Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures]
Thank you, Matthias, Martin, Sterling, Chris and others I may have inadvertantly missed for providing such comprehensive science, photography and speculation on the provenance and composition of the Hajar-al-Aswad. I also thank Ted and Jan for sharing their experience and images. I'm pleased to see that the predominant view, held also by Norbert, is that the "Black Stone" (It's not really black..now is it?)is a meteorite. And if I were asked... I would postulate that it is an iron based on the excellent photos shown to me last year. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Matthias Bärmann >Sent: Oct 6, 2010 2:50 AM >To: "Sterling K. Webb" , >meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Martin Altmann > >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures] > >Nice photograph of the Hajar al-Aswad also here: >http://www.toursaudiarabia.com/kaaba/kaaba-3-high.html > >Thank you, Sterling, for pointing to Ted's adventure. > >Same subject, approached by our friend from Poland Jan Woreczko: >http://www.woreczko.pl/meteorites/travels/Stambul_2010/BlackStone-EN.htm > >Great, my respect to Ted and Jan! > >Best, > >Matthias > > > >- Original Message - >From: "Sterling K. Webb" >To: ; "Martin Altmann" > >Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 6:21 AM >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures] > > >Martin, Count Deiro, List, > >The Sokollu Mehmet Pasha Mosque in Istanbul >is said to contain a fragment of the Mecca meteorite: >http://www.suite101.com/content/istanbuls-elegant-little-mosque-a212930 > >Ted Brattstrom posted this photo essay about >his search for the six fragments said to be housed >in Istanbul here: >http://kauscience.k12.hi.us/~ted/Blackstone/hajar-al-aswad.htm > >Count, the above link contains a photo of the >Ka'aba meteorite in its silver mount. > > >Sterling K. Webb > >- Original Message - >From: "Martin Altmann" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 6:48 PM >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures] > > >See also: >http://imca.cc/insights/2006/IMCA-Insights04.htm > >Best! >Martin > >-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com >[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von >Chris >Spratt >Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2010 01:34 >An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures] > >The stone at Paphos is not a meteorite. I've seen it and touched it. >Sacred perhaps, but not a meteorite. > >Chris Spratt >Victoria, BC >(Via my iPhone) >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures]
Martin, In your scholarship about the various "black stones", do you have anything, particularly any photos, of the object displayed at the Kaa'ba? The ones I was allowed to look at last year are the work product of another and they can't be shared. Or I would. Meyer -Original Message- >From: Martin Altmann >Sent: Oct 5, 2010 4:48 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures] > >See also: >http://imca.cc/insights/2006/IMCA-Insights04.htm > >Best! >Martin > >-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com >[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Chris >Spratt >Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2010 01:34 >An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures] > >The stone at Paphos is not a meteorite. I've seen it and touched it. >Sacred perhaps, but not a meteorite. > >Chris Spratt >Victoria, BC >(Via my iPhone) >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite miniatures
Martin, Andre and List, I would prefer not to go into detail, as I am a crusader and an infidel, but I have had the opportunity to study contemporary high resolution digital color photography of the "Black Stone" in it's present perturbation both from the inside of the Kaa'ba and the outside, as it sits in its apparently silver frame. If it's not a fusion crusted, regmaglypted chondritic meteorite, you can call me, as was once famously proposed, Meyer! Best, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Martin Altmann >Sent: Oct 4, 2010 2:56 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite miniatures > >Here the same scene from the Siyer-i-Nebi, >in the manuscript ordered by Ottoman Murad III. 1595. >(Volumes in Topkapi museum, New York & Dublin). > >http://kuerzer.de/siyer > >Best! >Martin > > >-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com >[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von André >Knöfel >Gesendet: Montag, 4. Oktober 2010 23:32 >An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite miniatures > >BTW: This painting is called 'Mohammed at the Kaaba' >> It's a painting from the History of the World (JĀMEʿ al-TAWĀRIḴ) >> by Rašid-al-Din from Tabriz, Persia >> from the Edinburgh manuscript, which is dated at 1307. >> > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite miniatures
Hi Dave and List, It is held in some educated quarters that the fusion crusted meteorite depicted, is exactly that, and that it is depicted in the paintings being placed in the rebuilt (approx. 7th Century) Kaa'ba in Mecca. The most revered site in Islam. Further, there is a good argument that the meteorite being lugged around in chariots in Assyrian and other middle eastern texts, carvings, and sculpture, is the same "Black Stone" that Muslims kiss (now just point at) while circling the building on their Haj to Mecca. Thank you Martin for the post. It was serendipity that you put up the photos unsolicited, as they are very important to some work I'm about to undertake. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: David Gunning >Sent: Oct 4, 2010 1:27 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite miniatures > > >Yo Martin, > >So this may help prove, what, that in ancient Persia polishing ten-pin >bowling balls with rugs may have been more common than previously >thought? > >Spare me! > >Dave Gunning > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The Book of of the Stone by Matthias Barmann
List, Matthias Barmann, a Lister known to many of us, has written and compiled the most beautiful book of prose, poetry and reflection on stones I have ever laid my eyes on. The Book of the Stone (2003 Jung & Jung). It's full of the thoughts of others written or expressed in various forms over the past five thousand years on the existence and importance of stones to the physical, metaphysical and emotional feelings of man. It's presentations make for an easy mental segue from stone to meteorite. An excerpt: "Steine sind stumme Lehrer; sie machen den Beobachter stumm, und das Beste, was man von ihnen lernt, ist nicht mitzuteilen." Goethe "Stones are mute teachers, they make the observer mute, and the most important thing man learns from them, stays within him." Quoted from Goethe in the "Book of the Stone" by Martin Barmann. (Attempt at interpretive translation by Count Deiro) Many of our friends on List understand German and this diminutive book is written in that language. I would love to see it published in English. But, for now, I wanted to bring it to the attention of those on List who can read it and encourage them to obtain a copy. No one afflicted with our obsession with "the stone" can escape the peaceful contemplation that comes with reading it. Thank you, Matthias Guido __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Subject: Re: Habital Planet Discovery Announcement
Listees, And now we have this to contemplate. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1316538/Gliese-581g-mystery-Scientist-spotted-mysterious-pulse-light-direction-newEarth-planet-year.html Best to all, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Habital Planet Discovery Announcement
Hello List, Maybe...just maybe... http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100929/sc_afp/usastronomyplanet_20100929210707 Best to all, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 (BRA) IS paired to NWA 5400 !
Ah! Meine guten Freunde, Martin, Shawn und alle auf der Liste. >Martin said, "And that is one point, which makes meteorite collecting so >fascinating, that >you can participate to a certain degree in the red-hot space research!" You have hit the nail on the head, Martin! I, for one, collect for the thrill of having a specimen that advanced the knowledge of the cosmos and our beginnings. What would one prize more and pay more to have? A lunar brought back by an astronaut from the moon, or the lunar found in the trackless deserts of NWA and proven by all science available to be authentic...or a specimen recovered from NWA that has a classification based on a PARTIAL analysis? Of course!!! The one with the impeccable provenance of being found on the moon! What would command more of one's treasure. An Ensesheim with provenance, or a stone of the same classification from NWA? How about the first meteorite, with COMPLETE analysis, that is the first of it's kind found to be tied to the earth's early formation? Say NWA 5400? It is the research, and the science, and the rarity, that first drive the desireabilitythen the other factors of collection enter the picture to set the initial price. Please, ladies and gentlemen, don't denigrate those of us who say we collect for investment. We, in reality, support the research and the science of our learned academics with our obsession to participate by desiring to have and to hold what they have discovered. Best to all, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Martin Altmann >Sent: Sep 28, 2010 9:17 AM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 (BRA) IS paired to NWA 5400 ! > >But, Shawn, Count, all.. > >with NWA you get material, which you couldn't afford, if you'd have to buy >it in form of historics, >material, where not sufficient quantities for all, collectors&scientists, >are available among the historics, >you get NEW material and sometimes material not to be found among historics > >and you get it at an all-time-in-history-rock-bottom-low-price. >(See my boringly lengthy posting from yesterday on the IMCA-list) > >And I don't know, always this volatileness... > >I mean for most collectors, meteorites are more than only an episode of two >or three years, >NWA we have for only 10 years now, >all in all I don't have the impression that a price decline of NWAs >happened, to me it seems rather, that the recent years they're getting - >some slowly, some faster - more expensive. > >And if you think on the somewhat longer run, mid-term, >I think, then it won't carry weight, whether today a NWA costs a couple of >dollars more or less. > > >Btw. meteorites are much more than curios or collectibles, >they are objects of current cutting-edge research. > >Other than with fine art, antiques, coins, books, baseball cards ect. that >field isn't so concludingly closed in that respect. > >And really..., it is certainly not the business of the research institutes >and universities, >to serve as certifiers and consultants for the valuation of meteorites as >commercial collectibles. >They do research and science. > >And that is one point, which makes meteorite collecting so fascinating, that >you can participate to a certain degree in the red-hot space research! > >Best! >Martin > > >-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com >[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Shawn >Alan >Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. September 2010 17:46 >An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Betreff: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 (BRA) IS paired to NWA 5400 ! > > >Adam wrote: > > >*** > >This issue is not unique to NWA meteorites. The same thing could be said for > >Antarctic or other desert finds. Yes, Antarctica is a desert. The same issue > >applies to falls. How much Allende is really out there? Nobody knows for >sure, >the same can be said for Murchison. You can make the same claim for just >about >any fall. > > >*** > >Adam the difference between NWAs and all the other falls is that NWA nobody >knows where the strewn fields are. As for the rest, there is data on strewn >fields and correct documentation that is used to asses the fall or find. > >But with a NWA I find that people say that only buy my NWA because its the >real deal and the pairs are inferior. The problem with that is with NWAs are >collected and through out the months or year the same meteorite gets >recycled back to dealers and in a since every NWA stone has to be classified >cause of the collection process. > >Good example is NWA 2999, I think this meteorite has 2 other pairings if not >more and think how many pairs it will have in a few years from now? And >another good example is NWA 5400 which could have a few pairs,
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 (BRA) IS paired to NWA 5400 !
Carl and List, Carl has plaintively asked: "Are we witnessing the demise of the collector market for meteorites here? >Am I really reading that a certain Scientist's word is not good enough for >some collectors now? >Am I really reading that O isotopes are now needed to prove pairings for the >collector market as well as for the Scientific studies? >Am I really reading that a certain dealers word trumps the word of a >Scientist? >Am I really reading that these things are bought as investments? And as I was addressed..I will answer.. Carl, what you are seeing is not the demise, but the developing seriousness and maturity of the COLLECTOR market in high end meteorites. Yes, some scientist's work is not good enough (maybe thorough enough would be more artfully put) for some collectors. No, gas analysis are no more needed, I suppose, than any other parameter..it's just that isotopes are so definitive when calling a close pairing. I, for one, will spend more for a meteorite that has all the pedigree than one that lacks a fingerprint that, if known, just might make it something other than what it is purported to be. Huge mistakes have been made. I have seen criticism of a scientist's report for cause...but I have only once seen a dealer's word attempt to negate a finding of a scientist. The recent "angrite" argument comes to mind. And...heaven forbid... you ARE seeing meteorites bought with the intention of not only collecting them for whatever makes the buyer's nipples hard...historic and scientific importance, additional scientific study, appearance, rarity, but his additional satisfaction in acquiring an object of virtue that provides an opportunity to pay for itself and provide a haven for disposable cash. I look upon the collection, study and hunt for meteorites as the most fun I have had for my money with my clothes on in a long time. Best to you and all, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: cdtuc...@cox.net >Sent: Sep 27, 2010 8:58 AM >To: Richard Montgomery , 'Meteorite-list List' >, countde...@earthlink.net, "Tom P." > >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 (BRA) IS paired to NWA 5400 ! > >List, >Are we witnessing the demise of the collector market for meteorites here? >Am I really reading that a certain Scientist's word is not good enough for >some collectors now? >Am I really reading that O isotopes are now needed to prove pairings for the >collector market as well as for the Scientific studies? >Am I really reading that a certain dealers word trumps the word of a >Scientist? >Am I really reading that these things are bought as investments? > >Well, I guess anyone or institution with a whole pristine uncut and unstudied >meteorite in his collection really just has a rock. >Because it could not possibly be legitimate or it would have damage from >study? > >I guess if it's not from De beers it couldn't possibly be a diamond? Only De >Beers sells " real" diamonds . Right? > >A good investor should buy low and sell high. Anyone who buys at the top of >the market may need to take another look at their investment strategies. > >I don't mean to be harsh. It's just I think as a collector it is not up to me >to prove anything about pairing. That should be left to the Scientists. >Sure you can ask questions about things but to distrust the word of a >scientist on this public forum is not only insulting and degrading but could >be detrimental to the hobby as a whole. >Again, think about the tens of thousands of uncut stones out there in both >private and public collections that are considered to be of a specific type of >material. Have all or even any of these even had O isotopic studies done on >them? I think maybe some at best . >Calcalong Creek was totally verified and published as a Lunar meteorite prior >to any O isotopic study ever being done on it at all. Just to name one. >I know this because I have a copy of the abstract and there is NO mention of O >isotopes. >The point here is that we can and do trust our Scientists. I personally would >trust them more than any dealer anytime. >Also, collectors please keep in mind that there is no entity that *certifies* >any of these so called meteorites as meteorites. Only that they are named. >Yes, in order for the name to be approved they must have science done on them >but there is no set requirement that they must have O isotopic studies. >It is my understanding that all of these rocks paired with NWA 5400 all came >from the same dealer and a certain dealer happened to buy just one of a box >full of the same. I'm sure he wishes he had purchased them all but luckily he >and De Beers are not the only sellers out there. >Carl > >-- >Carl or Debbie Esparza >Meteoritemax > > > Richard Montgomery wrote: >> Hi List. I specifically chose slices of NWA 5400 and NWA 6292 from Greg and >> Peter because of the O-anaysis. Highly regarded science has been paired >>
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 (BRA) IS paired to NWA 5400 !
Tom amd List, Meteorites are not only a passion of mine, but an investment ..like stocks and bonds...or art works. The only way I have any protection for my investment is if dealers can be trusted to follow the same high standards when dealing in rarites. I'm not talking about paying ridiculous prices for new falls. Leave that to those who must have a specimen now...or think the total weight will remain a reported low. I'm talking about a specimen that was over two years in analysis, including oxygen studies, that gets released and then immediately someone in Morocco comes up with a box full of stones that a scientist, whom I personally don't think put out a complete analysis, says are paired. Further proof of the pudding is that the suspect pairings all get offered for sale...right now and at bargain prices for even what they are purported to be...That's opportunism and profiteering in my book. I'm not whining. I'll take my chances. I just obtained a beautiful crusted slice of Wold Cottage with superb provenance that I could ill afford, but I trusted the dealer and to me it's not only historic, gorgeous and rare, but a goood investment for my rapidly inflating American dollars. I am for standardization of classification and analysis. Best to all, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 (BRA) IS paired to NWA 5400 !
List and those whose feet fit the following shoes, Peter is quoted by Greg as saying each and every suspected "pairing" to NWA 5400 absolutely has to have oxygen isotope analysis performed. I empathically agree. When I, and other collectors, purchase a specimen of a rarity that commands a high price per gram, we select carefully a dealer that we know and trust to have accomplished a complete classification that includes gas analysis. Greg Hupe' has an impeccable reputation as, does Peter Marmet, of only offering a new and rare addition to the inventory with full provenance and analysis. Therefore, I buy from them. For my own reasons, I paid a premium price to have my pick of NWA 5400 when first offered by Hupe' and I don't like having my ox gored by opportunists and profiteers. There are standards that should be followed amongst gentlemen of commerce. Best to all, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Greg Hupe >Sent: Sep 25, 2010 2:06 PM >To: Peter Marmet , Greg Catterton >, starsinthed...@aol.com >Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 (BRA) IS paired to NWA 5400 ! > >Hello Peter, GregC and Tom, > >Peter has it right, each and EVERY suspect 'pairing' to NWA 5400 absolutely >has to have oxygen isotope analysis performed, on every stone. Most people >do not know about the additional stones that 'looked' like NWA 5400, but >oxygen work proved they were not paired. I even submitted samples from >additional stones I sampled while in Morocco two years ago that 'looked' >similar to NWA 5400, but oxygen analysis later proved them to be 'just' >brachinites. NWA 5400 is one meteorite that requires these advanced >analysis, no shortcuts or visual 'pairing' will cut it. As Peter pointed >out, "...further studies are currently [being] made concerning NWA 5363." In >other words, oxygen isotope analysis has not been completed so "NWA 5363" >has not been confirmed as a pairing [to NWA 5400]. The last discussion on >this List during the summer months stated that. Dr. Irving had not yet >received a sample of "NWA 5363". But then again, which of the 30 stones, if >any, were sampled and sent to him? > >Since we know that NWA 5363 consists of 30 (thirty) different stones >totaling ~2kg, I and Dr. Irving, among others, believe that each and every >stone that is considered as "NWA 5363" need to be individually studied and >have oxygen analysis performed, unless all 30 pieces fit neatly together as >a puzzle, which they do not. As we know, visual comparisons do not make for >a pairing even upon the 30 pieces where only one stone was sampled. As Dr. >Irving stated, "NWA 5363" will always be a suspect meteorite because of the >unfinished work (no oxygen performed) and the fact that there are 30 >different stones that were visually paired, tossed in a box, and then sold >around the world as being paired to the one sampled "NWA 5363" stone. > >I am not trying to further any negative discussions here, these are just the >facts. If I had a stone from "NWA 5363", you bet I would send a piece of >that particular rock and have oxygen analysis performed, preferably by the >same lab where NWA 5400 was studied. Short of that, you have, or are >offering, unconfirmed stones which may or may not be paired to the "NWA >5363" stone, much less NWA 5400. > >I will not engage into any further discussions here regarding this topic. If >you have concerns about your "NWA 5363" stone, contact a scientist who is >willing to study your rock. > >Best regards, >Greg > > >Greg Hupe >The Hupe Collection >NaturesVault (eBay) >gmh...@htn.net >www.LunarRock.com >IMCA 3163 > >Click here for my current eBay auctions: >http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault > >- Original Message - >From: "Peter Marmet" >To: "Greg Catterton" >Cc: >Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 12:13 PM >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 (BRA) IS paired to NWA 5400 ! > > >Hello Tom, Greg and list, > >I know that further studies are currently made concerning NWA 5363. I >also know that several recent finds are - strangely - NOT paired to >NWA 5400, despite >the fact that they look very similar. > >Here you can see picts of NWA 5363 (please scroll down) and NWA 6292 >(paired to NWA 5400!) > >http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/id41.html > >...and here are two picts of a thin section of NWA 5363: > >http://www.thinsections.ch/ts/LOD_-_ACAP_-_BRA.html(please scroll down) > >Best, >Peter > > > > > >2010/9/25 Greg Catterton : >> I have not seen anything recent, but last I read on here it had been >> confirmed already to be paired (5363) >> >> I have a couple nice slices of 5400 and I have to say that its awesome, >> and I will be sharing thin section images of it soon. >> >> Looking forward to seeing the 5363 images also! >> >> Hope everyone is doing good today. >> >> Greg Catterton >> www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com >> IMCA
Re: [meteorite-list] Who owns the meteorite?
Steve said "...it must belong to the school." I respectfully disagree with this statement and with the statement " ...it belongs to the Smithsonian." Public schools do not in themselves "own" property. The lands and improvements are typically the assets of local, or state government (i.e.. the citizens of that county, or state.) Their maintenance and operation are usually governed by an elected Board of Trustees. They, if made aware, would most probably decide the disposition of a find. Federal lands, including National Parks, Wilderness Areas, Mining Claims, Restricted Areas and lands managed by the Bureau of Land Management are subject to a hodge podge of regulations that directly, or indirectly affect the taking of meteorites. There is no "all encompassing directive that says all meteorites on all Federally held land "belongs" to the Smithsonian. Consider a " mining claim" or a "homestead" being proved up. There are many other examples...including the "issuance of a permit to hunt meteorites specifically on Federal, or State lands." Something I have personal experience with having recently joined with the permit holder to search ;ands off limits to those without a permit. Finally, in many states, Nevada being one, I have seen metorites considered minerals and as those mineral rights are with held from fee simple ownership of land. Therefore, the land owner has no right to the minerals on his own land. He must is sublect to complicated state mining and oil exploration law. This whole business is messy and arbitrary and can lead to no good. I would like the meteorite community to develop a lobbying arm to educate state and federal lawmakers and monitor and promote legislation that protects us before, not after, our activities are banned. Please spare us the arguments that it is expensive, etc. etc. Regards, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Steve Dunklee >Sent: Sep 24, 2010 11:05 AM >To: almi...@localnet.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Who owns the meteorite? > >Ownership of meteorites is pretty clear in United States law. The owner of a >meteorite is the land owner. If one falls on my land it is mine. If one falls >on your land it is yours. If one falls on federal land it belongs to the >Smithsonian. So if one lands in a school yard it must belong to the school. >Other countrys may have different law. Cheers Steve Dunklee > >On Thu Sep 23rd, 2010 12:48 AM EDT almi...@localnet.com wrote: > >>Hi Ron and all, >> >>If this is going to be the case, if you get a permit to hunt federal lands >>then you are being granted a lease to hunt and all material should belong to >>the finder then. Perhaps this is an interpatation of the law we can live with. >> >>--AL Mitterling >> >>Quoting R N Hartman : >> >>> So regarding the article, in essence this interpretation is saying that if >>> you have a lease on land at which time a meteorite lands on it, you have >>> legal rights to it. But you must have the lease, not be wandering down a >>> public road or across a school yard, or even being on a dry lake or the >>> open desert. Yes?? >>> >>> Ron Hartman >> >> >>__ >>Visit the Archives at >>http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>Meteorite-list mailing list >>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Apology for double post.
