[meteorite-list] Trying to get in touch with Walter Branch and Michael Cottingham

2021-01-27 Thread Mike Bandli via Meteorite-list
Hello List,

If someone has a current contact email contact for either Walter Branch or
Michael Cottingham, can you please send it to me off-list?

Many thanks!

Mike

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Re: [meteorite-list] A vote for the Thomson Structure (and previewing 'The Fall of Aguas Zarcas CM2')

2019-07-01 Thread Mike Bandli via Meteorite-list
Hello Kevin and List Members,

For anyone curious to see the original 1804 engraving found in Bibliotheque 
Britainnique, I put up a brief write-up of the original report a while back. It 
is not linked to the site, however, it can be found here:

http://historicmeteorites.com/BK-Thomson.html

Another vote for Thomson.

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Subject: [meteorite-list] A vote for the Thomson Structure (and previewing 'The 
Fall of Aguas Zarcas CM2')

Team Meteorite:

Richard Montgomery references the 'Thomson Structure' today in a note regarding 
the sale of a Sikhote-Alin. Let me expand upon this topic, which I first wrote 
about in Meteorite (February, 2004), and again in my book in 2005.

On February 6, 1804, the first description of the process that produces the 
mis-attributed 'Widmanstatten Pattern' in Irons was published, written by 
William Thomson. For various reasons, this paper was disregarded until some 
forensic science work was done in 1939 by R.T. Gunther. 

Alois von Widmanstatten (mit umlauts) duplicated the experiment in 1808. Karl 
Neumann published those results as a 'new discovery' in 1812.

Francois P. Gillet de Laumont repeated the process, identifying the etched 
results, and published a paper in 1815.

Carl von Schrieibers, director of the Vienna mineral and zoology cabinet, again 
published the results of Widmanstatten's 1808 work in 1820, naming the pattern 
after him. 

This was an un-earned honor, and many illustrious people have agreed.

R.T. Gunther wrote about this error for Nature in 1939, attributing the 
discovery to Thomson.

Max Hey, Keeper of the Minerals in the British Museum (Natural History) read 
the article and agreed with its conclusions.

F.A. Paneth, in a paper published in Geochimica et Cosmochimica Acta (1960) 
wrote"Thomson undoubtedly...has priority."

Charles D. Waterson published Thomson's biography in the University of 
Edinburgh Journal (1965) stating, "Thomson's discovery and description clearly 
has priority over Widmanstatten."

Marjorie Hooker found Thomson's 1804 paper, and in 1974 wrote, "One of 
Thomson's contributions, long unrecognized, was the discovery of the 
Widmanstatten Pattern..."

Roy S. Clark of the Smithsonian, wrote in Meteoritics (1977) "...Thomsons 1804 
paper seems to have been completely ignored...", then he and Joseph Goldstein 
emphasized "Thomson's singular achievement" in Smithsonian Contributions to the 
Earth Sciences.

Richard Norton wrote in 'Rocks from Space', "Thomson serendipitously discovered 
the figures first in 1804."

In Norton's Cambridge Encyclopedia of Meteorites, he also hoped, "In all 
fairness, this unique texture should have been called the Thomson...Structure."

Hap McSween, former President of the Meteoritical Society, advises that he will 
now credit Thomson with the discovery in all future editions of Meteorites and 
their Parent Bodies.

The Thomson Structure. 

***

I worked the fall zone of Aguas Zarcas before the rains here in Costa Rica, and 
have written a memoir of my experience for the Meteorite Times. It's going to 
Paul Harris for his review and lay-up as soon as I finish this message. Look 
for it in the next issue of this excellent, on-line journal. 

Kevin Kichinka
mailto:mars...@gmail.com
Costa Rica

"The Art of Collecting Meteorites" available on Amazon.





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[meteorite-list] AD: Many New Specimens Available

2019-06-26 Thread Mike Bandli via Meteorite-list
Hello List Members,

I have just finished adding many new specimens to my sales page including
some older numbered meteorites, Old Woman, and some nicely-sized cabinet
display pieces. I will also be adding more specimens all week, so check back
daily and hit refresh.

http://historicmeteorites.com/Sales.html

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[meteorite-list] AD: Aguas Zarcas Costa Rica, Siena Italy Historic Memoir

2019-05-12 Thread Mike Bandli via Meteorite-list
Dear List,

Happy Mother’s Day! I have just finished updating my sales page and am
excited to offer a large selection of our newest carbonaceous fall – Aguas
Zarcas (prov.), Costa Rica. You are invited to view specimens along with
other added items here:

http://historicmeteorites.com/Sales.html

Of note for those historical collectors, I have also listed an original copy
of Tata’s memoir on Siena, Italy (1794).

Thank you for looking!

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[meteorite-list] AD: New Specimens - Nanjemoy Maryland, 1864 Australian Letters with Cranbourne content, and more

2019-01-10 Thread Mike Bandli via Meteorite-list
Dear List Members,

It’s been a long time, but I have just finished an update to my sales page.
New specimens include an incredible example of the Nanjemoy meteorite (fell
in Maryland in 1825) with historical provenance from C.U. Shepard, The
British Museum, and Danish Meteorite Collection. Also, a newly-discovered
set of 155-year-old letters from Australian nobleman, James Bruce, with
content regarding the historic Cranbourne meteorite of Australia:

http://historicmeteorites.com/Sales.html

If you would like to reserve a specimen or have questions, please let me
know. Thanks for looking!

All the best,

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[meteorite-list] AD: New Specimens - New Zealand Iron, Gregory Albumen, AML and more

2017-09-07 Thread Mike Bandli via Meteorite-list
Dear List Members,

I have just finished updating my sales page to include some original Gregory
meteorite albumen photos from the 1890's, a rare New Zealand iron named View
Hill (with Canterbury Museum provenance), some numbered AML tektites, and
some 19th c. historical publications. Also, I am nearly sold out of the
Kennett Australites, Youndegin iron, and Cole Creek:

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Thanks for looking and have a great weekend!

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Re: [meteorite-list] Dr. Art Ehlmann

2017-08-19 Thread Mike Bandli via Meteorite-list
Art was a gracious and humble man who cared deeply about the meteorite
world. He was always happy to help with the research of Monnig specimens and
I am very grateful that I had the opportunity to learn from him. He was an
asset to the community and his legacy will surely live on in the hearts of
many.

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Dr. Art Ehlmann

For all of you who are not on Facebook:

Very sad news today, Dr. Art Ehlmann passed away this morning at the age of
89.
He was a pillar of the Meteorite World, a friend and mentor to many of us,
and will be sorely missed.

If you don't know who he is, please read:
 
https://www.meteorite-times.com/monning-collection/dr-arthur-ehlmann/


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[meteorite-list] AD: Youndegin Meteorite Specimens

2017-06-07 Thread Mike Bandli via Meteorite-list
Dear List Members,

I have just finished uploading a limited number of Youndegin iron meteorite
specimens for sale including some original Youndegin documents and albumen
from 19th century British meteorite dealer James Gregory:

http://historicmeteorites.com/Sales.html

All the best,

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[meteorite-list] AD: Historic Tektites, Cole Creek, a set of historic French journals

2017-04-24 Thread Mike Bandli via Meteorite-list
Dear List Members,

I have just finished updating my sales page with new material including:

-Historic Australites from the Kennett collection/South Australian Museum.

-My last few specimens of Cole Creek, Nebraska. Only $4/gram.

-A 200+ year-old historic set of French journals from Swiss philosopher
Marc-Auguste Pictet. It contains numerous reports on early meteorites from
Biot, Chladni, Thomson's etching (the first etching of a meteorite!), and
many more.

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Thanks and make it a great week!

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[meteorite-list] Cole Creek, Nebraska, Specimens Available

2016-09-16 Thread Mike Bandli via Meteorite-list
Dear List Members,

I am pleased to offer some very affordable specimens of the Cole Creek
meteorite. This Nebraskan H5 is quite nice and is loaded with tiny
chondrules:

http://historicmeteorites.com/cole-creek.html

If you would like to reserve a specimen, please email me off-list or through
my website.

Have a great weekend!

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[meteorite-list] AD: New Specimens - Knyahinya, St. Michel, Futtehpur, and more

2016-06-09 Thread Mike Bandli via Meteorite-list
Dear List Members,

I have just completed an update to my sales page:

http://historicmeteorites.com/Sales.html

I have added a fine example of Knyahinya with Ward's Natural Science
provenance. By the way, Knyahinya happens to celebrate the 150-year
anniversary of its fall today! I have also included a stellar example of St.
Michel, Futtehpur (India), and some odds and ends. If interested, please
have a look:

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Best wishes from Seattle,

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[meteorite-list] AD: New Specimens - Historics, Portales Individual, Hoba, and more

2015-09-29 Thread Mike Bandli via Meteorite-list
Dear List Members,

I have just finished uploading some new specimens to my sales page:

http://historicmeteorites.com/Sales.html

Included in this update are some nice specimens with museum and
institutional provenance including Hoba, a beautiful Portales Valley
individual, some rare US finds, AML specimens, and more. Please have a look
if you have time.

If you would like to reserve a specimen, please contact me privately.

Best wishes,

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[meteorite-list] AD: Many new specimens - Historics, old labels, rare finds

2015-06-11 Thread Mike Bandli via Meteorite-list
Dear List Members,

I have just finished uploading many new specimens to my sales page:

http://historicmeteorites.com/Sales.html

Included in this update are some rare 19th century meteorites with old
labels, specimens from the late (and greatly missed) Walter Zeitschel
Collection, Glenn Huss American Meteorite Laboratory specimens, and many
more. Please have a look if you have time. There are specimens for all
budgets, from around $50 to $5000.

If you would like to reserve a specimen, please contact me privately. Please
note that I will be away at the Ensisheim show next week and may not be able
to reply to requests during that time. I look forward to meeting our
European friends soon!

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[meteorite-list] AD: Past issues of MAPS (2010-2014)

2015-06-02 Thread Mike Bandli via Meteorite-list
Dear List Members,

I have 4 years of Meteoritics and Planetary Science (MAPS) available for
sale (2010-2014). We are moving and I need to lighten the load. Each year is
only $39/shipped, which includes Priority Mail (USA residents only). Each
year fits exactly in one medium flat rate Priority box (costs me $12.65 per
box). If you would like to reserve one, please contact me privately. Thank
you!

Best wishes,

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Re: [meteorite-list] The True Story of Ann Hodges: History¹s Only Meteorite Victim

2015-01-19 Thread Mike Bandli via Meteorite-list
Also, Grady's Fifth Edition of the Catalogue of Meteorites lists Alabama
MNH's weight as 3.68 kg, which is a difference of approximately -165 grams
of the original Hodge's stone weight (assuming the original Hodge's stone
weight was accurately listed by Swindel  Jones in 1954 as 8.5 lbs., which
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To: Rob Wesel; Michael Blood; Shawn Alan; Meteorite List
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The True Story of Ann Ho dges: History¹s Only
Meteorite Victim

Rob, all,

The Hammer stone in the Alabama Museum of Natural History was the stone
that was cored. (Why would the Smithsonian core their stone after already
slabbing it?) 


