Re: [meteorite-list] Unknown NWA
Hi Anne, List, I think the third picture is the bottom of the same stone, so it looks like a perfect Eucrite to me. What a stone, congrats, Steve! Stefan Brandes - Original Message - From: Anne Black impact...@aol.com To: stelo...@yahoo.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 1:18 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Unknown NWA Hello Steve, The first 2 pictures (left to right) seem to show the front and back of one specimen, a nice one, the inside shot makes it look like Millbillillie. But the 3rd picture is odd. Is it the same stone? Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Steve Witt stelo...@yahoo.com To: MetList Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, Nov 22, 2013 4:49 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Unknown NWA Greetings List, In an effort to start some conversation on the MetList, I'd like to ask opinions on a specimen I recently acquired. I posted pics on Facebook and have already gotten several differing opinions. Please let me know what you think. Images at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevewitt/sets/72157637952852176/ Regards, Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: Membrane boxes go boom?
I´m affaid so. I just started to change/renew some of my older the membran boxes, thanks to Gary :) Can´t imagine what´s the reason for it, though... Any thoughts? Stefan - Original Message - From: tracy latimer daist...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:28 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Membrane boxes go boom? I am observing something weird with some of my older membrane boxes. The membrane is starting to degrade and go cloudy, and in at least one specimen (Imilac, bought at Tucson, I forget the year) the membrane has ruptured and the slice is rattling around loose in the box. Has anyone else had this happen to their specimens? Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5958 Polished Surface
wow!!! thanks for showing! Stefan - Original Message - From: Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:00 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 5958 Polished Surface Hello All, At the request of the new owner of the 3.454g specimen, I polished the very flat side for minimal material loss. Here is the image showing what the inside of this new Ungrouped carbonaceous looks like. http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA5958/nwa5958PolishedSurface1.jpg (Surface area measures 25mm x 18mm) Enjoy! Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com NaturesVault (eBay) IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] a ball of fire coming from the sky as the cause of the explosion
hm http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/79933/house-explosion-kills-1-injures-8 Stefan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Polandmet 10th anniversary
All the best and for more exceptional meteorites to come :) Thanks for your great work Marcin, and your fine specimen! Every time a special addition to my collection! congratulations, Stefan I couldn't agree more Bob. I've never received a badly prepared meteorite for Marcin and every purchase from him is great! Many of my favourite pieces have come from PolandMet so congrats on your 10th Anniversary Marcin and hope to see you for the 20th! Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: Bob King nightsk...@gmail.com To: Marcin Cimala mar...@meteoryt.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Polandmet 10th anniversary Marcin, I'm so glad you started selling meteorites. I'm still in awe of how nicely cut and beautifully polished your specimens are. Thanks for all the nice rocks over the years! Best wishes for 10 more - Bob On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Marcin Cimala mar...@meteoryt.net wrote: Hello Tooday is special day for me. 10 years ago, after speaking with my parents about my personal future, I decided to try selling meteorites and maybe become a dealer one day. All this years was very succesfull for me. I meet alot of meteorite friends, visit many meteorite places and whats most importand I bay and sell many many meteorites. But begining was difficult as I dont have much money for meteorites. But this was not the biggest problem at this time. Poland was not part of EU, so every box was checked by customs. PayPal for many years dont even have idea that there is such country like Poland. I use Western Unuion BidPay check that was very difficult to exchange for real money as noone in banks know what the hell is this. Many times I buy or sell meteorite just for money sended in registered mails without any insurance. This was funny past Right now I celebrating Polandmet 10th anniversary. Thank You all who buy meteorites from me. I hope I can do same job for next 10 years. I prepared some old stuff on my page :) My first Polandmet website from 2001/2002 http://www.polandmet.com/old_polandmet/index.htm 10 years of Polandmet - photos compilation http://www.polandmet.com/+10years.htm And ofcourse for the next 24h all purchases get 20% discount for everything ! Hey, where is my champagne ??? :) Have a nice monrning, day, evening, night ! -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE Magazine
I received mine last week here in Austria! All the best, Stefan - Original Message - From: Peter Marmet p.mar...@sunrise.ch To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE Magazine Mine arrived two days ago here in Switzerland! Wonderful read, especially the article about hourglass chondrules! Best, Peter Bern, Switzerland http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/ 2010/12/31 Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net: I received mine today as well, can't wait to read it! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault -Original Message- From: Bob King Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 10:52 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE Magazine Mine came today, too. It's a great issue. Can't wait to read about hourglass chondrules. There's a great photo of Barringer on horseback at Meteor Crater, a newbie-friendly article on meteorwrongs, a fascinating account about checking out a possible meteorite mounted high on a wall in mosque in Istanbul, a report on Gibeon and lots more. Yours will come soon! Bob On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 7:07 PM, David Pensenstadler dfpen...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Listees: I have just received an email from Hazel at METEORITE Magazine. She indicated that the November issue was sent in mid-December and believes that any delays might be due to increased Christmas mail. So, keep the faith. Dave __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Zaouia el Hajoui
Great work and dokumentation! Thanks for sharing! Congratulations! Stefan Graz/Austria - Original Message - From: Philippe Thomas thomasmeteori...@wanadoo.fr To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 10:10 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Zaouia el Hajoui Hello all, We are proud to announce the find of an exceptional oriented meteorite. Here are links for photos and information: http://www.meteoritica.com/zaouia%20el%20hajoui.htm http://www.meteoritica.com/hunting%20zaouia%20el%20hajoui.htm Enjoy! Philippe Lea METEORITICA www.meteoritica.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Almahata Sitta
here´s the sales link: http://www.haberer-meteorite.de/deutsch/1024dpi/Asteroid%202008%20tc3/verkauf.html Stefan Dave writes: If you don't read German, like me, we'll have to wait for an English page You don't have to ... just go to Verkauf - which means Sale Cheers, Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Limericks
there was a remarkable fall in Germany known by all Neuschwanstein so called fell in Bavaria, so told but Main Mass was found here in Austria after all :)) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Forty Thousand Meteor Origins Across the Sky
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ whooosh Stefan __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] List Members, what's your job ?
Hi there, I just turned 43 and I am Quality Inspection Manager here at Anton Paar Graz, Austria, the well known market leader for the world finest Density Meters and Viscometers : http://www.anton-paar.com/US/en/2 Stefan Brandes __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] new meteorite fall
Hi Mike, I´ll help you out with a new topic, cause you posted it off-topic you know, Now what´s up in Texas? Stefan Wow, new meteorite fall making worldwide news, this meteorite list ignores it. At least nothing changes Michael farmer Sent from my iPhone Michael __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] UPHEAVAL DOME: CONFIRMATION OF IMPACT ORIGIN
a newly discovered Crater in Utah: http://lpod.wikispaces.com/November+29%2C+2008 Stefan __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Unusual new lunar or hokum?
doesn´t this lunar have a name, with all this classification done??? Stefan the lunatic Hi Group! I ran across this one on eBay today : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=350119620351 Something about it doesn't ring true. There is a lot of quasi-scientific mumbo jumbo in the listing. Is this for real or some highly-misinformed individual? Regards, MikeG . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tieschitz Pronunciation?
