Re: [meteorite-list] SOMETHING COOL IN MY CV3
Hi Dean ... from the replies I don't think the 7mm chondrule just beneath the crust was noticed Michael M - Original Message - From: dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 8:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] SOMETHING COOL IN MY CV3 Look here? http://www.meteoriteshop.com/sales/chon7mm.htm Not sure what it is but these are cool photos anyway so take a look. If I cant find anybody to buy this I plan on cutting into it to see what it is like and if I do will send everybody photos of whatever it looks like cut. So will somebody save this poor hapless chondrule from my say. Somebody send me $500 for it. Cheers DEAN __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Campo del Cielo data sought
Hi list Reason for the question: I am a co-author of the paper Myth and catastrophic reality: Using cosmogonic mythology to identify cosmic impacts and massive plinian eruptions in Holocene South America. A invited presentation for the symposium, Myth and Geology, 32nd Geological Congress, to be submitted later this month in Florence, Italy THE QUESTION: Can anyone with direct knowledge confirm these 1999-recent recoveries were made within the 80 km strewn field identified in: Cassidy W A, Villar L M, Bunch T E, Kohman T P, Milton D J, 1965. Meteorites and craters of Campo del Cielo, Argentina. Science, Vol 149, No. 3688, 1055-1064? If outside the known field an approximate distance would be appreciated. Thank you, Michael J Masse __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Warning About Libyan Desert Glass Artifacts
I had understood that Libyan glass Paleolithic tools are found in what is now arid regions of Libya . What does Egypt have to do with it? If I recall correctly, several of our members have found/purchased bulk meteorites, NWAs, etc., have also brought back artifacts and I'm sure they didn't dash into Egypt to acquire them. Please correct me if Paleolithic Libyan glass tools acquired in Libya and Morocco are 'Egyptian' artifacts. Michael M - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 6:40 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Warning About Libyan Desert Glass Artifacts Last Saturday evening, I showed a professional archaeologist friend, who is a member of ROPA*; has worked in Egypt; and interested in meteorites, the June issue of Meteorite Times. As an archaeologist, she was quite surprised and even shocked to see pictures of Egyptian artifacts made from Libyan Desert Glass displayed on the Tektite of the Month- Libyan Desert Glass Artifacts/ web page at: . http://www.meteoritetimes.com/current_links/Tektite_of_Month.htm . She was shocked because the buying, selling, and ownership of Egyptian artifacts, including those composed of Libyan Desert Glass, which have illegally exported from Egypt since 1970 is regarded by both the U.S. Customs Service and the Egyptian government as a crime. Should either the Egyptian government or the US Customs Service decide to go after a person, he or she can be prosecuted for either selling, buying, or even owning illicit artifacts. . In her opinion, it is quite possible that all of the Libyan Desert Glass (LDG) artifacts found in the United States in private ownership has been illegally exported from Egypt. She argues, that is because in 1970, Egypt passed a law making the export of any prehistoric artifact without an export license illegal. It was also in 1970 that both the United States and Egypt signed the 1970 UNESCO Convention on the Means of Prohibiting and Preventing the Illicit Import, Export and Transfer of Ownership of Cultural Property Soon after that, enabling legislation, the Convention on Cultural Property Implementation Act was passed by the Congress and signed into law by the President. This made the 1970 UNESCO legally enforceable. As a result, any prehistoric artifact exported after 1970 without an official Egyptian export permit became either illegal to either sell, buy, or own in the United States. . From her experience in Egypt, she is quite certain that was quite impossible for anyone to have legally obtained a permit from the Egyptian Department of Antiquities for the export of any LDG artifacts for either resale to others or their own personal collections. (She has sent some emails to friends in the Supreme Council of Antiquities to find out if any such permits had been issued by some chance.) Thus, according to her opinion, any LDG artifact exported from Egypt after 1970 was likely exported illegally. Given that the LDG strewn field wasn't revisited by even scientists until well after 1970, she believes that just about every LDG artifact currently in private collections in the United States was illegally exported. The practical aspect of this is that any person, who owns a LDG artifact, but lacks documentation verifying that the artifact was either exported legally or it was collected before 1970, might be, in addition to having their LDG artifacts seized, open to prosecution by the U.S. Customs Service for trafficking in or possession of illicit artifacts. . Her personal advice to me was not to buy any Libyan Desert Glass (LDG) artifact(s) that lacked the proper official documentation indicating that it was either legally exported or exported before 1970. Otherwise, if the Customs Service decided crack down on the illegal trafficking in Egyptian artifacts, it might be easy for them to make the case, as discussed above, that any LDG artifact is in the United States illegally unless I could prove otherwise. Also, it would cause me lots of grief if the person, who sold a LDG artifact to me, copped a plea by turning over to them a list of persons, whom he or she sold the artifacts to, along with the name of his supplier of LDG artifacts. This isn't an unheard of possibility given that the Egyptian Supreme Council of Antiquities has created Dept. of Stolen Artifacts in order to seek out what they consider to be stolen artifacts and by whatever legal means possible force their owners to return them return them to Egypt. Examples of this is discussed in: . 