Provenmire in the 2003 article Sylacauga, Alabama Revisited in METEORITE,
vol. 9, no. 2 states this about the Hodge's stone: An approximate 31 mm
diameter core has been removed from the bottom of the object (34 mm deep)
for internal examination and thin section analysis.  He also includes a
photo of the stone which shows the core hole.

Cheers,

Frank

On Monday, January 19, 2015 6:47 PM, Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list
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Am I missing something, didn't we just establish that the hammer was never
cut or cored and remains 100% intact in the Alabama Museum of Natural
History?

And that the one and only core (plus a slice) was taken from the Smithsonian
second mass?


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To: Shawn Alan shawna...@meteoritefalls.com; Met. Frank Cressy 
fcre...@prodigy.net; Meteorite List 
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The True Story of Ann Ho dges: History¹s Only 
Meteorite Victim

 I believe about 13 thin slices of the core - which are about the diameter 
 of
 A quarter, but only about 60% as thick - total in the entire meteorite
 community. It is always far more expensive than the 2nd stone from the
 Smithsonian (which is not the hammer stone), due to higher desirability
 Combined with a far greater degree of rarity.

 Michael Blood


 On 1/18/15 12:42 PM, Meteorite List 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 wrote:

 Hello Frank and Listers

 And its the second stone that was donated to the
 Smithsonian that is on
 the meteorite market from time to time. I wonder how
 much of the first
 stone that hit Mrs. Hodges is available to collectors?


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  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The
 True Story of Ann Ho dges: History¹s
 Only Meteorite Victim
 From: Frank
 Cressy fcre...@prodigy.net
 Date: Sun, January 18, 2015 11:37 am
 To:
 Shawn Alan shawna...@meteoritefalls.com,  Meteorite Central

 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com


 Hello all,


 The article
 isn't clear where the stones are.  The meteorite that hit Mrs. Hodges is 
 in
 the Alabama Museum of Natural History.  A second stone (3.75 kg) was 
 purchased
 by Stuart Perry and donated to the Smithsonian.

 Cheers,

 Frank


 On Saturday, January 17, 2015 12:23 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:



 Hello Listers

 I
 wish I was a victim from a meteorite Lunar fall :)

 Enjoy the TRUe STORy


 Shawn Alan
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 The True Story of Ann Hodges: History¹s Only Meteorite Victim

 January 16, 2015
 By First to Know


 Getting hit by a falling meteor
 is far more uncommon than getting struck
 by lighting. How uncommon you might
 ask?




 There is only one confirmed person in history to have ever
 been hit by
 one. And she had

[meteorite-list] AD: Pre-Holiday Meteorite Sale

2014-11-06 Thread Mike Bandli via Meteorite-list
Dear List Members,

I am running an early sale on select specimens in preparation for the
holiday season and to help raise funds for a new project. Please see sale
prices here:

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If you have any questions or would like to reserve a specimen, please let me
know!

Best wishes,

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[meteorite-list] AD: New Specimens! Mount Dooling Irons, Armel Colorado

2014-09-23 Thread Mike Bandli via Meteorite-list
Dear List Members,

I am pleased to announce that I have a limited batch of Mount Dooling iron
meteorites available! This lesser-known Australian IC iron seems to be
vacant in most collections, so collectors will be happy to find specimens
from $20 all the way up to $1500 available for sale here:

http://historicmeteorites.com/Mount-Dooling.html

I have also added a few new specimens to my main sales page including a
larger sample of Armel, Colorado, which came out of the University of New
Mexico:

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If you have any questions or would like to reserve a specimen, please let me
know!

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[meteorite-list] AD: Many New Numbered Historic Specimens

2014-06-10 Thread Mike Bandli via Meteorite-list
Dear List Members,

I'm using up my last free ad on the year and have just finished uploading
many new historic specimens to my site. Most have institutional/museum
labels/provenance.

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Thanks for looking and please let me know if you would like to reserve a
specimen!

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[meteorite-list] AD: NIPR Photographic Catalogs and More

2014-04-24 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List Members,

Under Art's new rules, here is my first free advertisement on the year. I am
thinning out a few rare meteorite titles and have decided to sell the
complete set of all four NIPR Antarctic meteorite catalogs. I saw that a
friend sold two NIPR books here recently and it sounded like there was quite
a bit of interest in them.

These are the finest quality meteorite catalogs I have ever seen, recording
the characteristics of hundreds of individual meteorites and thin sections.
Many of which are extremely rare types and examples most of us will never be
able to see in person. If interested, please contact me off list. I am going
to work on photos/descriptions/pricing this morning and will reply to
requests in the order they are received. I would prefer to sell them as a
set of four, so I will give priority to those interested in buying all of
them as a set. If I cannot find a buyer for the set, then I will part them
out individually. Acquiring one of these can be difficult, but finding all
four red books took quite a bit of time and effort, so now is a great
opportunity to get them all in one swoop. They are as follows:

Yanai, K. (1979), Catalog of Yamato Meteorites in the Collection of the
National Institute of Polar Research. Tokyo: NIPR, 188 pp.
Yanai, K. (1981), Photographic Catalog of the Selected Antarctic Meteorites.
National Institute of Polar Research. Tokyo: NIPR, 104 pp.
Yanai, K.  Kojima, H. (1987), Photographic Catalog of the Antarctic
Meteorites. Tokyo: NIPR, 298 pp.
Yanai, K.  Kojima, H. (1995) Catalog of the Antarctic Meteorites. Tokyo:
NIPR, 230 pp.

I will also be selling the entire set of NIPR blue book meteorite
symposiums, which are of equal quality, as well as many other rare NIPR
titles. Just mention it if you are interested in some those as well.

Best wishes,

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[meteorite-list] Wanted: Vatican and Marquis de Mauroy Meteorite Catalogues

2014-03-17 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List Members,

I am seeking original copies of the Vatican meteorite collection catalogues
including those by the Marquis de Mauroy (1913), Ernst W. Salpeter SJ
(1957), and Salvatori, Maras, and King (1986). I already have Brother Guy's
catalog from 2001.

In addition, I need Adrien-Charles, Marquis de Mauroy's catalog from 1909
(Catalogue de la Collection Speciale de Meteorites).

If you have an original copy of any of these available, please contact me
privately with your price. Trades are also welcome.

Best wishes,

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[meteorite-list] AD: Meteorite Auctions Ending Tomorrow

2014-02-15 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List Members,

I have a smörgåsbord of meteorite auctions ending tomorrow:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/historic-meteorites/m.html

Thanks for looking and have a great weekend!

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[meteorite-list] AD: Mezö-Madaras, N'Goureyma, Nininger Books and more

2014-01-24 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List Members,

I have just finished another sales page update and have added some important
falls including a fusion crusted specimen of Mezö-Madaras (19th c. L3
witnessed fall) and N'Goureyma (ungrouped iron and witnessed fall). I have
also added some classic meteorite books including a signed/inscribed copy of
Nininger's Our Stone Pelted Planet, as well as some important titles by
E.A. King and others.

http://historicmeteorites.com/Sales.html

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[meteorite-list] AD: New historic specimens available

2014-01-06 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List Members,

I have just finished updating my sales page to include many important
witnessed falls. Most are ex. museum pieces with labels and catalog numbers:

http://historicmeteorites.com/Sales.html

Thanks for looking and please let me know if you would like to reserve a
specimen!

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[meteorite-list] AD: Historics and more

2013-07-16 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List Members,

I have just finished updating my sales page. I included some nice samples of
Elbogen, Tucson, Bjurbole WITH CRUST(!), a rare 19th c. thin-section of the
Braunfels pseudo-meteorite, Albareto, and some scarce 19th c. publications
and original lithographs.

http://historicmeteorites.com/Sales.html


I am also running auctions with a few 99 centers including wholesale lots of
Agoudal:

www.ebay.com/sch/historic-meteorites/m.html


I will be out of the office for most of the morning, but will reply to
requests as soon as I return.

Best wishes,

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[meteorite-list] AD: New NWA L3 and Fresh gemmy MESO

2013-06-11 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List Members,

This week I received classification results on two beautiful new NWA
meteorites. The first is a gorgeous L3.5 with closely-packed and
well-defined chondrules:

http://historicmeteorites.com/NWA-7823.html


Second is a gemmy and fresh (W0/1) mesosiderite with honey-yellow
orthopyroxene:

http://historicmeteorites.com/NWA-7824.html


If interested in acquiring a specimen, please let me know!

All the best,

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Re: [meteorite-list] Digital Camera for Studio Photography

2013-05-05 Thread Mike Bandli
Hi All,

For years I have been using this inexpensive ring light for macros and
meteorite photography:

http://www.staples.com/V-Light-Full-Spectrum-Clamp-on-Desktop-Magnifier-Blac
k/product_850806

All you do is remove the center flip cover and center glass magnifier and
you can stick your lens right through it. I use this lighting source along
with indirect window light for best results.

My camera setup is a Sony NEX-5N with Sony E 3.5/30 Macro lens. I can focus
at a few cm distance with this great and comparably inexpensive macro lens.

Best wishes,

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To: Greg Hupé
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Digital Camera for Studio Photography

Hello Greg,

If you're going to do a macro lens, you also need a ring-light.

I have a 1-5x (1:1 - 5:1) Canon MP-E, but these days I prefer using the
Canon 100 f/2.8L Macro w/ISM (1:1)  The close-focus on it is only about a
foot though.  At 67mm it fits nicely with most any common ring-light system.

At 100mm, selective AF/full-time manual, it's not a one trick pony in that
it's a pretty fast lens that one can stand-off with and use for a lot of
different tasks with nice soft bokka, ultrasonic focus and lens
stabilization, so I can also use it out in the field for things like
photographing bugs and still get enough depth-of-field to get environmental
cues.

http://www.cabirds.com/index.php/Not-Birds/Bees/beefour

http://www.cabirds.com/index.php/Not-Birds/Damsel-and-Dragonflies/Damsel_033
3

If you're setting up a lab environment, the Canon 65mm MP-E, with a close
focus of 0.8ft and 1-5x magnification can fill an entire full-frame from a
single water droplet.  Strictly manual focus, no bells and whistles, it's
all about the macro - useless for anything else.

--- Jodie



Sunday, May 5, 2013, 1:35:55 PM, you wrote:

 Thanks Jim!

 Sounds like your 'ingredients' of parts will go nicely with my custom 
 made 'Transformer Studio' I built a couple years ago!! ;-)

 Best Regards,
 Greg

 
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 Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 3:38 PM
 To: Greg Hupé ; Meteorite List
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Digital Camera for Studio Photography

 Greg,
 Are you handy at building things?

 Olympus BH microscope base with adjustable X-Y Stage Nikon Bellows 
 Various lenses Microscope objective adapter up to x40 E-plan A chunk 
 of channel iron A two light adjustable microscope lighting system.

 Nikon D6000 is a good base!  the lens and mounts are the key however.

 Or a cannon setup (bellows and base camera)

 Any you will have one heck of a nice macro set-up that will rival some
 $20,000 microscopes and more!