I´d say without the 'k' 'teesh-ytz' sounds like : tea sheets i´d say ;) greetings from Austria, Stefan I am hoping someone on the list can tell me/us the correct pronunciation of the Czech meteorite Tieschitz. I am horrible with guessing these things, but I would guess 'teesh-kytze.' Thank you! Mike Bandli __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] new Fall in India
Hi Mike, any news on the new india fall near HOSUR? Im very interested in new falls, and I´m very sorry to read so little about them on this list... Any suggestions where to find information of new falls? many thanks, Stefan __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4883 Close-up Photos
Greg Hupe introduces: spiders in space ;) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4883/nwa4883mag1.jpg Stefan __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Scalecube Family
Hi Mike, they used 1 inch cubes at: 1 inch : http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/ap15-S71-44990.jpg 1 inch : http://pds.jpl.nasa.gov/planets/images/browse/earth/breccia.jpg but they used 1cm cubes also : 1cm : http://www.lpi.usra.edu/expmoon/Apollo11/A11_MP.SampleDoc2FS.gif 1cm : http://www.alaska.net/~meteor/Rock79135.jpg 1cm : http://pds.jpl.nasa.gov/planets/images/browse/earth/igneous.jpg 1cm : http://www.apolloexplorer.co.uk/photo/html/AS17/10076007.htm 1cm : http://www.apolloexplorer.co.uk/photo/html/AS17/10076008.htm 1cm : http://www.apolloexplorer.co.uk/photo/html/AS17/10076009.htm 1cm : http://www.apolloexplorer.co.uk/photo/html/AS17/10076010.htm Stefan Hello Svend, NASA used the 1 inch cube in the Lunar Receiving Lab for photographic reference of all Apollo lunar samples. At the time, it was referred to as a 'Scale Block.' I believe this is the only time the 1 inch cube was employed anywhere in the world. In the LRL, centimeters would be referenced on the specimen 'counter' only. Here is a photo of the 1 inch cube in the LRL circa 1970: http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/877141/LRL-scaleblock.jpg The 1 inch cube was fabricated in a machine shop next to the LRL prior to Apollo 11. Later, the vertical tick mark would be added. I believe they were designed by the gentlemen who designed all of the LRL tools (I have his name here somewhere). It is unclear at what point the CM cubes were first employed, but I believe it was around 1975-1977 when ANSMET began collecting meteorites from Antarctica. I believe the 1 inch LRL cubes are the first cubes ever produced. Thanks for the question! Cheers, Mike Bandli www.Astro-Artifacts.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 11:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Scalecube Family On November 7, 2007 Mike wrote: From left to right: Buhl 1cm Cube, Unknown 1cm Cube, NASA 'Scale Block' 1 inch Cube, Drake 1 inch Certified Cube, Drake 1cm Cube, Drake 1cm prototype. Dear Mike, when or where did NASA use a 1 inch cube? I am quite sure all their meteorite documentation use the metric sytem with 1 cm cubes. Just curious. Svend www.niger-meteorite-recon.de __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- www.niger-meteorite-recon.de __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Comet Holmes
Finaly I saw the comet tonight, thanks to clear skies here in southern Austria. I think that little animation I found on YouTube shows best what happend to the comet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJBHm2f-4zo Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bassikounou / Amgala 16.Oct.
Hello Jim, it's the 16th, as Svend Buhl and I found out (see the Niger Meteorite Website quoted below). Even the Bulletin's Bassi-TKW (29.56 kg) isn't up to date. So yesterday was Bassi's anniversary! And Amgalas 3rd !! What a day :) The new fall was a few days to early for a perfect hat-trick :) Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Giant Shatter Cone
also very interesting : http://epod.usra.edu/archive/epodviewer.php3?oid=375072 Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mysterious Circular Structure Near Chemult, Oregon
Interesting formation : http://epod.usra.edu/archive/epodviewer.php3?oid=382976 any ideas? Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] MSNBC article just out about Carnacas event andcontroversy.
Hi Mike, who has this seven kilos?? I got my little specimen from Moritz today, Thanks a lot, Moritz! Stefan We recovered over 700 grams of the meteorite, Farmer told me. I know of about 7 kilograms in other private hands. And according to the locals, they estimate that 20 kilograms have been thrown out of the crater. http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/10/10/406411.aspx Now this is a good article, some minor mistakes, but nothing that changes anything. Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Randall joke on ebay!
That´s even better ::)) http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsitem=180167029071 Stefan Ok...who is the one with the sense of humour after the carancas fragment on ebay...bidding here :-) Made me laugh anyway. http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsitem=180167268481 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Carancas meteorite
little video at the end of the story: http://spacefiles.blogspot.com/2007/10/carancas-meteorite-peru.html Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Your loss, know-it-alls!
It depends: shiny little ones, like in ureilites ;) or caoite, found in Ries crater, nano-tubes or nano-foam is welcome too :) just a few favorites of carbon unit Stefan Btw. Any carbon-lovers out there? I'm based on it. Does that count? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 1cm scale cube available
Hi Joe, you´r kidding, aren´t you? 25$ each How about those: http://cgi.ebay.com/10-Neodymium-Magnets-10mm-Cube-N48-Rare-Earth_W0QQitemZ160148882480 Stefan Hello everyone, I have been looking all over for a 1cm scale cube. I can't find any anywhere, only cheap plastic or rubber ones. I had some 1cm black Nickel coated Neodymium magnets made into 1cm scale cubes for meteorite photos. I have some available now if you are interested. If you are interested here is a link: http://illinoismeteorites.com/1cm_scale_cubes.htm Best Wishes, Joe Kerchner http://illinoismeteorites.com/yabb/YaBB.pl __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] CALI another new ET
-- Anyway: good post from one of Chladni´s heirs! Salute to Martin and his friend Stefan, they offer excellent meteorites at good prices, they are among the top of the cream - I well know what I am talking about from many personal experiences! As I also would salute e.g. Mike Farmer or other good names. Buyers listen and beware - the important thing is: always know your dealer! -- Well said. I can only emphasize this! And btw. thanks to the Heirs for a perfect NWA 4734 excepionel moon sample :) Always enthusiastic to hear of a new fall. So great thanks to the hunters for their efforts to provide us with the newest extraterrestrial stuff on earth! A warm welcome to every new ET ;) Greetings from Austria Stefan for the love of meteorites... __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Family Claims Meteorite Fell In TheirCourtyardinIndia
Some figures: The museum of the Indian Geological Survey opened in Calcutta in 1856, in 1867 the meteorite collection there already had 247 specimens. natural history collection since 1748 J Greetings from Austria Stefan The Natural History Museum of Vienna possesses one of the largest collections of meteorites in the world. With over 1 700 pieces, it lies in fourth place, behind the U.S. National Museum in Washington, D.C.; the National Institute of Polar Research in Tokyo, which has the largest collection of meteorites from Antarctica, and the NASA Johnson Space Center in Houston. Not only is the Viennese collection large, it also has the longest history of all meteorite collections and was and remains an important research centre. Meteorites were already collected in Vienna when they were still regarded as earthly phenomena (meteorite ~ aerolite ~ air stone). Of course, one could always find materials in the wonder cabinets of the rulers which had fallen to earth and which, depending on the circumstances, were regarded as lucky or unlucky talismans. Although some cases of matter falling to earth had been observed by hundreds of witnesses, the scientific authorities of the day regarded these as somewhat irregular earthly phenomena. During this period of total disregard for meteorites, two masses of iron fell to earth in Hraschina near Zagreb, Croatia. The fall occurred on 26 May 1751, only a few years after Emperor Franz I had acquired the Baillou natural history collection (1748). The Emperor ordered a report on the fall from the episcopal syndicate in Zagreb. The report was delivered to the court in July, together with the iron masses. The most important piece was incorporated in the Imperial Treasury, and from there, it soon came to be included in the Imperial Natural History Collection. The 39 kg iron mass from Hraschina became the founding piece of the Viennese meteorite collection. The Protocol of Bishop Klobuczezky and Curate-General Wolfgang Kukuljevic listed many eye-witness reports in connection with the incident and the accompanying fire ball. This Protocol later became an important document for Franz Güssmann and E.F.F. Chladni, who, on the basis of such reports as well as the fact that the newly fallen meteorites were covered with molten crust, could prove that these masses originated from space. This intellectual proof could have remained useless since, despite a string of occurrences, the scientific opinion of the times (led by the Academie Française) had not changed. Only after the stone rain of L'Aigle (26 April 1803) did the situation change. A member of the Academie, Jean Baptiste Biot, produced a report, and Messrs. Thenard and Vanquelin, along with the British chemist Howard, examined the stones. Meteorites have been acknowledged as extra-terrestrial objects ever since that time. Shortly after this time, the Viennese collection, taken care of by Abbé Stütz, comprised 7 meteorites: Hraschina (40 kg); Krasnojarsk (2.5 kg); Tabor (2.7 kg); Steinbach (1.1 kg); Eichstädt (126 g); L'Aigle (1.1 kg), and Mauerkirchen (429 g). Stütz's successor, Carl von Schreibers, was very interested in meteorites. He studied them intensively and inspired many of his contemporaries to investigate them. Among others, his friend Aloys von Widmanstätten, Director of the Imperial Factory Products Cabinet, began to study the extra-terrestrial iron. He described the so-called Widmanstätten figures, named after him. Schreibers and Widmanstätten also worked together with other renowned scientists of the time in order to discover more about meteorites. The chemist Martin Heinrich Klaproth made analyses in Berlin of samples from Vienna, which were the first analyses ever made of stone and iron meteorites. Jöns Jakob Berzelius and Friedrich Wöhler also co-operated on this project. Carl von Schreibers can be regarded as the founder of meteoric science and he construed the study of meteoric science in the same way as it is followed today, i.e., on the basis of interdisciplinary research. Today, all natural sciences interact closely in order to extract the cryptic messages from the solar nebula carried by the meteorites. The collection grew quickly, also under Schreibers' successors Paul Partsch, Moriz Hoernes and Gustav Tschermak. Tschermak was particularly keen and published many research papers, as well as a wonderful book summarising his observations. His successors Aristides Brezina and Friedrich Berwerth also continued studying meteorites. This intensive study resulted in a major growth of the collection: At the turn of the century, it comprised more than 600 different meteorites, many of which were main specimens. The outbreak of the first World War and the fall of the Austro-Hungarian Empire brought these research activities to an abrupt halt. Austria was fighting for survival and the curators were fighting to save their
Re: [meteorite-list] Catalog of the recovered Bassikounoumassesreleased
I also can only agree! Perfect work! Individual #53 33,2g is now owned be me ;) congrats, Stefan Alex wrote An astonishing, excellent piece of work! I agree. You guys did a great job tracking these meteorites. Thanks for your time and effort. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Moon rock?
