Steve, what the hell are you trying to do here? BE - Original Message - From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 7:43 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] 2 for 1 and half off pre-summer meteorite sale Good morning list.I decided to for today and tomorrow,have 2 for 1 sale with 2 sales and add-on's,and half off the 3rd sale.Here goes nothin': -- - 1.MONZE and NWA 002 $50.00 2.NWA 980 and NWA 236 $40.00 3.SETH WARD and FORREST 002 $60.00 4.ETTER (HUSS #) and NWA 1935 $70.00 5.NWA 787(INDIVIDUAL)/NANTAN$60.00 6.PAMPA(B)/(2) SIKOTE-ALINS $30.00 7.OAK/RIO LIMAY/OXFORD $40.00 8.NWA 001/GLADSTONE $25.00 9.NWA 1945/NWA 1908 $30.00 10.SANDY CREEK/GOMEZ$25.00 11.QUERETARO/NWA 1280 $30.00 12.NWA 984/TARBAGATI$20.00 13.NWA 2086.SAH 00152 $30.00 14.LONG ISLAND/MT.TAZERZAIT $25.00 15.NWA 1792/ROUND SPRINGS $35.00 There is that 2 for 1 sale.The 3rd part of the sale,all is half price.Let me know what I can do for you.I have pictures of some of this stuff.Also rikers will come with some of these specimens.Good hunting! steve arnold, chicago,usa! = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad - auctions ending tonight. Camel Donga, Zagami, Holbrook Etc.
I have several auctions ending tonight. Still well below market value. Camel Donga individual Zagami Holbrook individual Park Forest Etc. Have a look: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=maccers531include=0since=-1sort=3rows=50 Thanks for the bids ! Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: Ad - auctions ending tonight. Camel Donga, Zagami, Holbrook Etc.
- Original Message - From: Comcast Mail To: Meteorite list Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 7:13 AM Subject: Ad - auctions ending tonight. Camel Donga, Zagami, Holbrook Etc. I have several auctions ending tonight. Still well below market value. Camel Donga individual Zagami Holbrook individual Park Forest Etc. Have a look: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=maccers531include=0since=-1sort=3rows=50 Thanks for the bids ! Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: Ad - auctions ending tonight. Camel Donga, Zagami, Holbrook Etc.
- Original Message - From: Comcast Mail To: Meteorite list Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 7:13 AM Subject: Ad - auctions ending tonight. Camel Donga, Zagami, Holbrook Etc. I have several auctions ending tonight. Still well below market value. Camel Donga individual Zagami Holbrook individual Park Forest Etc. Have a look: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=maccers531include=0since=-1sort=3rows=50 Thanks for the bids ! Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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[meteorite-list] Fw: Ad - auctions ending tonight. Camel Donga, Zagami, Holbrook Etc.
- Original Message - From: Comcast Mail To: Meteorite list Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 7:13 AM Subject: Ad - auctions ending tonight. Camel Donga, Zagami, Holbrook Etc. I have several auctions ending tonight. Still well below market value. Camel Donga individual Zagami Holbrook individual Park Forest Etc. Have a look: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=maccers531include=0since=-1sort=3rows=50 Thanks for the bids ! Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: Camel Donga 27 gram ind. for $50
- Original Message - From: Comcast Mail To: Meteorite list Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 3:52 PM Subject: Camel Donga 27 gram ind. for $50 Ok, So now that I have your attention Please take a moment and have a look at my beautiful 27 gram Camel Donga individual that is on ebay (currently at $ 51.00 ) among others , Zagami, Holbrook, etc. See here : http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=maccers531include=0since=-1sort=3rows=50 Thanks Bob Evans
[meteorite-list] Camel Donga Ebay Ad
Happy Easter everyone, Anyone looking for a nice blackCamel Donga individual, have a look at mine on ebay It is an exceptionally nice specimen with great crust and shape. And it was originally acquired from the Western Australian Museum complete with museum label. See here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2237140938 Thanks Bob Evans
[meteorite-list] Ad : Camel Donga, Holbrook, Park Forest , Zagami
I have a few nice meteorites up for auction. Camel Donga Zagami Holbrook Park Forest, etc. Have a look: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=maccers531include=0since=-1sort=3rows=50 Thanks Bob Evans
[meteorite-list] Collection Sale
I am downsizing some of my collection and have the following available: Zagami .408 grams Holbrook individual 9.63 grams 98% crusted Camel Donga 27.4 gram Fully crusted individual with Western Australian Museum Label Jilin 135 Gram fragment with crust El Hammami 124 Grams Slice with Beautiful metal veins and crusted edge Johnson City 29.56 gram Slice with crusted edge Sikhote Alin Large 1,821 regmaglypted individual Park Forest micro and impact debris set with pictures from Phil Jones residence in Olympia Fields , Illinois. See pictures here: http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spacerox2001/album?.dir=/832e.src=""> Iam primarily interested in selling the whole lot for $2050.00 If interested paypal to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] The first to paypal gets the collection. Shipping is free inside the US. Thanks Bob Evans