 Jim


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 Hello All,

 I am starting to look for a DSLR camera for studio photography of 
 meteorites, minerals and similar. I figured the best source for 
 opinions would be here so anyone with experience in this I would 
 appreciate your suggestions. I am looking for something that has the 
 best quality for price but want to consider all possibilities 
 regardless of cost so I can improve my images. I will also like 
 suggestions on different lens options to go from macro to ??mm so I 
 can get microscopic depth along with stand back and photo a large 
 meteorite if needed without changing lenses. As I read a little 
 today, the megapixel capability is something I should consider.

 Thank you in advance on whatever info and suggestions you can provide!

 Best Regards,
 Greg

 
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[meteorite-list] Wanted: George F. Kunz Meteorite Catalogue 1894

2013-03-26 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List Members,

I am looking for the following reference:

Kunz, G.F. (1894). Catalogue of the Collection of Meteorites Belonging to
George F. Kunz, New York City, N.Y., March 1, 1894.

If you have an original copy for sale or have access to one, please contact
me privately. Thank you!

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Re: [meteorite-list] Wanted: George F. Kunz Meteorite Catalogue 1894

2013-03-26 Thread Mike Bandli
Hi Peter,

You are correct. I just discovered that, according to AMNH, they have the
only self-published copy. I'll work on obtaining a copy as it would be of
great interest to myself and many others.

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Hi Mike,

Was that ever published? I thought that it was a typewritten list of
his collection.

Thanks,

Peter

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Dear List Members,

I am looking for the following reference:

Kunz, G.F. (1894). Catalogue of the Collection of Meteorites Belonging to
George F. Kunz, New York City, N.Y., March 1, 1894.

If you have an original copy for sale or have access to one, please contact
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[meteorite-list] Need help in locating a recent meteorite article The Rosewood Box

2013-03-13 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List Members,

I am trying to locate a nice article I came across about a year ago, but
cannot seem to remember which publication it was in. It was titled something
like The Rosewood Box and was about a box of antique and historic
meteorite thin sections that are preserved (at Harvard or Amherst?) from an
important and early meteoriticist/mineralogist. If someone can kindly tell
me the reference for it, it would be greatly appreciated. I believe it was
either MAPS, Elements, or Meteorite Magazine.

All the best,

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[meteorite-list] AD: New Specimens, old falls, and more

2013-02-27 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List Members,


I uploaded many new specimens to my sales page today. There are quite a few
numbered and ex. museum pieces as well as some neat odds and ends:

http://www.historicmeteorites.com/Sales.html


Additionally, I have uploaded many specimens to eBay including a handful of
99 cent starting auctions and some nice unclassified stones.

www.ebay.com/sch/historic-meteorites/m.html


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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-01-04 Thread Mike Bandli
If a meteorite falls from the sky and no one is there to hear it, does it
make a sound?

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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

Right, Anne. That is why they are referred to as a Fall or a Find.
Concise!
Cheers, Fred Hall

 Every single meteorite ever found on Earth is necessarily the result 
 of a fall, they are not native to Earth. The only difference is that 
 some falls are seen, witnessed, and some, the vast majoriry, are not.

 So calling them Observed or Unobserved falls is logical. That is what 
 happened to all of them.
 That is simple reality.


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An unobserved fall is two words to describe the one word that has 
 been used for a century, Find. The one word Find is good enough 
 for the Catalogue of Meteorites, it was good enough for Harvey 
 Nininger, and it is what I shall always use. Keep it concise.
 Regards, Fred Hall



  That would make sense for say New Orleans, where a stone went through 
 a
 house and no one in their right mind would suggest that it did not
 fall at
 that time say between 8 am and 4 pm when there was no hole in the
 house,
 yet it was not seen to fall.
 An old rock found in a field does not suggest anything about fall
 date. So
 it is a find, something never really argued against until now?
 It has crust which can suggest it is not thousands of years old, most
 of
 our Springwater meteorites have black and blue crust but nevertheless
 it
 is a find.
 Michael Farmer

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 4, 2013, at 10:28 AM, valpar...@aol.com wrote:

 An unobserved fall is, well, a fall that was not observed, in 
 contradistinction to a fall that was observed. The terminology of 
 the Meteoritical Bulletin Database is Observed fall: no.

 The information being conveyed is NOT that the meteorite fell but
 that
 the fall was not observed.

 In general, the questions about falling and finding are:

 1) was the fall observed?
 2) if so, when was it observed?
 3) if not, is there any guesstimate of when it fell?
 4) regardless of weather it was observed or not, when was it 
 actually found?

 Paul Swartz
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 What is an unobserved fall? Every meteorite fell at some point. I 
 have thousands of unobserved falls in my collection.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Poyet T-shirt (and French Fall)

2013-01-02 Thread Mike Bandli
I have always wondered what the original reference for Poyet's illustration
was and have been unable to find it through any of my resources. As Zelimir
mentioned, Nininger did not credit or reference Poyet's illustration, which
was used on the cover of Find a Falling Star (maybe we both missed it?). I
also checked every entry in Brown's bibliography of meteorites for
1882-1884, including  Lespiault's and Forquignon's original report on the
fall at St. Caprais in the Comptes des Rendus (1883, V97, pp 1022-23), and
came up no reference for the illustration.

As others have suggested, the most likely event depicted is the St. Caprais
fall. This fall produced a daytime fireball, which would seem to be
consistent with Poyet's illustration. One will note that there are many
farmers about and the horse is saddled with the hay carriage. This would
seem to be an unlikely scene if it were nighttime, so I am assuming this is
a daytime depiction. Thoughts?

It is also possible that Poyet's illustration may have been published as a
stand-alone print. Either way, I am very interested in finding the original
reference or source for it! Keep hunting!

All the best,

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Hello Bernd and all concerned,

Bernd, I read the original French fall report for St.  
Caprais-de-Quinsac and the description indeed could correspond to the
painting.

When Werner asked the question, I was sure I had spotted in due time a print
of this painting in some book or pamphlet of my library where it might well
be some indication of the bolide (or fall place) name.
I went all through my numerous meteorite books but unfortunately, so far, I
could find nothing.

However, my copy of the well known Nininger's Find a Falling Star  
has its dust jacket cover with the same painting reproduced.

I looked for details within the different editor's writings and also along
some chapters regarding this cover but could not even find mention of this
painting on cover.

The last edition of Meteorites form A to Z reports only 3 falls occurring
in 1883, with St. Caprais the only one from France.
So, for me, you had solved that enigma, unless someone can contradict this.

I second Twink and others' appreciations of your fascinating ability to
access various data and find reference for anything concerning meteorites
and related.
Bernd, you remain our invaluable Extra-encyclopedia!

To all, I renew my very sincere wishes for happiness, health and love (in
the order of your choice) for this New Year 2013.

Zelimir
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Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de a écrit :

 Hello Bill, Werner Down Under, Listees, Listoids,

 First of all: A happy, healthy, prosperous 2013 to all of you!

 Werner wrote:

 It seems it doesn't relate to a specific fall
 since there was none in France in the year 1883.

 Maybe this one:

 St. Caprais-de-Quinsac (L6; gas-rich)
 After the appearance of a black cloud and
 detonations, a stone of 282.5 gr was seen to fall ...

 Gironde (France)
 Fell 1883, Jan 28, 14:45 hrs

 Cheers,

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Re: [meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)

2013-01-02 Thread Mike Bandli

Excellent observation, Bernd! Indeed, the grass is too high for January! The
mystery continues.

Perhaps Zelimir can tell us if there is anything in Lespiault and
Forquignon's report that corroborates any of the features of Poyet's
illustration. Here is a link to the original report (in French):

http://visualiseur.bnf.fr/CadresFenetre?O=NUMM-3053I=1022M=tdm

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Subject: [meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)

Hello List,

I wrote:

St. Caprais-de-Quinsac...Gironde (France) Fell 1883, Jan 28, 14:45 hrs

Sounds good, looks good, ... but:

Have a close look at the date of the fall: Jan 28 !!!

Now, when you compare this with Mike B.'s remarks:

One will note that there are many farmers about  and the horse is saddled
with the hay carriage.

The only conclusion we can thus draw is that the scene depicts an
(imaginary?) event in late summer during the harvest season, probably
August.

Another possibility might be that Poyet so-to-speak merged
two incidents: the fall of the St. Caprais-de-Quinsac meteorite and the
harvest scene.

A case of ... artistic license?

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Re: [meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)

2013-01-02 Thread Mike Bandli
Many thanks for the quick translation, Zelimir!

One other tidbit that might help with searches. The artist's full name is
Louis Poyet (1846-1913). He was a remarkable French artist who specialized
in engravings. It looks like he had many engravings published in numerous
19th c. French magazines, mostly La Nature.

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Hi Mike, List,

Here is a rapid translation of the essentials of the St Caprais fall report:

--
On Sunday January 28, 1883 at 2:45 (p.m.) the whole population of St
Caprais, Gironde Department (ZG Note: This is the Bordeaux area, thus near
parallel 40° North) was frightened by a series of 5 violent shots
(bangs) comparable to cannon shots, which were followed a noise (rumbling
?) resembling a shooting.

People who stood outside their houses noticed a black cloud towards the
direction where the noise came from: the black cloud was like an explosion
smoke, very different from the ordinary clouds covering (that day) the whole
skies.

2 farmers (Perrotin father  son) noticed an ignited object falling in the
South-East direction, so close from where they stood so that they could
notice the exact place where the object hit the ground.

Nobody considered seeking the aerolite the same day. But the next day, a Mr.
Elliot, having consulted the witnesses, found at that exact place a dense
stone weighing 282.5 grams, burried 0.1 meter deep, the hole dimensions on
the surface being 0.06 x 0.04 m. 

The number of shots heard at St Caprais and in the neighboring villages
could assume the presence of other fragments; but the latter, if ever
existed, were never collected (ZG note: it is not said that they were never
FOUND...) .
-

The rest of the text deals with some aerolite characteristics, probably not
worth further translation.

This is thus a rapid translation of the major events of interest for the
issue, of concern. I believe Bernd, who is sure as fluent in French as
myself, would agree.

Apparently this does not trow more light to the mystery as it was obviously
the winter time and even around Bordeaux, there should not be any wheat (or
alike) in the fields

Bernd is right to point out that this painting can be a view of an artist,
possibly painted some time after the event (perhaps in Summer time  ?)

More ideas ?

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Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.nele t a écrit :


 Excellent observation, Bernd! Indeed, the grass is too high for January!
The
 mystery continues.

 Perhaps Zelimir can tell us if there is anything in Lespiault and
 Forquignon's report that corroborates any of the features of Poyet's
 illustration. Here is a link to the original report (in French):

 http://visualiseur.bnf.fr/CadresFenetre?O=NUMM-3053I=1022M=tdm

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Re: [meteorite-list] AML Huss mystery (Taiban b)

2012-12-14 Thread Mike Bandli
Hi Mendy,

What you have is indeed Taiban (b). The original Taiban (b) was found in
1975 as referenced by both Huss and the 1980 IOM catalog. The total weight
was 11.5 kg.

Now, the confusing part. MetBull list Taiban (b) as an LL6 found in 1984
with a total weight of 641 g. If we look at the original reference for this
entry (MetBull 84) we will see that this stone was reported with a group of
New Mexican finds from J.M. DuPont in 2000.

