[meteorite-list] age of meteorites
greetings to all, my background is in electronics. everything deals with either C or C2. Einstein states that nothing goes faster than the speed of light and that as you approach the speed of light, things get older slower. So this meteorite in it's travels is going at a rate that is a subtantual percentage of the speed of light. Has anyone taken this into consideration when placing an age on the meteorite? Just a thought to tickle the old brain cells!! Pete Shugar __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] for sale
for sale: $200 firm 2 main mass--NWA 1953 and NWA 1956 both from the Utas collection. NWA 1953 has the coa and the NWA 1956 I can't find the coa. These are small' NWA 1953 is 11.7 gm and NWA 1956 is 31.17 gm Both are mounted on homemade c-clamps with stained wood bases. Tagish lake in a small bottle Micro-tektitesfrom the Chicxulub K-T boundary Mills NM 4 gm w/3 coas Anorthosite NWA 8657 Martian Shergottite pendant and hourglass shaped 4 SA 1 Shrapnell and 3 others HonaLuLu .072 gm ALH 76009 .03, .022, .1 gm Djoumine .5 gm Ol Yellow NWA slice campo and campo crystal NWA Looks sorta like the Venus breast Canyon 16.31 gm 2 UNWA orientated 2 UNWA Gibeon cube approx 1/2 inch Gibeon w/ 2 inclusions NWA 869 ball shaped Tagish Lake labeled Comet dust Salar 1.21 gm 2 Alende UNWA 42.4 gm thin (1/8) slice L'Aigle micro LA 002 Martian CD spheroids Iridium .1 gm NWA 4716 end slice with rivers of iron showing paired to NWA 4857 martian cast of NWA 1195 (both pieces) Asterisk * type stamp from Ninninger estate NWA 5000 2007 card w/ 34 mg lunar Number 09 Meteorite cards inaugural edition Number 1 sealed __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Texas meteorite collection for sale
For sale: depending on how you count, 99 to 107 locations in Texas, ranging from micros to nice sized samples. Excel list on request. $2000 firm plus shipping. Car dying, need to replace. I paid over 2700 for this collection piecemeal over the years. original COAS lost in fire but almost all coa notes on excel file. Pete Shugar __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Main Mass NWA 1953
One main mass from the Utas collection. (Label) Largest fragment forward thrown from the Main Mass. I believe this to be the main mass from a total of 67 g. total weight. Main mass is NWA 1953, 11.7 g. It is L5 S2 W3 Home made c caliper stand wood base and small square c frame. nice Gold label. Pics on request Need 125.00 Pete Shugar __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite words
MeteoriteBlight What the rust is called on your prized meteorite. Pete __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] more Meteorite words
Hemaroid---What you get if you eat a piece of the meteorite that you found. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Some meteorite words
Here's one A MeteoriteHit A hammer meteorite MeteoriteBurger A flaming meteorite at the bottom of the crater. Pete __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Setting
I can't get this figured out to save my hinnie. How do you get the list to show your own posts to the list. When I first got on the list about 3 years ago, I saw my own posts, now nothing. Many is the time I post to the list, only to have my post ignored. At least if I can see my posts then I know they were just ignored instead of never making it to the list. I reiterate, Since Tahoka has never been classified, would I be out of line to acquire a sample and send it in to be classified? Pete __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Test
Test--Please delete Pete __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] RE Tahoka Question
Has anyone ever sent in Tahoka to be classified? I don't have a very great amount of this material, but I'd be willing to either get more or send in a piece of mine to get it officially classified and into the Met-Bul. Would there be a problem with this? Related question- I have 3 main massesshould I let the Met Bul know that I hold them? Pete IMCA 1733 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Small Asteroid 2010 AL30 Will Fly Past TheEarth
So if an object hit the earth (it must by definition be a meteorite as it made it thru the atmosphere and into contact with the earth). Does this make our Moon (or portions of it) meteorites? I don't think it will fit on my bookshelf but I'd kill to own a piece of that meteorite. Pete IMCA 1733 - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net To: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu Cc: Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov; Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Small Asteroid 2010 AL30 Will Fly Past TheEarth Hi, Larry, List, As usual. my definitions seems to be old and out-of-date (appropriate). Larry is absolutely right. The current official definition of a meteoroid from the International Astronomical Union is a solid object moving in interplanetary space, of a size considerably smaller than an asteroid and considerably larger than an atom. The Royal Astronomical Society has proposed a new definition where a meteoroid is between 100 µm and 10 m across. The NEO definition includes larger objects, up to 50 m in diameter, in this category. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu To: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net Cc: Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov; Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Small Asteroid 2010 AL30 Will Fly Past TheEarth Hi Sterling: A meteoroid is an natural object in orbit around the Sun that is smaller than an asteroid. There has already been a discussion of what constitutes a small asteroid and what consitutes a large meteoroid. Technically, cometary dust particles are all meteoroids. Also, technically, 2010 AL30 is NOT a meteoroid. It has been detected and given an asteroid designation and is thus an asteroid, not a meteoroid. Given the number of observations that have been made and the fact that there may soon be some radar observations, we will never lose this object and technically, it could even be numbered and named. There is nothing in te definition of a meteoroid that requires it to be able to survive Earth entry. Larry Hi, Melanie and List, What defines a meteoroid is that some portion of it survives entry into the Earth's atmosphere and ends up on the surface of the Earth as a meteorite. So, we don't know it's a meteoroid until after the whole adventure is over and done with. We can't say a rock is a meteoroid while it's still in space because we don't know the outcome yet. On the other hand, any rock that could intersect the Earth (or be deflected to do so) is a potential meteoroid. Size is not the criteria. A small asteroid (like the iron that made Meteor Crater) is a meteoroid because of all those Canyon Diablos. Whatever hit Tunguska is NOT a meteoroid because nobody ever found a piece of it. 2010 AL30 could be a meteoroid if it would hit and leave a piece to be recovered. Just be very patient and live a long time... (Always a good idea anyway.) Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca To: Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov; Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Small Asteroid 2010 AL30 Will Fly Past TheEarth Hello everyone - hope you all had a happy new year! Interesting. I have been wondering - what is the size of natural space objects that the draws the line between an asteroid and a meteoroid? Could this be considered a meteoroid? Regards --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! - Original Message From: Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 4:10:27 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Small Asteroid 2010 AL30 Will Fly Past The Earth http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news167.html Small Asteroid 2010 AL30 Will Fly Past The Earth Don Yeomans, Paul Chodas, Steve Chesley Jon Giorgini NASA/JPL Near-Earth Object Program Office January 12, 2010 [Graphic) Trajectory of Asteroid 2010 AL30 Past Earth on January 12/13, 2010 Asteroid 2010 AL30, discovered by the LINEAR survey of MIT's Lincoln Laboratories on Jan. 10, will make a close approach to the Earth's surface to within 76,000 miles on Wednesday January 13 at 12:46 pm Greenwich time (7:46 EST, 4:46 PST). Because its orbital period is nearly identical to the Earth's one year period, some have suggested it may be a manmade rocket stage in orbit about the Sun. However, this object's orbit, reaches the orbit of Venus at
[meteorite-list] Meteorite photo of the day?????