[meteorite-list] Park Forest Auction ending tonight
List, I have several pristine larger park forest meteorites ending tonight on ebay: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=maccers531include=0since=-1sort=3rows=50 They arent cheap , but higher quality never is. Ive been searching the entire strewnfield profusely for a year with no new finds, which only reinforces the value of the meteorites from the most incredible fall that we will probably ever see in our lifetime. Bob Evans
[meteorite-list] Park Forest Meteorites Up For Auction
Hello, I have some nice big , fresh pieces of Park Forest up for auction on ebay Have a look : http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=maccers531include=0since=-1sort=3rows=50 Thanks Bob Evans
[meteorite-list] Park Forest Strewnfield map
Does anyone have a link to the most current Park Forest strewnfield map, showing the impacts? Thanks Bob Evans
[meteorite-list] Park Forest Impacts
I just talked to a guy who hunts PF with me and we both agree that all the ground impacts that were found by us were on an angle from the north to the south. The biggest one found was 1.2 Kilo and the angle of impact was consistent with the others. Does anyone have any knowlege of other ground impact finds? and if they also impacted the soil on an angle , coming in from the north. This is consistent with the winslow street impact also. It hit the street and sprayed the houses on the south side of the street Thanks Bob Evans
[meteorite-list] Park Forest House Impact Fragment for sale
I have a Park Forest meteorite fragment from a house that was impacted in Olympia Fields, Illinois up for auction on ebay ending tomorrow night. The fragment is mounted in a riker mount and a piece of the kitchen flooring is also included in the riker.There is also a copy of the newspaper article detailing the house impact with pictures from the house that I took when I met with the owner and purchased all of the fragments last year. It's a nice piece of history and wouldmake agreat additionto any collection. Have a look: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2231381144category=3239
[meteorite-list] Fw: Park Forest House Impact Fragment for sale
This message never made it to the list. The auction ends tonight. Thanks! - Original Message - From: Comcast Mail To: Meteorite list Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 10:22 PM Subject: Park Forest House Impact Fragment for sale I have a Park Forest meteorite fragment from a house that was impacted in Olympia Fields, Illinois up for auction on ebay ending tomorrow night. The fragment is mounted in a riker mount and a piece of the kitchen flooring is also included in the riker.There is also a copy of the newspaper article detailing the house impact with pictures from the house that I took when I met with the owner and purchased all of the fragments last year. It's a nice piece of history and wouldmake agreat additionto any collection. Have a look: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2231381144category=3239
[meteorite-list] Fw: Fwd: Telephone Scam Warning
- Original Message - From: ROBERTA EVANS-SHORTALL To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 5:43 PM Subject: FW: Fwd: Telephone Scam Warning From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Werner/Mary), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tammy), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberta), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paula), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Maureen), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linda Kantner), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joyce), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gina) Subject: Fwd: Telephone Scam Warning Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:12:02 + --Forwarded Message:- From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: Telephone Scam Warning Date:Sat, 13 Mar 2004 11:57:25 EST One-click access to Hotmail from any Web page download MSN Toolbar now! In a message dated 3/12/2004 8:04:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PASS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW I received a telephone call last evening from an individual identifying himself as an ATT Service technician who was conducting a test on telephone lines. He stated that to complete the test I should touch nine(9), zero(0), the pound sign (#), and then hang up. Luckily, I was suspicious and refused. Upon contacting the telephone company, I was informed that by pushing 90#, you give the requesting individual full access to your telephone line, which enables them to place long distance calls billed to your home phone number. I was further informed that this scam has been originating from many local jails/prisons. I have also verified this information with UCB Telecom,Pacific Bell, MCI,! Bell Atlantic and GTE. Please beware. DO NOT press 90# for ANYONE. The GTE Security Department requested that I share this information with EVERYONE I KNOW. If you have mailing lists and/or newsletters from organizations you are connected with, I encourage you to pass on this information to them. After checking with Verizon they said it was true, so do not dial (9),zero(0), the