How about this: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap060907.html Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] GAO 33,4g
Hi, I know there are some Gao friends out there, but for more than 4$/g wow... http://cgi.ebay.com/Gao-Guenie-meteorite-33-4-grams-Individual-and-NR_W0QQitemZ110118037415 Greetings from a very sunny Austria, Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] TLE 2007
Hi Tom, many thanks for this fabulous pictures! This eclipse was definitely one of the finest with the shooting stars streaking by. Best sight here in southern Austria with a perfectly clear sky! Greetings Stefan Hello :-) The complete total lunar eclipse is now online : http://www.sternhimmel-ueber-ulm.de/mofi07-1.htm http://www.sternhimmel-ueber-ulm.de/scratch/Mosaik.jpg Thomas New Millenium Observatory Der Sternhimmel über Ulm http://www.sternhimmel-ueber-ulm.de __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Art
http://www.museovirtuale.net/Opere%20300%20dpi%20cm%2010x10%20jpg/Cattelan%20la%20nona%20ora%201999.jpg Good Heavens! Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Taza Main Mass Pics
Nice pics of a nice stone, Jason. What´s the weight of this main mass? Regards Stefan - Original Message - From: Jason Utas To: Meteorite-list Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 9:51 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Taza Main Mass Pics Hello All, A few weeks ago, someone asked for pics of the main mass - here are a few that were sent to me several months before it ever turned up in Tucson (several people reported ownership, and there were digital photographs, solid photos, and scanned sketches of it going around). In any case, they're fairly nice, and will keep me from having to move the thing ;) http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f306/JUtas/Taza%20Main%20Mass/Largetazairona1.jpg http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f306/JUtas/Taza%20Main%20Mass/Largetazairona2.jpg http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f306/JUtas/Taza%20Main%20Mass/Largetazairona3.jpg http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f306/JUtas/Taza%20Main%20Mass/Largetazairona4.jpg http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f306/JUtas/Taza%20Main%20Mass/Largetazairona5.jpg http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f306/JUtas/Taza%20Main%20Mass/Largetazairona6.jpg http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f306/JUtas/Taza%20Main%20Mass/Largetazairona7.jpg http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f306/JUtas/Taza%20Main%20Mass/Largetazairona8.jpg http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f306/JUtas/Taza%20Main%20Mass/Largetazairona9.jpg http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f306/JUtas/Taza%20Main%20Mass/Largetazairona10.jpg Regards, Jason -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas and a very happy new year 2007 to all of you! All the best, Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day-December14, 2006
Hi Matthias, list, is some nights, when I´m home alone, when it´s really quiet, and not a single tone is heard, and the snow is damping the slightest noises from outside, I can really hear my Dronino rust ;)) All the best, Stefan Did anyone here ever l i s t e n to a nice iron or stone? I mean, not only under the saw? A wonderful oriented, lets say: Millbillillie individual, fusion crust black, laterit red, in the last rays of the evening sun, p u r r i n g ? All best, Matthias __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Geminid Meteor Shower
Hello watchers, Clear skies yesterday and today here in southern Austria. A few nice bolides, now and then.slow and white, as I can tell. catch a falling star, put it in your pocket.. Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] valuable Nantan
Quite a price for a little Nantan http://cgi.ebay.com/Sygun-Museum-Nantan-Iron-Meteorite_W0QQitemZ130052231871 Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels -gifts II
Alois von Widmanstätten * 12. 7. 1754 Graz , ? 10. 6. 1849 Vienna Greetings from Graz Stefan Hi Doug, so flagrant is my commercialism not. Yes, I do have a slice of Elbogen left for sale, but I guess, if you'd ask Dieter Heinlein, you would pay 10$ less per gram. For the spelling of uncle Alois I always find two variants: Widmanstätten (with a single n and the German letter for the diphthong, the a with the 2 dots above) or Beck-Widmannstetter. Which one was more in use? I don't know. We have to ask the list-members from Austria to look in the specific biographical lexika. There still exists several descendants today, they spell themselves Beckh-Widmannstetter. Ehm, Doug, the story with the font is different. It's the most famous and incredible meteorite legend in history. Be prepared! There was a prophecy about the Burggraf-Klumpen. It said, whenever it will be let down into the font of Loket castle, it will come up again. Well, so once it was let down in the font, and after a while, they tore him out gain. Spooky, isn't it Doug? I forgot where I read that story and also why the chunk was hidden at which opportunity. Whether it was in the Napoleonic wars, or whether Wallenstein wanted to found bullets out of it, whether some Hussites were hiding it... There were always wars, wars, wars...funny enough, people now ranting about the European Union always forget, in what for a privileged situation they're living. 60 years without greater wars. Buckleboo! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von MexicoDoug Gesendet: Freitag, 24. November 2006 22:32 An: Martin Altmann Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels -gifts II OK, Martin, Nice post, I'm convinced that, if I can ever possess a specimen of Elbogen, I won't have any choice than to acquire it from one of Chladni's authentic airs.:-) You mentioned our Widmannstaetten: Alois Beck Edler von Widmannstetter I was very curious about the spelling you used, an alternate from that which we are accustomed...Can you tell us Teutonically challenged volks a little about the reason for this difference? Ahhh, and those kind and ever-so-considerate Frenchmen. Why do you suppose they would have mocked so cruelly their Bohemian hosts by spitefully lifting up the unliftable Elbogen iron meteorite and tossing it into a well to languish there for decades? Was it simply with the arrogance to say, Non, nous'sommes non so greed, louky, devons-nous procéder à toss your rrrevered Cloompain to zz bottom of z pit where he can hhhrrust avayoui oui , ou la l, Kaput et Voilà La Boheme!!No wonder the Austrians taught those savage beastly French a lesson in humility and kicked them out on their derrières shortly afterward... for which the French rewarded them later by overrunning Munich. Well being the Francophile I am, and still astonished this could happen, I must say in their defense that the French Secret Order of the Guardians of Ensisheim has brought back great honor and civility upon their countrymen after that fateful moment of the aggression of Elbogen... Best wishes, Doug PS nice post Matthias, too! - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'MexicoDoug' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 2:42 PM Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels -gifts II Hola Doug, yah and the Grimm brothers weren't only collectors of tales, but titans of linguistics in writing the first modern comprehensive German dictionary. Btw. Widmannstetter used Elbogen for his direct printing of his famous Thopmson structures. Goethe celebrated his 75th birthday on the castle of Elbogen (Loket), I'm not sure, whether he saw the Klumpen still there. Anyway, when ha was young and visited the stone of Ensisheim in the church, he made pubertal fooling about the people being so superstitious. Again, if once Vassiliev won't be so busy anymore, he has to found a meteorite fair on Loket castle. Nice counterpart to Ensisheim. Huh, I think I'm a capital sinner, I don't think, that I would be able to lift a Klumpen of more than 2 hundredweights... At least in the stories (there exist another version of the Burggraf metamorphosis) there are some slight meteoritical appeals: Thunder, Sounds, light, a pit... Buckleboo! Martin PS: There must be another story from that Klumpen, that it was hidden in the font of the castle - perhaps during the Napoleonic wars? -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: MexicoDoug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Freitag, 24. November 2006 20:08 An: Martin Altmann Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels -gifts II Hi Martin, Thanks for the Buckleboo! It had become such a familiar part of the list, like an attention-getting favorite family member I started to miss it Now, whoever
[meteorite-list] Astronomy Picture of the Day
Nice pic of the day today! http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Leonids 2006 ???