Sorry for the double post. Sttutered on the Send key. Count Deiro __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stranded on a Large Island - With a DryLake Bed on It
Hi Mark and List, I should have been a bit more accurate in my labeling the book the first on the subject. Your cites are correct, Mark. What would have been more accurate would have been if I said I wanted to read the first "Catalog of Meteorites". Published 1825, a few years before good ole Ernst's demise. Here is the cite: Chladni, E. F. F. (1825), E. F. F. Chladni's Beschreibung seiner Sammlung vom Himmel herabgefallener Massen. Nebst einigen allgemeinen Bemerkungen von Ebendemselben, Heft 2, Archiv fur die gesammte Naturlehre, pp. 200-240 Best regards, Guido -Original Message- >From: Mark Grossman >Sent: Sep 21, 2010 4:06 PM >To: countde...@earthlink.net, Steve Dunklee , >raremeteori...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stranded on a Large Island - With a DryLake >Bed on It > >I thought Chladni wrote 2 books on meteorites - one in 1794 and another in >1819 if my memory serves me correctly. > >Which "first book" on meteorites was written in 1825? > >Mark > >Mark Grossman >Briarcliff Manor, NY > > > >- Original Message - >From: >To: "Steve Dunklee" ; ; > >Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:24 PM >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stranded on a Large Island - With a DryLake >Bed on It > > >> Chladni's "Meteorites". The first book on the subject. 1825. I've wanted >> to read it. >> >> Count Deiro >> IMCA 3536 >> >> -Original Message- >>>From: Steve Dunklee >>>Sent: Sep 21, 2010 2:48 PM >>>To: raremeteori...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stranded on a Large Island - With a Dry Lake >>>Bed on It >>> >>>It was the best of times it was the worst of times. Cheers Steve >>> >>>On Tue Sep 21st, 2010 3:56 PM EDT Adam Hupe wrote: >>> That's easy. Richard O. Norton's "Rocks From Space" This book has done more to promote meteorites in a positive manner than any other form of media. I must have read it five times and still learn something each time. I have loaned out copies to others and all are well used. Happy Hunting, Adam - Original Message From: Thunder Stone To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, September 21, 2010 12:45:42 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Stranded on a Large Island - With a Dry Lake Bed on It List: If you were stranded on a large Island and could only bring one Meteorite Related book with you... what would that book be? Greg S. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>__ >>>Visit the Archives at >>>http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>>Meteorite-list mailing list >>>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stranded on a Large Island - With a Dry Lake Bed on It
Chladni's "Meteorites". The first book on the subject. 1825. I've wanted to read it. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Steve Dunklee >Sent: Sep 21, 2010 2:48 PM >To: raremeteori...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stranded on a Large Island - With a Dry Lake >Bed on It > >It was the best of times it was the worst of times. Cheers Steve > >On Tue Sep 21st, 2010 3:56 PM EDT Adam Hupe wrote: > >>That's easy. Richard O. Norton's "Rocks From Space" This book has done more >>to >>promote meteorites in a positive manner than any other form of media. I must >>have read it five times and still learn something each time. I have loaned >>out >>copies to others and all are well used. >> >>Happy Hunting, >> >>Adam >> >> >> >> >> >>- Original Message >>From: Thunder Stone >>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>Sent: Tue, September 21, 2010 12:45:42 PM >>Subject: [meteorite-list] Stranded on a Large Island - With a Dry Lake Bed on >>It >> >> >>List: >> >>If you were stranded on a large Island and could only bring one Meteorite >>Related book with you... what would that book be? >> >>Greg S. >> >>__ >>Visit the Archives at >>http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>Meteorite-list mailing list >>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >>__ >>Visit the Archives at >>http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>Meteorite-list mailing list >>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Martian Ergs
Hello List, Ah! To be driving my General Atomics Corp. Model A1b nuclear powered ATV over these dunes with my Mine Lab 9500 LRSAD (long range small anamoly detector) and wearing my custom California Casuals Off World Explorer suit and sipping an ice cold Dos Equis. Oh yeah! Mick signing "Satisfaction" in my helmet. http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100914a Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Gigapan and Barratta Thin Section
Good on ya.. Ted! Bob has been talking about this for quite awhile. He wasn't exaggerating about how super the images are...and will only be sharper as you perfect the process. I notice on the 59099 image that in the upper right hand corner there is a large black inclusion that sports some artifacts that look like light reflections. Do you know what they are? Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: ted brattstrom >Sent: Sep 19, 2010 2:42 AM >To: Meteorite List >Subject: [meteorite-list] Gigapan and Barratta Thin Section > >Aloha - > >In concert with Bob Walker - of Queensland, and the person who takes the thin >section images for him, I figured that, a series of images of a thin section >could be stitched together using GigaPan, and presented for your enjoyment. > >These two are the first attempts, and are using the 20x image set. When I have >some more free time :-) the 50x set will get stitched together, > >For those who haven't played with gigapan images, The cool part is you can do >some serious zooming! since the overall image is made up of a number of high >resolution images, the potential is good. In these cases, 16 images were >joined up to make a 120MB image. The focus still needs to be worked on. That's >over at the original image side of things :-) I hope the 50x ones are a bit >crisper! > >If all goes well, we'll start a whole series of these! I'm looking forward to >it. > >cheers - Ted Brattstrom > > >Barratta - L4 > >(Handy Hint - Launch the Full Screen Viewer) > >xpol > >http://gigapan.org/gigapans/59099/ > >Normal > >http://gigapan.org/gigapans/59098/ > > > > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RFSPOD - Sep 18, 2010 - THe Elbogen Iron
No offense taken..Martin :0) Guido -Original Message- >From: Matthias Bärmann >Sent: Sep 18, 2010 3:29 PM >To: Martin Altmann , >meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] RFSPOD - Sep 18, 2010 - THe Elbogen Iron > >Hi Mike, Martin e.a., - > > > >the story of Elbogen (Loket) oscillates between fiction and historical >event, fairy tale and report. That's quite fascinating. > > > >There's the tale of the cruel Count (excuse me, Guido ;-) of Elbogen who >received punishment through a heavenly event: thunder, lightning, an >impact, and at least, at the ground of a crater, a "stone" instead of the >Count (who stand before at that place). Always a practical solution, as we >know from the end of "Don Giovanni" as well :-) > > > >On the other hand in several contexts 1422 is mentioned as the year of a >meteorite fall in the region of Elbogen/Loket >http://cestovani.kr-karlovarsky.cz/de/pronavstevniky/Zajimavosti/Krajvbajichapovestech/Seiten/Loket.aspx > >- however without exact descriptions. > > > >At least I'd agree with you, Martin: Elbogen, the first European fall - not >at least 'cause this mixture of fiction and reality is a quite typical >European feature ... > > > >My best as ever, > > > >Matthias > > > > > >- Original Message - >From: "Martin Altmann" >To: >Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 11:29 PM >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] RFSPOD - Sep 18, 2010 - THe Elbogen Iron > > >Hi Mike, > >Because the Brothers Grimm do have it in their folk tales collection. >At their time it was kept in the local town hall. >Other version report such phenoma like thunder, a pit, where it laid > >Main mass in Vienna: >http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/WebImg/Elbogen.jpg > > >Elbogen was also used as print plate by Widmanstaetten, when he printed >firstly his Thomson structures. > >Elbogen: >http://www.zamky-hrady.cz/2/img/loket_let.jpg > >Elbogen castle: >http://www.kurpension-buchmann.de/Bilder/Loket_burg.jpg > >Here a knife, which was in the possession of Chladni, made of Elbogen. >http://euromin.w3sites.net/Nouveau_site/musees/berlin/Website-dt/Elbogen.htm >l > >Here a version of the story from Ludwig Bechstein's Book of German Tales >(1852): >http://www.zerda.de/der-verwuenschte-burggraf.html > >And here we have the long and detailed report by Neumann, 1812, >who had visited that iron in 1811 and had taken samples. >He writes, that Chladni visited him soon after, swapped 6 meteorites versus >the iron samples >and was so excited about, that he decided to travel immediately to Elbogen. > >http://kuerzer.de/Neumannelbogen > >Neumann quotes the topographer Schaller to have firstly reported that iron. >(Must have been Jaroslaus Schaller, 1785). > >Schaller reported also, that the General Johann von Werth (1591-1652) had >let the lump thrown into the well of the castle. > >Johann von Werth: >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_von_Werth > > > >For me it always will remain the first European fall :-) >Martin > > >-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com >[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Mike >Bandli >Gesendet: Samstag, 18. September 2010 22:02 >An: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] RFSPOD - Sep 18, 2010 - THe Elbogen Iron > >Dear Bernd, > >Thanks for the extract. I wonder why most catalogues, Grady, MetBull, etc. >still list it as a fall. Perhaps it was the story of it being chained down >to prevent it from flying away the way it came. There also seems to be >discrepancies in "The History of Meteoritics and Key Meteorite Collections," >where it is listed as both by different authors. One would think that by now >the official status of such a historic piece would be sorted out. I'll have >to read the old reports and see where the fall status stems from. >Interesting! > > >Mike Bandli >Historic Meteorites >www.HistoricMeteorites.com >and join us on Facebook: >www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 >IMCA #5765 > > > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Listening To Fermi
Where are "They?" Well, going on the the evidence we have accumulated so far from exploring the planets and other cosmic bodies in our solar system..and I would include the findings of amino acids and fossilized nanonacteria in certain meteorites..it could very well be that "They" have already existed and been extincted on one or more of those bodies. "They" were "There" and didn't survive. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: JoshuaTreeMuseum >Sent: Sep 16, 2010 9:09 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: Listening To Fermi > >Where are "they"? For the sake of this argument let's say they're on one of >the Alpha Centauri planets, a mere 4.3 light years away. Or, for that >matter, they could be anywhere within 75 light years, the distance Earth's >transmissions have reached. With their advanced planet detection methods and >finely tuned dish signal reception set-ups, surely they would know about us. >And they would also know how to send signals powerful enough to reach our >planet through all the space dust and interferring cosmic rays. And yet >nothing, nada, zilch, goose egg. The silence is deafening and speaks >volumes. There's nobody there. Until ET phones home, I can't muster up the >faith to believe in his existence. I need evidence, not wishful thinking or >a yearning to not be alone. I'm not a yearner. > > > >Phil Whitmer > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] bleeding in stoneys
Now that's droll. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: JoshuaTreeMuseum >Sent: Sep 16, 2010 6:00 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: [meteorite-list] bleeding in stoneys > >This a fairly common phenomenona seen in Roman Catholic and Greek Orthodox >stoneys, it's called stigmeteorata. > > >- >"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate." > > > >Phil Whitmer > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Other hobbies?
Hello Daryl and Listees, I can't remember a time in my life that I wasn't involved in multiple avocations and hobbies. Some have had legs and are still vying for the time to enjoy them...dozens of others have dropped by the side of the road in my seven decades of travel. Flying ...I soloed 52 years ago and have ratings in single and multi-engine land and sea planes, helicopters and gliders. Fencing...A Prevot d'Armes in Foil, Epee' and Saber. USFA National Medalist. FAI Referee. Fencing Master at the Adelson Prep School. Auto Racing..SCCA Pro and IMCA Licenses. Competed in single seat sports racing and formula cars. Motorcycles..Sold my Hyabusa..I'm too old for it. I know ride a Honda 750 Shadow Aero cruiser tricked out to look like a copsicle. Hot Boats.. Just sold my last. A 21' Carrera jet with a Gale Banks built 454 cu.in. motor. Here's a link if you like fast boats. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL5SMpgtdVA Firearms...NRA Certified Instructor. Collect WW2 military and enjoy long range target shooting with my M70 .308 sniper. WritingDocu-dramas, short stories, screen treatments. Published. Writer's Guild member. Art Photography...Published. Specialize in aerial documentation of contemporary earth sculptures..Smithson, Heizer, DeMaria, etal. Collect..Objects of Virtue, contemporary art, wines, classical music recordings and my family history. Here's a link if you'd like to know how one becomes a Count. http://www.guidodeiro.com/ And that's it...too many notes. Best regards to all having fun in life. You only go around once..so, make the best of it. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: "i...@niger-meteorite-recon.de" >Sent: Sep 16, 2010 12:58 AM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Other hobbies? > >I absolutely agree. What an interesting bunch of experts. We live >in fascinating >times ... > >- Geomorphology of deserts >- photographing insects, focussing on Hymenoptera and Coleoptera >- collecting propaganda leaflets dropped during armed conflicts, from World War >I to present >- (quit skydiving a couple of years ago) > >Cheers, >Svend > > > >Darryl Pitt hat am 15. September 2010 um 21:40 geschrieben: > >> >> >> I just bundled together the "hobby" emails i missed >> >> Wow. what an interesting group and such fascinating interests. I love >> it. >> >> It's funny, among my friends my fascination with meteorites makes me >> seem rather exotic---but not in this crowd: >> >> --antiquarian maps >> --photographing flowers >> >> ;-) >> >> Wishing everyone all the best / Darryl >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 15, 2010, at 3:18 PM, Jan Bartels wrote: >> >> > Collecting movie props. Especially from Close Encounters of the >> > Third Kind. See all props here: www.yourprops/user/brubaned >> > >> > Keeping and breeding venamous snakes and scorpions.and stll >> > alive after 30 years in this hobby!! >> > >> > Best, >> > Jan. >> > IMCA 9833 >> > >> > >> > - Original Message - From: "tracy latimer" > > > >> > To: >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:45 PM >> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Other hobbies? >> > >> > >> >> >> >> Most of the things I do are too diffuse to count as hobbies: >> >> >> >> Home improvement (DH and I have an agreement: he keeps the >> >> computers happy, and I keep the house going.) >> >> >> >> Reading. I work in a library, and have first dibs on all new >> >> material. 'Nuff said! >> >> >> >> Paintball, although we haven't played for many years now. >> >> >> >> War-, computer, and role playing games. We have a weekly gaming >> >> session, plus online gaming. >> >> >> >> I collect semiprecious gems as well as meteorites, but not seriously. >> >> >> >> I also do various craft-type things, as diverse as quilting, wood >> >> carving, printmaking and jewelry making. >> >> >> >> Astronomy, especially promoting it to children. Next week, I've >> >> arranged for telescope time on one of the big Haleakala telescopes >> >> via the Maui branch of the Institute for Astronomy (UH), to be >> >> controlled through an Internet connection and viewed at our >> >> library. This will be the 4th time we've done this, and it's a >> >> real crowd pleaser. >> >> >> >> That's all I can think of for now. >> >> >> >> Best! >> >> Tracy Latimer >> >> __ >> >> Visit the Archives at >> >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3134 - Release Date: >> > 09/14/10 08:35:00 >> > >> > __ >> > Visit the Archives
Re: [meteorite-list] AD-Large (?) Rare Specimens-Still No Reserves!
