Re: [meteorite-list] US Import Campo del Cielo

[Greg Catterton via Meteorite-list]

It is illegal to export from or import to without a permit, but that doesn't 
stop many from doing it. 

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Manuel Quiring via 
Meteorite-list wrote:   Dear list members,
one of our sellers today was a bit insecure because he was told about US import 
restrictions/bans on Campos, due to Argentinas export ban.
I have to admit, that something like a US import restriction on Campos is 
unheard of by me, so I would like to ask if somebody validated information on 
this.
Many thanks in advance for any information.
Mit freundlichen Grüssen / Kind regards,
|  | 
Manuel Quiring

Auctioneer Fossils & Meteorites
T:+31 6 11305835E:m.quir...@catawiki.dew:www.catawiki.de | www.catawiki.com   |

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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Display at Yale Peabody & Replica News

[Greg Catterton via Meteorite-list]

I never said the IMCA was bad, there are many great people that make it up. 
That said dealers running a collectors group is highly conflicting when the 
dealers can band together and eject members (who also sell) for things that 
others do - at least one being a board member... Perhaps dirk Ross care to 
comment on just how many times and how many members asked about IMCA budget 
info... I was far from the only one just I was the most vocal when I ran for 
the board - and had more then a couple votes... 
Old news though, right? 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 12, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Anne Black <impact...@aol.com> wrote:
> 
> Greg,
> 
> If you were better informed you would know that the State of Nevada requires 
> that any entity registered with the State of Nevada provides them with a 
> physical address where they can send any mail, information, paperwork. 
> 
> Adam, who lives in Nevada, graciously accepted to be the association' s 
> mailman. And he still is.
> No longer a Director, but still the Mailman. 
> Adam, please verify this.
> 
> 
> Anne M. Black
> www.IMPACTIKA.com
> impact...@aol.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Greg Catterton <star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com>
> To: Anne Black <impact...@aol.com>; raremeteorites 
> <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>; gmhupe <gmh...@centurylink.net>
> Cc: meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2016 7:05 pm
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Display at Yale Peabody & Replica News
> 
> 
> Please, I was the one that brought it up that it expired during my time was I 
> was running for a spot on the board. Those that were on the IMCA list at the 
> time know full and well what I am talking about. Its easy to deflect blame 
> and try to point a finger at me for things rather then just stick to the 
> facts I mentioned. I made it full and clear when I was running for a spot 
> that I would be kicked out within a year, its no secret. I do know Adam 
> (thanks to a private email) is the one that made a nice chunk of money 
> available to the IMCA for its use. Call it a donation or what ever,... For 
> almost 2 YEARS the IMCA went on expired non profit status. SO please queen 
> anne tell me, who OWNS the IMCA then? WHos info is on all the current 
> documents?
> 
>  
> Greg Catterton https://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com 
> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wandering-Star-Meteorites/252302821456481
> 
> 
> 
> From: Anne Black <impact...@aol.com>
> To: star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com; raremeteori...@centurylink.net; 
> gmh...@centurylink.net 
> Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 7:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Display at Yale Peabody & Replica News
> 
> 
> 
> Greg C. 
> 
> You have a vivid imagination! Since I was on the IMCA Board at the time, let 
> me set the facts straight.
> 
> -   There never was any funds missing from the IMCA, not even a penny. Maria 
> Haas and all the IMCA Directors past and present can vouch for that, 
> including Adam.
> 
> -   Adam and/or Greg Hupe never bought the IMCA, because it never was for 
> sale. They have both been members since the beginning, and Adam served 2 
> terms as one of the 9 Directors on the Board.
> 
> -   The non-profit status of the IMCA never lapsed. Paperwork was late once 
> due to miscommunication, but not late enough to endanger the non-profit 
> status.
> 
> However,
> 
> I do know that you are no longer an IMCA member. Shall we discuss why? I 
> won't need to use my imagination.
> 
> 
> Anne M. Black
> www.IMPACTIKA.com
> impact...@aol.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Greg Catterton via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> To: Raremeteorites <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
> Cc: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> 
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2016 1:25 pm
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Display at Yale Peabody & Replica News
> 
> Is the concerning the IMCA funds (a few thousand) that were missing several 
> years ago? I know at one point you and or Greg apparently bought the IMCA 
> when it's non profit status was no longer valid. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 11, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Since you bring it up, How about the money you embezzled from all of us and 
>> that my attorney politely asked you to  return  This doesn't include 
>> unauthorized expe

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Display at Yale Peabody & Replica News

[Greg Catterton via Meteorite-list]

A collectors group run by dealers. Very fitting. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 12, 2016, at 10:03 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> 
> I only act as an agent for the IMCA here in Nevada. The IMCA belongs to the 
> fine people who make up its membership. I ran for election and volunteered my 
> time on the board because I believe in what the IMCA stands for.  I was never 
> compensated other than having the satisfaction who doing what I felt was 
> right.   The board was elected by their peers.  They serve tirelessly without 
> compensation.  They volunteer in order to make this a better community.  The 
> IMCA is a bright spot with a high standard of ethics.  There is nothing amiss 
> with this great organization.
> 
> We should thank the IMCA for helping all of us.
> 
> Adam Hupe
> IMCA 2185
> 
> .
> - Original Message - From: "Anne Black" <impact...@aol.com>
> To: <star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com>; <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>; 
> <gmh...@centurylink.net>
> Cc: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 6:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Display at Yale Peabody & Replica News
> 
> 
> Greg,
> 
> If you were better informed you would know that the State of Nevada requires 
> that any entity registered with the State of Nevada provides them with a 
> physical address where they can send any mail, information, paperwork.
> 
> Adam, who lives in Nevada, graciously accepted to be the association' s 
> mailman. And he still is.
> No longer a Director, but still the Mailman.
> Adam, please verify this.
> 
> 
> Anne M. Black
> www.IMPACTIKA.com
> impact...@aol.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Greg Catterton <star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com>
> To: Anne Black <impact...@aol.com>; raremeteorites 
> <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>; gmhupe <gmh...@centurylink.net>
> Cc: meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2016 7:05 pm
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Display at Yale Peabody & Replica News
> 
> 
> Please, I was the one that brought it up that it expired during my time was I 
> was running for a spot on the board. Those that were on the IMCA list at the 
> time know full and well what I am talking about. Its easy to deflect blame 
> and try to point a finger at me for things rather then just stick to the 
> facts I mentioned. I made it full and clear when I was running for a spot 
> that I would be kicked out within a year, its no secret. I do know Adam 
> (thanks to a private email) is the one that made a nice chunk of money 
> available to the IMCA for its use. Call it a donation or what ever,... For 
> almost 2 YEARS the IMCA went on expired non profit status. SO please queen 
> anne tell me, who OWNS the IMCA then? WHos info is on all the current 
> documents?
> 
> 
> Greg Catterton https://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com 
> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wandering-Star-Meteorites/252302821456481
> 
> 
> 
> From: Anne Black <impact...@aol.com>
> To: star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com; raremeteori...@centurylink.net; 
> gmh...@centurylink.net
> Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 7:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Display at Yale Peabody & Replica News
> 
> 
> 
> Greg C.
> 
> You have a vivid imagination! Since I was on the IMCA Board at the time, let 
> me set the facts straight.
> 
> -   There never was any funds missing from the IMCA, not even a penny. Maria 
> Haas and all the IMCA Directors past and present can vouch for that, 
> including Adam.
> 
> -   Adam and/or Greg Hupe never bought the IMCA, because it never was for 
> sale. They have both been members since the beginning, and Adam served 2 
> terms as one of the 9 Directors on the Board.
> 
> -   The non-profit status of the IMCA never lapsed. Paperwork was late once 
> due to miscommunication, but not late enough to endanger the non-profit 
> status.
> 
> However,
> 
> I do know that you are no longer an IMCA member. Shall we discuss why? I 
> won't need to use my imagination.
> 
> 
> Anne M. Black
> www.IMPACTIKA.com
> impact...@aol.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Greg Catterton via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> To: Raremeteorites <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
> Cc: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> 
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2016 1:25 pm
> Subject

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Display at Yale Peabody & Replica News

[Greg Catterton via Meteorite-list]

Is the concerning the IMCA funds (a few thousand) that were missing several 
years ago? I know at one point you and or Greg apparently bought the IMCA when 
it's non profit status was no longer valid. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> Since you bring it up, How about the money you embezzled from all of us and 
> that my attorney politely asked you to  return  This doesn't include 
> unauthorized expenses like lobster, steak and wine dinners, not to mention 
> unnecessary travel. All of this will be available to the public after it is 
> heard in court.  You are also piggy-backing off of six years of my hard work 
> before you even came onboard.  You should create your website, casting 
> system, descriptions and promotional material instead of sponging off of my 
> hard work.  You are entitled to none of this and everybody knows how I feel 
> about piggbackers who are too lazy or greedy to perform their own work and 
> pay their own expenses..
> 
> I am only responding in public to the list since I have been told to stay out 
> direct contact with the defendants and you chose to post this nonsense to the 
> list.
> 
> There is a reason you are all alone in Florida
> .
> Adam
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list" 
> 
> To: 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 1:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Display at Yale Peabody & Replica News
> 
> 
>> Adam,
>> 
>> I can no longer save you from yourself. Your self destructive behavior, your 
>> greed, your delusions are known by most everyone! You make that fake lunar 
>> meteorite salesman appear 'normal'! You are, and have always been, a 
>> miserable excuse for a human being, always so negative and stealing other's 
>> hard work without credit. You are simply a Masterful Manipulator who has 
>> finally been caught, many people have contacted me in private since your 
>> last public attack on me and have provided damning evidence against you. 
>> Take for instance that is was actually your 'Original' and 'Current' 
>> business partner Jeff Krosschell who made the NWA 5000 mold and even babysat 
>> it in his own bedroom during the process. You sat there and smoked and 
>> watched like always.
>> 
>> You remember Jeff, right Adam? He is married to your wife's daughter... You 
>> know, the one's who you defrauded on the whole NWA 5000 story. You claimed 
>> and continue to claim to have made things 'right' with them wherein fact 
>> they have received "not one cent to this day" and were led to believe they 
>> were at fault as you coerced them into thinking they owned less than their 
>> rightful 50% ownership of 6.5 kilos in NWA 5000 (I purchased the returned 5 
>> kilos directly from the Moroccan owners in 2013). You clearly Defrauded your 
>> Business Partners, major mistake Number 1!! Continued mistake and harassment 
>> from you towards me is now you are interfering with my business which has 
>> very harsh legal penalties that you have forced me to exercise and will do 
>> without pause. I will pursue and remedy this issue to the fullest extent of 
>> the law! You will be lucky to own a pair of shorts in order to pull out 
>> empty pockets by the time we are done, maybe you will be lucky and still 
>> have your freedom if 
 the judge is lenient on you. This time it will be Absolute & Final. I will no 
longer allow you to torment and harass me which has put me in the hospital 
twice for ulcers this year.
>> 
>> I've warned you for three years now, Leave Me Alone. You are incapable of 
>> listening to reason and make things right with your business partners, which 
>> are in fact your family and your wife's own daughter!! Your time behind the 
>> delusional and harassing keyboard are just about over. Time to say Goodbye 
>> to the Keyboard Kommander! Enjoy your sales of oriented gold nuggets and the 
>> freedom to use your John Deere lawn mower to rip out lithic scatter on your 
>> vacant desert plots while you have the funds for gas and the freedom to do 
>> so.
>> 
>> Let it be known that Adam's dumping of NWA 5000 on eBay over the last 2 1/2 
>> years is in clear violation and 'legally' not his material as the rightful 
>> owners and original partners have not been remedied in this matter. I am a 
>> key witness to this effect and know everything very clearly!
>> 
>> My making of and the sales of the NWA 5000 replica is 100% legal and ALL 
>> Permissions have and were granted well before my announcements. Any and all 
>> 'Tortious Interference' will be dealt with harshly, as in this clear case of 
>> Adam Libeling and Defaming me here in public!
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> Greg
>> 
>> 
>> Greg Hupe
>> The Hupe Collection
>> gmh...@centurylink.net
>> www.NaturesVault.net 

Re: [meteorite-list] In regards to NWA 10495

[Greg Catterton via Meteorite-list]

Brother against brother and dog eat dog. Welcome to the world of meteorites. 
Sad to see.. Hate to see all this so publicly aired, but thats how people in 
the community handle things... Right Jason Utas? 

 Greg Catterton https://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.org 
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wandering-Star-Meteorites/252302821456481

  From: Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
 To: meteorite list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> 
 Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 1:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] In regards to NWA 10495
   
Adam,
If you do to want to read nonsense, you should not write nonsense!
Your written accusations of libel is libel in itself against me. I highly 
suggest you stop while you are behind!
Everybody knows you AND Jeff Kroschell were/are partners and the ones who began 
the project. You dropped the ball and I picked it up years after you couldn't 
do it. I rescued the 'mission' and carried the ball across the finish line. 
Almost everyone is happy except YOU! YOU will never be happy unless you are 
writing 'nonsense' on the List.
Go spend all of the money I put in yours (and hopefully Jeff's family's) pocket 
and quit throwing it away on wasteful things!
Best regards,Greg Hupe
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 17, 2016, at 7:52 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:



To set the record straight, Greg came on board six years after NWA 5000 was 
discovered and performed none of the critical ground work.  He has taken credit 
for images that I paid to have professionally done by Pat Gifford and provided 
them to another website, plagiarized and uses a website that I spent over a 
1,000 hours producing years before he became involved and he is selling 
unauthorized versions of a replica created on a mold/casting system that I 
designed and produced from scratch.  I never planned on these castings to be 
placed in public hands.  He has now committed libel among other previous 
offenses with the falsehoods he posted last night.  People need to respect 
others intellectual, copyrighted and artistic works. This is not about 
shameless self-promotion on my part.  I did not chase the press at its 
inaugural public viewing at the Royal Ontario Museum, was not present and paid 
to have the classifying scientist represent NWA 5000 at the event.  There is 
only a single image of myself on the official NWA 5000 website buried deep at 
the back end.  I have avoided making the story about myself since I will, more 
than likely, only be a footnote in its long-term history anyway.  It has always 
been about the stone in my case.   I just want its history to be reflected 
accurately and not read nonsense. http://themeteoritesite.com/  Adam Hupe 
 - Original Message -  From: geohigg...@yahoo.com via Meteorite-list  
To: Greg Hupe ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com  Sent: Thursday, June 16, 
2016 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] In regards to NWA 10495 
   Who brokered the deals to the new Maine museum? This is where you find the 
trouble maker. The museum and it's supplier are setting this mysterious larger 
lunar up for a sale with these comments, This museum has already been involved 
in a major scandal regarding stolen meteorites. Now the curator has the 
audacity to introduce themselves and the museum to the World by throwing 
attacks and insults. Two strikes already on the museum and the management. I 
can tell you one thing Greg Hupe is the most honorable, honest hard working 
person I ever had the pleasure of knowing in the world of meteorites. His hard 
work, efforts and accomplishments have inspired my passion for meteorites. As 
far as I know this is a time for celebration, when a meteorite goes on display 
in Yale University, everyone of us should be excited. We can all share in the 
excitement of this wonderful achievement. Those of us who decide to put ego and 
jealousy first, shame on  you. This shows who you really are and your true 
intentions. Some people only care about the money they can take from meteorites 
and all they work on is shameless self promotions that don't put science first. 
You are the people who cause the problems in the World and with meteorites too, 
your attitudes suck. Greg's achievements with NWA 5000 and the others during 
the last 20 years are like a beacon in the darkness, his accomplishments 
working with scientists, museums and universities are in start contrast to the 
accusations coming from people who sell their meteorites in auction houses and 
are involved in scandals. Greg I thank you for being the best and staying the 
course, you are the most achieved person in the Meteorite universe and I 
support everything you do and you are a role model to those of us who one day 
hope to make half as many discoveries. All the best, John Higgins  

 - Reply message -
From: "Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list@meteorit

[meteorite-list] AD - meteorites for sale, awesome deals on thin sections also!

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all, hope everyone is doing well.

I have a great deal to offer - 6 thin sections for only $120.00 You will get 
katol, tatahouine, NWA 1465, an L4, L6 and H5. First come first served.

Also, a very nice selection of Canyon Diablo meteorites for sale. I will take 
50% off the Canyon Diablos that are over 60g on my website.
http://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com/canyon-diablo-iron-meteorites-for-sale.html

I have a 26g part slice of Travis County (a) with monnig label and impeccable 
provenance for sale - $70.00

There are also only 5 slices of NWA 6871, a very highly shocked Ureilite left. 
A low TKW and no known pairings, this has already been wrote about and studied 
by several people, here is a link to a very nice report on this meteorite: 
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/metsoc2012/pdf/5240.pdf
2 complete slices and 3 part slices are all that is left.

I have several other assorted meteorites offered, all can be seen here:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wandering-Star-Meteorites/252302821456481
Meteorites included are - Zag, Martian, Tagish Lake, Orgueil, Ivuna, Gold Basin 
(89 gram golf ball sized individual)Gibeon, Thuathe, Henbury, Chelyabinsk, 
“Arroyo Malo, Allende, Bensour, Gao, and others.

Thanks again for looking, feel free to contact me with offers on these 
meteorites.

Greg Catterton 
https://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com 
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wandering-Star-Meteorites/252302821456481  
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[meteorite-list] AD- Meteorites for sale, thin sections and more!

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all, I have some really nice meteorites for sale.
10% off listed prices! see some of the meteorites available here: 
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com or on my facebook page listed below.

Also available are several thin sections, all uncovered to allow full study.
Thin sections are best prices around and currently for sale are:
2 Katol thin sections
1 Tatahouine thin section
2 NWA 1465 ANOMALOUS CV3!
1 NWA 6550 LL3.7 HUGE surface area takes up most of the slide... 
NWA  thin section collection (3 included) for $75.00 


Thin sections are $35 each plus postage, good luck finding a better price!!!

Thanks for looking, hope everyone has a great day.


Greg Catterton 
https://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com 
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[meteorite-list] AD - Stunning Canyon Diablo meteorites for sale, Katol and more!

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all. I recently traded for a nice selection of very nice quality Canyon 
Diablo meteorites. These are from a very old collection traced back to HH 
Nininger in origin.
Weights available are from 5 grams up to 20g 

Samples of these are here:
http://s27.photobucket.com/user/jedisdiamond/library/Canyon%20Diablo%20iron%20Meteorites%20for%20sale
You can see the full selection and many other incredible meteorites for sale at 
the following links. Will consider offers 

Meteorites for sale
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wandering-Star-Meteorites/252302821456481
And my website has been updated to include some nice meteorites like Katol thin 
sections and so much more.
http://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com/

Thanks for taking the time to see what I am offering for sale, hope you see 
something you like!



Greg Catterton 
https:/I/www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com 
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wandering-Star-Meteorites/252302821456481 

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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - 20% off sale! updates, big meteorite sale $100 FREE??

[Greg Catterton]

HI to all. From here out, Wandering Star Meteorites will be offering only the 
finest documented meteorites available for 
sale. ALL our new and exclusive classified meteorites will come with 
FULL TESTING REPORT, PHOTOS AND ALL INFORMATION FROM OFFICIAL 
CLASSIFICATION - IM TALKING TOP OF THE LINE PACKAGE OFFERED BY NOBODY 
BUT US.
You can visit our website at www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com

We currently are offering 20% off sitewide minus the $5.00 meteorite page and 
thin section page. Will consider offers on listed meteorites. Buy $500 in 
meteorites, get $100 for FREE

Thanks,

Greg






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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - 20% off sale! updates, big meteorite sale $100 FREE??

[Greg Catterton]

Sorry, forgot to include a link to some new material not yet on the website:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wandering-Star-Meteorites/252302821456481
It includes some Katol thin sections for sale too...


 
Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wandering-Star-Meteorites/252302821456481




On Saturday, November 30, 2013 5:54 PM, Greg Catterton 
star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote:

MASSIVE UPDATES to the website today, check 
out the Exclusives under the meteorites for sale tab. Some 
incredible NEW meteorites being offered for the very first time. Some 
really interesting material, inclusions, chondrules and everything else 
to make you say wow! 
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com 
http://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com/meteorites-for-sale.html

Here you will find NEW NWA 7963 and 8140, both limited amounts available.
Enjoy 20% off or buy $500 and get $100 FREE!!!

Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
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[meteorite-list] AD - 20% off sale! updates, big meteorite sale $100 FREE??

[Greg Catterton]

MASSIVE UPDATES to the website today, check 
out the Exclusives under the meteorites for sale tab. Some 
incredible NEW meteorites being offered for the very first time. Some 
really interesting material, inclusions, chondrules and everything else 
to make you say wow! 
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com 
http://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com/meteorites-for-sale.html

Here you will find NEW NWA 7963 and 8140, both limited amounts available.
Enjoy 20% off or buy $500 and get $100 FREE!!!

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[meteorite-list] AD - incredible assortment of meteorites, need to sell ASAP

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all, still needing to raise some money for my house. Please take a moment 
to see if there is anything that would interest you.
WWW.WANDERINGSTARMETEORITES.COM
Its taking a MASSIVE UPDATE TODAY. Im talking some unbelievable photos,
information, and is well worth taking a look at. While still under 
rebuilding and restructuring, we are offering some great deals on 
meteorites for sale. Stop, by, browse around and find some deals!
Buy $500 and get $100 free OR get 20% off your total purchase! Feel free to 
make offers on bulk orders!!



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[meteorite-list] AD - Awesome assortment of meteorites for sale - must sell asap

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all, I have to sell pretty much everything on my website asap.
Under the meteorites for sale tab is a great assortment of premium meteorites 
for sale, will consider offers on large amounts purchased.
I really need the help the sales would bring, my home depends on it - I have 7 
days left to raise the money to save it from mess my ex created.
http://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com/meteorites-for-sale.html


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[meteorite-list] Wandering Star Meteorites... IS BACK.

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all, as I said in my previous AD, Life 
happens and the past 2 years have been a test and a rough road for me 
personally... but its a test I will/have passed.
I am happy to announce that even after someone 
attempted to hack my account and take my website... 
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com is BACK.