Hello watchers, same here in southern Austria, cloud covered all night long, though Saturday was clear at daytime Maybe more luck next year! Stefan Hello Robert and List! It was very cloudy in the northern part of Germany (only some stars were visible). We could watch some shooting stars by looking through a hole in the clouds, but it was not the hit this year. Ingo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Robert Woolard Gesendet: Sonntag, 19. November 2006 07:25 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Leonids 2006 ??? Hello List, Hope some of you had a better show than we did. Perhaps you guys on the east coast?? Perfectly clear skies here in Arkansas, but very few meteors, and no nice fireballs. Pretty much like the prediction it seems. How was it for the rest of you? Best wishes, Robert Woolard Sponsored Link Compare mortgage rates for today. Get up to 5 free quotes. Www2.nextag.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Big Splash Theory Says Meteors Hit Regularly
Nice idea finding craters by just looking where the chevrons point to :) Does anybody know the crater just left to the south of Chile ? http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/11/13/science/1114WAVE_Lg.jpg Stefan - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 6:25 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Big Splash Theory Says Meteors Hit Regularly http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/14/science/14WAVE.html Ancient Crash, Epic Wave By SANDRA BLAKESLEE New York Times November 14, 2006 At the southern end of Madagascar lie four enormous wedge-shaped sediment deposits, called chevrons, that are composed of material from the ocean floor. Each covers twice the area of Manhattan with sediment as deep as the Chrysler Building is high. On close inspection, the chevron deposits contain deep ocean microfossils that are fused with a medley of metals typically formed by cosmic impacts. And all of them point in the same direction - toward the middle of the Indian Ocean where a newly discovered crater, 18 miles in diameter, lies 12,500 feet below the surface. The explanation is obvious to some scientists. A large asteroid or comet, the kind that could kill a quarter of the world's population, smashed into the Indian Ocean 4,800 years ago, producing a tsunami at least 600 feet high, about 13 times as big as the one that inundated Indonesia nearly two years ago. The wave carried the huge deposits of sediment to land. Most astronomers doubt that any large comets or asteroids have crashed into the Earth in the last 10,000 years. But the self-described band of misfits that make up the two-year-old Holocene Impact Working Group say that astronomers simply have not known how or where to look for evidence of such impacts along the world's shorelines and in the deep ocean. Scientists in the working group say the evidence for such impacts during the last 10,000 years, known as the Holocene epoch, is strong enough to overturn current estimates of how often the Earth suffers a violent impact on the order of a 10-megaton explosion. Instead of once in 500,000 to one million years, as astronomers now calculate, catastrophic impacts could happen every few thousand years. The researchers, who formed the working group after finding one another through an international conference, are based in the United States, Australia, Russia, France and Ireland. They are established experts in geology, geophysics, geomorphology, tsunamis, tree rings, soil science and archaeology, including the structural analysis of myth. Their efforts are just getting under way, but they will present some of their work at the American Geophysical Union meeting in December in San Francisco. This year the group started using Google Earth, a free source of satellite images, to search around the globe for chevrons, which they interpret as evidence of past giant tsunamis. Scores of such sites have turned up in Australia, Africa, Europe and the United States, including the Hudson River Valley and Long Island. When the chevrons all point in the same direction to open water, Dallas Abbott, an adjunct research scientist at Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory in Palisades, N.Y., uses a different satellite technology to look for oceanic craters. With increasing frequency, she finds them, including an especially large one dating back 4,800 years. So far, astronomers are skeptical but are willing to look at the evidence, said David Morrison, a leading authority on asteroids and comets at the NASA Ames Research Center in Mountain View, Calif. Surveys show that as many as 185 large asteroids or comets hit the Earth in the far distant past, although most of the craters are on land. No one has spent much time looking for craters in the deep ocean, Dr. Morrison said, assuming young ones don't exist and that old ones would be filled with sediment. Astronomers monitor every small space object with an orbit close to the Earth. We know what's out there, when they return, how close they come, Dr. Morrison said. Given their observations, there is no reason to think we have had major hits in the last 10,000 years, he continued, adding, But if Dallas is right and they find 10 such events, we'll have a real contradiction on our hands. Peter Bobrowski, a senior research scientist in natural hazards at the Geological Survey of Canada, said chevrons are fantastic features but do not prove that megatsunamis are real. There are other interpretations for how chevrons are formed, including erosion and glaciation. Dr. Bobrowski said. It is up to the working group to prove its claims, he said. William Ryan, a marine geologist at the Lamont Observatory, compared Dr. Abbott's work to that of other pioneering scientists who had to change the way their colleagues thought about a subject. Many of us think Dallas is really onto something, Dr. Ryan said. She is building a story just
Re: [meteorite-list] looking for a piece mb
I´m not sure this meteorite realy exists ;) http://cgi.ebay.com/Millbbilliiee-3-gram-individual_W0QQitemZ290049902155 If I have recognized it correctly the ID card is from Mike Farmer and should spell it the right way. But I know, it´s difficult to read it, to spell it and to type it correct ;) greetings from Graz, Austria home town of Arnold Schwarzenegger (spell this one correct... :) Stefan Maybe if you spelled it 'Millbillillie', you wouldn't hate it so much! Hi again list.I hate writing out the word millbbilliiee,so I shortend it to mb.I am looking for a complete 7 to 12 gram complete 100% crusted individual of mb for my collection.Any offers will be appreciated. Steve Arnold,Chicago,USA!! BIG Steve's Meteorites,1999!! Website://:stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Some clicks from other meteorites
Excellent Matteo !! What magnitude are they? Stefan Hello here some others photos take under microscope Assisi double condrula http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9607/assisitrhz1.jpg Moss troilite 2 mm nodule http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/5805/moss1trvw7.jpg Moss metal grain and probable olivine crystal http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/923/moss2trgu6.jpg Moss condrula http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/821/moss3trrf9.jpg Murchison typical matrix http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/553/murchisontrhg0.jpg NWA 3214 colored condrules and CAI's http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/1632/nwa3214trnx0.jpg NWA 4473 matrix http://img270.imageshack.us/img270/5146/nwa4473trrv8.jpg Siena condrules and matrix http://img270.imageshack.us/img270/6219/sienatrjp7.jpg http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/448/siena2tron1.jpg http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/5817/siena3trsz7.jpg Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Some clicks from other meteorites
sorry Matteo, what I ment was magnification of course optical magnification, sort of scale for the pictures. or maybe you can tell the side length of the picture in mm thanks Stefan hello ehmmm magnitude in what sense? Matteo --- Stefan Brandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Excellent Matteo !! What magnitude are they? Stefan Hello here some others photos take under microscope Assisi double condrula http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9607/assisitrhz1.jpg Moss troilite 2 mm nodule http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/5805/moss1trvw7.jpg Moss metal grain and probable olivine crystal http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/923/moss2trgu6.jpg Moss condrula http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/821/moss3trrf9.jpg Murchison typical matrix http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/553/murchisontrhg0.jpg NWA 3214 colored condrules and CAI's http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/1632/nwa3214trnx0.jpg NWA 4473 matrix http://img270.imageshack.us/img270/5146/nwa4473trrv8.jpg Siena condrules and matrix http://img270.imageshack.us/img270/6219/sienatrjp7.jpg http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/448/siena2tron1.jpg http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/5817/siena3trsz7.jpg Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Fw: [meteorite-list] Pluto for sale?????????
Here you are ;) http://cgi.ebay.com/1777-58-Acres-Of-Lunar-Property-Own-Land-On-The-Moon_W0QQitemZ290037448682Does this include Lunar-Mets origin from the property?Stefan Hi,You can buy land on the Moon. You can buy land on Mars. But thisis the first time I've seen an entire planet up for sale!Apparently the seller is not enterprising enough to parcel the planet up into lots like the Moon and Mars sellers and sellthe planet piecemeal. There's a lot more money to be made by subdividing! Pluto has 17,950,000 squarekilometers, almost twice the area of Europe or the US; it's well worth subdividing.The text of the auction doesn't mention Charon, but since it's shown in one of the pictures, I assume it's included in the sale.It's a bargain price! Sterling K. Webb __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto for sale?????????