Mike said "..my mouth was salivating at the possibilities.. " Then I saw that the largest was only 388 miligrams..." "...maybe next time.." Hey Mike, Call Adam up and he'll sell you as big a piece as you want. I've seen him do it. He holds more main masses of planetary then anyone I know. Wasn't your dig a bit uncalled for... or was it was a errant attempt at humour. Counr Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Michael Fowler >Sent: Sep 14, 2010 8:33 AM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Cc: Michael Fowler >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD-Large (?) Rare Specimens-Still No Reserves! > >Hi Adam, > >When I saw your post for "Large" rare specimens starting at 99 cents, and no >reserves, I was starting to get excited, my mouth salivating at the >possibilities. > >Then I saw that the largest was only 388 milligrams and all the others were >even smaller. Oh Well. Maybe next time. > >Mike Fowler >Chicago > >Proud owner of: > >DHO 025 Lunar full slice 7.34 grams >NWA 2727 Lunar full slice 4.02 grams > >> Dear List Members, >> >> You will definitely want to check out the auctions I have ending this >> afternoon. I loaded some very large pieces of very rare meteorites and >> started >> them out at just 99 cents with NO RESERVES. You may want to take advantage >> of >> these great deals while they still exist. These type of auctions will be >> coming >> to end soon. >> >> >> All Auctions Can Be Found At This link: >> http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/raremeteorites!_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_mdoZ >> >> >> >> Some Planetary Highlights: >> >> Largest piece I have left of DAG 735 Martian meteorite : >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140450569670 >> >> Large .254 gram thinly cut part slice of Lunar meteorite Dhofar 908: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200517183223 >> >> Awesome .194 gram thinly cut slice of Lunar meteorite Dhofar 911: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200517183924 >> >> Great .168 gram thinly cut slice of Lunar meteorite Dhofar 1085: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140450573301 >> >> Nice .092 gram part slice of Lunar meteorite NEA001: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140450574959 >> >> Almost Out of Stock - .104 gram part slice of Martian meteorite NWA 1110: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200517196113 >> >> Rare - .224 gram slice of Martian meteorite NWA 1195: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200517196739 >> >> VERY RARE LOW TKW- .150 gram slice of Martian meteorite NWA 2626: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140450581128 >> >> Crusted and Large - .388 gram specimen of Lunar meteorite NWA 3163: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200517202983 >> >> >> HUGE PIECE - .328 gram specimen of Martian meteorite NWA 4468: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200517203949 >> >> Ultra Rare - .182 gram thinly cut slice of Lunar meteorite NWA 4884: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200517206369 >> >> Legendary - .324 gram part slice of Lunar meteorite NWA 5000: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140450588804 >> >> Scarce - .270 gram thinly cut slice of Lunar meteorite NWA 5406: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200517207425 >> >> 260 milligram fragment of signature Martian meteorite Shergotty: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200517207755 >> >> >> And Too Many to List Very Rare Classifications Can Be Found At This >> Link: >> http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/raremeteorites!_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_mdoZ >> >> >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] GoogleEarth & GPS in Meteorite Hunting
David said, "Any coordinates in the MetBul prior to the advent of the GPS system must be considered suspect." I'm afraid that the accuracy of locations since the introduction of the GPS system are still suspect. In just a few months of field research on recent finds in the Western USA, I came across GPS coordinates that were obviously off by miles. For instance, there's a rare CM1 find whose Googled MetBul location puts it a vacant lot in a residential sub-division. There are folks out there who consider the location of their finds their personal strewn fields and intentionally desseminate inaccurate coordinates to throw off competitors and collectors. I suppose they can make a good argument for doing it. Regards, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: David Norton >Sent: Sep 12, 2010 9:25 AM >To: 'Michael Blood' >Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GoogleEarth & GPS in Meteorite Hunting > >On a conceptual this sounds great. One flaw in deployment is the accuracy of >the gps coordinates that you may have for any given find. There are >coordinates in MetBul that are accurate within 20 miles or sothats' a >lot of dirt. Any coordinates in MetBul prior to the advent of the GPS system >must be considered suspect. > >-Original Message- >From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com >[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael >Blood >Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:07 PM >To: Meteorite List >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GoogleEarth & GPS in Meteorite Hunting > >Hi all, >I have come to realize there is a crucial tool for meteorite >Hunting that I have yet to hear of anyone using: iPad using >"Google Earth" with the GPS coordinates. >To use this tool in the field, you must have one of the >Models with G3 capability. That said, you can not only locate >Coordinates easily, you can SEE the area you are searching >With great clarity - and also check any "Utube" videos of other >Hunts in the given area, and any other information you may >Want from the internet WHILE you are in the field, the price >Sounds compelling, since I hear the better GPS units start at >about $200 and the cheaper ones are at least $100. >I have located the cheapest method of purchasing a unit. It goes >from $629- with FREE shipping to $829 depending on Gigabytes you >Desire, so and have decided to provide a link from my site. >However, the best anyone can explain me is the more gigabytes >you have the more movies and videos you can STORE on the device, >so, personally, I see little to be gained by spending the additional $ >for more gigs unless you, personally make a LOT of videos and want >all of them on your iPad. Otherwise, any other source can be accessed >by the device, so, why store it IN the device? Perhaps I am wrong >here, if so, would someone on the list please clarify additional advantages >To purchasing massive Gigs on this unit. >Regardless, > >1) Go to: > >http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ > >2) Click on the RED banner ad: "Sales and Freebies" left of >The Banner Ad for IMPACTICA. > >3) On the new page, near the top, click on "iPad" > >4) On the newer page, again click on "iPad" > >5) On this page, scroll down to "iPad Starting at $499" go to >The right of it and UNDER "On Line Store" click on "Buy Now" >(this will NOT be committing you to any purchase) > >6) you will now be on a page offering the lowest prices for >An iPad possible: > >16GB1 >* Ships: Within 24hrs >* Free Shipping >* $629.00 >* Pre-Order iPad with Wi-Fi + 3G 16GB > >32GB1 >* Ships: Within 24hrs >* Free Shipping >* $729.00 >* Pre-Order iPad with Wi-Fi + 3G 32GB > >64GB1 >* Ships: Within 24hrs >* Free Shipping >* $829.00 > >Best wishes, Michael > > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite magazine
Nancy and Larry, I'm sure most people who read Meteorite Magazine are aware how time, talent, hard work and dedication it takes to put out a quality publication. I know that when ever someone asked me to do something similar I always had a good excuse to duck the job. It's going to take a couple of dedicated meteorite enthusiasts with very big feet to fill your shoes. Best regards and a personal thank you, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: meteoritefin...@yahoo.com >Sent: Sep 12, 2010 5:26 AM >To: "lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu" >Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite magazine > >Larry and Nancy, > >Thanks so much to both of you for all the hard work and the great job you' ve >done on the magazine. And a special, personal thank you for the help you have >given me with my past articles.( I'm sorry for all those endless >revisions and emails! ) > >Very best wishes, >Robert Woolard > >Sent from my iPhone > >On Sep 11, 2010, at 3:37 PM, lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu wrote: > >> ... >> That said, Nancy and I must now say good-bye to Meteorite magazine. We are >> doing this for both personal and professional >> >> Larry and Nancy Lebofsky >> >> >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Help with a Gebel Kamil meteorite for sale on eBay
Hi Tom, I believe this purchase would be covered under eBay's Buyer Protection Plan. Give it a look. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: starsinthed...@aol.com >Sent: Aug 30, 2010 2:38 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: [meteorite-list] Help with a Gebel Kamil meteorite for sale on eBay > >Hi list, I am looking at a nice Gebel Kamil meteorite listed on eBay but >the seller has 0 feedback and absolutely no history of happy buyers. I >have attached the link to the auction. I was wondering if any of you know >this seller and can say anything positive or negative. > >I would gladly purchase this example for the price it is offered at if I >had some certainly I would receive it. > >Thanks, Tom Phillips > > >Auction title: > >Egypt, Jabel Kamil new meteorites 480.0 gm wow big sale > > >Auction link: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260657796857 > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Elections and my status
Hello Greg, other IMCA Members and List, Greg, most of us who who have an interest in collecting and/or selling meteorites know you. I personally admire the energy and time you put into marketing your inventory, establishing a museum and conducting educational outreach programs, but as regards to your reasons for wanting to be on the IMCA Board of Directors, I have to disagree with you. IMCA wasn't established to do the activist work you mentioned. We must simply read IMCA's own declaration to remind us of its sole purpose. "The International Meteorite Collectors Association (IMCA Inc.) has one primary purpose: helping Meteorite Collectors in their search for Authentic Meteorites for their collections and assisting others in helping to learn more about meteorites. Whether they are new to the Meteorite World or very knowledgeable, we want all Collectors to buy/trade with confidence from our Members, knowing that every item will be exactly what it is represented to be." The last sentence is the operative one. Think of IMCA as the Better Business Bureau rather than the Chamber of Commerce. The BBB holds it members to advertised ethical standards and the C of C educates the public, is politically active and promotes business. Regards, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Greg Catterton >Sent: Aug 28, 2010 11:47 AM >To: i...@imcamail.de >Subject: [IMCA] Elections and my status > >Hi to all. Some of you know me, for those that dont, my name is Greg >Catterton. I am a meteorite collector and also sell meteorites. >There are upcoming elections here at the IMCA and I would like to announce my >decision to run for a spot on the board. > >What I see and why I want to run... >I feel the IMCA has reached a point of standstill and the list is virtually >dead with no activity. We need to change this. >I think its a time for fresh ideas and a new level of growth for the group. > >What I would like, and my ideas... > >I want the IMCA to take a much greater active role in the field of meteorites, >for the members to create a group specifically for community outreach and >educational work within the respective members towns. > >I would like the IMCA to take on a greater role in public and start working >with schools, institutions and also governments. As a group of collectors and >dealers, we have a unique opportunity that I feel is being ignored. Yes, it >will be hard work, but it needs to be done by someone soon, otherwise we will >end up losing the ability to have the awesome rocks from space we all enjoy. > >The list. We need to get the list more active. I suggest a combined effort to >post at least once per week of something relevant to meteorites. >Even if its a new meteorite we added... You have a meteorite classified, post >the testing results to the list. Something, anything more then we are doing >now. > >I think the member fees and budget should be available for view on the site to >show where dues are going and to help to get a fund pool built for projects we >wish to take on. > >I am working on a museum, yes it will be small, yes it may or may not work, >but I am trying to do this and the group has been quite about this. Thats not >a good thing. This is something that the IMCA should be discussing and working >up ideas and tossing out thoughts. Nothing but silence... This has been very >disappointing for me. >My museum is something that I wanted to use the IMCA name with, to help bring >it more public, but I am left wondering why should I if we cant even generate >a discussion on the list about it. This is a chance to really break meteorites >into a greater public awareness. Sure it wont be on the level of "meteorite >men" but its more real then the TV show and something that has the ability to >educate the public rather then entertain - far more then the TV show does. Not >a stab at the show or the people behind it, but just the truth. Yet again, >this list is quite. >I do want to thank the members that have helped, and this is not about the >money, rather then the outright lack of support the IMCA list has shown for >this... > >I have reached the point where I honestly wonder the IMCA is here for. It is >not (or hardly) publicly active, it does not take a predominant role in >outreach. Some members do, but I have not seen this from the IMCA as a group. > >I feel that changes must be made and growth start, otherwise I may end up >leaving the group. I just dont see the value for the dues, other then the fact >I get sales from having an IMCA logo. > >The recent drama on the metlist concerning the IMCA and its members clearly >shows there is a bad impression some have of the IMCA - weather valid or not, >caused by a disgruntled former member or not - it is still out there. The IMCA >must start taking a more active role. > >Greg Catterton >www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com >IMCA member 4682 >On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/w
Re: [meteorite-list] OK, how 'bout
Hi Rob and List, Sorry to hear you are in the van of back sufferers. It must be very difficult for you. Yours is a very good suggestion...getting up close and personal is the right way to examine prospects. That's true for just about anything one is searching for. I agree with your method of using the magnet in hand and would encourage all new hunters to follow your advice. My last post was an attempt at poking fun at the more experienced hunters combined with a thinly concealed challenge as to who will discover the first American Lunite. It's inevitable that it will be foundthat's exciting. Best personal regards, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: "Matson, Robert D." >Sent: Aug 24, 2010 6:36 PM >To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: [meteorite-list] OK, how 'bout "Magnet canes are flawed?" > >Hi Count/List, > >No need for anyone to get defensive -- many people use a meteorite cane >because their backs are shot. I have compressed lumbar discs, so I have >lived with chronic back pain for years. Bending over a thousand times >per meteorite hunting day does take its toll. (I consequently bend at >the knees, not at the waist.) > >The point I was trying to make is that if you depend SOLELY on the >feedback provided by a meteorite cane, you will unavoidably miss some >meteorites -- and unfortunately, these will be the most interesting >ones. I've seen my share of newcomers to the hobby that completely >depend on their magnet canes as their primary detector, because they >are still learning to recognize meteorites (of all types) by their >visual appearance. That's all fine. But if someone is young and/or >in reasonably good physical shape, I suggest they ditch the cane in >favor of a handheld magnet. It forces you to place more dependence >on your eyes; if you're uncertain of a particular rock, you simply >pick it up for a closer look (which also has the advantage of giving >you an idea of the density). You then have the option of holding >the rock in one hand and the magnet in the other to test for >attraction. Believe me, the sensitivity of this test is an order >of magnitude greater than using the exact same magnet on the end >of a cane. My intention here is not "embarrassment", as you put it, >but enlightenment. If I didn't want others to be successful, I'd >let them merrily go about their business tapping rocks all day. --Rob > >-Original Message- >From: countde...@earthlink.net [mailto:countde...@earthlink.net] >Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 1:29 PM >To: Matson, Robert D.; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Magnet canes are evil > >Robert wrote: > >I sometimes carry an LL6 with meThat usually "cures" them. > >Ah, come on you guys. You talk like we relative "newbies" are a sandwich >short of your picnic. I carry a very powerful (+50) neomydium on a staff >I use, cause I'm a cripple and I don't like to fall down, or bend over. >But, my first location device is my own pair of MK2 eyeballs backed by >recognition patterns learned in studies on line, in papers, texts and >handling in person thousands of meteorite wrongs and rights. Yeah, I >know, I'll never catch up to you in numbers, but you'd be surprised at >the difference in each individual's learning abilities, memory and >powers of observation. Per esempio. I was dropped in a known strewnfield >that had been worked, admittedly for six years, by one of the best >hunters in the Americas and several of his equally experienced >dealer/hunter friends. Within an hour I spotted a 13.7 kilo LL6 sticking >three inches out of the ground. I had used my eyes first, then the cane >second. If it hadn't been attracted I would have picked it up anyway to >loupe it. If it was obviously not a wrong, but still ringing bells >(possible planetary, or other rariety) I would have put it down. Then >cubed, GPS'ed and taken a photo, put it in a baggy (if it would fit) and >taken it home to the scope. But guess what?...this LL6 clicked, albeit >lightly. So, you had better use a lunaite to embarass "newbies" with >their magnets. And keep in mind that hunting for meteorites isn't a very >complicated business. Hell, you can teach dogs to do it. >And about that first lunar to be found in the Americas...don't be >surprised if some reportably dumb ass newbie trips over it. > >Regards, > >Count Deiro >IMCA 3536 > > > >-Original Message- >>From: "Matson, Robert D." >>Sent: Aug 24, 2010 1:10 PM >>To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>Subject: [meteorite-list] Magnet canes are evil >> >>Mark wrote: >> >>> As soon as everyone stops using metal detectors and magnet canes to >>> look for meteorites then the first Lunars in Europe or USA will >>> eventually be found, until then! >> >>I have never used a magnet cane, nor will I ever, and I always advise >>new hunters against their use. A magnet cane is basically an H-, L-, >>iron, and stony-iron filter. I sometimes carry
Re: [meteorite-list] Magnet canes are evil
Thanks, Greg Very cool. You can hide it from the big bad BLM nazis. I carry a telescoping magnetic mechanic's part recovery wand to which I taped the exact same diameter neomydium on the end. Carry it concealed, like my sidearm, everywhere. Guido -Original Message- >From: Thunder Stone >Sent: Aug 24, 2010 7:32 PM >To: parkforest...@hotmail.com, countde...@earthlink.net >Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Magnet canes are evil > > >List: > >When I got into meteorite hunting and decided to make a magnet cane, I thought >about how to make it and this show "Becker" came on; it starts Ted Dansen as a >grumpy Doctor and noticed that the blind man walked across the street and into >a diner and sat at a table. As he sat, he folded the cane and set it in a >backpack. And it hit me - What a great design for a meteorite hunting >stick. I should make a magnet cane out of a folding blind mans walking cane. >So I bought one at a medical store and refined the bottom with glue and a >screw to attach the magnet and made my very own meteorite hunting cane. It's >great because I can fold it and put it in my back pocket or my backpack. It's >also good for travel - like on a plane. > >It looks very much like this one. > > >http://www.mountainside-medical.com/products/Blind-Mans-Walking-Cane-50-Inch-long.html > >It has always fascinated me to look at all the different meteorite hunting >canes there are, and how each person puts their individuality in making them. > >Greg S. > > > > > >> From: parkforest...@hotmail.com >> To: countde...@earthlink.net >> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 16:00:28 -0500 >> CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Magnet canes are evil >> >> >> Next time I'm hunting in an area that will take me hours from my vehicle >> I'll be using one of these. Ideal if you have bad knees, hips, back and >> don't want to recline in the dirt or a farm field sprayed with pesticides, >> herbicides, liquid manure or whatever. It will have a magnet on the tip of >> course. >> >> http://www.amazon.com/Travelon-Walking-Seat-Cane-One/dp/B001CZT4SG/ref=pd_sim_hpc_1 >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> > Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 16:28:30 -0400 >> > From: countde...@earthlink.net >> > To: robert.d.mat...@saic.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Magnet canes are evil >> > >> > Robert wrote: >> > >> > I sometimes carry an LL6 with meThat usually "cures" them. >> > >> > Ah, come on you guys. You talk like we relative "newbies" are a sandwich >> > short of your picnic. I carry a very powerful (+50) neomydium on a staff I >> > use, cause I'm a cripple and I don't like to fall down, or bend over. But, >> > my first location device is my own pair of MK2 eyeballs backed by >> > recognition patterns learned in studies on line, in papers, texts and >> > handling in person thousands of meteorite wrongs and rights. Yeah, I know, >> > I'll never catch up to you in numbers, but you'd be surprised at the >> > difference in each individual's learning abilities, memory and powers of >> > observation. Per esempio. I was dropped in a known strewnfield that had >> > been worked, admittedly for six years, by one of the best hunters in the >> > Americas and several of his equally experienced dealer/hunter friends. >> > Within an hour I spotted a 13.7 kilo LL6 sticking three inches out of the >> > ground. I had used my eyes first, then the cane second. If it hadn't been >> > attracted I would have picked it up anyway to lo >> up >> > e it. If it was obviously not a wrong, but still ringing bells (possible >> > planetary, or other rariety) I would have put it down. Then cubed, GPS'ed >> > and taken a photo, put it in a baggy (if it would fit) and taken it home >> > to the scope. But guess what?...this LL6 clicked, albeit lightly. So, you >> > had better use a lunaite to embarass "newbies" with their magnets. And >> > keep in mind that hunting for meteorites isn't a very complicated >> > business. Hell, you can teach dogs to do it. >> > And about that first lunar to be found in the Americas...don't be >> > surprised if some reportably dumb ass newbie trips over it. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Count Deiro >> > IMCA 3536 >> > >> > >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > >From: "Matson, Robert D." >> > >Sent: Aug 24, 2010 1:10 PM >> > >To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> > >Subject: [meteorite-list] Magnet canes are evil >> > > >> > >Mark wrote: >> > > >> > >> As soon as everyone stops using metal detectors and magnet canes >> > >> to look for meteorites then the first Lunars in Europe or USA >> > >> will eventually be found, until then! >> > > >> > >I have never used a magnet cane, nor will I ever, and I always >> > >advise new hunters against their use. A magnet cane is basically >> > >an H-, L-, iron, and stony-iron
Re: [meteorite-list] Magnet canes are evil
Bill and List, Thats a serious piece of equipment. Put little plates on the feet to spread the load so you don't sink in and a nice mag on the end of the cane.. And...I almost forgot...most of the "real" hunters would paint it camo. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: bill kies >Sent: Aug 24, 2010 5:00 PM >To: countde...@earthlink.net >Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Magnet canes are evil > > >Next time I'm hunting in an area that will take me hours from my vehicle I'll >be using one of these. Ideal if you have bad knees, hips, back and don't want >to recline in the dirt or a farm field sprayed with pesticides, herbicides, >liquid manure or whatever. It will have a magnet on the tip of course. > >http://www.amazon.com/Travelon-Walking-Seat-Cane-One/dp/B001CZT4SG/ref=pd_sim_hpc_1 > >Bill > > > >> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 16:28:30 -0400 >> From: countde...@earthlink.net >> To: robert.d.mat...@saic.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Magnet canes are evil >> >> Robert wrote: >> >> I sometimes carry an LL6 with meThat usually "cures" them. >> >> Ah, come on you guys. You talk like we relative "newbies" are a sandwich >> short of your picnic. I carry a very powerful (+50) neomydium on a staff I >> use, cause I'm a cripple and I don't like to fall down, or bend over. But, >> my first location device is my own pair of MK2 eyeballs backed by >> recognition patterns learned in studies on line, in papers, texts and >> handling in person thousands of meteorite wrongs and rights. Yeah, I know, >> I'll never catch up to you in numbers, but you'd be surprised at the >> difference in each individual's learning abilities, memory and powers of >> observation. Per esempio. I was dropped in a known strewnfield that had been >> worked, admittedly for six years, by one of the best hunters in the Americas >> and several of his equally experienced dealer/hunter friends. Within an hour >> I spotted a 13.7 kilo LL6 sticking three inches out of the ground. I had >> used my eyes first, then the cane second. If it hadn't been attracted I >> would have picked it up anyway to l oup >> e it. If it was obviously not a wrong, but still ringing bells (possible >> planetary, or other rariety) I would have put it down. Then cubed, GPS'ed >> and taken a photo, put it in a baggy (if it would fit) and taken it home to >> the scope. But guess what?...this LL6 clicked, albeit lightly. So, you had >> better use a lunaite to embarass "newbies" with their magnets. And keep in >> mind that hunting for meteorites isn't a very complicated business. Hell, >> you can teach dogs to do it. >> And about that first lunar to be found in the Americas...don't be surprised >> if some reportably dumb ass newbie trips over it. >> >> Regards, >> >> Count Deiro >> IMCA 3536 >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> >From: "Matson, Robert D." >> >Sent: Aug 24, 2010 1:10 PM >> >To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> >Subject: [meteorite-list] Magnet canes are evil >> > >> >Mark wrote: >> > >> >> As soon as everyone stops using metal detectors and magnet canes >> >> to look for meteorites then the first Lunars in Europe or USA >> >> will eventually be found, until then! >> > >> >I have never used a magnet cane, nor will I ever, and I always >> >advise new hunters against their use. A magnet cane is basically >> >an H-, L-, iron, and stony-iron filter. I sometimes carry an LL6 >> >with me to the desert on the off-chance I'll run into someone using >> >a magnet cane. That usually "cures" them. ;-) >> > >> >--Rob >> >__ >> >Visit the Archives at >> >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> >Meteorite-list mailing list >> >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Magnet canes are evil