I believe the most likely scenario is that Huss' Taiban (b) was never
officially published and that DuPont's Taiban (b) is a completely different
meteorite, not paired to Huss' specimen. This would explain the different
classifications. Since there was no Taiban (b) officially listed in 2000,
Taiban (b) was assigned to DuPont's stone, even though Huss had already sold
many specimens during the 1970/80s as Taiban (b).  If we could find a sample
of DuPont's material to compare, then we could solve this mystery once and
for all. (Anyone have a Taiban (b) with DuPont provenance?)

This is not the only confusing New Mexican find. These areas of eastern and
north eastern New Mexico produced many individual meteorites during the 20th
c. thanks to efforts by LaPaz, Nininger, and Huss. Some of these meteorites
weren't published until years after their finds, despite being sold as named
specimens earlier. As Bernd mentioned, LaLande and Melrose also have issues,
and there are others...

Either way, Huss' Taiban (b) from 1975 should be the correct one. If
DuPont's is not paired, then, in my opinion, it should be renamed Taiban (c)
or Taiban (1984) and the entries in the MetBull amended.

Hope that helps.

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I have an AML specimen that when I looked it up, the information on the card
did not relate to the information in the MetBul.

The card reads as follows:
Taiban (b), New Mexico
Olivine-hypersthene chondrite (L6)
Found 1975
TKW 11.5kg
Weight of specimen 6.8g
H327.93
The MetBul lists both Taiban and Taiban (b), but neither are an L6, nor
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By the way, the painted number and card number do match.

Any help is appreciated.

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[meteorite-list] Trying to contact Pete Shugar

2012-11-30 Thread Mike Bandli
Hello All,

I am trying to contact Pete Shugar with no success. Has anyone heard from
him or know if everything is ok? Please reply OFF list. Thanks!

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Re: [meteorite-list] Campo crystals

2012-11-22 Thread Mike Bandli
A couple years ago we spoke to a vendor from South America at Electric Park
(Tucson show) who had Campos for sale. We noticed that he was selling Campos
that had strange marks that looked like welding marks. He told us that they
were holes that had been drilled and later refilled with Campo/welding
material. The reason? He said the holes were refilled because they ran out
of C4 to make Campo crystals. Apparently they used to bore a hole in the
iron, fill it full of C4, bury it deep in the ground, then BOOM! Campo
crystals were born. I do not recall if cryo/freezing was involved. He had at
least a dozen Campos that had these welded holes. It was an interesting
conversation to say the least. Kind of sad and amusing at the same time.

Happy Thanksgiving all!

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Hi Folks,

Can anyone explain to me the process used to make so-called Campo del Cielo
'crystals'? The usual explanation, that they are made by shattering larger
pieces than have been supercooled with liquid nitrogen, does not convince
me. If that were the case I would expect more geometric forms with sharp
edges. However, many examples are quite rounded and look as though they have
been (recently) molten. I would be grateful for any observations.


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[meteorite-list] Book Wanted: Die Meteorite by Hahn (1880)

2012-09-29 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List Members,

I am looking for an original copy of Otto Hahn's 1880 Die Meteorite
(Chondrite) und ihre Organismen to purchase or trade for.

Hahn, O. (1880). Die Meteorite (Chondrite) und ihre Organismen.
Laupp’sche Vertragsbuchhandlung, Tübingen, 56 pp., 22 pls.

If you have one available or know where I can find an original, please reply
privately to this email. Thank you!

All the best,

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[meteorite-list] AD: Rare European falls and more

2012-09-19 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List Members,

In an effort to raise funds for a new project, I have listed a suite of some
exceptional falls for sale from my personal collection:

http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/Sales.html

Please click refresh to make sure you are viewing current inventory.

Thanks for looking and have a great day!

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Re: [meteorite-list] Gladstone Question

2012-07-08 Thread Mike Bandli
Hi Dennis,

This is a partial Nininger Number. Nininger assigned Gladstone (New Mexico)
with the prefix 315.X. Since he assigned 31.X to Chupaderos, I think it is
safe to assume that the remainder of your numbers simply wore off. This is
typical of some older specimens to lose part of the number. In your case,
the 5.X probably just wore off. Nininger probably sold or swapped the
specimen directly to Ward's Natural Science and typically would only
retained the main mass and/or largest piece available, so we don't see this
smaller 110.6 gram piece listed his catalog. Only the 45.526 kilo main mass
(315.1) and a 1.632 kilo end (315.37).

Hope that helps.

For fun, a little excerpt regarding Gladstone, NM, form Nininger's catalog
(1950):

In 1936, we undertook to prove the hypothesis that meteorites have fallen
on all areas of the earth recently enough to be yet recognizable. We sent
Mr. and Mrs. Alex Richards to Gladstone, New Mexico, with instructions to
stay three weeks exhibiting specimens and providing information as to their
importance and how to distinguish meteorites from other rocks. We had no
information or hint of any kind that meteorites were present in that area.
The first two weeks brought nothing to light, but during the third week six
stones were recovered aggregating 183 pounds and representing three distinct
falls, namely, Gladstone, Farley, and Ute Creek, all within six miles of the
Gladstone post office.

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Hello, List!  Several weeks ago, I acquired a Gladstone meteorite for my
collection.  

It came with an old Ward's Natural Science label. Upon closer inspection, I
noticed

that there was a partially rubbed out white marking on one side.  I can make
out

a 31--- with the remainder unidentifiable.  It sure looks like a Nininger
marking.

I have a reprint of Nininger's 1950 catalog which lists only two
Gladstone's.  I 

have been unable to find if Harvey had and labeled this specimen, in his
collection

or if Ward's used the same nomenclature and marking style. If someone has a
newer

catalog of Harvey's collection, that might list this 110.6 gm Gladstone or
know if

someone knows of another source of researching this, let me know.

Thanks a bunch!

Dennis Miller

Northwest New Mexico

  
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[meteorite-list] AD: New Specimens, Witnessed Irons, Tauk, more...

2012-06-19 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List Members,

I have just finished listing 24 new specimens on eBay, which include some
personal collection pieces and some rare witnessed IRON falls. A couple of
these I have never seen offered before. Along with the rarities, there are
affordable classics and something for just about every collector:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/historic-meteorites/m.html

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[meteorite-list] Sutters Mill

2012-04-30 Thread Mike Bandli
Best of luck to all our friends in this historic strewnfield. I arrived
about an hour after Robert found the first piece on Tuesday and hunted for 5
full days. Despite getting skunked, the life experience and new friendships
forged are priceless. I already miss the fun dinners, afternoon pow wows,
and roadside chats. Once again, the hunt for space rocks took me to a place
I would have otherwise never seen. Now, go get 'em!

Best wishes,

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Patrick and I are still in Sutter's mill. Really a fun area and great people
here. Turns out that several meteorite dealer's live very close. I was
shocked to see Jay Buscio here yesterday. Haven't seen him in over 15 years.
Looks like many hunters have left but I am sure they will come back time and
time again. Getting hot already and the locals keep talking about when the
rattlesnakes will come out. Personally I am more worried about the poison
oak. Snakes run away from humans while poison oak seems to sneak up on you.
Still it's fun to see old friends and make new ones.

 

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[meteorite-list] AD: New (old) Specimens Listed on eBay

2012-03-29 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List Members,

I have loaded many nice auctions this week including a few historic falls
from my collection. There are also some fantastic NWA achondrites which
haven't been seen for a while. Most of these were the best pieces available
when I purchased them several years ago. Have a look:

www.ebay.com/sch/historic-meteorites/m.html

Have a great upcoming weekend!

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[meteorite-list] Any German friends live close to Reis Crater Museum?

2012-03-28 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List Members,

I am looking for any of our German friends that live nearby the Reis Crater
Museum in Nördlingen and that could possibly help me with something. I would
compensate you for your efforts. Please contact me off-list. Thanks!

Mike Bandli

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[meteorite-list] 1949 Meteorite Bookend by H.H. Nininger

2012-03-17 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List Members,

A unique Nininger acquisition that I thought would be fun to share:

http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/Nininger-Bookend.html

(not for sale)

Cheers,

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[meteorite-list] AD: New material, rare American finds, and more

2012-03-15 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List Members,

I have just finished a major sales page update with a variety of new
specimens added:

http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/Sales.html

Some of this material I have never seen offered before.

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Re: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Found in Antarctica?

2012-03-01 Thread Mike Bandli
Hello Ron,

Adelie Land
L5 Chondrite
1000 grams
Found on December 5, 1912 by F.H. Bickerton (Australian Antarctic
Expedition)

I have the original monograph if you need more detailed info.

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When was the first meteorite found in Antarctica and who found it?

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[meteorite-list] AD: Laguna Manatiales, Henbury, some publications

2012-02-22 Thread Mike Bandli
http://www.ebay.com/sch/historic-meteorites/m.html

Dear List Members,

I have a small run of auctions ending later today. Last week I started a 116
gram Laguna Manantiales and 86 gram Henbury at 99 cents and they are still
bargains at the moment. There are also a few meteorite publication lots and
some other nice items. Thanks for looking!

http://www.ebay.com/sch/historic-meteorites/m.html

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[meteorite-list] AD: New Rare Specimens from Germany, Alaska, Austria, Canada...

2012-01-24 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List Members,

I am pleased to announce a major website update with some incredible new
specimens offered for sale. I have listed some rare finds from Germany,
Alaska, Utah, Austria, Canada... All from legendary collections. At least a
couple I have never seen offered before. If you have a chance, please have a
look:

http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/Sales.html

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[meteorite-list] AD: Page update and Auctions

2011-11-17 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List Members,


I have a nice set of auctions ending in a few hours:

www.ebay.com/sch/historic-meteorites/m.html


I have also finished a minor update to my sales page:

www.historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/Sales.html

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Re: [meteorite-list] Photos needed

2011-11-07 Thread Mike Bandli
You can still access Christian's site and photos via the Wayback Machine:

http://web.archive.org/web/20090310145211/http://www.austromet.com/index2.ht
ml

You might also contact Russ Finney. He took some great photos at Vienna.

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 I am under search photos of the italian meteorites present in the Vienna
Museum in high resolution. Unfortunately the unique I remember to have seen
its the photos take by Christian Anger, but unfortunately Christian is no
longer with us. If you have some of this please write to me via email thanks

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[meteorite-list] AD: 30 lot micro set of rarities

2011-10-13 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List,

This past weekend I listed a fun micro collection on eBay. The set is
composed of 30 individual lots and can be seen at the top of this list:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/historic-meteorites/m.html

It was started at 99 cents with no reserve, so there is potential for a
great bargain. The empty container set cost me $20 alone and there are some
great rarities including some old falls and even a shergottite.

Best wishes,

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[meteorite-list] AD: Auction Reminder

2011-10-07 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List,

I have a nice group of auctions ending this weekend with many specimens
started at 99 cents.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/historic-meteorites/m.html?

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[meteorite-list] AD: New Auctions

2011-09-30 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List,

It's been a few months since I ran eBay auctions and I have a new set ending
this weekend. There are some potential bargains including a smorgasbord of
specimens started at 99 cents and a handful of Buy-It-Nows. 

http://www.ebay.com/sch/historic-meteorites/m.html

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[meteorite-list] AD: New specimens - Whitecourt, Vintage boxes, and more.