Anybody know what happened to the meteorite photo of the day? Is he sick? Or just swamped at work? Pete __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Question
Quick-- Who was the king at Ensisheim? I need it for the presentation. Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re photos
I have a couple of photos of todays presentation but since you can't send pics to the list, how do I show them to everyone? Pete IMCA 1733 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re super magnet
What's a good source for a super magnet? How much? Pete IMCA1733 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re needs
List, I have 10 more presentations scheduled for this year, after these 2. Any and all help is very much appreciated. This one on the 4th is very special to me as I had a virus in my left ear that left me deaf in that ear in April. I had always wanted to learn sign so I started to work on that about 12 years ago. I used it a lot in church, but I never thought I would need it in real life. Anything donated will be credited and all will be used if not this school year, then next year. I already have 2 scheduled for the next school year, These 2 are the base presentations every year. My address is: Pete Shugar 4700 S Virginia Apt 208 Amarillo, Tx 79109 806 290 3374 Many thanks, Pete IMCA 1733 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] addendum
List, There will be 31 kids all total. Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Engineering Christmas
Einstein would give his eye teeth to ride with the jolly red coat. Pete - Original Message - From: Dark Matter freequa...@gmail.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 6:27 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Engineering Christmas Hi All, Once again, it seems it has befallen upon me uphold the job of official Santa Physics story reposter. So, in the true spirit of the season, here it is yet again. And as always, I have not checked the math. Enjoy. Martin Engineering Christmas: Some points of contention. There are approximately two billion children (persons under 18) in the world. However, since Santa does not visit children of Muslim, Hindu, Jewish or Buddhist religions, this reduces the workload for Christmas night to 15% of the total, or 378 million (according to the Population Reference Bureau). At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children per household, that comes to 108 million homes, presuming that there is at least one good child in each dwelling. Santa has about 31 hours of Christmas to work with thanks to the different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he travels east to west which seems logical. This works out to 967.7 visits per second. This is to say that for each Christian household with a good child, Santa has about 1/1000th of a second to park the sleigh, hop out, jump down the chimney, fill the stockings, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left for him, get back up the chimney, jump into the sleigh and get on to the next house. Assuming that each of these 108 million stops is evenly distributed around the earth (which of course, we know to be false, but will accept for the purpose of our calculations), we are now talking about 0.78 miles per household; a total trip of 75.5 million miles, not counting bathroom stops or other breaks. This requires that Santa's sleigh moves at 650 miles per second--3000 times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest man-made vehicle, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles per second, and conventional reindeer can run at best 30 miles per hour. The payload of the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming that each child gets nothing more than a medium sized Lego set (two pounds), the sleigh is carrying over 500,000 tons, not counting Santa himself. On land a conventional reindeer can pull about 300 pounds. Even granting that the flying reindeer could pull ten times the normal amount, the job just cannot be done with eight or nine of them-- Santa would need 360,000 reindeer! This increases the payload, not counting the weight of the sleigh, another 54,000 tons or roughly seven times the weight of the Queen Elizabeth (the ship, not the monarch). 4.600,000 tons traveling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air resistance-- this would heat up the reindeer in the same fashion as spacecraft re-entering the earth's atmosphere (which may explain Rudolph's red nose). The lead pair of reindeer would absorb 14.3 quintillion joules of energy per second. In short, they would instantaneously vaporize exposing the reindeer behind them to the same friction and also creating deafening sonic booms in their wake. The entire reindeer team would vanish within 4.26 thousandths of a second, or right about the time Santa reached the fifth house on his trip. Not that it matters, however since Santa, as a result of accelerating from a dead stop to 650 miles per second in .001 seconds, would be subjected to centrifugal forces of 17,500 Gs. A 250 pound Santa (which seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of the sleigh by 4,315,015 pounds of force, instantly crushing his bones and organs and reducing him to a quivering red-hot blob of goo. And yet, he returns year after year. Therefore, the rules of physics obviously don't apply to Santa and his yearly mission. Speaking as an engineer, this guy must know something about relativity that we have yet to discover. HO, HO, OC. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re Tahoka
Does anybody have the skinny scoop on the gillions of sales of the Texas Meteorite Tahoka from Lynn County Texas? There are almost always a Fleabay auction for Tahoka, but it's conspicuous absence from the Met-Bul gives me the Willies. Is this a verboden meteorite per IMCA guidelines??? Pete IMCA 1733 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Needs for 4 Jan 2010 presentation
I need four NWA's 5 gm or less for two presentations at back to back classes at a school for the deaf. (Donations are best, but if I have to buy, please keep the price down.) Two will be for a drawing and the other two will be to leave with the science teachers. I would like to have one Stone and one iron for the teachers if at all possible. I had a chance to visit, one on one, with a teacher and student, but my signing, tho slow, and I don't always know the sign, was making the girl very excited. She was so excited to hold a piece of a star in her hand. I can't wait to see the kids again. I'll be writing an article for Meteorite Magazine on this one as I fully expect it to be a very special pair of classes. As you can imagine, these kids are not in the mainstream of education, so I want to make it outstanding for them. Larry, Can you use another write-up? Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Indian scientists detect signs of life on Moon
Yes there was life on the moon Apollo 11 astronauts Apollo 12 astronauts Apollo 14 astronauts Apollo 15 astronauts Apollo 16 astronauts, and lastbut not least, Apollo 17 astronauts I rest my case Pete - Original Message - From: Michael Fowler mqfow...@mac.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Michael Fowler mqfow...@mac.com Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Indian scientists detect signs of life on Moon Finding organics on the moon is one thing, Extrapolating life is quite another. Reporters get so carried away by these reports. I wonder, are they always that gullible, or do they sensationalize to keep the ratings and readership up? Could there be organics on the moon? Of course! Ever hear of carbonaceous chondrites? They have organic (carbon based) compounds in abundance and even amino acids. Do you suppose it is possible that the moon gets bombarded by carbonaceous meteorites? Could a reporter know this? Maybe. Should a scientist know this? Should I continue.. Does that mean there is life on the Moon? I'll let you decide. Sincerely, Mike Fowler Chicago PS I've been wanting to thank Paul a long time for providing links to so many interesting scientific articles. Indian scientists detect signs of life on Moon by Bhargavi Kerur, DNA, Read the World, december 12, 2009 http://www.dnaindia.com/scitech/report_indian-scientists-detect-signs-of-life-on-moon_1322785 Life on the moon, The Irish Times, December 12, 2009 http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2009/1212/1224260586652.html Sounds like a reporter is getting carried away with his imagination. Does anyone know anything about the claim in the first article that: However, traces of amino acids, which are basic to life, were found in the soil retrieved by the Apollo-11 astronauts.? Yours, Paul H. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorwrongs
If you have not gotten your meteorwrong from Joe, you seriously need to get one. This is the most realistic wrong on the planet. It has metal, pseudo chrondrules, shock veins, metal inclusions, a very realistic matrix, what will pass for fusion crust, and it just looks like the real deal. I defey you to just look at it without any magnifying glasses or other means of analysis, save only a magnet. and say it's what ever the heck it is. That's just the thingwhat the heck is it? I dunno, but it sure looks like the real thing. Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 13 years later - Martian meteorite surrenders new secrets
Since NWA 998 is of the same general compositional structure, does this mean that NWA 998 might also have some of the same secrets to give up * as does ALH 84001? ^ If I remember correctly, NWA 998 also had water and other components ^ as does ALH 84001. ^ What will this do to the price of Martian meteorites? ^ Just asking questions and hoping to learn more. - Original Message - From: Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com To: bob varish bolidecha...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 13 years later - Martian meteorite surrenders new secrets I would have to say now: ALH84001 is the most valuable, rare and important meteorite on earth. Greg S. Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:20:35 -0800 From: bolidecha...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] 13 years later - Martian meteorite surrenders new secrets 13 years later - Martian meteorite surrenders new secrets of possible life BY CRAIG COVAULT SPACEFLIGHT NOW Posted: November 24, 2009 Compelling new data that chemical and fossil evidence of ancient microbial life on Mars was carried to Earth in a Martian meteorite is being elevated to a higher plane by the same NASA team which made the initial discovery 13 years ago. Sources tell Spaceflight Now that the new data are providing a powerful new case for the Allen Hills Meteorite to have carried strong evidence of Martian life to Earth -- evidence that is increasingly standing up to scrutiny as new analytical tools are used to examine the specimen. The latest findings are the product of new research using more advanced High Resolution Electron Microscopy than was in existence when the initial findings were made and announced by NASA and the White House in 1996. Those laboratory sensors are being focused directly on carbonate discs and associated tiny magnetite crystals present inside the meteorite Allen Hills ALH 84001. More at: __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ablation Zone 5 Layers...AND Crust