Thanks to all who have been understanding in 
delays, both shipping and service delays. In major part, its been due to a 
divorce, 

custody battle, fight for legal ownership of my house and personal issues of 
that nature. 

At one point, I had my meteorite inventory in 3 different states... 

I dropped the ball with my business some because too much of my focus was on 
things mentioned above. 

While we are still in the rebuilding process, new items, new pages and more 
information and 
meteorites for sale are happening every day, sometimes several times an 
hour. If you EVER wanted to OWN something from 
outer space, I can make that happen. For our USA customers we are now 
using USPS priority mail 2nd day for $6.00 and ship within 24 business 
hours of payment. When possible, same day! Overseas order will ship 
within 48 business hours for $12.00 (sorry overseas shipping has gotten 
costly)

I hope to see and hear from past customers, new costumers and also those 
who were effected by delays and my personal issues. I know who you are 
and wont forget your trust when you decide to return.


Thanks taking the time to read this, I hope everyone has a good day.


Greg Catterton
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[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites to sell, great deals, tryingto save my home...

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all, been a long time since I posted. Life happens. Long story
short, I am separated got my house back after 15 month court battle.
When my ex found out she had to give the house back, she stopped paying
the mortgage. I have to catch up on 6 months she did not pay or I lose
my house to foreclosure. The bank will not work with me due to her
actions. I can maintain the bills, but cant get out of this $6100 hole
she has put me into. I am selling off everything I own to save my
families house. I cant get help because it is worth almost 2x what I owe
on it. I have 5 kids that are depending on me raising the cash
I need.

If you are looking to buy meteorites, please take a look at my listings.

http://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com/meteorites-for-sale.html
and also on facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.647466081940151.1073741858.252302821456481type=1

Shipping is with paypal USPS priority mail to the USA - OVERSEAS WILL 
VARY - DUE TO RECENT EVENTS, I WILL LIKE MOST OTHER DEALERS WILL NOT 
SHIP TO ITALY (UNLESS WE HAVE DONE BUSINESS BEFORE)
WILL SHIP WITHIN 24 BUSINESS HOURS OF PAYMENT CLEARING PAYPAL.

I am having to use a 
central account for payments to pay the bank/lawyers - that paypal is: 
mommymcjunk...@yahoo.com should anyone choose to help.I Need the help, 
otherwise I wouldnt be putting this public

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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction

[Greg Catterton]

1999 is also 14 years ago... back then lunar was $1500 a gram or more always. 
Today lunar can be had for less then $400 a gram. Times have changed.

Greg Catterton
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--- On Wed, 5/22/13, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction
 To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 11:05 AM
 They stated that meteorites from Mars
 tend to fetch more than most other meteorites.  This is in
 direct disagreement with the Smithsonian Magazine article,
 Mining for Meteorites, 1999 which claims a dislodged piece
 of the Moon is the most coveted of all.
 
 This still holds true today.   I think most people, not
 only collectors, relate more to the Moon because it can be
 seen, has been romanticized since ancient times and most
 lunar meteorites have magnitudes better aesthetic
 qualities.  Interestingly enough, there is multiple times
 more Martian meteorite material available by weight than
 Lunar material.
 
 
 Adam
 
   
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Tom Randall tommy2...@hvc.rr.com
 To: Meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 5:08 AM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000
 At Auction
 
 
 http://bit.ly/10Pfjwv
 
 Regards!
 
 Tom
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction

[Greg Catterton]

I dont disagree, lunar is my favorite but it makes me question... why has Lunar 
meteorite value decreased from $25,000 a gram to $400 a gram or less - in some 
cases as low as $200 a gram for one certain lunar meteorite?
Thats a loss in value of $24,600 or more in 14 years on lunar while Martian has 
increased.
Perhaps Martian samples are on the way to becoming the new king?


Greg Catterton
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--- On Wed, 5/22/13, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction
 To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 2:15 PM
 Lunar is still king and always will
 be.  Lunar 14 years ago was over $25,000.00/gram for DAG
 pieces while Martian was only $60.00/gram for Zagami. 
 Lunar material can be very striking while there is only one
 Martian breccia.   
 
 
 Adam
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com
 To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;
 Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
 Cc: 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:06 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch
 $160,000 At Auction
 
 1999 is also 14 years ago... back then lunar was $1500 a
 gram or more always. Today lunar can be had for less then
 $400 a gram. Times have changed.
 
 Greg Catterton
 www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
 On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites
 
 
 --- On Wed, 5/22/13, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch
 $160,000 At Auction
  To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Date: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 11:05 AM
  They stated that meteorites from Mars
  tend to fetch more than most other meteorites.  This
 is in
  direct disagreement with the Smithsonian Magazine
 article,
  Mining for Meteorites, 1999 which claims a dislodged
 piece
  of the Moon is the most coveted of all.
  
  This still holds true today.   I think most people,
 not
  only collectors, relate more to the Moon because it can
 be
  seen, has been romanticized since ancient times and
 most
  lunar meteorites have magnitudes better aesthetic
  qualities.  Interestingly enough, there is multiple
 times
  more Martian meteorite material available by weight
 than
  Lunar material.
  
  
  Adam
  
    
  
   
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  From: Tom Randall tommy2...@hvc.rr.com
  To: Meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  
  Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 5:08 AM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch
 $160,000
  At Auction
  
  
  http://bit.ly/10Pfjwv
  
  Regards!
  
  Tom
  
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[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale - Moon, Mars, Irons and more, something for everyone!

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all, been some time since I posted an AD. Been busy with life and family 
issues, but Im back... 
So, without further ado... Check out these great meteorites for sale, will 
consider best offers! You can see all the listings here:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Wandering-Star-Meteorites/252302821456481

Here is a nice assortment of what is being offered:

Irons
21.78 gram Mundrabilla iron meteorite with natural patina
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF9882_zpsc4786ac9.jpg
11.63 gram Henbury Iron meteorite, painted number of 1992, find #5 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF9886_zps57b37ab9.jpg
13.81g Muonionalusta iron meteorite
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF9884_zps3c67c727.jpg
23.43 gram Canyon Diablo iron meteorite
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF9888_zps7e264a90.jpg

Lunar
.865g NWA 6355 lunar part slice
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/lunar%20meteorites%20for%20sale/NWA6355865gd_zps8bb423e4.jpg
.25g NWA 5000 lunar meteorite with free iron
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/lunar%20meteorites%20for%20sale/NWA500025ga_zps9162972c.jpg
.25g Dhofar 910 lunar meteorite
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/lunar%20meteorites%20for%20sale/Dhofar91025ga_zpsb19bfd62.jpg
.056g Dhofar 911
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/lunar%20meteorites%20for%20sale/Dhofar911056gb_zps9a7219cf.jpg

Martian
2.24g NWA 6963 Martian meteorite
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Martian%20Meteorites%20for%20sale/NWA6963224ga_zpsb9d61245.jpg
.52g NWA 6963 fusion crusted martian fragment
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Martian%20Meteorites%20for%20sale/NWA696352ga_zps673cecbf.jpg
.25g NWA 6963 fusion crusted martian fragment
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Martian%20Meteorites%20for%20sale/NWA696325ga_zps96476003.jpg
1.25g NWA 4857 fusion crusted martian individual
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Martian%20Meteorites%20for%20sale/NWA4857125ga_zpsdd3565b2.jpg
.10g NWA 1195 martian part slice
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Martian%20Meteorites%20for%20sale/NWA119510gb_zpsf611d27d.jpg
.062g NWA 5990 martian fragment
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Martian%20Meteorites%20for%20sale/NWA5990062ga_zpsa42866c3.jpg

NWA 6871 highly shocked and rare Ureilite
6 samples left, then its all gone! pics on request

Other assorted meteorites for sale:
http://s27.photobucket.com/user/jedisdiamond/library/Meteorites%20for%20sale

Thanks for looking, any questions, additional pics and info message me off list.

Greg Catterton
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[meteorite-list] AD -achondrites, CK, CR, CO, CV and more for sale - worth a look!

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all... I have a very nice assortment of achondrite and chondrite 
meteorites currently listed for sale on ebay, several with museum provenance. 
Many rare types and a lot of carbonaceous material.
Great prices, will consider best offers for sale off ebay to save fees.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/freedom_factory/m.html?item=170971735860ssPageName=STRK%3AMESELX%3AITrt=nc_trksid=p2047675.l2562

Thanks for looking, hope everyone has a good day!

Greg Catterton

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[meteorite-list] AD - Many nice meteorites for sale

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all, hope everyone had a great new year. 

I just listed a huge selection of meteorites, surely something for anyone.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/freedom_factory/m.html?item=170966748142ssPageName=STRK%3AMESELX%3AITrt=nc_trksid=p2047675.l2562
Will consider offers for off ebay sales.

Several orders shipped today - a few that were late - so keep an eye out if 
your expecting something.

Thanks for looking.

 
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[meteorite-list] Mark Ferguson please contact asap, think your facebook has been hacked

[Greg Catterton]

Subject says it all. 


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[meteorite-list] AD - Claxton, Karoonda with musueum provenance and more

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all. Hope everyone is having a good day
Having a sale on some nice meteorites.

Claxton .456g part slice w provenance
Karoonda .92g with museum label and provenance
NWA 6389 CR2 12.6g end cut for sale
NWA 6963 Martian Fragments up to 2.24g some with fusion crust!
NWA 6291 andgrite and a thin section
Tatahouine
Chergach individuals
Bassikounou individuals
Tamdaght
NWA 4734 .37g Lunar fragment
Nice 80+ gram Gold Basin individual

and more...

OFF LIST please.


Greg Catterton

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[meteorite-list] AD - Allende, Chergach and 2 NWA CV3 thin sections $45 each

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all, hope all is well. Got to raise some cash asap... that said, I am 
offering some really nice uncovered thin sections for sale. 
$45 per section, buy 4 or more and get them for $40 each...
Available are:

Allende
Chergach
NWA 6870 CV3
NWA 6423 CV3


Thanks for looking,


Greg Catterton
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[meteorite-list] Thin sections for sale $65 and under!

[Greg Catterton]

I have several thin sections for sale at great prices - likely the lowest you 
will find for them. All are uncovered to allow for study.

3 Allende$65 each
3 NWA 6870 (CV3) $60 each
1 Chergach $60
1 NWA 6423 (CV3) $55

While they last.



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[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all, I have a nice selection of meteorites offered for sale on ebay. As 
always I am open for offers for sale OFF EBAY at better prices to save ebay 
fees.
You can see my listed items here:

http://stores.ebay.com/Wandering-Star-Meteorites?_trksid=p4340.l2563

Thanks for looking, 

 
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Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA Money Matters my resignation

[Greg Catterton]

Thats sad to hear Mike. I contributed to help the Footes with my donation of 
Carancas hammer items (the only ones in my collection) and really hope the full 
amount was given to them.
I am happy more are starting to go public with this info. I think it needs to 
be made known that there are problems internally at the IMCA for changes to be 
made to make the group what it could and should be.

2 years ago there was Berduc being sold from IMCA members at Tucson also. A few 
of them... Dave and I talked about it when we saw it.


I harmed and hurt a friendship with a very nice person by mentioning it to the 
IMCA, One of the few things I really regret that happened and I am very 
fortunate I was forgiven by him for it.Thank you again for your forgiveness, 
you know who you are.

 
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- Original Message -
From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net
To: Met. Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com; jason utas 
jasonu...@gmail.com; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]  IMCA Money Matters  my resignation

Hi Greg and all,
        Money issues were one of the key reasons I resigned from the IMCA,
Though my resignation was not limited to that, do PLEASE BE SURE TO
READ 1 Addendum

HERE ARE THE (major) REASONS: I RESIGNED FROM THE IMCA:

1- Though many members have repeatedly asked for a financial report from the
IMCA, members have been told, by the board, QUOTE: What is the big deal?
Don't you trust us? UNQUOTE
When information like this is withheld, it is easy to lose your trust.

1- Addendum -    Shortly before the Tucson Show I was informed of actions
which, if true, confirm and exceed  my worst misgivings about the financial
behavior of the IMCA: I contacted Gary Foote and his wife, CJ to see if they
had received the funds generated by the auctioning of a Jerry Armstrong
painting. CJ told me how grateful she was for all the financial help the
meteorite community had given them and that the buyer of the
Jerry Armstrong painting paid them directly (they also received other
money from the IMCA and from individuals who were made aware of their
peril by the IMCA). While expressing overwhelming and sincere gratitude to
Those who had sent money, she told me that the IMCA treasurer had later
contacted her and asked her to return half the money the IMCA had generated
for them, stating only, Other people are in need.

The timing was the worst possible as CJ had just been told by his doctors
that Gary's life was hanging by a thread and she could loose him at any
moment. She reports she told the IMCA treasurer that every cent had gone to
medical costs and basic survival needs. She was then asked for a written
accounting of how all money she received was spent. CJ told me that at that
point her emotional state and the circumstances of life and death they were
facing, hardly allowed for such an accounting and the conversation was
terminated.

When this was happening, I was still a member. As a member, money for Gary
and his wife had been solicited by the IMCA. The request by the treasurer of
the IMCA that half that money be returned clearly constitutes a betrayal
of all who donated to that cause, not to mention the trauma to The Footes. I
certainly feel betrayed. It is hard to believe any of the members of the
IMCA who donated to this cause would find this acceptable.


2-    The IMCA has involved itself in disputes between dealers. Several
dealers have chosen to resign rather than have the IMCA used to leveraged in
their personal transactions with other dealers. This was a major factor for
me, but definitely far from the only factor in my Resigning.

3- The IMCA has recently taken it upon themselves to condemn people dealing
in meteorites from countries that prohibit exportation - in spite of the
fact that I have been told by several people I trust that one prominent
Board Member was openly offering Burduc at the Tucson Show and another had
been personally involved in exporting Burduc.

4-    When someone does resign, the remaining dealer is free to state their
position and make any accusations they please. The resigned dealer is not
even allowed to know what was said about him. (I was told by a good friend
it is against the rules to foreword any IMCA post to a non-member). I know
of several dealers who have been ejected or resigned rather than be
subjected to the hypocrisy of IMCA power brokers - and all but one were
over issues NOT having anything to do with authenticity.

5-     I recommended Michael Gilmer for membership as he is a fine, open
hearted  genuinely good guy - The IMCA refused to accept Michael Gilmer
as a member though he had done nothing wrong, stating he, QUOTE: has
not been around long enough. Is there a defined waiting period for
acceptance? I

[meteorite-list] International Laws related to meteorites link - good info

[Greg Catterton]

Here is a link to some really good info concerning international laws related 
to meteorites and exportation of them.
It specifically makes note of meteorites from India also. 


http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/2002M%26PSB..375S

 
Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites


- Original Message -
From: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net
To: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit

Time for me to excuse myself from any further comments on this thread, the 
neophyte that I am, with this last one on this topic:  when I mentioned I 
echoed Mike's comments, I see it all from afar as a non-IMCA member, and have 
held onto my perspective that the meteorite world is as pristine as the falls 
and finds we enjoy.   Sad to see the drama.

-Richard Montgomery


- Original Message - From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com
To: rickm...@earthlink.net
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 9:07 PM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit



Sorry Richard but this an endemic issue that will always be viewed with a 
turned head. What bothers me the most is the fact that it get's ignored in 
relation to who is involved. I don't really care who sells an illegal rock 
unless it's an imca member who is sworn to the uphold the truth.. like anyone 
really cares about the imca. The perpetrator rolls the dice. I do get disgusted 
when the people who preach about it all backslide into their own bs. Many have 
preached and done the contrary. Check the archives.

I can accept opportunists and leaches as long as they're up front about it, as 
long as they don't get in my way


 From: rickm...@earthlink.net
 To: m...@meteoriteguy.com; star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com
 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 20:32:35 -0700
 CC: jasonu...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit
 
 A follow-up to clarify...I echo MF's perspective.
 
 -RM
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com
 To: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com
 Cc: jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com; Meteorite-list
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit
 
 
  Perhaps the job of the IMCA is not to police the world's laws, but to
  ensure authenticity, which is what it was set up to do.
 
 
  Michael Farmer
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On Jul 14, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Greg Catterton
  star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  1. You know more then well I was told it was Mifflin. I FULLY REFUNDED
  EVERYONE. Case closed. YOU can shove off I had several still not  
  return
  material to me even though they were refunded..., including Mike
  Cottingham, and John Helm.
 
  2. I spent several thousand of my money to try to open the museum. It
  failed. What can I say? I tried... Again, you can shove off
  3. I have returned EVERYTHING donated minus one person who I have  talked
  to about it. YOU did nothing yet run your mouth... again, shove off...
 
  4. WHAT I DID/DO DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT THAT YOU SELLING ILLEGALLY
  EXPORTED MATERIAL AND KNOW AS MUCH!!! I didnt know about the mifflin,  
  you
  know the laws about this, and choose to ignore it!
 
  your comments are pathetic. YOU are breaking international laws, and  are
  an IMCA member to boot... Where is the IMCA right now when you are
  selling ILLEGALLY EXPORTED METEORITES? What are they going to do with  
  you
  breaking numerous IMCA rules? ANYONE from the IMCA care to comment or
  will they remain quite as that usually do when one of the good ol boys
  break the rules?
 
 
 
 
  Greg Catterton
  www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
  On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
  On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com
  To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Cc:
  Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 6:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit
 
  Hello Greg,
  The gall you must have to pass on thousands of dollars of fake
  material, take donations for a good cause, flake on the cause (but
  keep many of the donations) and then rag on me for selling *accurately
  described material*...just shove off. You've done more harm to this
  community on your own than most others have been able to manage in the
  past fifteen years.
  Jason
 
 
 
  I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time.
 
  On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 9:23 AM,
  wanderings...@wanderingstarmeteorites.com wrote:
 
  Its Commonly known

Re: [meteorite-list] International Laws related to meteorites link - good info

[Greg Catterton]

Jason said:

 As best I can tell, the existing arrangement is a domestic protocol
for local officials to follow if they obtain a meteorite.  However,
recent meteorite falls in India have been commandeered by the
government by local officials (and, it seems, GSI employees) with
those officials threatening imprisonment if locals sell their finds.
I wasn't able to find any legal justification for this, but heard
similar stories surrounding both Katol and Sulagiri.

Then said:
As one can see above, I am directed to request that all Indian
Meteorites may, in future, be transmitted to the Trustees of the
Indian Museum in preference to sending them direct to England. 

Followed by HIS OPINION
It would seem that the above letter directly refers to the exportation
of meteorites from India as legal, or at least as legal as it might be
to export a meteorite from England (legal), since the law (if it can
be called that) was a British mandate. 

How can you say that after your first two comments? Anne Black has repeatedly 
stated Sulagiri and meteorites from India are ILLEGAL, same as Berduc and 
others. 
Dont side step this and confuse the followers with your opinions Jason... Thats 
almost as silly as trying to redirect this subject to me. ITS NOT ABOUT ME. Its 
not about you... its about the export laws that in your first comment above, 
CLEARLY shows that its not acceptable to the local law/governing bodies. 

Your second comment goes on to say that they are to be sent to England. NOT to 
be sent out of the country to the USA (YOU) or anyone else. 
The meteorites are illegal. Anne knows this, so does the IMCA board. They are 
just looking the other way when one of the clique does it.

I would have liked the IMCA board to weigh in on this since it does go directly 
against the code of ethics, but as usual, they will likely remain silent rather 
then take action against over half the dealers who are members who are breaking 
the code of ethics. They board should not speak out against the black market 
meteorites when they allow members to conduct activities of the very nature 
they stand against. 

If I wanted, I could send the person who wrote the story the 7 IMCA members 
info who are selling illegal meteorites (such as berduc and others mentioned 
recently) with screen captures and everything from the websites they have it 
listed on... wonder how that would look to the readers who see the replies from 
Anne and other IMCA members - even though they already know of the activity! 
Shame on the IMCA for being so shameful in regards to the equal enforcement of 
its own rules. 
Jason has his blacklist, but as with the IMCA, he picks and chooses who to 
include. Farmer is not on there, Ward is not, Haag is not. Mike Miller is not 
(convicted in GA) and so are many others who have been arrested in conjunction 
with meteorite hunting or sales/export... If your going to toss dirt, make sure 
you spread it around where it belongs Jason dont just pick and choose. 




Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites


- Original Message -
From: jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com
To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] International Laws related to meteorites link - 
good info

Hello Martin, All,
I spent some time looking into the issue as well, after last week's...debacle.

I was unable to find a record of any actual laws pertaining to the
subject, but did find the article that Greg posted and put some
additional work into the matter.

As best I can tell, the existing arrangement is a domestic protocol
for local officials to follow if they obtain a meteorite.  However,
recent meteorite falls in India have been commandeered by the
government by local officials (and, it seems, GSI employees) with
those officials threatening imprisonment if locals sell their finds.
I wasn't able to find any legal justification for this, but heard
similar stories surrounding both Katol and Sulagiri.

The circulars/letters in question appear to have come from the ruling
British Government as instructions for India's Government.

http://books.google.com/books?id=jRUTYAAJpg=PA120lpg=PA120dq=Circular+No.+22-1777+1869+Thorntonsource=blots=xNJjVEoCO4sig=BLjQnyh5DiIn3kY-lwunvpx5Bvohl=ensa=Xei=RZEIUISCJKfe2AWZm7DkBwved=0CEwQ6AEwAQ#v=onepageq=Circular%20No.%2022-1777%201869%20Thorntonf=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=jRUTYAAJpg=RA2-PA95lpg=RA2-PA95dq=Letter+2447+1869+may+indiasource=blots=xNJjVEpvP0sig=wxRxybUsdq_cKITHbT4HfkYFXskhl=ensa=Xei=d5IIUKiVDsKg2gW72ZnGBwved=0CEgQ6AEwAA#v=onepageq=Letter%202447%201869%20may%20indiaf=false

As one can see above, I am directed to request that all Indian
Meteorites may, in future, be transmitted to the Trustees of the
Indian Museum in preference to sending them direct to England.