Robert wrote: I sometimes carry an LL6 with meThat usually "cures" them. Ah, come on you guys. You talk like we relative "newbies" are a sandwich short of your picnic. I carry a very powerful (+50) neomydium on a staff I use, cause I'm a cripple and I don't like to fall down, or bend over. But, my first location device is my own pair of MK2 eyeballs backed by recognition patterns learned in studies on line, in papers, texts and handling in person thousands of meteorite wrongs and rights. Yeah, I know, I'll never catch up to you in numbers, but you'd be surprised at the difference in each individual's learning abilities, memory and powers of observation. Per esempio. I was dropped in a known strewnfield that had been worked, admittedly for six years, by one of the best hunters in the Americas and several of his equally experienced dealer/hunter friends. Within an hour I spotted a 13.7 kilo LL6 sticking three inches out of the ground. I had used my eyes first, then the cane second. If it hadn't been attracted I would have picked it up anyway to loup e it. If it was obviously not a wrong, but still ringing bells (possible planetary, or other rariety) I would have put it down. Then cubed, GPS'ed and taken a photo, put it in a baggy (if it would fit) and taken it home to the scope. But guess what?...this LL6 clicked, albeit lightly. So, you had better use a lunaite to embarass "newbies" with their magnets. And keep in mind that hunting for meteorites isn't a very complicated business. Hell, you can teach dogs to do it. And about that first lunar to be found in the Americas...don't be surprised if some reportably dumb ass newbie trips over it. Regards, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: "Matson, Robert D." >Sent: Aug 24, 2010 1:10 PM >To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: [meteorite-list] Magnet canes are evil > >Mark wrote: > >> As soon as everyone stops using metal detectors and magnet canes >> to look for meteorites then the first Lunars in Europe or USA >> will eventually be found, until then! > >I have never used a magnet cane, nor will I ever, and I always >advise new hunters against their use. A magnet cane is basically >an H-, L-, iron, and stony-iron filter. I sometimes carry an LL6 >with me to the desert on the off-chance I'll run into someone using >a magnet cane. That usually "cures" them. ;-) > >--Rob >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Help please. How to get large pieces Weighed
I've found that digital bathroom floor scales will weigh in kilos, or pounds, accurately to a tenth up to 300 lbs. I bought a nice flat one from Wahlgreens drugstore for $15.00... Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Fred Bieler >Sent: Aug 24, 2010 10:58 AM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Help please. How to get large pieces Weighed > >Consider a FedEx shipping location or a retailer who ships via FedEx >regularly. The electronic shipping scales FedEx supplies to us measure up to >75 pounds with two decimal place accuracy. I just weighed a letter on one. >It weighed 0.05 pounds or 8/10ths of an ounce. This agreed with a separate >postal scale, so the FedEx scale seems to be fairly accurate. They probably >have higher capacity scales at a FedEx shipping store, as they take parcels >up to 150 pounds. > >Fred Bieler >Astronomics/Christophers, Ltd./Cloudy Nights >www.astronomics.com >800.422.7876 > >-Original Message- >From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com >[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Galactic >Stone & Ironworks >Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 8:13 AM >To: Steve Dunklee >Cc: vegasroc...@cox.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Help please. How to get large pieces Weighed > >Hi Bill, > >A feed store is a good place also. And possibly your local vet. > >Best regards, > >MikeG > > >On 8/24/10, Steve Dunklee wrote: >> another place to have large pieces weighed if you dont own a scale would >be >> at a certified scale at the supermarket checkout. Or at an agricultural >> grain mill. They have certified scales for feed and livestock. Most >> university labs also have scales but most are not certified. Have a great >> day Steve >> >> >> >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > >-- > >Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites >http://www.galactic-stone.com >http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Extremobacteria
Hello List, Timely video report on the ability of cyanobacteria to survive in space for years: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11039206 Regards all, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] (meteorobs) Iranian Large Fireball During Perseids
Dirk reports large fireball over Iran. Well, chances are it wasn't a meteor. It was more likely the terminal stage of an Isreali MIRV. How's that song go? "Bom Bom Iran". :-) Count Deiro -Original Message- >From: drtanuki >Sent: Aug 22, 2010 4:59 AM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Global Meteor Observing Forum > >Subject: (meteorobs) Iranian Large Fireball During Perseids > >Dear List, > A large fireball was reported today in the Iranian press; no date or time >was given for the event. > >More: >http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2010/08/large-fireball-seen-in-iran-iran.html > >Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo >___ >Mailing list meteorobs: meteor...@meteorobs.org >To UNSUBSCRIBE, email: owner-meteor...@meteorobs.org >http://lists.meteorobs.org/mailman/listinfo/meteorobs __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 2.110 gram
HELLO EVERYONE, THREE CHEERS FOR ANNE!!! THREE CHEERS FOR IMCA!!! THREE CHEERS FOR ALL THE GENTLEMEN AND LADY MEMBERS!!! Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Martin Altmann >Sent: Aug 20, 2010 5:42 AM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 2.110 gram > >Carl, > >yes, probably you better shouldn't have pressed the "send" button. > >Neither you, Barry. > >Of course everyone is free to express his opinion, >but the form it happened in, is not acceptable. > >Here you have the list archives: >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > >There you will find not a single posting by Anne, where she would have >insulted any person. >And certainly Dr.Jambon feels not insulted by her. > >On contrary, in a silly brawl about possible pairings of stones, silly, >because they still are in the totally normal process of classification - >caused by the impatience of some list-members, >she called on the list-members to do that, what one could expect from any >mature meteorite collector, >to demonstrate the patience necessary and to wait until the results of the >analyses will be ready. >And furthermore she got committed to exchange samples of the questioned >stones, between the scientists involved in the classification processes, >which in the end now seems to work, so that the matter can be solved by >scientific criteria to the full satisfaction of all interested in that >question. > >>Ann Black has made of a chance for a legitimate > >I tell you Barry, what Anne has made. > >As co-founder of the IMCA she made the meteoritic world a safer place for >everyone, also for you, introducing new standards into the meteorite trade, >which got more and more widely accepted. >And she created with IMCA a contact point for conflict resolution for >participants in meteoritics >and a place for advice in meteoritic questions and a source of information >about meteorites. > >And that open to everyone and that free of charge for everyone. > >And like the other founders of IMCA, she did this in thousands of >working-hours absolutely unpaid. > > >That is certainly more, than to type an imprudent mail in the head of a moment >- lock, stock and barrel condemning everything, what one even doesn't know, >and to attack with inacceptable wordings a person, to whom the meteorite >community owes respect and gratitude >for that, what she has achieved for that community. > >Everyone is free to dislike and to criticize IMCA, >but I think if that's done in public, one should try to stick to facts and >should abstain from personal decrials. > >I'm sure, that when you'll have slept on it, >you'll think similarly about that. > >Martin > > > > > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Iron meteorite inclusion question
Wang, Very nice specimen. Wish it was in my cabinet. In your first message you had the descriptions of the inclusions correct. Best regards, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Yinan Wang >Sent: Aug 19, 2010 8:58 PM >To: Galactic Stone & Ironworks >Cc: METEORITE LIST >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Iron meteorite inclusion question > >Here's a rough picture of the slice, any suggestions? > >http://pics.livejournal.com/thefossiladdict/pic/000axxf0 > >-Yinan > >On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks > wrote: >> Hi Yinan, >> >> The dark inclusions could be graphite. Troilite often has a "brassy" >> coloration to it. >> >> Do you have a photo of the slice? >> >> Best regards, >> >> MikeG >> >> >> On 8/19/10, Yinan Wang wrote: >>> Hi everyone, simple question: >>> >>> In an iron meteorite, when etched, what do the troilite and >>> schreibersite inclusions look like? >>> >>> I have a slice of canyon diablo and I'm seeing dark round nodules (the >>> troilite) and silvery dendritic material (schreibersite?). Which is >>> which? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Yinan >>> __ >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites >> http://www.galactic-stone.com >> http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone >> >> >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids
Hi Shawn and List, It will be "severe clear" tonight as pilots say here in Nevada. We got lucky. I rounded up the two youngest grandsons, Michael 12, and Vincent 10, and we'll get up at one o'clock and take the Jeep out into the pitch dark desert north of Las Vegas. We have lawn chairs, iced chocolate and coffee. Temp is forecasted to be 70 degrees Farenheit during the observation period. 105 degrees after the sun comes up. The boys will want to hunt meteorites on the way back. Best to all...and to those on the West Coast of America...good viewing! Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Shawn Alan >Sent: Aug 12, 2010 10:48 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids > >I live in Brooklyn and its raining and when its not raining the sky is lite up >by all the lights from Bk and the city. By chance what time is the best to >look at the meteor shower and what part of the sky? > >Shawn Alan > >[meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids >Steve Witt stelor96 at yahoo.com >Thu Aug 12 20:22:20 EDT 2010 > >Previous message: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids >Next message: [meteorite-list] Perseids 2010 >Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] > > >Nothin' but clear and blue in NW Indiana. Sorry Bernd:( > >Regards, >Steve > > >Steve Witt >IMCA #9020 >http://imca.cc/ > > >--- On Thu, 8/12/10, bernd.pauli at paulinet.de >wrote: > > >> From: bernd.pauli at paulinet.de > >> Subject: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids > >> To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > >> Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 2:52 PM > >> Lots of "rainids" and "cloudids" > >> where I live :-( > >> > >> Ugh! Aargh! > >> > >> Bernd > >> > >> __ > >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > >> Meteorite-list mailing list > >> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >> > > > > > > > > > >Previous message: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids >Next message: [meteorite-list] Perseids 2010 >Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] > > >More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: Re: Most expensive meteorites!
IF this is a double post..my apologies. Guido -Forwarded Message- >From: countde...@earthlink.net >Sent: Aug 10, 2010 7:24 PM >To: Ed Majden , meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Most expensive meteorites! > >Ed says, referring to all collectors, "They are NUTS!" > >Most critics of the prices paid for art probably don't have an understanding >of what drives the value. Pieces created by an artist are meant to open a >dialogue with those who view the work. The artist is making a statement using >whatever medium he wishes. He hopes the viewer will understand what he has >said. If initially successful, the artist continues to make works, as if >having an ongoing conversation with his audience. If continually successful in >inspiring and reaching his viewers with what he has to say, his work takes on >importance and desirability, ergo value. All the other factors...a great >technique, small output, uniqueness, and the death of the artist...also drive >the price. > >There are so many art genres..and some, like minimalism and conceptualism, use >the simplest of mediums and objects to carry the artist's message. Ed's >painted stripes on plywood for example. They mean nothing to Ed because he >hasn't any familiarity with the ouvre of this artist. This doesn't make Ed >ignorant. It's actually a failure on the part of the artist. But, for those >that "get it" it's the successful conversation represented by this whole body >of work that drives the price. > >There are no limits to art. And much of what we see in other objects that >provokes an emotional, or thoughtful. response is really art. This applies to >meteorites. They speak to us in the language of creation. Their individual >appearance is unpredictable and many times beautiful. Our curiosity drives us >to analyze them with one revelation leading to another in a continuing >conversation. Our response to this intimacy is to desire and value them. Some >would say we are "NUTS". > >Count Deiro >IMCA 3536 > > >-Original Message- >>From: Ed Majden >>Sent: Aug 10, 2010 5:28 PM >>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>Subject: [meteorite-list] Most expensive meteorites! >> >> This confirms my impression of collectors! They are NUTS! I don't >>single out meteorite collectors but all collectors. Let us look at >>art as an example. If a painting by a famous artist sells for big >>bucks and later it turns out to be a fake it is nearly worthless >>again. It has nothing to do with the quality of the painting but who >>actually is the so called famous painter. The Ottawa art community, >>government, if I recall correctly paid big bucks for three stripes >>painted on a couple of sheets of plywood. Several people said they >>would duplicate this so called famous painting at a fraction of the >>cost, but there were no takers. Collectors and their vanity proves >>they are all NUTS! I have something you don't have! ;-) Meteorites >>should be about what they do for science and Not scarcity! >>Ed Majden >>Courtenay B.C. >>__ >>Visit the Archives at >>http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>Meteorite-list mailing list >>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Most expensive meteorites!
Ed says, referring to all collectors, "They are NUTS!" Most critics of the prices paid for art probably don't have an understanding of what drives the value. Pieces created by an artist are meant to open a dialogue with those who view the work. The artist is making a statement using whatever medium he wishes. He hopes the viewer will understand what he has said. If initially successful, the artist continues to make works, as if having an ongoing conversation with his audience. If continually successful in inspiring and reaching his viewers with what he has to say, his work takes on importance and desirability, ergo value. All the other factors...a great technique, small output, uniqueness, and the death of the artist...also drive the price. There are so many art genres..and some, like minimalism and conceptualism, use the simplest of mediums and objects to carry the artist's message. Ed's painted stripes on plywood for example. They mean nothing to Ed because he hasn't any familiarity with the ouvre of this artist. This doesn't make Ed ignorant. It's actually a failure on the part of the artist. But, for those that "get it" it's the successful conversation represented by this whole body of work that drives the price. There are no limits to art. And much of what we see in other objects that provokes an emotional, or thoughtful. response is really art. This applies to meteorites. They speak to us in the language of creation. Their individual appearance is unpredictable and many times beautiful. Our curiosity drives us to analyze them with one revelation leading to another in a continuing conversation. Our response to this intimacy is to desire and value them. Some would say we are "NUTS". Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Ed Majden >Sent: Aug 10, 2010 5:28 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: [meteorite-list] Most expensive meteorites! > > This confirms my impression of collectors! They are NUTS! I don't >single out meteorite collectors but all collectors. Let us look at >art as an example. If a painting by a famous artist sells for big >bucks and later it turns out to be a fake it is nearly worthless >again. It has nothing to do with the quality of the painting but who >actually is the so called famous painter. The Ottawa art community, >government, if I recall correctly paid big bucks for three stripes >painted on a couple of sheets of plywood. Several people said they >would duplicate this so called famous painting at a fraction of the >cost, but there were no takers. Collectors and their vanity proves >they are all NUTS! I have something you don't have! ;-) Meteorites >should be about what they do for science and Not scarcity! >Ed Majden >Courtenay B.C. >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram?
Melanie asked "What is the most expensive per gram...?" Gram sized and larger individual specimens of NWA 5000, Nakhla, Shergotty and Chassigny, just to name four planetaries, have brought up to $4,000 a gram depending on attractivness of size, weight, shape, lithology, fusion crust, preparation and documented provenance. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Melanie Matthews >Sent: Aug 10, 2010 1:38 PM >To: Galactic Stone & Ironworks >Cc: Meteorite List >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? > >Wow,, and the Sylacauga Hodges stone is just an ordinary chondrite.. Can you >imagine if it were a rare achondrite or a Planetary meteorite, with a limited >amount available to collectors?! @_@ > > > --- >-Melanie >IMCA: 2975 >eBay: metmel2775 >Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 > >I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. > > > >- Original Message >From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks >To: Melanie Matthews >Cc: Meteorite List >Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 5:29:53 AM >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? > >I once paid $100 for 1mg of the Sylacauga Hodges stone. > > > >On 8/10/10, Melanie Matthews wrote: >> Good evening/morning all >> What is the most expensive meteorite per gram, to date? The Lunar Calcalong >> Creek? After that which ones are next in line? >> >> >> --- >> -Melanie >> IMCA: 2975 >> eBay: metmel2775 >> Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 >> >> I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. >> >> >> >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > >-- > >Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites >http://www.galactic-stone.com >http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone > > > > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Test - Ground Control to Major Tom
Hi Mike, Marvin the Martian is home. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMuWOLVAzYY&feature=related Guido -Original Message- >From: Ed Deckert >Sent: Aug 8, 2010 10:52 PM >To: Galactic Stone & Ironworks , Meteorite List > >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Test - Ground Control to Major Tom > >Nah, not working... > >chirp chirp..chirp chip..chirp chirp... > >;-) > > >- Original Message - >From: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" >To: "Meteorite List" >Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 8:12 PM >Subject: [meteorite-list] Test - Ground Control to Major Tom > > >> Is there anybody out there? (just nod if you can hear me) >> >> Is there anyone home? >> >> The List is awfully quiet today, I just wanted to see if it's working. >> >> MikeG >> >> >> -- >> >> Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites >> http://www.galactic-stone.com >> http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> >> >> >> === >> Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. >> (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15600) >> http://www.pctools.com/ >> === > > > > > >=== >Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. >(Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15600) >http://www.pctools.com/ >=== >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - August 2, 2010
Nice to read compliments for a change. Mike deserves them. Half my modest collection came through his hands. Straight shooter. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: GERALD FLAHERTY >Sent: Aug 5, 2010 9:41 AM >To: Robert Woolard >Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - August 2, >2010 > >Most definitely, a huge agreement here! Miss you Mike and as always Michael >Rules! > >On Aug 4, 2010, at 10:17 AM, Robert Woolard wrote: > >> Michael,etc. >> >> I'm just now able to catch up on the emails over the last few days. When I >> read this one, I wanted to echo your sentiments about Mike Farmer. I'm sure >> he himself would be one of the first to agree with your "Sure he can have >> his moments..." statement, as he is well, let's just say... VERY >> passionate about meteorites and his business. ;-) And although I don't >> always agree 100% with Mike, I definitely can say that once you do get to >> know him, he is one of the most unselfish guys you could hope to meet. I'll >> never forget how he insisted that I use his metal detector in Sweden for >> several DAYS, which left him completely unable to hunt for any meteorites, >> because he had already found some earlier, and he wanted me to have as much >> chance as possible to find my own. How many of us would be willing to just >> sit out on hunting for days? And when we were on another trip, he gathered >> up all our left over food and supplies and gave them to some poor >> localinhabitants before we left. So yeah, we all know that Mike can get a >> little "excited" at times, but... deep down, he is a great person. (And one >> heck of a meteorite hunter!) >> >> And Michael J., congrats on your new iron. I've missed your meteorite of >> the day updates lately. I hope we can look forward to a lot more. >> >> Best wishes, >> Robert Woolard >> >> --- On Mon, 8/2/10, Michael Johnson wrote: >> >>> From: Michael Johnson >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - August >>> 2, 2010 >>> To: "Joe Kerchner" >>> Cc: "meteorite list" >>> Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 3:25 PM >>> Thanks Joe, >>> Michael Farmer is a great guy once you get to know him. >>> Sure he can have his moments like we all do. >>> I put together this website for Michael and Jim Strope a >>> few months ago. >>> http://www.pallasite-meteorites.com >>> While I did it for fun and asked nothing in return Michael >>> was kind enough to send the GK specimen. >>> Even though Michael is no longer on the meteorite list he >>> has always supported my RSPOD post. >>> >>> Photo by Rob Wesel added to the Gebel Kamil page: >>> http://www.rocksfromspace.org/gebel-kamil.html >>> >>> Regards, >>> Michael Johnson >>> http://www.rocksfromspace.org >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Joe Kerchner" >>> To: "meteorite list" >>> Sent: Monday, August 2, 2010 1:41:22 PM GMT -05:00 >>> US/Canada Eastern >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of >>> the Day - August 2, 2010 >>> >>> Nice piece Michael, these kind of remind me of SA. >>> Does anyone have an image of an etched slice of this new >>> iron? I know its an >>> ataxite, but some ataxites have really interesting etches, >>> I'm curious to see >>> this one etched. >>> That was a great gesture by Farmer, He gets a bad rap >>> sometimes, but is a pretty >>> good guy and a really good meteorite hunter. >>> >>> Best Wishes, >>> Joe Kerchner >>> http://illinoismeteorites.com >>> http://skyrockcafe.com >>> >>> >>> >>> - Original Message >>> From: Michael Johnson >>> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> Sent: Sun, August 1, 2010 10:09:52 PM >>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the >>> Day - August 2, 2010 >>> >>> http://www.rocksfromspace.org/gebel-kamil.html >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> __ >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> __ >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> __ >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list ma
Re: [meteorite-list] Help with a meteorwrong
Hi Rob and List, The 42nd. photo down posted on the Washington University at St.Louis' meteorite wrong page that he has a link to on his site, has a twin of his specimen listed a a hematite concretion. His description as being non-attracted and streaking as hematite ought to be enough, but look at the effort and money he has spent to display this specimen. Strange...sort of scary. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Rob Wesel >Sent: Aug 3, 2010 8:39 PM >To: Meteorite List >Subject: [meteorite-list] Help with a meteorwrong > >I wish they all came through this clear and level headed. Anyone have an >idea on what it might be to help this guy out? > >- Original Message - >From: sa...@team357.com >To: r...@nakhladogmeteorites.com >Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:28 PM >Subject: A New Meteorite Find! > > > > >Thank you for your time. I am trying to determine whether this rock I have >is a meteorite. I have collected a few meteorites and seen many of them >through the years, but I have never seen anything like this. I appreciate >any advice or information you can give about this rock. I have posted photos >on my website at the link below and I have posted a video on youtube. I >really believe this is rare so I have emailed this to a few of the top >meteorite collectors I could find online. Thank you so much for your time. >Thanks, >James > >The link to the page with photos is: http://team357.com/meteorite > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flwxc7OA_4w > >Rob Wesel >www.nakhladogmeteorites.com >www.facebook.com/nakhladog >-- >We are the music makers... >and we are the dreamers of the dreams. >Willy Wonka, 1971 > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] TEST