pound sign # and hang up for anyone. *PLEASE PASS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW ---BeginMessage--- PASS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW I received a telephone call last evening from an individual identifying himself as an ATT Service technician who was conducting a test on telephone lines. He stated that to complete the test I should touch nine(9), zero(0), the pound sign (#), and then hang up. Luckily, I was suspicious and refused. Upon contacting the telephone company, I was informed that by pushing 90#, you give the requesting individual full access to your telephone line, which enables them to place long distance calls billed to your home phone number. I was further informed that this scam has been originating from many local jails/prisons. I have also verified this information with UCB Telecom,Pacific Bell, MCI,! Bell Atlantic and GTE. Please beware. DO NOT press 90# for ANYONE. The GTE Security Department requested that I share this information with EVERYONE I KNOW. If you have mailing lists and/or newsletters from organizations you are connected with, I encourage you to pass on this information to them. After checking with Verizon they said it was true, so do not dial (9),zero(0), the pound sign # and hang up for anyone. *PLEASE PASS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW ---End Message---
[meteorite-list] Amgala Meteorite
I just received my Amgala meteorite from Mike Farmer. These are absolutely awesome specimens. Nice thick black crust and no weathering at all. I urge anyone who hasnt gotten one from Mike, to get one before he runs out! Thanks Mike Bob Evans
[meteorite-list] Looking for Nininger meteorite
Hello, Im lookingto purchasea stone individual ( any size , any find ) with Nininger #'s and I.D. card If you have any please email me off list Thanks Bob Evans
Re: [meteorite-list] Wilcox Playa- Thanks
Thats a pretty good Idea. Maybe we can hear some stories about strewnfield hunts, witnessed falls, expeditions, meteorite hunters personal finds,upcoming expeditions and hunts. I purchased a video from Mike Farmer documenting his Meteorite hunting and it was very interesting.It was in Japanese but you can catch some english dialog in the backgroundand I still recommend it to anyone.The video was primarily filmed in Morocco ( I believe ) and it shows alot of the hunting grounds in the desert. I was surprised to see the amount of stones that were in the desert. It atleast gives the people who cant get to Africa a chance to see what they are missing. Bob E. - Original Message - From: Rex To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wilcox Playa- Thanks Maybe everyone who responded might want to share it with the whole list too. Personally, I would rather read aboutthe Wilcox playa then who had the better price when or what ever the hell uhahahah means. Rex :Þ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 6:26 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Wilcox Playa- Thanks Thanks for your responses. printstodd
[meteorite-list] PF house Impact fragment for sale
Hello, I have a Park Forest house impact fragment up for sale, along with impact debris and photos etc. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2228358144 Thanks Bob E.
[meteorite-list] Fw: Park Forest Strewnfield report
- Original Message - From: Comcast Mail To: Meteorite list Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 7:14 PM Subject: Park Forest Strewnfield report I just got back from hunting Park Forest and Olympia fields. Two days of hunting mostly forested areas and no new finds. The forests are 95% covered with leaves. It is easier to work through the forests though, considering the lack of growth compared to spring and summer. I used a metal detector through most of the forests. If anyone plans on hunting the forests with a metal detector, plan on it going off every few yards as there is alot of trash buried below the soil. And alot of times when the detector detected metal I couldn't dig deep enough because alot of the ground is frozen still. Which is really pointless anyways considering the meteorites shouldnt be buried in soil. Unfortunately a metal detector is necessary , unless you plan on checking under every leaf. Its the same if you are trying to Identify impact pits. The Forest is wall to wall leaves. I visited with a couple of locals that I know who still hunt, and they havent found any new pieces since last summer. Oh well, if anyone has plans to hunt the forests, any new finds will be sheer luck. Bob Evans
[meteorite-list] Fw: Fish Tank Meteorite on ebay
- Original Message - From: Comcast Mail To: Meteorite list Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 7:56 PM Subject: Fish Tank Meteorite on ebay List, Check this one out ! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2229378184category=3239 Read item description : " Its been sitting in my fishtank for years " Bob Evans
[meteorite-list] Park Forest Strewnfield report