It would

Re: [meteorite-list] International Laws related to meteorites link - good info

[Greg Catterton]

Jason, I was going after the IMCA while I was still a 
member and was running for a spot on the board two elections ago. This 
is all in the archives unless the purged it to cover up the activities 
they are doing.  They still wont account for where all the money they 
get in member dues has went, why the non profit status was revoked in 
2008, who Daniel K. Cathcart is (the one time owner) Anyone know him? 
Who the current owner is (Adam Hupe?) how and why he came to own it... 


As a member of the IMCA, I lost a lot of faith in the group for the lack 
of answers to questions many had. Not just me. I was just the most 
outspoken about it. I even went to say that if I was not elected, I 
would be kicked out of the group within months for what I was pressing 
them to answer and the fact they would not. I and MANY other members asked for 
budget info for years. They would NOT release it.


They wont say who and how many members are free (Bribed?) to be members... They 
are silent just like on this. 

Legal status of meteorites and import export goees to the heart of the IMCA 
code of ethics yet they do nothing about it to help the community.

This is not me being mad about not being a member or even your stupid 
blacklist site you have. Its about honesty of the group who is supposed 
to (or should be) the go to for real meteorite info and authenticity.
The IMCA is useless unless you want the logo to sell meteorites under some 
false and half hearted rules and ethics. When Mike Blood offered to buy 
the entire board Robert rules, they said no! Why? That is a great 
resource they choose not to accept his kind offer. 


Please dont get me wrong, there are some great people in the IMCA and even the 
board has a few good ones, but not many who are in actual control. Its a 
marketing gimmick. Thats it. The IMCA could be great, but they are not 
currently effective in pretty much anything.


The official reason I am not a member is because I tried to export a 
buzzard coulee prior to me getting the permit. (which I did get) and the reason 
I wanted it was to have a very fresh sample to provide to a 
friend for study and thin sectioning... I did not want to wait several 
months for it and who knows what contamination to occur... NO OTHER 
REASON. I have the emails from the IMCA board showing this and will 
provide them to ANYONE who wants to see. Anyone who says different, 
please speak up now.


I could go on, but I will wait to see if anything I said here is 
addressed... likely will be silent as usual and try to sweep these 
things under the rug. So again, please IMCA board, owner, president, 
vice president? Any want to answer the questions above?



Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites



From: jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com
To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] International Laws related to meteorites link - 
good info

Hello All,

Greg Catterton said:

 How can you say that after your first two comments? Anne Black has repeatedly 
 stated Sulagiri and meteorites from India are
 ILLEGAL, same as Berduc and others.

It seems that Anne's word alone is not sufficient to create new laws
in India.  She quoted the 1865 reference to me, and it does not seem
to exist.  Berduc, on the other hand, does appear to be illegally
exported based on what I've heard about Argentina's laws, but I
haven't looked into that and feel unqualified to comment.

 ITS NOT ABOUT ME. Its not about you... its about the export laws that in your 
 first comment above, CLEARLY shows that its not
 acceptable to the local law/governing bodies.

At the time, India was the property of the crown, and Britain has
never had any export laws pertaining to British meteorites.  Thus,
your interpretation of the circulars/letters as some form of a
prohibitive export law makes no sense whatsoever.

It would be like the US restricting the export of meteorites from
Puerto Rico while ignoring/allowing exports from the mainland.  Again,
it simply does not make sense.

You have no evidence to suggest that the export of meteorites from
India is illegal, yet you continue to insist upon that notion.  This
really does seem to be about YOU versus the IMCA.  And ME.  Lol.

Jason

On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Greg Catterton
star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Jason said:

  As best I can tell, the existing arrangement is a domestic protocol
 for local officials to follow if they obtain a meteorite.  However,
 recent meteorite falls in India have been commandeered by the
 government by local officials (and, it seems, GSI employees) with
 those officials threatening imprisonment if locals sell their finds.
 I wasn't able to find any legal justification for this, but heard
 similar stories surrounding both Katol

Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit

[Greg Catterton]

thats the whole reason I spoke up on this issue. There are IMCA board members 
feeding Jason utas information to create his IMCA blacklist website, yet he is 
breaking the IMCA code of ethics and also international laws. The IMCA will do 
nothing about it as Jason id protected by the IMCA board. Its a sad situation 
indeed. When its a part of the clique they look the other way. I was good 
enough to run for the board and yet two months later was no longer an IMCA 
member because I rocked the boat. I am sorry, I WILL NOT keep quiet when I see 
issues. How about the fact Adam Hupe OWNS the IMCA now? Where is that public 
info unless you do extensive research and pay the money to get records? How 
about how the IMCA was NOT non profit for several years? yet certain members 
what to team up and build a blacklist website and then sell illegally exported 
meteorites?
The IMCA is complete BS and so futile at this point it is not much more then a 
marketing gimmick. I will speak out on this because I am not afraid of them or 
what they will try to do to my business. they already have done what they can 
to make me look bad, so I am returning the favor. THE IMCA IS A WASTE OF A 
GREAT IDEA. It is a group with good intentions, but run by many that have no 
other interest then money and no love for meteorites. Anne Black does not care 
about meteorites. She is all about the money she can  make off them. So are 
several others in charge of the group. Its not the IMCA, its the IMDA (D for 
dealers) at this point. Owned and controlled by dealers who do not collect and 
dont have the passion a collector does. Let the crickets chirp as they keep 
quiet and try to hide this. I beg the board, challenge what I am saying, please 
do... I will prove you wrong at every turn. I made mistakes in trusting people, 
but made it right and that led
 to a lot of personal issues in my life. My wanting to share meteorites with 
others. I had dreams that were not able to be made reality. I admit that, but 
it was only my passion for these space rocks that did it. Not some scheme or 
scam. Just dreams.
Jason cant say that, Anne cant say that. most the IMCA board who remains quiet 
cant say that. I dare them to speak up... they wont because it will affect the 
money they make and the fancy cars they drive. I have nothing to lose, so I 
speak my mind.
So be it...


Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites



From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com
To: rickm...@earthlink.net 
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit


Sorry Richard but this an endemic issue that will always be viewed with a 
turned head. What bothers me the most is the fact that it get's ignored in 
relation to who is involved. I don't really care who sells an illegal rock 
unless it's an imca member who is sworn to the uphold the truth.. like anyone 
really cares about the imca. The perpetrator rolls the dice. I do get disgusted 
when the people who preach about it all backslide into their own bs. Many have 
preached and done the contrary. Check the archives. 

I can accept opportunists and leaches as long as they're up front about it, as 
long as they don't get in my way 


 From: rickm...@earthlink.net
 To: m...@meteoriteguy.com; star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com
 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 20:32:35 -0700
 CC: jasonu...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit
 
 A follow-up to clarify...I echo MF's perspective.
 
 -RM
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com
 To: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com
 Cc: jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com; Meteorite-list 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit
 
 
  Perhaps the job of the IMCA is not to police the world's laws, but to 
  ensure authenticity, which is what it was set up to do.
 
 
  Michael Farmer
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On Jul 14, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Greg Catterton 
  star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  1. You know more then well I was told it was Mifflin. I FULLY REFUNDED 
  EVERYONE. Case closed. YOU can shove off I had several still not return 
  material to me even though they were refunded..., including Mike 
  Cottingham, and John Helm.
 
  2. I spent several thousand of my money to try to open the museum. It 
  failed. What can I say? I tried... Again, you can shove off
  3. I have returned EVERYTHING donated minus one person who I have talked 
  to about it. YOU did nothing yet run your mouth... again, shove off...
 
  4. WHAT I DID/DO DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT THAT YOU SELLING ILLEGALLY

Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit

[Greg Catterton]

thats the whole reason I spoke up on this issue. There are IMCA 
board members feeding Jason utas information to create his IMCA 
blacklist website, yet he is breaking the IMCA code of ethics and also 
international laws. The IMCA will do nothing about it as Jason id 
protected by the IMCA board. Its a sad situation indeed. When its a part
 of the clique they look the other way. I was good enough to run for the
 board and yet two months later was no longer an IMCA member because I 
rocked the boat. I am sorry, I WILL NOT keep quiet when I see issues. 
How about the fact Adam Hupe OWNS the IMCA now? Where is that public 
info unless you do extensive research and pay the money to get records? 
How about how the IMCA was NOT non profit for several years? yet certain
 members what to team up and build a blacklist website and then sell 
illegally exported meteorites?
The IMCA is complete BS and so futile 
at this point it is not much more then a marketing gimmick. I will speak
 out on this because I am not afraid of them or what they will try to do
 to my business. they already have done what they can to make me look 
bad, so I am returning the favor. THE IMCA IS A WASTE OF A GREAT IDEA. 
It is a group with good intentions, but run by many that have no other 
interest then money and no love for meteorites. Anne Black does not care
 about meteorites. She is all about the money she can  make off them. So
 are several others in charge of the group. Its not the IMCA, its the 
IMDA (D for dealers) at this point. Owned and controlled by dealers who 
do not collect and dont have the passion a collector does. Let the 
crickets chirp as they keep quiet and try to hide this. I beg the board,
 challenge what I am saying, please do... I will prove you wrong at 
every turn. I made mistakes in trusting people, but made it right and 
that led
to a lot of personal issues in my life. My wanting to share
 meteorites with others. I had dreams that were not able to be made 
reality. I admit that, but it was only my passion for these space rocks 
that did it. Not some scheme or scam. Just dreams.
Jason cant say 
that, Anne cant say that. most the IMCA board who remains quiet cant say
 that. I dare them to speak up... they wont because it will affect the 
money they make and the fancy cars they drive. I have nothing to lose, 
so I speak my mind.
So be it... Block me from posting to protect the IMCA if you wish, but the 
truth is the truth. 

 
Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites


- Original Message -
From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com
To: rickm...@earthlink.net
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit


Sorry Richard but this an endemic issue that will always be viewed with a 
turned head. What bothers me the most is the fact that it get's ignored in 
relation to who is involved. I don't really care who sells an illegal rock 
unless it's an imca member who is sworn to the uphold the truth.. like anyone 
really cares about the imca. The perpetrator rolls the dice. I do get disgusted 
when the people who preach about it all backslide into their own bs. Many have 
preached and done the contrary. Check the archives. 

I can accept opportunists and leaches as long as they're up front about it, as 
long as they don't get in my way 


 From: rickm...@earthlink.net
 To: m...@meteoriteguy.com; star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com
 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 20:32:35 -0700
 CC: jasonu...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit
 
 A follow-up to clarify...I echo MF's perspective.
 
 -RM
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com
 To: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com
 Cc: jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com; Meteorite-list 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit
 
 
  Perhaps the job of the IMCA is not to police the world's laws, but to 
  ensure authenticity, which is what it was set up to do.
 
 
  Michael Farmer
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On Jul 14, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Greg Catterton 
  star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  1. You know more then well I was told it was Mifflin. I FULLY REFUNDED 
  EVERYONE. Case closed. YOU can shove off I had several still not return 
  material to me even though they were refunded..., including Mike 
  Cottingham, and John Helm.
 
  2. I spent several thousand of my money to try to open the museum. It 
  failed. What can I say? I tried... Again, you can shove off
  3. I have returned EVERYTHING donated minus one person who I have talked 
  to about it. YOU did nothing yet run your mouth... again

Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit

[Greg Catterton]

Commonly known meteorites from India are illegal without export permits, but 
yet Suligiri and now Katol is  offered by many IMCA members. Guess the 
meteorite police, IMCA member and seller of this Jason Utas needs to add 
himself to his blacklist for selling illegal meteorites!


 
Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites


- Original Message -
From: Me Teor m3t30r1t3...@gmail.com
To: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com
Cc: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit

Dear Shawn
You are absolutely correct. It is illegal to collect meteorites in India. And 
meteorites are government property. The authority for this is the Geological 
Survey of India. And as far as I know, they never trade or deal with any 
individuals or private institutions. There cannot be any export papers as 
export is banned. 

Although I wonder how having a export paper or certificate helps ? 

If a specimen is up for sale, it is definitely out of the country and has been 
exported. 

By the way does anyone have a analysis report on this new find ?

M.E.

On 14-Jul-2012, at 3:32 AM, Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hello Listers,
 
 From my understanding, meteorites that fell or are found after 1885 in India 
 would be forwarded to the Government Geological Museum which would take over 
 possession of the meteorite? If so, how is Katol exempt from this, or was 
 Katol sold by the Museum? For those who have gotten some of this meteorite 
 fall, will their meteorites come with export papers like how Canadian falls 
 are handled? 
 
 Shawn Alan
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Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit

[Greg Catterton]

1. You know more then well I was told it was Mifflin. I FULLY REFUNDED 
EVERYONE. Case closed. YOU can shove off I had several still not return 
material to me even though they were refunded..., including Mike Cottingham, 
and John Helm.

2. I spent several thousand of my money to try to open the museum. It failed. 
What can I say? I tried... Again, you can shove off
3. I have returned EVERYTHING donated minus one person who I have talked to 
about it. YOU did nothing yet run your mouth... again, shove off...

4. WHAT I DID/DO DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT THAT YOU SELLING ILLEGALLY EXPORTED 
MATERIAL AND KNOW AS MUCH!!! I didnt know about the mifflin, you know the laws 
about this, and choose to ignore it!

your comments are pathetic. YOU are breaking international laws, and are an 
IMCA member to boot... Where is the IMCA right now when you are selling 
ILLEGALLY EXPORTED METEORITES? What are they going to do with you breaking 
numerous IMCA rules? ANYONE from the IMCA care to comment or will they remain 
quite as that usually do when one of the good ol boys break the rules?



 
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- Original Message -
From: jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com
To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit

Hello Greg,
The gall you must have to pass on thousands of dollars of fake
material, take donations for a good cause, flake on the cause (but
keep many of the donations) and then rag on me for selling *accurately
described material*...just shove off.  You've done more harm to this
community on your own than most others have been able to manage in the
past fifteen years.
Jason



I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time.

On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 9:23 AM,
wanderings...@wanderingstarmeteorites.com wrote:

 Its Commonly known meteorites from India are illegal without export
 permits, but yet Suligiri and now Katol is  offered by many IMCA members
 for sale. Guess the meteorite police, IMCA member and seller of this
 (Katol) Jason Utas needs to add himself to his blacklist for selling
 illegal meteorites! Question is, where is the IMCA to take action
 against jason for illegally exporting or receiving these for sale?

 Greg C,

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit
 From: Me Teor m3t30r1t3...@gmail.com
 Date: Sat, July 14, 2012 11:39 am
 To: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

 Dear Shawn
 You are absolutely correct. It is illegal to collect meteorites in
 India. And meteorites are government property. The authority for this is
 the Geological Survey of India. And as far as I know, they never trade
 or deal with any individuals or private institutions. There cannot be
 any export papers as export is banned.

 Although I wonder how having a export paper or certificate helps ?

 If a specimen is up for sale, it is definitely out of the country and
 has been exported.

 By the way does anyone have a analysis report on this new find ?

 M.E.

 On 14-Jul-2012, at 3:32 AM, Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hello Listers,

 From my understanding, meteorites that fell or are found after 1885 in 
 India would be forwarded to the Government Geological Museum which would 
 take over possession of the meteorite? If so, how is Katol exempt from 
 this, or was Katol sold by the Museum? For those who have gotten some of 
 this meteorite fall, will their meteorites come with export papers like how 
 Canadian falls are handled?

 Shawn Alan
 IMCA 1633
 eBay store
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 http://www.meteoritefalls.com/
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Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit

[Greg Catterton]

I am not attacking you by any means. Not like your blacklist website you have. 
I am simply pointing out the IMCA has FAILED to police its own members and 
allow them to sell illegal meteorites! I got my Almahatta Sitta from Anne 
Black, IMCA VP... Talk to her about the legal issues of it as she sold it to me.
My NWAs are not from Algeria FYI... Please lets name some names and make it 
clear that there is ALOT of illegal meteorites being sold by IMCA members and 
the group has failed to clean house for the violations of the code of ethics 
they swear by so much!

Again, this is not about me, this is about YOU and other IMCA members breaking 
the IMCAs rules and ethics codes and the lack of enforcement the IMCA is 
showing. Lets be honest, you crucify me for a failed museum I tried to open 
while YOU ARE SELLING STOLEN METEORITES!!


 
Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
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On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites


- Original Message -
From: jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com
To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit

Greg,
Like your NWA's (maybe from Algeria), Camel Donga (no export permit)
and Almahata Sitta (possibly legal at best) on ebay -- to say nothing
of everyone's Sulagiri and most of the Canyon Diablo on the market
today?  How about those Sikhote's you're offering?  Exported before
Russia cracked down on exports, I take it?  Please.

I can name several people who donated to your museum who you still
haven't refunded.

There's a difference between cheating people and offering a new
meteorite for sale, but I wouldn't expect you to see the difference.

Keep attacking me, and me alone.  We all know what's going on here.

Jason

On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Greg Catterton
star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote:
 1. You know more then well I was told it was Mifflin. I FULLY REFUNDED 
 EVERYONE. Case closed. YOU can shove off I had several still not return 
 material to me even though they were refunded..., including Mike Cottingham, 
 and John Helm.

 2. I spent several thousand of my money to try to open the museum. It failed. 
 What can I say? I tried... Again, you can shove off
 3. I have returned EVERYTHING donated minus one person who I have talked to 
 about it. YOU did nothing yet run your mouth... again, shove off...

 4. WHAT I DID/DO DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT THAT YOU SELLING ILLEGALLY EXPORTED 
 MATERIAL AND KNOW AS MUCH!!! I didnt know about the mifflin, you know the 
 laws about this, and choose to ignore it!

 your comments are pathetic. YOU are breaking international laws, and are an 
 IMCA member to boot... Where is the IMCA right now when you are selling 
 ILLEGALLY EXPORTED METEORITES? What are they going to do with you breaking 
 numerous IMCA rules? ANYONE from the IMCA care to comment or will they remain 
 quite as that usually do when one of the good ol boys break the rules?




 Greg Catterton
 www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
 On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites


 - Original Message -
 From: jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com
 To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Cc:
 Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 6:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit

 Hello Greg,
 The gall you must have to pass on thousands of dollars of fake
 material, take donations for a good cause, flake on the cause (but
 keep many of the donations) and then rag on me for selling *accurately
 described material*...just shove off.  You've done more harm to this
 community on your own than most others have been able to manage in the
 past fifteen years.
 Jason



 I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time.

 On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 9:23 AM,
 wanderings...@wanderingstarmeteorites.com wrote:

 Its Commonly known meteorites from India are illegal without export
 permits, but yet Suligiri and now Katol is  offered by many IMCA members
 for sale. Guess the meteorite police, IMCA member and seller of this
 (Katol) Jason Utas needs to add himself to his blacklist for selling
 illegal meteorites! Question is, where is the IMCA to take action
 against jason for illegally exporting or receiving these for sale?

 Greg C,

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit
 From: Me Teor m3t30r1t3...@gmail.com
 Date: Sat, July 14, 2012 11:39 am
 To: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

 Dear Shawn
 You are absolutely correct. It is illegal to collect meteorites in
 India. And meteorites are government property. The authority for this is
 the Geological Survey of India. And as far as I know, they never trade
 or deal with any

Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit

[Greg Catterton]

So.. are you saying The IMCA only publicly denounce a persons actions if the 
person is 
NOT a memeber of the IMCA. Otherwise they hide the shameful actions of 
their members? 


YOU yourself publicly 
slammed me some time ago while I was a member and it got reactions from 
other members, some who offered to buy the entire board the Roberts rule of 
order manual which you guys turned down... its a shame you did, you 
may have learned something. 

I have learned from my mistakes, you obviously have not.

Jason has openly admitted to selling this without proper export permits... 
please tell me about your email to me saying the reason I was kicked out was 
due to me importing buzzard coulee without a permit? I still have 
the emails and will share to ANYONE who wants to see... the Official 
reason I am not longer a member per your board was due to Buzzard Coulee import 
while the permits where still in process (which I ended up 
getting!) 


tell me I am wrong and I will post the email publicly!



Greg Catterton
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From: Anne Black impact...@aol.com
To: jasonu...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit

Hello Jason, Greg, and all,

2 very important facts to remember at all times:

-  IMCA Board Members are not required to sit in front of their 
computers 24/7, just in case someone has a question or a problem. We 
are allowed to have a life.

-  Anything the IMCA Board decides to say or do will be said or done in 
PRIVATE. And only in Private.

Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com
Vice-President of IMCA
www.IMCA.cc


-Original Message-
From: jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com
To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sat, Jul 14, 2012 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit


Ditto Michael.  Your personal beef with me and the IMCA for booting
you is sad, but you screwed up in a large way, multiple times.  Way to
brush off the topic of unreturned museum donations yet again.

Almahata Sitta was issued an export permit by the University of
Khartoum.  Whether that is legal in the eyes of the government there
is open to debate.  Either way, the pot's calling the kettle black.

These meteorites were not stolen.  As you say, case closed.

Jason

On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Greg Catterton
star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I am not attacking you by any means. Not like your blacklist website 
you have.
I am simply pointing out the IMCA has FAILED to police its own members 
and allow
them to sell illegal meteorites! I got my Almahatta Sitta from Anne 
Black, IMCA
VP... Talk to her about the legal issues of it as she sold it to me.
 My NWAs are not from Algeria FYI... Please lets name some names 
and make
it clear that there is ALOT of illegal meteorites being sold by IMCA 
members and
the group has failed to clean house for the violations of the code of 
ethics
they swear by so much!

 Again, this is not about me, this is about YOU and other IMCA members 
breaking
the IMCAs rules and ethics codes and the lack of enforcement the IMCA 
is
showing. Lets be honest, you crucify me for a failed museum I tried to 
open
while YOU ARE SELLING STOLEN METEORITES!!



 Greg Catterton
 www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
 On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites


 - Original Message -
 From: jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com
 To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Cc:
 Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 7:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit

 Greg,
 Like your NWA's (maybe from Algeria), Camel Donga (no export permit)
 and Almahata Sitta (possibly legal at best) on ebay -- to say nothing
 of everyone's Sulagiri and most of the Canyon Diablo on the market
 today?  How about those Sikhote's you're offering?  Exported before
 Russia cracked down on exports, I take it?  Please.

 I can name several people who donated to your museum who you still
 haven't refunded.