Excuse me,1234.4321 Test only. Count Deiro INCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: (meteorobs) Fireball 2010. 07.30_20.07.48 ± 1 U.T. from Italy
Hi Listees, Too beautiful a bolide not to share. Second link has details in English. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Forwarded Message- >From: Ferruccio Zanotti >Sent: Jul 31, 2010 8:39 AM >To: Global Meteor Observing Forum >Subject: (meteorobs) Fireball 2010.07.30_20.07.48 ± 1 U.T. from Italy > >Hi at all, > >from Italy This fireball with photo and video: > >http://meteore.forumattivo.com/bolidi-e-superbolidi-riprese-video-f30/fireball-20100730_200746-t1148.htm#4699 > >http://meteore.forumattivo.com/international-video-fireballs-f33/fireball-20100730_200748-1-ut-t1151.htm > >Ferruccio Zanotti > >IMTN > >( Italian Meteor and TLE Network ) > > >___ >Mailing list meteorobs: meteor...@meteorobs.org >To UNSUBSCRIBE, email: owner-meteor...@meteorobs.org >http://lists.meteorobs.org/mailman/listinfo/meteorobs __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil webpage
Grazie, Giancarlo, per il vostro llumination. Una storia molto interessante. Migliori riguardi, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message >From: "py...@libero.it" >Sent: Jul 31, 2010 2:43 AM >To: "meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil webpage > >I try to solve the riddle about the Kamil one or more individual(s?), because >I >was in the site. > >The 83 kg individual is definitely only one. > >Mario Di Martino found the individual during our February 2009 first survey to >the crater, and he made some photos (those with the orange pen) to his >finding. > >After that he reversed the individual to take some photos of the other side, >and after he partially burried the individual in the sand, because he don't >know when we can rescue the object. > >In fact the other photo is of the same individual one year later, February >2010, when the individual was collected and it was still partially burried in >the sand. > >I hope that solve this question, > >Giancarlo Negro > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil webpage
Svend and List, With all due respect to my fellow Italian, Dr. Luigi Folco, the subject of the pics, as he confirms, may be the same meteorite, but it doesn't take a very close observation to see that, rather than the pics being taken of the same subject from a "different perspective", they were taken at two entirely different locations. The meteorite has been moved and further...it has had regolith intentionally, or unintentionally scattered on it. For God's sake look at the size of that material in the regs! And those fist sized rocks next to meteorite in one pic and absent in the other. The question begs to be asked, SvendLuigi, did your folks move it after one of the pics was taken? It certainly looks as if someone did move it and further, added, or removed, debris from it's surface. Best regards, Guido -Original Message- >From: "i...@niger-meteorite-recon.de" >Sent: Jul 30, 2010 3:22 AM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil webpage > >Wouldn't the head of the Kamil expedition, Dr. Luigi Folco, be the qualified >authority to comment on the photos he and his team produced on the site? I >asked >him whether the two photos show two different finds or the same 83 kg mass. > >http://www.b14643.de/Sahara/Kamil_Patatrac_Crater/Kamil_1big.jpg > >http://www.b14643.de/Sahara/Kamil_Patatrac_Crater/Kamil_3big.jpg > >The kind gentlemen that he is, Dr. Folco took the time to reply to my trivial >question. > >Quote: > >"Dear Dr Buhl, >The two pictures feature the same 83 kg regmaglypted individual of the >Gebel Kamil meteorite. Its just a matter of different perspectives. >Sincerely, >Luigi" > >End of quote. > >Regards, >Svend > > > > > > > >Jason Utas hat am 30. Juli 2010 um 07:16 geschrieben: > >> Hello Regine, All, >> While I agree that the overall shapes of the irons are similar, and >> concede that you probably know more about photography than I do, I do >> know much about in-situ photographs and desert terrain. >> >> The trouble with assuming that the photo on the left is a "cleaned-up" >> version is the following, which I'd like to condense and then apply. >> >> #1 >> Photo 1: meteorite 1/2 buried >> Photo 2: meteorite on surface >> >> #2 >> Photo 1: meteorite clean >> Photo 2: meteorite covered in dirt >> >> #3 >> Photo 1: meteorite in undisturbed soil, surroundings >> Photo 2: meteorite on surface, may have been moved (dirt/rocks on >> surface would suggest otherwise, but possible). Surroundings >> themselves look undisturbed. >> >> #4 >> Photo 1: meteorite in sandy area, small rocks >> Photo 2: meteorite in rocky area >> >> So, #1. The photograph on the left shows a meteorite well-embedded in >> the ground. And the surface soil has been moved in only two locations >> around the entire meteorite (#3). There is a left-handprint that >> clearly breaks up the uniform texture of the undisturbed ground in >> front of/to the left of the iron, and it looks as though someone poked >> the ground a few inches in front of the pen used for scale. The rest >> is undisturbed desert pavement. If you were to step on it, you'd >> change the surface -- and it won't be the same until after the next >> rain. >> >> Apply #4. They clearly didn't move the large rocks from around the >> meteorite on the right because the ground around the meteorite on the >> left is almost entirely undisturbed. The meteorite on the left is >> undisturbed as well (and it's half-buried, as opposed to being on the >> surface); compare to the photograph on the right. >> >> Both meteorites have tapering ends. But in the photograph on the >> right, the "tail-end" is clearly several inches above the ground. The >> photograph on the left shows no such thing. That meteorite (on the >> left) is really sitting *in* the ground, as opposed to on top of it >> (again, compare to right-hand photo). I suppose you could chalk this >> up to an optical illusion, but I really don't think that it is. Take >> a look... >> >> Again, the meteorite on the left is half buried, yet clean, and in an >> undisturbed, rock-free area. >> The meteorite on the right is sitting on the surface of the ground, is >> covered with rock and dirt, and is also sitting in a relatively >> unaltered bit of desert. >> >> This is what happens if you step on similar ground. >> >> http://vormedia.com/images/mono2037.jpg >> >> http://media1.z2.zoopy.com/media/2009/05/20/7304/42304/original.jpg >> >> Compare to each meteorite photo. They're both sitting in pretty >> pristine desert. Not even a footprint. >> It's a textural thing. >> >> If you're saying that they cleaned up the photo on the right to make >> the one on the left, you're going to have to explain why they wanted >> to bury the iron deeper into the ground than it was in the first >> place, how they did so without disturbing the desert pavement in the >> immediate vicinity of the meteorite, and how they removed the rocks >> and made the n
Re: [meteorite-list] Scientist Warns Massive Asteroid CouldHitEarthin 2182
Thank you, Sterling Like is so famously said..."it ain't whether, but when." Thanks also for the very interesting and informative link. Guido -Original Message- >From: "Sterling K. Webb" >Sent: Jul 29, 2010 5:10 AM >To: countde...@earthlink.net, Stuart McDaniel - Action Shooting Supply >, Thunder Stone , >meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scientist Warns Massive Asteroid CouldHitEarthin >2182 > >List, Count, > >Ejecta get sorted by mass -- big chunks near the crater, >then medium chunks in the middle distance and so on. >At about 300 miles from impact, there is still a noticeable >dustfall from an impact this size. And the smallest particles >get blown into the atmosphere world-wide as micron-sized >dust. > >The statistical average speed for ejecta is always less than >the impact velocity because a lot of energy is used up in >the fireball, vaporizing the impactor, vaporizing a roughly >equal mass of target (Earth!), melting target rocks, and lastly, >fracturing target rocks to be ejected. > >The chances of a piece of ejecta getting kicked up to even >sub-orbital velocity is small, but with this many pieces in >play, it MIGHT happen to a very small number of pieces. So, >no "large quantities of ejecta" would behave as you asked. > >The only real-world example of high speed ejecta is tektites, >which "seem to be" vaporized target rock that condenses into >liquid and cools to a plastic glass very quickly, probably >above the atmosphere. They can travel up to half an Earth >diameter. But that's the only example we have to go by, >and it's mysterious -- why doesn't every impact produce >tektites? > >But for 99.9% of ejecta, it's the same old story everywhere >on every planet. Google up pictures of "ejecta blanket." >http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=ejecta%20blanket&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=967&bih=640 > >Big, blocky chunks just outside the rim, tapering off to >dust at the edges. That's the interesting thing about kinetic >events -- they're all the same. Once you get up to a good >size, the particular characteristics don't matter much. > >In this size of event, an equal weight of impacting ice, or rock, >or iron, or feathers, or rocky road ice cream -- they would >all leave an almost identical crater. All that counts is the >total kinetic energy. > >Objects get blasted off planets. Mars meteorites somehow >got off Mars. Lunar meteorites somehow got off the Moon. >There are even folks who think a chunk of Mercury could >somehow get off Mercury (which chunk is the question). >Moreover, they seem to sometimes do it without being >shocked, possibly by being sucked up the tube of vacuum >formed when the impactor blows through the atmosphere. >No one knows how exactly, but it happens, I suspect, as >a rare event. > >Not to be callous, but an eight-mile crater is a "medium" >impact, with local effects, not regional effects, not continental >effects, not world-threatening effects. But like any explosion, >it is nastier the closer you happen to be to it. > >It could take out about half of the state of Iowa, for example. >Beyond Iowa's borders, damage would be minimal. > >Still, Iowa... > > >Sterling K. Webb > >- Original Message - >From: >To: "Sterling K. Webb" ; "Stuart >McDaniel - Action Shooting Supply" ; >"Thunder Stone" ; > >Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 12:13 AM >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scientist Warns Massive Asteroid >CouldHitEarthin 2182 > > >Sterling, > >With the understanding that the impactor is of the size you described in >your last. > >Could there be significant property damage and human casualties outside >the 100 mile diameter from the fall of matter propelled to great heights >and trajectories? > >Is it plausible that large quantities of ejecta could be propelled into >low earth, rapidly decaying orbits and re-enter to cause significant >secondary impact damage vicariously over the earth? > >Do you think some material could escape the earth's gravity to become >meteoroids? > >Count Deiro >IMCA 3536 > >-Original Message- >>From: "Sterling K. Webb" >>Sent: Jul 28, 2010 11:17 PM >>To: Stuart McDaniel - Action Shooting Supply >>, Thunder Stone >>, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scientist Warns Massive Asteroid Could >>HitEarthin 2182 >> >>List, Stuart, >> >>An eight-mile complex crater with a depth of >>about a half-mile. Will take 100% casualties out to >>about 35 miles and 70% casualties out to 60 miles. >>High-speed ejecta 1 cm and up will reach out to >>about 100 miles. Within the inner 75-mile-diameter >>circle, expect the destruction of almost everything >>and the death of almost everybody. >> >>Even at 60 miles away, the fireball will deliver about >>4 megajoules per square meter for about 3.5 minutes, >>enough to produce deep third degree burns, and >>cause trees and grass
Re: [meteorite-list] Scientist Warns Massive Asteroid Could HitEarthin 2182
Sterling, With the understanding that the impactor is of the size you described in your last. Could there be significant property damage and human casualties outside the 100 mile diameter from the fall of matter propelled to great heights and trajectories? Is it plausible that large quantities of ejecta could be propelled into low earth, rapidly decaying orbits and re-enter to cause significant secondary impact damage vicariously over the earth? Do you think some material could escape the earth's gravity to become meteoroids? Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: "Sterling K. Webb" >Sent: Jul 28, 2010 11:17 PM >To: Stuart McDaniel - Action Shooting Supply , >Thunder Stone , meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scientist Warns Massive Asteroid Could >HitEarthin 2182 > >List, Stuart, > >An eight-mile complex crater with a depth of >about a half-mile. Will take 100% casualties out to >about 35 miles and 70% casualties out to 60 miles. >High-speed ejecta 1 cm and up will reach out to >about 100 miles. Within the inner 75-mile-diameter >circle, expect the destruction of almost everything >and the death of almost everybody. > >Even at 60 miles away, the fireball will deliver about >4 megajoules per square meter for about 3.5 minutes, >enough to produce deep third degree burns, and >cause trees and grass to ignite, as well as wood and >part-wood structures. Masonry structures would >collapse from the overpressure; steel structures >would survive best. > >An ocean strike would form a smaller crater in the >seafloor but the thermal effects would be about the >same (actually a little worse). The tsunami would >be between 250 and 450 feet high. It would be >world-wide, reach far inland in some areas, and >would likely circle the globe more than once. > >Either a land or sea strike would likely result in >comparable damages. Numbers would depend on >the population and structural density of the >area. Middle of the Sahara? Thousands. South >China Coast? Tens of millions. > >Highly unlikely that any of the materials you >might gather after the region of the crater stopped >glowing would be part of the impactor, almost all >of which would vaporize. Terrestrial fragments >would dominate the region. > > >Sterling K. Webb >--- >- Original Message - >From: "Stuart McDaniel - Action Shooting Supply" > >To: "Thunder Stone" ; > >Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 9:03 PM >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scientist Warns Massive Asteroid Could >HitEarthin 2182 > > >Not a mathematician are you?? LOL..it's 172 years. Bet that will >make a nice strewn field!!! > >Stuart McDaniel >Lawndale, NC >Secr., >Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society >- Original Message - >From: "Thunder Stone" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 6:23 PM >Subject: [meteorite-list] Scientist Warns Massive Asteroid Could Hit >Earthin >2182 > > > >Wow - that's only 72 years from now... Don't think I'll be around > >Greg S. > > >http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/07/28/massive-asteroid-hit-earth-warn-scientists/?test=faces > > > >Scientist Warns Massive Asteroid Could Hit Earth in 2182 > >A large asteroid in space that has a remote chance of slamming into the >Earth would be most likely hit in 2182, if it crashed into our planet at >all, a new study suggests. > >The asteroid, called 1999 RQ36, has about a 1-in-1,000 chance of >actually >hitting the Earth, but half of that risk corresponds to potential >impacts in >the year 2182, said study co-author María Eugenia Sansaturio of the >Universidad de Valladolid in Spain. > >Sansaturio and her colleagues used mathematical models to determine the >risk >of asteroid 1999 RQ36 impacting the Earth through the year 2200. They >found >two potential opportunities for the asteroid to hit Earth in 2182. > >The research is detailed in the science journal Icarus. > >The asteroid was discovered in 1999 and is about 1,837 feet (560 meters) >across. A space rock this size could cause widespread devastation at an >impact site in the remote chance that it hit Earth, according to a >recent >report by the National Academy of Sciences. > > >Scientists have tracked asteroid 1999 RQ36's orbit through 290 optical >observations and 13 radar surveys, but there is still some uncertainty >because of the gentle push it receives from the so-called Yarkovsky >effect, >researchers said. > >The Yarkovsky effect, named after the Russian engineer I.O. Yarkovsky >who >proposed it around 1900, describes how an asteroid gains momentum from >thermal radiation that it emits from its night side. Over hundreds of >years, >the effect's influence on an asteroid's orbit could be substantial. > >Sansaturio and her colleagues found that through 2060, the chances of >Earth >impacts from 1999 RQ36 are remote, but the odds increase by a magnitude >of >four by 2080 as the asteroid's orbit brings it closer t
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite 20 Questions - Answer and Share if youDare. :)
Hi List, I forgot to answer if I could have any meteorite from any collection in the world. What would it be? I think I'd like to have the great Wilamette iron stuck on a concrete plinth in the middle of my front lawn. The kids could play on and in it. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite 20 Questions - Answer and Share if youDare. :)
15 months ago. Newbie! A picture I saw in a newspaper of Dr. Donald Brownlee of NASA holding NWA 5000 over his head with both hands and a big smile on his face. I bought my first meteorite from Robert Cucchiara (Meteorite Madness)in May of 2009. A triple cut and etched 2.7 kilo Campo with beautiful even regs and a couple of unusual troilite inclusions. It just jumped out of the monitor and said "pick me! pick me!". One hundred and fifty six. I had to go count them just now. I think some must have mated. Probably a little Fukang going around the meso drawer. I don't mind talking money. It seems popular to do so today. I know how much I spent to the penny for those I purchased, and I can guess as to the value of the few I have received as gifts, and then there is the big chondrite I found which was just appraised. Probably, somewhere between $35,000 and $40,000 in acquisition, so the retail value would, I trust, be higher. A 2.1 gram crusted Nakhla individual with it's original British Museum collection card and release papers that has been keep unmolested-molested in a sterile container accompanied by an attribution letter from another major institution. It's my favorite because I'm hoping one night little green aliens will crawl out of it. Did I! Last May 5th. I went hunting with Sonny Clary in Pahrump Valley 45 minutes from my house in an area he said he had been working for over six years. Stepped out of the truck and limped a couple of hundred yards out into the desert and tripped over a 29 pound LL6 chondrite sticking four inches out of the sand. It was my first find. It turned out to be the largest individual stone meteorite found in Nevada. The Nakhla described above. No ordeals. It has all been a most pleasant experience except for one bump caused by a sobering lack of judgement. Yes. When I set about to polish the half of the big chondrite I found, I got my face right up on it as I was using the 600 grit and didn't realize I was breathing the particles until I coughed and sneezed black soot the next morning. The Countess, who generally eschews any activity I engage in, likes meteorites and the people associated with them. It might have something to do with that gorgeous Lapis Lazuli necklace a Moroccan made for her in Tucson. Not yet...but I can see it in my future. Pick it up with nitrile gloves and put it in sterile container. Pick up all the house debris and store it in bags by type. Call Allstate. Call the firm of Brownlee, Irving, Bunch and Hupe'. Me. No. Say again? I haven't studied enough specimens to have developed a preference. I'm sort of omnivorous at this point in my education. Unintentionally. Yes. I bought 4 mg of original Shergotty and when I opened the membrane box to look at the little "Bessy" specks under the scope they just flat disappeared. I discovered membrane boxes are like minature trampolines. I hope everyone who read these answers knows how happy I would be if they brought a smile, or two. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites as Ammunition
Bill says "...just about any firearm". Just about any muzzle loader with a patched round can eat balls made of meteorite material, or anything else for that matter. It wouldn't surprise me if we learned that some enterprising conquistador had heated up some Campo and used the balls in his matchlock..or a canon. Does anyone care to expound on what temp one would have to heat an iron meteorite to be able to pour the melt into a mold to make a musket ball? Could different classes of irons have different melt temperatures? Would inclusions be easily seperated? Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: bill kies >Sent: Jul 27, 2010 5:33 PM >To: meteoritem...@gmail.com >Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites as Ammunition > > >Projectiles made from meteoric iron and it's related inclusions would destroy >the barrel of just about any firearm. > >Bill > > > > >Hi Count and List, >I wonder, has anyone ever fashioned bullets out of iron meteorites? >Best regards, >MikeG > >On 7/27/10, countdeiro at earthlink.net wrote: >> Attention List! >> meteoritem...@gmail.com > >> Aliens have developed a reliable source of weapons grade meteorites and a >> reliable targeting system. However, it can be defeated if one remains >> indoors. >> >> http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/835482-man-hit-by-six-meteorites-is-being-targeted-by-aliens >> >> >> Count Deiro >> IMCA 3536 >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites as Ammunition
Attention List! Aliens have developed a reliable source of weapons grade meteorites and a reliable targeting system. However, it can be defeated if one remains indoors. http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/835482-man-hit-by-six-meteorites-is-being-targeted-by-aliens Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5363 UNGROUPED OR BRACHNITE
Mr. Hughes, Welcome to the List. I loved the picture you drew of a beautiful girl and her toilet habits. An older member of my family once helped me get over my youthful obsession with a certain brunette using the same example. Give the List a chance. It is many things to many people. Read, enjoy and learn more of what interests you...and hit delete for the rest, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Barry Hughes >Sent: Jul 25, 2010 4:41 AM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5363 UNGROUPED OR BRACHNITE > >On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 4:37 AM, Barry Hughes wrote: >> You can see...I don't know this. I do know that research for new and >> old find is utmost importance..I can understand that. >> I don't know the particulars and should maybe keep my mouth shut, but >> I can tell you that for the uninformed, this bickering is not the best >> thing for the new collector. >> The List should maybe be something someone follows later in their hobby >> ...like finally learning your beautiful girlfriend does actually >> take a shit sometimes...:) >> >> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:02 AM, MEM wrote: >>> >>> >>> - Original Message >>> >>> The people about to make a lot of money..or not..don't paint a pretty >>> picture >>> here... >>> Is this what the list is about? >>> >>> >>> Nope. Nor is it what the thread is about. >>> Money could be an artifact of the outcome but the issue of scientific >>> pairing is >>> two fold: >>> Paring legitimizes interchangeable research using a sample from either >>> stone. >>> Pairing does not skew the data plots for composition/chemistry/etc by >>> counting a >>> sample more than once. >>> ( I know this will shock some here to learn that meteorites are not just >>> fashionable collectibles but are in-fact used in scientific research--Who'd >>> a >>> thought, eah?) >>> >>> The converse is that uninformed and unscientific "visual pairing" does not >>> satisfy the requirements of the above needs. >>> >>> On the commercial issue, it is a long and costly process to do meteorite >>> petrology-- most always paid for by one of the owners. To be paired the >>> chemistry/petrology of all named meteorites must be researched to establish >>> compelling evidence of pairing. Exceptions: a meteorite fall on a area >>> known to >>> contain no other meteorites, the stream of visually identical debris which >>> is >>> recovered in a short time, or the stones can be physically matched--these >>> can be >>> presumed to be paired unless tere is evidence to the contrary. >>> >>> Claims of pairing which are not scientifically validated is akin to >>> plagerizing >>> and is taking both scientific and commercial value from another who did go >>> through the process. >>> >>> >>> In "reverse pairing" or "unpairing" there is one atrocity that I still am >>> disgusted over: a meteorite find was recovered over an area. It was >>> entirely >>> reassembled to compose a complete meteorite: known as the "meteorite >>> puzzle". >>> This is the only known case in history. Were it kept together, a lot of >>> research >>> could have been done-- cosmic ray penetration, shear stress, understanding >>> why a >>> particular meteorite fragmented into 17 pieces, and etc. But some >>> self-styled >>> meteorte dealer wannabe--(wait maybe this was while he was a non dealer? >>> Nope! >>> This was while a dealer)--whatever-- he so "loves" meteorites being >>> "shared" >>> that he bought the Puzzle for his collection-- never to ever sell it he >>> assured >>> the seller. Then he promptly put all 17 pieces on ebay as individual >>> auctions >>> to be sold to 17 different buyers--DESTROYING the scientific rarity. >>> >>> >>> Elton >>> >>> >> >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Springwater 52 Kilo main mass in the news!
Congratulations Robert and Shauna. What a beautiful piece of the cosmos! Mike sold me a a half dozen grams in Tucson. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Robert Ward >Sent: Jul 21, 2010 9:54 PM >To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: [meteorite-list] Springwater 52 Kilo main mass in the news! > >Hello list, The 52 Kilo main mass of the Springwater pallasite found >by Shauna and I has recently been cut by the Royal Ontario Museum and >was publicly announced by the R.O.M. today. We did a news interview in >Tucson this morning, some of that footage can be seen in this link. >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avs-pmcEplE >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Be Careful - It is hot!