Here you are ;) http://cgi.ebay.com/1777-58-Acres-Of-Lunar-Property-Own-Land-On-The-Moon_W0QQitemZ290037448682 Does this include Lunar-Mets origin from the property? Stefan Hi, You can buy land on the Moon. You can buy land on Mars. But this is the first time I've seen an entire planet up for sale! Apparently the seller is not enterprising enough to parcel the planet up into lots like the Moon and Mars sellers and sell the planet piecemeal. There's a lot more money to be made by subdividing! Pluto has 17,950,000 square kilometers, almost twice the area of Europe or the US; it's well worth subdividing. The text of the auction doesn't mention Charon, but since it's shown in one of the pictures, I assume it's included in the sale. It's a bargain price! Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: Stefan Brandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 3:38 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Pluto for sale? Hi list, is there somebody selling Pluto or did I miss something http://cgi.ebay.com/Dwarf-Planet-Pluto_W0QQitemZ120037050662 perplexed Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Pluto for sale?????????
Hi list, is there somebody selling Pluto or did I miss something http://cgi.ebay.com/Dwarf-Planet-Pluto_W0QQitemZ120037050662 perplexed Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] official fall since 2004
Hi list, is it correct that after Benguerir 22.11.2004 there was no official Fall since (and after) Moss? No fall in 2005 and only one in 2006 yet? Can it be? curiously Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] official fall since 2004
Thanks Mike, for this very interesting and detailed response. I will add the missing falls as unofficial to my falls-list. btw. is San Pedro Jacuaro (LL6) from 01.12.1968 a fall according to the MB90. It is NOT listet as one in the MB Database though. Stefan Hi Stefan Thanks to Jeff Grossman's DB it is easy to look up all the recent falls. You are correct that there are no official falls from 2005. My guess based on past history there will be 3-4 that will be added in the future. Here is a list of all the official and unofficial meteorites from 2004-present. Official list from 2004 Jan 4 Villabeto de la Pena Nov 8 Orlando Nov 22 Benguerir Unofficial list from 2004 all possible falls; June 12 Auckland New Zealand 1.3 kg stone http://tvnz.co.nz/view/news_national_story_skin/430438%3Fformat=html Oct 4 Berthoud Colorado 960 g stone http://imca.repetti.net/metinfo/metadventures/berthoud.html Oct 29 Kaprada India 1 kg stone http://www.spacerocksinc.com/March21.html Official list from 2005 NONE Unofficial list from 2005 6/25 Bhuka India 2.5 kg Iron http://www.iisc.ernet.in/currsci/sep102005/741.pdf Official list from 2006 7/14 Moss Unofficial list from 2006 7/31 Gujarat India approx 500 grams Stone http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1879050.cms http://www.gsi.gov.in/metgujfl.pdf 8/29 Kanvarpura India 6.8 kg iron http://www.hindu.com/2006/09/06/stories/2006090600281500.htm http://indianexpress.com/story/12032.html My guess is that I missed some. If you know of any let me know and I will add them. Curiously 4 of the 6 unofficial meteorites are from India. Even more strange both Kanvarpura and Bhuka are from the state of Rajasthan. Also both Kaprada, Gujarat are from the state of Gujarat which borders Rajasthan! Gujarat is about the size of South Dakota slightly smaller than Belarus though a much denser population (50.6 million vs 0.776 million 10.3 million). Rajasthan is slightly larger than New Mexico and Finland with a much larger population (56.5 million vs 1.93 million 5.1 million). Interestingly only two falls have been recorded in the US and Europe in that same time period. Both with much larger areas and populations. Guess I better move to India if I want to recover a fresh fall. Mike -- Mike Jensen Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com -- Original message -- From: Stefan Brandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi list, is it correct that after Benguerir 22.11.2004 there was no official Fall since (and after) Moss? No fall in 2005 and only one in 2006 yet? Can it be? curiously Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Pictures of meteorite-wrong
It looks like a minor planet to me. Very minor of course ;) I miss Pluto. Stefan Any ideas? Dave __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Unbelievably late package
One year seven and a half months for the package to cross the US. Who can beat that? I got one of my packages from a well known US-dealer ;) after three months, with inside notice: This package was opened by the AUSTRALIAN customs. Around the world and still not unbelievably late. They do have fast carrier pigeons there ;) Greetings from AUSTRIA Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] moss forsale or trade
Hi Steve, I´m sorry to hear that you have to sell your Moss piece. I will receive mine in a couple of days, I hope and I´m very exited and proud to own even only a small piece of this really unique and very fresh fall. (thanks to Mirko) Greatings from another Moss owner, Stefan Hi list.I have decided to sell or trade my moss piece.You can view it on my website if interested.$525 value1 steve arnold,chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com Illinois meteorites,since 1999! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Moss-stone
Hi Listees, another pic of the 676g Moss stone: http://pub.tv2.no/nettavisen/innenriks/article705914.ece Can´t get the story so... Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Discovery of a huge impact site in East Jordan
Maybe it´s this formation at: 31°02'56,7''N, 36°48'23,4''E (Google Earth) Just a guess Stefan Amman, Aug. 5 (Petra)--Professor Dr. Elias Salameh / University of Jordan has announced the discovery of a huge impact site in East Jordan near Jabal Waqf es Swwan. The discovery was made by Professor Dr. Elias Salameh, Professor Dr. Werner Schneider, and Professor Dr. Hani Khoury. The diameter of the outer ring of the impact site measures around 5.5 km , whereas that the inner ring is 2.7 km, and the diameter of the crater is more than 100 m indicating an impactor diameter of about 100 m. This seems to be the area mentioned in the article-- maybe someone can Google Earth up the crater (but resolution isn't the greatest in that area) http://www.earthsearch.net/intSearch/jabal-waqf-es-suwan-JO.php?showMap=-974884 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Chladni's Heirs
Congrat´s from Austria ! Chladni´s Heirs short : SAM for S tefan, A ndi, M artin to bundle their strengths to serve the collectors that´s a motto! All the best for the german task force ;) Stefan Collectors, enthusiasts, list! The searching delegation of Chladni's Heirs* just returned from a 6-days-trip in Norway on the hunt for the new fall. We set up a little website with an illustrated report: http://www.meteoriten.com/norway.html *Chladni's Heirs was planned to be officially launched after a summer break, now with this actual event you will already got to know our brand's name. Chladni's Heirs is an amalgamation of your (hopefully soon) preferred meteorite dealers: Stefan Ralew Andreas Gren Martin Altmann founded for the purpose to bundle their strengths to serve the collectors even better than before, to assist them in all concerns more accurate and faster and to offer them the enlarged and full palette of meteorites: irons, rare and aesthetic common desert types, historic finds and falls at best quality and competitive prices. Although the official launch will be dated later, we already accept congratulations :-) Stefan Ralew Andi Gren Martin Altmann Chladni's Heirs will take part in the Tucson show 2007 And now we sing: There's a mineral shop down our street, It's run by a German, And they sells good things to collect, But you should hear him speak, When you ask him anything, Never answers No, He just yesses you to death, And as he takes your dough he tells you: Refrain: Yes! We have no martians, We have no martians today. We've chondrites, and onions, rumurutis and eucrites And all kind of stones, and say, We have an old fashioned Gibeon Moroccan potato, But yes! We have no martians, We have no martians today! Things were going well with him, He wrote home to say, Send me Patrick and Peter and Jim, I need them right away, When he got them in the shop, There was fun, you bet, 'Cause when you asked them anything, They answered in quartet: Oh, And now all together: Yes! We have no martians, We have no martians today. We've chondrites, and onions, rumurutis and eucrites And all kind of stones, and say, We have an old fashioned Gibeon Moroccan potato, But yes! We have no martians, We have no martians today! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) meteorite sale