 There's a difference between cheating people and offering a new
 meteorite for sale, but I wouldn't expect you to see the difference.

 Keep attacking me, and me alone.  We all know what's going on here.

 Jason

 On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Greg Catterton
 star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote:
 1. You know more then well I was told it was Mifflin. I FULLY 
REFUNDED
EVERYONE. Case closed. YOU can shove off I had several still not 
return
material to me even though they were refunded..., including Mike 
Cottingham, and
John Helm.

 2. I spent several thousand of my money to try to open the museum. 
It failed.
What can I say? I tried... Again

[meteorite-list] AD - 20% off Meteorites for sale - historic, rare and museum pieces!

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all, I hope everyone is doing well. I have a 20% off sale going on ebay 
right now to raise some cash. 
Here are the listings:
http://stores.ebay.com/Wandering-Star-Meteorites?_trksid=p4340.l2563

I will take an additional 10% off for sales OFF EBAY. Feel free to make offers, 
worst I can say is no.
There is some really rare and historic samples available that you simply dont 
see often.

BULK DEAL:
Lunar displays, buy 10 for $275, buy 20 for $500
Martian displays, buy 10 for $275 or 20 for $500  

Both of these are the real deal, not the fake crap that others have been 
selling recently. I made these myself from larger pieces to offer a nice 
presentation at an affordable price.


I left a few orders in WV, They will mail Saturday when I return.

Thanks for looking and again, I hope everyone has a great day.

Will consider trades if the material offered can be resold quickly. 

Feel free to email or call for more info.
Thanks, 

Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
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On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites


 
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale. Siena, L'Aigle, 1cm+ CAI orgueil, Tagish Lake etc

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all. 

Still needing to raise cash to help me and my kids 
recover from our family emergency... I have some really rare meteorites 
for sale some of which you just dont find. Make reasonable offers 
offlist, by phone or email. 


Siena
L'Aigle
Claxton
NWA 6717 with CAI over 1cm in size (super rare and main mass) The last CAI like 
this was quickly picked up for research. You just dont find them this large.
NWA 7023 Eucrite fusion crusted individual -MUSEUM QUALITY!
Orguiel (ultra rare)
Tagish Lake (ultra rare)
Karoonda (ultra rare)
Chergach individuals and slices
Ash Creek slice
Travis County a with monnig collection label
Bassikounou individuals and end cuts
NWA 4734 (lunar)
NWA 4880 (Martian)
NWA 5799 (main mass)
NWA 6870 CV3
NWA 6871 (very unusual and highly shocked ureilite that is already making news 
and being published in papers!)
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/metsoc2012/pdf/5240.pdf

NWA 6291 (Angrite) translucent slice!!! 
ALH 76009 fragment with outstanding documentation
Sikhote-Alin individuals 
Whitecourt Iron meteorite 
Whetstone Mountains slices and limited edition monograph 
Carancas fragments recovered by Bob Haag
Buzzard Coulee individuals and fragments
Bensour individuals and fragments
Almahatta Sitta (unique Ureilite)
Bilanga
Tatahouine
An unusual Chondrite we found copper in! 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=390431027131ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT


I also have many listed on ebay, make offers for off ebay sales for better 
deals. I will sell it ALL for an amazing deal that would surely bring in a nice 
profit for someone... 

http://www.ebay.com/sch/wanderingstarmeteorites/m.html?item=390311821966viewitem=sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITrt=nc_trksid=p4340.l2562


Greg Catterton
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On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites



From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:16 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale. Siena, L'Aigle, Murchison, 
Moss, 1cm+ CAI etc



Hi to all. 

Still needing to raise cash to help me and my kids recover from our family 
emergency... I have some really rare meteorites for sale some of which you just 
dont find. Make reasonable offers offlist, by phone or email. 


Siena
L'Aigle
Moss
Murchison
NWA 6717 with CAI over 1cm in size (super rare and main mass)
NWA 7023 Eucrite fusion crusted individual
Orguiel (ultra rare)
Tagish Lake (ultra rare)
Karoonda (ultra rare)
Chergach individuals
Ash Creek 12g individual with insitu photo and slices
Travis County a with monnig collection label
Bassikounou
Ensisheim (ultra rare)
NWA 4734 (lunar)
NWA 4880 (Martian)
NWA 5799 (main mass)
NWA 6870 CV3
NWA 6871 (very unusual and highly shocked ureilite)
NWA 6291 (Angrite) translucent slice!!! 
ALH 76009 fragment with outstanding documentation
Sikhote-Alin individuals 
Whitecourt Iron meteorite 
Whetstone Mountains slices and limited edition monograph 
Carancas fragments recovered by Bob Haag
Buzzard Coulee individuals and fragments
Bensour individuals and fragments
Almahatta Sitta (unique Ureilite)
Bilanga
Tatahouine


I also have many listed on ebay, make offers for off ebay sales for better 
deals.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/wanderingstarmeteorites/m.html?item=390311821966viewitem=sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITrt=nc_trksid=p4340.l2562


Greg Catterton
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Re: [meteorite-list] [Meteorites] http://phys.org/news184402061.html

[Greg Catterton]

NWA 6871 had a rather large diamond (for a meteorite) extracted from it after 
causing a lot of trouble during the cutting process. It was without a doubt the 
hardest meteorite I or several others have come across. Dr. David Vann did the 
cutting and Im sure he could go into more details of the process which was not 
very easy. It tore through blades left and right. 
I have not seen much online about diamonds found in meteorites that were able 
to be held in your hand, much less seen with the naked eye like the one we 
pulled out of it. Its going to be studied later in July which should hopefully 
provide some more details about it and perhaps help science to better 
understand the process of formation of it and maybe a few other things will 
come from the research. 

Here are a few photos for everyone to enjoy of this exciting find - I am 
calling it The Gump Diamond because meteorites are like a box of 
chocolates... you never know what your gonna get.


Showing scale and size

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5332-4.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5281-3.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00608-3.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00607-2.jpg

Close ups
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00610-3.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00606-3.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00609-3.jpg

Here is more detailed information on NWA 6871 that is already available.

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=53784

Physical characteristics: A single 
extremely hard, brown stone weighing 119 g and almost impossible to cut. Small 
adamantine crystals of diamond were extracted from the stone by 
Mr. Catterton.
Petrography: Coarse-grained 
aggregate of olivine and orthopyroxene with finer grained interstitial 
regions containing opaque material, calcite and limonite. Some thin 
calcite veinlets cross-cut the specimen. Both olivine and pyroxene are 
completely recrystallized to aggregates of myriad tiny, polygonal 
subgrains.
Geochemistry: Olivine cores Fa19.4-20.0 (CaO=0.3 wt.%, Cr2O3=0.7 wt.%), rims 
Fa10.5; orthopyroxene Fs12.6-13.7Wo3.7-3.4.
Classification: Achondrite 
(ureilite). The very high shock experienced by this specimen (causing 
complete recrystallization of silicates and evidently generation of 
significant amounts of microdiamond) is unusual among ureilites.
Specimens: A total of 20 g of material is on deposit at App and one polished 
thin section is at UWS.  Mr. G. Catterton holds the main mass.

Greg Catterton
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From: pshu...@messengersfromthecosmos.com 
pshu...@messengersfromthecosmos.com
To: The List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [Meteorites] http://phys.org/news184402061.html

Hello list,
The implications of these findings are, to say the least, staggering.
has this been confirmed in other Ureilite meteorites? Such as Novo Urie,

or others?
For years, diamonds were the standard of hardness, and now that's
all out the window
Pete


  Original Message 
 Subject: [Meteorites] http://phys.org/news184402061.html
 From: Greg Catterton notification+zj4ozto49...@facebookmail.com
 Date: Sat, June 30, 2012 8:04 pm
 To: Meteorites spacero...@groups.facebook.com
 
 
 Greg Catterton posted in Meteorites
 
 http://www.facebook.com/l/VAQE1XtNKAQF5o1qdQPcdmtuYrReA8cCVDIp8QrxfXIJGRw/phys.org/news184402061.html
 
 
 
 Meteorite yields carbon crystals harder than diamond
 (PhysOrg.com) -- Two new types of ultra-hard carbon crystals have been
 found by researchers investigating the ureilite class Haverö
 meteorite that crashed to Earth in Finland in 1971. Ureilite
 meteorites are carbon-rich and known to contain graphite and diamonds.
 
 
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[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale. Siena, L'Aigle, Murchison, Moss, 1cm+ CAI etc

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all. 

Still needing to raise cash to help me and my kids recover from our family 
emergency... I have some really rare meteorites for sale some of which you just 
dont find. Make reasonable offers offlist, by phone or email. 


Siena
L'Aigle
Moss
Murchison
NWA 6717 with CAI over 1cm in size (super rare and main mass)
NWA 7023 Eucrite fusion crusted individual
Orguiel (ultra rare)
Tagish Lake (ultra rare)
Karoonda (ultra rare)
Chergach individuals
Ash Creek 12g individual with insitu photo and slices
Travis County a with monnig collection label
Bassikounou
Ensisheim (ultra rare)
NWA 4734 (lunar)
NWA 4880 (Martian)
NWA 5799 (main mass)
NWA 6870 CV3
NWA 6871 (very unusual and highly shocked ureilite)
NWA 6291 (Angrite) translucent slice!!! 
ALH 76009 fragment with outstanding documentation
Sikhote-Alin individuals 
Whitecourt Iron meteorite 
Whetstone Mountains slices and limited edition monograph 
Carancas fragments recovered by Bob Haag
Buzzard Coulee individuals and fragments
Bensour individuals and fragments
Almahatta Sitta (unique Ureilite)
Bilanga
Tatahouine


I also have many listed on ebay, make offers for off ebay sales for better 
deals.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/wanderingstarmeteorites/m.html?item=390311821966viewitem=sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITrt=nc_trksid=p4340.l2562


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[meteorite-list] AD - Buy $1100 in meteorites, get $200 in meteorites FREE! your choice!

[Greg Catterton]

Need roughly $1100 to get a car for me and my kids. If you buy $1100 in 
meteorites, I will give you $200 in meteorites for FREE. YOUR CHOICE!
Buy $2200 and get $400 FREE.
Cant beat this deal with a meteorite stick!
OFF EBAY ONLY PLEASE, I need to save as much as possible and ebay fees are 
pretty high.


http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites

Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
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From: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 8:29 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: SUTTER'S MILL COLLECTION

Hello,

Was saving this collection to start my new Meteorite Collection withbut by 
now everyone knows why I would be selling it

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200779557801


Best Wishes

Michael Cottingham
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[meteorite-list] AD - Yyou dont want to miss these meteorites for sale! Historic and more!

[Greg Catterton]

Hi, I have a huge sale going right now. 

Here is what it includes:

Travis County (a) 26.1 gram slice from Monnig collection with provenance and 
label.
Seina fusion crusted fragment with museum provenance and TWO labels. History 
and provenance like this are not cheap...
Fukang 32g pallasite slice - outstanding translucent slice will make you drool
Sleeper Camp (very rare) s1.28g slice with full provenance from two IMCA members
Whitecourt Iron meteorite with GPS, display, pin, photos and export permit
NWA 6173 L4 meteorite 35.5g complete slice - a chondrule fantasy!
Carancas fragments (up to 30g lots)
L'agile slices
Allende individuals and slices
Bassikounou individuals and end cuts
Camel Donga
Bensour individuals
Campo del cielo
Chergach individuals and slices
Sikhote-Alin individuals
Moss
Murray
Murchison
Karoonda
Orguiel (with ASU provenance)
Ivuna
Tagish Lake
Canyon Diablo 
Buzzard Coulee individuals
Whetstone Mountain slices
NWA 6870 CV3 

NWA 6871 Ure (very unusual)
NWA 5400
NWA 5363
NWA 6077
NWA 5511
NWA 6550

I have a lot more available I am uploading to facebook today. Selling it all to 
help with me and my kids get back on our feet...

Message me if interested and for pics/prices.


Greg Catterton
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Yyou dont want to miss these meteorites for sale! Historic and more!

[Greg Catterton]

Thanks for all the emails and an extra thanks to someone special out there... 

I am listing on ebay for the ease of offering pictures here and a wider selling 
audience. Here is the link:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/wanderingstarmeteorites/m.html?hash=item5adfd1c404item=390302123012pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0rt=nc_trksid=p4340.l2562
Contact me by email or phone for offers for sale off ebay. 


Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
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On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites



From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 1:39 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - Yyou dont want to miss these meteorites for 
sale! Historic and more!



Hi, I have a huge sale going right now. 

Here is what it includes:

Travis County (a) 26.1 gram slice from Monnig collection with provenance and 
label.
Seina fusion crusted fragment with museum provenance and TWO labels. History 
and provenance like this are not cheap...
Fukang 32g pallasite slice - outstanding translucent slice will make you drool
Sleeper Camp (very rare) s1.28g slice with full provenance from two IMCA members
Whitecourt Iron meteorite with GPS, display, pin, photos and export permit
NWA 6173 L4 meteorite 35.5g complete slice - a chondrule fantasy!
Carancas fragments (up to 30g lots)
L'agile slices
Allende individuals and slices
Bassikounou individuals and end cuts
Camel Donga
Bensour individuals
Campo del cielo
Chergach individuals and slices
Sikhote-Alin individuals
Moss
Murray
Murchison
Karoonda
Orguiel (with ASU provenance)
Ivuna
Tagish Lake
Canyon Diablo 
Buzzard Coulee individuals
Whetstone Mountain slices
NWA 6870 CV3 

NWA 6871 Ure (very unusual)
NWA 5400
NWA 5363
NWA 6077
NWA 5511
NWA 6550

I have a lot more available I am uploading to facebook today. Selling it all to 
help with me and my kids get back on our feet...

Message me if interested and for pics/prices.


Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale asap, mifflin, fukang, LARGE CAI

[Greg Catterton]

Sorry for another ad, but I need a car for me and my 2 kids asap... 

Will take $4000 for EVERYTHING LISTED BELOW... 

Fukang Pallasite slice for sale - simply awesome. Sad to let go, but 
just have to sell... make offers. 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5365.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5368.jpg

181 gram Bassikounou meteorite, simply awesome end cut for sale, make best 
offer. 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Bassikounou181gb.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Bassikounou181ga.jpg

NWA
7023 Eucrite complete individual, fusion crusted museum quality piece 
FOR SALE. 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF3235.jpg

Mifflin 10g end cut 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/297495_252321324787964_641516_n.jpg

NWA 6717 main mass with really large CAI 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6717Mainmass.jpg

NWA
6870 CV3 30g end cut with CAIs - stunning meteorite!!! FOR SALE 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5308.jpg




Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites



From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com
To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2012 1:16 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale, got to go asap, mifflin - 
fukang, Lunar and more

Bad times, bad need due to family emergency. 

Many meteorites for sale, please make reasobale offers


Fukang Pallasite slice for sale - simply awesome. Sad to let go, but just have 
to sell... make offers. 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5365.jpghttp://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5368.jpg

181 gram Bassikounou meteorite, simply awesome end cut for sale, make best 
offer. 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Bassikounou181gb.jpghttp://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Bassikounou181ga.jpg

NWA 7023 Eucrite complete individual, fusion crusted museum quality piece FOR 
SALE. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF3235.jpg

Mifflin 10g end cut 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/297495_252321324787964_641516_n.jpg

NWA 6717 main mass with really large CAI 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6717Mainmass.jpg

NWA 6870 CV3 30g end cut with CAIs - stunning meteorite!!! FOR SALE 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5308.jpg



Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites 
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[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale, got to go asap, mifflin - fukang, Lunar and more

[Greg Catterton]

Bad times, bad need due to family emergency. 

Many meteorites for sale, please make reasobale offers


Fukang Pallasite slice for sale - simply awesome. Sad to let go, but just have 
to sell... make offers. 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5365.jpg 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5368.jpg

181 gram Bassikounou meteorite, simply awesome end cut for sale, make best 
offer. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Bassikounou181gb.jpg 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Bassikounou181ga.jpg

NWA 7023 Eucrite complete individual, fusion crusted museum quality piece FOR 
SALE. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF3235.jpg

Mifflin 10g end cut 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/297495_252321324787964_641516_n.jpg

NWA 6717 main mass with really large CAI 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6717Mainmass.jpg

NWA 6870 CV3 30g end cut with CAIs - stunning meteorite!!! FOR SALE 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5308.jpg



Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites


- Original Message -
From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com
To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2012 12:27 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: ORNANS, Murray, Wold Cottage, Seres, Sylacauga, 
LA002 Mars meteorite  more ending on eBay soon.

Hello Listers, 

Thank you for taking a look at my post of meteorites 
I have for sale on eBay. Here is your chance to own some rare and historic 
meteorites. Please take a look and if you have any questions or OFFERS 
please email me and I’ll get back with you. Also if you are looking for 
bigger/smaller meteorites, let me know too. A meteorite is a meteorite, but 
a meteorite with history and a legacy, will always add aura to your 
meteorite collection and value. 

eBay store 
http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html?
 
Featured Meteorites
 
MURRAY Ultra Rare CM2 Meteorite 70 Amino Acids Polyols SUGARS - ASU Collection
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261041092568?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
ORNANS- Type specimen CO meteorite- SUPER RARE fall from France 1868.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251080669101?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
WOLD COTTAGE rare meteorite 1795-1st classified from UK! From British Museum
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261041090358?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
SUTTER’S MILL 6mg Meteorite-FUSION CRUST USA CM meteorite class April 22, 2012
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261041096240?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
SERES meteorite 1818 1st and only meteorite from Greece SUPER RARE!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251080664933?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
LOS ANGELES 002 Martian/Mars meteorite 2nd USA Mars find!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251080672374?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
SUTTER’S MILL Meteorite- CA USA CM meteorite class April 22, 2012
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261040330644?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
KRASNOJARSK (Pallas Iron) Pallasite meteorite 1749
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251078979493?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
SYLACAUGA meteorite Mrs Hodge meteorite strike
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261032254123?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
Thank you
Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633
eBay Store
http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html?
http://www.meteoritefalls.com/
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale, got to go asap, mifflin - fukang, Lunar and more

[Greg Catterton]

Bad times, bad need due to family emergency. 

Many meteorites for sale, please make reasobale offers


Fukang Pallasite slice for sale - simply awesome. Sad to let go, but just have 
to sell... make offers. 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5365.jpg 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5368.jpg

181 gram Bassikounou meteorite, simply awesome end cut for sale, make best 
offer. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Bassikounou181gb.jpg 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Bassikounou181ga.jpg

NWA 7023 Eucrite complete individual, fusion crusted museum quality piece FOR 
SALE. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF3235.jpg

Mifflin 10g end cut 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/297495_252321324787964_641516_n.jpg

NWA 6717 main mass with really large CAI 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6717Mainmass.jpg

NWA 6870 CV3 30g end cut with CAIs - stunning meteorite!!! FOR SALE 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5308.jpg

 
Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites


- Original Message -
From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com
To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2012 1:16 PM
Subject: AD - Meteorites for sale, got to go asap, mifflin - fukang, Lunar and 
more

Bad times, bad need due to family emergency. 

Many meteorites for sale, please make reasobale offers


Fukang Pallasite slice for sale - simply awesome. Sad to let go, but just have 
to sell... make offers. 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5365.jpg 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5368.jpg

181 gram Bassikounou meteorite, simply awesome end cut for sale, make best 
offer. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Bassikounou181gb.jpg 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Bassikounou181ga.jpg

NWA 7023 Eucrite complete individual, fusion crusted museum quality piece FOR 
SALE. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF3235.jpg

Mifflin 10g end cut 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/297495_252321324787964_641516_n.jpg

NWA 6717 main mass with really large CAI 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6717Mainmass.jpg

NWA 6870 CV3 30g end cut with CAIs - stunning meteorite!!! FOR SALE 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5308.jpg



Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites


- Original Message -
From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com
To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2012 12:27 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: ORNANS, Murray, Wold Cottage, Seres, Sylacauga, 
LA002 Mars meteorite  more ending on eBay soon.

Hello Listers, 

Thank you for taking a look at my post of meteorites 
I have for sale on eBay. Here is your chance to own some rare and historic 
meteorites. Please take a look and if you have any questions or OFFERS 
please email me and I’ll get back with you. Also if you are looking for 
bigger/smaller meteorites, let me know too. A meteorite is a meteorite, but 
a meteorite with history and a legacy, will always add aura to your 
meteorite collection and value. 

eBay store 
http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html?
 
Featured Meteorites
 
MURRAY Ultra Rare CM2 Meteorite 70 Amino Acids Polyols SUGARS - ASU Collection
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261041092568?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
ORNANS- Type specimen CO meteorite- SUPER RARE fall from France 1868.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251080669101?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
WOLD COTTAGE rare meteorite 1795-1st classified from UK! From British Museum
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261041090358?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
SUTTER’S MILL 6mg Meteorite-FUSION CRUST USA CM meteorite class April 22, 2012
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261041096240?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
SERES meteorite 1818 1st and only meteorite from Greece SUPER RARE!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251080664933?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
LOS ANGELES 002 Martian/Mars meteorite 2nd USA Mars find!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251080672374?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
SUTTER’S MILL Meteorite- CA USA CM meteorite class April 22, 2012
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261040330644?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
KRASNOJARSK (Pallas Iron) Pallasite meteorite 1749
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251078979493?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
SYLACAUGA meteorite Mrs Hodge meteorite strike
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261032254123?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
Thank you
Shawn Alan
IMCA

[meteorite-list] AD - CV3 meteorite main mass with HUGE 1cm plus CAI for sale/trade

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all, hope everyone is doing well.
I have a large complete stone with a CAI that is over 1cm. These are 
pretty rare of this size. In addition, its also the main mass of NWA 
6717.
The last CAI of this size was offered for science and quickly picked up by 
researchers, this one is being made available to all.

Open for offers for sale/trade.
Pics on request. Serious offers only.
Thanks for looking 


Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites
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[meteorite-list] Hi to all, I am back

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all. Been a long time since I posted. 

I am back. 

Hope everyone is well, will be posting more soon.