2011-09-10 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List,


I have just finished updating my sales page:

http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/Sales.html

We just received our export permits and meteorites from our spring
expedition to the Whitecourt area. I have listed many affordable pieces
(some as cheap as $10!).

I also added some real neat vintage tektite presentation boxes that are only
$10 ea. Take a peek if you have a chance.


Best wishes,

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Re: [meteorite-list] NEW PALLASITE in UNITED STATES - AD

2011-08-26 Thread Mike Bandli
A new American pallasite - Big news indeed! Congratulations to Karl on
making such a great find for Missouri and for doing it the old-school way.
What a great name for a meteorite too. Also, congrats to the entire crew
(Karl, Dave, and Robert) for setting such a great example and for properly
documenting this important find. Sean, nice job on the website too! So happy
to see positive news in our community.

Conception Junction, what's your function?

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Subject: [meteorite-list] NEW PALLASITE in UNITED STATES - AD

Hi List,
Robert Ward and I had preferred that Karl Aston make this announcement to
the meteorite list, but Karl is evidently having trouble making his post.
Rather than rewriting the same message, I've just copied Karl's intended
note below and am sending on behalf of the group...
All the best,
Dave
www.fallingrocks.com

Dear List,

I am pleased to introduce the Conception Junction pallasite to the meteorite
community.

Robert Ward, Dave Gheesling and I have been working on this project, in
conjunction with Dr. Randy Korotev and Dr. John Wasson, for almost two years
now, and it is a pleasure to present this beautiful pallasite to the
meteorite community here on the meteorite list.

Information about the Conception Junction pallasite, available specimens,
and its monograph (authored by Dave with contributions from Dr. Wasson), can
be found here: 

www.conceptionjunctionpallasite.com

Limited material will be available to the private collector community, as we
are holding specimens in reserve for institutional placement.

My personal website, www.olderthandirtmeteorites.com, is in the early stages
of development, but it will contain more information about this new Missouri
(my home state!) meteorite soon.

Warm regards,

Karl Aston

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[meteorite-list] Looking for a sample of the Rosebud meteorite

2011-08-23 Thread Mike Bandli
Hi List,

I'm looking for a sample of Rosebud meteorite. Will buy or trade. If you
have one available or know of any, please contact me privately.

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[meteorite-list] AD: New Specimens - A New CM2, CV3, and more

2011-08-17 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List,

I have just added some new specimens for sale:

http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/Sales.html

I am excited to bring you yet another new and unusual CM2. This one is quite
different than what most of us have seen both in color and inclusions. The
last CM2 sold out instantly, so please specify a couple choices when
ordering.

I have also added some beautiful slices of a new hot desert CV3 with a very
nice interior. Most are premium complete slices.

Please have a look if you have a chance!

Best wishes,

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[meteorite-list] Request for Luc Labenne's email

2011-08-02 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List,

If someone has a direct email to Luc Labenne, can you please send it to me
OFF LIST? I've been trying to contact him through his site, but it is not
working properly.

Thanks in advance!

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[meteorite-list] AD: Sales Page Update/New Specimens

2011-08-01 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List,

I have just finished adding new specimens to my sales page including Moss,
Laguna Manantiales, DaG 1037 (Shergottite), Homestead, Zag, and some others:

http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/Sales.html

Please note the price on the DaG 1037! I also have a few specimens of the
R5/W0 left!

Stay tuned - I have some neat stuff coming down the pipeline soon.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Rainbow Fusion crust

2011-07-21 Thread Mike Bandli
I've seen this rainbow effect in the fusion crust of a few specimens in my
life including Murchison, Ash Creek, and Buzzard Coulee. Jim Strope has a
great example of Murchison with this coloration in the crust here:

http://catchafallingstar.com/murchison723i.JPG

The complete page:

http://catchafallingstar.com/murchison723.htm

Very interesting. I would love to know what causes it.

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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Fujihara
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 10:06 AM
To: Marc Fries
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Special: Truly baffling  sensational
Howardite - NWA 6709 - absolutely stunning and very fresh.

Great observation Marc.  Iridescence is common on many pahoehoe lava flows
on the Big Island, and is quite remarkable to see.

Sent from Gary's iPhone

On Jul 21, 2011, at 6:53 AM, Marc Fries mfri...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Mild oxidation of silicate glass (fusion crust in this case) can produce a
rainbow effect, too.  I've seen this in basalts in the field. I think it is
from a sheen of iron oxides created as the iron and/or sulfide weathers out.
 
 Cheers,
 Marc Fries
 
 On 7/21/11 1:13 AM, Aubrey Whymark wrote:
 Hi
 
 The rainbow colour looks like oil to me. Maybe someone has used oil or
WD40 to clean it. I sometimes encounter 'rainbow' tektites and the guys want
extra because of it - in reality it is due to oil contamination, probably
from the mining operations.
 
 Regards, Aubrey
 www.tektites.co.uk
 
 
 
 --- On Thu, 21/7/11, Martin Altmannaltm...@meteorite-martin.de  wrote:
 
 From: Martin Altmannaltm...@meteorite-martin.de
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Special: Truly baffling  sensational
Howardite - NWA 6709 - absolutely stunning and very fresh.
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Thursday, 21 July, 2011, 0:33
 Hi Mike,
 
 no worries, neither we understood it like that.
 
 Of course, if one looks to the photos, the first idea,
 which comes to one's
 mind is: oil.
 No idea, what causes this effect, maybe the composition.
 Also that strange
 tint the cut faces reveal.
 
 And especially worrying is the variety of the odd
 inclusions. I mean
 normally we all get already excited, whenever we find a
 carbonaceous
 fragment in a howardite,
 but what that stone has all for strange clasts - that is
 really not normal
 anymore.
 
 Since 1999 Stefan is in Morocco and since then we certainly
 had quite a
 bunch of materials in our hands,
 but such a weird polymict one - extremely unusual.
 
 And it seems that many collectors feel the same, if after
 such a short time
 now only three slices are left.
 
 Now all of the smaller ones are gone, sorry for that. But
 we have still a
 slice left, which we could subdivide into small partslices,
 if desired - but
 for that one has really to raise his finger.
 
 For the moment!
 Martin
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]
 Im Auftrag von Galactic
 Stone  Ironworks
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2011 00:48
 An: Chladnis Heirs
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Special: Truly baffling
   sensational
 Howardite - NWA 6709 - absolutely stunning and very fresh.
 
 Hi Martin,
 
 I didn't mean to impeach the meteorite, I was just
 curious.
 
 This is indeed a mystery.  Have any scientists offered
 or agreed to
 look at it?  Perhaps hit the rainbow area with the
 microprobe or SEM?
 
 Aesthetically speaking, it's gorgeous and looks like Mother
 of Pearl.  :)
 
 Best regards,
 
 MikeG
 
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 On 7/20/11, Chladnis Heirsn...@chladnis-heirs.com
 wrote:
 No, it's natural!
 
 Martin
 
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Galactic Stone  Ironworks [mailto:meteoritem...@gmail.com]
 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Juli 2011 23:24
 An: Chladnis Heirs
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Special: Truly
 baffling  sensational
 Howardite - NWA 6709 - absolutely stunning and very
 fresh.
 Wow!  That is one of the most beautiful
 howardites I have ever seen.
 Nice find.  :)
 
 The rainbox coloration is very odd.  Was the
 stone cleaned at any

Re: [meteorite-list] Rainbow Fusion crust

2011-07-21 Thread Mike Bandli
Another nice example on Dave Gheesling's site:

http://www.fallingrocks.com/Collections/Murchison.htm


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Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 10:39 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rainbow Fusion crust

Just some hours ago,
list-member Stephan Kambach sent me a picture of a Murchison individual,
showing such a rainbow effect.

Best!
Martin

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Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Mike
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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2011 19:21
An: 'Gary Fujihara'; 'Marc Fries'
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Rainbow Fusion crust

I've seen this rainbow effect in the fusion crust of a few specimens in my
life including Murchison, Ash Creek, and Buzzard Coulee. Jim Strope has a
great example of Murchison with this coloration in the crust here:

http://catchafallingstar.com/murchison723i.JPG

The complete page:

http://catchafallingstar.com/murchison723.htm

Very interesting. I would love to know what causes it.

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Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 10:06 AM
To: Marc Fries
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Special: Truly baffling  sensational
Howardite - NWA 6709 - absolutely stunning and very fresh.

Great observation Marc.  Iridescence is common on many pahoehoe lava flows
on the Big Island, and is quite remarkable to see.

Sent from Gary's iPhone

On Jul 21, 2011, at 6:53 AM, Marc Fries mfri...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Mild oxidation of silicate glass (fusion crust in this case) can produce a
rainbow effect, too.  I've seen this in basalts in the field. I think it is
from a sheen of iron oxides created as the iron and/or sulfide weathers out.
 
 Cheers,
 Marc Fries
 
 On 7/21/11 1:13 AM, Aubrey Whymark wrote:
 Hi
 
 The rainbow colour looks like oil to me. Maybe someone has used oil or
WD40 to clean it. I sometimes encounter 'rainbow' tektites and the guys want
extra because of it - in reality it is due to oil contamination, probably
from the mining operations.
 
 Regards, Aubrey
 www.tektites.co.uk
 
 
 
 --- On Thu, 21/7/11, Martin Altmannaltm...@meteorite-martin.de  wrote:
 
 From: Martin Altmannaltm...@meteorite-martin.de
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Special: Truly baffling  sensational
Howardite - NWA 6709 - absolutely stunning and very fresh.
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Thursday, 21 July, 2011, 0:33
 Hi Mike,
 
 no worries, neither we understood it like that.
 
 Of course, if one looks to the photos, the first idea,
 which comes to one's
 mind is: oil.
 No idea, what causes this effect, maybe the composition.
 Also that strange
 tint the cut faces reveal.
 
 And especially worrying is the variety of the odd
 inclusions. I mean
 normally we all get already excited, whenever we find a
 carbonaceous
 fragment in a howardite,
 but what that stone has all for strange clasts - that is
 really not normal
 anymore.
 
 Since 1999 Stefan is in Morocco and since then we certainly
 had quite a
 bunch of materials in our hands,
 but such a weird polymict one - extremely unusual.
 
 And it seems that many collectors feel the same, if after
 such a short time
 now only three slices are left.
 
 Now all of the smaller ones are gone, sorry for that. But
 we have still a
 slice left, which we could subdivide into small partslices,
 if desired - but
 for that one has really to raise his finger.
 
 For the moment!
 Martin
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]
 Im Auftrag von Galactic
 Stone  Ironworks
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2011 00:48
 An: Chladnis Heirs
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Special: Truly baffling
   sensational
 Howardite - NWA 6709 - absolutely stunning and very fresh.
 
 Hi Martin,
 
 I didn't mean to impeach the meteorite, I was just
 curious.
 
 This is indeed a mystery.  Have any scientists offered
 or agreed to
 look at it?  Perhaps hit the rainbow area with the
 microprobe or SEM?
 
