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You wrote:
>It may have been only the less energetic
>vaporization of the 5% to 8% of the
>meteorite that was troilite that was the
>"bright flash" rather then the vaporization
>of the entire stone. Still, that alone would
>have been enough to shatter the impactor
>What was it?
I didn't ask the obvious followup. It took ages to get a simple yes or
no answer to the first question. All I know is that it wasn't a
meteorite.
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Finally got an answer: It was not a meteorite.
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I don't know about anyone else, but when I click on
www.meteoritetimes.com to check the list rules, I get taken to
Bettingways: Your Online Gambling Guide:-(. Now THATS spam
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Hi all,
Larry wrote:
>By the way, they had never heard of
>the (very good) suggestion that a
>person touching a very cold meteorite
>may actually think that the burning
>sensation is heat and not cold.
The testimony of a young witness to Forest City
certainly provides fo
Hello Robert and list,
Robert wrote:
>"If you touch something that is
>extremely cold (such as dry ice), you
>feel a burning sensation. Too much cold
>becomes too hot."
Robert further wrote:
>I wonder if people who claim that
>meteorites were hot to the touch,
Michael wrote:
>.I also will drop all this unless I am
>called names again like Charlie Devine
>and now Nelson Oaks did.
Michael, Geoff, list:
Just for the record, I did not call you ANY names Michael. I referred
to your "guilty until proven innocent" ap
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Hello Iris,
Thanks for th
Hello Iris,
Thanks for the update. I like to think that most listmembers know
better then to pay attention to the rantings of Greg Hupe or Mike
Farmer.
Best,
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This cannot be a witnessed fall?
A crash is heard in the trees and 2 days later a meteorite as fresh as
the morning dew is found at the location where the crash was heard..
Will the witness please tell the court exactly what you heard outside
your door on the evening of
Maybe something a
Nice post, Jerry. You're a heartfelt guy, as has been clear for some
time. I know you're from Ma. Take in the August Springfield show
sometime. Always meteorites there, though not as many dealers as in
earlier years. I'm from RI but have not been to the show for 3 years.
Maybe next year. Ever
Darren Garrison wrote:
>I have an inordinate fondness of
>Flexicalymene sp. trilobites from
>around Ohio--I have dozens of them.
Hello Darren,
One of the neatest specimens I once had in my trilobite collection was a
pair of Flexicalymene meeki trilobites from Ohio in a configurati
Gary asked:
>What else does everyone collect?
Time permitting, I sit perfectly still for several hours on my days off
and collect dust.
Then I go out and hunt for fossils and artifacts (surface finds only!)
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Elton wrote:
>"We don't know what it is so it must
>be a meteorite", implying we on the
>dig are all knowing except for what
>we don't know otherwise.
Hello Elton,
Actually, Ron Barsted told me he based his
visual identification on "having seen and handled hundreds of meteor
Mark wrote:
>Good work there, well done taking the
>time to go see the site...Do you know
>if they do any kinds of tests other then
>a visual like a streak test, magnet test,
>etc., etc.?
Hello Mark,
Well, I'm only 30 minutes from the site, so no big deal getting the
I spent 2 days at the dig, but was unable to view the "meteorite", as by
then it was in "safe keeping" in the Mayor's office and the mayor was
not to be found. Whether it turns out meteorite or meteorwrong, it
belongs to the city of Newport. I did make sure that Ron and Jan
Barsted, the organizer
I spent 2 days at the Newport Tower dig, but was unable to examine the
"meteorite", as by then it was in the mayor's office for "safe keeping",
and the mayor was nowhere to be found. Whether it be meteorite or
meteorwrong, it belongs to the city of Newport.
I did explain to Jan and Ron Barsted, th
ole, it doesn't
look half bad. Shape is good, texture and colour are good...anyone who's in
the area would do well to check it out.
Regards,
Jason
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Hello list,
There has never been a recorded fall or find of a meteorit
Hello list,
A list member has kindly pointed out that the
"meteorite" in question is indeed shown on the webpage I sent earlier,
documenting the archaeological dig at the Newport Tower.