 
Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
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[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale - NEW very unusual ureilite

[Greg Catterton]

The very high shock experienced by this specimen (causing complete 
recrystallization of silicates and evidently generation of significant 
amounts of microdiamond) is unusual among ureilites.
Small adamantine crystals of 
diamond were extracted from the stone ... coarse-grained aggregate of 
olivine and orthopyroxene with finer grained interstitial regions 
containing opaque material, calcite and limonite. Some thin calcite 
veinlets cross-cut the specimen. Both olivine and pyroxene are 
completely recrystallized to aggregates of myriad tiny, polygonal 
subgrains.

NWA 6871...


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[meteorite-list] AD unusual new diamon rich ureilite and more meteorites for sale - great buys!

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all, I hope everyone is doing well.
First off, I would like to offer an exceptional deal on a very unusual and 
highly shocked new ureilite. There was only one stone that weighed 119g. 

This is a very diamond rich ureilite that has been classified as NWA 6871. 
After cutting loss and deposit, there is only a limited amount of samples 
available. 

Due to the high diamond content, cutting costs were very high. This is the 
stone we found this 
in...http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00606.jpg

Price on these is a very reasonable $23.00 per gram plus postage. Below are the 
samples available. I also have some micros and sub gram pieces, please contact 
me for pics on those. 

18.11 gram complete 
slice/slabhttp://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA68711811ga.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA68711811gb.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA68711811gc.jpg

15.1 gram complete slice/slab
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA68711520ga.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA68711520gb.jpg

8.51 gram complete slice
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6871851ga.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6871851gb.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6871851gc.jpg


7.75 gramcomplete 
slicehttp://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6871775ga.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6871775gc.jpg

4.57 gram part slice
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6871457ga.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6871457gc.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6871457gb.jpg

3.33 gram part slice
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6871333ga.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6871333gc.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6871333gb.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6871333gd.jpg


I also have an awesome 55.6 gram Whitecourt iron meteorite for sale. It comes 
with import documentation, GPS location of find and photos.
Price on this piece is a very reasonable $400.00 plus postage. Find a better 
price then that!!!
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5637.jpg

Tatahouine! The green meteorite! 
How about 100 grams that is made up of roughly 70 stones. Pieces are up to 2.5g 
each. 100g for only $900.00
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5704.jpg

Thin sections! 
Here is 4 thin sections, 3 are uncovered. Included in NWA 4734 (lunar) 
Tatahouine (Diogenite) Camel Donga (Eucrite) and NWA 5799 (covered)
You can own all 4 for only $150.00
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5001-3.jpg

NWA 6870 CV3 MAIN MASS - 366 grams - Make offers!
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5002-3.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5004-5.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5003-1.jpg

Carancas 30 gram lot for only $600.00! Thats $20 per gram for a witnessed fall 
that created a crater!

You can also check out my ebay listings
http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites

Thanks for looking!




Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
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[meteorite-list] Copper content in meteorites, Image of copper in a meteorite

[Greg Catterton]

Here is a picture of a meteorite we found copper in. With the recent discussion 
of gold and stuff in meteorites, I thought this would be of interest.
Hope everyone is doing well,
Enjoy the pic
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Cu_4copy-1.jpg

Greg Catterton
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[meteorite-list] AD - HUGE meteorite sale, worth a look with a surprise

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all, I am having a huge sale right now. There is a lot of awesome 
material to choose from, some at the lowest prices you will find.

Here is some of what is for sale:

SALE!!! AWESOME METEORITE SALE - MUST GO!!!

NWA 6658 very rare and interesting Mesosiderite - NEW classification $5 per gram
NWA 6870 very nice CV3 with CAIs - NEW classification as low as $3 per gram
NWA
 6871 VERY UNIQUE AND UNUSUAL DIAMOND RICH Ureilite - NEW classification
 $30 per gram - this is a new and unusual ureilite that I have kinda 
tossed in here... low TKW of just 119g single stone is very exciting 
stuff, it yielded a diamond that is .025mg - for those that dont know, 
thats HUGE for a diamond from a meteorite! See the diamond from space! 
here: 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00606.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00608.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5332-1.jpg
A complete slice of NWA 6871
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5288.jpg
Carancas - $20 per gram with a 3g minimum
Tatahouine - $10 per gram with a 10g minimum
Sikhote Alin individuals - oriented and hand picked pieces $2.25 per gram with 
30g minimum
Camel Donga - $12 per gram
Allende $15 per gram
Whitecourt Iron $8 per gram
Thuathe $9.00 per gram
Lunar Meteorite displays $30.00 each
Chergach - $7.00 per gram
Bassikounou - $5.00 per gram
Stuarts-KidneyStone - Priceless...
NWA 1465 - Anomalous CV3 that is one of only 4 known - $10 per gram
NWA 6291 - Angrite micros - $14 each
Camel Donga Thin Section - $80.00 uncovered
NWA 4734 LUNAR thin section $100.00 uncovered
Tatahouine Thin Section $70.00 uncovered


Thanks for looking, pics and more info on request. Been hunting the recent fall 
in WV, no luck. Very tough area to search... and black bears abundant. 

You can find some material and other items also listed on ebay:  
http://stores.ebay.com/Wandering-Star-Meteorites?_trksid=p4340.l2563

Hope everyone is well,


Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites


- Original Message -
From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:43 AM
Subject: AD - HUGE meteorite sale, worth a look with a surprise



Hi to all, I am having a huge sale right now. There is a lot of awesome 
material to choose from, some at the lowest prices you will find.

Here is some of what is for sale:

SALE!!! AWESOME METEORITE SALE - MUST GO!!!

NWA 6658 very rare and interesting Mesosiderite - NEW classification $5 per gram
NWA 6870 very nice CV3 with CAIs - NEW classification as low as $3 per gram
NWA 6871 VERY UNIQUE AND UNUSUAL DIAMOND RICH Ureilite - NEW classification $30 
per gram - this is a new and unusual ureilite that I have kinda tossed in 
here... low TKW of just 119g single stone is very exciting stuff, it yielded a 
diamond that is .025mg - for those that dont know, thats HUGE for a diamond 
from a meteorite! See the diamond from space! here: 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00606.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00608.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5332-1.jpg
A complete slice of NWA 6871
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5288.jpg

Carancas - $20 per gram with a 3g minimum
Tatahouine - $10 per gram with a 10g minimum
Sikhote Alin individuals - oriented and hand picked pieces $2.25 per gram with 
30g minimum
Camel Donga - $12 per gram
Allende $15 per gram
Whitecourt Iron $8 per gram
Thuathe $9.00 per gram
Lunar Meteorite displays $30.00 each
Chergach - $7.00 per gram
Bassikounou - $5.00 per gram
Stuarts-KidneyStone - Priceless...
NWA 1465 - Anomalous CV3 that is one of only 4 known - $10 per gram
NWA 6291 - Angrite micros - $14 each
Camel Donga Thin Section - $80.00 uncovered
NWA 4734 LUNAR thin section $100.00 uncovered
Tatahouine Thin Section $70.00 uncovered


Thanks for looking, pics and more info on request. Been hunting the recent fall 
in WV, no luck. Very tough area to search... and black bears abundant. 

You can find some material and other items also listed on ebay:  
http://stores.ebay.com/Wandering-Star-Meteorites?_trksid=p4340.l2563

Hope everyone is well,


Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites


 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Diamonds and meteorites - NWA 6871 and its Gump Diamond

[Greg Catterton]

Here are some much higher quality images that were taken at App State today of 
the diamond found in NWA 6871.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00606.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00608.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00610.jpg

I think I may have sent the last email as rich text, here is a repeat of the 
previous one...

I have found a rather large diamond inside the newly classified NWA 6871 
ureilite meteorite (provsional)
While it may be small for a diamond, I have not seen any holdable diamonds 
from meteorites or read about them, as this one is.
Its
 only about the size of the ball in a ball point pen and weighs roughly 
.025g but is a stunning sight and was found in a slice of a very shocked
 and unusual ureilite.
I though 
some of you may like to see it. I am calling it the Gump Diamond as it
 is the shinning example that meteorites are like a box of chocolates, 
you never know what your gonna get 

Close up of diamond 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5281.jpg

Diamond with scale
cube
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5332-1.jpg

More to come on this awesome find soon.




Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites



From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com
To: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com; Michael Gilmer 
meteoritem...@gmail.com; Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: Diamonds and meteorites - NWA 6871 and its Gump Diamond


Hi to all, hope everyone is doing well. I have some very neat news to share 
with you all...

I have found a rather large diamond inside the newly classified NWA 6871 
ureilite meteorite (provsional)
While it may be small for a diamond, I have not seen and holdable meteorites 
or read about them, as this one is.
Its only about the size of the ball in a ball point pen and weighs roughly 
.025g but is a stunning sight and was found in a slice of a very shocked and 
unusual ureilite.
I though some of you may like to see it. I am calling it the Gump Diamond as 
it is the shinning example that meteorites are like a box of chocolates, you 
never know what your gonna get 

Close up of diamond 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5281.jpg

Diamond with scale
cube
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5332-1.jpg

More to come on this awesome find soon.


Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites



From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com
To: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com; Sterling K. Webb 
sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2011 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Gold and Iridium content of 
meteorites(especiallyirons)

I have not seen visible gold in meteorites but I have seen them with copper in 
them that is visible and more recently, something more exciting. More to come 
on this soon.
Hope everyone is doing good!


Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites



From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com
To: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Gold and Iridium content of 
meteorites(especiallyirons)

Hi Gang,

I was just curious about exactly how much gold is bound up inside a
meteorite with a higher than average content, like the one in this
example.

Personally, I share the same sentiment as most of you - it would be
heresy to destroy a meteorite to extract something that is available
here on Earth, even if it wasn't cost-prohibitive.

At 41 years old, I have made it this far in life with terrible math
skills, so this old dog isn't going to take any refresher courses.  I
was hoping one of the more skilled (and intelligent) members would act
as a human calculator and cipher this question for me.  :)

So in this particular case, the 32kg iron meteorite contains ~1.5
troy
ounces of gold, with a current market value of ~$2550.

What sparked my curiosity was the apparently high gold content that
was measured in milligrams and not the usual micrograms one expects to
see.

One last question, perhaps rhetorical in a sense, has anyone ever seen
gold in a meteorite?  I mean, has there ever been a visible bleb or
gold inclusion in a meteorite?  Or is all of the gold

Re: [meteorite-list] Gold and Iridium content of meteorites(especiallyirons)

[Greg Catterton]

I have not seen visible gold in meteorites but I have seen them with copper in 
them that is visible and more recently, something more exciting. More to come 
on this soon.
Hope everyone is doing good!
 

Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites



From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com
To: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Gold and Iridium content of 
meteorites(especiallyirons)

Hi Gang,

I was just curious about exactly how much gold is bound up inside a
meteorite with a higher than average content, like the one in this
example.

Personally, I share the same sentiment as most of you - it would be
heresy to destroy a meteorite to extract something that is available
here on Earth, even if it wasn't cost-prohibitive.

At 41 years old, I have made it this far in life with terrible math
skills, so this old dog isn't going to take any refresher courses.  I
was hoping one of the more skilled (and intelligent) members would act
as a human calculator and cipher this question for me.  :)

So in this particular case, the 32kg iron meteorite contains ~1.5 troy
ounces of gold, with a current market value of ~$2550.

What sparked my curiosity was the apparently high gold content that
was measured in milligrams and not the usual micrograms one expects to
see.

One last question, perhaps rhetorical in a sense, has anyone ever seen
gold in a meteorite?  I mean, has there ever been a visible bleb or
gold inclusion in a meteorite?  Or is all of the gold bound up on a
molecular level and invisible to the naked eye and 10x loupe?

I guess there won't be a gold rush to the asteroid belt

Best regards,

MikeG
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On 10/3/11, Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 1.49 mg per gram is one part in 671.
 1/671 of 32 kg is 47.7 grams of gold.
 There are 31 grams per troy ounce; gold
 is priced in troy ounces; there are 1.537
 troy ounces oif gold in that 32 kg, or
 $2551.94 at today's (10/03/11) price.

 Cost you more than that to extract it...


 Sterling K. Webb
 --
 - Original Message -
 From: Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com
 To: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com;
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Gold and Iridium content of
 meteorites(especiallyirons)


 Oops, I was wrong.It would be

 32,000gr / 1.49mg = 21475 mg

 21,475/1000 = 21.475 gr

 Right, anyone??




 Stuart McDaniel
 Lawndale, NC
 Secr.,
 Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society
 IMCA #9052
 Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA
 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Gilmer
 Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 8:33 PM
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Gold and Iridium content of meteorites
 (especiallyirons)

 Hi List,

 In perusing through the latest additions to the Met Bulletin today, I
 was reading the compositional data for NWA 6932 (iron, ungrouped).  I
 noticed that the gold (Au) content was listed at 1.49mg/g.  Is this
 sort of data as straight-forward as it appears, or is there more to it
 that this layman is missing?  In other words, how much gold is in this
 meteorite?  The TKW of this meteorite is 32kg.  So, with 1000g in a
 kilo, and 1000mg in a gram, how much gold is in this celestial hunk of
 iron?  (my math is horrible)

 Second question, what is highest known gold content in a meteorite and
 what meteorite is it?

 Third question, some meteorites also have high iridium content.  What
 is the highest known iridium content in a meteorite?

 I am not suggesting in any way that meteorites should be refined or
 melted down to extract their precious metals content, but given the
 high value of metals such as gold and iridium, has any profiteer tried
 such an endeavour?  Or would the process be too complex and expensive?

 Best regards,

 MikeG

 -
 Galactic Stone  Ironworks - Meteorites  Amber (Michael Gilmer)

 Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com
 Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my
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 http://www.encyclopedia

[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale - Great buys and new classifications

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all. I am having a sale on meteorites listed on ebay. There are some 
great deals to be had.
Ihave several new classifications that are provisional and ready for new
homes. There is a new CV3 (NWA 6870) that is really neat as well as a 
some nice larger tatahouine fragments and a nice example of the Whitecourt 
Iron meteorite with export permit, GPS info and pictures.

Check it out, you just may find something you like!
http://www.ebay.com/sch/wanderingstarmeteorites/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562

Thanks for looking and I hope everyone is doing well.

Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
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[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale - Great buys and new classifications

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all. I am having a sale on meteorites listed on ebay. There are some 
great deals to be had.
I have several new classifications that are provisional and ready for new
homes. There is a new CV3 (NWA 6870) that is really neat as well as a some
 nice larger tatahouine fragments and a nice example of the Whitecourt 
Iron meteorite with export permit, GPS info and pictures.

Check it out, you just may find something you like!
http://www.ebay.com/sch/wanderingstarmeteorites/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562

Thanks for looking and I hope everyone is doing well.
 
Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Ron Hartman

[Greg Catterton]

Sad news indeed. My best goes out to his family.


Greg Catterton
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From: karmaka karm...@email.de
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ron Hartman

WHAT A LIFE !

WHAT A LOSS !

My sincere condolences to his family and friends!

Martin

(who also loves astronomy and teaching)


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: impact...@aol.com
Gesendet: 11.09.2011 07:51:53
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: [meteorite-list] Ron Hartman

Hello Everybody

Tonight I have the very sad mission to inform you all that Ron Hartman, one
of the inventors of the IMCA has passed away.

Please read the note that I received from his son Jim:

Ronald N. Hartman passed away on August 30, 2011, after a brief illness. He
was a Professor of Astronomy and Director of the Planetarium at Mt. San
Antonio College in Walnut, California for 38 years and was well-known in the
community of meteorite collectors and hunters. His passion for meteorites was
kindled when he studied astronomy at the University of California, Los
Angeles under the renowned meteoriticist Frederick C. Leonard, a founder of the
Meteoritical Society. He worked at Griffith Observatory giving public
lectures in the 1960s and began investigating California dry lakes for the 
presence
of meteorites. He discovered the Lucerne Dry Lake strewn field in 1963 and
returned to that site in 1999 to find more of the illusive little black
rocks from space. Throughout his career he continued to hunt for meteorites,
first at Meteor Crater, Arizona (when it was legal) and Odessa, Texas. He
found, traded, bought, cut and sold meteorites as well as tektites and shatter
cones and built up a large collection, part of which is displayed at the Mt.
San Antonio College Planetarium and library. In 2005 he founded R. N.
Hartman, Inc., a company that manufactures, assembles and distributes membrane
suspension boxes worldwide.

He held a B.A. in Astronomy and a B.A. in Cinematography from the
University of California, Los Angeles and an M.A. in Education from California 
State
University at Los Angeles. Ron loved astronomy, he loved teaching and he
loved sharing the wonders of the night sky with his students at star parties.
He continued teaching even after he retired in 2005. He was fascinated by
archeoastronomy and traveled to Egypt to study astronomical alignments in
ancient monuments. He was active in the Pacific Planetarium Association and the
International Planetarium Society. He served as an editor of the Planetarian
Magazine from 1978 – 1981. In 1984 he received the ISP Service Award, the ISP
’s most prestigious honor.

Ron was the oldest son of Albert and Evelyn Hartman. He was born in
Milwaukee, Wisconsin on July 23, 1935, and moved to California at the age of 
10. In
1965 he married Petrea Nelson of Reno, Nevada. He is survived by his wife
and two sons, James and Rick Hartman, his brother Chris Hartman, a nephew
Christopher Hartman and niece Laurel Meable.

If you would like to know more about Ron, please go read the Field Report
he wrote for us several years ago:
_http://imca.cc/old_site/metinfo/metadventures/LDL.html_ 
(http://imca.cc/old_site/metinfo/metadventures/LDL.html)

And I am sure we will talk a lot more about Ron in the coming weeks.
Goodnight.

Anne M. Black
http://www.impactika.com/
impact...@aol.com
President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
http://www.imca.cc/
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Re: [meteorite-list] Kenya Fall Hammers

[Greg Catterton]

Wow, congrats. This is a big money fall. 

10,500 grams recovered at $100 per gram will yield over 1 million in profit...

Can wait to see pics.

 
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- Original Message -
From: Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com
To: Meteorite-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Kenya Fall  Hammers

This is from Mike...

Trying to get this to the meteorite list but tried more than 30 hours ago with 
no response from Art.

This email is premature due to circumstances out of my control sadly.

I am announcing the recovery of over 11.7 kilograms of the new Kenya meteorite 
fall from 16 July, 2011.

I saw the news of the fall on 17 July, and purchased a ticket to Kenya about 4 
hours later.  I arrived in Kenya on 20 July, and on the morning of 21 July, 
less than 125 hours after the fall, I had more than a kilo in hand. Upon 
arriving at the fall location, I met a guy who knew a girl who saw a stone land 
only 5 feet from her in a coffee field while working at ~10:30 am when the 
explosions rocked the sky. It was cloudy at the fall site so no one saw 
anything, just heard massive explosions and then loud whistling and sounds that 
most described as gunfire.

Moments after buying that stone, I went to another house of a boy who found a 
777 gram stone in a coffee field about 30 minutes after the fall.

I stayed 9 days in Kenya, purchasing 10.5 kilos of stones, including the as of 
now main mass of 3.5 kg. The first stone that was reported on the news weighs 
less than 2.5 kg, not 5 kg reported.

Most interesting about this fall is that it also has 3 seperate hammerstones!

First is a househitter that smashed through a metal house roof. I paid to have 
the rooftop cut out and purchased several fragments of the meteorite, including 
more on this trip.

Second was a stone that weighed more than 350 grams which went through the roof 
of a greenhouse, and was witnessed by a man working there, it smashed into a 
metal growing table and exploded into hundreds of pieces. I have all of that 
one and the plastic hole where it was cut out to be patched.

Third is another greenhouse smasher from the same complex, found only 3 days 
ago by workers moving plants out. It broke into several pieces virtually all of 
which Greg Hupe and I recovered. It has been subjected to high humidity for a 
month.


I have built a strewnfield map of all but 3 pieces, with exact locations.

I returned almost two weeks ago for round two with Greg Hupe. We were able to 
purchase only an additional 6 stones totalling 1150 grams.

This fall is not thick, despite intense searching by hundreds of people who 
need the money very badly, they have found little.

We hired 25 workers for the last two weeks, working from 8 am to 6 pm scouring 
the bushland, cornfields, banana plantations, and coffee fields, without a 
single recovery from them.  I hunted and walked a great many miles myself with 
no finds. This was a large fall but seems to be very spread out and large areas 
are either not huntable or are under heavy cultivation as harvest and tilling 
is going on now.

I have already sold several large pieces of this meteorite, I will have some 
for sale, but less than 1 kg.

I will be building a page about it in the next 48 hours as I am in London now, 
on my way home. It is already in the lab under study, thin sections on the way 
and from my own observations I think this meteorite will likely be an L4 or 5.

It has no brecciation or veining other than what I suspect are some metal veins 
seen from the outside, have cut nothing.

Expect to hear more from me as soon as I get rested up and get my site ready.

There will be little of this available, mostly small fragments, I may have one 
or two larger stones available, 279~  g and 313~ gram 100% complete, but not 
cheap!

Expenses were more than $1000 per day not including airfare. Nobody works for 
free in Kenya, to get them to move, money had to come out.

In their own words  I need to be properly motivated. Heard that exact phrase 
more than once.

Michael Farmer










- Original Message - From: Meteorite Mania! meteoritema...@gmail.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:04 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Kenya Fall  Hammers


 Where is all the talk about the newly recovered Kenya fall with
 multiple hammers?
 
 The list should be on fire right now...and where are the pictures?
 We're itching to see fresh crust.
 
 Well done Michael, keep up the good work.
 
 Ty
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[meteorite-list] AD - up to 20% off ebay listed meteorites

[Greg Catterton]

 Hi to all, I am running a sale of up to 20% off listed meteorites on ebay. 
There are some nice deals to be had.
I also have some Tagish Lake that is not listed on ebay. 
Thanks for looking.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/wanderingstarmeteorites/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562


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[meteorite-list] AD - Awesome meteorite sale - Whitecourt, Tatahouine and more!

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all, having an awesome sale on some really nice meteorites

Whitecourt Iron meteorite - (with copy of export permit) $10 per gram

55.6 gram
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5637.jpg

27.7 gram
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5646.jpg

100 grams of Tatahouine (fragments up to 2.6 grams and about 70 pieces total) 
for $1200.00
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5704.jpg

I am also having a very nice sale on ebay listed meteorites:
http://shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562

Thanks for looking, hope everyone is doing good.