Now there's a $27.87 dollar word if I ever heard one-autodidactly One who is self taught. WOW - Original Message - From: MEM mstrema...@yahoo.com To: altm...@meteorite-martin.de; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 12:12 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ablation Zone 5 Layers...AND Crust - Greg Stanley wrote: See Fig. 1 on this UCLA web page. http://www.ess.ucla.edu/research/cosmochem/meteorite.asp Not sure if Dr. Wasson has written any papers regarding fusion crusts on irons, but I would think he would endorse anything on the web page. So Gregg, if your statement is true, Dr.Wasson and/or UCLA endorses the formation of rusty fusion crust actually formed during decent? ( Fig 1 or is it the regmaglyts that formed during passage and they are on top of the rusty fusion crust?) The issue is deeper than the semantic arguments, glossary obsolesence and lies in the differences of origin, composition, and presence of crust on different classes of meteorites. In the old school, a crust is generally removable from the underlying substrate and a dipping in molten metal alloy pushes the envelope of being a crust, however Buchwald illustrated that this was a combination of free metal and oxides. I conceed that irons--most all freshly fallen ones anyway , do have a fused surface that we can by convention call crust but the question remains as to what is the crust which is a few microns thick versus coatings and halos etc. There is danger of promoting ignorance by making assumptions that everything which is called crust is identical. I am old school and I have the (un)reasonable expectation that where a distinction does lie, that the collector can understand why things are the way they are and not abuse the descriptions when they try to peddle their specimens. Very few understood the distinction of silicate content when addressing irons as the presence of silicates,oxides, carbides,phosphides, etc largely govern the nature of a particular crust and gives insight into what went on during that miliseconds of exposure when the final surface was formed. Why it matters to me is 1) the abuse of the term in describing meteorite conditions 2) the science of understanding the differences in crust origin and composition and 3) how do we make the distinction amongst flight markings and do they differ from fusion crust? I am satisfied that 1)one of the iron specimens cited in this discussion apparently do have a silicate content that provided for a glassy fusion crust and its origin is intriguing scientifically. 2)That by definition alone (fused + coating) the irons do routinely have a fused coating/crust which differs significantly from our traditional concept of crust even though it is indistinguishable from the interior to the naked eye. (Do folks really see the crust or do they see if because it is supposed to be there?) At what point in weathering do we see that the welded crust/layer on an iron has rusted away given it is a few microns thick? 90% of the time, the seller will be claiming crusted long after the crust is gone, IMO. I've seen little to nothing so far that invalidates describing the ablation zone nor crust in layers--Nor did Buchwald, apparently. Finally, the term big-head someone used probably translates to arrogant Either way it was used in error as I was misunderstood. I did not disparage the pioneers in the field or meteoritical study. They gained their meteoritical knowledge largely autodidactly when they came over. I mentioned their former fields because when an individual crosses over into a different field of research, one can not just presume that they immediately acquire the entire knowledge base of those who were formerly educated in the same field. Elton __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re Newbies
I have sat by and watched a lot of venom be injected into this good list. It exists to further the hobby and dealers that supply the hobby with high grade honest new meteorites so we can spend our dwindling cash on them to get our daily fix. Howard, it is plain to see that you are out for only #1 (you) so get off your high hobby horse and leave those of us who are trying to learn from those who would help us to further our knowledge, alone. I am so glad that there are those that do help us, both of the Hupe's, Mike B, Gary Fujihara, Dave G, Mike G, Rob Wesel, even Mike Farmer as gruff as he is still takes the time to throw a bone of knowledge to the newbie, Michael Cottingham. I'm quite sure I have left out about 30 or so of people of outstanding character, please accept my apologies. Recently, we have lost some of the really big guns, Norton, Wallace and several others that I can't remember their names right this second. And then there are those that have left the list because of the insistent on argueing first foremost and always with someone either learning from someone that is disliked by another list member. GO AWAY, WE DON'T NEED ARGUMENTIVE PEOPLE, WE NEED HELP, THIS IS WHY WE ASK FOR HELP. In a nutshell, if your comment isn't helpful, please (how can I say this kindly) SHUT UP. Pete IMCA 1733 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Question
What is the smallest Main Mass and as a bonus question, who has it? I hold a NWA 1953 @ 11.73 gm. Anyone got a smaller one? Pete IMCA 1733 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re Meteorites and Magnets
I have done a lot of research and many experiments and now I am about ready to write an article, proposing a theory as to why meteorites are attracted to a magnet, but the meteorite can't be made into a magnet. Stay tuned Pete IMCA 1733 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Way too many sales posts ....Cottingham !
Michael, If I can go a whole week without looking at even one of your ads, can I get a free Texas meteorite? I promise on boy scouts honor not to peek at even one post. Pete IMCA 1733 - Original Message - From: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:57 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Way too many sales posts Cottingham ! Hello, This is a post, via the list to myself. DUDE - You have to stop sending so many sales posts to the list. I mean stop it. You must have sent at least 5 or more in the last 10 days. You have broken the list rules several times over! Now stop it. Do you not have any respect for the people of this list. Most of us could care less about buying your meteorites and yet you seem to think that people on this list want to buy meteorites-especially yours. Over and over you post, trying to come up with all types of sales to drag people over to your ebay store to buy your meteorites. Just because you have 100's of specimens to choose from does not give you the right to post more than 1 ad a week. Please try and stay with the policy. Please. Your alter and rational pleading self Michael Cottingham PS. If you can go without posting to the list for at least 7 days (Ads that is) I will give you a free meteorite! __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Tahoka questions
OK, Whats going on here? Was ist loist? I just looked and you are right, it's outta there! This is weird. I demand an investigation. Our prezz disapeared Tahoka and that's why he got the Nobel? Pete - Original Message - From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com To: i...@imcamail.de Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:16 AM Subject: [IMCA] Tahoka questions I have a couple samples of Tahoka an L5 from Texas... My question is, where can I find any information on this? Is it an official meteorite? I dont see it listed in the MetBul. I had a sample on the EOM, but it was removed (?) Several IMCA and non IMCA members have it for sale, but no information on it. Any help would be great. Thanks, Greg C. www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA 4682 ___ IMCA mailing list i...@imcamail.de http://lists.imcamail.de/mailman/listinfo/imca __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Question
Just how do you pronounce this: Fukang? Pete IMCA 1733 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] What are the odds? or a search for Amarilo's first meteorite
While walking to my bus (I monitor the urchins-- opps--make that kids) on their ride home. As I walked to the bus this one dark stone looked different, so I picked it up and promptly forgot about it. When I got home, I emptied my pockets and saw the stone. I grabbed my standard magnet from a hard drive (I always try to use the same magnet so the results will be meaningful as a comparison). It didn't snap to it but nevertheless it was attracted to the magnet. The stone is black and has many places that form points of light sparkles as I turn it in my hand. It is very hard as it took about 5 minutes of good hard filling to get even a small window opened up. The window showed metal so the next step is the nickel test tomorrow. (I hope my supplies are still good after Just sitting on a shelf sealed in an air tight container). Any comments on whether they might stay good? Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] RePallasites
Hello list, I have a question. I have a piece of Brenham, Ks. It has very slim metal dividers that seperate the Olivine crystal pockets. There are other Pallasites that have much thicker metal dividers with smaller Olivine pockets. The questionwould the former be formed further from the core than the latter? In other words, are there differences in the Olivine/Ni-Fe ratio if the meteorite comes from the area closer to the core or further away from the core per a cubic meter quantity of each. Pete IMCA 1733 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Slow cooling rate of irons in space
May I please inject just the one comment? In space, the side facing the star (in our case, the sun) can get quite hot, ie close to the sun --hotter, and further away---less hot. Conversly--the side away from the star can approach very high negative degrees, ie 250 to 400 below zero. This is the so darn cold you were thinking about. Pete - Original Message - From: Carl 's carloselgua...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:18 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Slow cooling rate of irons in space Hi Elton and All, I've read about the very slow cooling rate of the molten iron in various books but I don't understand why this is so. Why would it take millions of years for just a few drops of degrees? It's hard for me to envision this even accounting for bombardments and radioactive decay. Radioactivity from the original super nova event, right? Maybe it's because I think of space as being so darned cold it wouldn't take anything long to lose heat and freeze up. I realize radioactivity takes a long time to decay but would it take a lot or so little to keep a large planetary body hot for so long? Thanks. Carl Eman wrote: I think this theory has a potential fatal flaw if what we think we know about taenite/kamacite growth is valid. Without an insulating blanket the molten pool will not exist in a molten state long enough to permit crystallization aka Widmanstatten patterns. Be it remembered that Widmanstatten pattern/crystal growth is very very slow on the order of 10's of degrees cooling per million years. It is difficult to develop a scenario that integrates a large crater on an Goldilocks Asteroid which works.. .. _ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_faster:082009 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Slow cooling rate of irons in space