 Aesthetically speaking, it's gorgeous and looks like Mother
 of Pearl.  :)
 
 Best regards

[meteorite-list] AD: Website Update - Many New Specimens

2011-07-12 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List,

I am pleased to announce a website update with a Smörgåsbord of new material
added. Of special note are a new CM2 and an R5 W0, which are currently under
study.

For the first time (that I know of), I am offering small baby individuals
of this fresh R5. They all have beautiful fusion crust and there is one that
even shows some orientation and bubbly crust. If anything, have a look for
some good eye candy.

The CM2 is also a beauty. Less than 6 grams is available after the wire saw.
Most are complete slices and all specimens are under $100 per slice. Where
else are you going to find such a nice complete slice of a desert CM2 for
less than $100?

http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/Sales.html

Be sure to hit refresh to make sure you are viewing current inventory.

Thanks and have a great week!



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Re: [meteorite-list] RFSPOD, July 02, 2011, Bjurböle

2011-07-02 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear Greg,

Beautiful sample of Bjurbole! Gorgeous, 3 dimensional popping chondrules,
great history, rare locality, witnessed fall... It is also one of only a few
19th Cent. historics that can be had for a fraction of the price of others
falls.

FYI, there are some neat photo excerpts from the 1903 Bjurbole monograph
that I have uploaded (at the bottom) here:

http://www.historicmeteorites.com/historicmeteorites/B-Bjurbole.html


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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Greg Hupé
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 5:08 AM
To: Bernd V. Pauli; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]RFSPOD, July 02, 2011, Bjurböle

Hi Bernd,

Thank you for the additional information of Bjurböle. What are the 
statistics of meteorites having 'native copper'?

This Bjurböle specimen has a large 7mm chondrule protruding from the edge of

the 37.3-gram cut fragment measuring 45mm x 42mm x 13mm. I acquired it from 
a private collection while in Europe.

Best Regards,
Greg


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AncientDiscoveries (eBay)(formerly 'NaturesVault')
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1) NaturesVault - http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault
2) AncientDiscoveries (formerly 'NaturesVault') - 
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-Original Message- 
From: Bernd V. Pauli
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:00 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] RFSPOD, July 02, 2011, Bjurböle

Hello All,

Some useful backround info on the RFSPOD for July 02, 2011:

Bjurböle (L/LL4; S1; friable; native copper):

The Bjurböle L/LL4 meteorite slammed through 40 cm of solid ice and broke 
into fragments, the largest of which weighed 80kg - the total weight was 
about 330-400 kg. The diameter of the hole in the ice measured 425 x 350 cm.

The depth of the water at the impact site was 90 cm and the sea-floor 
consisted of  soft organic mud. There were numerous splashes of mud round 
the impact hole up to a distance of 20 to 25 meters. The meteorite was 
finally recovered from a depth of 6 meters below the surface of the water in

the clay layer underlying the mud layer.

Bernd (who owns a 2.8-gr, tiny fragment)


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Re: [meteorite-list] Micromounts and weights - Standards Vary

2011-07-01 Thread Mike Bandli
Hi Michael,

That is +/- 0.015 of a *milligram*, not a gram, and 0.03 of a *milligram*,
not a gram.

Cheers,

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Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 2:03 PM
To: Met. Mike Bandli; 'Michael Farmer'
Cc: Meteorite List
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Micromounts and weights - Standards Vary

Mike,
I checked this out and was confused. The first statement:
 METTLER TOLEDO AT261 0.01mg Counting Scale in HardCase
Implies accuracy down to a tenth of one mg! That is .0001g
HOWEVER, the first part of the description reads:
Weighing Capacity:205g Repeatability:(0-50g)+/-0.015mg
Linearity:(10g)+/-0.03mg Stabilization:(typical)8-12sec
What the h*** does that mean? It sounds like a maximum
Capacity of 205g, but repeatability:(0-50g)+/- 0.015 seams
Like it is saying it can be off by 15mg!
THEN: Linearity:(10)+/- 0.03mg Stabilization... sounds
Like they are saying it could be off by 30mg.
How do others read this?
Michael

On 6/30/11 5:11 PM, Met. Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net wrote:

 Yes, and for those serious about weights, I would highly recommend a
 refurbished Mettler unit similar to this one:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/3dz8udc
 
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Farmer [mailto:m...@meteoriteguy.com]
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 4:55 PM
 To: Mike Bandli
 Cc: Michael Gilmer; Meteorite List
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Micromounts and weights - Standards Vary
 
 I use a multi-thousand dollar scale, you are right about the cheap scales,
 have bought several for the field, they are worthless.
 Wanna sell the small stuff, make the investment to do it right.
 
 Michael Farmer
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Jun 30, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A little perspective on milligrams:
 
 There are a lot of meteorite mg weights out there that not accurate. We
 can
 thank these new, cheap Chinese digital scales that promise accuracies of
 +/-
 1mg or less, which are a complete joke. I bought one in Tucson to test it
 out against my high-end calibrated machine and it was off by about 10 mg
 on
 average for pieces 50 to 100 mg and 5 mg on average for pieces 10 to 50
 mg.
 Anything fewer than 10 mg - forget about it. The calibration weights it
 came
 with were even more laughable...
 
 In reality, in order to be able to accurately measure mg, you need a
 machine
 that has been recently leveled and calibrated in-situ. I have a recently
 leveled/calibrated mechanical scale whose tare changes by the hour due to
 changes in the weather. It even picks up the subtle vibration of the
 dishwasher downstairs.
 
 Bottom line - a $100 mg scale isn't going to get you the accuracy needed
 to
 accurately measure true mg. Since most people can't afford the hundreds
to
 thousands it costs for an accurate mg scale, I don't expect most mg
 weights
 advertised to be truly accurate. They're close...
 
 Just my 2 mg worth (+/- 1mg)...
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael
 Gilmer
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 4:17 PM
 To: Meteorite List
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Micromounts and weights - Standards Vary
 
 Hi Listees and Micronauts,
 
 There has been some discussion recently about people buying
 micromounts from a vendor on eBay and not getting the weights they
 were promised.  I thought I would throw out some thoughts on micros,
 since those are my bread and butter.
 
 First, the definition of micromount is relative.  There is no
 set-in-stone size bracket for what defines a micromount.  It seems to
 me that the general consensus is that micromounts are in the 1g

Re: [meteorite-list] Micromounts and weights - Standards Vary

2011-06-30 Thread Mike Bandli
A little perspective on milligrams:

There are a lot of meteorite mg weights out there that not accurate. We can
thank these new, cheap Chinese digital scales that promise accuracies of +/-
1mg or less, which are a complete joke. I bought one in Tucson to test it
out against my high-end calibrated machine and it was off by about 10 mg on
average for pieces 50 to 100 mg and 5 mg on average for pieces 10 to 50 mg.
Anything fewer than 10 mg - forget about it. The calibration weights it came
with were even more laughable...

In reality, in order to be able to accurately measure mg, you need a machine
that has been recently leveled and calibrated in-situ. I have a recently
leveled/calibrated mechanical scale whose tare changes by the hour due to
changes in the weather. It even picks up the subtle vibration of the
dishwasher downstairs.

Bottom line - a $100 mg scale isn't going to get you the accuracy needed to
accurately measure true mg. Since most people can't afford the hundreds to
thousands it costs for an accurate mg scale, I don't expect most mg weights
advertised to be truly accurate. They're close...

Just my 2 mg worth (+/- 1mg)...

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Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 4:17 PM
To: Meteorite List
Subject: [meteorite-list] Micromounts and weights - Standards Vary

Hi Listees and Micronauts,

There has been some discussion recently about people buying
micromounts from a vendor on eBay and not getting the weights they
were promised.  I thought I would throw out some thoughts on micros,
since those are my bread and butter.

First, the definition of micromount is relative.  There is no
set-in-stone size bracket for what defines a micromount.  It seems to
me that the general consensus is that micromounts are in the 1g range
for the more common types and sub-gram in weight for the rare types.
Very rare falls or planetaries are commonly sold by the milligram.
Rockhounds tend to equate meteorite micromounts with mineral
thumbnails.  But generally speaking, most micromounts on the market
today are in the sub-gram (1g) range.

Ideally, a micromount should be visually appealing (such a well
polished, thin part slice with good surface area to weight ratio) and
big enough to identify the lithology of the type/fall, while at the
same time being cheap enough to afford on a limited budget.

The more preparation that goes into making a given micromount, the
higher the price, generally speaking.  At some point, it's not
financially viable to put a lot of cutting and polishing work into
piece of common find that is only worth a buck or two a gram.
Smaller micros are difficult to work with during preparation, for
obvious reasons, so many of the micromounts seen on the market are
unpolished, rough, or broken.

What motivates a person to collect micromounts varies from person to
person, but the most commonly cited reason for buying micros is to
temporarily fill a void in a type collection.  It could be a
petrologic type, a find from a given geographic area, a fall from a
specific date, etc.  Often a micromount is a temporary measure until a
nicer specimen can be acquired, or until the needed finances to buy a
larger piece can be saved up.  For the very rare types and
planetaries, a micromount might be the best hope for a collector on a
restricted budget.

There are a couple of schools of thought when it comes to dealing and
selling micromounts - some dealers sell specimens by weight (by
milligram, even for specks) or some dealers offer specimens by the
piece (by eye/photo).  For the most part, I am of the latter school
that sells micros by the piece.  That means I don't weigh each and
every micromount, unless it is a very rare and valuable meteorite such
as a planetary or historical fall.  Each dealer has their own methods
for handling micromounts and we those aren't really relevant to the
discussion at hand.

When weighing micromounts, one must use an accurate scale that is
sensitive to 1 milligram - the good ones are used by diamond and gem
dealers.  There are many brands of these scales which range in quality
and accuracy.  When dealing with small specks that weigh a milligram
or two, the readings can vary from unit to unit when weighing the same
specimen.  If a buyer pays for and is promised a micro that weighs
100mg, it better weigh 100mg and not 50mg or 80mg.  Sometimes a buyer
gets an added bonus because their personal scale is more accurate than
the seller's scale and a promised 100mg micro might weigh 120mg or
150mg. If the seller is not sticking to a strict pricing scheme ($/g
or $/mg), then ultimately what matters is if the buyer is happy

[meteorite-list] Need recommendations for microscope

2011-06-17 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List,

I am looking for recommendations for a good binocular stereo microscope –
the kind that I can use to observe the surface of material and slices. I
would like to get a mid to high-end one with a powerful light source and the
ability to adapt a digital camera. I see tons of them on eBay and it is a
bit confusing for one that knows little about them. Your expertise is
greatly appreciated!

Thanks for your help!

Mike Bandli

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[meteorite-list] AD: Meteorite Auctions

2011-05-27 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List,

It has been a month or so since I ran some eBay auctions and I wanted to let
you know that I have a new group of them ending on Sunday. I didn't take
into account that it is a holiday weekend here in the US, so some might not
be able to bid. That means a higher potential for bargains on the .99
centers. Get your bids and snipes in now before you leave for the weekend.

http://shop.ebay.com/historic-meteorites/m.html

There is something for everyone - Allende, Sikhote, Martian, Buzzard, Zag,
Taza, Almahata Sitta...