Hi List, I was the other bidder on the 188 gram fusion crusted stone meteorite up to $90, I´m sorry Steve only bought it for re-sale. I should have known Stefan As luck would have it, Steve and I were both bidders on the 13 gram El Arouss. He paid $75 for it and is currently selling it for $75.00. The NWA 2776 he paid $129.50 and is selling for $200.00. The 188 gram fusion crusted stone meteorite he is selling for $110.00, he paid $91.00. Wait a minute... I thinbk I hear Steve in Chicago... The prices are alot less than I paid for them. Right on, Steve. Buyers beware of this seller. Dave - Original Message - From: Dave Carothers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Steve Arnold, Chicago!! [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) meteorite sale Steve, You are so full of it, I can't believe you have the nerve to post this. I remember the 1.3 Adrian Texas going to you for $15.00 last week some time. You're now flogging it on your website for $30.00. Tell me and everyone else here, how does that constitute The prices are alot less than I paid for them. How many others of the 11 posted are lies too. You're nothing but a big fraud. Dave - Original Message - From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 2:34 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] (AD) meteorite sale Hello list.I am having a meteorite sale.I have listed 11 items for now.You can view them on my website.The prices are alot less than I paid for them.I will add more later after these sell.Also payment must be CASH,PERSONAL CHECK,MONEY ORDER,or CASHIERS CHECK.NO PAYPAL!!I will also pay all shipping in where in the world.There are a few main masses,a few witness falls and more to appeal to everyone.Please email off list as to what you want. steve arnold,chicago,usa!! Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com pages.ebay.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: METEOR CONTEMPORARY POETRY PROJECT
I´m looking out for litte stones like I´m to be that Indi Jones. Not finding any real ET I´m searching hard to convince me, they´r out there somewere, neat and fine this little stones from Neuschwanstein. Greatings from Austria the home of the Main Mass :) Stefan - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 'Robert Verish' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 8:27 PM Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] Fwd: METEOR CONTEMPORARY POETRY PROJECT Harrumph: When Phaeton Sleeps What do I care for falling stars, For meteors, for Moon, for Mars? My name in Mr Buckleboo and I'm a real a... Martin Edmund Altmann -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Robert Verish Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Juni 2006 10:46 An: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral Betreff: [meteorite-list] Fwd: METEOR CONTEMPORARY POETRY PROJECT Forward Message - Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 00:57:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Valentin Grigore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: METEOR CONTEMPORARY POETRY PROJECT (7) METEOR CONTEMPORARY POETRY PROJECT (7) - Andrei Dorian Gheorghe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Alastair McBeath ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Valentin Grigore ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - In this issue: I. FALLEN STAR II. METEOR DIALOGUES III. METEOR POEMS IV. HUMOROUS METEOR TRIALOGUE V. PERSEIDS - ROMANIAN MEMORIES VI. MAGELLANIC CLOUDS AND METEORS Previous issues: -Leonid 2002 Poetry #8211; prologue, December 2002 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/imo-news/message/1088 -MCPP (1), June 2003 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/imo-news/message/1177 -MCPP (2), December 2003 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/imo-news/message/1321 -MCPP (3), June 2004 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/imo-news/message/1392 -The Song of the IMC #8211; a September 2004 supplement by Jeremie Vaubaillon http://groups.yahoo.com/group/imo-news/message/1455 -MCPP (4), December 2004 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/imo-news/message/1507 -MCPP (5), June 2005 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/imo-news/message/1573 -MCPP (6), December 2005 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/imo-news/message/1649 The next issue, for which we wait for submissions, will appear at the winter solstice 2006. - Coordinators - I wish all of you many moments of appreciation of the beauty of the world, not in the least of the night sky and of meteors! - Cis Verbeeck (Belgium) - I. FALLEN STAR COSMIC STONES - by Arnold Leinweber (1920-2006, Romania) - We know that the meteoroids gravitating without station could be virtual meteors. We also know that Terra travelling on its own orbit has a cloth - the protecting atmosphere. In contact with the atmosphere, they begin to disintegrate seeming to be falling stars. If they do not totally burn in the atmosphere, they drop on Terra - a strange blend becoming museum pieces. The End. II. METEOR DIALOGUES FALLING STARS - by Iulian Olaru (Romania) and Dan Mitrut (Romania) - Iulian Olaru: Last night, a +2 magnitude meteor, coming from the zenith to the left of Gemini, made me think of the folk belief that someone dies when a star falls#8230; Dan Mitrut: Another folk belief says that meteors are human souls climbing the sky at the person's birth. These beliefs are not contradictory, but complementary, because the people tried to transcend cosmic matter, to give soul to the sky and to give sense to the phenomena. That was the road from metaphysics to spirituality#8230; METEORIC PHILOSOPHY OF THE EPHEMERIDES - by Mohamad Magdy (Egypt) and Andrei Dorian Gheorghe (Romania) - Mohamad Magdy: I could make astronomical ephemerides for stars, comets, asteroids and all celestial phenomena#8230; All I need is a work team to share#8230; for goodness! Andrei Dorian Gheorghe: Unfortunately, the meteors are so ephemeral#8230; ANOTHER YEAR - by John Francis Haines (U.K.) and Andrei Dorian Gheorghe (Romania) - John Francis Haines: Very cold here, out mostly dry - in fact, it's been a very dry winter altogether. The garden's stirring into life, which means that Spring is just around the corner, then the endless round of lawn-mowing, hedge-clipping, will begin again for another year. Andrei Dorian Gheorghe: As well as the meteor observational campaigns, in order to take care of the celestial garden. III. METEOR POEMS SPHERICAL GEOMETRY - by Diana Maria Ogescu (Romania) - The Sky is an immense cupola. Heterogeneous seeds bear fruit, as in a solarium. From seeds with people I came up too. Abyssal germens gave birth to the planets with orbits and fireball heads. METEOR - by Boris Marian (Romania) - Once, in the deep night, I heard a meteor passing. I'll never forget that late moment of rest, I seemed like a dead person alive, overwhelmed with fear, for that meteor didn't extinguish itself, but it said, with the voice of a raven#8230; on my word, it was a meteor saying to me just: Nevermore. LYRIDS - by Michaela Al. Orescu (Romania) - rumours of light
[meteorite-list] Modern Meteor Science. An Interdisciplinary View
Hi List, what´s your thoughts about this book? http://www.springer.com/dal/home?SGWID=1-102-22-107940791-0changeHeader=true I want to add it to my library, should I ? Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Big Bang in Antarctica - Killer Crater Found UnderIce
Hi Ron, list, are they sure yet? http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1979JGR84.5681B Just curious Stefan - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 6:37 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Big Bang in Antarctica - Killer Crater Found UnderIce http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/erthboom.htm BIG BANG IN ANTARCTICA -- KILLER CRATER FOUND UNDER ICE Ohio State Research News June 1, 2006 Ancient mega-catastrophe paved way for the dinosaurs, spawned Australian continent COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Planetary scientists have found evidence of a meteor impact much larger and earlier than the one that killed the dinosaurs -- an impact that they believe caused the biggest mass extinction in Earth's history. The 300-mile-wide crater lies hidden more than a mile beneath the East Antarctic Ice Sheet. And the gravity measurements that reveal its existence suggest that it could date back about 250 million years -- the time of the Permian-Triassic extinction, when almost all animal life on Earth died out. Its size and location -- in the Wilkes Land region of East Antarctica, south of Australia -- also suggest that it could have begun the breakup of the Gondwana supercontinent by creating the tectonic rift that pushed Australia northward. Scientists believe that the Permian-Triassic extinction paved the way for the dinosaurs to rise to prominence. The Wilkes Land crater is more than twice the size of the Chicxulub crater in the Yucatan peninsula, which marks the impact that may have ultimately killed the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. The Chicxulub meteor is thought to have been 6 miles wide, while the Wilkes Land meteor could have been up to 30 miles wide -- four or five times wider. This Wilkes Land impact is much bigger than the impact that killed the dinosaurs, and probably would have caused catastrophic damage at the time, said Ralph von Frese, a professor of geological sciences at Ohio State University. He and Laramie Potts, a postdoctoral researcher in geological sciences, led the team that discovered the crater. They collaborated with other Ohio State and NASA scientists, as well as international partners from Russia and Korea. They reported their preliminary results in a recent poster session at the American Geophysical Union Joint Assembly meeting in Baltimore. The scientists used gravity fluctuations measured by NASA's GRACE satellites to peer beneath Antarctica's icy surface, and found a 200-mile-wide plug of mantle material -- a mass concentration, or mascon in geological parlance -- that had risen up into the Earth's crust. Mascons are the planetary equivalent of a bump on the head. They form where large objects slam into a planet's surface. Upon impact, the denser mantle layer bounces up into the overlying crust, which holds it in place beneath the crater. When the scientists overlaid their