I'm not sure 100%, but the liquid state of the iron core with its corresponding movement is what's responsible for the shifting magnetic north and south poles of the earth. Were it to cool to a stable mass (read non molten) I believe the Earth's magnetic poles would no longer shift. Just my thoughts on the matter. My area of expertise is in Electronics, not geophysical sciences. Pete - Original Message - From: Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au To: Rob McCafferty rob_mccaffe...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Slow cooling rate of irons in space This is one of the best threads I've seen on the list for quite a while. Interesting stuff! So have the Martian Rovers found specific evidence from any changes that may have taken place on Mars when it cooled? And what happens when the Earth cools? Will this affect things like the Earth's electromagnetic field? Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: Rob McCafferty rob_mccaffe...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Slow cooling rate of irons in space The so darn cold thing refers to objects not being lit/heated by their star. Day sides will heat up until they radiate more heat than they absorb. Night sides will cool as quickly as physics (and any atmosphere) allows. If one face of Mars stayed pointing at the sun all the time, it would be quite warm on a permanently daylit side. It attains 20degC at the equator during the day as it is. Given that the only method of heat transfer is conduction, requiring direct contact of atoms, until you get to the surface where they can radiate heat away, it seems more reasonable that a moderately sized body may keep a hot core warm for a very long period of time. Particularly if you have the core covered with a crust made of poorly adjoined fragements of rock, acting as a blanket possibly hundreds of km deep. The physics of the planetary cooling has long been worked out. For me, the amazing thing is just how the mass of the planet changes the cooling time. Mars is believed to have stayed hot enough to keep it's volcanoes going until 1Ga ago. Now it's interior is too cold. Smaller bodies generally stopped being active much earlier. Venus they're not sure about. Rob Mc Rob McC --- On Sun, 9/6/09, Pete Shugar pshu...@clearwire.net wrote: From: Pete Shugar pshu...@clearwire.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Slow cooling rate of irons in space To: Carl 's carloselgua...@hotmail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 12:34 AM May I please inject just the one comment? In space, the side facing the star (in our case, the sun) can get quite hot, ie close to the sun --hotter, and further away---less hot. Conversly--the side away from the star can approach very high negative degrees, ie 250 to 400 below zero. This is the so darn cold you were thinking about. Pete - Original Message - From: Carl 's carloselgua...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:18 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Slow cooling rate of irons in space Hi Elton and All, I've read about the very slow cooling rate of the molten iron in various books but I don't understand why this is so. Why would it take millions of years for just a few drops of degrees? It's hard for me to envision this even accounting for bombardments and radioactive decay. Radioactivity from the original super nova event, right? Maybe it's because I think of space as being so darned cold it wouldn't take anything long to lose heat and freeze up. I realize radioactivity takes a long time to decay but would it take a lot or so little to keep a large planetary body hot for so long? Thanks. Carl Eman wrote: I think this theory has a potential fatal flaw if what we think we know about taenite/kamacite growth is valid. Without an insulating blanket the molten pool will not exist in a molten state long enough to permit crystallization aka Widmanstatten patterns. Be it remembered that Widmanstatten pattern/crystal growth is very very slow on the order of 10's of degrees cooling per million years. It is difficult to develop a scenario that integrates a large crater on an Goldilocks Asteroid which works.. .. _ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_faster:082009 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman
[meteorite-list] Removal from the list
Has anyone noticed just how many have been leaving the list in the last few weeks? I have to wonder what might be the reason for all these departures. I certainly hope that all the bickering has not driven them off. Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] comedy
Oh great meteorite, I offer up to this great piece of fusion crust as a sacrifice of thanks for sending my copy of Meteorite Magazine. I will offer up an even better piece if you send my Authors copy to me so I can give it to the school principal. Pete IMCA 1733 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re meteorite Magazine
This is so unfair! Everyone is talking about my article and my copy is not in my mailbox. I looked three times yesterday. Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re famous words
What a revoltin' development this is! See if anyone remembers who said that one. Everyone saying how they liked My First Meteorite Presentation and I have to see it from a scan BECAUSE MY COPY STILL IS NOT HERE. What a revoltin' development this is! One of these days Meteorite Magazine, one of these days, pow right in the kisser! I've looked over, under, behind, inside, and just about everywhere else, and still no magazine. Heck, there's just a big ol empty mailbox with nuttin' in it. Not even a Bill. Of course I did not expect any bills as I told my mail carrier that my name was not William and I didn't want any Bills. I get them anyway, just not today. Ok, I'll git back off the soap box and back into hiding now. Pete IMCA 1733 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The Big Question
Maybe this has been covered before, or maybe not. Please define and describe what slickensides are/is. How can you recognize them? Are they common, or is this a rare thing. Help me understand it, please. Pete IMCA 1733 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] re holes
Theres a germ on flea on the hair on the wart on the frog on the bump on the log in the sand in the hole on the bottom of the sea. Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Darryl Futrell Tektite Lamp
Imagine what this would look like if it were made with a quantity of pallasite thin sections. THAT would be a sight to behold. Maybe I'd better declare it copyrighted so I don't loose the idea Pete IMCA 1733 - Original Message - From: Aubrey Whymark tinbi...@yahoo.co.uk To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:51 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Darryl Futrell Tektite Lamp Hi List Unfortunately I never knew Darryl Futrell. I have, however, read many of his articles which I certainly find interesting even if I do not agree with the conclusions. In an article titled 'The Lunar Origin of Tektites' in Rock Gem Feb 1999 there is a photo of a fantastic Tektite 'Tiffany' Style lamp. This was made by Dan Wright from natural un-cut thin splashform tektites from Thailand. See it here: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/JHsNghP_3Rcb0QbP9zHr_w?authkey=Gv1sRgCM6XzLrq76-GKQfeat=directlink Does anyone know what happened to this lamp? Also are there any more in existence? It is a fantastic piece! Regards, Aubrey www.tektites.co.uk --- On Thu, 13/8/09, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Subject: [meteorite-list] In memoriam Darryl Futrell - Gone but not forgotten To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, 13 August, 2009, 12:26 PM Dear List, Saturday, 21 July 2001, Darryl sent me these lines: Would you believe I have a letter from the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Beijing, from one of their top two tektite researchers, inviting me to go there and do tektite field work with them? Monday, 13 August 2001, Darryl passed away after a severe heart attack. Of course, he would have loved to accept this invitation, but, alas, in the same mail he also wrote: Six or more years ago, I would have gone, but now there's no way. Best wishes, Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Nasa Touts Kepler probe discoveries
List, In the Sunday edition of the Amarillo Globe-News on page 21A is a very nice article on the Kepler Probe. This device has the finest light detection system of any instrument in orbit by a factor of over 100 times over anything ground based. This means it can detect the difference in light intensity from a solar system that is in the constellation Cygnus with a Jupiter class planet that passes in front of the star (a transit of the sun). The planet is called HAT-P-7b. All in all, a fine tool to explore the universe. It may even be able to help answer the age old question: Are we alone? Pete IMCA 1733 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] follow up on Kem Kem
Hello www.planetbrey.com still has some Kem Kem for sale that is the same as what I have. Check the left side about half way down. Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] re Kem Kem
Hello, I don't mean to stir up a hornet's net but... I was told, by who I don't remember, that Kem Kem was a generic name for what we now know as NWA. I have a 3.56 gm part slice of Kem Kem and it is a H5 from Dahara, Morocco. It was found in August of 1999. My piece came from Planetbrey Meteorites. It has a dark matrix with lots of small metal flakes and a brown fusion crust that has white soil on one end. This doesn't sound like what you guys are talking about. I doubt this is a fake. This is real meteorite material. Any help here Pete IMCA 1733 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Question
There must be a way to see your own posts. Back when I first got on the list, I could do it, but now it's a thing of the past---or---I forgot how I did it. People have told meto go to the preferences page and I can do it from there. Been there and done that. I need specifics pleaseI can't figure it out. Pete IMCA 1733 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Test
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Re: [meteorite-list] Alaskan Egg Meteorite
Having lived in Alaska, specifically Kotzebue while working for the Air Force, I can tell you that there were many rocks of that coloration and smoothness. He got exactlly right when he called it an Alaskan Egg Rock because thats just what it isan egg shaped rock. Pete IMCA 1733 - Original Message - From: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 2:41 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Alaskan Egg Meteorite Here's a real deal, only $1,500. Better hurry, only 2 hours left! http://cgi.ebay.com/Alaskan-Egg-Rock-meteorite_W0QQitemZ280380120583QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4147f51e07_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 Phil Whitmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re make your own Meteorite
List, Having been active in ham radio from almost the beguiling of the Amateur radio during the hey day of AMSAT-OSCAR program, I can tell you that the thrill of hearing your own return signal from the bird is a thrill every time you do it. It never ceased to get my heartbeat up 10 points. I ran the astounding power out into a ground plain antenna of 10 whole watts on the two meter uplink and with the down link on the 10 meter band. My very first contact was on AO6, otherwise called OSCAR 6 to JA1JRK in Japan while I was in Anchorage, Alaska. We had all of about 6 minutes of mutual access to the bird. I didn't see how I might become an astronaught, so this was the next best thing. My best contact was when I visited a friend's Shack. He was into moonbounce. This is where you transmit a 70 cm SSB signal into a 24 foot dish aimed at the moon and you heard your return 2.4 seconds later. It always gave me the willies because the signal had a warble to it that was unreal. I did some work when AO7 was launched. If the two birds were spaced just right, you could uplink on AO6 and AO7 would get the downlink and retransmit on it's downlink. This would allow you a much further distance to talk that either one alone. One mystery did crop up. There was an occasion of a reverse doplar. I never got to hear it directly, but I listened to the recorded tapes of the inverted dopplar. When the train approaches the whistle rises in pitch and as it departs, the whistle lowers in pitch. The same applies to a radio wave, but as the bird made a south to north pass over (get ready for it) the Bermuda triangle. the doplar was inverted no less than 7 or 8 passes during several days.. The cause was never identified. THAT was creepy. Ah, the good ol' days. It's late so I'll save another adventure re AO7's death and resurection 20 plus years later for retelling then. 73's de Pete KL7GNW-IMCA 1733 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] What is this?