1. Egypt reclaims stolen antiquities http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/arts/2115607.stm . No matter how significant or insignificant a relic is, we will have lawyers everywhere to return our antiquities, said Dr Hawass. . 2. The Egyptian curse By Zahi Hawass http://www.guardians.net/hawass/articles/Egyptian_Curse.htm . (Note my friend has worked with and knows Dr. Hawass quite well. She should know what she is talking about.) . I believe
Re: [meteorite-list] Looking for Michael Masse
Hi Christian (and 'list') ... yes I am out there [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Finally had to change my email address - too much spam - Original Message - From: Christian Anger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 1:37 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Looking for Michael Masse Hi all, I am trying to contact Mr. Michael Masse, but I always get back a mail system error. Can anyone help me to get in contact with him or Michael, are you out there ? best wishes, Christian IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sliced and etched Sikhote-Alin available ???
Hi ... seeking a nice slice of Sikhote-Alin polished and etched (if it takes an etch) ... anyone? Dealers welcome ... Thank you, Michael M
[meteorite-list] Glassface email address
For anyone interested the email address for Glassface is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [meteorite-list] List Status - from the Admin
Hi Art ... welcome back ...a personal thanks for your time and patience in maintaining the 'list' service. I appreciate and enjoy it and even forits brief down-time - it was missed.. Thanks and Best regards, Michael M. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 8:08 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] List Status - from the Admin Good Morning All; The List is back up after experiencing some DNS server issues yesterday. Best Regards, Art
[meteorite-list] Begga
Hi 'list' ... Has Begga (LL3?) been formally classified yet ? Thanks, Michael M
Re: [meteorite-list] A Recent Set Of Ebay Aucitons
Hi List ... as a recent successful bidder on one of Serge's auctions I completely agree with Al. I have made numerous purchases from his web site and have never had a problem. Serge will be a participating dealer at the Denver show. There is a fraud currently on ebay : item # 2189101133 is a direct rip-off of finmet's recent fine auction # 2186394811. Michael M - Original Message - From: almitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 7:14 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] A Recent Set Of Ebay Aucitons To all, Recently a seller known to me posted a bunch of items on ebay. This seller had a zero rating and was new to eBay. I have dealt with this company before and have only heard good things about them and that they do their own hunting for the material they have. Included in these listing were a number of lunar specimens that are listed in the Meteoritical Bulletins. I just received notification from eBay that in investigation of this seller is taking place and that I may wish to hold off sending payment for my winning bids. I know for a new user they sold a bunch of material but they had a lot of nice material to begin with and items I wouldn't have minded buying. If anyone knows the details of what is going on and wants to send me an email or send one to the list as there were other list members that bid on these items I would be interested in what might be the reason for the suspension of this seller. Many auctions shot up real high for the material being sold at the last minute and I certainly did my part to bid high the last remaining few minutes and saw others do the same. Perhaps this is the basis for ebays concern. All my best! --AL Mitterling __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dealer Refunds