Take care,

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Re: [meteorite-list] Hraschina historical notes

2011-05-24 Thread Mike Bandli
Hi Mark,

Nice job! I love what you are doing with the site.

One correction though - The first Widmanstatten patterns were first
observed a few years earlier by G. Thomson on the Krasnojarsk iron (Pallas
Iron). See here:

http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/bk-thomson.html

Cheers,

Mike Bandli

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Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:53 AM
To: Meteorite List
Subject: [meteorite-list] Hraschina historical notes

Hi folks,

A couple of accounts of the Hraschina fall in 1751.  The first observed fall
of an iron, and the first meteorite where the Widmannstatten pattern was
observed:

http://historicfalls.com/18th-century/hraschina/

Mark Crawford
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[meteorite-list] Jeff Kuyken Finds his First Meteorite

2011-05-13 Thread Mike Bandli
A BIG congrats to friend and fellow Australian meteorite guru Jeff Kuyken for 
finding his very first meteorite. We were honored to share in the moment and it 
set the tone for what would become an amazing week here at Whitecourt. He 
didn't know it it until this week, but Jeff is a natural born meteorite hunter.

I had a first as well - my first taste of Vegemite on toast. I have to say, it 
is pretty nasty

Cheers,

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To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 5:05:10 AM 
Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 13, 2011 

http://www.rocksfromspace.org/May_13_2011.html 
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteoritehistory.info now back online

2011-04-11 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear Eric,

Thanks so much for making this invaluable resource available to the public!
We appreciate it!
 
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Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 10:25 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] meteoritehistory.info now back online

My web site http://www.meteoritehistory.info is now back online, its been 
unavailable for about 3 months, and is now with a new web hosting company.

Check out the what's new page for 'recent' to the web site that is,  at 
http://www.meteoritehistory.info/NEW.HTM

Its some time since I mentioned the web site on meteoritecentral so I am 
repeating the background information here...

The web site provides over 10,000 pages of information, 1281 articles, 
representing about 400 meteorite falls/finds and numerious reports of meteor

showers and individual fireballs. The content was originally published on 3 
CDs between 1998 and 2003, but is now freely available online and has been 
extended as additional items and time become available.

The content is 69% in English, German makes up 19%, with French 11.5% and 
Spanish 0.5%.

The original texts have been scanned, and are viewable on screen as 
'photocopies'.  At the top and bottom of each page are options to go forward

to the next page, back to the previous page,  or start at the first page. In

addition the larger articles and books allow you to start at a particular
page number, or use an index.

Becuase of copyright restrictions almost all of the articles, reports and 
books are pre 1923 (USA copyright) or 70 years after death of author (UK)

Enjoy.

Eric Hutton. 

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[meteorite-list] Looking for Geoff Cintron

2011-04-05 Thread Mike Bandli
If someone could please forward me Geoff Cintron's email Offlist, I would be
very grateful.

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[meteorite-list] AD: Sales page update/Killer auctions

2011-04-01 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List,

I have some auctions ending in 48 hours and there are some STEAL deals as I
look at them now. All but one was started at 99 cents. There is a gorgeous
296 gram Sikhote Alin, my best small Carancas (with crust!), and a bunch of
others. Take a peek if you have a chance. Here's the link:

http://shop.ebay.com/historic-meteorites/m.html


Also, I have finished adding new specimens to my web sales page. Three more
observed falls: Bensour, Bruderheim, and Wuan. You can see them here: 

http://www.historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/Sales.html

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[meteorite-list] Chladni Microphotograph on eBay

2011-04-01 Thread Mike Bandli
Someone on the list might want this (not mine):

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=310307017349

Interesting. Never knew there were such things.



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[meteorite-list] Tucson Ring Questions

2011-03-29 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List,

I vaguely remember seeing a schematic somewhere many years ago of how a
sample of the Tucson Ring was sectioned into pieces. Does anyone remember
this or know where I can find it? Also, I am interested in knowing where,
exactly, samples were actually removed from the ring. I have an old woodcut
from 1855 that shows the ring in its original state and I notice there is a
nodular mass inside the ring that is not present on the current mass. Is
this removed portion the source of all the small specimens in collections
today?

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[meteorite-list] Looking for someone with Mineralogical Mag. Vol. 28 No. 204

2011-03-28 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List,

I am looking for someone that owns or has access to the following journal
for some meteorite research:

The Mineralogical Magazine, Volume 28, No. 204 (1949)

If someone would be willing to either scan or photocopy a specific article
for me, I would be very grateful and will reward you with a meteorite.
Please contact me off-list if interested.

Alternately, if you have this complete issue available for sale, I would be
interested in buying/trading for it.

Thanks!


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[meteorite-list] Book Wanted: Meteorites by Foote 1912

2011-03-27 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List,

I am seeking an original copy of Meteorites by Foote (1912).

Will buy or trade. Please contact me privately if you have one available.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Congrats to Regine Peterson on her first Meteoritefind!

2011-03-23 Thread Mike Bandli
Congrats Regine! Now you're hooked!

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Meteoritefind!

Hi all,
I just wanted to say congratulations to list member Regine Peterson on
finding her very first meteorite in Holbrook yesterday. Regine is in
Arizona (from Germany) doing research for a meteorite related
(picture) book she is working on. She has been all over the world
researching meteorite falls and finds as well as craters and so as
part of her education Twink Monrad and I took her on a meteorite hunt.
The hunt was short (about 6 hours) but produced 12 meteorites - two
were found by Regine! Her very first was a beautiful 3 gram crusted
individual.
Here are a few photos
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - March 21, 2011

2011-03-20 Thread Mike Bandli
Now that's a jaw dropper! Stunning!

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[meteorite-list] AD: Site update and auctions

2011-03-19 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List,

I have some nice 99 cent auctions ending tomorrow. Bruderheim, Taza,
Buzzard, Martian, Valle de Allende, El Perdido, Chergach, Powellsville,
Glatton, and a GORGEOUS small unclassified stone:

http://shop.ebay.com/historic-meteorites/m.html


Also, I have finished updated the sales page on my site with many specimens:

http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/Sales.html


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[meteorite-list] Seeking help with a German Translation

2011-03-05 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List,

I am looking for someone who has the time to translate about *one page* of
mid-19th century German text to English. Babelfish and google-translate give
me a sketchy/choppy translation and I need a clean one that flows. I will
offer a free meteorite in return for the favor and, of course, credit for
performing the translation. Any help would be greatly appreciated. The
content is for the complete circumstances of a rare German fall that, to my
knowledge, has never been read or published in English.

Please contact me privately if you can be of assistance. 

Cheers,

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[meteorite-list] Free Meteorite Card Template

2011-03-04 Thread Mike Bandli
In response to requests for specimen card templates, I have uploaded a
template I designed for free use:

http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/labels.html

Feel free to edit/tailor it for your personal requirements.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass

2011-03-04 Thread Mike Bandli
Hello Rob,

Great question. You should always provide your own card (even if the weight
changes). The idea is that if everyone did this, and passed original
dealer/collector cards along, you could establish a *chain-of-custody*.
Chain-of-custody is an important component of provenance. As pieces continue
to be sectioned down or change hands, provenance is more important than
ever. With the influx of new collectors, we all need to set higher standards
so that this precious information gets passed down.

Cheers,

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To: 'Mike Bandli'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list]Meteorite Cards - changing mass

Hi Mike and List,

Concerning Meteorite-Cards...

I like to have my stone-type meteorite slices sanded at one side and
polished at the other.
After buying slices, they typically arrive as-cut. So I have to sand and
polish them myself.

As you can guess, afterwards the mass doesn’t correspond to the mass on the
cards anymore.
Assume I would choose to sell a slice. Should I stripe the original mass,
and put a new figure (plus my name?) on
the original card (as I would choose to do), or should I make my own new
card, or choose even a different option?

What would be the best choice? Wonder if we could work out a preferred
approach here.

All the best,
Rob Lenssen
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In response to requests for specimen card templates, I have uploaded a
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http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/labels.html

Feel free to edit/tailor it for your personal requirements.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass

2011-03-04 Thread Mike Bandli
Hi Rob,

Make your own card that reflects the updated weight and include the original
dealer/collector card that reflects the old weight.

Cheers,

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Hi Guy's,

Thanks for the answers, but - except Stuart's -  they are not answering the
question how to deal with changing mass.
I think everybody will agree that the original card must stay with the
piece.

I make my own cards only for stones I bought in Morocco and had classified
myself.

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In response to Stuart

Nininger, DuPont, LaPaz

Not IMCA members but I'm glad they made those cards


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 I agree. I keep all the cards you guys send me when I purchase. I have 
 been thinking about doing my own card but it really is meaning less 
 not being an IMCA member or the original finder.

 Maybe make an entry on the back of the original card as to whom you 
 received it from and forward it when you sell it.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass

2011-03-04 Thread Mike Bandli
Stuart wrote: So if you don't forward the original how do you state the
chain of custody?

You can note the chain of custody (if you know it) on the back of your
specimen card.


Stuart wrote: Also, when you purchase a stone do you automatically become
part of the provenance??

Yes. Provenance, by its very definition, is not only the *source/origin*,
but also the *chain of custody* or *history of ownership*. When you buy a
stone, you become a part of the provenance.


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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass

So if you don't forward the original how do you state the chain of custody?


Also, when you purchase a stone do you automatically become part of the 
provenance?? I know that sounds like an elemental question but I am still 
learning here.


Stuart McDaniel
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Hi all,

I always include my own specimen card with any specimen that i sell on
and have done since i started collecting. This is not because i place
any importance on myself or the 'added value' that this might place on
a specimen but because i do feel it is important to show the chain of
custody of each and every specimen, whether a small micromount or a
museum piece. To me this chain of ownership is important whether you
are a dealer, a big name famous historic collector or a brand new
collector, it makes no difference but just adds to the story of each
specimen.

If i have refinished a specimen and lost some weight in the process i
write the new weight on my card and in the comments section at the
bottom i add that due to refinishing the weight has changed whilst in
my temporary custody.  I have numerous specimens where the chain of
ownership is shown by 6 or more specimen cards of various dealers or
collectors. In some of these there have been numerous weight changes
down the line yet from the cards i can see who did what and when, this
is important info and needs to be recorded.

On this note although i understand why some dealers do not include
previous owners cards to not make obvious where they obtained the
specimen i have to say it is a pet hate of mine when this happens. I
like to have as much information as possible on the provenance of
every piece and the chain of ownership as Mike says is a big part of
this.

Good discussion!

Cheers

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[meteorite-list] AD: Selling many collection pieces/auctions

2011-02-26 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List,

As I continue to restructure my collection in favor of old falls, I am
making many nice collection pieces available. There are pieces from
Nininger, Dupont, rare falls and finds, and some scarce irons. Some have
painted numbers and old labels. If you would like a list of material
available please reply privately, off-list. I'm working on it now and should
have it ready soon.


Part 2: The biweekly plug for eBay auctions:

http://shop.ebay.com/historic-meteorites/m.html

A mix of everything - Historic, martian, falls, rare finds, many pieces
sitting at 99 cents. There's also a nice pair of Monnig Kaffir's with
sequential numbers! The starting bid on those was my cost from the Cureton
Collection many years ago.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Weston meteorite fall 1807 .... SillimanandWoodhouse, RIVALRY or BAD SCIENCE????