Here are 2 photos, which can be found in the daily log entry for
10/18/06:
http://www.chronognostic.org/photo_t
Hello list,
There has never been a recorded fall or find of a meteorite from my home
state of Rhode Island. However, it was recently reported in our local
press that a stone meteorite was discovered during a still ongoing
archaeological excavation of the Newport Tower in Newport, R.I. This
excav
While I have never seen incontrovertible proof for the existence of PK
or TK, in general research into these areas is part of the much broader
research into the relationship of consciousness and the physical
universe, whether macro or micro(quantum). I personally find such
research to be one of th
Martin,
Interesting that the stone plays the part it does.
And the Dream? A Big Dream. Thanks for reminding me of it.
BTW, I have no problem accepting the possibility that the gentleman from
Australia was telling the truth. What Mike, and perhaps 99.9% of
listmembers, see as an unfortunate e
You wrote:
>But why do these people have to mar their
>wonderful finds with BS like that he dreamed
>about finding it only a few meters away the
>night before? That is simply stupid.
On page 62 of The Robert Haag Collection of Meteorites, Private
Collection Edition, Robert Haag wrote: "Great Sa
http://www.esnipe.com will place a bid for you with as little as one
second remaining in the auction. You set the time when esnipe bids for
you
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Andi wrote:
>Wow! Where do you buy these perfect
>minatures of hman beings?:)
Seeing is disbelieving. This page gives a short synopsis. Check the
link "more photos" to see more "little people" :-)
http://giantcrystals.strahlen.org/america/naica.htm
Charlie
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Selenite, Naica mine, southern Chihuahua, Mexico. Discovered April,
2000.
I posted this pic on the list several years ago.
Sorry for the repost, just going for the Wow! factor:-)
Charlie
List,
Can't get the link but check out item# 6610535940. What's up with that?
Even the description of the discovery is similar to Bob Verish's
account.
Best wishes,
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Nice Peekskill kits, Jan. I am a Peekskill lover and own none:-( And I
knew Alan Lang well and could have had a fine piece if only I asked! It
was during a lull in my interest in meteorites. Love the stones that
draw attention to themselves this way. Have a slice of Worden with red
paint from t
Bernd, Gary, listees,
This page from Eric Twelker's site has a rough map of the distribution
area.
http://www.alaska.net/~meteor/CDinfo.htm
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I want to thank Robert Woolard for answering my question regarding the
only previously unknown meteorite actually field collected by Nininger.
It was Puente-Ladron, an L chondrite of 7.673 grams which Nininger
picked up near a bridge over the Puerco River, 10 miles from Ladron
Peak, in Socorro Co,
Al,
I can't find my copy of "Find a Falling Star" :-(
But in that book Nininger describes the one and only time he, purely by
chance, surface collected a previously unknown meteorite. As I recall,
it was a very small chondrite. If you can find that passage, or if
someone else can find where he
When I saw the phrase "meteorites that the Incas had carved on", this
hoax came to mind:
http://skepdic.com/icastones.html
Just a thought
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you are a man of your word.
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Arnold wrote:
>I see I misspelled the word. Just an oversite
>on my part.
Oversite should be spelled oversight. Just another oversight on your
part. Also, why do I get the impression that all your posts from the
past 2 days were really just an excuse to spam the list with your never
ending sale
The owner of the property is still waiting for a response from either
Brown University or the University of Rhode Island. If nobody stops by
to examine the "crater" by Monday he's going to dig up whatever, if
anything, is at the bottom of the hole. I'll keep the list updated if
anything of intere
Hello Jerry and Ryan,
>From CNN Boston:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/04/25/meteor.shower.ap/
>From The Westerly Sun, south coast of Rhode Island:
http://www.thewesterlysun.com/articles/2005/04/25/news/news3.txt
Some observations culled from reports in the Providence Journal:
"Tiverton, R.I. pol
Sterling wrote:
>Lunascan is a network of people who run
>automated telescopes to search for
>TLP's (Transient Lunar Phenomenon).
Some years ago, I got to know, through their mailing list, some of the
members of Lunascan.
In general. I am not one to judge, but I believe many on thi
Sterling Wrote:
>I'm sure Lunar agriculture will be big
>business some day. 100% Absolute
>Guaranteed Pollution Free Organic
>Lunar Produce!
Reminds me of the "Moon Trees".