 
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Re: [meteorite-list] CAI inclusions

[Greg Catterton]

Speaking of big CAIs... Here is a rather nice 1cm plus CAI from a new CV3 I had 
classified. (still provisional at this time)
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6717Mainmass.jpg

Here
 is the CAI stone, which came from another group of NWA carbonaceous 
stones (not the same as above and still under classification). This one 
is on its way to Germany for research and study (may be the largest CAI 
ever!) but is still nice to look at. I am excited for the results of 
this one...
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5377.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5367.jpg

I have CM, CO, CR and CV that all have CAIs visible.

Greg Catterton
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From: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: E.P. Grondine epgrond...@yahoo.com
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 1:16 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] CAI inclusions

E. P.,

 Simple question - what classes of
 meteorites have CAI inclusions?

Simple answer: any kind of chondrite.

However, most common in carbonaceous
chondrites, particularly CV's. They contain
more refractory elements than the ordinary
condrules they are found with. They were
formed at higher temperatures and many
show signs of repeated meltings. They are
older than the next most early solar system
materials, the chondrules, by 2,000,000
years or so. Two different dating methods
give ages of 4567 my and 4571 my.for CAI's.


Sterling K. Webb

08-07-11, 12:16 AM CDT
- Original Message - From: E.P. Grondine epgrond...@yahoo.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 7:12 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] CAI inclusions


 Hi all -
 
 Simple question - what classes of meteorites have CAI inclusions?
 
 E.P.
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[meteorite-list] AD Whitecourt meteorites for sale, best prices around! plus more!!!

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all. I have two extremely nice Whitecourt meteorites for sale. These are 
priced less then any other I have seen.
Each meteorite will come with a high quality color copy of the export permit, 
an information package 
on the meteorite, full provenance documentation GPS info on find 
location as well as a 4x6 photo of the crater.
This is the best all around offer for a collectors package of this rare 
meteorite with a low TKW recovered.

Youcan see the listings here for these two exceptional packages - the only ones 
I will offer!

27.7 gram
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Whitecourt-Meteorite-27g-w-EXPORT-PAPERS-and-GPS-/390332342894?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item5ae19ee26e

55.6g
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Whitecourt-Meteorite-55g-w-EXPORT-PAPERS-and-GPS-/220816356353?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3369ae3401

I have several other great deals and sales currently running on ebay:
http://shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562

As always, contact me off ebay for better deals - I am always willing to 
working something out if I can. 
Let my feeback speak for itself. I deliver top quality meteorites fast to 1000s 
of happy customers.

Greg Catterton
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Re: [meteorite-list] Micromounts and weights - Standards Vary

[Greg Catterton]

There is a scale called digiweigh that works awesome. accurate to a grain scale 
I use to reload ammo with. They last only about 2 years with heavy use but are 
great in my opinion.

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--- On Fri, 7/1/11, Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net wrote:

 From: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Micromounts and weights - Standards Vary
 To: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net, Met. Mike Bandli 
 fuzzf...@comcast.net, Met. Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com, 
 Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Friday, July 1, 2011, 7:53 PM
 Hi List,
 
 As a non-dealer, but the ocassional passer-on-of-specimens,
 (normally the ocassional  SA batches or other
 noteables), I use an x.xx scale yet have always quoted the
 weight to x.x -(.x) ...with respect to my error potential.
 Quoting at least a -.x (i.e. 68.8gr instead of the scale's
 reading of 68.9 or 68.92) to at least insure satisfaction, I
 don't expect anyone to get PO-ed when it weighs more than
 quoted.  Yet this does invite an inaccuracy element
 with regard to my labels.
 
 I'd love to hear some feedback here, so please chime in.
 
 For the specimens with a stellar provenence
 chain-of-custody, I still check and adjust.  Crumbs can
 fall...
 
 Or, the original seller may have weighed the specimen from
 30K feet :)
 
 -Richard Montgomery
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net
 To: Met. Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net;
 Met. Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com;
 Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:37 PM
 Subject: spam: Re: [meteorite-list] Micromounts and weights
 - Standards Vary
 
 
  Hi Mike and all,
         I absolutely agree. I used
 to use a $500 digital and now
  Use a $135 digital and I consider them both about as
 accurate
  As the other ~ deduct one decimal point for absolute
 accuracy.
  (it is likely far closer than that, but one should not
 proclaim
  a specific weight, IE .007g (7mg) unless one has a
 serious
  balance beam in an air tight setup. A royal pain in
 the a**
  And extremely costly.
         However, for the most part,
 I always sell micromounts - the
  Ones less than 10mg, based on VISUAL COMPARISON. That
 is
  What I look for for my own collection... If I want
 something that
  Is so small, then the size is far more important to me
 than the mass.
         BTW, a micromount has
 traditionally been defined as any
  Specimen that fits into an old style 1 X 1 square
 display box.
  The new, vastly superior membrane boxes are
 considerably larger
  And can hold a decent sized macromount equally well as
 a micromount.
         Best regards, Michael
  
  On 6/30/11 4:52 PM, Met. Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net
 wrote:
  
  A little perspective on milligrams:
  
  There are a lot of meteorite mg weights out there
 that not accurate. We can
  thank these new, cheap Chinese digital scales that
 promise accuracies of +/-
  1mg or less, which are a complete joke. I bought
 one in Tucson to test it
  out against my high-end calibrated machine and it
 was off by about 10 mg on
  average for pieces 50 to 100 mg and 5 mg on
 average for pieces 10 to 50 mg.
  Anything fewer than 10 mg - forget about it. The
 calibration weights it came
  with were even more laughable...
  
  In reality, in order to be able to accurately
 measure mg, you need a machine
  that has been recently leveled and calibrated
 in-situ. I have a recently
  leveled/calibrated mechanical scale whose tare
 changes by the hour due to
  changes in the weather. It even picks up the
 subtle vibration of the
  dishwasher downstairs.
  
  Bottom line - a $100 mg scale isn't going to get
 you the accuracy needed to
  accurately measure true mg. Since most people
 can't afford the hundreds to
  thousands it costs for an accurate mg scale, I
 don't expect most mg weights
  advertised to be truly accurate. They're close...
  
  Just my 2 mg worth (+/- 1mg)...
  
  --
  Mike Bandli
  Historic Meteorites
  www.HistoricMeteorites.com
  and join us on Facebook:
  www.facebook.com/Meteorites1
  IMCA #5765
  ---
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
  [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]
 On Behalf Of Michael
  Gilmer
  Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 4:17 PM
  To: Meteorite List
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Micromounts and weights
 - Standards Vary
  
  Hi Listees and Micronauts,
  
  There has been some discussion recently about
 people buying
  micromounts from a vendor on eBay and not getting
 the weights they
  were promised.  I thought I would throw out
 some thoughts on micros,
  since those are my bread and butter

Re: [meteorite-list] Buyers BEWARE!!!! *** update ***

[Greg Catterton]

I bought several of the displays mentioned. ALL were well under half the listed 
weight. And there were made and from an IMCA member.

Greg Catterton
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--- On Tue, 6/28/11, MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com wrote:

 From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Buyers BEWARE *** update ***
 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 11:29 PM
 Dan,
 
 You are 100% right about everything surrounding
 authenticity and I completely agree with your effort to make
 things right - as does your seller who now has the daunting
 problem and expressed an attitude to address it. It was his
 honest mistake as you see. Dealing in meteorites is really
 hard work. It is easy to empathize with your seller as
 everyone has been in a position where something hasn't
 worked out. When evaluating honesty it is good to give them
 a chance to make things right and if they do, casting them
 in a positive light. That sends all the right messages about
 buying and selling meteorites to the 'public'.
 
 Reputation is everything in the meteorite world and I just
 felt bad for a guy living near Kennedy Space Center - your
 seller.
 
 Anything related to KSC is dear to me for nostalgic
 reasons. Now that the Space Shuttle program is dying down
 the place will essentially turn into relatively minor
 operation. Gone is Apollo, crash are our spirits in Florida
 and no major NASA workhorse program is seriously in the
 works. The rocket garden is on its was to being the rusty
 rocket headstones.
 
 Chalk it up to being too sentimental and hoping you get a
 satisfactory conclusion but without any heads rolling except
 with smiles,
 
 Kindest wishes
 Doug
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Furlan danfur...@gmail.com
 To: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Tue, Jun 28, 2011 11:01 pm
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Buyers BEWARE *** update
 ***
 
 
 Dear Sir,
 The seller still never checked the items before he re-sold
 them, yes
 this is an honest mistake but very irresponsible and he
 sold hundreds
 of these mounts with the incorrect weight and the people
 who bought
 them paid triple the price of what they are worth retail..
 If i was
 him, i would of done exactly what I did today upon
 receiving the items
 and bust a few of the mounts open and actually weigh the
 specimens
 before selling hundreds of them.. And if i didn't own a
 scale i would
 put it on the top of my shopping list ASAP especially
 before selling
 any lunar material with weights in the milligrams. I don't
 feel i
 dragged anybody through the dirt, all i did was report that
 he was
 selling 24mg mounts that actually weighed 7-10mg. thanks to
 me he is
 able to correct this mistake and hopefully he learns a
 lesson.
 Furthermore people from met-list who may have purchased
 these mounts
 can seek resolution as well. I cannot stress the importance
 of double
 checking anything you buy to re-sell or even for personal
 collection.
 I am sorry we do not see eye to eye on this. How would you
 like to
 buy something that has a certain weight associated with it
 and when
 you check it yourself you realize that the reason it weighs
 2 thirds
 less then the stated weight is because the seller never
 bothered to
 weigh it?? If you wouldn't be slightly disappointed then I
 am sorry to
 say there is something fundamentally wrong with you. I am
 not here to
 baby sit sellers and understand their mistakes, I am here
 to do
 business with professionals who i can trust will deliver on
 their
 word. Like i mentioned in my previous update i am happy to
 see this
 seller take action and revise his listings and offer
 resolutions. I
 do not regret making my original post one bit because there
 are
 hundreds of people out there who purchased lunar and mars
 material for
 top dollar and didn't get what they paid for and they are
 entitled to
 know about it. You may think I was being inconsiderate by
 making the
 original post but in reality i was being responsible to my
 fellow
 meteorite collectors and dealers who may have purchased
 these mounts
 in the past assuming the weight was correct as well as any
 potential
 buyers who had active bids on them as well. This is the
 price you pay
 when you do business and mess up.. I am a very trusting
 person, and i
 believe what people tell me.. but when i spend a lot of
 money on
 something i wish to re-sell I will guarantee you 100% I am
 going to
 double check everything to make sure it's is o.k. before i
 put it on
 the market with my name on it.
 Daniel Furlan
 
 On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 9:35 PM, MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com
 wrote:
  I was eager to see your reply, Dan.
  
  I also corresponded with your seller today. He is
 really a 
 conscientious guy
  with excellent feedback

[meteorite-list] AD - nice sale on meteorites and lots

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all. Here is a list of a few nice meteorites and lots for sale. Can ship 
any sales paid for today in the morning. After today, shipping will not be 
available until after the 4th of July. Thanks for looking.

Valera Meteorite slice 3.8g KILLED AN ANIMAL! $120.00
ALH76009 .03g $25.00
NWA 6550 (LL3.7) 80 gram corner cut $130.00
300g of INCREDIBLE Sikhote-Alin individuals for $400.00 - 2 available
Tatahouine Thin Sections (uncovered) $50.00 each - 2 available
Camel Donga 30g lots for $450.00 each
Carancas 30g lot (recovered by Bob Haag)- $600.00
Tatahouine 20g lot for $250.00

I also have some nice items on ebay for sale. See link below. 

Greg Catterton
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[meteorite-list] More bad meteorites - Zunhua wrongs H- when will it end?

[Greg Catterton]

Well... I was scammed with the mifflin-wrong. Lost over $4000 on that... had 
someone steal $300 in meteorites from me over it also...

Now there is another fake meteorite... Zunhua. If you have Zunhua it may not be 
Zunhua, and it did not come from me.

This is what happens when people put $100 per gram prices on OCs.

More to come on this...

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[meteorite-list] AD - NEW AND AWESOME NWA 6658 Mesosiderite!!!

[Greg Catterton]

Forget digging around ebay and having to search out real mesosiderites from 
PLATEAU PUTORANO meteorwrongs and small pieces of real Mesosiderite.
I have the entire TKW of NWA 6658, a stunning new meso that is simply awesome.

Be it slices or whole stones, I have something for anyone who wants some.
At $7.00 per gram this is the best meso on the market for the best price. With 
only about 200g known, it wont last long.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6658Meso230g.jpg

You can also see some pieces on ebay, simply search NWA 6658
Thanks for looking.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Free Shipping

[Greg Catterton]

I have found $5 will cover overseas postage most the time. When shipping 
outside the USA, I use more bubble rap and it also takes more time to fill out 
customs forms etc. Then you factor in cost of bubble mailer, ink, paper  etc... 
a lot of people dont think about the added costs for secure shipping.

Greg Catterton
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--- On Thu, 6/9/11, almi...@localnet.com almi...@localnet.com wrote:

 From: almi...@localnet.com almi...@localnet.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Free Shipping
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Thursday, June 9, 2011, 6:22 AM
 Hi Matthew and all,
 
 Odd as I never view Alaska and Hawaii as not part of the
 USA only a bit further away.
 
 One thing that I do post in my adds are, No shipping to
 certain countries because of extreme trouble with that
 countries mail service. There are a few places like that and
 some people have had too much trouble dealing with those
 countries so I simply don't ship to those places.
 
 When their citizens tell them to clean things up and they
 become reliable then we'll be glad to ship then.
 
 Quoting mmar...@meteoritetreasures.com:
 
  Hi Chris  List,
  
  I've had many say that Hawaii doesn't count.  I
 guess they failed 3rd  grade geography.
  
  I am constantly frustrated with ignorant sellers who
 charge more for  shipping to Hawaii.  Especially
 for Priority Mail.  Hawaii is part of  the US and
 therefore flat rate is the same cost!  And First
 Class  price differences are minimal/  Oftentimes
 people try to charge way  more...sigh...
  
  Many listings often say will ship to lower 48
 contiguous states only  ...I often wonder why...lazy I
 guess.  They more often than not use  USPS
 too...such a pity...I take my business elsewhere.
  
  Hawaii is often treated like a foreign country when it
 comes to  shipping.  I sympathize with your
 frustration, Chris.
  
  
  Matthew Martin
  Meteorite Treasures
  www.meteoritetreasures.com
  
  
  
  I wish dealers especially on EBay wouldn't advertise
 Free Shipping  when it only applies to U.S.customers.
 The rest of us (non U. S.) get  hit with high shipping
 costs.
  
  Chris Spratt
  (Via my iPhone)
  
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[meteorite-list] AD - awesome meteorite sale with cant miss prices

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all, hope everyone is doing well.
I have a few items to offer for sale - pictures and more info on request.

Carancas recovered by Bob Haag - $30 per gram - 1 gram minimum.
Tatahouine - $10 per gram - 10g minimum and stones under 2g each
Camel Donga - $15 per gram - 1 gram minimum.
NWA 6658 Mesosiderite - $5 per gram with 1 gram minimum.
Sikhote-Alin individuals - $2 per gram with 10g minimum.
NWA 5363 (paired with NWA 5400) $30 per gram (BEST PRICE I HAVE SEEN ON THIS 
MATERIAL!)
Orgueil - 70mg for $105
NWA 6550 (LL3.7) $3 per gram
115g NWA  Ureilite (currently being classified) make offers
NWA  CC tkw1950 (currently being classified) complete stones - $5.00 per 
gram

Buy a lot, I will offer even better prices. Thanks for looking!

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Re: [meteorite-list] Re : Re : Moroccan business meteorite is suffering

[Greg Catterton]

But that there is the very dangerous and terrible downside to meteorite 
selling. Eventually most will be crumbs and sub gram samples that offer little 
to no scientific value. 

So many forget that while this is a hobby for some, scientists and researchers 
have made careers out of studying these wonderful rocks from space. Its not 
always about the dollar and thats the one ingredient of the Meteorite men that 
is so troubling. I know if there is no money values viewers may not tune in, 
but its more like a cash for treasures show then a science show with so much $$ 
flashing around after every find. 
(not a jab at the show, I think its great to draw in new collectors)


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--- On Sun, 6/5/11, Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re : Re : Moroccan business meteorite is 
 suffering
 To: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Sunday, June 5, 2011, 8:46 PM
 I've been saying it for years - buy
 low as possible, sell high.
 
 Go on open market, buy a $10 micromount.
 
 Cut that 1-inch square micro into 10 smaller squares and
 sell each
 square for $5.
 
 If you cannot afford a saw, whack the micro with a hammer
 and sell
 each piece for $5.
 
 Bingo, you have just quintupled your money before expenses
 and overhead.
 
 Do this on 50-100 micros a month and your rent is paid.
 
 Lather rinse repeat.
 
 There is so much profit potential in meteorites - even with
 the
 wholesale prices climbing.  The key is adjusting one's
 business model.
 
 The old-school business model says to take that 1-inch
 square micro
 you bought for $10 and resell it (intact) to a single buyer
 for $20 or
 $25.  That same business model also says to do it on
 eBay where now
 give almost 30% of your gross revenue to a
 multi-billion-dollar
 corporation.  If people cling to that business model,
 they will watch
 their profits dwindle to the level they could make selling
 stamps,
 Pokemon cards, or anything other collectible.
 
 Embrace the Bessey Speck!  ;)
 
 Best regards,
 
 MikeG
 
 
 
 On 6/5/11, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Carl, your analogy is so flawed it isn't worth debate.
 When profits dwindle
  it's time to find another business. Welcome to free
 trade and capitalism
  Aziz.
 
  Bill
 
 
  
  Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 19:43:16 -0400
  From: cdtuc...@cox.net
  To: parkforest...@hotmail.com;
 azizhab...@yahoo.com
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re : Re : Moroccan
 business meteorite is
  suffering
  CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 
  Bill,
  Aziz's worries are very real here.
  Yes, in an ideal world you are correct. But,
  Aziz and others make their living buying and
 selling meteorites. No. you
  cannot eat them but, the same can be said about
 oil and energy in general.
  These dealers are no better off than oil
 investors. When hedge funds or
  anyone else corners a market as they have. The
 market gets controlled by
  them and if you want to stay in business you have
 to pay the price.
  Remember these hedge funds types have a lot of
 money. They CAN afford to
  sit on the material until a willing buyer comes
 along. It is a lose , lose
  situation.
  Market manipulation is very real and until
 outlawed it will continue to
  put undue pressure on the smaller dealers like
 Aziz and others. They must
  either pay the asking price or go out of business.
 Very sad but true. So,
  Aziz must pay the price and hope he can convince
 others to pay his new and
  inflated asking price. In America the opposite is
 happening with
  meteorites. EBay has forced the prices down. So,
 if you make a living with
  eBay you must adjust . If you make a living with
 Nomads you must adjust.
  Carl
  --
 
  Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
 to have for dinner.
  Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the
 vote.”
 
 
 
   bill kies wrote:
  
   Exactly. When the seller demands more than
 the buyer is willing to pay,
   the seller either adjusts his prices or keeps
 his merchandise. Supply
   and demand is more applicable to necessities
 than extravagances. None of
   us can eat meteorites, well, most of us can't
 or won't.
  
   Extremely rare material is an exception I
 suppose.
  
   Bill
  
  
   
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 15:08:34 -0700
From: azizhab...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re : [meteorite-list] Re :
 Moroccan business meteorite is
suffering
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
CC: parkforest...@hotmail.com
   
   
   
bill
this is not a good theories, at all,
   
offer and demand make the rules of
 prices in the market , there is an
equation
of equilibre between offer

Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook 99th anniversary Meteorite Hunt

[Greg Catterton]

I would love to make the trip!
Wont know until closer to the time however.

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--- On Fri, 5/27/11, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Holbrook 99th anniversary Meteorite Hunt
 To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 2:44 PM
 Hi all,
 
 July 19, 2011 will mark the 99th anniversary of the
 Holbrook fall.
 
 In celebration of that monumental event I am considering
 leading a
 hunt to the Holbrook strewn field – of course this
 depends on how many
 are interested. I am considering one day on the weekend
 (not both)
 prior to the anniversary – either July 16th or 17th. I am
 aware that
 this close to July 4th weekend most people may be out of
 money but
 it's worth a try.
 
 Any and all are invited regardless of experience! If you
 are new to
 meteorite hunting then this is your chance to meet at least
 one
 professional meteorite hunter (who's found hundreds of
 Holbrook
 meteorites)and learn. If you are experienced and would like
 to come
 too, I would welcome the help, as there will likely be more
 beginners
 than advanced hunters.
 
 Typically when hunting the area I stay in the Motel 6 in
 Holbrook
 where rooms are usually very inexpensive ($40-$50 per
 night)
 
 Please contact me and let me know if you are interested in
 joining me.
 It would be great to have a large turn out.  After
 all, I get 100’s of
 requests a year from people all over the country wanting to
 learn
 about meteorite hunting.
 
 Now is your chance!
 
 Email and let me know if you are interested and which day
 works best:
 mrmeteor...@gmail.com
 
 
 -- 
 Rock On!
 
 Ruben Garcia
 
 Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net
 Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/
 Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u
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[meteorite-list] AD - Big meteorite lots sale and others

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all, hope everyone is doing well.
I have some lots for sale that some may be interested in...

30g lots of Tatahouine for $10 per gram
30g lots of Camel Donga for $17 per gram
30g lots of Carancas for $30 per gram
100g lots Sikhote Alin individuals for $1.50 per gram


NWA 6658 - an awesome new Mesosiderite for $7 per gram
Park Forest meteorite winslow house hammer displays $30 each
Tatahouine Thin sections for $60.00 each
NWA 5363 (NWA 5400 paired) GREAT BIG slices for $40 per gram

Taking offers on this - only accepting offers at this time - 
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5377.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5367.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5382.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5371.jpg

Hope everyone is good and thanks for looking.