2011-02-22 Thread Mike Bandli
Shawn Alan wrote:  I see that the first publication of any account of the
Weston meteorite fall was done on December 29, 1807 by Silliman and Kingsley
sent a preliminary description of the fall phenomena and the stones to The
Connecticut Herald, in New Haven, making the report one of the first
published report on the Weston meteorite fall.( Marvin B47 2007, The origins
of modern meteorite research)...


Actually, this is incorrect. Dr. Isaac Bronson and Dr. Horace Holley
conducted the first investigation of Weston. Bronson then wrote the first
report of the event on December 19, 1807 - two days before Silliman/Kingsley
arrived on-site. This would become the first published report on the Weston
event as it was published in the December 28th edition of the New-York
Commercial Advertiser - a day before Silliman and Kingsley's report in the
Connecticut Herald. So, Bronson holds the title for the first report on the
Weston event. Bronson's report was subsequently reprinted in the out-of-town
paper, the New-York Spectator, on January 2, 1808. Interestingly, Bronson
and Holley's work on Weston has managed to slip through many bibliographies.


References:

Bronson, I. (1807) Letter to the editor. New-York Commercial
Advertiser, December 28, 1807.

Robson, M. and Pagliaro, F. (2009), Weston: Revised position for a
historically significant meteorite fall. Meteoritics  Planetary Science,
44: 1343–1354.


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Subject: [meteorite-list] Weston meteorite fall 1807 
SillimanandWoodhouse, RIVALRY or BAD SCIENCE

Hi Mark and Listers,

   Mark I did take a look at your review and your stance on Silliman's work
on the Weston meteorite to say the least is summed up by these statements 
Silliman’s face must be red with embarrassmentSilliman’s accomplishments
in capturing the imagination of the public versus the quality of his
scientific work on the fragments, which was professional but certainly not
exceptional 

   You go further by saying that Woodhouse on the other hand didn’t receive
enough credit with the Weston meteorite fall. But I find it odd that these
two gentlemen had a rivalry. At one point Woodhouse's work on analysis of
meteorite stones could be summed up to be loose and not to be depended on
quoted from the Transactions of the American Philosophical Society, which in
March 1808 Silliman and Kingsley read a memoir to the American Philosophical
Society about the Weston meteorite fall.

Source
http://books.google.com/books?id=BUsLIAAJlpg=PA285dq=Philadelphia%20Me
dical%20Museum%2C%205%2C%202%20(1808)%20woodhousepg=PA285#v=onepageq=Phila
delphia%20Medical%20Museum,%205,%202%20(1808)%20woodhousef=false

   You have suggested that Woodhouse's role could be deemed just as
important as Sillimans and that Prince did not express that in her work. But
my question is why do you feel that Woodhouses role was just as important if
not even more? I see that the first publication of any account of the Weston
meteorite fall was done on December 29, 1807 by Silliman and Kingsley sent a
preliminary description of the fall phenomena and the stones to The
Connecticut Herald, in New Haven, making the report one of the first
published report on the Weston meteorite fall.( Marvin B47 2007, The origins
of modern meteorite research) A few days later a letter written by Bronson a
merchant describe his observation and was published January 2, 1808 in The
New York Spector.

   As for publications go Silliman was one of the first to do so and not to
mention his first-hand accounts in the field as opposed to Woodhouse lack of
engagement in the field, and second hand sources. You say that Woodhouse
published his analysis of the Weston meteorite; may I ask what the date was
when he published his findings and where?

   In January 1808 Silliman's manuscript accounts the analysis of the Weston
fall and at that time Woodhouse's analysis had been unpublished and to some
felt his work

[meteorite-list] AD: New auctions - great material!

2011-02-18 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List,

I have a great run of auctions ending in 48 hours:

http://shop.ebay.com/historic-meteorites/m.html

A great mix of everything: historics, NWA, planetary, Tagish, Taza, and even
a couple crabs :)

Many items still at 99 cents and the potential for many bargains.

Thanks for looking and have a fantastic weekend!


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Re: [meteorite-list] Unknown irons at ASU

2011-02-10 Thread Mike Bandli
Hello Laurence,

#4 looks identical to the IIIAB iron Smith's Mountain (1863).

Compare to this specimen:

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/get_original_photo.php?recno=5642156

Mike Farmer also has a specimen, but his site is down.

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Unknown irons at ASU

I found four unlabeled iron meteorite slices in the collection at Arizona
State University.  They can be seen at 

www.flickr.com/photos/meteorite_scientist/sets/72157625897257655/

If anyone recognizes any of the slices then please let me know at
lgar...@asu.edu

Thanks

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[meteorite-list] AD: Auctions/Web Sales Update

2011-01-22 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List,

One last push of eBay auctions to raise a little cash for the big show:

http://shop.ebay.com/historic-meteorites/m.html

This will be the last round of auctions for a while as the next month will
be filled with meteorite mania!

Also, some additions to my sales page including a stunning, older Sikhote
Alin:

http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/Sales.html

Hope to see many of you in a week! Take care and enjoy the weekend!


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[meteorite-list] Is there a complete English translation of Biot's report?

2011-01-19 Thread Mike Bandli
Good Morning,

Can anyone tell me if there is a complete English translation of Biot's
monograph on l'Aigle? I see bits and pieces translated in journals, but was
hoping there is a complete cover-to-cover translation floating around out
there.

Thanks!


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[meteorite-list] Speaking of Weston...

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Bandli
There is a new book out:

http://www.prometheusbooks.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=37_167
products_id=2027

I'll be reading it this week and hope to give a review soon. Looks like it
will be good!

(Thanks to R. Wesel for the gift!)

Cheers,

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Re: [meteorite-list] Speaking of Weston...

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Bandli
Hello Mark,

I'm now half way through the book and can report that Prince does explain
and relate everyone in your #2. I think the reader will find Silliman's and
Woodhouse's relationship to the Weston fall quite interesting.

As for #1, I think perhaps Turning Point would have been a better choice
and less controversial than Birth. She has made a strong case so far,
though, as it pertains to the general state of science in America at the
time.

I haven't found anything yet that confirms the wild review claim in your #3,
but I still have half a book to go. I did find myself having to re-read
several paragraphs after thinking That's not true!, only to realize that
it was prefixed with ...the first *American* to... You'll see that Prince
is very careful with her wording in some places and it seems to me that, at
times, this can pump up Silliman's accomplishments. She does write that
Silliman drew on the work of Chladni and discusses other falls and figures
later in the book, but really tries to stay within the parameters of
American figures, events, and milestones.

There are a couple of glaring errors related to meteorite history that do
stick out. I'll see if others pick up on them as well.

So far it is a solid book. The accounts of the Weston fall are particularly
fun and Prince does a good job painting an image of early life and hardship
in Weston and the fall as described by the residents.

I'll finish the rest tomorrow.

Time for bed...

Cheers,

Mike
 
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-Original Message-
From: Mark Grossman [mailto:mar...@westnet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 6:00 PM
To: Mike Bandli; 'Jason Utas'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Speaking of Weston...

I just took a quick look as some of the reviews of this book that were 
written by CT newspapers, and I will have to read the book to determine the 
accuracy of some of the statements.

1.  As far as the birth of American science - science-oriented statesman 
Benjamin Franklin preceded Benjamin Silliman in giving American science a 
name abroad.  He was held in the highest respect as a scientist just as much

as a statesman in Europe for his electrical investigations, and attended the

salon of the Lavoisiers in Paris regularly.

2. What happened to mention of James Woodhouse of Philadelphia (1770-1809), 
who had a laboratory in Philadelphia that Joseph Priestly, the discover of 
oxygen, used to visit?  Woodhouse also analyzed the Weston stone, but 
off-hand, I don't know who has priority.  I hope the book mentions 
Woodhouse.

3.  Weston - the first scientific investigation that proved that meteorites 
came from outer space?  What happened to mention of Edward Howard, L'Aigle, 
Chladni, etc.?

Again, I haven't read the book yet, so perhaps the reporting is inaccurate. 
But if there is any truth to reviews that I have seen, this book is headed 
for trouble.

I would be interested in any comments from those who have already had a 
chance to read or peruse the book.

Thanks.

Mark


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Subject: [meteorite-list] Speaking of Weston...


 There is a new book out:


http://www.prometheusbooks.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=37_167
 products_id=2027

 I'll be reading it this week and hope to give a review soon. Looks like it
 will be good!

 (Thanks to R. Wesel for the gift!)

 Cheers,

 Mike

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[meteorite-list] AD: Auctions ending - many rarities

2011-01-15 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List,

I have many new auctions ending in 24 hours including some rare birds:
Glatton, Chitenay, Wold Cottage, and more. Everything started at 99 cents:

http://shop.ebay.com/historic-meteorites/m.html

Many thanks and have a great weekend!

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[meteorite-list] Looking for some Albareto

2010-12-30 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List,

I am seeking a sample of Albareto for my personal collection. Preferably
several grams, but will settle for at least a gram. Must have museum or
institutional provenance. Please contact me privately if you have a piece
you are willing to part with. Cash or trade.

Thank you and Happy New Year!

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[meteorite-list] Philippe Rouc

2010-12-19 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List,

I'm looking for Philippe Rouc from France or anyone that knows him or has
dealt with him. If you could contact me off-list, I would be very grateful.

Cheers,

Mike Bandli


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[meteorite-list] AD: One last set of auctions for the year

2010-12-18 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List,

One last set of auctions for the year:

http://shop.ebay.com/historic-meteorites/m.html

Many witnessed falls started at 99 cents.

Also, we still have a few Whitecourt specimens available on our site:

http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/whitecourt-sale.html

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[meteorite-list] AD: Auctions - many falls

2010-12-10 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List,

A nice set of new auctions ending in 48 hours:

http://shop.ebay.com/historic-meteorites/m.html

Bruderheim, Peekskill, Cangas de Onis, Homestead, and a bunch of others.
Everything started at 99 cents!

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Re: [meteorite-list] A new meteorite hunter makes her first find /Congratulations Arlene

2010-12-10 Thread Mike Bandli
Few things beat that first one! Congrats, Arlene!

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wahlpe...@aol.com
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 6:27 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] A new meteorite hunter makes her first find
/Congratulations Arlene

Hi List,

I would like to Congratulate Arlene Schlazer on making her first ever 
meteorite find. She was out hunting with her husband, Brix and I on a 
remote dry lake bed when she made the wonderful discovery.  It looks 
like we have a fierce competitor coming into the hunting arena!  : )


http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/ORDINARY_CHONDRITES.html


Sonny








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Re: [meteorite-list] Whitecourt Video

2010-12-08 Thread Mike Bandli
Wow! Half-kilo! Thanks for sharing this, Murray!


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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Murray
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Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:05 AM
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Whitecourt Video

I am relaying an email for a friend who can't seem to post to the list.
Murray


Dear Listers:

Here is a video I made of Whitecourt this summer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unJ2UEi0vMs

Hope you-all can see it.


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