On more than several occasions I have originally paid a price for a specimen that was satisfactory between a dealer and myself and subsequently found it for less. At no time would I even consider I had any right to a refund. Michael Masse - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 7:59 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Dealer Refunds Hello List,I have an ethical question I would like to get some feedback on.I just got a request from a customer that I give him a refund for a specimen he purchased a month or so ago from me that he wants to return now. His request was not based on the fact that the specimen was damaged or otherwise in a different condition than described when it was sold to him.The request he felt was justified because he thinks the specimen is now not worth as much as he paid for it bach then. He seems to think he can get the same thing for a lower price elsewhere. So I assume he wants the refund to go buy the other cheaper specimen to replace the one he wants to give back to me.While I do guarantee authenticity and that the specimens are as described on all my specimens I sell, I do not have a Walmart style lowest price guarantee, that the person cannot find a similar specimen somewhere else in the present or in the future for a lower price. If someone bought something and didn't like it for whatever reason and wanted to return it promptly for a refund, that would be one thing but this is another.I find this refund request unreasonable and bordering on unethical. A similar but opposite request would be if I would contact buyers a month after I sold them a specimen and demanded that they let me buy back a specimen I sold them a month earlier because new information tells me that I sold it to them too cheap and that if I had it back at the price I sold it, I could turn around and sell it to someone for an even higher price. That request would be absurd.As I recall, there is just one dealer that offers a written lifetime guarantee to buy back any specimens at the customers purchase prices. However, one would expect that having a stated guarantee such as that would help such a dealer to generate more than enough extra sales to cover the losses when a meteorite genuinely drops in value and a few people decide to take that dealer up on his offer. But without offering that incentive to make all the extra sales along the way, a dealer could go bankrupt giving refunds on demand for price fluctuation reasons.I guess my question is, how would some of the other dealers respond to such a request? Has anyone had such a request nade if them? And for collectors out there, do you feel making such a request (and expecting it to be fulfilled) is reasonable? Would a direct purchase be different from an ebay purchase?Steve Arnold
[meteorite-list] Specimens sought
Hi 'List' Seeking macros or slices of 2 breccias: L3-4, L/LL3-6 Seeking macros, micros, or fragments L7 transitionals H/L5, H/L6, LL4/5, LL5/6 breccias L4-5, L/LL5-6, LL4-5 Thanks for any help, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [meteorite-list] stolen lunar meteorites
My thoughts: The gov regularly sells at auction all manner of objects and the final price bears no relationship to the price the gov paid. Priceless has $ value - the bidder decides. Lunar material would have to sell at auction to establish a market value. As a collector I would have no interest in the 113g UNLESS unequilibrated meteoritic material were offered; such is my specific collecting interest (however, if unequilibrated material was available I would ravage my credit cards and still loose to any collector with serious bidding interest) . So for value I suggest dealers who remain in touch with the 'great' collections canvass their owners with the hypothetical. The value would remain static or decrease over time as industrial development of the moon would effectively create a NWA syndrome. This is not investment material. A fragment of ALH84001 on the other hand (If the collector is convinced that evidence of life has in fact been found in this specimen) would find a much larger field of bidders who, I suspect, would 'shoot the moon' to acquire this first evidence. Michael M __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites/Meteoroids/Mictometeorites First Day Covers / Event Covers sought
Hi 'List' ... Seeking: First Day Coversfeaturing meteorite stamps Event Covers including All Antartic covers of ANSMET, Planetary Studies Foundation, and other meteorite search expeditions Micrometeorite / Meteoroid study satellite launch covers including Explorer 45, (Congradulations to 'the Big Collector' on your recent Hoba FDC acquisition) Michael M
[meteorite-list] Where is the Steve Arnold of I.M.B. ?
Hi 'List' Doesanyone know if the Steve Arnold from the firm of International Meteorite Brokerage is still in business? I have been unable contact him since September. Thank you in advance, Michael M
[meteorite-list] Has anybody read?
Hi List ... Has anyone who has read Meteorites: Flux With Time and Impact Effects (Geological Society Special Publication Series, 140) by M. M. Grady (Editor) willing to comment on it; i.e. should I shell out the bucks? Thanks, Michael M
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Contest #8...Free Canyon Diablo
Title: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Contest #8...Free Canyon Diablo I would love to follow in Martin's footsteps, help him load up even why? Even after he razes each place there should be enough left for a instantly fabulous collection ... but we would also have to visit Japan's Antarctic collection Michael M - Original Message - From: Martin Horejsi To: MARK BOSTICK ; Meteorite List Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Contest #8...Free Canyon Diablo Mark Kindly asked:If you could go meteorite hunting anywhere in the world, where would you go and why? Hmmm Mark, If I could hunt meteorites anywhere in the world, and keep what I found, I would start at the Smithsonian, then the British Natural History Museum, then the American Museum of Natural History, then the Vienna Museum. I would like to make a couple other stops along the way at Bob Haags house, Jim Schwades place, and maybe Hupe Brothers basement (actually their safe deposit box but you know what I mean).Oh, and why? Duh.Cheers,Martin