I just got back from hunting Park Forest and Olympia fields. Two days of hunting mostly forested areas and no new finds. The forests are 95% covered with leaves. It is easier to work through the forests though, considering the lack of growth compared to spring and summer. I used a metal detector through most of the forests. If anyone plans on hunting the forests with a metal detector, plan on it going off every few yards as there is alot of trash buried below the soil. And alot of times when the detector detected metal I couldn't dig deep enough because alot of the ground is frozen still. Which is really pointless anyways considering the meteorites shouldnt be buried in soil. Unfortunately a metal detector is necessary , unless you plan on checking under every leaf. Its the same if you are trying to Identify impact pits. The Forest is wall to wall leaves. I visited with a couple of locals that I know who still hunt, and they havent found any new pieces since last summer. Oh well, if anyone has plans to hunt the forests, any new finds will be sheer luck. Bob Evans
[meteorite-list] Fish Tank Meteorite on ebay
List, Check this one out ! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2229378184category=3239 Read item description : " Its been sitting in my fishtank for years " Bob Evans
[meteorite-list] Meteorite House Impact on ebay
Hello List, I have a fragment of a stone that fell through a roof of ahome inOlympia Fields, Illinois for auction on ebay ending today. The auction includes a piece of the kitchen floor ( mounted in a riker mount ),a copy of the news article, photos of the ceiling and kitchen floor and a signed affidavit. Have a look: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2226654106category=3239
[meteorite-list] Allende on Ebay
Wow, I'm going to be rich !!! Iv'e got about $20,000 of this stuff right outside my backdoor. And now I know there are people willing to buy it ! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2225807035category=3239sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AITrd=1 Bob Evans
[meteorite-list] Tucson Experience and Photos
Hello, Just got back from my first time to the Tucson show. What an experience! More meteorites than one can imagine. Mike Farmers room is the one to go to if you are looking for premium stuff, Mike and Eric Olsen have the best material for sale . and believe me I went to every dealer. By the way... thanks for the dinner Mike! I want to thank Steve Arnold ( Chicago ) For helping me get acquainted with everything, Steve still is one of the nicest and passionate collectors that I know. I owe you one. Dave Schultz and Bob Cucciara for driving me all over town ( If you go to the show. make sure you get a rental car , otherwise bring a couple of hundred dollars extra just for cabs). It was a pleasure to meet EricOlsen, Jim Strope, Bob Holmes, John Gwilliam, Mexico Doug, Edwin Thompson, Mr.and Mrs.Kilgore, Bliane Reed, TheHupe's, and Eduardo. Allare a bunch of world class people. I want to thank Iris and Al Lang. They are great people to meet. I want to say that Al Lang is projected as an unfriendly person but he surely was the opposite. He was one of the kindest and friendliest people that you will meet there. Well, take a look at some of the photos. http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spacerox2001/album?.dir=/afe5 I'll see ya all next year! Bob Evans
[meteorite-list] Ebay Ad -Estherville, Abu Moharek
I have a few auctions ending tonight. A slice of Estherville, nice colorful slice of Abu moharek loaded with chondrules, and a Park Forest Ind. ending tomorrow night. All currently at give away prices. http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=maccers531include=0since=-1sort=3rows=50 Thanks Bob Evans
[meteorite-list] Park Forest Auction
Hello List, I am having my own silent auction. I have several perfect Park Forest specimens that I personally found on Winslow st. in Park Forest the first day, with the exception of the 9.1 gram fragment from the stone that fell through a home in Olympia fields. All are in pristine condition. I found them all laying in the street, never touched by anyone other than myself. And of course never rained on. These will make a nice addition to anyones collection. If you are interested, please email me privately with your highest offer. I will let you know if you are the winner, or if you have been outbid. Payment will only be accepted through paypal , and piece will not be reserved until payment is made. See here: http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spacerox2001/album?.dir=/Park+forest+Frags+Saleurlhint=actn,ren%3as,1%3af,0 Thanks Bob Evans
[meteorite-list] Ad: Park Forest Individual , Estherville Slice,Etc.
Hello List, Thanks for putting up with my ads. I have listed a Park Forest Individual ( small but nice ) and also a nice slice of Estherville, Abu Moharek, etc. Please see the link : http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=maccers531include=0since=-1sort=3rows=50 Thanks, Bob Evans
[meteorite-list] Park Forest , Estherville, etc. ebay auctions ending tonight
I have some auctions ending tonight on ebay. Bensour, Abu Moharek, Estherville, Udei station, Park Forest house smasher fragment, etc. See Here: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=maccers531include=0since=-1sort=3rows=50 Thanks and have a good day! Bob Evans
[meteorite-list] Ebay Ad- Park Forest , Estherville Etc.
Good Evening List, I listed specimens of Park Forest , Bensour, Estherville , Abu Moharek, Ultra rare New Halfa, etc. on ebay this evening. Please see the following link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2218037873 Thanks, Bob Evans