Anybody have a look at this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=360161621595ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT I gotta wonder because he states that it is not white inside. BUT, his customers are all HAPPY? What's the posibility this is another older fall in the same general area as West-Ash Creek fall. Pete IMCA 1733 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re Yadda Yadda
Hate by the bucket full. Discontent by the gallon. Strife and discord by the shovelfull. I'm sick of it.!!! I don't post often and I think that those that post ads aren't really that bad. Mike Cottingham does it. Eric does it with his UNWA's. Chicago Steve does it. I'd much rather have to delete their emails than to start on a post from some whinny guy that's too lazy to use the delete key. What's wrong with this list is all the whinning and bitching that goes on and on and on and on ad infinium, ad nausium. I am sick of it. Everyone on the list is sick of it. Do the list a favor---Buzz off! This is also for all the other whinners on the list. Lord have mercy on us and deliver us from the tempation of coming unglued at these people. JUST GO AWAY! Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites
Wonder whatthis costs per gram? Pete - Original Message - From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com To: 'Martin Altmann' altm...@meteorite-martin.de; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Peter Scherff petersche...@rcn.com Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites This link may work better for some: http://tinyurl.com/lxobxd -- Richard Kowalski http://fullmoonphotography.net IMCA #1081 --- On Sun, 7/26/09, Peter Scherff petersche...@rcn.com wrote: From: Peter Scherff petersche...@rcn.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites To: 'Martin Altmann' altm...@meteorite-martin.de, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 5:00 AM Hi, A Martian meteorite officially exists: http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/index.php?sea=marssfor=placesants=falls=va lids=stype=exactlrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Marssrt=namecateg=Allmbl ist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=nocode=32789 Peter -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Martin Altmann Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 6:38 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites Meteorites on Moon are officially called meteorites. Find in the search form of the Bulletin database in the field, where you select the countries: Moon. http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php Official Meteorites on Mars can't exist yet, because we still have no possibilities to hand in the mandatory deposit masses at the classifying institutes, therefore they can't be recognized as official meteorites according the rules of NomCom. I'd say. Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Steve Dunklee Gesendet: Freitag, 24. Juli 2009 12:27 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar meteorites I don't know if this has ever been talked about before but if you found a meteorite on mars or the moon when we have people there, what are we going to call them? Unless we change the definitions we can't call ones from mars, martian meteorites. Any ideas people? Have a great day Steve Dunklee __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Proper field data
Now that is a question I need to get answered. I never thought about it before. Pete - Original Message - From: Mark Bowling mina...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 6:52 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Proper field data Hey all, What info do you recommend collecting when a find is made in the field? GPS coordinates (and datum used), in situ photos with a scale and weight are a given. But what else? I've also heard that one should not to apply a magnet to a new meteorite because a manget can affect the magnetic susceptibility (doesn't a metal detector affect it too?). What about an historic location versus a new fall? Everyone mentions collecting data, but are we all on the same page? Clear skies, Mark Vail, AZ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Aliens
To any and all aliens who may happen to read this list---if you are smart enough to even read. You got your drivers license for that clunker you dare to call a spaceship from the little green man from Mars. You couldn't hit the broadside of my apartment with your ray gun even if I stuck the doorknob in your barrel. You smell mangy fron the long trip to our wonderful corner of the universe. Take a bath You look like the dickins, with what little hair you have all coming out of your nose and ears. I can't understand what you are mumbling, since you insist on trying to talk with your mouth full of your version of C Rations. What I do hear sounds like a screaching bird of some sort. I'm cripple and deaf in one ear, but I think I could take you with one hand tied behind my back, you beady eyed maggott. I'll even give you my address, but you probably can't follow a map even if your wife did give you directions. Pete PS bring plenty of rocks to throw at me since you can't shoot worth a dingdong. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Pitiful excuse for a meteorite hunter Carl Esparza
I'm sorry bur the comment about Boys was so far out of line that is is somewhere close to the former planet Pluto. Having had one former Ebayer use a similar line on me and all the grief it took to get the feedback removed (over 2 weeks) I know what damage can be caused in the haste to call people names. It may never be undone. Even the mere allusion of calling a person such as this is/can be very damaging. Please limit it to facts and also off list as we are all getting tired of the tirade. Pete - Original Message - From: cdtuc...@cox.net To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; cyna...@charter.net; Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pitiful excuse for a meteorite hunter Carl Esparza Okay Mike, Sorry list hopefully just one final post on this topic. I am going to answer your accusations in order that you made them. -- so you found me yesterday, you found the new fall strewn field, and you found a new meteorite all from your car. Man, you are good. Amazing that knowing where I was hunting you are today at home on the computer and not picking up new meteorites. Kinda makes you wonder. You know me. I am no spring chicken. Yesterday kicked my butt. I am sore today. This searching is hard work at 100 plus degrees but I am not done looking yet. No not all from my car. You still didn't tell the list that you were not in Carancas. My team beat you to Carancas and we sent Bob Haag ahead of you as well. This is the reason you don't like me but the truth be told. Had Bob declined my offer , you were the next name on my list to call. I wish Bob had said no because you are relentless and I would just as soon not be on your bad side. I did not have to go to Carancas because I sent Bob. Everyone who has read my ebay listing already knows this. How many new Arizona meteorites is this for you now, besides the ones from a Moroccans Tucson show table, um I mean your Arivaca ranch? Yes, I have a ranch in Arivaca. Yes I have found a few meteorites throughout Southern AZ. What have you to do with this and why are you accusing me of buying them from Moroccans. Is this something you do or what??? All of these were found prior to 2001 and have been in their possession since then and 8 years later they are being classified. I hate that it has taken this long. They used to be worth a lot more money then they are now. Mike you simply cannot go around saying stuff like this without proof. It just makes you look even stupider than you are. How would you like it if I told this list that you solicit the services of young boys? Without proof that would be silly wouldn't it? So, please stick to facts here. Or this could get real ugly. And finally Yes I found another yesterday. If you would get out and look you too would find them. You don't always have to wait until somebody tells you where to look. They are everywhere. Later. Carl or Debbie Esparza IMCA 5829 Meteoritemax Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote: Good grief, so you found me yesterday, you found the new fall strewnfield, and you found a new meteorite all from your car. Man, you are good. Amazing that knowing where I was hunting you are today at home on the computer and not picking up new meteorites. Kinda makes you wonder. You still didn't tell the list that you were not in Carancas. How many new Arizona meteorites is this for you now, besides the ones from a Moroccans Tucson show table, um I mean your Arivaca ranch? Inquiring minds want to know. Michael Farmer --- On Fri, 7/17/09, cdtuc...@cox.net cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: From: cdtuc...@cox.net cdtuc...@cox.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pitiful excuse for a meteorite hunter Carl Esparza To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, cyna...@charter.net Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 2:21 PM Darren, Thanks for that. We all need a good laugh once in a while. You are too funny. Yesterday, while SUV hunting I did find a possible meteorite from another fall. More on that later. -- Carl or Debbie Esparza IMCA 5829 Meteoritemax Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net wrote: On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:04:19 +0100, you wrote: Mike, I'm unsure what he's hunting, meteorites or vehicles...might want to look into lowjack or something. Never can tell, eh? He's a member of the IMCA-- Is Mike's Car Around? __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
[meteorite-list] Re Question for the list
I think that we also need to include, along with a tally of finds and all the other atributes, the humanitarian side of the equasion---namely, who helps others to pick up the hobby by giving guidance as well as points them in the right direction. This can even include giving a starter meteorite to the student. Who has done the best at promoting the Science of Meteorites. Pete IMCA 1733 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men on TV again 4 times in next 3 days
Is there anyone with either a DVD recorder or a VHS recorder that can record the show for me? I do not have cable so this will be the only way I can get to see it. Pete IMCA 1733 - Original Message - From: meteorh...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:58 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men on TV again 4 times in next 3 days Hello Folks, For any of you who missed the TV show Meteorite Men, or for those of you who would like to watch it again, it is airing 4 more times over the next 3 days on the Science Channel. Wed. July 15, 8:00 pm Eastern Time Wed. July 15, 11:00 pm Eastern Time Thurs. July 16, 3:00 pm Eastern Time Fri. July 17, 3:00 am Eastern Time You can also check the listings here: http://science.discovery.com/tv-schedules/series.html?paid=48.15725.126184.3 6729.1 More info about the show can be found at: www.MeteoriteMen.com Enjoy! Steve Arnold of Meteorite Men **Performance you need and the value you want! Check out great laptop deals from Dell! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223081934x1201714279/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D819 39%2D1629%2D4) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] meteorite Men
Don't forget the Tee Shirt franchise. Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Question??????