Moon Trees: http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/lunar/moon_tree.html
The search for the missing moon tree
Hello list,
A report from MSNBC on Saturday night's fireball in the Pacific
Northwest. At least one very cool video exists of the event, as I saw a
clip of it on MSNBC TV a short time ago. Perhaps someone can locate
that clip on the web somewhere?
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7170644/
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Michael,
While the description several listess have given of a blog, namely that
it is a personal web log, is accurate, it is perhaps also educatinal to
note that the bloggers are emerging as competitors to the mainstream
news media. The story at the link below illustrates the tremendous
impact th
I woud like to see a meteorite fall by the shores of:
Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg
Located in Webster Ma, at the boundary of Ma, Connecticut and Rhode
Island. Most popular( but probably not the most accurate) translation:
"You fish on your side, I fish on my side, and nobo
Michael,
I believe Farmer was the first to offer pieces of the Winslow St impact
with fragments of the house siding. Knowing you collect hammer stones,
I would put it this way: the Winslow St stone is not a hammerstone like
the Garza or Jones stones. It did not directly hit the house, but
rather
Michael wrote:
>Dave, come on, are you 3 years old?
Michael, in the years I've been on this list, nobody acts more like a 3
year old then you do.
Have a wonderful day,
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They are ONLY rocks, Tom. You can't take them with you even when you
can afford only the best, and if you do take them with you, the
graverobbers will soon do their thing:-) They are ONLY rocks, the
objects of desire. Desire is never satisfied. Get a new rock, enjoy it
for a short time, and desi
A friend sent me this page this morning.
I accepted it as a gift for the new year, the story of a child so
inspiring that I feel moved to share it with as many people as possible.
Take the time to view the art and poetry and you may wonder, as I do,
from whence such genius derives. Her name is Aki
Bill,
Why are you posting private messages to the list?
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Hi John,
Good one. I knew before going to the link that it would be Babe's
contract. The seller, Alan Shawn Feinstein is a Rhode Island
institution by now. Made his first fortune from ads on matchbook
covers, and has been giving his money away ever since. Thanks for
sharing that. BTW, I never
Heads Up!
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and conveyed to branch offices apart from
the flood of mail and packages that comprise the bulk of mail volume.
Getting it signed for every step of the way is as close to TLC as the
post office gets, so if it's valuable to you as a buyer or seller, send
it registered.
Best wishes,
Charlie Devine
Marc,
Here is a photo of Lafayette from the Smithsonian:
http://www.nmnh.si.edu/minsci/images/gallery/34.htm
And here, in Nininger Moment #11, as compiled by Al Mitterling, Nininger
talks about Lafayette:
http://www.meteoritearticles.com/mitterling11.html
Amazing that it should look so fresh d
Dear listmembers,
This story sheds light on the recent claims and provides some history
regarding similar claims. Turns out the explorers predicted they would
find alien technology before they set out to do so.
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/tunguska_event_040812.html
C. Devine
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Some time ago I noticed a Native American skull for sale on ebay. I did
report it to them, but I also reported it to a Native American news
group who in turn reported it to the assistant US Attorney General of
the seller's state. Ebay cancelled the ad and law enforcement took it
from
Terry:
For years now I keep hearing that exportation of fossils from China is
illegal, with severe punishments for those Chinese who collect and
supply. Yet here in the USA, and in other markets I'm sure, dino eggs
continue to be so prolific it's as if the dinos were still laying them.
And the ma
Hello Geoff. I'm answering you from the archives as I've only received
a few list messages in recent days. Seems to me Michael Blood had a
similar problem a few weeks ago, and now and then it seems to happen to
some list membes. So, you're not alone.
Regards,
Charlie
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Jim and list,
I agree. I always saw sniping as a stategy used to get the item for the
best possible price. If I decide I am willing to spend $200 for an item
and with minutes left the price is still $75 I may snipe with $200 with
seconds left to see if I can get it for less then $200. If I bid
Ken wrote:
>Charlie
>Thanks very much for the link.
Your welcome, Ken. And thank you for the description which gave me some
idea of what I'm missing:-) Guess we'll all be following the saga of
this new fall as it unfolds.