PS. dont forget to check out my ebay listings...
http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites


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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorwrongs-collect? RE:

[Greg Catterton]

While I wont buy a meteorwrong (would rather spend the $1-$5 per gram on real 
meteorites) I do have a small collection I or others have found or I have been 
given. 
I find they work good in meteorite presentations to show what not to look for 
and common wrong indicators. I will often put a right in with a pile of wrongs 
and kids who pick the meteorite get a free meteorite.

To me, they just are not worth buying. They do help me teach kids, so they do 
have some value...


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--- On Mon, 5/23/11, MIke Antonelli mfranci...@verizon.net wrote:

 From: MIke Antonelli mfranci...@verizon.net
 Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorwrongs-collect? RE:
 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Monday, May 23, 2011, 4:44 PM
 Haha I unintentionally have become a
 collector of meteorwrongs in my efforts to find meteorites!
 The flower bed in front of my house used to be filled in
 with mulch, but Ive switched over to ugly rocks
 somehow...Mike A.
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[meteorite-list] ISO - Cutting a Ureilite questions/help

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all. A quick question... I have a 119ish gram Ureilite that needs cut. It 
is tearing up blades and we cant even get it mounted to thin section.
Its some very tough stuff. Who can cut this? Anyone have advise?
Thanks, hope all is good.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Largest CAI?

[Greg Catterton]

I came across that link while searching for info. Its the biggest photographed 
I was able to find also.

Hard to tell from pics, but I think mine is bigger with a good amount more 
mass. It looks to have some bluish looking crystals in it. 

More pics:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5382.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5372.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5371.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5367.jpg

The CAI looks to be roughly 1 inch across and up to 1/2 inch thick - if it does 
not go into the stone more then I can see. Been tempted to try to remove one of 
the crystal looking things inside it, but not sure if I should try.

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--- On Fri, 5/13/11, Phil Morgan roxfromsp...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Phil Morgan roxfromsp...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Largest CAI?
 To: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Friday, May 13, 2011, 6:19 PM
 Greg,
 Here is a link to a big one Martin shared a while back
 
 http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2008/march/Accretion_Desk.htm
 
 FYI,
 Phil
 
 On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Greg Catterton
 star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  I am looking for photos of largest CAIs. I have
 searched the net, finding few. Anyone have pics of really
 big CAIs? What is the biggest known and whats it from?
  Hope everyone is good.
 
  Greg Catterton
  www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
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[meteorite-list] Off Topic - USPS Space Stamps

[Greg Catterton]

The post office has some cool space stamps available now. Might look good 
framed next to a meteorite collection or to toss a few on a mailer to send a 
friend a space rock. They look really nice.
They are forever stamps, so worse case in 10 years from now, you can still mail 
a letter with them.

Just thought some might like to know. 

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[meteorite-list] Largest CAI?

[Greg Catterton]

I am looking for photos of largest CAIs. I have searched the net, finding few. 
Anyone have pics of really big CAIs? What is the biggest known and whats it 
from?
Hope everyone is good.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Jeff Kuyken Finds his First Meteorite

[Greg Catterton]

Congrats Jeff!

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--- On Fri, 5/13/11, Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net wrote:

 From: Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Jeff Kuyken Finds his First Meteorite
 To: Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Friday, May 13, 2011, 11:39 AM
 A BIG congrats to friend and fellow
 Australian meteorite guru Jeff Kuyken for finding his very
 first meteorite. We were honored to share in the moment and
 it set the tone for what would become an amazing week here
 at Whitecourt. He didn't know it it until this week, but
 Jeff is a natural born meteorite hunter.
 
 I had a first as well - my first taste of Vegemite on
 toast. I have to say, it is pretty nasty
 
 Cheers,
 
 Mike Bandli
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org
 
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 
 Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 5:05:10 AM 
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the
 Day - May 13, 2011 
 
 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/May_13_2011.html 
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[meteorite-list] 1 inch long, 1cm thick CAI

[Greg Catterton]

Here is an awesome 1 inch long by 1 cm thick CAI... It is the most massive one 
I have ever seen. 

Hope you all enjoy the pics.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5295.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5293.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5299-1.jpg


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Re: [meteorite-list] Bogus Specimens, IMCA membership, and honesty issues.

[Greg Catterton]

I too want to thank Jason for his time. That said, PLEASE... anyone who has 
questions about material from me or anyone else, if/when you do, please contact 
the person with the material. If Jason had contacted me originally instead of 
the IMCA, I would have supplied him with a sample to have checked out. 

Its important that we all work together when there are questions or concerns. 
Deal with the people directly rather then going to others. The source is always 
the best.

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--- On Mon, 5/9/11, Michael Fowler mqfow...@mac.com wrote:

 From: Michael Fowler mqfow...@mac.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list]   Bogus Specimens, IMCA membership, and honesty 
 issues.
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Cc: Michael Fowler mqfow...@mac.com
 Date: Monday, May 9, 2011, 11:55 AM
  Hi Elizabeth and List, 
  
  Before I say anything - everyone here should thank
 Jason Utas for 
  investigating and exposing this fraud on his own time
 with his own 
  money. He did not have to do that, but he did so
 because he cares 
  about meteorites and honor. Microprobe results do not
 lie. My hat is 
  off to you sir. 
 
  
  
  Best regards, 
  
  MikeG 
 
 I too wanted to thank Jason Utas for undertaking what could
 be a thankless task.
 
 I've read Jason's posts over the years, and have observed
 that he has a keen eye, and is very informed in his
 meteorite comments.
 
 His are one of a handful of posters to the meteorite list
 that I always read.  
 
 I think the time and effort he spent on this benefited the
 whole collecting community.  Where would we be if he
 hadn't spoken up?
 
 One thing for sure, fraudsters never stop with just one
 fraud.
 
 Mike Fowler
 Chicago
 ebay-starsandrocks
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin, Amiss

[Greg Catterton]

Ok. I cant keep this quite anymore... Screw the lies and secrets. I think the 
truth should be out there.
About Joes awesome stone...

He told me personally and we also talked over email about it... he found it on 
the same persons property that someone else had already stolen a stone from. 

Yes, I know this because he told me directly. No second hand BS. 

He lied to everyone and even had a totally BS story published about his finding 
it under a bridge.

So please, before anyone else goes to say how Joe fed his family, took a trip 
to disney world and what not, he lied about finding it and thats the true story 
behind the Kerchner Stone 
Yes, his family ate, but what about the person whos land it fell on? Ask her 
how her family trip to disney went...

Joe, sorry man, but it had to come out at some time.

I took public one person who stole material from Mifflin, anyone else care to 
out the other? I dont know the whole story, so I will let others tell that 
tale. I know many on this list know of Joes lie and also the other person... 
but I honestly doubt ANYONE will come forward on this.


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--- On Sun, 5/8/11, Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net wrote:

 From: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin, Amiss
 To: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com, jasonu...@gmail.com
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 3:29 AM
 Ahoy there, Jason, Shawn and list.
 Intriguing  situation, Jason. Thanks for sharing.
 And like you Shawn, I'm glad I got my beautiful little
 slice from Joe. I didn't see all that much drama in it,
 though. He put in a lot of work, and found enough to be able
 to both keep some and sell enough to feed his family. That's
 just plain cool, in my book. Thanks Joe!
 Linton
 
 - Original Message - From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com
 To: jasonu...@gmail.com
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:38 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin, Amiss
 
 
 Jason and Listers,
 
 
 This is a very interesting post in the since I have to say
 something doesn't add up. One an anonymous finder contacts
 Carl and has him send cash to a PO box. Red flag. Two
 the phone number is disconnected. Three the transaction
 was done in cash. I have to say with those three elements
 this would have to be a scam, someone got had. If this was a
 legit sale wouldn't it have been done in the correct ways
 via pay pal not some undercover 007 style, sending cash in
 the mail to a PO BOX?
 
 As for testing goes, cant Carl Agee do a terrestrial age
 analysis and also have a cre done which can prove or
 disprove this theory that someone is suggesting that Mifflin
 has two litholgies, which I have to say isnt the case and
 that these stones are not related to Mifflin in anyway from
 the evidence presented by Jason.
 
 Now the question is who was the scammer. I have to assume
 that one this scammer knew what they were doing and somehow
 was or is connected to the meteorite collecting world or
 they are really smart and picked up how to scam meteorite
 hunter 101. First of all they knew of Carl, two they knew of
 the fall, three, they knew of what a freshly fallen
 meteorite looks like and four the meteorite in question is a
 real meteorite but not from the same fall.
 
 I think the scammer is one of us or is connected to one of
 us just because of the circumstances of the event and that
 the meteorite is a real meteorite and has fusion crust. If
 it was a non meteoritest, I think it would have been a
 stone, but this was not the case it was a real meteorite in
 the mists of being a fake Mifflin. This is to good to be
 done by some non meteorite collector but again people are
 getting smarter these days to make some cash. But this means
 that this scammer would have to buy a real meteorite to turn
 around to sell as a fake recent meteorite fall.
 
 All I can say is if I came into this situation I would have
 thought the sale would have been a scam right from the start
 with me sending money to a PO box. Also I am glad I didn't
 buy this stuff I was able to buy some from Joe Kerchner
 which that had some drama in its self as well.
 
 My 2 cents
 
 Shawn Alan
 IMCA 1633
 eBaystore
 http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 jason utas jasonutas at gmail.com
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 Hello All,
 
 My story begins in the summer of last year. I saw some
 strange pieces
 of 'Mifflin' on ebay that I thought looked funny. People
 were talking

Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos...

[Greg Catterton]

No, I am refunding, giving credit and/or exchanges to all who got the material.
While I am taking the steps needed to get 100% of the material returned to me, 
I still want answers that clearly have not been given... like what is this 
stone, when/how long ago did it fall and what it likely is.

Further testing will be done, and has already been set up. 

I want answers and so do many others. Proper testing is the only way it can be 
done. 

I am doing the best I can to be open and honest concerning what I am doing.



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--- On Sun, 5/8/11, michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com wrote:

 From: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos...
 To: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com
 Cc: jimsk...@aol.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 6:58 PM
 Hello,
 
 Does, this mean you are not refunding customer's money now?
 It is clearly not Mifflin and it seems further tests is just
 a delay. If I am wrong in assuming this, then I apologize,
 but it would be best to buy these back now and get them to
 the trash can and out of collections.
 
 Best Wishes
 
 Michael Cottingham
 On May 8, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Greg Catterton wrote:
 
  The slice Jim has is the non Mifflin stone. 
  Jim, sorry, I have tons of emails, just got to yours
 and sent you an email as you must have been posting this.
  I am reclaiming the material and will be sending a
 sample soon to be tested to try to confirm when this fell
 and just what it is.
  
  Greg Catterton
  www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
  IMCA member 4682
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  --- On Sun, 5/8/11, michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com
 wrote:
  
  From: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update...
 and Real Mifflin Photos...
  To: jimsk...@aol.com
  Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 6:21 PM
  Hello,
  
  I think the one you mentioned...is really hard to
 tell.
  Catterton did a part trade/cash deal with me and
 some of the
  trade material was REAL Mifflin that I personally
 found,
  even though you purchased it from him it might be
 the real
  deal, at least on that piece. The time frame would
 have to
  be after July 10th, because he did not have my
 real Mifflin
  until after then.
  
  Best Wishes
  
  Michael
  On May 8, 2011, at 4:17 PM, jimsk...@aol.com
  wrote:
  
  Hi Michael and list,
  
  Not all of the Mifflin photo's on the Met.
 Bulletin
  (IMCA Encyclopedia of  
  Meteorites) are of the real thing. I have
 three photos
  there. One is a  
  slice from Joe's main mass, another is a
 complete
  individual that I  found 
  during my five day hunt and the fake is the
 slice that
  I purchased  from Greg 
  Catterton. I contacted Greg C this morning to
 get my
  refund and  have not 
  received a response. I'll remove the photo
 later. If
  you have one that  looks 
  like this, you've been duped.
  
  Best Wishes,
  Jim K
  
  
  
  In a message dated 5/8/2011 3:47:13 P.M.
 Central 
  Daylight Time, 
  mikew...@gilanet.com
  writes:
  Hello,
  
  Since Jason posted  his discovery, 2 more
 pieces
  of fake Mifflin have 
  been recovered. Taking into  account cut
 loss, I
  think I am almost certain that 
  I have recovered 95% of the  stone that I
 was
  duped into buying.  I will 
  not be 100% certain until all  of the
 pieces are
  returned to me.  Even though, 
  I have not been 100%  refunded for my
 purchase, I
  feel it is important to 
  refund people's money  immediately or as
 fast as
  possible and to get this 
  fake crap off the market and  into the
 trash
  can... or maybe into a lawyer's 
  hand! 
  
  PLEASE NOTE:   If you have any
 doubt
  about a Mifflin specimen you obtained 
  from me ...PLEASE  send me a photo so I
 can
  confirm one way or the other. 
  Especially ,if it does  not look like
 anything in
  the Met Bulletin below. Even 
  if you did not get it  from me, but just
 want a
  second opinion... send me 
  the photo. 
  
  Here is  also a link to photos of Real
 Mifflin.
  Everything posted in the 
  Meteoritical  Bulletin entry is indeed
 REAL 
  Mifflin.
  
  http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=52090
  
  
  Best  Wishes
  
  Michael  Cottingham
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos...

[Greg Catterton]

The slice Jim has is the non Mifflin stone. 
Jim, sorry, I have tons of emails, just got to yours and sent you an email as 
you must have been posting this.
I am reclaiming the material and will be sending a sample soon to be tested to 
try to confirm when this fell and just what it is.

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--- On Sun, 5/8/11, michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com wrote:

 From: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos...
 To: jimsk...@aol.com
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 6:21 PM
 Hello,
 
 I think the one you mentioned...is really hard to tell.
 Catterton did a part trade/cash deal with me and some of the
 trade material was REAL Mifflin that I personally found,
 even though you purchased it from him it might be the real
 deal, at least on that piece. The time frame would have to
 be after July 10th, because he did not have my real Mifflin
 until after then.
 
 Best Wishes
 
 Michael
 On May 8, 2011, at 4:17 PM, jimsk...@aol.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi Michael and list,
  
  Not all of the Mifflin photo's on the Met. Bulletin
 (IMCA Encyclopedia of  
  Meteorites) are of the real thing. I have three photos
 there. One is a  
  slice from Joe's main mass, another is a complete
 individual that I  found 
  during my five day hunt and the fake is the slice that
 I purchased  from Greg 
  Catterton. I contacted Greg C this morning to get my
 refund and  have not 
  received a response. I'll remove the photo later. If
 you have one that  looks 
  like this, you've been duped.
  
  Best Wishes,
  Jim K
  
  
  
  In a message dated 5/8/2011 3:47:13 P.M. Central 
 Daylight Time, 
  mikew...@gilanet.com
 writes:
  Hello,
  
  Since Jason posted  his discovery, 2 more pieces
 of fake Mifflin have 
  been recovered. Taking into  account cut loss, I
 think I am almost certain that 
  I have recovered 95% of the  stone that I was
 duped into buying.  I will 
  not be 100% certain until all  of the pieces are
 returned to me.  Even though, 
  I have not been 100%  refunded for my purchase, I
 feel it is important to 
  refund people's money  immediately or as fast as
 possible and to get this 
  fake crap off the market and  into the trash
 can... or maybe into a lawyer's 
  hand! 
  
  PLEASE NOTE:   If you have any doubt
 about a Mifflin specimen you obtained 
  from me ...PLEASE  send me a photo so I can
 confirm one way or the other. 
  Especially ,if it does  not look like anything in
 the Met Bulletin below. Even 
  if you did not get it  from me, but just want a
 second opinion... send me 
  the photo. 
  
  Here is  also a link to photos of Real Mifflin.
 Everything posted in the 
  Meteoritical  Bulletin entry is indeed REAL 
 Mifflin.
  
  http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=52090
  
  
  Best  Wishes
  
  Michael  Cottingham
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos...

[Greg Catterton]

That is some of the speculation that it may be a new find, or a planted find. 
Once I get some of the material returned, I am sending samples to be tested to 
try to help determine what it is and how long its been on Earth.


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--- On Sun, 5/8/11, Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net wrote:

 From: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos...
 To: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com, 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 7:49 PM
 Hello List and Michael C.
 
 A huge compelling question is what the fake Mifflin
 really isChergach and Bassikounou have been suggested,
 or any popular H5 for that matter, and this relates to my
 intermediate topic question I posted during this thread with
 topic title whole stone concerns ...(I'm still interested
 in a detailed perspective on that as well.)
 
 Michael, 'twould be good to get the fakes analyzed asap,
 but I bet you're already well on your way for an
 answer.  How weird it would be to actually be a new
 find?
 
 Richard Montgomery
 
 
 - Original Message - From: michael cottingham
 mikew...@gilanet.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 1:19 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real
 Mifflin Photos...
 
 
  Hello,
  
  Since Jason posted his discovery, 2 more pieces of
 fake Mifflin have been recovered. Taking into account cut
 loss, I think I am almost certain that I have recovered 95%
 of the stone that I was duped into buying.  I will not
 be 100% certain until all of the pieces are returned to
 me.  Even though, I have not been 100% refunded for my
 purchase, I feel it is important to refund people's money
 immediately or as fast as possible and to get this fake crap
 off the market and into the trash can... or maybe into a
 lawyer's hand!
  
  PLEASE NOTE:  If you have any doubt about a
 Mifflin specimen you obtained from me ...PLEASE send me a
 photo so I can confirm one way or the other. Especially ,if
 it does not look like anything in the Met Bulletin below.
 Even if you did not get it from me, but just want a second
 opinion... send me the photo.
  
  Here is also a link to photos of Real Mifflin.
 Everything posted in the Meteoritical Bulletin entry is
 indeed REAL Mifflin.
  
  http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=52090
  
  
  Best Wishes
  
  Michael Cottingham
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin, Amiss

[Greg Catterton]

I first want to say that Carl has made things right with me.
Secondly, I am fairly sure most of the material has been made known to the 
buyers at this time and steps have been taken to make things right with them.

Upon being informed of this, I contacted the person who did the testing and 
they confirmed the results. I have dealt with him, and trust his work 100%. 

I hope those that are following this understand I was sold a stone that was 
told to me was mifflin and have done what I needed to help resolve this issue 
and show that I have done nothing under handed.

On a side note, and I learned of some of this from this issue...

Two people reportedly stole meteorites from the land owners in WI. 
Large ones... 
One made a totally BS story of it being found under a bridge that was published 
and upon reading is really laughable with many holes that most would readily 
pick out... I know because he told me directly. The other... while I dont know 
full details, many others do, but remain quite.

WHY has this activity not been addressed and just swept up under the rug?
Surely these actions need addressed just as this does. 

I want to make it clear that while I am not attempting to cast blame or 
redirect this issue, there is more going on that still remains a little secret 
to those that know and it too should come out.

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--- On Sat, 5/7/11, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin, Amiss
 To: jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 10:31 PM
 Jason,  
 You raise several good points and analysis.  One
 further question that should be asked is how many grams of
 this rock were put into the market as Mifflin? And have they
 made their way into the gene pool to how many buyers and
 sellers and yet to reproduce more offspring? Dirk
 Ross...Tokyo
 
 
 --- On Sun, 5/8/11, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin, Amiss
  To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 10:12 AM
  Hello All,
  
  My story begins in the summer of last year.  I saw
  some strange pieces
  of 'Mifflin' on ebay that I thought looked funny. 
  People were talking
  about the meteorite having two lithologies, but...the
  slices and
  individuals that I saw looked 'off.'  A select few
  looked like
  H-chondrites, and they had the telltale signs of wear
 that
  freshly-imported Moroccan falls bear: worn edges,
 exposed
  metal flakes
  on protruding corners (where the fusion crust had been
 worn
  off due to
  improper packing), etc.
  
  At the time, I did nothing but send a private email to
 Anne
  Black
  notifying her of my suspicions.  I spoke with some
  other prominent
  list-members addressing it, and they all agreed that
 the
  material
  looked funny, but that nothing could be done about it
 given
  the
  required burden of proof.
  
  So, I sat on my hands for several months.
  
  Just over a month ago, I saw a piece of the
 funny-looking
  'Mifflin' on
  ebay. It looked similar to some pieces that I
 remembered
  seeing on
  ebay months before, and, being an end-cut, I was able
 to
  see both the
  stone's funny-looking inside -- and the apparent
 metal
  grains on the
  stone's exterior.
  
  I used the 'buy-it-now' option to purchase the
 end-cut, and
  it
  arrived while Peter and I were in Morocco.  When we
  returned, I
  promptly shipped the end-cut off to Tony Irving of
 the
  University of
  Washington; he agreed to analyze the stone posthaste.
  
  The results came back, but Tony wanted to wait until
 the
  probe was
  recallibrated so that he could run it again to be
 sure.
  
  Lo and behold, he did confirm that my end-cut was an
  equilibrated
  H-chondrite, with an olivine Fa of 18.6.  For
  comparison, Chergach and
  Bassikounou both have Fa contents of 18.4 and 18.6,
  respectively.
  
  University of Madison, Wisconsin performed most of the
 work
  on the
  Mifflin fall.  Between them and the Field Museum,
 over
  twenty separate
  stones were analyzed.  They were all L5.  Mifflin
  is classified as an
  L5, with an Fa of ~24.9 +/- 0.2.
  
  I then sent Tony the link to the ebay auction so he
 could
  confirm that
  the piece that he had analyzed was indeed the piece
 that I
  had sent
  him.  He did.
  
  I purchased my end-cut from Bryan Scarborough (IMCA),
 who
  purchased it
  from Michael Cottingham, who purchased it from Greg
  Catterton (IMCA),
  who purchased the stone with Carl Esparza from the
 finder.
  
  Carl told me the following story over the phone:
  He was contacted out of the blue by someone hunting
 in
  the Mifflin
  strewn-field.  According to Carl, the finder stated

Re: [meteorite-list] OT - OBAMA BIN LADEN DEAD!

[Greg Catterton]

LOL. 


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--- On Sun, 5/1/11, Eric Wichman e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote:

 From: Eric Wichman e...@meteoritesusa.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT - OBAMA BIN LADEN DEAD!
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 10:50 PM
 I know you meant OSAMA not OBAMA
 right?
 