Should the new Az fireball --- now meteorites on the ground be located on BLM land, Does this mean that it can't be sold? If this is the case, may I please now request a small 1 or 2 gram free piece for my collection. I assume that I should at the least pay the postage and am willing to do that. Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re Arizona Fall
List, It is said that they want to document the fall site, map the strewn field. I have a question. In order to map the strewn field, you need to find the meteorites, right? So, if you thourghly map the strewn field, this means you find all the meteorites. What will be left for others to find??? NOTHING, as the field will be all worked out. The GPS location will be worth nothing, for there will be nothing to go look for. Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] test-delete
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[meteorite-list] Meteroite Wanted
Does anyone have a small black crusted meteorite that is not very expensive with a fusion crust compairable to the crust found on the West-Ash Creek, Tx stones? I am putting togeather a display of different fusion crust colors for a presentation and I would like to get one. Pete IMCA 1733 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: New Issue: Granite-like rocks on Vesta
I thought that the presence of Quartz was a good indication that the rock was not a meteorite ! Now it seems that at least the 4 Vesta meteorites can have some Quartz in them? Pete IMCA 1733 - Original Message - From: Jerry Flaherty g...@verizon.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 8:29 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: New Issue: Granite-like rocks on Vesta List/Darren you had asked once about granite. I don't remember if was a compositional or an origin issue. I do know that granite's crystaline structure results from slow cooling under monumental pressures [substantially 5 miles of overburden is a commonly mentioned denominator-often referred to as the roots of mountains. So what if anything does this tell us about Vesta's possible history? Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: PSRD p...@higp.hawaii.edu To: psrdm...@soest.hawaii.edu Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: New Issue: Granite-like rocks on Vesta Announcement from Planetary Science Research Discoveries [PSRD] wedsite New article online: The Complicated Geologic History of Asteroid 4 Vesta -- Meteorites from asteroid 4 Vesta show that it contains patches of granite-like rock. - We invite you to: READ: First summary paragraph for a quick overview PRINT: pdf version VIEW: short slide summary - FULL ARTICLE at: http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/June09/Vesta.granite-like.html - FIND ALL THE HEADLINE ARTICLES IN OUR ARCHIVES: http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/Archive/Contents.html - PSRD is an educational web site supported by NASA's SMD Cosmochemistry Program and the Hawaii Space Grant Consortium to share the latest research on meteorites, planets, moons, and other bodies in our Solar System. You are subscribed to our free mailing list. We never send attachments. For more information please see http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/PSRDsubscribe.html - Jeff Taylor and Linda Martel Hawaii Institute of Geophysics and Planetology, University of Hawaii p...@higp.hawaii.edu voice (808) 956-3899 fax (808) 956-6322 http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stinky Meteorite
Maybe it was a camel in the desert or the rider!!! Pete - Original Message - From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 6:49 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Stinky Meteorite Hi List, Don't laugh! This is weird... While slicing some unclassified chondrite meteorites I noticed one meteorite that was particularly odoriferous. I don't really want to say what this piece smells like as I don't know if it's appropriate list content. Let's just say that dogs lift their leg to fire hydrants, and maybe, sometime in the past, this stone just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. The smell was super intense while cutting. At first I didn't know where it was coming from, then when I finished the cut, I actually smelled the stone to see if that's where the odor was originating. Sure enough! Yuck! I've cleaned the stone throughly. No amount of cleaning will remove the smell. It's definitely coming from within the meteorite itself. Has anyone else had any of their NWA stone meteorites that smell really bad? -- Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA http://www.meteoritesusa.com 904-236-5394 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Suffolk man says he saw meteor hit
If the thing was hotwhere was the steam? Pete - Original Message - From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Suffolk man says he saw meteor hit P.S. His comment ...The shape of it, it was just too perfect to be a piece of junk.. is also a clue to the speed it was traveling. Could he see the shape clearly enough if it were moving at super sonic speed? In addition he reported he did NOT hear a sonic boom. Or I could be spending too much time on this and have nothing better to do right now. Taking a day off is good... ;) Eric Meteorites USA wrote: There are a few things left out of the report. Duration of the event, distance from his location, angle of decent, speed and azimuth. If the guy witnessed the entire event from beginning to end and the fireball was very far away at first sighting, that explains why he may not have heard the boom. It could be that it reached the retardation point long before coming close to him. The whistling noise reported is also intriguing. The report does NOT state that the ball of fire hit the water. Only that he witnessed a ball of fire. EXCERPT: The shape of it, it was just too perfect to be a piece of junk. It looked just like a miniature comet, pretty much, he said. It was really, really white with blue flames. It was pretty wild. Butler said he didn't hear the boom, only a whistling roar as the object flew past. The wind-blown water was really choppy, he added, but he could see the splash when it landed.. He did give a clue as to the direction of travel although it is extremely vague as he doesn't say which direction he was looking but rather the direction he was traveling (SOUTH). He stated the object was ..coming right at my car.. He could have been looking East or West or in his rear-view mirror for that matter. The point is it's a eye-witness report, and it's interesting enough to investigate further. Even if it does turn out to be nothing. Eric __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re meteor showers
I did a presentation to the Boy Scout troop tonight and the question was asked about regular meteor showers. I am not up on those. Does anyone have a list of the major shower dates and their names? Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ding dong hammer
If I had a hammer, . Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Paperwork
Maybe someone should send Teddy a small stone or slice as a reward all the labor he's put in keeping track of all this money from Heaven __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Unidentified object from sky destroys car inCottonwood
List, My first impression was a fried circuit board. I have seen more than my share of these after 40 years working in the electronics industry. Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] East of West
More to the point, did you spot the main mass? Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] West, Tx goodies
Greeting exalted hunters, Will any of you be offering any pieces for sale in the near future? Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Houston (Chronicle), we have a problem
Do you get the idea that the reporter flunked science class? Pete - Original Message - From: meteorh...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 12:18 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Houston (Chronicle), we have a problem Wow, How many freaking mistakes can one little meteorite story have in it? I count at least 5 big ones. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/6264797.html I guess I will send the reporters of this story and their editor a letter complaining on this one. This is just too horrid. I wonder, did their source give them bad information or did they quote her wrong? 5 minutes on Google or wikipedia could have straightened most of the errors out. No wonder no one reads newspapers anymore and their advertisers are bailing on them and they are all going bankrupt. This isn't even a political story where a reporter wants to be biased to push their own agenda on the readers. This is just a story with WRONG FACTS. Makes you wonder how wrong the stories are when the reporters want to lie to us in them? Steve #1 **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe bemailfooterNO62) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What are the top 10 most scientificallyimportant meteorites?
I would respectfully add Carancas, for it's rewriting of crater formation theory. Pete IMCA 1733 - Original Message - From: Pat Brown radio_ra...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; ensorama...@ntlworld.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What are the top 10 most scientificallyimportant meteorites? OK Allende Murchison ALH84001 Tagish Lake Canyon Diablo (for it's Crater) Nakhla Calcalong Creek Orgueil Lost City (camera network data, orbit) Peekskill (videos, orbit data) --- On Fri, 2/13/09, ensorama...@ntlworld.com ensorama...@ntlworld.com wrote: From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com ensorama...@ntlworld.com Subject: [meteorite-list] What are the top 10 most scientifically important meteorites? To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 3:55 PM Hi all, Just thought it might be interesting to discover list members opinions on what they would choose as the most important meteorites with regard to science? Which ones have been the most significant in increasing our understanding of the evolution of our solar system, and what they have taught us? Graham Ensor, UK. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Crater vs pit vs grave???