gravity image with airborne radar images of the ground beneath the ice, they found the mascon perfectly centered inside a circular ridge some 300 miles wide -- a crater easily large enough to hold the state of Ohio. Taken alone, the ridge structure wouldn't prove anything. But to von Frese, the addition of the mascon means impact. Years of studying similar impacts on the moon have honed his ability to find them. If I saw this same mascon signal on the moon, I'd expect to see a crater around it, he said. And when we looked at the ice-probing airborne radar, there it was. There are at least 20 impact craters this size or larger on the moon, so it is not surprising to find one here, he continued. The active geology of the Earth likely scrubbed its surface clean of many more. He and Potts admitted that such signals are open to interpretation. Even with radar and gravity measurements, scientists are only just beginning to understand what's happening inside the planet. Still, von Frese said that the circumstances of the radar and mascon signals support their interpretation. We compared two completely different data sets taken under different conditions, and they matched up, he said. To estimate when the impact took place, the scientists took a clue from the fact that the mascon is still visible. On the moon, you can look at craters, and the mascons are still there, von Frese said. But on Earth, it's unusual to find mascons, because the planet is geologically active. The interior eventually recovers and the mascon goes away. He cited the very large and much older Vredefort crater in South Africa that must have once had a mascon, but no evidence of it can be seen now. Based on what we know about the geologic history of the region, this Wilkes Land mascon formed recently by geologic standards -- probably about 250 million years ago, he said. In another half a billion years, the Wilkes Land mascon will probably disappear, too. Approximately 100 million years ago, Australia split from the ancient Gondwana
[meteorite-list] Re: Iimpact Crater -- Nicaragua, Stefan Brandes
Hi Sterling, Leo, List, I actualy read Leo´s letter in Sterne und Weltraum in May 2006 and was just curious if anybody on the list knew of it. I have never heard of it before and just wanted to know more about this possible crater. I´m sorry if there was any misunderstanding! Greetings from Austria Stefan - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Leo Kowald [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stefan Brandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 10:01 PM Subject: Iimpact Crater -- Nicaragua, Stefan Brandes Hi, List, I received the following email concerning the possible impact crater in Nicaragua that Stefan Brandes posted to The List. He seems to be a bit exorcised about Stefan's finding it as he has a website discussing its possible impact origin; I can't read Deutsche but it looks impressive, with lots of views from Google Earth. He has written about it in Wikipedia, etc. He seems that he may feel that Stepfan claims to have discovered it, but the context of Stefan's original posting is quite otherwise: Has anybody heard about an impact crater in Nicaragua at coordinates 13°21' N / 85° 57' W It´s about 12km in diameter and the town of Las Praderas lies directly in the center. It´s very good to see in Google Earth. It sounds to me as if Stefan has heard of it, and is asking if anybody on The List has more information about it, that's all. Although some of those who responded to his posting may have assumed that Stefan found it, Stefan does not say so. As Mr. Kowald requests, I forward his email to Stefan and as I have only the same email address for him as Kowald does, I am posting Kowald's email to The List, hoping I am not encouraging an unnecessary quarrel. Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: Kowald, Leo (SBI Ruhr) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 9:20 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: possible impact crater -- Nicaragua, Chad, Hello Mr. Webb, I have already fount the crater of Pantasma (around Las Praderas) in January 2006 and have published by observations on http://www.pantasma.com and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/pantasma . I had also written a Letter to the german journal Sterne und Weltraum, which was published in May 2006. I believe that Mr. Brandes had read this Letter. I wrote a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but got no answer yet. If you receive this message, could you please forward it to Stefan Brandes? Thanks and best regards Leo Kowald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: AW: [meteorite-list] insomnia can cause clouding of consciousness
Right Ingo, Martin, we´re in Met-heaven today. Let´s see how long it lasts. And I´m afraid we´ll all see it, sooner than assumed. still a collector, Stefan Well spoken, Martin! We all (collectors, dealers and scientists) should be happy to have the possibility to get the rar material! Ingo --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: AW: [meteorite-list] insomnia can cause clouding of consciousness Datum: Tue, 9 May 2006 13:43:42 +0200 Dear list, we shouldn't loose in this discussions a more general sight. Dealers moan about the radical drop in prices, the difficulties to get the stuff classified, collectors bewail the lack of accurate data for their material, both groups permanently are afraid to experience a financial loss, scientists complain about a criminal plundering and feel to classify an ordinary chondrite is an emetic job; collectors and scientists accuse the dealers of being driven solely by rampant mammonism; collectors blame scientists and dealers to destroy fine specimens by cutting, dealers and collectors object to scientists to have an insufficient description system and no interest in bringing paired stuff together... If you read the list, then you inevitably get to the point, that the Sahara-boom must have been a downright terrible calamity!!! Well, I really don't know anymore, whether I have to make clear, that the short period of the desert rush, was and will be for all groups an incredible and, sadly, an irrecoverable enormous MEGA-TERA-PARA-BONANZA in all fields (hunting, collecting, sience, monetary aspects). Bernd, Joern, Dieter, Blaine, Alex - please you veterans help me to enlighten all those groups, that nowadays we are living in a meteoritical paradise !!! Tell them, how it was in the years before the desert rush. Tell them, how few different meteorites one could permanently acquire at all. Tell them, what an overwhelming sensation it was, to find exhibited on a dealers table a piece of a HOW or URE, which was larger sized than a fingernail! Tell them, what for a deep satisfaction it was, to get a pinhead sized bogey of something so exotic lice an ACAP or even a Moon in one's collection. Tell them, how catastrophically ruinous your fervor was, what efforts were to undertake to get a Brahin or a Sikhote into the colln. Good heavens folks, those weren't mythical ages aeons ago, that happened still 6-10 years ago! You Morocco-crusaders, tell them, how short those Sahara-boom lasted, tell them about the culmination 3 years ago, tell them how rapidly it is going to an end since. Scientists, tell them of those days, when it was an exiting event to get an eucrite on the table, tell them how appetently you were buying and trading the first desert finds! I really can't grok the permanent discussions here. What do we all want more On the one hand the permanent whining, that market is in ruin, on the other hand the whining about exaggerated prices, are you all blind? Collectors, the prices of today for desert material are 10-50 times LOWER than only a few years ago. What does it matter at this level, whether a DIO or a R has 200grams tkw or with its possible pairings 5kgs??? What shall those grieved faces, if you have bought a cumul EUC at 6$/g and some months later for a short period it is going for 2.5$/g ??? Do you seriously think, that in the very next few years prices will stay so low and that each type will still be disposable at will?? Dealers, what shall the anxiety that there is almost no profit to make at present times with desert and that you had losses with material bought a while ago? Sell meanwhile classical locations, they are stable and there you can earn money. And with desert: Don't you see, how the first type already tripled in price on ebay? Don't you see, that the supply from desert breaks down? Don't you see your collegues haply buying each brown boring stone they can get down there, for later folding their feet on the table in front of the fireplace in their villas? (Argh any wealthy sponsor out there, for whom we could organize a mighty additional old age pension, as long as it is still possible?) And what about those plaints about the missing data for NWAs? The stuff is incredible dirt cheap and everyone knows, that there's the rub, in the way, they were collected, whereon nobody had any influence. Strewnfield data simply can't be retrieved anymore. Whether the pairings will be set together again, we will see much later, I personally guess, as it is already the case, at least the most rare types will be compared. If you can't bear to have such orphans in your collection, just don't acquire NWAs, take classical locations or Oman-meteorites (as long as it's still possible), who do have all data, but are paid like NWAs at present. Or buy from real Sahara-hunters, who record the data of their true finds, like e.g. Franco or the Berouds.
Re: [meteorite-list] New price of hunting meteorites!