 On 5/1/2011 7:44 PM, Ruben Garcia wrote:
  Just heard the monster is dead!  FOX and CNN
 
     
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Re: [meteorite-list] OT - BIN LADEN DEAD - Hitler announced same day

[Greg Catterton]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/may/1/newsid_3571000/3571497.stm

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--- On Sun, 5/1/11, Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net wrote:

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 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT - OBAMA BIN LADEN DEAD!
 To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 11:58 PM
 Obama gets to wave a birth
 certificate AND a death certificate in the same week!
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[meteorite-list] AD - crazy numbers meteorite sale

[Greg Catterton]

I have some unusually priced meteorites listed for sale on ebay... 

Lunar thin sections for $88.88?

Worth looking at...

http://shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562

Hope everyone is good!

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Re: [meteorite-list] My first classification - NWA 6696 (LL3.6)

[Greg Catterton]

Way to go Mike, congrats! 
I am happy to say this piece:
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/Meteorites/chondrules/slice-close-chondrules-rough.jpg
Is sitting in my display case now with a NWA number, very cool!


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--- On Fri, 4/29/11, Galactic Stone  Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Galactic Stone  Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] My first classification - NWA 6696 (LL3.6)
 To: Larry Atkins thetop...@aol.com
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Friday, April 29, 2011, 2:28 PM
 Hi Larry, Gary and List,
 
 Here are some photos of NWA 6696 -
 
 http://s268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/Meteorites/chondrules/
 
 I have a few more on my HD somewhere, but there isn't much
 to see on
 such a small stone.  My only regret is that the stone
 is so small.
 The matrix is wall-to-wall chondrules, many of which are
 surrounded by
 a thin rim of metal.  This stone just goes to show (as
 Larry said)
 that visual pairings are misleading.  I'd seen photos
 of CR stones
 that looked exactly like my specimen.  The main reason
 I submitted it
 is because I was confident it was a CR.  Then I was
 pleasantly
 surprised by the LL3.6 classification, given the presence
 of
 visually-abundant metal.  A large stone like this
 would produce some
 very attractive slices.
 
 Of course, like many chondrule-rich OC's, the look is not
 improved by
 polishing.  The chondrules darken and become invisible
 when polished
 (except for a few of the whitish colored ones).  So I
 left one side of
 my remaining slice unpolished.
 
 By virtue of numbers, this LL3.6 is more scarce than a
 CR.  There are
 115 approved CR meteorites and only 16 LL3.6 stones. 
 It's good to
 know that my stone is in good company with Parnallee and is
 sitting in
 a UCLA cabinet where it might contribute to science in some
 way.  :)
 
 Best regards,
 
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 On 4/29/11, Larry Atkins thetop...@aol.com
 wrote:
  Hi Mike, List,
 
  Congrat's on your classification!
 
  The way you described the meteorite as having armored
 chondrules and
  thinking it was possibly a CR, then finding out it's
 an LL 3.6 made me
  think of a very similar scenario that has recently
 played out for me. I
  thought a chondrite I bought in 2008 was possibly a CR
 as did some
  other list members and it turned out to be an LL 3.8.
 I'd like to see
  pictures of yours Mike, I wonder if it looks similar.
 Here's a link to
  pic's of my new classifications, NWA 6581, ( LL 6) and
 NWA 6582, the LL
  3.8.
 
  http://s934.photobucket.com/albums/ad190/alienrockfarm/
 
 
  I saw that yours is 1 of only 16 meteorites with that
 classification,
  so despite its unassuming status amongst a pile of
 lunars and such,
  it's still a rarity!
 
 
  Sincerely,
  Larry Atkins
 
  IMCA # 1941
  Ebay alienrockfarm
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Galactic Stone  Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
  To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Sent: Fri, Apr 29, 2011 11:41 am
  Subject: [meteorite-list] My first classification -
 NWA 6696 (LL3.6)
 
 
  Hi List,
 
  Some new meteorites were added to the Met Bulletin
 today, including
  some new lunars.
 
  Hidden amongst the more exciting lunars is an
 unassuming LL3.6 - NWA
  6696.
 
  This small 10g stone came in a batch of unclassified
 NWA that I
  purchased about 3 years ago.  Upon windowing this
 small stone, I saw
  an adundance of armored chondrules.  At first
 glance, it resembled a
  CR type.   I posted some photos to this
 list, a minor discussion
  ensued, and then the sample went off to the lab to be
 looked at by Dr.
  Alan Rubin.  Of course, it's not worthwhile for
 anyone to classify
  such a small OC when the 20/20 classification sample
 would only be 2
  grams.  So I offered to reverse the usual 20/20
 arrangement - I'd keep
  2 grams and the lab could keep the 8g main
 mass.  Now the
  classification is official.
 
  I was hoping to sneak my name into the literature, but
 alas, I didn't
  get to see my name in lights. LOL
 
  It should be noted, that for collectors, this is going
 to be one of
  those impossible to acquire NWAs.  Given the low
 TKW and that 80% of
  the mass is sitting at UCLA, that leaves a scant 2g on
 the collector
  market.  A while back, I swapped a small endcut

Re: [meteorite-list] Congrats to the Count on Stump Springs 083. :)

[Greg Catterton]

Way to go Count! 

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--- On Mon, 4/25/11, Larry Atkins thetop...@aol.com wrote:

 From: Larry Atkins thetop...@aol.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Congrats to the Count on Stump Springs 083. :)
 To: meteoritem...@gmail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 7:35 PM
 I've been set straight, should've
 looked into it before hitting the 'send' button!
 Nice find Count!
 
 
 Sincerely,
 Larry Atkins
  
 IMCA # 1941
 Ebay alienrockfarm
  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:48 pm
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Congrats to the Count on Stump
 Springs 083. :)
 
 
 It's official - http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=52752
 
 Congrats all around!  :)
 
 
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[meteorite-list] AD - AWESOME meteorites for sale!

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all, I have about 110 meteorite listings on ebay currently. 
There is some really nice material at good prices.
Take a look, you just may see something you like!

http://shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562

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[meteorite-list] AD - Awesome Camel Donga, Tatahouine, Anomalous CV3, and more

[Greg Catterton]

Hi to all, I (like everyone else) am trying to raise some cash up.
I have some really nice meteorites listed on ebay currently. 

Included is a NEW mesosiderite, NWA 6658 - which is a very neat meso and looks 
great cut or uncut.
Several very nice Tatahouine up  to 5g
Camel Donga slices, end cuts, fragments
NWA 1465 - very neat anomalous CV3
Awesome Sikhote Alin individuals.

Feel free to make offers for off ebay sales.

You can see my listings here:
http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites

Thanks for looking.

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Re: [meteorite-list] OT -Oil reserves, the reality

[Greg Catterton]

I think its more very long term thinking by the USA to corner the oil market 
once everyone elses oil supply is gone. The USA will end up being the next oil 
exporting giant. Use everyone elses then use ours.

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--- On Fri, 4/8/11, Tim Heitz midwestmet...@earthlink.net wrote:

 From: Tim Heitz midwestmet...@earthlink.net
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT -Oil reserves, the reality
 To: David R. Vann drv...@sas.upenn.edu, 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Friday, April 8, 2011, 2:51 PM
 Hi David,
 
 340 billion dollars leaves the U.S. every year to buy oil,
 when we
 have all the oil we need right here, its the 24 billion
 barrels at the Bakken Oil Formation in S.D.
 
 Our politicians are running this scam and we are the fools.
 Think of all the jobs this would create
 and onshore drilling would also be much safer against oil
 spills, keeping the money here,  would
 also greatly help America.  Just what are the
 politicians thinking?
 
 Will the oil in the Bakken Formation free us from depending
 on foreign oil?
 You bet it will.
 
 
 We need more money to buy meteorites:)
 
 
 Best Regards,
 Timothy  Heitz -  not Ph.d
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: David R. Vann drv...@sas.upenn.edu
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 1:16 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] OT -Oil reserves, the reality
 
 
  
  Thought maybe it was time to change the thread title,
 and maybe stop this
  non-meteorite thread. In truth, I am responding to
 correct some factually
  inaccurate statements.
  
  Guido, I respectfully suggest that you investigate the
 facts before you make
  statements like We are played for fools by the career
 politicians in Washington
  who pander to the environmentalists and prevent us
 from tapping our own reserves
  which are larger and easier to obtain than all the oil
 in the Middle East.
  That's why we object to increased pump prices.
  
  Politicians are not pandering to environmentalists,
 they are pandering to
  businesses, I think the events of the last thirty
 years speak very strongly to
  this; attacks on the Clean Air and Clean water acts,
 the Great Recession, the
  Savings and Loan disaster, the Energy trading frauds,
 etc. (I can go on for
  quite a while here, but is not the forum).
  Environmentalists have very little influence on the
 price of oil, if any.
  Rather, market forces determine this entirely.
 Examples: in the late '70's oil
  did not skyrocket because of environmentalists, it did
 so because OPEC was
  flexing its newfound muscle. Oil prices did not jump
 prior to the Great
  Recession because of environmentalists; it jumped
 because of speculators and
  because the oil refiners underestimated demand by
 China and India, resulting in
  inadequte production capacity (there was plenty of
 crude oil). The cost of oil
  is related to the cost of drilling; I could, again, go
 on, but this isn't really
  the forum. Suffice it to say, the price of oil is
 driven by market factors that
  are *not* related to supply, as the supply can be (and
 frequently is) increased
  to meet demand.
  
  So, environmentalists atempting to reduce drilling are
 not affecting the price,
  regardless of how one wants to view it. Most recently,
 the state of Florida,
  under a Republican govorner, decided to limit in-shore
 drilling to protect the
  states' fishing and tourist industries. They were
 deemed more valuable (to the
  state) than the short-term gains from onshore drilling
 - an economic argument,
  not an environmental one.
  
  Our oil prices are lower because we consume so much,
 getting a discount, and
  because we subsidize the oil companies with tax
 dollars. Government subsidies
  for profitable companies are not defensible, yet they
 keep getting them, because
  the politicians are pandering to the industries paying
 for their reelection.
  
  
  The final inaccuracy,  tapping our own reserves which
 are larger and easier to
  obtain than all the oil in the Middle East is the
 most egregious. This is
  simply wrong. The proven resources in the US are about
 22 billion barrels of
  oil; Saudi arabia *alone* has an estimated 270 billion
 barrels. Although that
  number has been questioned as possibly politically
 motivated, it is not
  overestmated by a factor of ten. If we take the 1968
 numbers (before OPEC), they
  had something like 170 billion barrels, still
 fabulously more than our reserves.
  
  Our remaining reserves are not easier to obtain
 (discounting the politcal issues
  related to dealing with the Middle East), as they are
 increasingly deep water
  reserves (whose difficulty was amply demonstrated last
 summer) or in shales,
  which are environmentally destructive and
 energetically and mechanically
  difficult

Re: [meteorite-list] List of meteorites from Vesta?

[Greg Catterton]

Dunite is the Earth version of Tatahouine.

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--- On Thu, 4/7/11, tracy latimer daist...@hotmail.com wrote:

 From: tracy latimer daist...@hotmail.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] List of meteorites from Vesta?
 To: 
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Thursday, April 7, 2011, 3:31 AM
 
 I had thought that dunites were Martian, like Chassigny. 
 Have dunites been identified from other sources?
 
 Best!
 Tracy Latimer
 
 
  Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 22:58:02 -0400
  From: meteoritem...@gmail.com
  To: fips_br...@yahoo.de
  CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] List of meteorites from
 Vesta?
 
  Hi Regine,
 
  All HEDOD meteorites are assumed to be Vestan in
 origin - Howardite,
  Eucrite, Diogenite, Olivine diogenite, and Dunite. :)
 
  Best regards,
 
  MikeG
 
 
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   Hi all,
  
   Is there a list of assumed Vesta meteorites?
  
   Regine
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Re: [meteorite-list] So all meteorites are illegal?

[Greg Catterton]

I just spoke with Dr Ralph Harvey a little bit about his quotes. Given his 
research and history, I wanted to better understand his comments.

It seems his comments were taken out of context to some degree (so he states) 
and mentioned to me he was speaking to meteorites recovered without proper 
export permits and documentation (specifically mentioned Egypt) from countries 
that do not allow export that are openly offered for sale - even by IMCA 
members. 

I know this is a heated issue and there is a lot of opinions, but I think this 
is something we need to address... there are even websites that claim NWA 
meteorites help terrorism! 


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--- On Mon, 4/4/11, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] So all meteorites are illegal?
 To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 3:31 PM
 Thanks Dirk for posting your links.
 
 A direct one to the NY Times article
 http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/05/science/05meteorite.html?pagewanted=1_r=1hp
 
 An interesting quote:
 “It’s a black market,” said Ralph P. Harvey, a
 geologist at Case Western Reserve University who directs the
 federal search for meteorites in Antarctica. “It’s as
 organized as any drug trade and just as illegal.” 
 
 Either Dr. Harvey is mis-informed, mis-quoted or is in the
 camp of misinformed scientists that believe meteorite
 ownership should be illegal to all.
 
 
 Good to see Anne B quoted in the article
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] So all meteorites are illegal?

[Greg Catterton]

I agree with Richard, and also if you do contact him, be very polite. He has 
done a good amount of research on meteorites and is a nice person to talk with. 
I wanted to post about my discussion with him so others knew his comments were 
out of context. After reading the article then researching him, I shocked me he 
would have such a strong stance and opinion based on his work he has done. 

Hope everyone is doing good today,



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--- On Mon, 4/4/11, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] So all meteorites are illegal?
 To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 4:06 PM
 Greg,
 
 I'm glad you spoke with the source, Dr. Harvey. Its good to
 hear he was mis-quoted. I believe that to my core.
 
 As someone who has been interviewed many times over the
 past decade, even being allowed to read and comment on copy
 before it goes to print (believe me, a hugely rare event!)
 the editor has the final say and can and often does change
 and rewrite the article.
 
 I've had writers toil over getting the facts correct only
 to have the article full of mistakes. The facts got in the
 way of a good story.
 
 I'd urge anyone wishing to contact Dr. Harvey, take a day
 and email him tomorrow. Or in several days. I'm sure he is
 getting inundated with calls and emails about this from the
 community. Knowing how busy he probably is, I have no doubt
 he may be regretting commenting about this just because of
 the time sink it could become.
 
 Cheers
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?

[Greg Catterton]

I picked up the smallest complete (I consider complete to mean fully crusted) 
individual of Chergach I have ever seen.
Its fully crusted, oriented and has a roll over lip.
It weighs in at 0.14 grams.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5004-4.jpg

Hope everyone is doing well.

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--- On Tue, 3/29/11, Jeff Grossman jgross...@usgs.gov wrote:

 From: Jeff Grossman jgross...@usgs.gov
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?
 To: 'Meteorite List' meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 2:13 PM
 Of course, there is a continuum of
 meteorite sizes down through
 micrometeorites to dust, all of which have been collected
 on Earth.  The
 smallest named meteorite found on Earth may be Yamato 8333,
 at 10 mg.  There
 are perhaps a dozen more, all Antarctic, below 100 mg.
 
 In Rubin and Grossman (2010), we assert that
 micrometeorites are meteorites,
 and we set the lower size limit for micrometeorites at 10
 micrometers.  Such
 a particle, if chondritic, would weigh a few
 nanograms.  So I would
 therefore assert that the smallest collected meteorite
 weighs ~1 ng.  
 
 The word complete is the difficult part of this
 question.  I don't know
 what it means.
 
 Jeff
 
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 [mailto:meteorite-
  list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]
 On Behalf Of MEM
  Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 1:22 PM
  To: Michael Gilmer; Ruben Garcia
  Cc: Meteorite List
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete
 Meteorite?
  
  I believe there was a .3 gram Canadian find on a snow
 bank.  It was only
  noticed
  by virtue of  the contrast and if I recall the
 finder was a
  technician/scientist
  in the astronomy/space program field(???) walking out
 of his work to go
  home.  I
  don't know the name or where-abouts, I only recall
 reading the story.
  This
  would so far as I know be the smallest find/fall
 single stone class ever
  documented.
  
  Elton
  
  
  
  
  - Original Message 
   From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com
   To: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com
   Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
   Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 12:58:45 PM
   Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete
 Meteorite?
  
   Hi Ruben and List,
  
   That is an awesome little Holbrook.  I have
 a  Chergach pea that is
   only a little bigger than your Holbrook pea.
  
   I'm  not sure if a spheroid counts as a
 meteorite, but I have a vial
   full of CD  spheroids and some of them are
 much smaller than a poppy
   seed.
  
   Best  regards and happy huntings,
  
   MikeG
  
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   On  3/29/11, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com
 wrote:
     Hi all,
   
After seeing this tiny Holbrook meteorite I
 found - I  started
wondering. What is the smallest
 complete  meteorite?
   
Here's mine
   
  http://s260.photobucket.com/albums/ii35/meteoritemall/?action=viewcurr
  ent=met006.jpg
  
   
     This one has got to be in the
 running...
   
This tiny individual  plus two more
 (all about the same size)
  combined
don't even weigh a  tenth of a gram on
 my scale.
   
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Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?

[Greg Catterton]

I think it would be an awesome time for us all to post a picture or two of 
small sub gram complete fusion crusted stones we have in our collection.
Would be very neat to see some of what everyone has!

Here is another of my sub gram complete crusted stones.

Mifflin .90g
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Mifflin90g.jpg

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--- On Tue, 3/29/11, Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?
 To: meteoriteguy.com m...@meteoriteguy.com
 Cc: Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com, 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 4:14 PM
 Hi List,
 
 My two smallest complete meteorites are Chergach
 peas.  One weighs
 436mg (but has a chip in the crust) and the other is 787mg
 and is 100%
 crusted.
 
 I'd post photos, but both of camera batteries are dead, so
 I'll post
 some photos of them later.  :)
 
 Mike Farmer - those Bensours sound like BB's instead of
 peas.  :)
 
 Best regards and happy huntings,
 
 MikeG
 
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 On 3/29/11, meteoriteguy.com m...@meteoriteguy.com
 wrote:
  I have 100% crusted Bensour stones way under 1/10th
 gram.
  Michael Farmer
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Mar 29, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com
 wrote:
 
  Revelstoke BC  - Type: CI fell March 31,
 1965.
  Two small fragments about one gram total.
 
  Vilna Alberta - L5. Fell Feb. 5, 1967.
  Two small crusted fragments 48mg and 94mg.
 
  Probably one of those is the smallest meteorite
 fall.
 
  Chris Spratt
  Victoria BC
  (Via my iPhone)
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[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites and Thin sections for sale!

[Greg Catterton]

HI to all, hope everyone is doing good. 
I am clearing out some material and am offering a nice sale - 

Lunar Thin sections - $150.00
Tatahouine thin sections - $80.00
NWA 6292 thin sections... paired with NWA 5400 - $150.00
NWA  CO3 thin sections - $100.00
Thuathe $6 per gram
Tatahouine $12 per gram and up (depending on fragment size)
Camel Donga $16 per gram
Sikhote Alin individuals, very nice features $3 per gram
NWA 1465 $8 per gram
NWA 869 $1.50 per gram

Pics on request. Thanks for looking.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Polished Butts - pics of mine... lol.

[Greg Catterton]

Anne is correct.
Here is a few pictures of one of my polished butts...

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5309-1.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5310-1.jpg

I keep them after thin section making, its a good way to pass around meteorites 
to kids to hold and check out.


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--- On Mon, 3/28/11, impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com wrote:

 From: impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Polished Butts - Toliet humor aside, what 
 exactly are th...
 To: jimsk...@aol.com, meteoritem...@gmail.com, 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Monday, March 28, 2011, 5:12 PM
 No toilet humor here.
 It is a chunk of meteorite encased in epoxy, polished, and
 from which 
 thin-sections are cut.
 I prefer to call them cores.
 Less possibility of misunderstanding.
  
 Anne M. Black
 _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) 
 _IMPACTIKA@aol.com_
 (mailto:impact...@aol.com)
 
 President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
 _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) 
  
  
 In a message dated 3/28/2011 2:59:26 PM Mountain Daylight
 Time, 
 jimsk...@aol.com
 writes:
 My guess would be that it's a polished endcut.
 
 Jim K
 
 
 In a message dated 3/28/2011 3:54:41 P.M. Central Daylight
 Time,  
 meteoritem...@gmail.com
 writes:
 Hi Folks,
 
 I have seen several  references to polished butts in
 the Met
 Bulletin.  For example, from  this recent entry
 (NWA 6580) approved
 yesterday -
 
 Type specimens  available at Cascadia include 1 piece
 originally 20.0
 g, from which one  polished thin section and one
 polished butt were
 made. Thompson holds the  main mass.
 
 I did the usual Google Search (polished butt) to find
 out  what this
 was, and you don't want to know what the results of that
 search  were.
 Let's just say, that is has nothing to do with meteorites
 or  thin
 sections.
 
 So I have to ask the List - what is a polished  butt?
 
 Best regards,
 
 MikeG
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil

[Greg Catterton]

Prices are interesting with the meteorite. I do know that most of the material 
on the market is stolen and should not be sold. Egypt does not allow the 
export of meteorites and last I read, only about 2kg was approved for export.
Its a nice meteorite, but should be considered illegal just like Berduc and 
others that come from countries with harsh export laws.

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--- On Fri, 3/11/11, Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net wrote:

 From: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil
 To: 'Meteorite-list List' meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 9:13 PM
 Hello List.  Taking a breath for
 a minute following the disaster in Japan, for welcome
 relief  (yet God bless them please) I'll ask about
 this since I've been wondering for a while since the crater
 was announced:
 
 Do we yet have an estimated TKW of Gebel Kamil?  Also,
 those first images of the couple (I've only seen two) of
 complete regmaglypted individuals are somewhere unknown to
 me, but wow!!  Which reflects on my next query...what
 other 'individual-shrapnel' occurance events to we know of?
 
 I'm fortunate to own a few nice sand-blasted pieces, as
 many of us are.  The auction prices seem low to me.
 
 Just curious, and wondering.
 
 -Richard Montgomery 
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