Best wishes,
Charlie
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Dear list,
I can't download this 2 minute clip, but most listmembers probably can,
and it may be worth seeing. Scroll down the page at the link until you
see a video entitled "Space rock falls into living room"
http://tvnz.co.nz/view/tvnz_index_skin/tvnz_index_group
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Charlie
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Michael and Martin,
And because prehistoric refers to cultures that have not developed
writing, there are still prehistoric cultures in existance today.
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Dear list,
For those in the US, the Discovery channel is airing a program called
Fireballs from Space Sunday evening at 8, with a repeat airing at 11
PM.The show is described as dealing with earth crossing objects and the
menace they pose.
Regards,
Charlie
Martin,
I have spoken to Phil Scalisi several times. He is a good friend of a
friend, and he often sets up a table at the Springfield, Ma show in
August. His is one of the foremost private mineral collections in New
England, and probably well beyond that. To the best of my knowledge he
never sp
http://www.newscientist.com/news/print.jsp?id=ns4812
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Worrying about surviving an asteroid impact?
Maybe this is an even bigger worry, especially for our European friends
by the sounds of this secret Pentagon report. For what it's worth:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,12374,1153530,00.html
Regards,
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Mark and list,
There is an artifact collector who goes by the name "I buy fakes".
Don't know if he's still using that handle but he would bid on fakes.
Other potential bidders would see his bid, and perhaps curious, click on
his "about me" ebay page, where they would find a dissertation on the
gre
Hello Ken and Matt,
Matt, I have a question I would like you to ask Matteo should you see
him in the near future.
On 8 January 2004, a friend of Matteo's posted a message to the
meteorite-list with the subject heading "UP WITH MATTEO!!" The friend's
name was Francesco Cini. Mr. Cini provided a l
Hi John,
The wind chill yesterday morning here in Rhode Island was 40 below zero
Fahrenheit. I wore four layers, was outdoors for several hours and
stayed as warm as toast! Loved it in fact. Well of course I'm crazy,
but I'm thinking now the Antarctic ice fields would be a piece of cake.
Yeah, r
sage -
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> Charlie,
> Amazing! Well done!
> (Hupes
Hard to believe I'm the only one interested in an answer to this curious
statement by a scientist who collects meteorites in Antarctica. But I
did a little digging and got the answer. It is perfectly legal for
private parties to collect meteorites in Antarctica.
Regards,
Charlie
--- Begin Messag
Ron and list,
Towards the end of this article, one of the scientists expresses concern
that private expeditions will beat the scientific expeditions back to
the LaPaz ice field next year. He is quoted as saying: "The expeditions
who use our information to help a tourist pick up a meteorite and lo
Jamie,
I found this:
http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/mer_weather/
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Hello Grant, Rob, and list
Grant wrote:
>Your last comment reminded me of this
>book:
>Walter M. Miller's acclaimed SF classic
>A Canticle for Leibowitz opens with the
>accidental excavation of a holy artifact:
>a creased brittle memo scrawled by the
>hand of the ble
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Hi Rob, John, Mark and list
Rob wrote:
>In a given day at Roach, I probably pick
>up a couple thousand rocks, piling them
>up in this manner.
I wonder, if in some far distant future, an archaeologist will write a
thesis on "The stone cairns of Roach and other dry lakes of the Far
Wes
John and list,
I'm sure Bernd has a sense of humor, but no way is he Proud Tom. Who
was quickest to answer virtually any meteorite-related question on this
list, complete with enough references to satisfy anyone? Bernd. And he
always showed his class. I don't know if he's disappeared because o
Dave and list,
I miss Bernd. Does anyone know if is still on this list? Has all the
negative content of recent months finally driven even him away?
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Dear list:
Didn't realize there were 2 space weather sites.
Here is the correct address for the lunar eclipse gallery:
http://www.spaceweather.com
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Dear list:
>From a secluded spot on the shore of Mill Cove, Narragansett Bay, Rhode
Island, USA, my wife and I watched a narrowing band of moonlight on
still waters, a blood moon, and lots of squawking ducks. We thought it
very beautiful.
BTW, http://www.spacewheather.com has a nice lunar eclipse
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3244927.stm
This article describes tests done in the Atacama desert that may shed
light on results obtained in the 76 Vikng mission.