Living and working in the middle of one of the hottest and most dessicated deserts in the world for the past fifty years..The Great Mohave..I'd like to throw my hundred dollars worth into the thread. "Only mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun." Noel Coward...1930's...if I'm not mistaken. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Mark Bowling >Sent: Jul 15, 2010 11:32 AM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Be Careful - It is hot! > >Bring plenty of water and travel in multple vehicles... And before staying in >a >hotel like that, make sure they are one of the ones that can provide >some additional portable A/C units to help cool your room! > >Happy hunting, >Mark B. >Vail, AZ > > >- Original Message >From: Adam Hupe >To: Adam >Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 7:36:42 AM >Subject: [meteorite-list] Be Careful - It is hot! > >Dear List Members, > >For those who are thinking about hunting the Mojave this time of year, be >prepared to hunt at night when it cools down to around 100 degrees. They never >report accurate temperatures on the news here in the Summer because it is bad >for tourism. There is only one temperature gauge that is not buried >underground > >in the Laughlin/Bullhead City area and it read an astonishing 130 degrees >yesterday at 1:30 pm, not even the hottest part of the day which is around >4:00 >pm. The sign was in the shade so I can only imagine how hot it would be in >the >sun. My engine temperature gauge was registering 140 degrees before I even >started the "cold" engine that had not been run since the day before! > >Image of sign I passed yesterday at 1:30 pm: >http://themeteoritesite.com/130Degrees.jpg > >Best Regards, > >Adam >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Trends with WI Fall and alike for July
David is so right when he says "We are not entitled to a certain price." This thread has drawn some pretty inane comments. Most are based on the question of why buyers have been unsuccssful in influencing sellers to offer their meteorites at lower prices. Particularly fresh offerings. What is it about a free market system that isn't broadly understood? Nobody has a gun to anyone's head to buy, or sell! The item becomes available. The seller asks a price. His price. There are no rules he has to follow. He offers it. You like it...you want it...then pay his price. If the price is too high for you then don't buy it. If enough buyers elect not to buy at the price offered...guess what? The price will come down. It's called, as David also said, "supply and demand." Lets not try to argue the unarguable. It's maddening! Best, Count Deiro IMCA -Original Message- >From: Greg Stanley >Sent: Jul 1, 2010 5:25 PM >To: dr...@emersonhosp.org, star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com, Mike >, mike >Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, photoph...@yahoo.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Trends with WI Fall and alike for July > > >List: > >What if during the next fall nobody pays the $100/gm price, then it will come >down until people buy it. I know that will be hard to do, but the consumer >can dictate the price. Although, there is the chance the sellers will not >sell for less, then they have to keep them... the price will eventually come >down, I would think. > >Oh well... it's all part of the hobby. > >Greg S. > > >> From: dr...@emersonhosp.org >> To: star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com; fuzzf...@comcast.net; >> meteoritem...@gmail.com >> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 20:42:09 + >> CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; photoph...@yahoo.com >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Trends with WI Fall and alike for July >> >> Again, it is a matter of supply and demand and whether an individual >> collector is willing to pay the price. The TKW for the WI fall is currently >> low, but that wasn't known when the $100/gm prices were being charged. >> Reports that the material was being bought from landownwers at $10/gm or >> less don't help the feeling among collectors that they were/are being >> gouged, but then it is an individual's choice to buy or not to buy. Nobody >> likes to feel that they are being taken advantage of, but if that is the way >> it feels, don't buy (I know that's hard!) >> >> As a collector, I don't like the price trends either, particularly when old, >> historic falls with museum provenance are sometimes cheaper per gram, but >> there is no "right" level for a fall, we are not entitled to a certain >> price. The market will decide. >> >> Best regards, >> David >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com >> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Greg >> Catterton >> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 4:05 PM >> To: Mike Bandli; Galactic Stone & Ironworks >> Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Shawn Alan >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Trends with WI Fall and alike for July >> >> The WI fall was a strange one. I think too many people were trying to get >> rich of others. >> Before anyone comes at me with the numbers of the trip, I know and I >> understand, but at the same time, it can be done for much less. >> >> When I see reports of the landowners selling the stones for less then $10 >> per gram (I know of several who would not pay more the $3 per gram!)and then >> see them selling it for $100/g or more, thats just too much... >> >> Why do you think the 2 kg stone was hushed up so much? I have seen pics of >> it, so have many others and yet nobody wants to act like it exists and >> people still call a 330g stone the main mass when in reality, its far from >> the main mass. >> >> I dont like the trend with new falls and the prices that go with them, its >> taking advantage of collectors. Thats the whole reason I sold my WI material >> at $60 or less when others were still getting $100 or more... and I got many >> mean emails filled with profanity over putting that price public... Why? >> They knew they it would hurt the value. I did not sell it for that to do >> that, I did it because its not worth any more then that, and anyone who says >> it is, I ask again, why? >> >> There is likely 10kg or more of the fall, its not rare by any means. >> >> Sure there is a price to pay for those that cant make it to the fall site, >> but when is it too much? >> >> >> Greg Catterton >> www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com >> IMCA member 4682 >> On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites >> On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites >> >> >> --- On Thu, 7/1/10, Galactic Stone & Ironworks wrote: >> >>> From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Trends with WI Fall and alike for July >>> To: "Mike Bandli" >>
Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera
Yeah. Darren. Looks like you have a Trojan on those chondrite photos. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Richard Kowalski >Sent: Jul 6, 2010 7:34 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, cyna...@charter.net >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera > >Hey Darren, > >when I try to access your page my anti-virus blocks the page reporting the >recognition of the pattern for the HTML/Crypted.Gen HTML script virus. > >You might want to check your site and anyone who accessed the page may want to >check their machine too. > > >-- >Richard Kowalski >Full Moon Photography >IMCA #1081 > > >--- On Tue, 7/6/10, Darren Garrison wrote: > >> From: Darren Garrison >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera >> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 4:53 PM >> On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:46:02 -0700, >> you wrote: >> >> >I've been thinking of getting one of these for a while. >> Has anybody used this for taking pics of micros and larger >> slices of meteorites? Is the cheaper 1.3 mp a better deal? >> > >> >> I have a 1.3 megapixel version, with only 4 LED lights >> (paid more than the price >> for the one you linked.) There was a thread about it >> on the list at the time. >> I put up some photos taken with it here: >> >> http://www.angelfire.com/d20/darren_garrison/index.htm >> >> (Photos tweaked in software in post.) >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] THE FOURTH OF JULY
LIST, TO ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS AND THEIR FOREIGN FRIENDS AND ASSOCIATES WHO CHERISH PERSONAL LIBERTY. JOIN WITH US IN CELEBRATION OF THE FOUNDING OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY WHERE WE ALL CAN FREELY PURSUE OUR INTEREST IN METEORITES. ENJOY A HAPPY FOURTH OF JULY! COUNT DEIRO IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OR man finds meteorite on roadside 11yrs ago
Hi Joe and Listees, Actually, I did read of this find some time ago. I can't recall where, or when, but at the time I didn't know anything about meteorites. As I remember, the story stated that this gentleman had been driving along a logging access road that had been improved by blading and graveling when he saw a rock that was too large in the roadway. He got out and picked it up to throw it out of the way when he noticed it was heavy and different from the other rocks and gravel, so he kept it. I recall that many years later he had been told it was probably a meteorite and that it had evidentally been part of a load of gravel that had been trucked in from some other area to dress the road. What I read didn't speculate on it's terrestrial, or cosmic age, as I recall. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Joe Kerchner >Sent: May 30, 2010 1:44 PM >To: meteorite list >Subject: [meteorite-list] OR man finds meteorite on roadside 11yrs ago > >Here is a link to a story of an OR man finding a meteorite on the roadside >11ys ago and after wathching a show on meteorites took it to get tested and it >turns out to be a meteorite that landed between 200 and 800 years ago. They >said it was pristine, I think if it would have landed that long ago in OR it >would have been quite weathered. Also I dont see it sitting on the roadside >for very long, unless it is an unmarked road used for farming or something. > Anyone heard anything more on this? > >http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Meteorite-found-along-Ore-road-estimated-at-45-billion-years-old-95216014.html > > Best Wishes, >Joe Kerchner >http://illinoismeteorites.com >http://skyrockcafe.com > > > > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] More Photos of the Strange NWA stones
Hello Greg..List, Does Number 8 look like a Vigarano to anyone else? Hard to see that cut face, but it looks like a C and those could be a few CAI's. Number 3 still looks like... just maybe.. a planetary. I know there's not enough visible to make any sense, but it's fun to speculate. Thanks, Greg for sharing... and if you're paying for sections you must suspect something. Do let us know. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Greg Catterton >Sent: May 26, 2010 2:28 AM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: [meteorite-list] More Photos of the Strange NWA stones > >http://www.hostingphpbb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=333&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=&mforum=wwwmeteoritesto > >I uploaded good and detailed photos of the strange NWA meteorites that arrived >recently. I will be updating the testing progress on that thread for those >that want to comment of follow along. > > >Greg Catterton >www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com >IMCA member 4682 >On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites > > > > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] EoM webservice
Hello to Sergei, Martin, MikeG & Listees, Yes! Many thanks to all who continue with the work of providing educational resources free to all the community. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks >Sent: May 23, 2010 1:25 PM >To: karm...@email.de >Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] EoM webservice > >Hi Sergei, Martin and List, > >I second Martin's comments. The Encyclopedia of Meteorites is a >valuable resource to the meteorite community. Thanks to Pierre-Marie >Pele for creating the original site. And thanks to Sergei and the >IMCA for updating the interface and implementing many new features. > >It is very informative (and fun) to browse through the collections and >look at the various specimens residing in cabinets around the world. >:) > >Best regards and happy collecting! > >MikeG > >http://www.galactic-stone.com > > > >On 5/23/10, karm...@email.de wrote: >> Hello Sergey, >> >> I think it's high time to say THANK YOU VERY MUCH >> for what you do for the meteorite collecting community. >> I think I can say on behalf of all of us that we deeply appreciate >> your efforts. Keep up the good work! >> >> Best regards >> Martin >> >> >> >> >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >> Von: Sergey Vasiliev >> Gesendet: 23.05.2010 13:23:09 >> An: "meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral. Com" >> >> Betreff: [meteorite-list] EoM webservice >> >>>Hello List, >>> >>>This information is for the website developers who are using server >>> technologies (PHP, ASP). >>> >>>I created a webservice which gets the data from EoM database and you are >>> welcome to use it! >>>http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/EoMWebService.asmx >>> >>>Examples: >>>http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/testEoMWebservice.aspx >>> >>>So far there are only three functions but if someone need something else, >>> just let me know and I will add it! >>> >>>Best regards, >>>Sergey >>>- >>>Sergey Vasiliev >>>U Dalnice 2684/1 >>>Prague 5, 155 00 >>>Czech Republic >>>--- >>>http://www.sv-meteorites.com >>>http://impactites.net >>>http://systematic-mineralogy.com >>> >>>__ >>>Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>>Meteorite-list mailing list >>>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > >-- > >Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites >http://www.galactic-stone.com >http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - New Collector Rock TRADE
Hi Ryan and welcome! If you have any impact breccia, shocked quartz or shatter cones and you knew where the specimens were collected, you'll get a lot of action on List. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Ryan Weidert >Sent: May 22, 2010 3:03 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - New Collector Rock TRADE > >Hi All, > I sent this out last week and had a few replys (Thanks!) and >thought I'd try it one more time. I've been reading the list for a few >months now and finally thought I may have something to offer (albeit >somewhat self-centered). Im a new collector of meteorites, and am >looking to trade mineral specimens for meteorites or related things to >bolster my tiny collection. Im a geologist, and have been an avid >rockhound for the last 10 years of my 25. That said, I have a literal >ton of rocks and I figured that since this list deals with meteorites, >I should try and offer things that are more related to space rocks >than not. Im simply looking to swap some of my extra rocks for some of >your extra space rocks. I know meteorites are or can be expensive, so >im willing to trade what you think is fair. If you are looking for >some specific mineral/rock, ask and I may have a sample or two >somewhere. Email me at ryan.weidert at gmail.com if interested or have >any questions. I'd be glad to answer them (if I can haha)! >Thanks! Have a Great Weekend! >~ Ryan Weidert > >I have the following Earth rocks up for trade: > >All Photos- >http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii66/no-limitation/Rock%20Trade%20for%20Meteorites/ >) > >Olivine Nodules (volcanic bombs) - the same mineral in those beautiful >pallasites except from the Earths mantle, 30+ miles down! >- whole with basalt crust >- broken exposing crystals >- numerous large fragments >- cut pieces upon request > >Olivine Sand (crushed and screened nodules) >- <1mm unsorted >- 1-2mm unsorted >- 2-4mm unsorted >- 3-5mm hand picked "apple green" crystals. >- 2-3mm hand sorted "apple green" crystals. > >Moqui Marbles - Spherical (or nearly so) hematite concretions formed >within sandstone. >- "Classic" newbie meteorwrongs > >Obsidian Nodules >- "Classic" newbie meteorwrongs >- Some have nice "regmaglypys" > > >Other rocks... > >Cleavelandite (Albite - a fledspar) >- Large specimens (most over 10cm x 10cm >- Many with mica > >Quartz Crystals >- A few larger ones (~5x10cm) >- Opaque to near crystal clear > >Geodes - Hauser Beds, Southern California >- Uncut 'nodules' up too 8cm across. >- note, some may not be hollow inside. >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?
Steve, James and Listees, Steve and James mentioned intelligence. Very important. Interpreting Mars source data that might promote a "vita" hypothesis requires intelligence. Curious. With all the academics we have on List, how many are Mensans? The only criteria for membership is to have a demonstrated IQ in the top two percentile. If 100 adults took a Stanford-Binet, or Cattell, or the proctored Mensa Weschler exam...the prospective Mensan would score first, or second. An IQ of 144 places one in the genius range. Only .013% of the world's population scores above 144. Having a very high IQ does not guarantee you'll be smart about everything, or get rich, or make lasting relationships. In fact, it can be a real detriment to accomplishing anything. One of the pleasant things about having a genius level IQ is that people very seldom have to explain to you what their talking about. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: James Balister >Sent: May 22, 2010 2:34 PM >To: "meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? > >Bout the same as mine Steve! > > > >- Original Message >> From: Steve Witt >> To: James Balister >> Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 1:33:00 PM >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? >> >> James, > >Mine is 165, is that close enough? Let's have at >> it. > >Steve > > >Steve Witt >IMCA >> #9020 >http://imca.cc/ > > >--- On Sat, 5/22/10, James Balister <> ymailto="mailto:balisterja...@att.net"; >> href="mailto:balisterja...@att.net";>balisterja...@att.net> >> wrote: > >> From: James Balister <> ymailto="mailto:balisterja...@att.net"; >> href="mailto:balisterja...@att.net";>balisterja...@att.net> >> >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? >> To: "> ymailto="mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com"; >> href="mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com";>meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" >> >> <> >> href="mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com";>meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> >> >> Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 1:29 PM >> Son, when your IQ approaches >> mine, >> then we will argue. >> >> >> >> - >> Original Message >> > From: JoshuaTreeMuseum <> ymailto="mailto:joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com"; >> href="mailto:joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com";>joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com> >> >> > To: > >> > href="mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com";>meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> >> > Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 1:24:19 PM >> > Subject: [meteorite-list] >> Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: >> ET? >> > >> > Buildings on >> Mars??!!?? Shades of Dr. Edgar >> Mitchell! James, you're >> > >> sort of inviting abuse when you come on the metlist >> with such wacko >> ideas. >> > I'm suprised at the restraint shown by all the >> well >> mannered listoids! Also your >> > credibility would be >> vastly improved if you invested >> in a dictionary, or used >> > >> any of the several available online. How would NASA >> believe this >> >> > nuttiness, when they don't even believe in the >> evidence >> for magneto >> > bacterial micro fossils supposedly found in >> Martian >> meteorites? >> >> Even >> > though I find >> such delusional thinking highly >> entertaining, (I love the >> > >> blood vessels in meteorites guy!), surely you can't be >> serious? >> >> >> >> Phil >> > Whitmer >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives >> >> > at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> >> Meteorite-list >> > mailing list >> > href="mailto:> ymailto="mailto:Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com"; >> href="mailto:Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com";>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com">> >> ymailto="mailto:Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com"; >> href="mailto:Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com";>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at > >> href="http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html"; >> target=_blank >> >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> > ymailto="mailto:Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com"; >> href="mailto:Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com";>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> >> > >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listi
Re: [meteorite-list] Check this meteorite out
List and Greg, Planetary? Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Greg Catterton >Sent: May 22, 2010 11:46 AM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: [meteorite-list] Check this meteorite out > >Not a fresh fall, but this stone is awesome! >http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4716.jpg >http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4718.jpg > >I am also wondering what your thoughts are on this one: >http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4750.jpg >http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4757.jpg >http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4746.jpg > >Hope everyone is doing well! > > >Greg Catterton >www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com >IMCA member 4682 >On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites > > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: May 17-21, 2010
Hi Ron and List, Ron, I have meant to thank you for months over your generosity and efforts posting the high resolution pics of Mars. What a resource and teaching aid. It's as if one is taking a semester of Martian geography. I look at my Martian specimens with a different point of view. For the List...Can you imagine the numbers and types of meteorites to be found on those endless vegetation free flats and dunes? What is it now? Three kilo+ specimens the Rovers have stumbled over? Could they be from Earth? Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Ron Baalke >Sent: May 21, 2010 12:44 PM >To: Meteorite Mailing List >Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: May 17-21, 2010 > > >MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES >May 17-21, 2010 > >o Syrtis Planum Landslide (17 May 2010) > http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100517a > >o North Polar Dunes (18 May 2010) > http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100518a > >o Cydonia Mensae (19 May 2010) > http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100519a > >o Moreaux Crater Dunes (20 May 2010) > http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100520a > >o Ganges Chasma (21 May 2010) > http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100521a > > >All of the THEMIS images are archived here: > >http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html > >NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission >for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission >Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, >Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. >The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State >University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor >for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission >operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a >division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. > > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ruben and Hopper in the NEWS
Ruben, I like your laid back style. Your knowledge and experience is obvious to the viewer. Carefully closing that livestock gate upon entering and leaving, along with Hopper being kept on a lead, was smart, as you know it will make a good impression on property owners who view this production. My compliments, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Joe Kerchner >Sent: May 18, 2010 8:47 AM >To: meteorite list >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ruben and Hopper in the NEWS > >Congrats Ruben, great job. > > >Best Wishes, >Joe Kerchner >http://illinoismeteorites.com >http://skyrockcafe.com > > > >- Original Message >From: Ruben Garcia >To: Meteorite List >Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 1:37:02 AM >Subject: [meteorite-list] Ruben and Hopper in the NEWS > >Hi all, > >Hopper and I had barely returned from Wisconsin when we were asked to >film a segment for the local news. Although, we didn't find anything >we had great time filming. Later that day we interviewed with the >largest newspaper in the state. The video showed here locally but the >actual article still hasn't hit the stands. From what I hear it will >be a large article in the Arizona Republic and should include my good >friends Laurence Garvie and Marc Fries. (I hope it includes them, >otherwise it won't be very good...lol) > >Thanks to Darrin Garrison and Mike Bandli for helping me with the >video download! > >Here is the link for those that want to see it. >http://www.mr-meteorite.net/rubenhopperinnews.htm > > >-- >Rock On! > >Ruben Garcia > >Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net >Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ >Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] My meteorites on Youtube
Really fine presentation. They sell themselves, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Richard Kowalski >Sent: May 17, 2010 9:24 PM >To: Meteorite Mailing List , Marcin >Cimala - PolandMET >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] My meteorites on Youtube > >Beautiful Marcin. >-- >Richard Kowalski >Full Moon Photography >IMCA #1081 > > >--- On Mon, 5/17/10, Marcin Cimala - PolandMET wrote: > >> From: Marcin Cimala - PolandMET >> Subject: [meteorite-list] My meteorites on Youtube >> To: "Meteorite Mailing List" >> Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 4:59 PM >> Hello >> > From long time I wanted to make a video documentation >> of my specimens (main >> masses) before they needed to be cut into slices. Tooday I >> decided that its time to start this experiment. >> >> I made several (i hope) good 360* movies with specimens >> from my collection and my unclassified main masses that >> still waiting and waiting for their NWA numbers. From other >> side its good that their classifications takes soo long, >> becousese in other case, they will be in slices long time >> ago. >> >> Please, send me Your opinions, comments and remarks about >> my videos. In near future I want make more movies with more >> efects and ofcourse longer. If someone can turn off this >> rain over europe, I plan even make some in field movies :) >> I use my new Panasonic Lumix TZ7 with HD movies and very >> simple, but good AVS Video Editor. >> >> Please visit my Youtube account (10 movies) >> http://www.youtube.com/user/Polandmet#g/u >> >> >> -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- >> http://www.Meteoryty.pl >> marcin(at)meteoryty.pl >> http://www.PolandMET.com >> marcin(at)polandmet.com >> http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 >> (793) 567667 >> [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] WI - Weight per Mile -HAPPY BIRTHDAY GREG!