Hunting Meteorites in Europe: regular unleaded 1.32 EUR/LITRE diesel 1.13 EUR/LITRE premium 1.34 EUR/LITRE 1 US gallon = 3.785 liters 1 USD = 0.794 EUR real cost : driving into the mountains and not finding any.(e.g. Neuschwanstein) that´s the real thing Stefan Dear List; Here's the new price of hunting meteorites in SW Wyoming. regular unleaded $2.41 diesel 2.51 premium 2.61 real cost: driving for ever and not finding any. Best, Dave F. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] meteorite-list] possible impact crater
Hi list, has anybody heard about an impact crater in Nicaragua at coordinates : 13°21' N / 85° 57' W It´s about 12km in diameter and the town of Las Praderas lies directly in the center. It´s very good to see in Google Earth. As far as I know it´s definitely no volcano. Any ideas? Thanks Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - New Martian Meteorite for sale
Hi Matteo, again the question of how could you be so sure it´a martian? It says (http://meteoriticalsociety.org/bulletin/prov-names.html) : Prov. Name Field name Place purchasedDate purchased Mass (g) Pieces Description Info CF#136 NWA 129Erfoud 9/17/2000 408 1 Chondrite, complete stone CF3 Stefan - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:42 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - New Martian Meteorite for sale Hello I have finaly cut after 2 weeks my little martian meteorite, many slices its go for the analysis and now I have only 6 pieces available to the all world. This is the info: gr.1.65 18x15x3 mm slice gr.1.35 14x18x2 mm slice on hold gr.0.8 13x9x5 mm end piece gr.0.6 16x13x1-2 mm slice gr.0.45 17x11x1 mm slice on ebay gr.0.25 15x11x1 mm slice price its $1000/gr. This is the informations: NWA 129 - not official number,in arrive - Found 2006, Erfoud, Morocco. Martian. Total mass 16.55 grams. In analysis in Prato ( Italy ). Photos available on request. Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Messenger with Voice: chiama da PC a telefono a tariffe esclusive http://it.messenger.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT Mars
Hi List, little OT but on the other hand if you think of the moons http://www.google.com/mars/ have fun Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The Origin of Chondrules and Chondrites
Hi list, I´m considering to buy: The Origin of Chondrules and Chondrites by Derek Sears, Cambridge University Press Cambridge 2004 ISBN 0-521-83603-4 any recommendation? just curious Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] catch a comet
perfect sample, thanks to stardust :) http://www.astrobio.net/news/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=1841mode=threadorder=0thold=0 Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The most beautifullfreshandoriontedpallasiteever seen
I have here a simple diagram of orientation process. It was from one book. http://www.meteoryt.net/met_orientowane/index.htm a little translation would help Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The most beautiful..............
Thanks Carsten, found it, and the beautiful oriented Cabin Creek in Vienna at page 53 :)) Stefan Hi, this diagram also can be found in Norton's encyclopedia, (Page 52) in english language. Also a description of oriented meteorites is at this page. Greetings, Carsten __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Harvey Awards - New Catagory
a big YESS Stefan Greg Hupe wrote: Dear List Members, A month or two ago I posted to the list that I felt that Steve Arnold - IMB and Phil Mani should be nominated for a Harvey Award for their Huge Brenham Main Mass discovery and also Geoff Notkin for his tireless work on behalf of the Hurricane Katrina Fund Raiser among other too-numerous to list meteorite-related activities. I know that Geoff and Steve originally set up the Harvey Awards where they could not nominate themselves for an award. I would like all list members to join me here on the list to nominate these fine gentleman for a Harvey Award an encourage them to make a new category where they could receive an award if enough of us voted YES to this. Maybe they could create a People's Choice award or something along these lines. Everyone in favor, send the list a resounding YES and lets acknowledge their contributions and achievements in public. Consider this my YES vote... Best regards, Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA 3163 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Main Mass of Fall of Find
No way, Main Mass is the biggest piece of a Fall or Find. Every new classification (-number) has its so called Main Mass. When cut, the slices are FROM the Main Mass, but the MM itself will get lost. No more MM when cut, because MM referes to the Find or Fall, not to hundreds of slices. just a thought Stefan For me the main mass its the biggest piece survive after cutting etc... Matteo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] a new Quiz - part 2
Hi, I think Quiz 05 pic ist terrestrial, Quiz 06 pic is ET. Have to see the slices in person to be more precise, Christian ;) Stefan Hi all, so here's part 2 of the new Quiz which one is it ? http://www.austromet.com/CollnPics/Quiz_06.jpg compare it with the pic of the former email Solution for pics Quiz_05 and Quiz_06 follow soon. Are they meteoritic, are they terrestrial ? Who knows.. Cheers, Christian I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc website: www.austromet.com Ing. Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Dronino Preservation
Just watching the slow disintegration of my little 63g Dronino individual.. Not the prettiest way of loseing weight. Any chance of preserving it from total crumbleation? Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] a new Quiz
a very special new austrian eucrite, called angerite ;) Stefan Hi all, some list members asked me to do another Quiz like the New Year Quiz I've done some days ago. OK, so it' s time for another little Quiz which one is it ? http://www.austromet.com/CollnPics/Quiz_05.jpg Cheers, Christian I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc website: www.austromet.com Ing. Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Video of Steve Arnold's dig and new find
Hi, any idea where to get the video for download? Stefan Is anyone able to download this video? I can´t Ingo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Scales
Hi Gary, try this: http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/en/meteorite-scalecube.htm I have one of those, they´re perfect! Stefan What do you use for scales? What do you like about your scales? What do you dislike? are they available online? How much did you pay? Enough questions?? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rock in your Pocket?
Hi, I made an pendant out of the first piece of my collection myself, a 15g Canyon Diablo and I´m wearing it as an extraterrestrial lucky charm on a necklace. Stefan Do you carry a meteorite in your pocket regularly? If yes, what is your favorite piece to carry? Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rock in your Pocket?
Hi, I made an pendant out of the first piece of my collection myself, a 15g Canyon Diablo and I´m wearing it as an extraterrestrial lucky charm on a necklace. Stefan Do you carry a meteorite in your pocket regularly? If yes, what is your favorite piece to carry? Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chiemgau Impact on TV
Thanks Ingo for the info! I was there myself last year at Grabenstätt and at Tüttensee Wonder if there is any news of the words largest strawnfield! Stefan Hi List! This could be intersting for german list members: Today at 19.30 (7.30 p.m.) will be a Terra X-report about the controversial Chiemgau Impact on ZDF! Ingo -- Lust, ein paar Euro nebenbei zu verdienen? Ohne Kosten, ohne Risiko! Satte Provisionen für GMX Partner: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/partner __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Year Quiz - I want more answers
Olivine crystals in a dark matrix :) just a thought... Stefan Hi all, I only got 9 answers, that's not enough. Everybody sleeping on the list ? so once again : what is it ? http://www.austromet.com/CollnPics/Quiz01.jpg http://www.austromet.com/CollnPics/Quiz02.jpg http://www.austromet.com/CollnPics/Quiz03.jpg http://www.austromet.com/CollnPics/Quiz04.jpg Cheers, Christian I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc website: www.austromet.com Ing. Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites without specimen cards
Steve, in November I bought four slices from you, three WITHOUT any specimen card only one with a reference card from BA-Meteorites. I personally think it would be fine to know the history of a piece, if it´s still an original slice, or if it had been crushed to pieces by someone, selling cracks without reference just a thought Stefan Hi and good afternoon list.Something that really pisses me off is when you buy a meteorite on ebay,from either prominent meteorite people or people who are not so reliable.I just picked up a 40 slice of julesburg,colorado with a huss # on it and it came WITHOUT a specimen card.I admit,I have sold on ebay without specimen cards,I do not like it,but I have nothing to send if I have not gotten a card from someone who sends the piece to me.Then I have to write out on an index card the item name.It would be nice if we all could send cards with our pieces.Any thoughts from anyone else who has had this problem? steve arnold, chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Yahoo! DSL - Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RE: what country is the hardest to getmeteoritesfrom?
Try to get an Austrian Meteorite ! That's a challenge ! Cheers, Christian I´m afraid so Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] meteorites in commercials
Hi list, nice commercial of the new PEBL mobile from Motorola. The link to download the spot: (not the best quality, but worth seeing it) http://offline.hbpl.co.uk//BrandRepublic/creative/xtreme/movies/Motorola_PEBL.mpg The perfect christmas gift :) at least for us met-guys, don´t you think. Merry Christmas, and greetings from Austria Stefan Brandes __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