Any meteorite that can make a crater--pit with squared off corners and parallel walls is a serious contender for meteorite of the millennium. I don't doubt that everyone will want a piece of a meteorite that can do that. Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Need a chondrite
Does someone have a small chondrite (about 1 to 2 square inch size) with easy to see chrondruls that they could loan me. I need one for a presentation at my grandkids school. I have stonys and Pallasites and mesosiderties and Irons. All my stonies do not show the chrondrules very well. Thanks in advance, Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Question
I can't find where I hid the link to the archives. Can someone pass the link to me, please? Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bush, Obama, the alien perspective and a bit of science, too
If you didn't vote then shut up. If you did vote and your pick didn't win, you have a right to complain, but not on this forum, please. If you voted and your pick did win, then celebrate, but please not on this forum. Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Pallasite Vs Mesosiderite
Thank you all who responded. To recap and sum this up, would it be fair to say that a mesosiderite is material from the crust-mantle-core that has been violently mixed mush like oil and water that is rapidly shaken and almost instantly frozen? And is a Pallasite is material that is from the core-mantle boundary that is mixed, but frozen a little bit slower such that the bubbles of mantle material don't quite complete the separation back to the differentiated state? I ask this because kids will want to know the difference between the two and I needed an answer that was not too complicated to give to them. Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Next Question
I get the idea behind how the thumbprints are formed. But, what happens to the drops of molten iron? Do they just peal away and are vaporized or can they make it to the ground? Is this how the sphereoids are formed? Related question An oriented meteorite is one that was stable in flight. I see flow lines on them from the nose cone. Do thumbprints form on them? I would tend to think that that answer is no, because the material flows to the rear and either curls, or spaulds off. Does the same thing happen to the drops of material as in the above? Last question, but still related. Do stoney meteorites get thumbprints as pronounced as does the irons? And if not, then why not? Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Another teaching question
After many posts, I think that I now have a tenuous handle on the differences between Pallasites and Mesosideroites. Now the question is--- When looking at the irons, the Wittmenstraden pattern and the thickness tell whether it is a Coursest Octahedrite or just an Octahedrite. And just for giggles which are the iron and which are the nickle bands? Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Pallasite Vs Mesosiderite
OK, to me they look the same when you cut them open. What gives? Does one have more metal or more olivine than the other? Brahin is a Pallasite with beautiful olivine and metal to hold it all together. Altho I have as yet to see a slice of Vaca Muerta, a mesosiderite, just looking at it I can see what appears to be olivine crystals. Would someone chime in with a concise defination of the two, please? Thanks for the help. Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Test
Ignore this. Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] test
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Re: [meteorite-list] Most important person in modern meteorites
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[meteorite-list] test
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[meteorite-list] testing
trying this to see if it works! __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] try this
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[meteorite-list] seeing if I can send email
I just can't figure out what went wrong. Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] So many tests
I humbly appologize for the many posts. I used to get a copy everytime I sent one, but since Clearewire has changed it's server to yahoo's Gmail, I no longer get a copy of the sent email. As a result, I did not think that I was sending to the list. What was messing with my last two remaining active brain cells was the fact that I could send to members and get replies. Again, please forgive me. Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Christmas Greetings
May I please have a few moments of your time to offer a very heartfelt thanks to all the great meteorite dealers as well the many collectors that grace our wonderful list with so much wisdom, wit, and yes, even some bickering amoungst other list members. I can not help but feel that each and every meteorite is a messenger from the Gods. The science learned from all the meteorite falls and finds has made us all far more knowledgeable of how our little corner of the universe was formed and as this process still continues today. I watched the complete space program from start to finish. That was a long time ago. Just over two years ago, I lived in a wonderful spoton the Northern edge of the Odessa strewnfield. I visited the new museum, even getting to be there at the dedication. My first meteorite was an Odessa (I still have it). Then I discovered Ebay and one of my first purchases was a Lunar meteorite--a very small micro.(Thank you, Greg). With wonder, I opened the gem jar and actually touched the moon, a place that over 35 years ago, I watched in facination as Neil stepped into history. Meteorite collecting and dealing is a world wide business. Let us never lose sight of the fact that our hobby just may ignite a joy, a love of science, that will raise up a new Armstrong (to maybe in our lifetime) walk on another planetMars. May the seasons best wishes visit all in the coming new year. Pete IMCA 1733 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad- Monnig, Aml and other goodies just in time for xmas
What about the signs in a lot of store windows that say: We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone Pete IMCA 1733 - Original Message - From: Don Rawlings psc241...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad- Monnig,Aml and other goodies just in time for xmas I doubt that it would be legal to exclude anyone from bidding on your items in a public auction. I guess we will see how that one works out soon enough. Don Rawlings --- On Mon, 12/15/08, impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com wrote: From: impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad- Monnig, Aml and other goodies just in time for xmas To: bobe5...@comcast.net, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 4:35 PM Hello List-Members, On my behalf: Bob, if you are planning to go to Tucson, you will not be welcomed in my room. And if you are planning on going to Michael Blood's auction, I will ask Michael to block you from bidding on any of the 40 pieces I have entered in that auction. I do not wish to sell anything to you. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a fair price and reputable source forTrinitite?
Althou the price is on the high side, (about 30% too high) you need to remember that they need to pay for that $50,000 mass spectrometerheehee. Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Smacked by gob
At the risk of going s fr off topic as to never be able to find my way back, I ask the following: I readily admit that it sometimes does not take much to amuse me, but I find that the word Gobsmacked as probably one of the single most facinating words to ever appear on the internet. Please define. Pete - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 10:10 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Smacked by gob http://www.theage.com.au/national/googling-geologist-identifies-possible-meteorite-crater-out-the-back-of-bourke-20081122-6eix.html Googling geologist identifies possible meteorite crater out the back of Bourke * Richard Macey * November 23, 2008 A RETIRED geologist searching on Google Earth for a place to mine opals may have discovered something much bigger: a meteorite crater in outback NSW. Mike Fry, of Maryborough in central Victoria, was using the Google site last month to survey terrain when he saw an unusual structure in the red dust. The circular nature of this thing struck me, Mr Fry said. It was so distinctive, I was gobsmacked. Mr Fry, who earned a degree in geology from the University of New Mexico before coming to Australia 44 years ago to mine opals and gold, drove for 11 hours to the site to take a look. The site is about 10 kilometres north-east of White Cliffs, a town halfway between Broken Hill and Bourke in far north-western NSW. I have walked around it, he said, estimating his crater was at least two kilometres across. There is a steep slope on the eastern side, which rises 30 to 50 metres above the floor. The western rim was severely eroded. However, the eastern side had been preserved under a layer of sedimentary material called silcrete, formed from dissolved silica, that he believes was laid down more than 2 million years ago. Silcrete is as hard as concrete, Mr Fry said. The crater had to exist before the silcrete was laid down. Several scientists who looked at the images agreed that while circular shapes could be produced by many geological forces, including volcanic activity, the feature deserved further investigation. It does look the right sort of shape, said Andy Tomkins, of Monash University. It is the pattern you would expect to see. It looks interesting. Peter Haines, a senior geologist with the Geological Survey of Western Australia, said he would remain a bit sceptical until the site was tested. However, he added, just looking at it, it's something that should be followed up. Dr Tomkins and Dr Haines said finding microscopic evidence of rock that had suffered a severe shock would indicate an impact crater. If Mr Fry has found an impact crater, it would be the second such discovery using Google Earth. Last year Dr Arthur Hickman, a geologist with the Geological Survey of WA, found a crater, about 260 metres wide and up to 30 metres deep, in the Hamersley Ranges in WA's Pilbara region. Dr Haines said it was certainly possible a two-kilometre meteorite crater had gone unnoticed. It is not something that would necessarily attract the attention of someone who was not already thinking about a crater. A crater, agreed Dr Tomkins, could easily be missed. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re-2: How do you say dronino?