Happy Birthday, Greg Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: michael cottingham >Sent: May 16, 2010 1:17 PM >To: gmh...@htn.net, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] WI - Weight per Mile -HAPPY BIRTHDAY GREG! > > >HAPPY BIRTHDAY -Greg! >Can't remember if it was yesterday or today... but Happy Birthday none the >less. >Best Wishes >Michael Cottingham > > >> From: gmh...@htn.net >> To: voyagebotan...@hotmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] WI - Weight per Mile >> Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 13:13:15 -0400 >> >> Hey All, >> >> In 17 days of hunting I hiked maybe 250 miles, found two stones with a >> combined weight of 64 grams. So basically 125 miles per stone or 3.90 grams >> per mile! ;-) Like Joe had mentioned about wanting to take something home in >> addition to his 332g find, in his case photos, I spent one cold and rainy >> morning digging local Galena crystals at a road cut for a couple hours. One >> of the local hunters had told us about this collection spot. I used one of >> the crystals as a scale cube in my images of the WI slices I made available >> last week. I went through several dozen to find one that measured 1cm on >> almost all sides. I thought it would be a fun touch to go with a local WI >> theme. >> >> I tried to get a good photo of those eagles Joe posted, no where near as >> good as Joe's beautiful photos! >> >> Hope everyone is having a great day! >> >> Best regards, >> Greg >> >> >> Greg Hupe >> The Hupe Collection >> NaturesVault (eBay) >> gmh...@htn.net >> www.LunarRock.com >> IMCA 3163 >> >> Click here for my current eBay auctions: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "michael cottingham" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 12:58 PM >> Subject: [meteorite-list] correction.. 4 stones not 3 >> >> >> >> Hello, >> Oops! I actually found 4 stones, for an average of 56 miles per stone... now >> that is better! >> Best Wishes >> Michael Cottingham >> _ >> The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. >> http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2877 - Release Date: 05/16/10 >> 02:26:00 >> > >_ >Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. >http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Zodiacal glow revisited
Zodiacal, according to Webster's is pronounced in four syllables phonetically: ZO DIE AH CAL The "cal " like in California (not like Arnold). Count Deiro UMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Meteorites USA >Sent: May 16, 2010 1:23 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Zodiacal glow revisited > >Just currious, and perhaps I'm not the only one with this question. How >do you pronounce "zodiacal"? > >Regards, >Eric > > > >On 5/16/2010 10:15 AM, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: >> Hello All, >> >> In mid-April we discussed the source of the zodiacal glow. I just wanted to >> let >> you know that there is an imformative article in the "News Notes" section of >> the >> June 2010, Sky& Telescope issue, p. 16. >> >> Two things, in particular, caught my attention: >> >> 1. The short-period comets turn out to account for virtually all of the >> zodiacal light >> >> 2. The zodiacal light is the brightest thing in the solar system after the >> Sun >> (as viewed from a great distance), outshining even Venus. >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Bernd >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wisconsin Appreciation
Just a suggestion to Listees who made the trip and participated in the hunt in Wisconsin. Seeing as how so many of us were given the opportunity to engage in one of the more exciting and rewarding activities of our hobby and businesses because of the hospitality of a small group of townsfolk and farmers in "real" America, wouldn't it be gracious on our part to take out a page in the newspapers and send a release to the local TV/Radio stations thanking all from us as a group? Perhaps, someone on the List has another suggestion of a way to show our thanks and appreciation? It would be a sterling gesture and I'm sure our visit would be pleasantly remembered for years to our enduring benefit, unlike some infamous incidents where hunter/collectors have been told by the locals to "pack up your stuff and never come back". P.S. I'm aware that several Listees went out of their way to do presentations at schools and buy rounds of drinke, etc.. Good on ya! Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] So excited! I just got my little slice of Wisconsin!
Me too. Nice crusted 2 grams. Bold breccciation. Thanks, Joe -Original Message- >From: Elizabeth Warner >Sent: May 7, 2010 2:36 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: [meteorite-list] So excited! I just got my little slice of >Wisconsin! > >Hi Joe, > >Thank you!! I just got my 4g slice of Wisconsin. It is beautiful, has >some very nice crust... Got to show it off here in the office! > >Clear Skies! >Elizabeth >adastra...@gmail.com >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ETs (EXTREME TYPES) Already Here!
Dirk and List, What strikes me as a layman after listening to Kirsh on extremophiles (thank you for the link, Dirk) is that she and her associates in the field of astrobiology, by their studies of the molecular processes in these life forms, are admitting to that life survives extreme environments. These scientists run all over the earth finding biomorphs in salt mines and lakes and the deep, all the while wishing they had samples from other planets and moons, yet they almost studiously avoid the examination of Martian and Lunar meteorites. Is this a condition of funding? Or a turf battle that prevents an exchange between the disciplines? I'm in the McKay camp up to my eyeballs. Especially after the recent NASA paper on the findings of biomorphs beautifully exposed in Nakhla. not to mention AH840001. I kept waiting through her lecture to hear the word meteorite. Nada. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: drtanuki >Sent: May 6, 2010 1:08 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: [meteorite-list] ETs (EXTREME TYPES) Already Here! > >Dear List, > Posted are 6/6 videos on the topic: > >posted on YouTube by CarnegieInstitution —(418 views) 2009年06月19日 > >— Adrienne Kish is an astrobiologist with an interest in the microbiology and >molecular biology of extremophiles exposed to the types of environmental >conditions found on planetary bodies such as Mars and the icy moons of Jupiter >and Saturn. > > life in water inside salt crystals > antibiotic resistant bacteria > what is a lifeform > depending upon and thriving not just surviving in extremes > > >http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2010/05/ets-are-already-here-7may2010.html > >Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Large Fireball observed on 6MAY2010 in Argentina
>From what I can translate the Secretary of the Astronomy Society of Argentina >said that the meteor was " ..the size of a fist traveling from West to East at >an altitude of 100 kilometers..." It was visible over several hundred square miles. This area has a lot of nice flat accessible farm land and beaucoup people, so if it were larger and produced any meteorites we will hear about it. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: drtanuki >Sent: May 6, 2010 12:04 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Global Meteor Observing Forum > >Subject: [meteorite-list] Large Fireball observed on 6MAY2010 in Argentina > >Dear List, > Hot off of the wire: > >http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2010/05/argentina-large-fireball-6may2010-just.html > >Dirk Ross...Tokyo >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] pics of slices coming in the AM,
For God's sake Joe, Quit apologizing for doing what you want to do with your own find. You didn't steal it, or con somebody out of it, you put your sweat and treasure into finding it legally and above board. It's yours and I resent what you are being put through because of your honestly and openly telling us about the find and your decision as to it's disposition. I hope you and your boys had a wonderful time together pulling off a successful hunt and that it will always be happily remembered. I personally thank you for making it possible for those of us who couldn't afford the time, or the money, to hunt the fall to have an opportunity to purchase a specimen at a reasonable price. When I hold I hold it in my hands, I will think of it's origin, it's journey through time and space to the earth and you and your children being the ecstatic finders. You took some of the meteorite from your hand and put it in mine so I could share. Thank you. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Joe Kerchner >Sent: May 3, 2010 2:45 AM >To: meteorite list >Subject: [meteorite-list] pics of slices coming in the AM, > >Sorry for the delay, I got very very busy today and was not around last night. >Ill post the pics of the slices in the AM. >I got it sliced even tho a couple list members tried very hard to stop it, a >couple even contacted the University that was going to do it for me and >complained, caused a big stink and got people in trouble for offering to help. >People need to get out there and find their own pieces, and then they can >worry about cutting it or not cutting it. After they walk nearly 200 miles and >hunt for over 100hrs and spend lots of money on the hunt. Then we will see >what they want to do with their only find. > For me I wanted really bad to keep a piece, that find meant a whole lot to > me, but I am not able to afford to keep the entire piece in my collection, I > am struggling for $$ right now being laid off and having 4 kids. I need the > $$ but really want to keep a piece of it. The only way to do that is to have > it sliced. >I am sure there will be a larger piece found, if not already. I know of >another 300+gr stone found already. > > Best Wishes, >Joe Kerchner >http://illinoismeteorites.com >http://skyrockcafe.com > > > > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD; wisconsin slices - was $60 per gram AD
Hi Jason, Joe, List, I just bought one of Joe's slices and I'm happy as a pig in a corn field cause I couldn't go to Wisconsin, and now when I get a piece of the fall, thanks to Joe, I'll feel I've participated in the whole well publicized and documented adventure. I'll look at it and get a huge endorphin hit when I think of it's journey from it's parent body through time and space and the atmosphere to be found at Joe's feet and sent oninto my hand. Thank you, Joe. Man's interest, fascination, love and obsession with meteorites is...well... complicated. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Jason Utas >Sent: Apr 29, 2010 11:59 PM >To: Joe Kerchner , Meteorite-list > >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD; wisconsin slices - was $60 per gram AD > >Hello Joe, >I'm sorry - I'm not offended by it, but...to be frank, I don't >understand why a collector would cut up a beautiful stone. >If I needed cash and wanted to chase down a fall, I would still go >with the knowledge that my finds would be off-limits. >Worst came to worst, I would try to sell it intact...and I don't know >what offers you got, if any, but...to turn around so quickly and cut >it simply isn't something I understand. >But that's just me. >I know that if I had a family, I might have to think differently, >but...I hope I never have to make that choice. > >I just don't understand your use of "$60/g" and "priceless" in >sequential emails. > >It's that sort of talk that's almost...well, it's marketing. So it seems. > >I understand that you're thinking differently than at least some >dealers now, but...chasing down falls for the money of it has been >such a common theme recently that I felt as though I should say >something. I can remember the days when a select few dealers would >hunt a fall down, and collectors would never sell the prized >individuals that they managed to purchase (and if a collector managed >to *find* a stone...good luck prying it from their cold, dead >fingers). And yet, with Ash Creek and this new fall, so many hunters >have gone only to find a small stone or two - and they turn around and >sell them before they've even dried them off... > >It just seems as though very few people are doing it for the love of >it anymore. It's a completely new market dynamic, and I'm not sure I >like it, for what it says about how all of these new folks value these >rocks from space. > >I know, I know. There are easier ways to make money, and the fact >that many people *choose* to do so by selling meteorites just goes to >show the degree to which they love them. > >There are also ways to make money that don't involve cutting up >beautiful meteorites. And there are other things that people can >collect without having as destructive an influence on the things that >they profess to love... > >Regards, >Jason > >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Jason Utas >> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:53 PM >> To: Meteorite-list >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD; wisconsin slices - was $60 per gram AD >> >> Hello Greg, All, >> >> First-off, congrats to Joe - hell of a find. >> >> But I really don't understand what you bring up, Greg. If it's your >> dream to find one, and you finally do, you don't cut it up and sell it >> three days later. >> >> The story reminds me of quite a few, to be honest: dealer chases down >> new fall/find, finds it, cuts it up, sells it. >> >> So, I agree - spectacular find, but...well, it *was* a pretty stone. >> Now it's a pile of slices waiting to be shipped. It was his dream to >> go and find a stone, and then to cut it up and sell it all to make a >> few thousand dollars? >> If I owned a slice (and I'm not planning on buying one), I wouldn't >> look down at it thinking "this is a piece of the realization of one's >> man dream," because all it got him in the end was $60/g. >> >> I don't know about you, but I consider my dreams to be worth more than >> that, and it would cost a hell of a lot more for you to get me to sell >> them. >> >> You're treating it like it's a business. Calling it something else >> seems strange -- and calling it priceless...all this sentimental talk >> from someone who just sliced up a beautiful stone strikes me as a >> little funny. >> >> I'll take it quietly while a dealer dices with no pretext [to make >> money], but thisthis annoys me significantly more. >> >> Is it really the dream of most people out there to simply find a new >> fall for the cash in it? Are meteorite enthusiasts on the whole >> really coming to that? >> >> I feel as though this message might give the wrong impression - I >> can't begin to convey how happy I am for Joe and his truly spectacular >> find, but what I'm seeing is the exact opposite of what I would expect >> from someone who just found the meteorite of his or her dreams...and >> it's beyond disappointing to me if this is really what meteorite >> hunters hope to do with their 'dream finds...' >> >> Jason >> >> On Thu,
Re: [meteorite-list] green mineral in WI meteorite
Probably one of the newly classified E2's. You know..the ones with the emeralds. :o) Seriously...congratulations. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Joe Kerchner >Sent: Apr 28, 2010 9:07 PM >To: meteorite list >Subject: [meteorite-list] green mineral in WI meteorite > > I took off a very small little chip from my 332gr WI meteorite. I them > examined the fresh matrix with a loupe and notice some sort of green mineral, > it is a crystal of some sort, I never seen this before in a meteorite, it > could be common, I just never seen it before. If I had a decent camera I > would get a photo of it to show everyone. I cant wait to see it sliced up. I > am very curious now, even more than before. > Is this common? Does anyone know what it could be? Has anyone else noticed > this in a slice, fragment or broken surface? > > Best Wishes, >Joe Kerchner >http://illinoismeteorites.com >http://skyrockcafe.com > > > > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 14.5g WI Fully Crusted beautiful Oriented Stone For Sale (Ad)
Ok! Ok! I looked at it... you lucky (but hard working) dog. That's teeth gritting your hearing. Guido -Original Message- >From: e...@meteoritesusa.com >Sent: Apr 28, 2010 8:20 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 14.5g WI Fully Crusted beautiful Oriented >Stone For Sale (Ad) > >LOL > >I find it funny that people are chomping at the bit to add some of the >historic WI meteorite to their meteorite collectons, not to mention >hunters, collectors, and scientists are spending thousands of dollars >just for a chance to find one one of their own WI meteorites in the >wonderful fields of WI, yet people can't bring themselves to join >Facebook to look at a photo of a gorgeous fully fusion crusted flight >oriented WI meteorite? :) > >Seems people would rather complain about FB than look at a beautiful >WI meteorite... LMAO What's the problem with this picture here!? > >Now that, I find funny! LOL > >Regards, >Eric > > > >Quoting Meteorites USA : > >> Hey everyone, >> >> I have a 14.5g (Fully Crusted Oriented Individual Stone) that I am >> taking offers on. >> >> Photo: >> http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/photo.php?pid=30711932&id=1219094173 >> >> Contact privately off list by email for price/offers or call me >> directly at (760) 522-2152 >> >> Thanks, >> Eric >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thats a lot of infomation
Thank you. Wayne Immense help for those planning a hunt. Too bad you don't have winds aloft from about 2000' AGL to highest reporting altitude along the estimated track. That info is archived with aviation weather reporting agencies. I could do it..but I don't want to. It will be in the form of isobar maps and winds aloft reports for the area. Pilots use it for flight planning. Of course it would be useful in determining the lateral angle and displacement of the fall. Better, some one like you, or Shawn do and I'm burned out and you guys know how to post it. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Tim Glidewell >Sent: Apr 28, 2010 1:49 AM >To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: [meteorite-list] Thats a lot of infomation > >Wayne Great job on putting this all in one place, man thats a lot of >work, it was so much I could not imagine compiling it all GREAT JOB. >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing l. >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Hawking on Alien Life - Alan Hills, Yamamoto, Nakhla
Hello List, In line with NASA's 2009 paper (Life on Mars: New Evidence from Martian Meteorites - McKay, Thomas-Keprta, Clemett, Gibson, Spencer, Wentworth). Stepehen Hawkins makes a cryptic comment in this release touting his soon to debut telly program (May 9th - Discovery Channel)surmising that aliens we might encounter will be in microbial form. He also opines we should avoid contact with alien life forms. How prophetic considering the microbacterial and fossil remains found in Alan Hills 84001, Y000953 and most remarkably in "Nakhla". http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/space/article7107207.ece?print=yes&randnum=1272220971558 Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: a final goodbye to everyone
Chicago Steve, I hope you will stay in touch. Joan and I enjoyed meeting you in Tucson and appreciate your friendship. Thank you for all the "freebies" you gave us over the last year. We both hope you will enjoy your "new phase of life." Guido IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: "Floyd \"Griff\" Griffith" >Sent: Apr 25, 2010 11:31 AM >To: meteorite-list >Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: a final goodbye to everyone > > > > > >Hi griff.Please post this to the list pleae.Last time I'll ask.Thanks my >friend. >Steve Arnold > > > >- Forwarded Message >> From: steve arnold >> To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Sent: Wed, April 21, 2010 7:45:24 PM >> Subject: a final goodbye to everyone >> >> Hello list.I knew someday this day would come.I am hanging it up as a >> meteorite >> collecter and a very bad met hunter.After 12 years I am leaving meteorites >> with my head held high.I will be leaving alot of great friends and a hand >> full >> of assholes,but better with alot than the latter.I have sold off my entire >> main >> collection.That is the collection where I had at home.I'll continue to >> have my >> private primary collection put away,so I'll be into meteorites.I have also >> closed my website.I will also be unsubscribing from the met list next >> month.So >> I will pass away into the night without a whimper.I'll miss everyone,but I >> look >> forward to enjoying my life with my wife and now happily again being DEBT >> free >> which is a great feeling.Also I'll miss giving away freebies,but I really >> enjoyed those times.I hope all who benefitted from those were happy as >> well.Well >> there is not much more to say.I wished I could have found some of those >> new >> stones last weekend.The lord >is pointing me into a new phase of my life so I >> look with determination as to what will be like.Good luck to everyone and >> I hope >> you all find the finds of a lifetime.It has been a hell of a ride.Good >> luck and >> god bless to everyone.This time it's for >> good. > >Steve R.Arnold,Chicago,il the >> first >Steve Arnold > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bat Yam investigated by sappers, supported by astrologer
Whats the matter with those guys?...anybody living in the Holy Land should recognize fire and brimstone. The reason that schmegala is talking so loud is he scared. Guido -Original Message- >From: Warren Sansoucie >Sent: Apr 24, 2010 11:27 AM >To: METEORITE LIST >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bat Yam investigated by sappers, supported by >astrologer > > > >Ha! The wet seashells are on fire. I'm rollin'. > >It has a better chance of being something Mike Massimino lost on a STS mission. > >Warren Sansoucie > > >> From: cyna...@charter.net >> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 11:28:21 -0500 >> Subject: [meteorite-list] Bat Yam investigated by sappers, supported by >> astrologer >> >> Too bad this is fake, because "Bat Yam" would make a great name for a >> meteorite. >> And a comic book character. And Bat Yam and the Sappers would make a great >> band >> name... >> >> http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1164994.html >> http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3880008,00.html >> http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3880005,00.html >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale
I already offered Ruben $5. He said thanks. Guido -Original Message- >From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com >Sent: Apr 24, 2010 2:57 PM >To: Ruben Garcia , Mike Miller > >Cc: Meteorite-list , Brian Cox > >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale > >Hi Ruben, > >I'm sure if it was a private sale and the cost price per gram was not revealed >then that would not upset any one...so I shouldn't worry. > >I could solve the whole problem for you and those still out there though. >I'll buy the stone you showed for $5/g and we can make sure it gets really >well known out in Livingstone...then everybody will be happy ;-) > >Great work by the way Ruben/Hopper > >Cheers, > >Graham, UK > > Ruben Garcia wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Mike Miller is absolutely right! Unfortunately (for me) I may have >> started this whole thing (Although I was careful not to mention a >> dollar amount) I was the first to offer a Wisconsin stone for sale. >> >> The problem is obvious - when a local gets word that a stone is worth >> x amount of dollars then that is what they will want half of - if you >> find one on their property. So if the going rate to farmers/land >> owners is $20 per gram then it could go to $50g if they feel that >> Wisconsin space rocks are selling for $100g. >> >> I was being selfish and once I left the field forgot someone else >> could be hurt by my actions. >> >> My sincere apologies to all still in the field! >> >> Ruben Garcia >> >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Mike Miller >> wrote: >> > Hi Brian I don't think I have ever been involved in an argument on >> > this list and I wont start one here either. I am just pointing out the >> > standard edict that we as a group of meteorite hunters have worked out >> > over the past few years. When I say we I mean Steve Arnold of the >> > meteorite men along with myself and most every other hunter and >> > dealer on this list. Steve had something to say about this very same >> > situation when another list member from Chicago mentioned a price >> > while we were still in West Texas hunting. If I remember correctly >> > Steve Arnold of the meteorite men, was very upset when he was the one >> > out in the field and someone else was causing the same problem he is >> > now saying he must do. >> > >> > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Brian Cox >> > wrote: >> >> I just want to mention that it's the business of whomever is selling their >> >> meteorites either from Wisconsin or West or Buzzard Coulee or from >> >> wherever >> >> and I am not judging anyone on that. Sell them on ebay or on a website or >> >> by >> >> silent or private auction. The price is not up to me nor anyone, but by >> >> what >> >> the market will set that price at. >> >> >> >> Either way it's done just please remember that we are a "Small Group" and >> >> should be a tightly knit group, although we do often debate and sometimes >> >> argue about the processes and procedures we go through. >> >> >> >> With this new fall there certainly will be more people coming to >> >> everyone's >> >> websites and on ebay and researching information and coming to the Met >> >> List. >> >> >> >> We all need to be as straightforward and honest and yes, I will certainly >> >> try to be as respectful in my opinions and I request that everyone else be >> >> respectful of one another. >> >> >> >> Enjoy the weekend everyone. >> >> __ >> >> Visit the Archives at >> >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr. Kingman Az 86401 >> > www.meteoritefinder.com >> > 928-753-6825 >> > __ >> > Visit the Archives at >> > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> > Meteorite-list mailing list >> > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Rock On! >> >> Ruben Garcia >> >> Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net >> Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ >> Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing
Re: [meteorite-list] The Wonder Of Meteorites
Jeff, Absolutely perfect. Beautiful. Simple, but heavy Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Jeff Kuyken >Sent: Apr 24, 2010 8:54 AM >To: meteorite list >Subject: [meteorite-list] The Wonder Of Meteorites > >Hi all, > >I had this idea a while ago and I figured with the latest WI fall and some >spare time today, I would finally get it done. > >Hope you like it: > >http://www.meteorites.com.au/films/The_Wonder_Of_Meteorites.html > >Cheers, > >Jeff > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: Re: X37B Orbital Bomber
-Forwarded Message- >From: countde...@earthlink.net >Sent: Apr 24, 2010 12:25 AM >To: cyna...@charter.net >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] X37B Orbital Bomber > > >Hi Darren and List, > >By passive in this application...it is meant that the device does not emit >electronic counter measures. This weapon is powered to hypersonic (ok it's a >stretch to call it "cosmic") speed by a simple rocket motor using an oxidizer >and JP8 and guided into a relatively short and steep trajectory to the target >while protected from heat and pressure using ablative and mass sacrificing >technology. I understand that the mass of the impactor is depleted uranium and >it will definitely penetrate the atmosphere and hit the target substantually >intact at an extremely high Mach number. I hope video and BDA will become >available of this so we could use it in meteoritic cratering comparisons. > >Count Deiro >IMCA 3536 > >-Original Message- >>From: Darren Garrison >>Sent: Apr 23, 2010 11:36 PM >>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] X37B Orbital Bomber >> >>With all due respect to your old pilot friend, that sounds like a steaming >>pile >>of crap. >> >>Meteoids enter the atmosphere at a range of 11 to 72 KM/s (according to this, >>which excepts the Encyclopedia Britannica) >> >>http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/glossary/meteor.html >> >>At the lowest of LEOs, satellites travel at less than 8 KM/s, slower than the >>slowest meteoids (and of course, the higher the orbit, the lower the >>satellite.) >>You could be generous and call that "cosmic velocity", I suppose. But even >>so, >>that passive impactor would act just like a real meteoroid-- it would lose all >>of it's velocity and finish it's fall going at nothing more than the normal >>terminal velocity it would have if you dropped it from a high-flying plane. >>To >>retain "cosmic velocity", it would have to be HUGE. Remember the space >>shuttle >>Columbia burning up on reentry? Remember any of the big fragments of it >>destroying any towns? >> >> >> >>On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:40:27 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: >> >>>List, >>> >>>I post because this unmanned orbital bomber uses passive meteor like weapons >>>to destroy terrestrial targets at cosmic velocities. I was formerly Director >>>of Aviation Facilities for the Hughes Tool Company in the late 60's and an >>>old pilot friend with high field grade USAF and NASA connections sent the >>>communication below. >>> >>>The X37B using an Atlas V booster was sent up yesterday. I was told by >>>another NASA type that five years ago somebody in the Pentagon responsible >>>for USAF weapons development saw an "It Came From Outer Space" movie and got >>>the idea to use man made impactors to destroy targetslike the errant >>>asteroids in the movie. NASA had this hypersonic craft already under >>>development, transferred it to the USAF in 2006, and re-engineered it to >>>carry multiple impactors and guidance. Star Wars has arrived. >>> >>>Count Deiro >>>IMCA 3536 >>> >>> >>> >>>Farouk, >>> >>>I believe you are referring to the X37B reusable space plane that was >>>launched on the 21st four hours after DARPA's Mach 20 Hypersonic Vehicle >>>went up. >>>I'm not briefed in on either so can talk freely. However, it's like relating >>>the contents of a letter I haven't read. >>> >>>We have long needed something like the Global Hawk, but lingering in space >>>and having additional capability; something that can take stuff up, maneuver >>>while up there, place satellites, pick up satellites and move them or even >>>bring them home. GPS and com satellites are a huge requirement as well as >>>all the secret stuff that's required to be up there. Originally, the space >>>shuttle was going to do these things but it never panned out. >>>Reportably the 37B will be capable of station times of 9 months or longer. >>>Don't see why it couldn't eventually stay much longer since they don't need >>>to take a supply of M&M's to reward the navigators. >>>Also, there's the weaponization angle. From space, one only needs to hit a >>>target: no explosive required. >>>A pound or so of depleted uranium dropped from space and goodbye battleship, >>>building or whatever. >>>A hypersonic ball, dropped from space and landing on the centerline of >>>Tehran airport would send a stark message. >>> >>>A Mach 20 Hypersonic Vehicle could strike anywhere in the world without >>>warning. On the test shot they are maneuvering hypersonic and that's just in >>>the "Glide" phase. What is cleverly not said here is how fast was it going >>>under power? They will complete the test by dunking it into the ocean at >>>more than 13,000 miles an hour. A wet sponge at 13,000 miles per would hit >>>like an atomic weapon. 13,000 mph = about Mach 17 >>> >>>Cheers, >>> >>>Shack >>> >>>__ >>>Visit the Archives at >>>http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mai
[meteorite-list] X37B Orbital Bomber
List, I post because this unmanned orbital bomber uses passive meteor like weapons to destroy terrestrial targets at cosmic velocities. I was formerly Director of Aviation Facilities for the Hughes Tool Company in the late 60's and an old pilot friend with high field grade USAF and NASA connections sent the communication below. The X37B using an Atlas V booster was sent up yesterday. I was told by another NASA type that five years ago somebody in the Pentagon responsible for USAF weapons development saw an "It Came From Outer Space" movie and got the idea to use man made impactors to destroy targetslike the errant asteroids in the movie. NASA had this hypersonic craft already under development, transferred it to the USAF in 2006, and re-engineered it to carry multiple impactors and guidance. Star Wars has arrived. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 Farouk, I believe you are referring to the X37B reusable space plane that was launched on the 21st four hours after DARPA's Mach 20 Hypersonic Vehicle went up. I'm not briefed in on either so can talk freely. However, it's like relating the contents of a letter I haven't read. We have long needed something like the Global Hawk, but lingering in space and having additional capability; something that can take stuff up, maneuver while up there, place satellites, pick up satellites and move them or even bring them home. GPS and com satellites are a huge requirement as well as all the secret stuff that's required to be up there. Originally, the space shuttle was going to do these things but it never panned out. Reportably the 37B will be capable of station times of 9 months or longer. Don't see why it couldn't eventually stay much longer since they don't need to take a supply of M&M's to reward the navigators. Also, there's the weaponization angle. From space, one only needs to hit a target: no explosive required. A pound or so of depleted uranium dropped from space and goodbye battleship, building or whatever. A hypersonic ball, dropped from space and landing on the centerline of Tehran airport would send a stark message. A Mach 20 Hypersonic Vehicle could strike anywhere in the world without warning. On the test shot they are maneuvering hypersonic and that's just in the "Glide" phase. What is cleverly not said here is how fast was it going under power? They will complete the test by dunking it into the ocean at more than 13,000 miles an hour. A wet sponge at 13,000 miles per would hit like an atomic weapon. 13,000 mph = about Mach 17 Cheers, Shack __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Remarkable Photos of Natural Shock Waves
Thanks for the post, Jeff. Hi Graham and Listees. Graham has said that "probably not the first...see here.." I have seen this extraordinary photo before and I considered that an overpressure might have caused the effect depicted, as did the scientists reporting that phenomenon as one of the three possibilities, but I dismissed it because the chances of a perfect circle wave of equal overpressure dissipating a cloud formation at the height depicted is unlikely as the shock waves repeatedly generated at the Icelandic event don't appear to disturb any of the condensate, or gasses, present and that observations of the shockwaves generated by the detonation of chemical and nuclear explosives show that rather than dissipate condensation...they create it...big time. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Jeff Kuyken >Sent: Apr 22, 2010 5:49 AM >To: ensorama...@ntlworld.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, >countde...@earthlink.net >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Remarkable Photos of Natural Shock Waves > >This is a NASA Earth Observatory image that was taken from the ISS on June >12 last year. If you want to see something REALLY great then check out the >video: > >http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/view.php?id=38985 > >Cheers, > >Jeff > > >- Original Message - >From: >To: ; >Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:03 AM >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Remarkable Photos of Natural Shock Waves > > >> Hi Count, All, >> >> Wow...Best shock wave pics I've seen...but probably not the first...see >> here... >> >> http://i.livescience.com/images/090622-matua-volcano-02.jpg (condensation >> shock collar plus local cloud driven out by shocked air) >> >> http://news.discovery.com/earth/visible-shock-wave-rocks-japanese-volcano-in-sl >> o-mo.html >> >> Regards >> >> Graham,UK >> >> countde...@earthlink.net wrote: >>> Listees, >>> >>> These photos are the believed to be the first taken of shockwaves cause >>> by the acceleration of terrestial material by natural forces. They speak >>> to an associative comparison with man made explosions and of course those >>> that might be created by an impactor. Fascinating. No? >>> >>> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c99_1271794490 >>> >>> Count Deiro >>> IMCA 3536 >>> __ >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Is this ebay user known to anyone?
He sounds hot for a nice specimen and pissed that this one was a bitshall we say small and unattractive...? If you had a larger and more photogenic piece he would have been hard pressed to turn it down. You didn't miss a sale opportunity here, did you? I know some customers lack social skills and act like jerks, but you've been around enough to have a hard skin and keep your eye on the game winner. A sale. Were just discussing this...I mean no criticism..but, you did call for his banishment and I disagree...stay cool, read between the lines and work these types. Sometimes, with your patience and experience, they get an epiphany and become a reliable source of revenue. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks >Sent: Apr 21, 2010 7:37 PM >To: Greg Catterton >Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is this ebay user known to anyone? > >Hi Greg and List, > >Just don't tell him that I take a hammer and smash some specimens into >micromounts. LOL > >He'd cry if he saw what I did to a slice of Thuathe. LOL > >Best regards, > >MikeG > > >On 4/21/10, Greg Catterton wrote: >> I got a very strange question today, out of the blue that was kinda rude in >> my opinion. >> Anyone know this ebay user? philw3 >> >> Check out the listing and see the question I got from him. Please note there >> was no previous contact. May be a good person to add to the blocked buyers >> list - I did. >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390176039170#description >> >> >> Greg Catterton >> www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com >> IMCA member 4682 >> On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites >> >> >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > >-- > >Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites >http://www.galactic-stone.com >http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Remarkable Photos of Natural Shock Waves
Listees, These photos are the believed to be the first taken of shockwaves cause by the acceleration of terrestial material by natural forces. They speak to an associative comparison with man made explosions and of course those that might be created by an impactor. Fascinating. No? http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c99_1271794490 Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Jim Baxter finds his first meteorites from the April 14, 2010 Wisconsin fireball!
Way to go Jim! I like to see guys with white hair scoring falls. Enjoy it! Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Michael Johnson >Sent: Apr 20, 2010 7:15 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: [meteorite-list] Jim Baxter finds his first meteorites from the April >14, 2010 Wisconsin fireball! > >http://www.rocksfromspace.org/jim_baxter.html > > >--- > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Greg Hupé finds his first meteori te from the April 14, 2010 Wisconsin fireball!
Yeah Greg! That didn't take long. Guido -Original Message- >From: Michael Johnson >Sent: Apr 20, 2010 8:49 AM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: [meteorite-list] Greg Hupé finds his first meteorite from the April >14, 2010 Wisconsin fireball! > >http://www.rocksfromspace.org/greg_hupe.html > > > > >--- > > > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Brix in Training
Hello List, Some may have missed this photo of Brix the Meteorite Dog guarding the 13.7Kg record Nevada Chondrite I found last month while on a hunt with Sonny Clary. I predicted that day that Brix would be finding meteorites all on his own. He really knows that meteorites are something special and whines in anticipation of going into the field. C:\Users\Count Deiro\Pictures\DSCN0079[1].JPG Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE DOG FINDS FIRST METEORITE FROM THE APRIL 14, 2010 WISCONSIN FIREBALL!
Hi List, I've had the fun of hunting with Brix and his "daddy" Sonny Clary and witnessed how devoted they are to each other and how smart and driven this great German Sheppard is. I've watched Sonny train and work in the field with this super dog. I had my doubts about a dog's ability to scent meteorites...(perhaps Brix uses sight also). I forgot that these animals are used all over the world to scent out inanimate and animate items. Truffles, birds, rabbits, stags, wild boars, people, lost personal items, land minesso why not meteorites...especially "fresh" un-contaminated ones. I once saw a Belgian Malanois used by our police department go into a room full of men he had never seen before and immediately go to the one who had the drug test packet (marijuana) sealed in a fresh plastic baggie in his shoe. I was told a dog's nose is 5000 times as sensitive as a human being and can process thirty or more scents at the same moment. Yeah! Brix. Congrats Sonny. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Michael Johnson >Sent: Apr 19, 2010 4:33 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: [meteorite-list] METEORITE DOG FINDS FIRST METEORITE FROM THE APRIL >14, 2010 WISCONSIN FIREBALL! > >http://www.rocksfromspace.org/brix.html > > > >--- > > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE DOG FINDS FIRST METEORITE FROM THE APRIL 10, 2010 WISCONSIN FIREBALL!
Wow! Your persistence in believing Brix could do it and all the patience and hard work with presenting meteorites to him that hadn't been contaminated by handling paid off. I thought you were out your mind to take him with you to Wisconsin. Congratulations to you both. Give him a pat from me. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Michael Johnson >Sent: Apr 19, 2010 4:13 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: [meteorite-list] METEORITE DOG FINDS FIRST METEORITE FROM THE APRIL >10, 2010 WISCONSIN FIREBALL! > >http://www.rocksfromspace.org/brix.html > > > >--- > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Etheral
No, Carl... I'm speaking only of a heavenly body. Guido Carl wrote about " ..meeting sexy women in your area." -Original Message- >From: Carl 's >Sent: Apr 15, 2010 10:14 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Etheral > > >Hi Count, > >Thanks for the link. Are you talking about Uranus or meeting sexy women in >your area? :D > >Carl2 > >The Count wrote: >>We see...and now we hear...to smell and to touch...is near. Ethereal. > >>http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=870_1271363908 > > >_ >Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your >inbox. >http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Etheral
We see...and now we hear...to smell and to touch...is near. Ethereal. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=870_1271363908 Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Impact Crater - Nevada?
Graham and List, Thank you for some encouragement. Yes...it is the even diameter of the raised rim and the fact that there are definitely two concentric rings. I plan to make a day collection trip to the site within ten days. If any geologically experienced parties are interested in joining me, please contact off list. There would be the opportunity to hunt meteorites on good ground on the way there and back. The suspect site is just under three hours from Las Vegas, Nevada. Figure a 12 to 14 hour day. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com >Sent: Apr 15, 2010 6:02 AM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, countde...@earthlink.net >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Impact Crater - Nevada? > >Hi Count, > >Looks to me like you could be on to something there. When you look at it in 3d >elevation and spin around it in google earth it seems to have a raised rim and >possibly even a double ring structure from further out. Perhaps worth >collecting some rocks and have someone look for shocked quartz. > >Good luck, > >Graham, UK > > countde...@earthlink.net wrote: >> Gentlemen and Ladies of the List, > >Especially those of you interested in, or experienced in impact craters. I >came across this feature yesterday while planning a field trip to a nearby >area. I have been on the ground in this location several times, but wasn't >aware of it's circular and elevated confirmation until looking on Google. > > 37°55'19.81"N 115° 9'30.56"W > >Comments? > >Count Deiro >IMCA 3536 >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Impact Crater - Nevada?
Gentlemen and Ladies of the List, Especially those of you interested in, or experienced in impact craters. I came across this feature yesterday while planning a field trip to a nearby area. I have been on the ground in this location several times, but wasn't aware of it's circular and elevated confirmation until looking on Google. 37°55'19.81"N 115° 9'30.56"W Comments? Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] MOON ROCKS ON DISPLAY - COLLEGE OF SOUTHERN NEVADA
Hi Tom the Cube, Nah, it would be disrespectful to show up unannounced. There was a day I would have. But, these gentlemen are at least trying to spark some interest in students to become "ists". I sent an Email asking if they would like to meet me and if so would they like me to bring some larger specimens. I've got a few individual 1/2 kilo Campos and Nantans the kids can play with. And it would be the first showing of that big chondrite since I finished prepping and polishing it. It's mounted on clear lucite feet and stand 10" tall. Neat looking... and I kiss it when I go to bed. Guido IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: starsinthed...@aol.com >Sent: Apr 5, 2010 12:40 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] MOON ROCKS ON DISPLAY - COLLEGE OF SOUTHERN >NEVADA > >Way to go Count! > >Are you going unannounced? I would love to see the looks on the >professors face when they discover they have a meteorite celebrity in their >class >and he brought Nevada's largest stoney meteorite! > >I wish I could be there! (Still stuck in very rural Idaho) Tom > >In a message dated 4/5/2010 9:42:50 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, >countde...@earthlink.net writes: >Hello List, > >NASA provided "moon rocks" will be on display in Room C-123 at the >Henderson Campus of the College of Southern Nevada located at 700 College >Drive in >Las Vegas, Nevada this week. Included with the lucite encased moon rocks >will be a display of "hands on" meteorites for students and the public to >inspect. > >Physics and Astronomy Professor Peter Lanagan and Chemistry Professor >Charles Kotulski, who is NASA certified to handle moon samples, will give >presentations open to students and the public: > >Today, April 5th from 3:20PM till 5:30PM > >Tuesday from 12:20PM till 2PM > >Thursday from 12:30PM till 2:30PM > >Friday from 9:00AM till 11:00AM > >The two professors stated that they hope the opportunity to see and handle > exta-terrestial material will inspire students to take an academic >interest in the physical sciences. > >I plan to attend this afternoon's session and bring some planetaries and >the new Nevada record chondrite find with me. > >As mentioned...the sessions are open to the public. Listees who plan to >attend a session and would like to have a cup, or a glass, with me please >contact off List. > >Count Deiro >IMCA 3536 > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MOON ROCKS ON DISPLAY - COLLEGE OF SOUTHERN NEVADA
Hello List, NASA provided "moon rocks" will be on display in Room C-123 at the Henderson Campus of the College of Southern Nevada located at 700 College Drive in Las Vegas, Nevada this week. Included with the lucite encased moon rocks will be a display of "hands on" meteorites for students and the public to inspect. Physics and Astronomy Professor Peter Lanagan and Chemistry Professor Charles Kotulski, who is NASA certified to handle moon samples, will give presentations open to students and the public: Today, April 5th from 3:20PM till 5:30PM Tuesday from 12:20PM till 2PM Thursday from 12:30PM till 2:30PM Friday from 9:00AM till 11:00AM The two professors stated that they hope the opportunity to see and handle exta-terrestial material will inspire students to take an academic interest in the physical sciences. I plan to attend this afternoon's session and bring some planetaries and the new Nevada record chondrite find with me. As mentioned...the sessions are open to the public. Listees who plan to attend a session and would like to have a cup, or a glass, with me please contact off List. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Российский вин т! *
Happy Easter to those celebrating and greetings to the rest of the List, TMA-11 Soyuz capsule driven by a female crew re-enters at too high an angle and cosmic speed last April... and as a result lands 475 kilometers short and becomes the first man carryung iron meteorite complete with fusion crust. http://209.197.7.108/e3m9u5m8/cds/s/17/media17/2009/Sep/28/LiveLeak-dot-com-de710a3745c5-0.jpg?epochTTL=1271266247&Token=4606fa3f6012ab0b25da4f06aeecb1a3&ri=1200&rs=1000&dopvhost=cdn-hw.liveleak.com&doppl=195f094d52e7c66f52b7c63f8372cf11c6627791&dopsig=f0bbebd56fce5571356938540f05adc5 Count Deiro IMCA 3536 *(liberal translation of caption: "Russian screw up!") __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