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John and Gregory,
Well, no quakes in New England thursday night/friday morn, but as rabid
baseball fans I'm sure you guys can understand the gloomy mood pervading
Boston and the rest of New England at the moment. We do get an average
of 2-3 small quakes each month in RI and southeast Mass.but few
Robert and list,
This page may be informative:
http://www.tucsonshowguide.com/stories/books/tsavorite.cfm
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John,
Soutern New England was spared the hurricane except for south coastal
beach erosion. One of the 17 fatalities did occur here in Rhode Island,
however. A 66 year old Massachusetts man was swept from the rocks in
Narragansett, where he had gone with his wife to view, with thousands of
others
Mark,
Neat. They are different than the Monk or Quaker parakeets, apparently
found now in many states of the US:
http://www.monkparakeet.com/jmsouth/links.html
These are the ones that established a colony of about 50 in my
neighbor's back yard for several years.
My last word on this OT. Just wan
Michael and list,
Here in southern New England there exists groups of Monk parrots. These
parrots are, I believe, native to Argentina. The predominant theory is
that they escaped from ships in New York city. They have been here in
Rhode Island, year round mind you, for at least 15 years. I fir
Mike,
I'll go a step further then John. You can absolutely trust Serge and
company. They are also good friends with Al Lang and he speaks highly
of them. Since Al is one of the true "good guys" in this hobby, whom
I've known for many years, that's good enough for me. I've also dealt
with Serge
Two more:
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2184227572
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Tom asked:
>How long until these asphalt chunks turn up
>on EBAY?
Not long at all, Tom:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2184229794
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Roman wrote:
>Hey someone named Gregory, Are you the
>guy who had mentioned something about
>bulls in a china shop when we were having
>the SEX and meteorites contest?
Good morning Roman and list,
In fairness to Gregory and to save Gregory the task of searching the
archives, it was I who made th
Adam and list,
I saw a segment on the Today Show, I believe it was yesterday's edition,
about a guy who lived out west, and who was selling a theme park that
had been owned and operated by his family for years. He chose eBay over
any number of local real estate agents. When asked why, he replied
Dear list,
I agree with John that this is not a case of an IMCA member trying to
sell a meteorwrong as a meteorite. He calls it an "iron rock" and
"meteorite-looking", and if I were a bidder I would not believe I was
bidding on a meteorite,
To protect those who might believe they were bidding on
Dave,
I received your message but my replies bounce back. If you contact me
again and include your phone number, I'll touch base with you that way.
My apologies to the list for the personal message.
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g anyone it was the guy asking Steve for a refund!
: )
Thanks, Tom
The proudest member of the IMCA 6168
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have long suspected your understanding is greater than
you let on. I will no longer give you the benefit of the doubt.
Your credibility is ZERO with me.
Like I said, I wouldn't even have commented on this
thread at all if you hadn't audaciously bad mouthed
"showamet" to this li
Dear list
Don't imagine they get much bigger then this..
http://www.journalstar.com/local.php?story_id=58157
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Gregory and list:
In fact I informed the seller about a month ago that the status of
Shirokovsky was questionable. At the time the seller was running an
ebay auction for the same 0.64g slice. He replied that he would "look
into it" and ended the auction. When I saw that he had relisted the
slic
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2176968147
Dear list:
The seller is IMCA member #8645. In an earlier auction of this material
he was informed that the jury was still out on this material. The
description states that it IS a pallasite classified by the Vernadsky
Institute of Mo
Thanks, Mark. I've long been an admierer of the Hopi, ever since I read
Frank Waters' Book of the Hopi in the early 70's. I was a graduate
student in history at the time. I concluded then, and still believe
now, that the Hopi retain the true history of the earth. I was struck
by the similarity
Regarding Park Forest, Matteo wrote:
>Historical?? Historical is after over minimum
>40 years, no after 4 dayshistorical only
>probably for the USA persons of the zone,
>but for meteorite collectors is not
>historical.
Maybe we're splitting hairs here. In Matteo's interpretation,
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Steve,
Three individuals totaling 610 grams. That's some good friend you have
Steve. And some good fortune on your part. Have you given any thought
to sharing your good fortune by donating your remaining micros to an
area school perhaps?
Just a thought :-)
Charlie
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Good e
Determining an orbit would be the icing on the cake.
http://www.adlerplanetarium.org/astronomy/astronews/
Cheers,
Charlie
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