OT, but gut for medicine. They say that laughter is the best medicine and since I'm getting over a cold I've never laughed so hard in a long time. My grandmother tried to teach me Das (oder ist est Die) German and I swear that's what drove me around the bend. I never recovered from it Pete - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:26 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re-2: How do you say dronino? Martin wrote: @#!GRMBLGnggnn%$ Darren opined: To be fair, EVERYTHING in German sounds like that. Very off-topic but once again timefor THAT - Please enjoy :-) The Awful German Language A person who has not studied German can form no idea of what a perplexing language it is. Every time I think I have got one of these four confusing 'cases' where I am master of it, a seemingly insignificant preposition intrudes itself into my sentence clothed with an awful and unsuspected power, and crumbles the ground from under me. For instance, my book inquires after a certain bird (it is always inquiring after things which are of no sort of consequence to anybody): Where is the bird? Now the answer to this question - according to the book - is that the bird is waiting in the blacksmith shop on account of the rain. Of course no bird would do that, but then you must stick to the book. Very well, I begin to cipher out the German for that answer. I begin at the wrong end, necessarily, for that is the German idea. I say to myself, Regen (rain) is masculine - or maybe it is feminine - or possibly neuter - it is too much trouble to look, now. Therefore, it is either der (the) Regen, or die (the) Regen, or das (the) Regen, according to which gender it may tur n out to be when I look. In the interest of science, I will cipher it out on the hypothesis that it is masculine. Very well - then the rain is der Regen, if it is simply in the quiescent state of being mentioned, without enlargement or discussion - Nomina-tive case; but if this rain is lying around, in a kind of a general way on the ground, it is then definitely located, it is doing something - that is, resting (which is one of the German grammar's ideas of doing something), and this throws the rain into the Dative case, and makes it dem Regen. However, this rain is not resting, but is doing something actively - it is falling - to interfere with the bird, likely - and this indicates movement -which has the effect of sliding it into the Accusative case and changing dem Regen into den Regen. Having completed the grammatical horoscope of this matter, I answer up confidently and state in German that the bird is staying in the blacksmith shop 'wegen (on account of) den Regen ' Then the teacher lets me softly down with the remark that whenever the word 'wegen' drops into a sentence, it always throws that subject into the Genitive case, regardless of consequences - and that therefore this bird stayed in the blacksmith shop wegen des Regens. Every noun has a gender, and there is no sense or system in the distribution; so the gender of each must be learned separately and by heart. There is no other way. To do this one has to have a memory like a memorandum book. In German a young lady has no sex, while a turnip has. Think what reverence that shows for the turnip, and what disrespect for the girl. See how it looks in print. I translate this from a conversation in one of the best of the German Sunday-school books: Gretchen: Wilhelm, where is the turnip? Wilhelm: She has gone to the kitchen. Gretchen: Where is the beautiful English maiden? Wilhelm: It has gone to the opera. The Germans have a kind of parenthesis, which they make by splitting a verb in two and putting half of it at the beginning of an exciting chapter and the other hauat the end of it. Can any one conceive of anything more confusing than that? These things are called 'separable verbs'. The German grammar is blistered all over with separable verbs; and the wider the two portions of one of them are spread apart, the better the author of the crime is pleased with his performance. A favourite one is reiste ab, which means departed. Here is an example which I culled from a novel and reduced to English. The trunks being now ready, he de- after kissing his mother and sisters, and once more pressing to his bosom his adored Gretchen, who, dressed in simple white muslin with a single tuberose in the ample folds of her rich brown hair, had tottered feebly down the stairs, still pale from the terror and excitement of the past evening, but longing to lay her poor aching head yet once again upon the breast of him whom she loved more dearly than life itself, parted. Some German words are so long that they have a perspective. Observe these examples: Generalstaatsverordnetenversammlungen Alterthumswissenschaften Kinderbewahrungsanstalten Unabhaengigkeitserklaerungen
Re: [meteorite-list] What are the top 5 most important meteoritesfromNWA?
I also would nominate ALH84001 as well as NWA998 which is almost identical to ALH84001. They both have contributed much to science. Last but by no means any lesser than the above is Monahans 1998 for the ultra thrill of it's microscopic H2O (water) contents. These, and the other two, NWA 482 and NWA 5000 would be the top 5 in science value. For beauty, I'd list almost all of the pallasites. Glorieta, Esquil, Brahin, and Brenham , and Seymchan come to mind quickly. Pete - Original Message - From: JASON PHILLIPS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What are the top 5 most important meteoritesfromNWA? Hello Greg and List, Yes, Mike and Jim did a fantastic job getting this wonderful meteorite to the collector's world, but I do remember some great work that you and Adam did with many of the scientist. I think I remember seeing pictures of you guys at NASA, if I remember correctly, doing presentations on this stone. That is what I meant by my comment in regards to you and Adam. Nothing was meant to be taken away from Mike and Jim. Take Care, Jason Rocks from Heaven www.rocksfromheaven.com - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JASON PHILLIPS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What are the top 5 most important meteoritesfromNWA? Hello Jason and List, Jason wrote: NWA 482 - The first NWA lunar that gave all of us a chance to own a piece of the moon (and Greg and Adam did an excellent job of letting this meteorite reach the scientists and the world). NWA 2999- Which probably created more questions than actually shed light, but they are great questions to be asked. These are just two off the top of my head. I am excited to see what others think are some of the greatest. First, I must correct the fact that Mike Farmer and Jim Strope brought NWA 482 to the meteorite world. Adam and I were very fortunate to have been the majority stake investors on their Moroccan expedition which produced this One-of-a-Kind lunar Crown Jewel and we still hold the 312-gram oriented main mass. Jason, I can Thank you for recognition for NWA 2999 however, the Angrite from the Sahara which started a lot of, Where are Angrites from? abstracts and articles. I have been extremely fortunate to have been the one source for all three of the Angrites emerging from NWA, and not to mention my Saharan friends who helped to bring these to us. NWA 4801 and NWA 4590 Tamassint are the freshest Angrites to have survived the ravages of earth's Mother Nature-effect in her attempt to 'terrestrialize' alien matter once it hits the earth's surface. If interested in Angrites, do not forget to pick up a copy of the current issue of Astronomy magazine (November 2008), a good un-biased look at whether Angrites are from Mercury or another body! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: JASON PHILLIPS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What are the top 5 most important meteoritesfrom NWA? Hello Matt and List, That is a great question and one that we are blessed to be able to ask thanks to the NWA rush that we have been so fortunate to be a part of. I would say: NWA 482- The first NWA lunar that gave all of us a chance to own a piece of the moon (and Greg and Adam did an excellent job of letting this meteorite reach the scientists and the world). NWA 2999- Which probably created more questions than actually shed light, but they are great questions to be asked. These are just two off the top of my head. I am excited to see what others think are some of the greatest. Take Care, Jason Rocks from Heaven www.rocksfromheaven.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 5:59 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] What are the top 5 most important meteorites from NWA? Hi all I am going to give a presentation on meteorites from NWA and am curious what you think (scientists and collectors), what the top 5 most important meteorites from NWA would be. Which ones have shed new light on our solar system? Thanks, Matt -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
[meteorite-list] A point of contention/question
On the one hand, there are rather stunning photos of a very cratered Mercury and on the other side of us a very pock-marked Mars. Both look like you couldn't even walk a hundred feet in any direction without stepping in another crater. 1 If they are so cratered from meteorites (was there an atmosphere?) that they are everywhere, Would not the earth look the same- excluding the drifting contental plates? I know there is a meteorite for every wide spot in the road in West Texas. (I'm trying to collect every one of them.) 2 It would seem to me that almost anywhere that you wanted to go, you could conceivably find a meteorite. 3 Is the movement of the plates what keeps the earth's landscape from looking like Mars or Mercury? 4 All the craters on earth are huge (the smallest that I know is Odessa at a mere 550 feet). Actually there are 5 craters, making it a rather complex system with the smallest at just over 22 feet, but it is a very young crater at ~50,000 years old about as old as is Canyon Diablo. This excludes Carancus as I'm not convinced it is a true crater. Is there any evidence of micro sized craters? Maybe something on the order of only 50 feet to maybe 100 feet across that is truly old? Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] October Sky and Telescope
To my rather inexperienced eye there was only one very glaringly large error in the whole feature and that was the fact that it wasn't near long enough. I reached the last page and frantically keep turning the pages in the vain hope that there was more of the feature lurking in the back of the book, but alas, there was no more. What I did read was excellent. The rest of the book , thou not meteorite related, was still informative. Maybe a later article, Ruben? Geoff? Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Article
If you are enamored with Mars, then you should try to find a copy of the National Geographic January 1977 issue. This is a 30 page article with knock-your-sox's off stunning photos and a well written text. I stumbled across this while thumbing thru a stack of old NG's. Then there is the bonus article at the end of the issue- Probing the Mystery of the Medicine Wheels by John A. Eddy, Ph. D. The photos are by Thomas E. Hooper. This is more for the astronomy minded members on the list, but still a very interesting piece of literature. Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Announcement
Just to let all know that I have reached a milestone in my meteorite collection. I now have 25 percent of all Texas meteorites. It took just under two years to do it. Pete IMCA 1722 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] CANCER FREE
Gary, Having gone thru a similar situation in Aug of 2000, I know the feeling of relief when the Doctor comes in and utters those four beautiful words. Your now cancer free!! Take care of yourself and have a quick recovery. Pete, IMCA 1733 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