[meteorite-list] Araona Crater (Iturralde Structure) in Bolivia
NASA has an interesting web site on the work currently being done at Araona Crater (Iturralde Structure) in Bolivia ... some archieved video and a live cam uplink tomorrow http://www.blueiceonline.org/ Michael M
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritic Misadventure
Pleased to hear that you too use a stopwatch when bidding on desired specimens...sorry you missed...m - Original Message - From: Bernd Pauli HD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 1:45 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteoritic Misadventure Hello All! I think I should have waited for another of Mark's contests, but, ... I would like to share this with you. Last night I was watching one of Philippe Thomas' EBay items - a superb chondritic specimen, weighing about half a kilogram ... a veritable dream of a regmaglypted meteorite. One side was showing a rusty brown, weathered fusion crust, the other half was almost dark and fresh with what looked like flow lines! ... and those regmaglypts! Part of the crust was broken away and seemed to show a secondary crust. Oh boy (and gals :-), how I envy the one who got it !!! In any case, there I was ... sitting with a stop watch in my hands :-)) (believe it or not) placing my bid amount of US$ 120 in the last few seconds when I suddenly got an Ebay message with something like Having trouble with your bid amount. I had so very much concentrated on that !*§$! stop watch that should make it possible for me to win that item that I forgot that other bidders would raise the bidding amount during the last few seconds ... :-) :-( :-) :-( :-) :-( Moral: You can't always win, or: A stitch in time saves nine (No, not always) ... No further comments, and, no pun intended, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Flooding in Europe
We have a big flood catastrophy in Europe and in Austria. I live in a town which lies on the big river Danube. It has come out of his bed. Many people lost their home and everything they had. I am out to help. All the best from Austria, Christian I view withsadness and offer my best wishes to all of our European brothers during this time of personal and public loss. May you all remain safe. in respect, Michael
[meteorite-list] Seeking specimens from the newly classified
Hi 'List' Seeking specimens from the newly classified : NWA 1222 (EL5) Dho 416 (L[LL]3) Dho 428 (H[L]5) Dho 472 (LL3) NWA 1227 (LL3) Dag 964 (H3.9) Dho 281 (L3.8) Dho 361 (H3) Dho 364 (H3) Dho 474 (H3) Dho 483 (H3) NWA 828 (H3) NWA844 (H3) NWA 847 (H3) NWA 855 (H3.8) NWA 864 (L3) NWA866 (L3) NWA 1207 (H3) NWA 1212 (H3) NWA1233 (L3.7) Love those '3's, Michael M
[meteorite-list] Re: TAZA
Hi ... and Thank you Matteo, Tom, Ron, Frank, Jim, and Mike - Original Message - From: Michael Masse To: Meteorite-List Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 9:36 AM Subject: TAZA Hi 'List' ... seeking a small etched slice of TAZA...? Thank you, Michael M
Re: [meteorite-list] TAZA
and of course Thank you David...Michael - Original Message - From: David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Masse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] TAZA Hello Michael, I got a fine small etched slice from Scott Brey at a reasonable price with excellent service. Check him out before you buy. http://www.planetbrey.com/ David __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Chinguetti
.discovered the Chinguetti anomaly! In gentle decay, dave Hi all ... digressing slightly... appearingabove isthe trigger word : Chinguetti... I, and least one other collector, amactively seeking specimen/s from this Stony-Iron ... anybody anywhere??? David Weir would love to acquire a specimen to share on his excellent site and I am attempting to complete a 'type' set ... Thanks, Michael Masse _ My GHWonder what would happen if we got near with a meteorite cane. Do you think(s)he causes local magnetic anomalies? Bury the person in the Sahara andthey'll think they've discovered the Chinguetti anomaly!I just wish I could think of a snappy caption but I just can;t!dave--In gentle decay,daveIMCA #0092
[meteorite-list] A New Use for Gold Basin
Hi 'List' Stumbled across this site... they even offer a "Attractor Pull" that will differentiate between Stony and Iron meteorites (for only $9.95 including postage and handling) ... the Meteorite Pain Relief includes chain ... http://www.moneymountainmining.com/ Have fun, Michael M
[meteorite-list] Auction results sought
Hi 'List'I have recently acquired a number of Natural History auction catalogs,containing fossil, minerals, meteorites, and other critters...severalare without 'auction prices realized' and I am hoping that fellow listmembers can provide these missing data...The following companies anddates sought are:BONHAMS 8th April, 1994BUTTERFIELDS 31st October, 1999PHILLIPS 11th January, 1998 17th May, 1998also seeking other catalogs, with 'prices realized' that I do notyet possess including:BONHAMS Apr 20, 1995BUTTERFIELDS (all earlier than Feb 14, 1999) Jan 23. 2000 Jan 21, 2001 Jun 24, 2001PHILLIPS June 1994 (and earlier) December 1995SOUTHEBY'S Oct 4, 1997 (Sue) _Thank youMichael Masse[EMAIL PROTECTED]
